The Breakdown, October 26, 2023 (RWC Final Special)

The Breakdown crew is back for a special Rugby World Cup final edition. Izzy, Laura and Brad put the final under the microscope from the studio, while Goldie and Mils get a feel from the streets of Paris.
CREDIT: ‪@skysportnz‬

[@renierswart5878]

As a South African, it gave me goosebumps watching this. I have so much respect and love for the New Zealanders. My greatest childhood memories are watching the AB's and SA play early on Saturday mornings. Can not believe at the age of 32 this will be the final I get to watch. NZ is my second team

[@feebeedoc78]

Kiwi here. South Africa are the only team I love more than my boys in Black. I hope for a good game 🇳🇿🇿🇦

[@rogerdieder1723]

Great time to be alive hehe epic

[@roseistheclown]

Yes, epic

[@toogyman]

I’ve got a feeling Steph Du Toit is going have a massive game , he is one to watch for me

[@musambuyazi678]

Dude and what a massive game he had

[@elduderino3236]

...this aged better than wine.

[@riyaadrhoda3990]

You were 100% right.

[@DerangedDuif]

Die hard Bok fan here. Love and respect the ABs since I was a kid. Was 7 with the 1995 game, and since then have so many great memories from this rivalry! Last week I thought, no way I will accept a loss to Eng; but with the final; Im sure the better team will win; whether it is us or the ABs, will be happy because I know its the best team in the world and I can respect it. Good luck, and hope to see the Ka Mate to throw down the gauntlet (has a special place for me as a supporter of the Boks to see it, but even know the Kapa O Pango will set the stage!)

[@JamesMullarneyIsAFraud]

best thing is this time you guys arent in control of our food

[@SMC01ful]

ROFL!

[@SMC01ful]

Interesting, if it had been us against France in the QF, I don't think we'd have beaten them. Some teams just have your number, and at the moment the French in particularly at home, certainly have ours. I don't think people realize the rivalry between France and the AB's. Against SAF, they couldn't find that extra-bit of mongrel; moreover, SAF, played a wonderful game of Rugby.

[@tylerbarnes209]

Mate I’m a die hard all blacks fan and was also 7yo during the 1995 World Cup final. I still remember that game clearly

[@horsefootrot5654]

Kiwi here. I'm so impressed with this bokkie and coaching squad. They're definitely up for it! Knowing that the Bokkies weren't allowed to contest 2 world cups when they also had a great team 87, 91. Then they win their first one in 95 against our team with J Lomu. However only one team goes home a winner..... None of them will be northern hemisphere teams☝️😜😁 Legacy and pedigree over good form. This is the clash of the titans.

[@jurgenkriess8408]

Come Saturday after the final, these arrogant AB pundits will have been humbled and show respect to this amazing Springbok team.

[@chadnz1003]

😂😂

[@moes786121]

Yes I was right Bokke won the world cup , mate 8 years as world champion 4 world cups ❤❤❤❤

[@morneviljoen4789]

The Underdog Tag is exactly what the Springboks ask for, thanks for giving it. It's going to be EPIC. Good luck to both teams.

[@JTJ92]

It's not just experience for experience sake either. A lot of these Bok players were the same who lost to Japan, Wales, Scotland, Italy, Ireland, England, NZ, Australia and Argentina over the past 8 years and went through the dark days with the Bokke, to then rise up, beat NZ in NZ, win a world cup and a British & Irish Lions series. These guys have been through the mud together and come out the other side as Champions. Underdogs forever, and never give up! All respect to the ABs and all their fans. One thing we have in common as fans (SA & NZ) is that we've been waiting for this one for almost 30 years. Let's go Bokke!

[@mikecl8803]

Just a Saffa here to say, this game is going to be epic, the wc final ive waited 28 years to watch. I was 14 in 1995, i remember the joel stransky drop kick, i jumped so high raising both arms in the air, problem was i had a broken colar bone from a rugby game. So much pain and joy at the same time. If there is any team i dont mind losing too are the all blacks, im going for the boks to give us another heart failure momemt and to win in the last few minutes. Damn really cant say who will win, common bokke🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦, tou got this. Good luck to both teams. 🏆

[@BruceMacgregorCampbell]

