The Brilliant Arrogance of Nietzsche | Jordan B Peterson

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[@brainwashingdetergent4322]

Nietzsche was one of my father’s favorites. A brilliant man my father was, he passed away yesterday, which happened to be Nietzsche’s birthday. Rest in peace dad.

[@markschmidt5253]

God be with you and your family

[@brainwashingdetergent4322]

@@markschmidt5253 thank you!

[@kevikiru]

I am sorry for your loss. May God be with you and your family.

[@brainwashingdetergent4322]

@@kevikiru thank you.

[@RaphaelKaufmann]

I feel for your loss. Your father certainly was a great man בד"ה May the Judge of Truth be blessed.

[@UnathiGX]

I read "Thus Spoke Zarathustra"......My Take away from it is a sentence - "The Higher we soar, the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly"

[@halleyjimenez7485]

"Truly a dirty stream is a man. One must be a sea, to receive a dirty stream without becoming unclean." (That's my favorite one haha) I barely started the book , I love it so far

[@sebastian_thiel]

I don't get it.

[@manubishe]

Whoa.

[@arturzathas499]

"the blindness of the blind, his searching and groping, shall yet bear witness the power of the sun into which he gazed"

[@SaddenedSoul]

@@sebastian_thiel For the sake of posterity, those who are elevated, whether in intellect, character, ambition, etc. will never "fit in" as well among the masses. Zarathustra is heralding the appearance of the "superman," a kind of future state of humankind that will embrace the good, bad, and ugly of themselves without remorse or regret. Anyone who walks that road will find it lonely, and Nietzsche's thought is definitely lonely, lol.

[@apm9507]

God Bless Dr. Peterson's recovery!

[@macfunkey]

Sadly, he doesn't seem 100% to me.

[@stepanium]

This is a lecture from 2019.

[@S1L3nCe]

@@macfunkey exposed xD

[@biodietkorca]

🔥🔥

[@kassandrasabean6020]

What happened to him? I can't remember.

[@alexandrosgrigoris632]

What makes Nietzche unique for me is that he actually makes you think about yourself. You can examine your inner self through his books and the whole society and how everything works. He does not have all the answers but he can give you the power to start thinking about everything

[@handsomedude7644]

Will to power*

[@kullekusk8136]

Also, he lifts you up. It's like being in conversation with a godlike creature, or at the very least an utmost Noble being. I think he's aristocratic masterliness combined with an enormous openess, intelligence and enormous suffering made him a bridge. A bridge to the Übermensch. A beautiful one at that.

[@k.m.1380]

This man enthusiasm when talking about Nietzsche is mine when I am talking about JP, Nietzsche, Jung, Dostoevsky..... I love you JP for introducing me to such brilliant minds.

[@joshuatatum1116]

My wife is German. Alot of Nietzsche is lost in translation. Therefore I know more than you could ever know. I just wanted you to know that.

[@k.m.1380]

@@joshuatatum1116 good for you man, I wish I know the native language of the book, it would be very different experience I think. And the idea you stated that you know more than I could ever know reveals how much you really know 🙄

[@trishulmody]

Which books of Neitzsche would you recommend

[@postdeliberately5641]

@Trishul Mody: The Gay Science, On the Genealogy of Morals, Will to Power, Twilight of the Idols. If you cannot read German, get any works translated by Del Caro. Walter Kaufman is sometimes problematic.

[@k.m.1380]

@@trishulmody I agree with Mimi Pomm these are wonderful books, I personally think if you want something that contains long paragraphs then go with THUS SPOKE ZARATHUSTRA, or HUMAN ALL TOO HUMAN. if you like the one-line philosophy then go with THE GAY SCIENCE, or BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL If you want something light yet deep read THE DAWN if you want an edgy book that may hurt you (and later heal you) read THE ANTICHRIST of course there are many books Nietzsche wrote that are totally worth reading but I hope this will help you start reading them.

[@williamkoscielniak820]

When I was younger, reading Nietzsche and Dostoevsky was like looking into the mirror of my corrupted, tormented soul. But they were able to articulate idea's that I had merely intuited. I would cry on occasion, because someone was finally speaking to my soul and telling me "you are not necessarily insane, I understand you brother".

[@yusufahmed3678]

Its been the same for me, at least from what ive read of dostoyevsky. Especially the idea of rebelling against god through lust and self sabotage, which he potrayed in the brothers karamazov.

[@thejew1789]

This is a very good articulation. I’ve felt the same way. After I read Being and Time my whole life changed completely. I see things in a completely different manner now. All through Being-in-the-world.

