The Brilliant Russian V-22 Helicopter - Mil 30

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In the year 1972. Soviet design bureau Mil embarked on an ambitious journey.
The goal - tiltrotor aircraft to replace the Mi-8 in the future.
Experienced with their own work on Mi V-12 and inspired by Kamov designs, the idea was pretty straightforward, but as we know today with aviation projects - idea is often not enough.
Let’s go see why the Soviet Osprey never took to the skies.
Ever since WW2, this one concept has been very intriguing for the engineers on the both sides of the Iron curtain.
That is - building a very fast helicopter, or a VTOL transport airplane.
And you know it that the Nazis actually tried this first, but it’s a topic for another day.
Anyway, the British built their famous Fairey Rotodyne and the Soviet Kamov bureau built Ka-22, but the Americans had a different concept.
Unlike the - 2 pair of engines for vertical and horizontal movement - concept that the British and the Soviets explored, Bell created a tiltrotor aircraft called the XV-3 in 1955.
Jump forward a bit and we’re in the 70s and this is where Mil’s story starts.
After their attempts with the gyrodyne and hybrid helicopter concepts like the Mi V-12, the Soviet spies went over to Bell for let’s say “inspiration” for this new project.
This time their transport helicopter project would base its design on the tilt rotor engines.
How does this work?
Well to put it simply, during the take off, engines would be tilted upwards and the aircraft would be controlled similar to a tandem rotor helicopter, after gaining altitude, engines would rotate into a horizontal position and the aircraft would be able to have transport airplane performance in terms of speed.
For example, Mi-8 would fly at around 220km/h with maximum speed at 250km/h and Mi-30s projected top speed was somewhere between 500 and 600km/h.
To put this even more into perspective, V-22 Osprey’s top speed stands at 509 km/h, and Ka-22, the previous Soviet gyrodyne project, achieved the class record speed of 356km/h so now you can understand why this tiltrotor concept was so interesting.
With the main idea behind the concept ready, Mil bureau got the TsAGI, the Central aero-hydro dynamic institute behind them and started working on the project.
As we previously mentioned, the goal of this project was to replace the Mi-8.
But the greed and unrealistic requirements would prove to be a roadblock on this project very soon.

[@FoundAndExplained]

This video features the impressive model by our team member Andrei Stanavov. Its just plain awesome, and you can see his work here: www.artstation.com/stanavov

[@WolfeSaber9933]

If there is one aircraft that needs a deep dive, it is the Lockheed L-133 Starjet.

[@Jonathan.D]

@@WolfeSaber9933 It's amazing that you mention the L-133. I just left a comment asking for him to do a video on canard aircraft from the same era. The British had several different plans from the same time period that the Lockheed L-133 was designed. The L-133 stands out from all the other aircraft designs from that time. It's hard to believe that it designed in 1939. I was thinking of asking him to do a video on the L-133 but I really want to see a video about the British canard aircraft. One of them, the Avro 730 looks so cool.✌️

[@CAP198462]

Hey Found and Explained, Have you watched Simon Whistler’s “Side Projects,” video about secret Soviet weapons. Some of the animations might look familiar.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

Ummm I've never heard any aviation video say "Me" instead of "Em Eye". Since you've got expert level knowledge of aviation, can I assume this is actually the correct Russian style pronunciation ? Why say V- two two tho' ?

[@CAP198462]

@@edwardfletcher7790 to answer that, the use of Me instead of Em eye is more correct to how a Russian would say it.

[@L33tSkE3t]

The V22 has had its own issues, the Bell V-280 Valor looks interesting and actually works more similarly to this rather than the v22 which rotates it’s entire engine nacelles

[@Yuki_Ika7]

I am still hoping the Defiant X wins the contract but I think both the Valor and the Defiant X have their uses

[@L33tSkE3t]

@@Yuki_Ika7 to be honest, me too and I think it will

[@ravenkk4816]

@@L33tSkE3t interesting to note that the mil 30 use valor swing type.

[@jeffreymckinney1013]

No the valor will win. The defiant has basically the same helicopter in the other competition. It can win that one.