The incredibly skilful and rapid ABs are our most respected opponents. I have been watching them as a kid in the 70s from our farm in the Biggarsberg in Northern KwaZulu. Nothing comes close to an ABs /Springbok match for me. -Sid Going , Bill Bush , Brian Williams, Tane Norton and Grant Batty - I can see them still now as clear as day. Dad would get the Lister diesel generator thumping away early on in the day, our old B&W TV would crackle into life and we would sit riveted and fascinated by this team from the far end of the Earth. NH teams and their rivalry will never match the history, tradition and intensity of our clashes. Lots has been said about their style as the way they are are going to beat us. Lots has been said about our "slow forwards" and how we are going to be stretched. Ok .That will work if the ABs are playing in our half We will need to match the ABs in ferocity at the break down, give them the ball in their half and invite them to play from there. That's our style - Polly and Faf will be pinning them back there and our backs are just as fast and skilful And we have the best two forward packs in the world ready to do some serious damage and strangle that Bobby Dazzle right out of them. Good luck ABs - if you can pull a Mount Smart this time round then the best team in the tournament has won.

[@tonywybrow2767]

From a 70’s NZ kid players like Naas Botha and Morné du Plessis OIS stick in my mind as players equal to our All Black heroes. Boks games always have an edge of fear. Cant wait till the final, good luck to the Boks and go the AB’s.

[@mohaleSlebea776]

Between the two Teams Springbok has had a difficult way to the final. May the best team of the day win. Go Bokke go

[@nlb741]

Good luck from a Bok fan. May the best team win, love the All Blacks when we are not playing!

[@beverleydutoit7576]

🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 A magnificent, humble and inspirational team. Go BOKKE. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@rushdiy1]

I would like an update from Sir JK please , Would love to hear what he has to say about SA Win

[@Darknight80888]

No doubt he will blame the ref, 💯%.

[@rosswilliams2303]

Nice chat from Brad and Izzy. Good to see no arguments or sour stuff from the commentators. Personally, I watch to hear about how the game is travelling, and of course how the All Blacks doing. Let’s go boys. I think we might just have it.💪💪💪🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@realnohat]

These guys are way more confident than I am. It's a pick 'em. Hope they can do it. Go ABs!

[@cedric7936]

Go cheaters

[@cedric7936]

Go cheaters

[@denverkirsten4027]

Cant wait for Blondie to upload the latest show.....I want to see his pain regarding South Africa's win. To all NZ supporters, well done, we didnt agree regarding the red card. It was a privilege to play you, at the end of the day we kept the cup South of the equator.

[@ndumisodatini3373]

Whoever see JK, Jeff Wilson and Mills, please pass my greetings to them and tell them its gonna be another 4 years😂😂😂

[@Venolin1]

Can't wait for the Springboks to come out and break these ab players xD. The guy at the end said they'd beat the boks by 12 points ... we'll see about that xD.

[@bgoldberg6802]

Going back many many years prior to World Cups. NZ and SA have a long history. It's the ultimate game in Rugby. Tons of respect to NZ. SA BOK FAN

[@lonwabiso1]

Well done to all. Thank you ABs for a great game. What a game! Can't wait to hear what JK and JW are going to say. Go BOKKE! So sorry for Cane, tough luck!!!

[@starwarsjk99]

I had a nightmare: Boks were up 150-40 at halftime. Twickenham relived 😮😮😢😢

[@manioketama3644]

😂😂😂

[@vincecrysler3821]

hope you get some sleep before the match of the century!!!

[@TK-fv5jv]

I remember as a child in the 70s when we didn't have television, my brother's and I listening to All Black rugby games on me old man's transistor radio and just constantly hearing the name Sid Going lol

[@hubolds1946]

Loving the confidence of the pundits! Reminds me of 2019 final and last week!

[@Fran-v3z]

AB'S all the way holding the cup up high,from prior whanua living in Brisbane appreciate your courage and humility I claim psalms 91 covers every single player you make us proud aroha

[@stfu8840]

Victor Matfield, A fkn legend

[@actiaint]

Beauden made the play at the crucial time vs Ireland - and it will be him who wins creates that moment again this week. So underrated its rediculous.

[@martinclaassen6768]

I’m DEMANDING an update from the Breakdown. 🍿 🤐😂

[@cliffhest]

Seconded.....

[@RikiLouw69]

7-1 Split in a final in the rain where the back won't see too much ball. Guys seriously. This is massive. This swings it in the favour of the Boks. It will be a lot of kicking. Chance that there will be injuries to Pollard and Faf are low.