[@robertmorrison1657]

That is true. I am 13, and while it takes 3 days to fully appreciate each paragraph, it is still amazing and surreal reading his stuff.

[@thejew1789]

@@robertmorrison1657 I respect that. Thirteen years old and already jumping into Heidegger. Keep reading!

[@robertmorrison1657]

@@thejew1789I am reading Nietzsche and since I am half Russian, will be reading Dostoevsky in the original, but my Russian needs about half a year of improvement to actually be able to read it. I have heard of Heidegger, but I know very little about him. I have read some of his quotes, but nothing else really.

[@oleoosterom343]

That suit tho.

[@yesterdaysguy]

It's looking pretty loose-fit. I really hope he's taking it slow and not over doing it out of a sense of obligation. People from Northern Alberta tend to work themselves to the bone.

[@oleoosterom343]

I believe this clip is from a while ago. About the suit however: I believe Jordan once told in a podcast that his suits are from the rack, but customized to his measurements. However, it might be the case that this particulier one is bespoke, because of the three buttons on the jacket. Which is unusual, but one of the reason I like it so much. (Together with the yellow contrasting from the tie.) The fit depends on the tailor, or maybe because of the fat loss that is tied to the carnivore diet. Wish he was fit enough to tell us himself. On the plus side of things, he is working on his next book. So that is something to look out for. Greetings from the Netherlands!

[@oleoosterom343]

@@solaveritas2 😂 yes man

[@rugaritolager7411]

canada

[@oleoosterom343]

@Dino Carlucci watched all the biblical videos, read his book and watched dozens of interviews. Trust me, I understand his message.

[@dellafella22]

"Life is about figuring out where you fit in." --Friedrich Niche

[@dellafella22]

Notice the spelling of his name? It’s a pun. Niche. Get it?

[@ilyasabi8920]

Yeah, there is a possibility of that no place you to fit in; ask Nietzsche himself.

[@jeannedarc7533]

Love this pun xD

[@Matheus16905]

"Life is about not figuring out any educational or professional plan", Friedrich NEET

[@59spadesofalife52]

@@ilyasabi8920 Very true

[@ericjoshua_]

He just perfectly explained how it feels to read Nietzsche and the weird pain you get when you understand something. It is triumphant in the sense you understand but simultaneously painful since it is something so deep that something changes within you.

[@abm2399]

“I doubt whether such pains improves us; but I know it deepens us”

[@angrytedtalks]

Lobster for dinner. We are celebrating Jordan's recovery.

[@Leopar525]

That should become a trend! I'm getting some lobster today for our beloved doc

[@JanAndhisfiets]

1:08 - No, Nietzsche wrote: "It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what everyone else says in a book."

[@TheAttila1995]

It takes the edge away, but I'd argue that it still makes the same point.

[@stza16]

No, he wrote: God is dead, and we killed him! 😭

[@Bootrosgali]

Well ? Cmon then ,, which is it ? Is Jordan wrong here about his points or can I just watch happily away full in the knowledge that my superstar intellectual genius has done it again!? Don't leave me hanging now....

[@FiatMihiSecundumVerbum]

@@Bootrosgali “It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what everyone else says in a book - what everyone else does not say in a book.” ― Nietzsche

[@patrikmelkersson7825]

NOSTO actually, it doesn’t mean the same thing. If it is as Jordan said, then it’s just Nietsche bragging, or possibly a statement that he’d achieved an efficiency-goal. But if it is as was stated in this comment, then it was Nietsche laying out a goal of being more efficient with his writing

[@YTFKLTFLYU6FV89]

I need to thank you for more than this forum can appropriately accommodate. Thanks to the endless videos I have seen of you referencing Nietzsche, it provided me with the reinforcement to follow through with my own magmatism toward his works, in their entirity. A few months back I finished Zarathustra... and I waited a week and read it again; some chapters over and over. The book came to me, in my opinion too late in life, and it happened to arrive in a very dark time for me. Not that I'm a foreigner to dark times, in this life, but It lifted me to a place that is seldom visited. The catharsis of his insights provided me that validation on so many topics. Brilliance and genius is, most often, a double edge sword. A paradox. It's often a shame how brilliant men are received. And so I commend you on your many triumphs that I have had the luxury of spectating. Your commitment to the pursuit to truth is so rare and refreshing to me. I'm so happy that you have the intellect and courage to pull it off, and bring yourself and the world in the direction to the superman, in all of its defiance.

[@brokeneyes6615]

I hope Dr. Peterson is doing well and look forward to when he may one day come back and continue his podcasts and lecture series.

