The Brutal Evolution of British Gang Culture

[@JimmyTheGiant]

Help me hit 1000 members on my discord! discord.gg/US8cuerhXJ ****Correction***** Cleveland is in Teesside, not Merseyside!

[@dylanreid1365]

Great video pal 👍

[@longiusaescius2537]

@JimmyTheGiant 9:52 This never happened btw but I guess lionizing ss windrush owners and king david hotel enthusiasts is better than the truth

[@tomelliott9]

Cleveland is in Teesside not Merseyside by the way bro

[@Doidera-h5f]

hi, i live in London, is dangerous , just like 3 world big city..

[@joelhall5124]

Bugger, commented before I saw this. But you're not the first to place it in Merseyside on KZbin when talking about crime.

[@woodjohnn]

Thanks for pointing out these “old -school, gentlemen gangsters” were really psychopaths too.

[@mogznwaz]

But they were ours - I’d prefer not to have to take on the whole world’s detritus too

[@deservingcomplexionm8111]

@@mogznwazthat is completely deranged thinking.

[@woodjohnn]

@@deservingcomplexionm8111 yeah, if someone is stabbing me I don’t really care what ethnicity they are.

[@darrenpowell7225]

@@mogznwaz sad man

[@minnumseerrund]

@@mogznwaz you gonna bleed the same, no matter if it's a white man or a black man stabbing you

[@Vagabondonabike]

Old school gangsters are no different to today, the movies have made people believe they were much more sophisticated and suave when in reality that was not the case

[@0fficerpimp]

People love to romanticise the part and theirs definitely a racial component aswell. Its like the Italian mafia, people mytholgise them as 'moral' criminals who had morals. In reality they were violent murders, who used threats of violence and coercion to shake down local legit businesses for 'protection money' and they all snitched on each other in the end lol

[@beatrixxkiddo3572]

Thank you for writing exactly what I was about to say‼️

[@Blackisciple]

Old school gangsters are not the same as the ones you see in 2024. Old skool gangsters didn't harm women, and children like the new gangsters of the day Old school Gangsters showed respect to the elders' new school gangsters DISRESPECT there Elders.

[@aw2584]

​@@Blackisciple hahahahah either youre like 15 or youre old but knew that crap from TV instead of actually living it. Same shit different day. Simple as

[@coryearnest9464]

They are both morally pieces of crap. but culturally they are completely different bruv

[@johnlloyd8109]

Gangsters still have slam poetry contests, but they call it drill rap nowadays.

[@rujotheone]

🤣

[@dee_-_]

😂😂

[@djpj6303]

They are not gangsters XD

[@AdeleKakwandi]

Young men writing poems to each other about piercing each other.....seems kind of gay....

[@TeshiKyoshi]

Gangsters dont go into song for millions of people to hear about the crimes they commit 😂 those are just musicians that put on an act for their audience

[@TheMarkzon]

"British police didnt do there jobs in the slums of britain" thats still true

[@eadweard.]

Nowadays they don't do their jobs anywhere.

[@therealdave06]

*their

[@kevinhughes1355]

The law and the police were formed to protect property and the people who owned it as they were the only ones who had the money to do it so that was the start of it and it’s still the same, the police don’t operate in slums or poor areas and are still not trusted because of it, little has changed in this respect and it’s unlikely to in the future.

[@RomaInvicta202]

What? You mean: "their jobs"? Otherwise it makes no sense

[@kathyschreiber9947]

Be glad UK that all these folks don't have the ability to get their hands on unlimited firepower like they do in the US. It's crazy here.

[@Adamemnon_Altmanel]

It's good to see that Cleveland in the US and Cleveland in the UK has something in common

[@tommybuckley4740]

That they both aren't in Merseyside?

[@JamesSmith-ny2gb]

Crazy white gang members?

[@GG-jw8pt]

And Boston!

[@coldven0m]

Well yeah, half of the town and city names in the US are taken from the original locations in the UK

[@CharlesShabubby]

Total shitholes?

[@benzobby4]

this man is so switched on. he teaches me something new in every video, be it statistics, history or just a fresh point of view, and somehow manages to keep it incredibly entertaining. love it mate, keep it up please

[@michaelhowell2326]

I love how British interviews are so often at a pub with a pint or glass of wine. From archeology to gangsters to war documentaries. It's so real.

[@WhatAboutZoidberg]

The longer time pases, the rounder the edges become. You forget all the inbetween and only remember what you want to or what you enjoyed about the past and soon its only nostalgia.

[@logosfocus]

soon disinformation is complete 💯

[@Ravello1111111111111111111]

Exactly. Say you love genghis khan and nobody will care. Say you love that Austrian painter then good luck

[@Precipiceofwind]

Wow you have it so bad, you can't say you love him. Truly heartbreaking.