[@L33tSkE3t]

@@jeffreymckinney1013 and it looks like it has won with it being announced yesterday. Honestly, they were both great candidates and I think the V-280 will perform well. With it's higher capable top speed, could extend it's performance and operations envelope

[@SmoochyRoo]

Oh my god the rotors actually spin in the right direction in the animation fantastic attention to detail, people always miss that for tilt rotors and especially the XF5U flying flapjack

[@fowlerfreak7420]

you're a furry.

[@cosmoray9750]

Look up " vlogger DESTROYS Western "news" on China protests " on yT. Real footage......

[@sojourner.]

>PFP >Banner >The video topic Checks out.

[@SmoochyRoo]

@@sojourner. I should change that banner shouldn't i

[@zane9758]

When is Russia going to actually build this weapon

[@alexpeto3385]

Osprey with vodka

[@blakebenoit2988]

Yes

[@Apnap_T1]

This are the best coment

[@Glynstantinople]

Vodka if it was a tiltrotor aircraft.

[@berandom2000]

Vodka-22

[@mattblackbeard]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mr._nighthawk7215]

Wow your 3D builds have improved so much !

[@FoundAndExplained]

The modeler of this particular Helicopter is very talented. we linked his portfolio in the description.

[@boriskozak8516]

Я никогда не слышал о таком проекте летательного аппарата. Нигде не доводилось читать даже. Узнал впервые от Вас! От вашего ''Found And Explained'' научно - познавательного канала!

[@woofkaf7724]

Потому что концепт мертворожденный. Две огромные слабые точки защитить сложнее. Тем более что и места для их защиты мало. На таком разве что в мирное время летать.

[@Avia_Drone_Fly]

Не совсем так, что мертворождённый. Просто сильно всё затянулось из-за постоянных новых требований, хотели увеличения грузоподъемности всё больше и больше ... конструкция постоянно менялась ... дотянули до 90-ых ... а там понятно, что без вариантов.

[@masterSageHarpuia]

Something important with modern aircrafts like vtol capable f-35s is integration of computer systems. Could you do a video on the history of that development. When did computers start going into planes or aircraft? Auto pilot systems? Etc….

[@foximacentauri7891]

Great Idea!

[@williamzk9083]

I know that one of the first was the 1950s German VTOL fighter program the VJ101 and VAK191 used gyroscopic fly by wire to handle the hover and transition to and from horizontal flight. -In general jet aircraft had a number of problems. They have a tendency to snake so devices called yaw dampers have to be used to control the rudder. Near the speed of sound wing center of life changes and the aircraft nose pitches down. This "Mach Tuck" is automatically compensated by trimming the tail plane. Changes in thrust tend to lead to aircraft pitch changes so that is compensated. Eventually it became easier to do all by it by fly by wire. -The SR-71 was 'augmented' where the pilots controls the surfaces manually but a computer system increases or decreases the deflection to account for the aircraft's vastly different handling in landing, subsonic, trans-sonic, supersonic, hyper-sonic flight. -Instead of giving a pilot artificial feel so he doesn't over stress the aircraft it became possible to just reduce the deflect the controls less and use g sensors and rate gyros on top. -It was a slow process step by step. The French Mirage 2000 and F-16 were some of the first but I believe the Avro Canada Arrow was fully fly by wire.

[@alexlo7708]

@@williamzk9083 Canada Arrow was British TSR.

[@felixcat9318]

I've never heard of this before, thank you for covering it and for such a well detailed description.

[@PilotPhotog]

Another great video, wonderful storytelling and incredible animations!

[@Shinzon23]

Pretty sure given the increasing popularity of Tilt Rotor craft, we'll see a design like this being used by militaries, probably not too many years in the future as well.

[@mattandrews8528]

All a pathetic distraction from the anti gravity craft that are far better and have existed for decades. Decades.

[@bobman36]

Investigating Russian and Soviet helicopters is always interesting, they are all such unique designs and are often hard to find.

[@watchthe1369]

USMC - what our MV-22's are chopped liver?

[@fork9001]

We already have some for electric air taxis.