[@timmytrash4718]

I’m glad to see you back, sir

[@MotoTrist]

So glad to hear he's back home ❤️

[@elennemusic]

2:53 well said...reading the right books is kind of like a workout...you don't feel good while doing it at all but after a few months you begin to notice a difference

[@Sameer_Hussain_007]

This makes sense. This is probably the only Nietzsche sentence that I truly understand because I can hardly understand the others and this sentence describes why.

[@seewhyaneyesee]

Maybe you are inexperienced (Everybody is, the level fluctuates in a deeper emotional level) Maybe you are biased (We all are in a way) Maybe you are distracted (Check yourself) Maybe you have not decided to step outside (Don’t stay in the same environment for too long) We are not a soul but a journey within a soul, the world is changing rapidly and the importance to knowing thyself is often overlooked... that is what is deeply wrong in the world.. lack of acknowledgement....... You will understand it if you keep thinking/reading or a.k.a exposing yourself to that thought every once in a while.. definitely might not in the “Nietzsche’s Way” but in your own way. It is not what WE SAY that truly matters but what we are TRYING TO SAY.... Words are merely a vehicle, a medium or maybe a vessel? But it never is the actual destination, so, what he said is irrelevant unless you can grasp/experience what he is attempting to convey. That’s my perspective but deep down I feel like I am not WRONG, not ALL CORRECT but not WRONG either, is that my ego or am I missing something?

[@allschooltv5385]

@@seewhyaneyesee this type of conversation style is very rare and frowned upon but is a sign of a sound mind and soul Thank You

[@mynameiskrishey7734]

(1:08) But Nietzsche wrote: "It's my ambition to say in ten sentences what everyone else says in a whole book."

[@rachelpeterson301]

We need Jordan Peterson and great teachers like him in these most troubling of times. Thank you Jordan Peterson and God bless you so you can continue to share the wisdom we so desperately need in these hours to strengthen us and enable individuals to stand up and fight the dark madness that has gripped the so called liberal western world.

[@levihudson1274]

Jordan, I've been reading thus spoke Zarathustra. And it's teaching me suffering is something that's not just good for you but necessary to transform and become your best version. So from now on whenever I am suffering,scared, challenged I know there's something to be gained from it. Maybe that's all I need is the pursuit.

[@user-gr6om4gk1l]

Just bless you all the time

[@JMyrk]

" Peaceful is my soul and luminous like the mountain in the morning, but they take me for a cold heart and a buffoon with cynistic taunts "

[@henrysilvabello2546]

God bless ypu Dr. Peterson. You have helped me to be a better human being. Thank you.

[@artlovkar]

I know the feeling of being forced to think. I have this exasperation and negative emotion in my stomach when I talk to my husband recently :-) On another note, I want to thank you for the JBP Weekly email on 17 Aug where you filled the content of email with "The following is from a previous draft of Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life... " about the hierarchical manner of our value structure. The message was so timely. I was forced to self-reflect on the cause of my negative emotion and need to work on that. The current lock down and social distancing should not be an excuse for my negative emotion. I bought the book "Twelve Rules for Life" but just haven't finished reading it yet. I hope Dr Peterson recover soon. I love his video lectures.

[@DK79462]

Good bless you

[@miguelcarvalho6739]

God bless you and your family !!

[@danielkey929]

I wish I had found Nietzsche sooner; I needed him 25 years ago.

[@vyrusnationgaming1999]

I'm so glad to have this man back in our lives. I guess 2020 isn't all bad after all. We should enjoy the small victories because god only knows that we need them right now.

[@k.m.1380]

1:36 I swear to God that this exactly describes me reading and rereading Beyond Good And Evil

[@mariog7213]

This spoke Zarathustra was a harder read for me. It took me a couple of months to get through it. I felt like I had to look up so many things for every page I read

[@mojo9291]

He's right. Every sentence of Nietzsche is worthy of its own book.

[@freezysyahz]

Y'know, it's your book that I'm currently doing the double dog-eared thing right now 😅😂 both pages had several lines and at least one paragraph that's immensely profound and yet find itself at home and ease in my consciousness and thinking, that I find myself stuck in the dilemma of whether to hang back and ruminate/reflect as I reread the words and passages and outline what they were, or press on. I'm currently just finishing the chapter on Rule 4 😅😂.

[@TwinAquarius484]

Dog earring books is a sin. Thank God for post it arrows.

[@SubToJinx]

Agreed, probably nothing I cherish more than my books. When you look at what some people had to sacrifice to be able to afford books to teach their kids how to read/write.... I could never look at books the same way again.

[@pagexx]

I agree. I was horrified when I heard him say it, I was like, "NOT YOUUU". But, you know, we forgive our heroes some trespasses...

