The BRUTAL Post War Execution Of Joachim Peiper - Burned Alive 30 Years After WW2

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During the Second World War, there were many army commanders that ordered many atrocities and war crimes. Some of these resulted in them being brought to trial after the conflict, and one of these was Joachim Peiper. Peiper was rather senior in the SS as Heinrich Himmler and he were very close, and he was one of Himmler's favourite adjutants. Peiper was a skilled military commander, and he commanded Kampfgruppe Peiper inside of the Waffen-SS, and they were a group known for their fierce fighting, and for committing terrible war crimes.
Joachim Peiper was known for his short temper, and he also ordered his soldier to execute many Prisoners Of War. One of these atrocities committed by his men was the Malmedy Massacre when over 80 American POWs were gunned down in a field, as Peiper was frustrated with the delay a skirmish with them caused his advance. After the Second World War, he was placed on trial for his crimes, and was sentenced to death however he never faced execution as his sentence was commuted and then reduced significantly. But he managed to live the last decades of his life inside of France in a small village rather peacefully, however things changed in the 1970s.
Many people found out that Peiper was living in the village of Traves, and a hate campaign emerged to try and drive him out. Peiper was sent threatening letters, in which his house was threatened to be burned down. He believed this would never happen, but on Bastille Day 1976 his house was firebombed. Peiper tried to shoot at the attackers who set his property ablaze, however he quickly became overwhelmed by the flames and smoke and died inside of the house fire. It was a shocking event, with the former SS commander being burned alive inside his house, and being killed 30 years after the war had came to an end.
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@pollyllwynfedwen8763
@pollyllwynfedwen8763 2 жыл бұрын
Living in post war France was possibly not the smartest of moves.
@louisbarraud7853
@louisbarraud7853 2 жыл бұрын
And also saying he doesn't care for Frenchmen aka the people he will live with
@joseywales3789
@joseywales3789 2 жыл бұрын
Arrogance? Superiority? Conceit? Hubris? Or Foolishness and Stupidity?
@jefesalsero
@jefesalsero 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, or Uruguay would have been better post-war destinations.
@schizoidboy
@schizoidboy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that myself, he might have been better off living in Switzerland or somewhere else neutral, but he moved to France. Granted according to Fredrick Forsythe, the writer of The Day of the Jackal and The Odessa Files, there were some parts of France that were friendlier to the Germans than others and this carried on in the post war years. However, you still have to wonder what this guy was thinking.
@ravarga4631
@ravarga4631 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldhave bern executed 1945/46 this was murder,
@noelmaher4633
@noelmaher4633 2 жыл бұрын
"Settled permanently in France" got his wish..
@neilmurray6943
@neilmurray6943 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he liked the food!
@enyawrebbuj9458
@enyawrebbuj9458 2 жыл бұрын
He rests permanently now in Bavaria.
@kerryclark4967
@kerryclark4967 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, Rest In Pieces!
@jonathancatz6432
@jonathancatz6432 Жыл бұрын
The french authoritirs aught to have been more careful before giving legal residence to just everyone. Don't forget that the devil himself-khomeini-perish his name-lived there peacefully before he returned to iran and wreaked havoc on the whole middle east.
@anaroberts5938
@anaroberts5938 Жыл бұрын
BOOM - did, the allies kill surendering German soldiers . No sir . Only the Canadians. How many?Only one.. That is one too Many.
@marcwilliams2504
@marcwilliams2504 Жыл бұрын
"It was a shocking event, with the former SS commander being burned alive inside his house, and being killed 30 years after the war had came to an end. " Kudos to the French people who brought justice to this murderous thug.
@brada2354
@brada2354 2 жыл бұрын
They found that his hand had been cut off too. The shotgun was given to him by a neighbour who was an ex SS artilleryman.
@docbrosk
@docbrosk 2 жыл бұрын
The ex-artilleryman was also French, in the SS Charlemagne division....
@brada2354
@brada2354 2 жыл бұрын
@@docbrosk thank you
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brad and Alan, I wondered who gave him the shotgun and why they helped him.
@docbrosk
@docbrosk 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbryson2899 I thought I knew a good deal about military history, but it was only a few years ago I learned how many (about 2/3) of the personnel in the Waffen SS were NOT Germans....Guess "our friends" have worked ard to conceal that aspect from view.
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
@@docbrosk no they didn’t just ignorant fools not doing their due diligence
@kenm8376
@kenm8376 2 жыл бұрын
We have a saying, "Build a man a fire and you warm him for an evening. Set a man on fire and you warm him for the rest of his life." It's so nice to see that he learned that.
@jrvgwagner
@jrvgwagner 2 жыл бұрын
😅😅🤣🤣🤣
@joebidensdentures4541
@joebidensdentures4541 2 жыл бұрын
I would bet everything I have on Peiper against you in a fight.
@kenm8376
@kenm8376 2 жыл бұрын
@@joebidensdentures4541 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@joebidensdentures4541
@joebidensdentures4541 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenm8376 Emojis are feminine, which only validates my original point. That point being Peiper was far more of a man than you.