[@porkbone42]

Wet weather doesn't affect the ABs, in fact, it makes them a better team.

[@RikiLouw69]

@@porkbone42 In that case I hope they play expansive rugby, and you'll see what the scoreboard looks like after 80 minutes.

[@porkbone42]

In saying that, I do think that Faf and Pollard would make a significant difference in steering their pack around the field.

[@Vlerkies]

Hoping the next Breakdown show will be another complete breakdown, Go Boks. Good luck to both teams. It's gonna be a belter one way or the other. A fitting final!

[@gizmoza]

Love it! it’s such a great thing to see the excitement for this. What a sport! Let’s go out and make it a spectacle!

[@Achrononmaster]

@26:00 the "unearthing of Shannon Frizell" sounds like he is a Golem conjured up by Aotearoa to haunt world rugby rivals of the ABs. That's possibly true.

[@Silvius.2]

Ian Foster of course an chef to trust, love to the game ,same to everyone and really build up proud, confidence to team together with his staff. Build up a team to getting stronger with will, was better loosin some games in front of cup knowing all have to improve. Better then ireland winning all and history at cups hanging arround. Ian's Team its making us happy and showing how kiwis be. Never give up and doing better your way.

[@swapacrate]

Without the guys in the front row we wont be where we are today. For me its all the pack. We were rubbish at the breakdown until Ryan, Sam and Savea have been immense, shannon brings the balance, hes taken a step up been awesome to see. The lineouts been superb, sure backs have amazing individual stuff. But the pack have been immense, all of them. FINALLY we actually look like the packs a weapon.

[@Neil-o8r]

cane is a passenger- although he made a 1m carry against Arg- have seen no aggression from cane- crazy having our weakest player as captain...maybe secret weapon is to bring cane off the bench at 79 min

[@fanaticvandal472]

Huge game, may the best team win, hoping for an exciting, fair contest, Go Springboks!!!!!!!!!

[@MrOliverwoods]

Let’s face it, from an outsider’s opinion. NZ & SA are the best historically as well as today. God Bless. I love when the hardest workers are rewarded.

[@limsrusill]

Israel Dagg called the exact squad, down to the changes at prop and lock reserves 😂

[@My1notyours0409]

Lol. That's because he's texting Sammy Cane during the week.

[@shannonapaapa3374]

Should be a selector not on tv - 💩

[@ChangusMaximus]

He’s been very insightful. Good intelligent analysis.

[@fernanddurler4709]

Agreed Damian is unsung hero- never gets injured

[@planetcurly5343]

Last week I couldn't stomach the thought of losing to England and my nerves were completely shot at the final whistle. This week however, even though I would love the Boks to win, the result doesn't really matter. The only team I can accept losing to is NZ. The world cup got the final I think most neutrals (except maybe the English, French, and Irish) would enjoy watching.

[@stephportablepagan8759]

Whatever happens this weekend you've done us proud! Go AB's . Play it again Sams!

[@CH-ku1qe]

Dagg provides such great comments - love his insight on the game. Go the All Blacks!!!! 👊👊👊

[@robertsmith986]

Great show. Love my Boks, respect your All Blacks. The world just doesn't understand.

[@JouNaai1448]

Growing up in SA my dad always told me that the ABs are the best in the world and we need to beat them if we want to be. ABs vs Boks has always been to see who is 1 and who is 2 in the wolrd. Best of luck Kiwis may the best team win🇿🇦

[@karlernstbuddenbrock371]

Sir JK. Pay homage to the world champions.

[@lord7th207]

Love Tim Horan, hope the Aussies can improve again. UP THE ANZACS

[@Silvius.2]

Jordie Barrett try like another im also impressed! Saving ball and running behind line like pushed pinball its so great. If u getting space opposite bushing you left and right into try its so great. Sometimes if u fighting to mutch against u loosing getting popped further😍. Ping pong into try field, flying into or sneak into its AB try's 🙏 a halve dozens in final.

[@francismyers4556]

Izzy is a proper lad. Much love from SA and best of the best to the ABs.

[@VKM33]

Up the mighty Abs by 10+ 🖤

[@vickvanschalkwyk7042]

Yeah right!! 🤣🤣.. More like -10 💚

[@logan17sentinel44]

​@@vickvanschalkwyk7042 great to see you supporting this channel boy😂

[@logan17sentinel44]

​@@vickvanschalkwyk7042your fear is delicious 😏

[@johnjames6620]

@@logan17sentinel44 His forecast was way off! Stupid to expect such a big win!