[@MusixPro4u]

The value lies in the wisdom, not the paper. Do as you wish with the paper, as long as the wisdom is preserved.

[@carlsong6438]

Only books other people are going to use

[@lazar2949]

Good that sin and god do not exist

[@davidmcrae4791]

i appreciate that Jordan says reading Nietzsche makes him feel stupid.

[@igornovozhilov8403]

Friedrich Nietzsche is such a genius! Eternal return, resentiment, beyond good and evil,... - wooow, they are so many deep ideas in his books that strengthened me!

[@daz6637]

I love his passion, but I have not the aptitude or patience to read these people, I love his explanation of all these thinkers and loved the way he described the Gulag Archipelago.

[@arturzathas499]

dude. nietszche's books are ful of one liners. they are books that contains books within them. read a sentence a day and youd've read 7 books per week

[@XXXLAVERICKXXX]

Hope your well Mr Peterson.

[@adamarcher3350]

A book that is capable of making you 'think' is always a good book, especially if the author is Friedrich Nietzsche! Thank you Dr Peterson, because of your lectures I am now privy to and learned by Nietzsche.

[@matthewgallant3622]

I read bits and pieces of Beyond Good and Evil when I was in high school, it is nothing but philosophical one liners so id flip through and read some. I never sat down and read the book cover to cover I don’t think, so maybe I will. He was an incredible thinker. You have to stop and reflect on every single line he says. And how it applies to life.

[@travisthechosenone]

Recover fully my brother

[@G-seeker_Official]

He just described how I felt about algebra growing up.

[@chilixification]

So refreshing listening to you again 😌

[@jackc981]

I love to listen to people where I'm the Dummiest so i can learn more . May God teach us to be humble so We can relearn and learn,& think & rethink.

[@kevinbeck8836]

1:36 here's Jordan admitting he doesn't understand Nietzsche. I didn't need him to admit that, it's apparent to anyone who has read and understood Nietzsche, it's just nice to hear

[@TheGabrielPT]

God I have that book and I'm 'scared' to read it, it's getting dust on my shelf haha

[@Shemdoupe]

Lol same! I literally open it and then put it back because I’m just not mentally prepared

[@BrotherTree1]

The thought of it makes me want to throw up... not because I'm cynical about it but I'm fearful about the disgusting atrocities being laid bare to my psyche and what I may turn into afterwards.

[@k.m.1380]

I first stumbled upon this book when I was 20 i read it and understood few(really few)sentences, I first thought that this book is famous for nothing. But day after day.....i reread it like- I don't know how many times- and now I'm 25 and this book is on my shelf as a sacred literature text along with other books (thus spoke zarathustra for example). But my point is PLEASE START READING IT it will improve your way of thinking and the more you read the more you understand but for me it took me years and still i didn't understand every thought in that masterpiece.

[@liberationwasalie2982]

does anyone know where i can read this book for free online?

[@k.m.1380]

@@liberationwasalie2982 go to *Google* , type *pdf drive* , you will get in a website with search box so you can type *beyond good and evil* then you'll find it and download a free pdf.

[@TheRealValus]

The one who overcomes, and overpowers, is less to be admired than the one who tackles contradictions he can't possibly contain - and just holds on. If ever my heart has skipped a beat for Nietzsche, it was not that I beheld him laurel-crowned, enrobed in golden rays, but red-faced, rather, dragging through black clouds and hounded by endless lightning sparks, on the backend of Apollo's chariot. Here is one who stood against the world, against The Lord, like young Diogenes - weathering the blows of old Antisthenes, determined not to be driven away, so long as he suspected there was something here to learn; and sooner to be driven mad.

[@basilmweramakokha9557]

My whole life I've had to deal with being told that I'm "philosophizing" or to "stop philosophizing" like it's an intellectual hobby or something trivial. People basically telling me to stop being "unnecessarily intellectual". Truth be told, there's no such thing. And this clip really helped me synthesize why for the next time I'm having an important discussion with someone and they throw the aforementioned bullshit at me (usually when I call out the incongruency in their logic or reject their false assumptions in an attempt to get to the true bottom of the issue): When you're wrong about something, that part of you has to die so you don't run into a wall. Having developed intellectual capacity, human beings are the only creatures that have the capacity to abstract. In other words, simulate actions before ACTUALLY carrying them out. When we see that a certain action leads to an undesirable outcome, we let that simulation die and try something else. That's what we're constantly doing when we're arguing. Attempting to determine what correct elements should be added or excluded from the next simulation so it may run less painfully or fatally. Even for "small" day-to-day phenomena. If we repeat the same unproductive or pain inducing behaviors over and over through time and space, even the smallest issue can lead to death when multiplied (butterfly effect) or at least FEELING like we'd rather die than keep experiencing this painful reality. Additionally, what's even worse with "small" issues, is that if you keep letting them fly, when the time comes for the straw that breaks the camel's back good luck searching for the needle in the haystack of pain, confusion, ill feeling and resentment that will have already been caused. Just had to write this down for myself, really, more than anyone else. While it's still fresh.