[@JUSTREGULARSCREAMINGAAHH]

​@@Ravello1111111111111111111 yep

[@treble6824]

I love that fact about Man City. I always remind people of it when they tell me that City has no history lmao. I know that's not what they mean, but it's a pretty awesome fact that the team with 'no history' was created with the purpose of reducing youth gang culture

[@charly03090309]

Hey, start as you mean to go on

[@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835]

Two minutes in so I don’t know if he touches upon that, but no way are the Man City owners primary goal is to reduce gang culture, it’s just called Sports Washing and to influence people that the UAE is a great country

[@treble6824]

@@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835 lmao it was CREATED with the purpose of reducing youth gang culture. No one said anything about the owners caring about that today🤣 Nowadays they're money hungry asf. Lord knows I can't afford a ticket, let alone a season ticket. But hey- I heard they have a walking football club for pensioners lmao

[@JDascrambler]

The purpose when created has nothing to do with what it is now. Thats like telling people that american gangs started with the purpose of protecting the neighborhood like that's an awesome fact. 😂

[@kieranclarke-obrien6167]

@@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835 thats not what was going on in 1880 mate ya fuckin sausage

[@99BullD]

Gangs have existed in Britain for over 200 years, gang culture is just more seen now because we're in a social media age.

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

Gangs are also seen more now because they involve citizens much more than they used to. Old school gangs didn’t run down the road hacking at locals with machetes. They didn’t drug and gang rape women and children by the thousands in towns across the country. They kept their sadism mostly to themselves. Look at acid attacks… They happen only in Asia and UK (I wonder why in the U.K.) Last year 1,244 attacks! Trying to pretend gang culture of today is the same as before is rewriting history!

[@pevebe]

No it's more of a problem now because the youth imitate this saharan low life lifestyle

[@end2endburners635]

It’s as if you watched the video.

[@billydennis899]

I grew up in east London in the 90s,00s and there was gangs of every colour. In my postcode alone there was black gangs, white, Tamil, Pakistani, Sikhs but to this day the most brutal I’ve ever seen are the Albanian gangs. They were ruthless and savage. The rest were for the most part chill and seemed to only cause trouble fighting with other gangs but the Albanians seemed to target everyone. Maybe things have changed in the last 10 years or so though

[@neeciiw7840]

I agree with you comment and I grew up in Manchester. Have you seen Gangs of London it’s currently on Netflix? The Albanian man in that show reflects your comment💯

[@billydennis899]

@@neeciiw7840 I’ve not seen it no. But it’s on the list of things to check out though. But if it’s about the Albanians I’m not surprised. They can really be ruthless

[@neeciiw7840]

@@billydennis899 yeah try and watch especially season one, and No it’s about different gang groups trying to rule over London so you have Irish,Pakistan, Turkish ect

[@billydennis899]

@@neeciiw7840 ah that sounds pretty good. Forgot about the Turkish gangs. They were pretty ruthless too

[@wilkinsandwontinsachievemu3772]

any hispanic gangs exist in london?

[@1ddg3]

As someone who grew up in London, the media makes the UK out to be far worse than it is in reality. UK M rate is 0.87 per 100K. We're genuinely better compared to Canada M rate of 2.27 per 100K and USA 6.3 per 100K

[@nanping5428]

i have a friend thats been to the uk (from france) 5-6 times in the past 2 years out of those times he's been brutally mugged 3 times (really brutally)

[@discordapplications7606]

Our rates were going down then we let in 80iq migrants who can’t be put in prison cause of “mental health” we class 70iq as retarded. 😂

[@asmoothcriminal4822]

@@nanping5428 where'd he go? I know people from Coventry that haven't had it that bad, which is to say that's a hell of an outlier

[@yazanodeh8002]

@@nanping5428 At that point it's his fault. What did he do to get brutally mugged three times?

[@schneejacques3502]

I mean thats nothing to be proud of. Compared to east asia or central europe that is high

[@LordTimzor]

Damn man's going strong. 3 days in a row?!

[@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise]

This channel is a gem

[@peeron6829]

fr dude whats going on😂

[@1080owen]

Honestly love this channel, work rate is different level

[@adb_500]

Rent isn't getting lower

[@moncherixxx]

're uploads

[@Rydonattelo]

Living in London with a Scottish accent was brilliant because the gangs from Camberwell and that whole area would never bother me because they thought I was a gypsy and apparently the rule is nobody does anything to gypsies because the gypsies are so unpredictable

[@sudocyka]

It's true mate if you see a few white gypsy lads or even just one on the top deck of the bus and a whole gang gets on nobody is gonna dare bother them😂

[@dalejones6248]

To be fair, as a kid my old man taught me the rule to not fuck with the following; Gypsies Turks Polskis/Eastern euros Because all 3 were unpredictable and would roll on you in crazy numbers if you pissed them off, 200 cousins and brothers in a couple houses all with the hump with you, and so will roll on you in your gaff, cafe, or on the local high road and just serve you So yeah I can see how and why you got left well alone if that was the idea of you lol

[@joeynewman7479]

That’s cap😂😂😂 nobody scared of gypsies, gangs always put gypsies in their place, gypsies are scared of black ppl

[@joeynewman7479]

They didn’t touch you because you became cool with them…. If you wasn’t cool they would’ve robbed and done something to you 😂😂😂 I’m from Camberwell and they ain’t no rule, gypsies aren’t anything 😂😂 being scared of a gypo is like being scared of a skateboarder, idk why you making stuff up because gypsies are a even more of a target than any other race because there are much worse ppl, although gypsies are looked to be softies/chavs stop lying to make your ppl seem tough😂😂😂 that’s the funniest thing I heard, gypsies are scared of blacks and Asian and don’t make up any crimes in the country, all the crimes are blacks Asian turks etc, gypsies don’t make up any type of crime 😂

[@AdawaShiwani]

They must be dumb to think a scott sounds like a gypsy

[@yusefslim6428]

even county lines is not a new thing, like 20 years ago it was just called Cunch but obviously was not as well documented

[@phoenixradio4143]

It's just a BBC way of saying distribution

[@Si74l0rd]

Even before that, there were small picturesque villages with serious class A problems. Snodland in Kent where my grandparents lived was more of a crossroads with a couple of shops and a pub, than a village, but there were a lot of people hooked on Class A's there. Same for a lot of little northern villages where I had mates who grew up. County lines and all that just made sure there were no villages and towns that didn't have a drug problem, by overseeing distribution regionally and sending kids anywhere there was a gap in the market.