[@Ntokozomasogana]

To South Africa its so much more than a game of rugby, every boks player going to a tackle, scrum n every set play they going in for the kill. They know that its life or death if you don't believe me go watch every reaction from this semi final win. Boks are going to kill or die on that field this Saturday the country depends on it.

[@swapacrate]

Do you not think, you will get penalised for killing ABs, that's a bit harsh. Life or death are you really sure, seems as if it was about money before, Boks left for Europe now you select Boks that play in Europe. This is tongue and cheek as that comment is quite funny. Im sure both NZ and SA will continue win or lose. My family and children mean more to me than a rugby game. Winning this game is fun and will be awesome, but win or lose Im proud of this team and what they have done, just like Im proud of my son when he comes third in his race. Winning a rugby game is fun, family is everything, and ABs are part of our NZ family, we are here supporting them.

[@Ntokozomasogana]

@@swapacrate watch does reactions mate, and comments from every South African. Even 2019 the players know it's so much more than a game of rugby

[@logan17sentinel44]

So... no one cares😂

[@logan17sentinel44]

I know you fear this All Black side... be afraid, be very afraid.

[@Ntokozomasogana]

@@logan17sentinel44 respect yes BUT fear NO

[@JayRicoche]

Israel Dagg's try against SA in Johannesburg off Ma'a Nonu was probably 'my' favourite moment against the might of South Africa.

[@sambacca69]

Was that when Ma'a lost his boot and Izzy got in trouble for celebrating early and nearly going out the dead ball line??

[@freelancerconverse4413]

Stop, start, go slow, advantage Boks. Flowing game, advantage ABs.

[@ChoedanKal]

im cocky as, but shitting my pants at the same time😂. Super proud of both teams for setting up this date with destiny 🇳🇿🤟🏾

[@tommcg7564]

Enjoyed your light hearted but relevant commentary and insights of current and recent all blacks

[@robroy8485]

The greatest two rugby nations in the world. Huge respect for both teams. Going to be epic .

[@DannySmt9977]

Gonna be an awesome game!

[@tobolee6385]

Lol jeff wilson not so cocky when hes in front of a bok ..

[@thetalentedmrfitz]

He's carved up many a Springbok on the rugby pitch in his time. He does what he's told on telly though. JK and Marshy are NZ's best and most honest rugby pundits.

[@Lawless2401]

​​@@thetalentedmrfitzhahaha was just gonna say that he was one of the main players that carved SA up when NZ won the series in SA in 1996 so much for SA being the world champions in 1995 😂 the most unworthy world champions in any sport never back it up like all great sides do

[@rosswilliams2303]

Jeff done his time in the jersey. Never was a big guy, fast as and brave. Became a legend. Played opposite one Jonah Lomu. He backs the AB’s when he feels we against the wall, like when we up against Ireland..not many others did to be frank. Thats being staunch not cocky. He can gloat about AB performances but let’s be honest have you heard S.A commentating?. Jeff got most of the early pool games right in each pool. It’s hard when your right a lot I guess. I just want a great game to watch and hope the ABs pull it out. Respect the Bokkes. Such a worthy opponent.

[@justinarmstrong193]

This panel was great. the tension usually in studio is a little distracting, so this was great to watch. Good luck ABs, go Bokke and bring it home.

[@MinenhleCebekhulu1981]

I like the the over confidence of the All Blacks and their fans but us South Africans are very hopeful

[@steadycasemiro]

All I can say as a Springbok fan is that I love the NZ confidence and we love being the underdog. Good luck.

[@HeeniKeke]

Can’t say that either team are underdogs in this match. That’s reason both camps nervous and excited

[@barneyboy2008]

You can't be underdog if you're world number 1.

[@eliteconvintagerugbyreviva2065]

SA are unpredictable. Honestly they've come from nowhere to reach RWC finals twice in a row now. Cannot be too confident and we cannot underestimate them as AB fans.

[@Leon-en9il]

Come from nowhere - do you have memory loss 😂. Didn’t they enter the last one after winning rugby champs and this one as reigning champs? 😂

[@feebeedoc78]

No ABs fan underestimates the Springboks.

[@bernardbernabe6679]

It feels like the ABS are up for the perfect game, so much milestone, the coach, the mana and so much to play for plus 5+millions kiwis just going up for it. I'm going to call it, we are gonna payback the BOKS. 35-12 to the ABS. GO ABS!!!