[@manubishe]

Writing for yourself is also good.

[@basilmweramakokha9557]

@Brandon Neifert I never will, I couldn't even if I wanted. I'm quite agreeable in a sense. So I know this is an inextricable part of my being. Because if I could've let it go years ago merely so I can stop experiencing that hollow criticism and cold rejection, I would have. I consider myself extremely lucky to have been born exactly at the advent of the internet and social media. Otherwise, I might've had no real world indication that my particular kind of intelligence and personality isn't nothing but a useless burden.

[@SkiraMe]

You are boring

[@loveme77527]

I enjoyed this!💞

[@IBlCrI]

what are you talking about !

[@svppbai]

interestingly, i had read books of Nietszche, Dostoevsky, Jung, Kafka and Dumas, and then i 'met' Jordan Peterson during this quarantine. He makes me want to review and reread those books!

[@crispyghoul]

I hope the good doctor is recovering well.

[@briannichols118]

Good to see you back.

[@briannichols118]

@@solaveritas2 If so my bad. Seizing on any good news at the moment.

[@briannichols118]

@@solaveritas2 For what it's worth I made the same mistake back in the day, thinking Ayn Rand was still alive.

[@briannichols118]

@@solaveritas2 Thanks for the correction--desperately miss him but don't follow as closely as I should. Figured he looked more tired than usual so must be back :0/

[@ClarkHathaway3238]

"Books are interesting... some aren't." Brilliant!

[@ryanhinderliter6206]

I finished beyond good and evil a couple days ago on apple books. I didn’t dog ear (lol I love that term) but I highlighted a lot because he has a lot of great aphorisms and thoughts. Hearing Peterson say this made me realize he really is arrogant, pretty much throughout the book. He has vicious and often hilarious criticisms on other philosophical schools of thought (nihilism, cynicism, stoicism, idealism, romanticism, atheism) but always with a fair touch of arrogance you don’t really see very often to the same degree. Also I often felt stupid because I didn’t understand what he meant (often because it was too broad which is a common criticism of Nietzsche). What I did understand I literally would just ponder because it was so interesting. It took me about 10 hours to get through the book and I remember feeling it was too long but then I thought for some reason no it wasn’t. Hearing Peterson makes me realize why it wasn’t too long because I really read it.

[@plutonium120]

the problem with reading nietzsche is that nothing you read from then on will ever compare.

[@suumcuique4530]

German philosophers really philosophied with a hammer. Trying to grasp all complexity of the world trough precise words. Not possible, but they did a good job.

[@ridhabelabbaci8776]

Do you have the link for the full lecture please?

[@sudharsanc.v2458]

When I see Jordan Peterson and Nietzsche in a video title I click it without thinking ..

[@TheQuietCottage]

I feel the same about Dr. Peterson's 12 Rules and C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. So dense. Takes a long time to read these books because it takes a while to think about such dense thought processes.

[@matthewkim8547]

by-far the hardest book i've ever read

[@cmvamerica9011]

Everything each of us believe, has a grain of truth, but also has a thousand grains of untruth.

[@overnightpartsfromjapan01]

Weeks later, I'm still coming to terms with Neitzsche's take down of Socrates and Christianity in Twilight of the Idols.

[@davidowen4816]

When Jordan says Nietzsche liked to break things apart with a hammer he is incorrect. Nietzsche said he liked to tap things with hammer as if it were a tuning fork and see if it rang out hollow. The subtitle of "Twilight of the Idols", is called "How to Philosophise with the hammer".

[@armandvillaverde9812]

So much truth 😂

[@arushjoshi726]

Try reading Geeta

[@hermesnoelthefourthway]

Most, if not all, of Nietszche's writings post lou Salome are the convuluted out cries of a man who had been totally Devastated by the loss of lou Salome, whom he adored. He was speaking of the dying of his soul due to the loss of salome. A couple of years prior to this loss he was abandoned by wagner. Lou Salome finished him off. As she was notorious for doing so. Having dealt a mortal blow to Mahler, before moving on to Rilke. She is the femme fatale par excellence. There's always a beautiful woman involved in the creation of great art. The immortal beloved. As Beethoven refered to the eternal Muse. An amor fati, indeed. Noel

[@joeroganpodfantasy42]

Well his explanation of power I agree with completely and it really is said in a sentence and others write books and books and history about it. Take all the history books of all world leaders and humans achievement it's all summed up into that.