[@aries6776]

As a teenager in the 90s I was aware of 'county' lines gangs. As you say it just hadn't hit the mainstream media. I had a friend who got shot to death in a very well-to-do small village and it was due to a drug debt. The only difference is the police didn't seem to be aware of the problem then.

[@keiranOLeary-n8n]

Still Cunch mate, depends where you are

[@jasywasy829]

My mum use to work for the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) prosecuting youth offenders. She worked really really hard to make sure these kids (who had sometimes done really awful things) were given every available bit of support and help. When Kier Starmer started running the CPS he made it all about statistics. My mum use to be pulled into her managers office all the time because her prosecution statistics weren't "good enough". She argued that the numbers of children she prosecuted shouldn't be relevant, and she continued trying to get these kids support through things like the youth offending team or medical help. Eventually, Starmer's policies made it impossible for her to do her job in a way that she could feel good about and she retired early. It's no accident that our prisons are over crowded and children are being funnelled into gang culture. Our Prime Minister had a massive part to play in that. It's so depressing.

[@RDCFemmes]

In the 4 months he has been in powe 😏

[@xavilend]

Jimmy, you're moving into god-tier youtube journalism, keep up the amazing work, truly top tier eye opening content yet again.

[@scapingby]

this isn't journalism.

[@falldamage3790]

Plz plz plz do a video about Scotlands gang culture and how bin a knife save a life worked back in the day in Easterhouse etc etc. love your videos bro just want one on we’re I am from lol 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@bruh_gaming9368]

As in the modern gang culture or all the gang culture from Scotland? Because id love to see the Bridgeton Billy Boys or the ultras in scotland.

[@theavenger775]

From San Toi to Ultra via Tongs (and Frankie Vaughan) Ya Bas!

[@falldamage3790]

@@theavenger775 tongs ya bass

[@MadKieranM]

Glasgow gang violence has changed alot in the past 15/20 years. At that time you wouldn't feel safe leaving your own housing estate but nowadays there isn't so much, don't get me wrong there are still areas I wouldn't walk alone in.

[@StuartAnderson-xl4bo]

​@@MadKieranMthere is no area in Scotland that you can't walk in, just don't be naive or wide

[@sultonerap]

Yo jimmy, I’m from California, USA. Watching your videos gives me so much insight in how yall across the ponds culture developed, love it man. Thanks for all the great videos.

[@NicholasGreen-b6e]

Respect .. real..knows real... UK 🇬🇧 isn't an easy place to live. High unemployment Lots of drugs around Crime. UK is full of lunatics in general Gangs in every city .. Council estates are full of single parent family's. Broken homes ... I grew up in the 80s and 90s and you had to no how to street fight Living on a council estate

[@konstantingorskiy5716]

Bro, such a good one, as always As always describing a very important thing, that generation after generation people in power do NOT care about the ones "below" and see people as an asset to grow their wealth.

[@ToeNailGathering]

The post code of the clip at 17:36 is CB2 3PA in the Cambridge city centre for everyone not asking. These lads were arrested shortly after

[@whiteboyramen]

Jimmy is truly blessing us this week with a trinity of bangers. Thanks for the 3 peat my guy

[@rafaeltorres4548]

Yo man your videos are getting increasingly good, so much more sociologically insightful, and I'm very glad to see that your heart is on the right side of the political spectrum. Keep up the good work !

[@dperson9212]

This guy really made a video about gangs and didnt cover Burgers vs Johnnies once, the most reported gang war we've seen in the last 30 yrs, that still divides the 2nd largest city in the country.

[@usmanfarooq96]

How bout you make a video about them and we can watch

[@johnalddrumph456]

Imo the biggest change in gangs and gang culture is the switch from a few larger more organized groups to significantly more, less organized groups. Back then, the average guy just wanted to be a “square” and take care of his family. Nowadays there seem to be a lot of guys who, let’s be honest, wouldn’t have been accepted into the mob of mafia or what have you, but still want that title of gangster. So what do they do? Round up a couple knuckle headed friends and now suddenly there’s a new “gang” causing nonsense around the city.

[@andrewwilson7909]

Cleveland in Merseyside? Long way from Middlesbrough to Liverpool.

[@TasteTheD]

Why aye laa 😆

[@mattycollectemall]

Was just about to comment this. It's not why aye either, that's further North lol

[@TasteTheD]

​@@mattycollectemall Fair, Teesiders want to batter me now haha

[@eddybrek5298]

Teesiders are Yorksire lot, sound nout like north east .. they have a awful accent tbf 😂 ​@TasteTheD

[@zellalaing5439]

Thanks for clarity, was confused when he said Merseyside then the dot on the map was nearer Hull.