@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods
@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods 2 жыл бұрын
@@joebidensdentures4541 Someone's insecure about their masculinity and has a violence kink. Obvious closet case is obvious.
@foxman1546
@foxman1546 2 жыл бұрын
The fire hoses weren't working hahaha. Nice one god.
@scoldingwhisper
@scoldingwhisper 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if they were broken or “broken”
@louisbarraud7853
@louisbarraud7853 2 жыл бұрын
@@scoldingwhisper fairly certain they were "broken" and not broken. And I full support that
@scoldingwhisper
@scoldingwhisper 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisbarraud7853 I imagine Jeremy Clarkson from top gear "OH NO!!!" "anyways.."
@robertchubb1518
@robertchubb1518 2 жыл бұрын
The hoses had been slashed
@drdr76
@drdr76 2 жыл бұрын
ok course, by design. well executed operation.
@firmaith
@firmaith 2 жыл бұрын
That doesn’t sound particularly brutal compared to his antics. I don’t know how he received such a light prison sentence.
@cosmiccowboy776
@cosmiccowboy776 2 жыл бұрын
These trials were not very popular in West Germany at the time, and the Americans and British were less interested in antagonizing the Germans than one might think, owing to the looming threat of the Soviets. A lot of these guys served short sentences because of that.
@firmaith
@firmaith 2 жыл бұрын
@@cosmiccowboy776 that makes sense. I remember reading about him at the bulge and I assumed he didn’t live long afterwards. Short lives to Nazis I say
@bellaadamowicz8380
@bellaadamowicz8380 2 жыл бұрын
@@firmaith Agree , short lives to Nazi murderers !
@paulleigh7792
@paulleigh7792 2 жыл бұрын
@@cosmiccowboy776 Also, many war criminals were sentenced by judges who had formerly held those same positions in the Nazi 3rd reich. Criminals judging criminals!
@ohauss
@ohauss 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulleigh7792 Given that the trial at issue here wasn't a German trial to begin with but a US military court, that's a rather misleading argument. It also was the Commander in Chief of the US European Command, Thomas Hardy, who commuted his sentence to life in prison.
@peterwallace4964
@peterwallace4964 2 жыл бұрын
The one good thing about his 30 years of escaping justice was that he would’ve been constantly looking over his shoulder..never quite knowing when they were coming for him
@clonmore819
@clonmore819 Жыл бұрын
He didn't escape justice. He served 12 years in prison. Learn your facts before spouting nonsense, please.
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
How did he escape justice? He willingly submitted himself to a trial, and was sentenced. Use your low brain cells next time.
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
@@clonmore819 If you think serving 12 years in prison for murdering hundreds of unarmed civilians, including children..... and countless unarmed POWs is "justice" then you possess the same IQ as Peiper does today. Zero.
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
@@Bahamut3525 Another idiot fanboy that thinks 12 years in prison is justice for the war criminal.
@Jklease342
@Jklease342 Жыл бұрын
@@Bahamut3525 yeah because 12 years is fair for murdering pow’s
@terryandrews7271
@terryandrews7271 2 жыл бұрын
When you commit atrocities like that you cannot blame it on being a soldier
@leonardolupini3484
@leonardolupini3484 2 жыл бұрын
What nonesense. He was not even there on the day of the massacre
@StewBurtTheRed
@StewBurtTheRed 2 жыл бұрын
No unexcusable offense to mankind should be swayed with "I was just following orders" ever again. True tyrants have no sense of humility, empathy or dignity.
@ithinkurf
@ithinkurf 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardolupini3484 In the modern context. He was not there on the day of the massacre but he was responsible for fostering the culture within his units that allowed his subordinates to believe that carrying out the massacre was the right course of action. He may not have been directly responsible but he certainly accountable for the actions of his subordinates.
@DrippyTheRaindrop
@DrippyTheRaindrop 2 жыл бұрын
What justification can be made for the "Allies" hanging an elderly German school teacher, who's only "crime" was to publish an offensive newspaper? (Julius Streicher)
@DrippyTheRaindrop
@DrippyTheRaindrop 2 жыл бұрын
Is burning alive whole cities of women and children (Tokyo, Dresden, Nagasaki, Hiroshima) an "atrocity"?
@buckshot6481
@buckshot6481 2 жыл бұрын
My Uncle George was a Master Sargent with the troops that discovered the horror at Malmady and he never forgot it.
@kyles9320
@kyles9320 2 жыл бұрын
How could you? The scope of how f**ked that is would be beyond comprehension at first.
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
And ?
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
Americans shot prisoners as well it war not a tea party
@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods
@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaynevanday142 And the Germans starved, enslaved, and gassed their POWs. Your point?
@Jamestrent9
@Jamestrent9 2 жыл бұрын
@@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods their are no winners in war!
@pruephillip1338
@pruephillip1338 2 жыл бұрын
Shooting and burning. This was Peiper's own modus operandi, visited upon him.
@billsinclair6515
@billsinclair6515 2 жыл бұрын
for historical accuracy, its worth mentioning that he was not present at, nor did he order the Malmedy murder of American soldiers. As their C.O. he accepted accountability for their actions at the post war trials and that incurred a penalty of death although it was later commuted to a jail sentence. But hey, lets go and live in France eh?