[@ballallas123]

Jordan Peterson is the living truth that it's no matter if you say the dumbest thing as long as you say it intellectually people gonna take you seriously.

[@scottmoyer3854]

Nietzsche also said that he philosophized with a hammer "as with a tuning fork". He was a tester, and a smelter. He " tested" ideas with hard blows, and shaped them like a smith.

[@SistoActivitatemAtm]

The first hard book I read was present Age by Kirkegaard (couple months ago). A short book, only 100 pages, but I didn't understand it at all the first read through, I felt so stupid, I wanted to never try again. I reread it and I understood it, at least enough to sorta grasp what he's talking about. I never saw the point of rereading a book, if you didn't get it the first time you'll never understand it. But I learned otherwise. I'm still scared of hard books, but at least I've started, and I'm committed to carry on with them. Afterall, If they're intellectuals, it isn't surprising that you'd need to reread them!

[@jamesdorpinghaus3294]

Rereading a book is like rereading the Bible from front to back- you always learn something you didn't learn the last time.

[@mariog7213]

It’s also hard to just grab a philosophy book and read it without context because they reference many other thinkers and ideas

[@anuragchowdhury9517]

What's wrong with rereading tho? It's wrong to think that you'll not understand something again if you could not understand it when you read it for the first time.

[@SistoActivitatemAtm]

@@anuragchowdhury9517 bro dyou even read the comment lol

[@table1552]

nietzsche would absolutely hate peterson

[@Charmask_creation]

why

[@caleuxx9108]

when you read and/or learn new.... it can be hard.... ;; each person has their own map/blueprint of the world..... yet some things in life/events (can/may/should) cause us to stop and think.... and adjust our map/blueprint of the world....

[@cesarheck1993]

Can anyone provide the full content link 😍 Thank you!!

[@kevinmalone6132]

All.my life I've been.plagued with THINKING its unbearable at times. And now its so hard to simply be on the level with others...i just wonder what Peterson thinks of Nietzsche "recurrence" ....still.loving thought

[@InsanitysApex]

I'm working on a book whos central thesis is "antivalues, antimorality, and the need for self-corruption". I realized today that this book is the manifestation of Nietzsche's prediction for the "transvaluation of all values". I'm not sure if that makes me the ubermensch yet but it's certainly starting to feel that way..... Anyways, this part 2:34 Jordan made me realize that if I write this book and the audience takes the *responsibility of self-corruption* half as seriously as they should that means they will have to burn half their map. Destroying and rebuilding half of your cognitive framework for life is an exceptionally hefty price, but unlocking your infinite potential is well worth that investment. Not to mention all the excitement and rejuvenation from utilizing antivalues. The transvaluation of all values begins with burning half your map and relearning to value all "bad" values equal to the "good"; this is the correct value of all values. All values are equal. Your fear, conscience, conscious, ego, value structure, religion, political party, social sense, common sense, judgement and ego all will resist this truth to some degree. They're all wrong. Your deepest unconscious instinct understands this, and your superego know this. They are correct. Malevolence. Brutality. Cruelty. Power. Manipulation. Exploitation. Sadism. Greed. Lust. Sloth. Envy. Pride. Wrath. Gluttony. to name a few... These are not sins. These are variables; antivalues. Antivalues are not inherently evil. It's the context, intent, and consequences that matter, not the variables themselves. Humanity's potential has so far to go. Unshackling the darker half of values that Christianity locked away for two millennia will be a much needed reprieve. I realize this sounds insane but look at how insane society has become. The will to weakness, to death, to contempt, and to self-righteousness are far greater than ever before. Self-corruption is the antidote to self-righteousness. How could it have been any other way? Moral outrage and weakness will only intensify the longer we repress half of all values; the antivalues. And who better to save society from it's insanity than the madman who's already conquered insanity itself? Nietzsche could write in a sentence what other's wrote in a book. Impressive. Nietzsche succumbed to his madness, never fully recovered, and spent his last 11 years insane. I solved it in 7. Amateur. In his defense I had 100+ years of psychiatry, psychology, neuroscience, and evolutionary research at my disposal. And about half that (50+) years of philosophy because modern philosophy is absolute dogshit, as he'd undeniably agree. "That which does not kill us makes us stronger" That which we let harm us makes us weaker. "He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how" He who has a why he cannot live without will commit almost any how in it's pursuit. A necessary sin done gently is god at work. A gratuitous sin done cruelly is satan at play. See you in a while brother...