[@glurfikus5544]

I have to say that i really like alot about your channel. The topics are really interesting, very good representated by your pleasant and charismatic style. Considering this vid absolute top notch. Regards from Berlin.

[@stuballingerart]

"Abyssal whip on the opps" is a fucking S+ tier line

[@AbdulMajeed-z5k1f]

Great video. Really strong and unbiased views that helps to delve deeper into the problem of gang culture and crime. Great job!

[@JB_exposures]

Theres actually a "newspaper" you can buy in Glasgow called the digger which talks about modern local crimes and criminality

[@a_skellington]

The moment i heard they started doing protection rackets i thought of the monty python sketch, a few minutes later into this video and to my complete and utter joy there it is. 7:49

[@Si74l0rd]

Yeah man, gangs have always been a thing. I went to primary school on upper tulse hill, a bit down from Brixton high street, and there were kids in my class who had older siblings in the 28s. Generally though, if you weren't interfering with their business you'd have no problems. Same with the other yardie offshoots, I knew a few yardies and I never had any problems with them. I used to buy my grade from a yardie taxi firm, and all sorts of people would stop by to buy. They'd let you skin up and smoke in the basement, and I've seen businessmen in pinstripe suits with a bowler hat perched on the table next to them while they zooted up. By and large I never had any problems with organised gangs when I lived in South London. Tbh back then I'd rather deal with someone in a gang than a lone wolf, because you know what you're getting with the yardies. They never let skin colour interfere with business. They didn't care I was a white boy skater, I was a customer, so I was treated with respect. Not to say it didn't kick off in the basement from time to time, but it was never about colour or gangs, it was usually personality clashes or someone owing someone something. I used to buy off organised groups of Albanians, Moroccans, Afghanis and Turks too, and they were all the same. If you were a customer they were always sweetness and light lol. But I've seen them pull out the cleavers and go after someone too, so I always made an effort to be respectful to people too. It used to be almost all gang on gang crime, but I'm not sure that's true these days. It's anything for a profit or a rush, or some lyrics for your song, and I'm glad I moved out of London twenty years ago. I live in Bristol, and while I'm sure there are gangs, I've never had an issue with anyone, even living in what are generally regarded as dodgy areas here. They're just nowhere as dodgy as where I grew up, so I feel pretty safe on the streets here, no matter what part of Bristol I'm in. I certainly wouldn't want to raise kids in london, that was why I moved. The chance of your kid getting sucked into that life, or just being a random victim even if they're not part of the scene, is just too high nowadays.

[@danielcunningham6727]

Well said mate your experiences are pretty similar to mine only in Birmingham I'm a married family man now so don't even really smoke that much anymore but I can't actually think of a single time I've ever found myself in a really sticky situation

[@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701]

how wonderful that we've let in the criminals from every other country in the world too. isnt mass migration wonderful

[@joeynewman7479]

Most gangs are African

[@Vincent_Clarke]

You've never had a problem because you are part of the problem mate

[@Si74l0rd]

@@Vincent_Clarke Ooh, am I bad man because I smoke the devil's lettuce?

[@timlett99]

I know our countries or at least the people in it don’t particularly get along all that well but as someone from an area in the US where you turn left down the road there was a shooting last night and if you turn right there’s dozens of million dollar homes this video really put a lot in perspective. I’ve followed US and UK gang culture for a while now and I feel like this is the perfect video to give the average person a better understanding of why gang life and crime is the way it is. Well done Jimmy!

[@nome3gg]

england is 10x safer than the states, even safer for stbbing rates. our media just sensationalizes it the same way your media sensationalizes guns

[@timlett99]

@@creativeusername3408 politically and such yeah but the populations don’t particularly like each other lmao

[@cocofashosho]

Great bit of social commentary here m8, really fighting the good the fight.

[@PSwarrior25]

That thumbnail is cold

[@neeciiw7840]

💯💯

[@khonjel_singh]

I've watched few videos of yours recently. Moral of the story is, british news media is the gift that keeps on giving.

[@rujotheone]

This is quite interesting. Pulls on a lot of themes.

[@ourkidof91]

Growing up in Manchester in the 90s it felt like everyone knew of the Noonan family, and this was pre-internet. They were like local celebrities but in hindsight so weird that we were all just ignored that they were horrible, violent psychopaths.

[@CadianRefugee]

Love these video's where you start in the past and bring it to modern day. Keep it up.

[@pradlark]

Amazing vid dude! I think this vid would get more views with the title - "The Myth Of The Gentleman Gangster" tbh

[@psych0r0gue1]

My grandfather was a gangster from when he was a kid. Things have changed just enough to stay the same.

[@nubien9]

Quality content as always my G 😎❤️💛💚🖤✊🏿🇯🇲🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@CarlosD374]

I lived in England for a couple of years as an international student and can say I considered my cultural induction complete after I had a couple of encounters with some local British gangs in Canterbury. I've got to say, gangs in the UK are...unique? I was at McDonalds (before I learnt that's sort of where sketchy things happen in smallish cities) and a group of 5 kids locked me into the bathroom by throwing themselves against the door. I just stood still for 30 seconds before they realised I couldn't care less, but I was surprised to see all of them were at most 15 years old. Some of my classmates had an incident were another kid gang stole some things from them at our local (heavy drinking) park; of course my friends beat the sh*t out of them after one tried to punch a guy 20cm taller than him in the face, but from what I heard it was definitely a weird experience. Also, are the black trousers, hoodie and balaclava a standardised uniform or something? Like, does M&S sell it as a full outfit? Because why they all dress the same beats me.