[@feebeedoc78]

That’s a wild call! It’s anyone’s game. 🇳🇿

[@prudeuncle]

Thanks for the payback. Gues.yoh must have owed us one.

[@ianjacobs2998]

You've got nothing!!!!SPRINGBOKS are confident.Our 2nd World Cup win against nz!!!!🙌

[@krlauf5307]

To all our friends, rugby fans, rivals, and best of Frenemies in New Zealand. Enjoy the game, your team is awesome, well done on proving your distractors wrong...now bring it!!! Let's go into rugby battle and may the best team win, and may rugby also be the winner! Go Springboks!!!

[@JohnMichaels-fs7bi]

I love the Springboks has not chance in this GAME comment. You still have not learn from 1995, we win when it matters, the RWC finals.

[@elray5898]

Nice insight comments from the Panel. Nice work team Breakdown

[@Boytjie84]

Always have respect for the AB's but they've now lost the 2 biggest games in rugby history to the Boks! No moment or game will be bigger than 1995 & this (2023) came in as 2nd as the 2 biggest powerhouses met to determine who was the ultimate king! SA came up trumps yet again & this is something the kiwi's are going to have to live with & will always be brought up. Boks had the toughest road to a final ever as well. Insane. Get in you Bokke!

[@oldblack15]

Re: sleepless nights in France. Is that another reason why abs change hotels every week? Thought it might also be a security thing(Paris on alert?)

[@DeniseMack-y7l]

All Blacks we stand by u Go Warriors fight for ur 🏆🖤💯 we❤u.May the best team win💪

[@christiaancoetzee2741]

Abs by 3 Sa has had Thier final two weeks in a row

[@Silvius.2]

Tell were best its impossible Without suport and great different moves from all From a Aron ,ardie to Z in AB team or Zealand..... Aotearoa to nZealand all .

[@21necronlord]

My favourite was Ardie hes always so passionate and works 100 percent all the time.

[@paulmcmenamin205]

You guys forgot RG Snyman. 😊

[@Lawless2401]

ABs by 15 im actually quietly confident too got the same feeling i had against Ireland interesting stats NZ have better scrum and lineout stats than anyone else at the world cup

[@renewablefuelsanalyst8263]

The ABs only played 2 big teams in the WC in France and Ireland so the stats are skewed as they played poor tier 2 teams. The Boks have played the top 5 teams in the WC (bar the ABs). Its gonna be close but I don't think the ABs forwards are good enough for the backline to play with confidence like they always do but we shall see.

[@robbiehogan7441]

Radio Silence on this channel

[@drooky123]

and the WINNERS are ........ the BOKS 🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@moes786121]

Boks by 28 had a dream and boks won 35 7 😊skills u give it to the All Blacks but rugby is a power game and boks have power 😊

[@cassiusclay8916]

Up the ABs!!

[@Myke...]

Two factors to win Discipline and Speed of game. Hope Ref sort out the players going to ground and water boys coming on every lineout and scrum. Weather gonna help defense, NZ better handling.

[@charliehoani705]

Forget the pass look at the present here nd now. Both teams deserve the finals. Both teams have one or lost this year. Now is the time to showcase their talents on what they have accomplished. Put it all out on the paddock. May the best team on the day win. I'm a true ABs fan. Go the All Blacks. Kia kaha.

[@daggaboom]

Goddamit…listening to these pundits is gutting as they are saying my conclusions on how much we can take from beating the AB last game. Also agree with how to beat us and our weakness with the 7-1. You mofo AB’s make me nervous as F. Just make it a great game fella’s

[@tuttyusbuttyus]

if it's any consolation, I'm nervous every time the ABs play the Boks.

[@timmado8441]

Bro ive been nervous all tournament the springboks are wc champs for a reason and i would never take them for granted

[@daggaboom]

@@timmado8441 hahaha exactly this. I’m in Scotland and the chat was Ireland, France and maybe SA. AB’s no mention especially after the twickenham hiding. And I was telling every effing one these guys. That game is irrelevant and means nothing and you’re out of your minds to not recognise AB’s as absolute threats for the cup. Ireland and France are level with us now but their fans thought they were better than that. Anyway…just two more days of anxiety left

[@kristoffs373]

Boks are the only team that make me nervous. Boks are the true test for the ABs and we am know that in nz. Good luck to both teams

[@TheNealSinclair]

Called by Victor….great insight!