@rodon12001
@rodon12001 2 жыл бұрын
I guess, it could happened like that. BUT........ what about his documented actions on Eastern front? Should we also blame his subordinates? Also, it is just my personal opinion: executing over eighty American POW without A - direct order from your superiors, or B - without knowing for sure, that such action will be tolerated by your superiors, is hard to imagine in highly trained and disciplined SS troops. In ether case, he had blood on his hands. Again, if A or C don't stand, the Eastern front is.
@billsinclair6515
@billsinclair6515 2 жыл бұрын
@@rodon12001 I agree 100%, the man ought to have had the death penalty regardless. Hitler moved some of his best, battle hardened troops from the eastern front to fight in the Ardennes. By that point, the war with Russia was a total war, and the Russians fed literally millions of men into the grinder where they perished at a much higher ratio than the retreating Germans. So the life of captured enemy was almost worthless to them as they represented mouths to feed when they had little or no food themsleves. Bring that philosophy to the Western front and you unfortunatley get Malmedy
@josephstabile9154
@josephstabile9154 2 жыл бұрын
Just sayin', we do not know, FOR A TRUE, OBJECTIVE FACT, that he did not have a say in regard to Malmedy. And, if he in fact did not, it would almost be uncharacteristic of "Blowtorch" Peiper. "By your fruits shall ye be known"
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
There is no problem with living in France. He lived in France for 30+ years without problems. French & Germans don't hate each other. You watch too much history channel and fake history.
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
@@billsinclair6515 "the man ought to have had the death penalty regardless" So should countless Americans who committed worse crimes like directly executing POWs, civilians, etc.
@AngeloPerfili
@AngeloPerfili 2 жыл бұрын
How come I have never heard this story? Oh, that's right. I am watching the " the untold past" channel. Your subject matter and attention to detail are awesome...
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of it before
@andrewkappler5503
@andrewkappler5503 2 жыл бұрын
He also said "those damn engineers" When the American engineers solders blew up the last remaining bridge stopping his advance during battle of the bulge
@janbadinski7126
@janbadinski7126 2 жыл бұрын
You might enjoy 'the history guy' stories. He does obscure history because because he believes (I agree' that deserves to be remembered. He is also a history instructor on a college level. I find myself binge watching his stories more often than not.
@charliesmith4072
@charliesmith4072 2 жыл бұрын
U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy was a noisy and belligerent supporter of Peiper during and after his trial. We tend to forget that a number of U.S. Republican politicians, like McCarthy and Robert Taft were strong supporters of the Nazis after WW II.
@craigaust3306
@craigaust3306 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, this story has been known for quite some time.
@isopod666
@isopod666 2 жыл бұрын
Justice......... has been served
@psymons9133
@psymons9133 2 жыл бұрын
The saddest part of this story was that Peiper was not killed until the 70's...
@vansavant822
@vansavant822 2 жыл бұрын
That was not the body of Peiper that was found. Hoax.
@psymons9133
@psymons9133 2 жыл бұрын
@@vansavant822 Shame...
@josephinepeery6938
@josephinepeery6938 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
Same as many American war criminals like the one responsible for Mai Lai.
@psymons9133
@psymons9133 Жыл бұрын
@@Bahamut3525 Not EVEN similar
@kerryclark4967
@kerryclark4967 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy this channel! I had 3 uncle's in WW2 and only 1 came back home! He was a very kind and gentle man who fought bravely amongst many others to win that war!
@ashley-cz1sl
@ashley-cz1sl 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was there for D day. He helped liberate one of the concentration camps. I am not sure what one. He never really talked about what he saw during the war
@kerryclark4967
@kerryclark4967 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashley-cz1sl there were many veterans like that.. they couldn't talk about their experiences and many had nightmares the rest of their lives
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Жыл бұрын
​@@ashley-cz1sl my dad never talked about Buchenwald, until I asked. we talked once only. he did talk about the rest of the war freely. from funny, to sickening, to amazed he survived. 6th Armored Division!
@nickmerino9440
@nickmerino9440 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer do you remember any of his stories?
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Жыл бұрын
@@nickmerino9440 Yes, more than a few. Some funny some are horrific. For example a soldier being killed when a 20mm round hit him, in the chest and exploded Pissed my dad off. hit the gun with the 75mm.. Funny one now Dad " liberated " a bicycle. He was riding down the road, unshaven dirty, greasy uniform. Guess who was coming the other way? None other than General Patton! Asked dad a few questions, snapped a salute and said "Carry on"
@kenmayfield3739
@kenmayfield3739 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought it astonishing that Peiper’s original sentence was commuted. That wasn’t justice, it was a travesty.
@novadhd
@novadhd 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Brits handled it. They did that with a lot of the nazi's and were too lenient. Americans would have handled it differently.
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
It was justice you are just a sheep
@sirgalahad1376
@sirgalahad1376 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaynevanday142 I notice you posting on just about every comment. So are you a Nazi apologist? Care to explain yourself?