[@olliestudio45]

Sounds like you encountered some run-of-the-mill schoolkids. You should see what mum is like!

[@baykerr]

If you're up to no good, it helps to cover your face and wear dark clothing as it makes you less recognisable on CCTV. What you encountered sounds more like badly behaved kids because actual gang members wouldn't have let your friends beat them up without pulling out a knife.

[@Luftkenza]

Sounds like the average chav,honestly you’re getting much worse from them if you’re white. Atleast they don’t discriminate,everyone’s having their night ruined when they around 😂

[@cocokane1233]

Im guessing that park is Dane John gardens haha canterbury is shit

[@longiusaescius2537]

Spaniard?

[@3Horus]

Great topic as always

[@samuelsharp5250]

Wow I loved this video! As the descendant of Jews who fled to England from Eastern Europe and the Mediterranean in the 18 - 1900s, this provided some insight into the history of that group during their developing years in the UK.

[@lolza-qh2xw]

2 runescape references in the vid bros been chopping those willows and wanted a video to make around it

[@David_Baxendale]

My view of gangs, from the old gentleman gangs of the past (as they are seen) to the ones we have today was summed up by an Englishman years ago. "Round them up, put them in a field and...." The PR has been good but all these gangs have been a blight on the communities around them. It's as if we need to make them seem more civilized than they they ever were to somehow hide what we are capable of doing to each other.

[@oshimida]

Teesside not Mersyside.

[@ChrisMustard]

I've been watching your channel a while, and it was as soon as you told me something I didn't know, I SUBBED. THIS vid is full of "I don't know", brilliant. Thank you, Giant by name Giant in research, grand guy.

[@Poltergits-Lampost]

Great channel dude! Really good work

[@pistolen87]

It's reductive to say that crime is a consequence of bad economics. There are poor communities that have low crime rates. Not saying it's not a problem, but I think it's overstated sometimes.

[@mmediocahyt1170]

causation has been established though, poverty is the main amplifier of crime

[@doshpits]

lol what? poverty/ resource deprivation is objectively the reason why crime is so pervasive. and if not then what is it? do you unironically think people are just born crimogenic?

[@doshpits]

lol what? poverty/ resource deprivation is objectively the reason why crime is so pervasive. and if not then what is it? do you unironically think people are just born crimogenic?

[@doshpits]

lol what? poverty/ resource deprivation is objectively the reason why crime is so pervasive. and if not then what is it? do you unironically think people are just born crim0g3nic?

[@doshpits]

what lol? so you think people are just born crimog3nic or something? if it’s not resource deprivation/poverty - what is the cause?

[@politicalx6151]

Great video!

[@Bugdenl]

5:04 - 'MAN stance'

[@Meomichelle]

Watching you and your highly researched fun videos puts a smile on my face. You’re the best at what you do!

[@valeriebrisbois9104]

Thanks a lot for your videos. They are very documented and teach me a lot.

[@cization2839]

kid at the end saying getting stabbed over nothing is nothing is a solid fact. as someone who saw people working in brixton payed weekly to not have your van robbed its insane watching kids stand by vans all day and fight other people is pretty insane

[@TheFounderAdministrator]

People really don’t get what “culture” means anymore. Putting labels on everything. Society is a huge cattle of sheep, following mindlessly without questioning who are the shepherds, or how to become a better self.

[@Di.ismyname]

I lived in Bethnal Green for 4 years . I used to frequent public houses in the area, and the locals said that the Krays where bully’s and know body liked them.

[@W.waffles]

know body 💀

[@Vincent_Clarke]

Yeah after fascism ended in Italy everyone said the fascists were bullies and "nobody liked them". Sure as heck maybe people did not "like" them but only few stood up to them, meaning they respected and feared them. With the benefit of hindsight and perhaps a lot of social pressure to say old gangsters/fascists were bad, people have learned what they're supposed to say. Or you just came across the "right" bunch and not those who would respect the Krays - which btw most of those who lived through that time are now dead or too old to walk to the pub.

[@LiimpZ]

@@Vincent_Clarke Your point?

[@Vincent_Clarke]

@@LiimpZ point is that people will conform to what they think they should say

[@LiimpZ]

@@Vincent_Clarke But where is the connection between this guy living in Bethnal green and the end facism in Italy?

[@ivystopia]

really well put together, thank you for making these connections.

[@brianah7211]

Very good video! Excellent work! Not because it confirmed anything I knew but because I learned a whole bunch of new things.

[@Wavy_Gravy]

Population goes up, murder rates goes up. Amount of gangster increses, the tighter the competition for that top spot, the worse and worse the offenses become. That, and now a days, kids respect, disrespect. Odd, tbh.

[@curiositycloset2359]

And yet, some groups commit crimes at a higher rate than others. Hmm

[@datboy1628]

Yeah, cos those groups are poorer

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@datboy1628 poorer than the white working class?

[@datboy1628]

@@curiositycloset2359.... Yes

[@abyyoung5990]

​@curiositycloset2359 yeah like white cultures in Cleveland

[@crazypantz3492]

Demographics are destiny

[@scousehead]

Mass immigration has destroyed this country.