[@nathanjoseph3481]

Just a small question. What is the chance if it is close towards the end and the Boks need a penalty to win. Would Rassie instruct them to deliberately do a knock on, with the Bomb Squad on, to get a scrum so as to get a penalty? Im trying to think like Rassie to see where he could get an advantage in some way! Just trying to play the chess game like Rassie has been the chessmaster throughout the World Cup. Hoping for a good game, so nervous and I'm hoping for the ABs to be able to squeak in. It's going to be such a humdinger of a game.

[@voicesofsanity]

No, you need to hold the ball in the scrum to get a penalty. If your scenario happens, the AB's will just hook the ball quickly and keep possession.

[@sambacca69]

@@voicesofsanity The AB Scrum won't wilt like the English, in fact our scrum and lineout will probably match if not dominate theirs!

[@creator6182]

Ritchie will come back for Razor and Razor will definitely bring him back👍

[@Silvius.2]

Where gives this shirt? AllBlacks - Air New Zealand shirt? Best rugby team and best airline on this earth. AB-AirNZ shirt its getting on point. Like Americas cup, cricket, netball ,rowing, triathlon +++

[@philippusheymans1647]

I love rugby. Getting slushed when the springboks win. I think everyone got the AB’s as favourites but my DNA knows what South African rugby is about.

[@sinaitallen2909]

The two powerhouse rugby nation.. Hope the best team on the day wins...

[@geoffreysmith49]

If we start well and don't drop the ball, we will score tries and then our defence can keep them kicking for goals.

[@123kiwiboy]

jerry collins was a weapon

[@clearpupil]

Good luck everyone

[@JOATMOFA]

*RWC RESULTS* SA RWC appearances = 8 SA RWC trophies = 4 Winning Success Factor = 50%

[@jakesjacobs1737]

Amazing how NZ went from "cant wait" and "greatest rivalry" before to "well there are problems in rugby" afterwards. Well done to the Kiwis who can admit their team was not 100% on the day. Its about rugby

[@dmnt-ce5hu]

All respect to my South African brothers, but its the All Blacks for me

[@kaalvoet]

Goodluck hope best team win

[@emmatsebe1468]

As Springbok fan ,loosing to NZ would be painful but would be nice loose too knowing very we lost to a great rugby nation .In other words I'd rather loose to NZ than to loose to England ,Ireland or France in the finals

[@manioketama3644]

😂😂😂

[@roseistheclown]

😊

[@leannecampbell4551]

Big Vic, visually he’s scariest man on the planet, but a gentle giant at heart.

[@jaymeetan6483]

I just hope either Team Wins, NOT the Referee , NOT the Touch Judges ...I just hope that a Poor Decision doesn't Win or Lose it for either Team, of course I'm picking the AB's but may the better Team Win 🏆

[@nightynight2376]

feel for Weber, been the best on form 9 for the last few years and was overlooked.

[@tonywybrow2767]

The 12 - 13 channel very strong with Reiko and Gordy

[@danie1468]

AB's had a easy RIDE to the final, very easy.

[@jjopl]

My two favourite teams

[@brettlouw8735]

Sorry Guys! The writing is on the wall. 💚💚BOKKE💚💚

[@reubenpillsbury383]

My comment I guess has to do with the content of kiwi rugby shows (I'm a kiwi). There's almost no analysis. No discussion shedding light on tactics. I'm not an expert, and its so refreshing when someone can explain the patterns of phase play or how we might be using pods or decoy runners. Or how our defense underwent a huge shift from man on man to man on ball. And to see replays, pausing the action, to explain these things. And I almost always get these insights when I watch foreign shows. Buy not Kiwi shows. We talk in cliches about ‘manning up’ or ‘the big occassion’ or so and so has been ‘huuuuuge’. But almost nothing as to what the coaches are implementing - complicated patterns designed to beat the opposition. Why is this?? Nz is a rugby nation but our major network shows - especially anything with JK on a panel, are so trivial. You don't gain insights at all.

[@johnjames6620]

To my mind (and I am not having a goat this NZ or any other broadcast) but I think it's pretty stupid to ask people to forecast a score in a match involving close teams. How could one have forecast the NZ / Ireland score or the Boks / French score. And as we have seen the winning margin of 12 (in NZ's favor) forecast by Dagg was so far off. Mehrtens put it far better by saying that it was too close to call.