[@williamzk9083]

The idea of the tilt rotor is good but the devil is in the detail of implementing it safely. There are a lot of moving parts that have t work perfectly. The Soviets didn't really have the technology in the day. Fly By Wire, MEMS gyros, shaping changing alloys to control rotor pitch.

[@Chris-ok4zo]

I've always dreamed of a war that includes EVERY SINGLE one of these odd machines that never saw the full extent of glory on the battlefield. This channel has allowed me to make up a list of most these machines for that far future project.

[@ravenouself4181]

Girls & Frankenmachines Maybe make a videogame? [You know, sel the idea to a video game developer]

[@ImpossiblyBlack]

The V-22 is only really a success in the sense that it is the first to successfully incorporate the tilt-rotor concept into a viable production aircraft.

[@hektorgerth4761]

Isn't that enough.?failure leads to success

[@tedntricia]

If you check the US Marine and USAF mishap statistics you will find that is not correct. The V-22 had a troubled development (as all modern military aircraft do) but today the CV-22, MV-22 and CMV-22 are among the safest and most capable rotorwing aircraft the US military flies.

[@skorea2131]

I fly on the 22’s. They’re a great aircraft. They have some issues, but they’re a very safe aircraft. Unfortunately, most of the mishaps we’ve had recently have been due to pilot error, not mechanical. #flymarines

[@vitordelima]

Maybe some better automations or warning systems could help, I saw a similar idea being developed for gyrocopters.

[@kaptainkaos1202]

@@vitordelima have you ever been on a V-22? What would you describe as better?

[@kaptainkaos1202]

You are the person I have in mind every time I go to the aircraft. I’m a NAVAIR flight test engineer and my last program was the MV-22 along with the Navy variant. Every time I sign a flight clearance I take a short break. I just breath and try to think about anything I might have missed. You and the rest of the crew are who weigh heavy on my mind. My worst nightmare is I miss something that causes the loss of an aircraft and crew. I’m not a religious person but I say a prayer that my decision is right and then sign the clearance. I also used to take care of the USAF versions but they weren’t a large part of my job.

[@joeblough4605]

Clearly, you're no pilot!!!

[@vitordelima]

@@kaptainkaos1202 Computer assistance for flights, the one I saw for small gyroplanes gave all sorts of warnings every time something wrong was about to happen for example.

[@amadine770]

Great content as always-the USSR had ideas that ended up being research dreams-for instance the Buran,Ekranoplan,the Krylya Tanka,Bartini Beriev,the Zveno the list is endless.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

It seems like part of that may be just their different approach to development, testing via production of many prototypes rather than rigorous testing of small models, and modelling etc.

[@amadine770]

@@DoubleMonoLR Couldn't agree more-that and political short spanned interest if not meddling and pittance budgeting cost the projects.

[@xtensionxward3659]

i don't see the equivalent of those ideas you mentioned in the US .. besides its just an indication of how progressive the Russian scientific research is the current technology they have is on par with america i'm talking jet fighters and actually Russia is way ahead with hypersonic rockets which the US is still struggling to invent

[@Ilya_Muromets_1150]

@@xtensionxward3659 вы пересказываете мифы и сказки российской пропаганды. Все, что сейчас имеет россия - наследство и остатки от СССР, и ничего нового! Только перекрашенные новой японской краской, старые разработки и дипломные проекты студентов 80-х годов.

[@zane9758]

​@@DoubleMonoLRstop lying

[@wormyboot]

The hardest hitting thing in this video is the ad transition. I really enjoy your writing.

[@LotharTheFellhanded]

Those door gunners seem like they have a great chance of shooting the props.

[@captain_commenter8796]

*Soviet engineering at it’s finest*

[@josuefHuerta]

It's amazing seeing how your channel keeps improving. Keep up the great work!!

[@ToBeIsWasWere]

why is he still stanning russian crap though?

[@vb2534]

The soviets didnt have a website, man thats good add intro ngl

[@JesseKnight2000]

Great👍 Badass looking attack Helicopter 😎

[@DriveByShouting]

The words 'Brilliant' and 'Russian' should never be used in the same sentence.