[@Blexplays]

You'd think bro has stocks in Squarespace

[@JDascrambler]

Not really. Common sense would tell you he gets paid to advertise for them.

[@nickiperkins3839]

They probably sponsor him for the shoutout

[@quiteopinionated4346]

Can we start getting bibliography’s for the resources to use please? You cover topics taught in education and having these resources can prove useful to those people!

[@lmtheninja]

Great video. Would have loved to hear something on the 70’s / 80’s gang culture after the downfall of the krays. The arifs etc

[@Jimjim226]

“Man see blue story, they’re mortified. Man see scarface and it’s glorified”

[@rocky-xh8jw]

will you do a video on travellers?

[@joeynewman7479]

Travellers ain’t nothing😂😂😂

[@chrismckellar9350]

Unfortunately, the social crime issues started at the beginning of the industrial revolution and deteriorated further when Margret Thatcher introduced the new type of capitalism being neoliberal economics and governance in the late 1970's where the wealthy became wealthier, the middle class started to struggle and the working class became poorer. Capitalism/neoliberal economics is about 'for profit at least cost'. With increasing global geopolitical, economic, trade, manufacturing with its associated supply chains and health uncertainties, advent of technology especially social media and AI and the effects of a warming planet, poverty and social crime will continue to grow, especially in those western countries who adopted 'for profit at least cost' neoliberal economics and governance in the early 1980's.

[@aries6776]

Absolutely. Wealth inequality is only increasing. Wealth inequality is the biggest scourge to mankind next to climate change.

@@aries6776 Wealth inequality has increased significantly in the US over the past 50 years. Over this period, violent crime rates FELL dramatically. Your entire theory is complete nonsense that is contradicted by reality. You clowns love talking about how much you love science, well here is an experiment to test your hypothesis, and it failed catastrophically.

[@chilechi1846]

I appreciate your factual contribution. Sadly, too many people don't read enough books on globalisation and international relations to help them understand how and why Britain's economic landscape has changed immeasurably. People really need to read more because ignorance is often a sizeable source of frustrations which only grow in strength and size when one does not learn substantiated facts.

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@chilechi1846 - I agree with you. What alot of people don't realise, that neoliberal economics aka capitalism leads to corporate and political short termism in regards to thinking and planning which leads to wealth inequality, social, education, etc issues. In fact that neoliberal economics and governance is a a modern take of the old Victorian capitalism and governance.

[@hurryingdoor7435]

Always looking forward to your videos

[@iaintjesus9399]

Severely misjudged this video from the thumbnail, and general ignorance of who tf you are. Good shit, chief. Got you a new subscriber

[@Black_Templar_Marshal]

I heard down the line that they were also called the pikey blinders on the account a lot of them were gypsy travellers

[@sams3015]

21:47 “The troubles” was a lot more than simple gang culture, it’s extremely complex, for example you would probably get butchered for not calling any those Protestant ones British. To answer your question though, in the Republic of Ireland, our media makes it seems like the gangs out of the Dublin seem are the biggest criminals world wide and even when there isn’t things going on atm there is nearly always a documentary about them like the Dublin Narcos series that airs on Sky in the UK (we have similar shows air domestically for last 25 years)

[@Splifford-The-Big-Red-Dog]

Although it is just gang culture now, the uda, uvf and ira etc aren't what they used to be, I've seen reports of catholics from Cliftonville (North Belfast) selling drugs for the uda, its all drugs n money now

[@James-ly3wf]

You hit the nail on the head my friend - “gangster” is a complete media narrative going back to James Cagney, through the Godfather, DeNiro, Scorsese, Gangster rap, Death row, all “urban” music, drill or whatever. It’s all just made up stories to glamourise and promote being a “gangster” so they’ve got a never ending supply of impressionable yout to sell thier drugs for them and keep poor people down. Imo.

[@seamusmcfadden15]

It always makes me wonder why unionists are even unionist, like this English lad referred to their gangs as Irish which I’d imagine is how most actual Brits see them , as Irish

[@sams3015]

@@seamusmcfadden15 I think a lot of it is do with English people don’t understand how their own United Kingdom operates or it’s history. A lot of them don’t even realise we are no longer in the UK or commonwealth and it’s even more confusing NI is. I think because of this the unionist have a bigger chip on their shoulder about it all. Many English see being Irish or Scottish or Welsh like being from Yorkshire or Cornwall and don’t really understand the deeper contexts with these things.

[@seamusmcfadden15]

@@sams3015 Well said 👏

[@timmy5876]

Old gangsters were seen as gentleman because people in general were more gentlemanly, it was the trend back then and having a lot of respect was more important than most things. Today the trend isn’t to wear suits it’s to wear street wear and manners aren’t as important as they used to be so where old gangsters might approach someone in a respectful way initially, today gangsters will walk upto someone and just be rude and only say what they need to say to get what they want, respect isn’t necessary

[@AERakim13]

Complete lie and dillusion. I’m from Bethnal Green and I went to Bethnal Green academy (school the krays went) ask any white elder that lived on vallance road or near they will tell you they use to bully the fuck out of people. And before the U.K. had a term called “footpads” which is basically what road man is now. But guess the difference ahhh yeh have a guess .