@h.db.9684
@h.db.9684 2 жыл бұрын
@@novadhd No they wouldn’t have. The US lacked the stomach to do anything. The Soviets on the other hand would’ve executed him.
@carlosferreira5709
@carlosferreira5709 2 жыл бұрын
A feature of the emerging Cold War.
@vangestelwijnen
@vangestelwijnen 2 жыл бұрын
With some delay the verdict was picked up by the French. Excellent.
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
Fool
@buzz2393
@buzz2393 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaynevanday142 u lost the war, now shut up
@Borkendeneshk
@Borkendeneshk 2 жыл бұрын
True. At least the French did something for WWII finally!
@lscher2461
@lscher2461 2 жыл бұрын
@@buzz2393 Yeh the Krauts lost the war but not thanks to the frenchies or brits. Sooo no much reason to be bragging...
@yusufaden2432
@yusufaden2432 2 жыл бұрын
The French killed a million Algerians. Ten years before his death they passed an amnesty for all their killers. So maybe those French anti fascists should’ve started with their own bothers rather than a old man who beat them fair and square
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 2 жыл бұрын
Peiper was identified by a former resistance member (managing a hardware store in a village in the area) who noticed his German accent and asked him about France occupation. Peiper was not involved in France occupation but he didn't try to hide his name so that he was very soon confirmed who he was and his reputation. For the rest, the case is still controversial since it's not clear if he was really attacked and if the body found in his burnt house was Peiper's body. This has been an assumption as there were no DNA comparison possible. Another version of the story is that the attack against the house has been staged by Peiper himself and that he would then have escaped through a hole in the barbed wire, joining a nearby road (because it's the path that a sniffer dog followed) where a car would have waited for him. Then he would have vanished somewhere (in South America ...?) Anyway, in May 1977, experts concluded that indeed nothing proved that the body found was Peiper's corpse but that nothing proved the opposite either. So the case was closed. I'm afraid we'll never know.
@bad74maverick1
@bad74maverick1 2 жыл бұрын
There was no need for him to go to south America either. He served his sentence and was released and went on about his life.
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 2 жыл бұрын
@@bad74maverick1 You are right: legally speaking he was free to go wherever he wanted but he might have felt unsafe for some reason and prefered to escape and just vanish. Who knows? I just wanted to highlight the fact that, contrary to what is being said in the video, it remains unclear: being attacked by former partisans although he was not involved in crimes in France (on the Russian front probably, in Italy and Belgium for sure but he was unknown in France) would have been hardly plausible in the 50s but this happened in 1976 after having moved to this little village in 1972! I don't claim that it's not what happened but it doesn't seem to make sense and that's why it's still so controversial. Now in 2022, we can note that nobody ever spoke about that night: curious. I think we'll never know.
@bad74maverick1
@bad74maverick1 2 жыл бұрын
@@patolt1628 I agree the scenario is a bit suspicious, but then again so many things after the war that happened to ex SS officers who had similar fates are too.
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 2 жыл бұрын
@@bad74maverick1 Yes, probably.
@bluerock4456
@bluerock4456 2 жыл бұрын
Dental records & his SS tattoo did the ID.
@trj1442
@trj1442 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent episode. Thankyou.
@ericmartin9232
@ericmartin9232 2 жыл бұрын
His unit was known as the kampfgruppe Blowtorch. Seems like what goes around comes around....
@MrProsat
@MrProsat 2 жыл бұрын
fitting end.
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I think he faked his own death. DNA check wasn't that developed then.
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrProsat not really
@troysweeney8432
@troysweeney8432 2 жыл бұрын
What would you call the Americans who burned whole cites down killing millions of civilians by fire? Piper at most killed 100s maybe 1000s but not even close to those flying bombers.
@Yiannis2112
@Yiannis2112 2 жыл бұрын
@@troysweeney8432 I'd call it "you started this, I say when it stops"
@Russellsagecline
@Russellsagecline 2 жыл бұрын
He could've been remembered for being a brilliant tactician, but chose "RUTHLESS, FELCHING MURDERER," instead.
@MrProsat
@MrProsat 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tactician? Aside from rescuing a German unit surrounded in Russia, what exactly was brilliant about his military career? Unless you count shooting/killing unarmed civilians in several countries.
@Russellsagecline
@Russellsagecline 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrProsat You're right. I rode the Short Bus. Sorry.... apologies.
@TheMetalMachineMusic
@TheMetalMachineMusic 2 жыл бұрын
He liked felching? Where did you hear this?
@leonardolupini3484
@leonardolupini3484 2 жыл бұрын
Murderer? I think not.... While in Italy, a large group of Jews were released to Peiper, and to the horror of his superiors, he set them all free.... Most of the Jews spoke afterwards of the Standartenfuhrer's kindness, including a rabbi....
@scottjimenez653
@scottjimenez653 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardolupini3484: Even if he freed some prisoners, the fact that he murdered others makes him a murderer. He also failed a breakthrough during the Bulge. In short, he was a failure. Yet, in interviews after the war, he remained arrogant: a typical SS ruthless scum worthy of death. Care to counter that?