[@Jimmy-iy9pl]

Nihilism is evil. Nietzsche was brilliant, but he also wrote a lot of evil stuff. The light of reason, which I think eventually leads you to God, is what will guide us out of our meaning crisis.

[@InsanitysApex]

@@Jimmy-iy9pl You think the light of reason leads you to God because you are weak and naive. You fear being evil so you label it as bad and then paint it with a coat of self-righteousness. Our meaning crisis is a period of social evolution that heavily incentivizes individuals to seek their own meaning (individualization, personality, insanity etc). Sticking with the group and following traditional values/mindsets is detrimental to the degree that the individual lacks the capactity or willpower to intelligently resist the system they follow. i.e. If you're a cognitive slave to the system/tribe/social (religous bs in your case) beliefs of your group are you truly yourself or free? No, you're a coward too afraid of your true self/potential so you hide in the "safety" of the herd. Also, conceptual evil is the solution, not the answer. This truth terrifies your conscious mind (but your unconscious wishes you'd man up) that ensures you will never be great or achieve even a fraction of your potential, rather you'll live a life of "quiet desperation" at best adhering to beliefs that aren't yours, following rules you hate, and never standing up to the people you resent the most. Evil looks bad to the coward, is a master to the weak, and the force for good to the righteous. You are not righteous. You are unable to use evil to accomplish good. You are a self-righteous scared boy labeling evil as "always bad" so you can excuse yourself from ever using it. Reread Nietzsche as if you had testicles that mattered. Or continue being a boy, Jimmy.

[@R.Devontae]

I’ve read “Thus Spoke Zarathustra” (Nietzsche), and the trauma that that book gave me, shall never be perished from my life.

[@mouwersor]

That's the book you shouldn't start with.

[@Vijay-zt6ws]

@@mouwersor oh shi.. i just took that one from our college library 🗿. Is it really that bad?

[@Pessimists]

@@Vijay-zt6ws It's not bad at all, it's a genius book that I would recommend to anybody open minded enough!

[@perceivedvillian3584]

Ironically many traditionalists consider psychology a field that never really challenges people to “think” because it’s so subjective, and just based on opinion or social science/pseudoscience

[@pissedpajamas5718]

Like it’s too open to be “open”

[@seankauder9721]

The first book of Nietzsche's I read (The Gay Science) left me with a full legal pad of notes.

[@zach2630]

He is back, he will be okay thank GOD

[@pointblank3409]

Nietzsche didn't say "I can", he said, "the point is to ...."

[@gooe9561]

Nietzsche did what all great philosophers do, he exposed his own bias and flawed view of reality. What he did right was expose the bias and flawed view of reality of so many great philosophers, himself included. Some broken clocks are right more than twice a day.

[@MrSasuke2222]

Currently reading it. Amazing book. Got a long list ahead of me.

[@santoshmagar3919]

I tried to read beyond good and evil book. It go all through my head. And I thought I am not worthy of understanding this book right now.

[@scientistMUC79]

From which lecture is that clip?

[@jonathanfornwalt4919]

The first Nietzsche I read was "The Antichrist", it was short, but said more than almost anything else I'd ever read.

[@username2872]

"Sir!! But I can write it in a sentence" "No!! 5 paragraph minimum!! Revise your work!"

[@yousseF1135]

Can anybody put the link of this lecture?

[@Contra7311]

It's in the description

[@yousseF1135]

Yeah but that's the audio podcast. Isn't there a video ?

[@finneganmcbride6224]

The video is on ts.today

[@GM-hu2xj]

"You can lead a man to slaughter but you can't make him think'.

[@mattijsglas]

"The aphorism, the apothegm, in which I am the first among the Germans to be a master, are the forms of "eternity"; it is my ambition to say in ten sentences what everyone else says in a book - what everyone else does not say in a book." Twilight of the Idols | Skirmishes of an untimely man #51

[@zerozilch]

Orson the beetleslayer is a good short story

[@Fuliginosus]

I can express in one KZbin comment more than other people can express in a lifetime. (This isn't one of those comments; I'm just saying...)