[@panda7seven548]

Best thing to see right after work

[@TreeFilms1]

Me waiting patiently for the mustard vid.

[@BjornCanute]

I would be a very nervous gunner looking straight out at those blades.

[@signorpippistrello]

Synchronized rocket pods. They are also used on the Farley Offspray.

[@AeriaGloria]

There is no such things as a Farley Offspray

[@signorpippistrello]

@@AeriaGloria You GOT to be kiddin me….

[@arnoldsherrill2585]

And how in the world were they supposed to synchronize weapons release considering you were literally firing through the arc of the propellers providing lift/ forward motion. With the osprey, weapons are deployed in such a way you don't have that problem

[@nicolek4076]

Farley was a British company that made baby food. Fairey was a British company that made the Rotodyne.

[@johnjensen2217]

The videos are otherwise so good it’s a little cringy to see such simple mistakes make through the editing process.

[@Per-MichaelJarnberg]

Both the mil 30 and v22 osprey would have gone head to head in the heat of battle

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

TsAGI is not pronounced as T-S-A-G-I, but as "tsaghee". As for the aircraft, looking at the door gunner's station, I could imagine the pain of trying to hit anything without shooting the propellor. Same with the rocket pods closer to the engines, though one would expect them to be deactivated automatically when in horizontal flight mode.

[@alt5494]

The low speed center gravity looks nearly impossible to stabilize at low speeds or while hovering. When the canards are not generating lift, & that hoping where designed to generate lift at a high efficiency.

[@scourge4198]

Man, I need me a model of this thing, that is awesome

[@Backhand77]

In some ways it’s shocking how advance the Soviet armament was They would build things that the West had no answer too

[@PaulMcElligott]

Is “Mi” really pronounced it “me?” And I’m pretty sure people say “Vee-Twenty-Two,” not “Vee-Two-Two.”

[@Jonathan.D]

Great video as always. I was wondering if you have plans to do a video on the British canard aircraft designs from the WWII period? They had several plans from fighters to b0mbers. For example the Miles M35 and M39. There were some wild drawings for super-heavy b0mbers too. During the beginning of the cold war they tried again with plans for a mach 3 canard reconnaissance/b0mber called the Avro 730. I think you're the best to show us how they would look and their pros & cons. Keep up the awesome work.

[@mattandrews8528]

And then anti gravity craft were figured out in the 50’/60’s and onward secretly. Screw these antiquated propeller propelled aircraft, I’ve been right near silently hovering triangle anti gravity craft in the Navy.

[@thomasbalivet1057]

Very interesting as usual, thank you for your nice videos!

[@_Makanko_]

Great model design!

[@Gizmos_and_stuff]

Very cool helicopter thingy!

[@happyundertaker6255]

For Arrakis?

[@wolfrikvonschwarzblut3921]

From a purely aesthetic perspective, I like this one more than the V-22.

[@merlesmith6794]

Rocket pods and canards make everything better

[@bigbcor]

Tail sections looks like Garbage on this…

[@Saintrebelusmc]

I like that segue into the sponsor lol

[@AtomixIGN]

This would be an interesting comedy for HBO. The Pentagon Wars meets Citizen X. The antagonists in the political and military bureaucracy could be played by Stephen Rae and Carrey Elwes respectively.

[@jackryan4313]

8:28 I thought you were about to tell me that "by the 1990s, the Soviet government decided that time travel was also required before granting additional funding"😂

[@merlesmith6794]

Scary good looking artist’ rendering.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

fairey is pronounced fair-rey btw :P impressive videos as ever. cant help but think that the rockets with the props forward for level flight would hit the blades 1st before the ground targets.

[@theneef174]

Russia would have to have the money to build it first if they wanted to find that out.

[@ToBeIsWasWere]

they probably shot those with the props rotated up, that way you have more control anyways for targeting given that those are all unguided.

[@M167A1]

Why it never took to this skies? Because they weren't able to throw an unimaginable fortune in development costs at it.