@martinoconnor4314
@martinoconnor4314 2 жыл бұрын
I found a book in a Charity shop called The Devils Adjutant which was about Joachim Peiper's life and death if anyone is interested in further reading on this man. I can't remember the name of the author but I'm sure google can help.
@raymondcottle5554
@raymondcottle5554 2 жыл бұрын
Have you heard the sayings “what goes around, comes around”, “you reap what you sow” and “ live by the sword, die by the sword. So Justice is then served.
@TheBucketSkill
@TheBucketSkill 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmy7622 God isn't even real, which is why it needed to be done.
@lloydwalters4252
@lloydwalters4252 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't justice, you fool
@wtfsalommy3250
@wtfsalommy3250 2 жыл бұрын
live by the sword...
@markpaul8178
@markpaul8178 2 жыл бұрын
Right on.
@pagodebregaeforro2803
@pagodebregaeforro2803 2 жыл бұрын
It took too long, unfortunately.
@harryeisermann2784
@harryeisermann2784 2 жыл бұрын
he was freed by criminal court, so and peace was,signed 30 years earlier, hmmmm strange
@harryeisermann2784
@harryeisermann2784 2 жыл бұрын
why not Commit Churchill not as,a criminal or that idiot Patton, or Montgomery, HE made many mistakes , thousands died for nothing? winners JUSTICE
@jorgefajardo2213
@jorgefajardo2213 2 жыл бұрын
@@harryeisermann2784 Patton never got unarmed man and civilians executed in cold blood.
@jamespanciotti3960
@jamespanciotti3960 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad that he finally received justice for his crimes. It is very fitting that the burner of so many villages would die in a house fire. He witnessed and caused so much death and never expressed regret over any of it. This is the first I had heard about his life and death after he was not convicted for war crimes. Thank you for your research and work on this video.
@SanitysVoid
@SanitysVoid 2 жыл бұрын
The Courts decided his justice. A group of un authorized rabble who had no standing to murder anyone murdered him. Probably a group of young communits who let others fight the real mans war while they printed propagnda in their mother's basement.
@daviddalton9214
@daviddalton9214 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanitysVoid We could ask what the US army troops at Malmedy thought about this great big soldier. Oh, wait. Can’t do that.
@SanitysVoid
@SanitysVoid 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddalton9214 Or we cold ask what U.S. Colonels did in the same situation. They were not about to let some POW's slow up their advances either. Ever personally know any WWII vets? The stories they told were no BS. This was related to me. The CO told two GIs to march two German POW's down the road and turn them over to the MP's at the check point and be back in 5 minutes as the unit was moving out. They were back as ordered. The March was 2 miles down the road then 2 miles back. That's 4 miles. Know anyone that can run that in 5 mintes? Guess what became of the two Germans..... figure it out.
@derricklarsen2919
@derricklarsen2919 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanitysVoid probably best way to handle war crimes is to try the top leadership but with minor guys like.peiper best to kill them covertly or use the Israelis. You get lawyers involved they start digging up too much shit to make a name for themselves.
@alexlanning712
@alexlanning712 2 жыл бұрын
not a grain of contrition
@stephenwhitworth3151
@stephenwhitworth3151 2 жыл бұрын
Pardon me if I fail to shed any tears that a man who fully and proudly participated in the outrageous crimes of the hate-fueled, racist Nazi regime was at last given justice by the Avengers long after his appropriate original death sentence had stupidly been commuted.
@dm-gq5uj
@dm-gq5uj 2 жыл бұрын
He finally found out what it was like to be trapped in a burning building, overcome by smoke and heat. He cruelly sentenced others to that fate, so it was poetic justice - and far more fitting than hanging.
@franciefernandesjoseph6776
@franciefernandesjoseph6776 Жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely stupid n against the humanity
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
Comment based on pure disinformation and lack of objectivity.
@cjryan88
@cjryan88 Жыл бұрын
and what about the crimes committed by the russians ,they got away with them
@millertime4993
@millertime4993 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing he died in such a brutal way really warms my heart.
@kholeka8475
@kholeka8475 2 жыл бұрын
@DuckyDuck Stalin lives in our hearts forever.
@gregoryaparker
@gregoryaparker 2 жыл бұрын
It makes me want to have a cup of hot chocolate ;)
@adriannarobeson4758
@adriannarobeson4758 8 ай бұрын
Same here , coward POS
@thomasweatherford5125
@thomasweatherford5125 2 жыл бұрын
He should’ve stood trial at Nuremberg with the other higher ups. I don’t have any I’ll feelings for people of his ilk getting justice which comes in all forms.
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
He did do some research
@charliesmith4072
@charliesmith4072 2 жыл бұрын
There were many layers of trials. What you are thinking of is the trial of the 26 top Nazis who started the war. As that was winding down Ben Ferencz (who is still alive) was organizing the Einsatzgruppen trial, also in Nurnberg. Peiper was tried by the Americans later with the men who did the actual killing at Malmedy. A number of right wing U.S. politicians, led by Senator Joseph McCarthy, created so much pressure that the American governor of West Germany reduced his sentence. There were also layers of trials in Poland, the USSR, and the civil courts of West Germany. I believe that one of these trials ended last year in Germany.