[@aries6776]

Nothing has changed. If you disrespected the Krays your days were numbered. What's the difference?

[@timmy5876]

@@aries6776 exactly, but that’s only if u disrespected them, if u didn’t do anything bad to them and showed signs of respect they’d show it back, gangsters nowadays aren’t the same they’ll go at anyone.

[@pelagaki97]

Did the people see gangsters as gentlemen back in the day?

[@timmy5876]

@@pelagaki97 if u watched this video you’d know that a lot of gangsters were respected, obviously not all of them there’s exceptions to everything but u can still respect a person but not what they do

[@brentsunlay8232]

Like always, another amazingly insightful video! Thanks Jimmy - your videos are always worth the wait!

[@keletubbyn3948]

great video man! i'm discovering your channel right now and i'm really liking your content, keep it up

[@iansmith8016]

3:58 Dr. Phil and his gangster roots

[@bumbaclart7879]

😂😂😂

[@TheKalaxis]

I live in Middlesbrough and can confirm it is indeed a very scary and unsafe place at night. The BBC turned up to my home village (A place called Hemlington) to make a Panorama special about the crimes there. That's how bad it is.

[@laurencestefan5435]

Spent a week in Middlesbrough for work once and saw some much shit, I felt like I was in a simulation. No disrespect but I would never go back personally.

[@therealjiggajheeze3507]

As a local why do you think that is? has Middlesbrough as a whole experienced a certain type of cultural enrichment over the last 30 years i wonder i wonder

[@ThatGuysProject]

Middlesbrough is a strange place, one one hand you have a lovely beach a short way up the road, then slightly further you have mansions with crackheads on the next road over.

[@charliecosta3971]

You can't look at London as a whole when comparing per 1000, Peckham alone as 172 per 1000 that is around the same population as Cleveland and there's loads of different places like that in London, it's all the really nice parts of London that brings the average down when comparing. So this is why it's always London that is spoken about London is split between 32 boroughs and each borough is the size of an average UK city

[@FGinoz]

Fair point

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

That’s exactly right!

[@LuXangoCain]

Peckham has 107 per thousand, 13th out of 23 Southwark wards. Borough has 500+ per thousand and Bermondsey, Rotherhithe and London Bridge all score higher than Peckham on the crimes per 1000 scale.

[@closetmonster4471]

Good video; it definitely highlights what the media does. ❤

[@leecallam-target182]

Great video again brov.

[@nickparamedic]

JTG, your content is always highly interesting, well researched, thoughtful and very professionally presented…. Each piece that you put out is true video essay, worthy of an undergraduate level of recognition….You have a real skill as a content provider, keep up the good work fella…….

[@JimmyTheGiant]

Mate thank you!

[@NietzscheReloaded]

Waiting for the youts to jump in the comments and be like “the krays was my great grandads”

[@Biggee1982]

My aunts dogs cousin knew them honestly 🙃

[@Chomp-Rock]

My aunt's cousin's dog knew them dishonestly. ​@@Biggee1982

[@Si74l0rd]

Pretty sure Ronnie and Reggie were both gay, although Reggie did marry a beard for a bit, and a woman has come forward claiming she's his secret lovechild. So he might have swung both ways.

[@michaelharrison3602]

My mum's budgie used to drive Reggie about and my nan's cat Tiddles went to school with the twins😂 😂

[@michaelharrison3602]

​@@Si74l0rdof course there's money to be made by Reggie's love child writing a book about them.after all anyone who ever so much as spoke to the twins has written a book about them

[@Kyteasahigh]

The new “gangsters” are *cringe*

[@dee_-_]

There not even Gangsters lol

[@El_Negro2003]

People should stop idolising old gangs

[@aselonumber1]

@@El_Negro2003fr ts is cringe too

[@godrules3596]

Because they are thugs not gangsters

[@liamburke8225]

loving these regular uploads my man! videos are very well made too Jimmy! 👏🏻👏🏻

[@kaiabbs4325]

What an amazing video start to finish

[@markfrancis3162]

Some severe misunderstandings involving the paramilitaries in Northern Ireland Firstly calling UVF/UDA/UFF "Irish gangsters" is absolute madness, considering their targeting criteria was purely based off of their victims being ethnically Irish - its like calling HAMAS a Jewish group, when their sole purpose is to try to destroy them. They also weren't gangsters - very few terrorists in Northern Ireland were making money during the troubles. After the Good Friday Agreement they decayed into drug gangs, particularly on the Protestant side. But then to compare these people with the Kinihans is crazy. Ideology motivated the paramilitaries in Northern Ireland, not money. So they are classified as terrorists not gangsters but their circumstances are so far removed from anything else in the UK that they dont have any comparisons whatsoever.

[@releasethequackin266]

Great point, I was thinking the same. Completely different game. Though I think the point he was trying to make overall was on media focus on particular groups of people, other than that you're absolutely right.

[@terrorgaming459]

There paramilitary’s not gangsters loo

[@joeynewman7479]

Why you talking with no knowledge

[@jayo7812]

Gangs can also be influenced by ideology. In America, the origins of crips and bloods is actually ideological then turned to incorporate money.

[@f-man3274]

23:20 A very crude mistake. "Thieves-in-law" is not a Russian gang, it is just an upper rank in criminal hierarchy that can be in different organized crime groups. The actual names of these groups in 90s were like "Solntsevskie", "Uralmash", "Lake Cooperative" etc.