[@Scarletdex8299]

Might as well let people know about Vertoplan (1939) - a thing that came way before Bell Boeing Osprey similarly how TB-3 came way before Flying Fortress

[@michaelwong4303]

The American V22 carries 9 tons. This Mil machine only manages 2 tons.

[@tetraxis3011]

The original concept yes. But it was increased to almost the same as the Osprey. And it doesn’t matter anyways things this thing wasn’t built.

[@grahamnash9794]

I remember seeing the Bell XV-15 flying around Farnborough in the late 70s. Look that up and see where the Americans got the notion from. And it wasn't Mil.

[@Onebeforeall]

Intresting vidoe, what's the name of the large U.S. transport aircraft shown sitting on the tarmac at the beginning of the video?

[@Stick.01]

The model used in the video looks like a vehicle in the lobby of squad or battlefield 2042

[@greywolfgaming5300]

Not sure if anyone noticed this. but there is a small error with the name of the 2 craft here 4:58 you called the Mil MI-30 the MI-8.

[@nicholasmazzarella2720]

Awesome video. Thanks for all the great info.

[@WataGuy]

Greetings! Who made your 3D model and animated it? It's fantastic.

[@FoundAndExplained]

The link to the portfolio of the Modeler of this particular one is in the bio.

[@edutaimentcartoys]

amazing helicopter 😍

[@Oenomaus556]

Imagine a this with 2 Vulcan guns instead of rockets

[@Onezmhu]

Insane animation and design

[@hypergolic8468]

It would need some very impressive jet engines to accept turbulent post prop air and then combust it in a stable way.

[@aidennewman3436]

yes I am in need of a new airframe for my new hypersonic aircraft so I will be getting squarespace for the airframe.

[@Shattered3582]

hey found and explained, i have been watching your videos for over two years. your animations also inspire me to continue learning blender. i would love if you showed us your work flow. also your animations have come along way, i would love to know how you learned

[@FoundAndExplained]

Nick has some plans in the future to possibly teach how he does it. I will let him know you showed interest. Jared- Channel Manager

[@Shattered3582]

@@FoundAndExplained i would love that! i would be excited to see what he has to say. i have been learning blender for almost two years, and there is still so much more to learn. i would love to make better animations. thanks for replying i love your content as well

[@echomande4395]

It makes you wonder if they ever considered a tilt-wing like the LTV XC-142. There the entire wing, including engine nacelles, tilted up instead of just the nacelles..

[@oadka]

That's even worse no? Now the whole wing box needs to be capable of tilting the wing! So much stronger supports would be needed.

[@scottgalbraith7461]

I think keeping the wing horizontal during hover adds stability. Have you ever carried a sheet of wood in high wind?

[@CHIPY_XD]

[best pickup lines in history] "Dont be a soviet, be my GF" LOL

[@ectorwillis9228]

I would love to see the German vtol

[@ToBeIsWasWere]

Impressive, very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's VTOL.

[@andrikko2091]

Thank you for your videos. I live in a town that makes helicopters. I couldn't imagine that the buildings I pass next to every day on my way to university were designed like this

[@serge7633]

Thanks for sharing mate. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@steffenjespersen247]

The Soviet engineers was really good, it was the economy or politics that held many projects back.

[@Toxic_Man_]

Soviet: Let's create cool cars, comrades! After a few times:Oh no, comrades, it's too expensive and complicated to use!Better let's get back to simplicity and reliability! So for example, a cool T-64 tank turned into a simple massive T-72!

[@loganb7059]

Let’s be real. It’s for the best that many of these nice looking Soviet designs never got off the ground. They’d be left to rust away and be abused by the elements by corrupt Russians who don’t bother doing basic maintenance today. It’d be heart breaking.

[@StrikeNoir105E]

Indeed. There's so many examples of Soviet/Russian prestige projects that just end up rotting due to lack of maintenance, with the Admiral Kuznetsov being the premiere example of such.

[@wolfdima]

Ничего себе, я думал это реальная съёмка, а это 3д-модель! Моё почтение. Looks really badass

[@HellenicWolf]

excellent work

[@Godlover214-d5j]

This is awesome

[@michaelfrench3396]

I come for the square space advertisements and stay for the aircraft information

[@FoundAndExplained]

The dancing aliens appreciate it.