@alexbowman7582
@alexbowman7582 2 жыл бұрын
American officer Chester Nimitz famously said if we had lost I'd have been on a war crimes trial and sent a letter to the Nuremberg war crimes trial of Doenitz, accused of waging unrestricted naval warfare, that he had done so too. British RAF officers often lied to pilots telling them they were bombing industry when their targets were German housing surely a war crime? If you want crimes worse than the Germans look to British Indian rule where an estimated 60 million were murdered, mostly starved with around 10 million killed in the few years following the 1857 uprising and 2 to 4 million starved in 1943 in Bengal after we took their rice crops. Britain also killed more woman and children in concentration camps than adults killed in battles during the Boer war. Britain also starved 1 or 2 million Irish whilst exporting food from Ireland under PM Pitt. We also managed the successful complete genocide of the Aboriginal Tasmanians. As recently as the 50's and 60's we were putting 100's of 1,000's of Kenyan people in camps whilst fight the Mau Mau (go go in Kenyan) rebellion and hung 8 thousand Kenyan men in less than a decade.
@billlansdell7225
@billlansdell7225 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexbowman7582 Practically nothing you wrote there is true. I am not saying this for your benefit, because you are obviously left wing ideologue and historical revisionist. But it should be stated for anybody who mistakenly thinks you know what you are talking about.
@tamer1773
@tamer1773 2 жыл бұрын
Despite his skills as a soldier Peiper was really nothing more than a vicious murderer who killed helpless civilians and unarmed POW's and got away with it. I'm glad he was such a lousy shot that he missed hitting any of the attackers. I was always amazed that the French government allowed him to live there. Unless they knew he'd be taken care of 30 years after the war. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
@bilbobaggins2784
@bilbobaggins2784 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment!
@debeeriz
@debeeriz 2 жыл бұрын
after the war britain became frances enemy and germany its best friend, so l am not amazed at all, but considering the allies bombing did more damage and killed more french than the germans did, you cant really blame them
@bilbobaggins2784
@bilbobaggins2784 2 жыл бұрын
@@debeeriz I don't agree that the response to a genocidal nation waging total war on the world has to be proportionate. The Battle of the Bulge six months after D day and less than that before Nazi Germany collapses, the defence of Berlin, not to mention the Japanese war to the end mean that if the Allies had stopped to make these dainty considerations we'd still be at it. Nazi Germany democratically and enthusiastically pulled fpr this war and sent their men to kill and be killed in it. You can't whine now about the Allies for taking up Nazi Germany and thrashing those genocidal losers.
@debeeriz
@debeeriz 2 жыл бұрын
@@bilbobaggins2784 when you compare what the japanese and russians did, l think the germans were hard done by when it came to war crimes prosecutions, and even amongst the germans if a nazi had skills to offer he was not prosecuted as a war criminal
@bilbobaggins2784
@bilbobaggins2784 2 жыл бұрын
@@debeeriz Nazism and Japanese imperialism had to be discredited through humiliation, prosecution and executions. The Allies did a fantastic job as evidenced by the thriving democracies that are modern Germany and Japan. (The Soviet Union was with the Allies against the Axis so that doesn't apply). As to the individual toll of regular Germans and Japanese, both countries were enthusiastic supporters of their regimes; Hitler was elected democratically. And both countries fought to the bitter end even after the war was all but lost lost. It was in those final weeks of suicidal last stands that they incurred their big civilian casualties (e.g. Dresden, February 1945; Hiroshima and Nagasaki, August, 1945). No criminal conspiracy is ever prosecuted to the last man. The point is to punish the leadership, the most egregious criminals, publicly humiliate and discredit them and set the historical record straight. Ditto with the January 6, 2021 insurrection. Sure, some German rocket scientists and others were given a pass in order to help the US in the Cold War but your defence of the Nazi and Japanese losers is not motivated by a desire for perfect justice, is it now?
@borisshenker3722
@borisshenker3722 2 жыл бұрын
Poetic justice.
@thomaspavelko9412
@thomaspavelko9412 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of these I kind of wonder why after the Soviet Union collapsed why not one KGB or GRU interrogator was ever charged with any crimes against humanity or any of the commanders or guards of the forced labor camps?
@stefanodadamo6809
@stefanodadamo6809 2 жыл бұрын
Because no foreign power occupied the former Soviet Union and prosecuted them.
@thomaspavelko9412
@thomaspavelko9412 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefanodadamo6809 very true..still though alot of those communist left the Soviet Union with what they could steal and bought million dollar mansions all over the EU.. Basically they all got a free pass and funny enough no-one wants to talk about it
@simony2801
@simony2801 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspavelko9412 I think their escape and wealth is all in your head. The Soviet Union was a failed economic project,
@GazB85
@GazB85 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspavelko9412 That never happened at all! The oligarchs stayed in Russia!
@bluerock4456
@bluerock4456 2 жыл бұрын
@@GazB85 tell that to Roman Abramovich, then!
@Afro3461
@Afro3461 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful example of ‘Poetic Justice’!