[@abaranihei2608]

Nietzsche not only was an incredible Thinker and Author he also was a Godlevel Troll 😎 Genius

[@plastic2666]

Nietzsche's 10 rules for writing: source www.openculture.com/2016/12/nietzsches-10-rules-for-writing-with-style-1882.html 1. Of prime necessity is life: a style should live. 2. Style should be suited to the specific person with whom you wish to communicate. (The law of mutual relation.) 3. First, one must determine precisely “what-and-what do I wish to say and present,” before you may write. Writing must be mimicry. 4. Since the writer lacks many of the speaker’s means, he must in general have for his model a very expressive kind of presentation of necessity, the written copy will appear much paler. 5. The richness of life reveals itself through a richness of gestures. One must learn to feel everything - the length and retarding of sentences, interpunctuations, the choice of words, the pausing, the sequence of arguments - like gestures. 6. Be careful with periods! Only those people who also have long duration of breath while speaking are entitled to periods. With most people, the period is a matter of affectation. 7. Style ought to prove that one believes in an idea; not only that one thinks it but also feels it. 8. The more abstract a truth which one wishes to teach, the more one must first entice the senses. 9. Strategy on the part of the good writer of prose consists of choosing his means for stepping close to poetry but never stepping into it. 10. It is not good manners or clever to deprive one’s reader of the most obvious objections. It is very good manners and very clever to leave it to one’s reader alone to pronounce the ultimate quintessence of our wisdom.

[@aydnofastro-action1788]

Spot on.

[@Tanacity]

U back bro?!? 😊

[@Infamous41]

Beyond good and evil and Zarathustra were good books but not ground breaking i did enjoy them

[@tzazarizona2676]

I would not mind reading one of your books to compare, what are they.

[@domc2909]

Not ground breaking when?

[@HustleBustle01]

Think!!!!!!Think!!!!!!!!!!!!Think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@markir9]

Yes - 'beyond Good and Evil' is a really hard read. I recall it starts out with a sentence that takes up most of a page! I must read it again, as (it was years ago), I got to the end and was not sure what he was trying to say - between crazy long sentences and random changes from prose to poetry, it was very had to follow *any* line of thought. I contrast this with some other great thinkers I've read (Plato , Rousseau and Descartes), who are easy to read.

[@postdeliberately5641]

The Preface of BGE, in English, begins with a nine word (rhetorical) question - depending on the translated version one uses. It is seven words in the original German. The opening sentence to Part I is: “The will to truth that still seduces us into taking so many risks, this famous truthfulness that all philosophers so far have talked about with veneration: what questions this will to truth has already laid before us!” This does not take up the whole page, and it is confusing to me that someone who is familiar with writings of Plato, Descartes, and Rousseau, could find this sentence to be difficult. Plato’s The Republic, though structured as a dialogue, contains allegories, myths, lectures, and explanation and structure of the the theory of forms. Maybe give Nietzsche another try because you are capable of following changes in forms of writing within one piece given your admiration for and familiarity with Plato.

[@markir9]

@@postdeliberately5641 Thanks for making me check :-). I was referring to the first page of the Preface. Specifically sentence starting: 'To speak seriously...' which continues for 13 lines (approx 135 words)! That is pretty long. My copy is the Penguin edition, translated by R J Hellingdale.

[@postdeliberately5641]

@@markir9 That is a long one! I wasn’t trying to be combative, just so you know. I was attempting to get clarification - especially given your heightened exposure to philosophic works in combination with your praise of the philosophers you listed. But to each their own. I like Heidegger, Nietzsche, Levinas, and Sartre - for example...I find them more interesting than Plato and Rousseau and more immediately accessible than Descartes. That is the beauty of philosophy! Something for everyone!

[@markir9]

@@postdeliberately5641 No worries. And you made me examine why the book was difficult to read. I'm (now) aware that there are a number of different translations...and not all of them have the (in my opinion) clumsy structure of the one I have. Probably worth me getting one of the others to read it again!

[@postdeliberately5641]

@@markir9: Any Nietzsche work that has Adrian Del Caro as the texts translator, I highly recommend and endorse. Kaufmann has been in the process of being replaced as the quintessential Nietzsche translator for some time now.

[@Samborro]

"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood." Nietzsche is throwing up in his grave right now.

[@swagkachu3784]

He was german tho

[@ronalddavidleindecker3358]

"...I think..therefore, I am..."

[@andrewwabik5125]

I read it in high school.... yeah.. I didn't have any friends :(

[@fatpotatoe6039]

same

[@mariog7213]

It probably wasn’t because of which book but just that it was a book 🤣

[@andrewwabik5125]

@@mariog7213 right?

[@zennologyofeverything7265]

Welcome back doc.

[@FG-fc1yz]

Vor allem und zuerst die Werke! Das heißt Übung, Übung, Übung! Der dazugehörige »Glaube« wird sich schon einstellen, - dessen seid versichert!

[@izawaniek2568]

Thinking is hard and tiring. One sentence for a whole book contents. Great :-) Thank you.