[@vugarmammadov4114]

You are right. Ambition is never enough. Especially in Russia

[@chadnixon1094]

I worked under the first active v22 unit in Iraq. Loud,but awesome.

[@lahma69]

Top notch CGI as usual!

[@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132]

Doesn’t any tilt rotor aircraft have very low survivability?

[@wehrabooslayer419]

the model is so nice looking

[@hiei5040]

Whoooo, love this channel

[@rickmaldoo4205]

Looks great

[@random_femboy_protogen]

This thing looks truly epic

[@mefobills279]

Russia won't need a tiltrotor. They have a close in A2AD defensive strategy. This is based on protecting your national borders. It is not an expeditionary army depending on rapid air and sea lift.

[@daemianbox]

How do those rocket launchers fire through the rotor?

[@Zigfried207]

Some kind of synchronizing mechanism like those that were on the planes of the Second World War?

[@themax9913]

Just another very nice video, loved it. You should make justice to the French, you should give a dive to the Mirage Mach 3 projects (there is even one for a Mach 4 Scramjet interceptor), the Logiduc stealth bomber project or the Hermes space shuttle project. The French really had a lot of interesting projects and they still do.

[@arthurwright8827]

I’d love to see a video of the first test flight when they fired their rocket pods!

[@muhammadanargya8182]

This man is almost like mustard’s channel

[@caelum2185]

6:38 Ah Rambo 3 ❤

[@Josh.Smith.]

I saw an osprey before, just sitting in a military base, on the way to get my cat off of Facebook marketplace

[@jimsvideos7201]

Firing a machine gun out the side door in that much downwash, hoo boy. Good luck.

[@darkwolflord]

How do youbtime unguided missles with the rotors without blowing the rotors off

[@andreww1225]

where is it?

[@DefaultProphet]

So brilliant it never flew :)

[@waltermarin7942]

Surprisingly they start with the Osprey project when this was cancelled , maybe was not internet but people selling information.

[@StrikeNoir105E]

Bell was the first to make the tiltrotor concept though, and in fact the Bell XV-15 - the direct predecessor to the V-22 - was already flying by 1977. As mentioned in the video, the Soviets had to do some espionage to get the concept from Bell.

[@clementjnr204]

I really enjoy your videos Sir Frm 🇳🇬

[@stevoplex]

The fastest way to kill a promising project is to add impossible requirements to a design that barely achieves prior requirements at already enormous cost overruns.

[@pathetic1062]

8:27 oh no that voice crack 💀

[@ЮраКопаев-н6м]

Wow so interesting!))

[@tobyc4957]

I would like to more of these helicopter videos

[@joaquimfonseca2047]

EXCELENTE CANAL......

[@millugaming133]

Great work regardless of the ongoing war in Ukraine. Unbiased videos and information. Keep up the good work.

[@bogdanscripcariu6501]

Psst... Still, The Russian Federation will win while you, the brainless europeans, enjoy the coldness! :D

[@moiGospodin-kp6sn]

An interesting fact: the Nazis started the war in Ukraine by seizing power in Kiev in 2014 with the support of America. then Ukraine began killing the peaceful population of Donbass (Russians) for the fact that Donbass does not recognize the new government of Ukraine. Fact: "glory to Ukraine, glory to heroes" is the slogan of the OUN and UPA, these organizations are heroes of Ukraine... and these same organizations are guilty of genocide of Poles and Jews. google it.

[@dimas152mm]

now i just noticed the drawings i saw about this tiltrotor are all in conventional configuration quite like the V-22 or the AW609, but the model in the video uses canard configuration hmmm

[@natashaeliot3628]

Thats a fairey rotodyne, like the fairey swordfish, not a "farlay" rotodyne.

[@HolyMackinaw]

Thank you for another great video, could you please explain what is happening at 6:57 and by what helicopter thank you very much eh.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

It looks like they're just dropping supplies, which matches what he's talking about at about the same time.