@panhead55
@panhead55 Жыл бұрын
How so? Seems like cold blood murder to me. The man committed crimes long ago and was tried by a jury and sentenced.
@ShamileII
@ShamileII 2 жыл бұрын
Odd that he would retire in France....maybe not the best of ideas . He actually worked for Porsche in their factory parts dept. I remember a story from the early racing days where it was mentioned that "Peiper was a great deal of help" .....wait, that Peiper...the Oberststurmbanfuhrer?? lol
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Жыл бұрын
And then was kicked out of Porsche
@donavinvanwyk9033
@donavinvanwyk9033 2 жыл бұрын
There is a book written by Leo Kessler about the life and death of Joachim Peiper , it is an interesting read and looks into what occurred during those last days of the war and what happened when Peiper and those men of the SS that were captured and stood trial after the war. The book is called " SS Peiper " by Leo Kessler
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 2 жыл бұрын
Lies no doubt
@JoeFlation
@JoeFlation 2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeLovesRose
@donavinvanwyk9033
@donavinvanwyk9033 2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeLovesRose well seeing as history is all about doing your own research & looking at the facts that were available at the time & then making your own conclusions , I wouldn't know if they lies or not in your opinion
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 2 жыл бұрын
@@donavinvanwyk9033 I have far more evidence in my corner
@donavinvanwyk9033
@donavinvanwyk9033 2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeLovesRose If you have evidence that the author of the book did not have access to then good for you. All I said was that it was intetesting book to read and I did not express a view either way
@DeusVoltage
@DeusVoltage 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on finally making a video where the title isn't clickbait.
@mikekennedy4572
@mikekennedy4572 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad that he was allowed to live as long as he did after the war, considering the atrocities that happened under his command. Thank you to the Avengers who took him out.
@davidcarter1013
@davidcarter1013 2 жыл бұрын
HEROES
@d.owczarzak6888
@d.owczarzak6888 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed !
@fukitall80
@fukitall80 2 жыл бұрын
Heroes? More like bastard communist hypocrites
@mariafrost1762
@mariafrost1762 2 жыл бұрын
Clueless twerp!!
@juanpaz5124
@juanpaz5124 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't call them heroes, they are murderers nonetheless.
@joebrunette5594
@joebrunette5594 2 жыл бұрын
The only downside is that he got to live so long after his crimes.
@RT-mm8rq
@RT-mm8rq 2 жыл бұрын
1 million thumbs up.
@Armyjay
@Armyjay 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent video, cheers.
@garyfinn8772
@garyfinn8772 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have minded him behind me in a fight
@100forks
@100forks 2 жыл бұрын
None of the thousands that he tortured and killed got to live an extra 30 years like he did. But his day of reckoning is still to come; when the Lord returns.
@DaveGIS123
@DaveGIS123 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see his face on the Day of Judgement when he realizes his judge is Jesus, the King of the Jews!
@100forks
@100forks 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaveGIS123 Great reply
@mariafrost1762
@mariafrost1762 2 жыл бұрын
And the prize for the stupidest post here goes to ..............YOU!! Clearly way out of your depth on this topic.
@typetersen8809
@typetersen8809 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariafrost1762 WHY?
@TCW838
@TCW838 2 жыл бұрын
I do have sympathy that the poor dogs got caught up in this. They didn't do anything.
@alfredagain
@alfredagain 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, why do these Nazi scum always have dogs? Just like Hitler and his mistress. I love dogs and I shudder to think of them in the bloody hands of those murderers. I've seen photos of dogs being cuddled by the likes of Sepp Dietrich, Isle Koch, and even Julius Streicher.
@motorrebell
@motorrebell 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfredagain Yes very weird , Hitler was a Vegetarian - avoided Alcohol too .
@tomg5187
@tomg5187 2 жыл бұрын
Harrowing story, thank you sir! 🙏
@salus1231
@salus1231 2 жыл бұрын
The original sentence of hanging should have been carried out. There was little mitigating reason for a prison sentence and none at all for it to be reduced. There really were SS and other Nazis hung for less. This Peiper case is puzzling when you look at it.
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
Americans should have turned Peiper and his whole unit over to the Soviets. They were just as subhuman as the Nazis, so Peiper and his scumbag subordinates would have crapped their pants when they learned they were being shipped off to the Soviets. Probably would have started hanging themselves in their cells within minutes.
@pauldazar3348
@pauldazar3348 2 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the dog...
@robertsansone1680
@robertsansone1680 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I feel more sorry for the cockroaches that were burned than for Pieper.
@robertsansone1680
@robertsansone1680 2 жыл бұрын
Peiper
@ileanaacacostaacosta1813
@ileanaacacostaacosta1813 Жыл бұрын
The dogs were found by the police far from the house and his family got them
@greatunwashed1856
@greatunwashed1856 2 жыл бұрын
Settling in what used to be occupied France? More front than “arrods “ fine example of Hubris.
@joecaner
@joecaner 2 жыл бұрын
"I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal." - Curtis LeMay
@earlfruitbat9032
@earlfruitbat9032 2 жыл бұрын
Relevance?