[@Ructions]

00:54 my man

[@STARMANE908]

Lol love that game was just grinding construction

[@jackknight6149]

As someone who uses KZbin for mainly OSRS content, I was delightfully surprised to see this on the one time I click on something different 🤣🤣

[@Onlydadshorts]

The place you ended up too many times after you getting KOed

[@Hash1Suspect]

LMAO I'm pking and listening to this, and i was like YESSSS

[@rickyjames4228]

Very good keep up the truth and good work because people really need to know.

[@bennett8535]

Once again, amazing work.

[@chrisxshock]

What a stellar video! Fantastic points man. I say it again, better videos than 99.9% of anything media companies are making.

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

This video is full of distortions and misinformation. Can’t compare the Irish troubles violence with street thugs. Also, old school gangs didn’t run down the road hacking at locals with machetes. They didn’t drug and gang rape women and children by the thousands in towns across the country. They kept their sadism mostly to themselves. Look at acid attacks… They happen only in Asia and UK (I wonder why in the U.K.) Last year 1,244 attacks! Trying to pretend gang culture of today is the same as before is rewriting history!

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

this video is full of distortions and misinformation. Can’t compare the Irish troubles violence with street thugs. Also, old school gangs didn’t run down the road hacking at locals with machetes. They didn’t drug and gang rape women and children by the thousands in towns across the country. They kept their sadism mostly to themselves. Look at acid attacks… They happen only in Asia and UK (I wonder why in the U.K.) Last year 1,244 attacks! Trying to pretend gang culture of today is the same as before is rewriting history.

[@moleculeman27]

Cleveland is the other side of the country to Merseyside?

[@Bubbleskittymaster]

Is it just me, but why do so many cities that suck in the US also share names for shitty cities in the uk

[@curiositycloset2359]

I mean, Birmingham uk shits on Birmingham ab. And Manchester UK is quite nice, as cities go.

[@Chomp-Rock]

Lack of imagination

[@BethzeidaJohnson]

Informative thanks

[@darkerarts]

Awesome work Jimmy!

[@rozza2012]

Gangs? Asian gangs? Don't mention the word 'grooming'.

[@randylahey8101]

You're not supposed to notice

[@mrsentencename7334]

Well done for using Asian and not specifying which. Your compliance has been noted on our systems

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

Indeed, this video is full of distortions and misinformation. Can’t compare the Irish troubles violence with street thugs. Also, old school gangs didn’t run down the road hacking at locals with machetes. They didn’t drug and gang rape women and children by the thousands in towns across the country. They kept their sadism mostly to themselves. Look at acid attacks… They happen only in Asia and UK (I wonder why in the U.K.) Last year 1,244 attacks! Trying to pretend gang culture of today is the same as before is rewriting history!

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

Indeed, this video is full of distortions and misinformation. Can’t compare the Irish troubles violence with street thugs. Also, old school gangs didn’t run down the road hacking at locals with machetes. They didn’t drug and gang rape women and children by the thousands in towns across the country. They kept their sadism mostly to themselves. Look at acid attacks… They happen only in Asia and UK (I wonder why in the U.K.) Last year 1,244 attacks! Trying to pretend gang culture of today is the same as before is rewriting history!

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

Plus, can’t compare London (approaching 10 million) to Cleveland (130,000) for crime!! London is 10x bigger with some of the safest areas of the country! He should have compared the crime riffled neighbourhoods of London with Cleveland and then he’d find the London quarters with a much higher concentration of crime!

[@lloydjones3801]

The Krays tried to do Liverpool and got laughed at, soft southerners

[@pogforts]

same thing happened in manchester city and also in old town bolton

[@deanjohn433]

Same happened in Sheffield they were told they weren’t wanted here

[@michaelharrison3602]

True they had contacts in otitis but no real power there

[@michaelharrison3602]

​@@pogfortsalso Newcastle and Glasgow even In South London people in the criminal world knew who they were but before the press realised that stories about ",,gangsters"sold papers the vast majority of people had never heard of them. I lived in Camberwell opposite one of Charlie Richardsons yards but up until the so called torture trial neither I or my parents had any idea that he was anything other than a scrap metal dealer who had lots of tough guys around him .his brother Eddie had a reputation as a fighter but none of these people could have been described as famous. Unlike say New York where everyone in the 80s whether they were wall street brokers or dustman from the bronze knew who John Gotti was. The newspapers love glamourising crime

[@inferno0020]

Maybe South Asian gangs were underreported in the UK because their communities in the UK are more tight-knit and prefer to resolve crimes within their community instead of asking British cops to intervene?

[@dadoogie]

They were busy covering up their organised noncing too

[@MostRightWingManInBritain]

Couldn’t this statement also be stated regarding the Catholic gangs and black gangs and white gangs and all other criminal groups who have a chokehold over the area

[@islandpersuasion4690]

@@dadoogie😂😂😂😂😂

[@fabonzanaon8177]

​@@MostRightWingManInBritainWhite Gangs? Which century? 😂

[@Adamfandango]

@@fabonzanaon8177all centuries. Gang crime has always been in issue in the UK, even before immigration was anything noteworthy.

[@giannidcenzo]

Sharp! Great video Jimmy.