@joecaner
@joecaner 2 жыл бұрын
@@earlfruitbat9032 I would think it obvious. War crimes are the rule, not the exception during hostilities, and there are perps among all the belligerents, but only those on the losing side are punished, never the victors.
@tomfrazier1103
@tomfrazier1103 2 жыл бұрын
Curtis LeMay has been somewhat punished by being held in ignominy by many other Americans, as well as Japanese civilians.
@joecaner
@joecaner 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomfrazier1103 I've heard tell that Dick Cheney is held in ignominy by many Americans, as well as Iraqi civilians. Is he also being somewhat punished?
@drdr76
@drdr76 2 жыл бұрын
@@joecaner War crimes may be the rule, but in the case of WWII, there were many more committed by the Nazis than others. To the victor go the spoils. It has always been that way--kinda the definition of winning.
@ducomaritiem7160
@ducomaritiem7160 2 жыл бұрын
Most of your footage of Peiper seems correct, except for those at the "Schwimmenwagen" ( 7:46) . That's not Joachim Peiper, but their unit's photographer. My source: After the Battle magazine , number about the battle of the Bulge.
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 2 жыл бұрын
The Soldier in Schwim is also wearing Oberscharfuhrer NCO rank further making sure it isnt Peiper
@kjragg1099
@kjragg1099 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot of people seem to think this is Peiper when it looks nothing like him.
@nickgoodwood4812
@nickgoodwood4812 2 жыл бұрын
That's right.
@Pugiron
@Pugiron 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, none of his surviving men were with him in the fire.
@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods
@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods 2 жыл бұрын
Cremated alive - karma has a dank sense of humour.
@rayjames6096
@rayjames6096 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like justice was belatedly served but eventually served with style.
@Csmallo
@Csmallo 2 жыл бұрын
If by "executed" you mean "murdered by terrorists", then you are correct.
@kayvan671
@kayvan671 2 жыл бұрын
No, the original title is better.
@vchk5330
@vchk5330 2 жыл бұрын
yeah based
@racertian
@racertian 2 жыл бұрын
He should have swung from a short length rope. Escaped justice by sulking like a pitiful child during his trial and claiming he was bullied whilst a prisoner. Take a look at the start of the film when the murderous Nazis are walking round the yard. One of them can clearly be seen strolling as if he has not got a care in the world, hands in pocket, smirking and laughing...and who is it ...the monstrous Pieper. The worthless individual, not a man, who accompanied his close friend Himmler on tours of concentration camps, the coward who participated in atrocities that saw women and children rounded up and executed, who committed numerous war crimes and he escaped the noose by claiming he had been 'bullied'.....'murdered by terrorists' ? ... A suggestion as worthless as the evil maniac himself.
@equarg
@equarg 2 жыл бұрын
🤔………….. Meh, I will go with executed. Hard to feel sorry for an ex SS officer who ordered the brutal death of innocents and POW’s. Heck, today I learned about the Hungover Austrian hanging pole method of execution. Much different then the long (or short) drop method of execution most know about. Apparently a man is marched to a 9 foot pole, has legs tied to a rope connected to a pulley(and one executer on the ground waits to yank on hard), and a strap put under his arm pits to string up the pole. He is poised up the pole suddenly, where a 2nd execute puts a noose connected to a hook around his neck……and then holds the condemned head points down physically. Then the executer below yanks the foot restraints dropping the condemned down, tightening the noose. The 2nd executer then physically breaks the commends neck as the noose pulls. Saw a post WW2 video of it. It was brutal……but obviously quick. Very hands on. I felt sorry for the executer, really hands on.
@h.db.9684
@h.db.9684 2 жыл бұрын
“I was mistreated during my time as a prisoner, therefore my charges should be dismissed.” - SS soldier who was literally on trial for executing prisoners and innocent civilians. The balls on that man, and the pathetic, feeble judges that agreed with him. Pathetic.
@thepub245
@thepub245 2 жыл бұрын
The Americans screwed up. The Allies, with the grumbling, half hearted agreement of the Soviets, chose to maintain the higher moral ground to punish those that were directly involved in the machinations of mass murder and war crimes, by taking the decision to deal with them in a court of law, which I think was right. The fact that Peiper and his men were subjected to torture and degrading treatment weakened the case against them. As far as I know, Peiper was only bought to trial for the Malmedy incident and the evidence against him was not strong. Also, attitudes toward previous enemies changed as the west turned toward the new enemy in the Soviets and the West German public had to be bought onside. Peiper must have been a bitter man at being on the losing side in the war and possibly had a bit of a death wish. Why else would he expose himself to scrutiny outside of Germany when so many of his peers had long and comfortable lives within?
@kylegellner8687
@kylegellner8687 2 жыл бұрын
This man fits the classic definition of chutzah: Murdering your parents, and then begging for mercy because you're an orphan.
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
@@thepub245 Because he was bitter with Germany, said so himself. He didn't recognise his country, which had become too American and business-minded. I believe there is also a comment about the SS, where he says that most of his comrades completely abandoned the ideals and are basically bourgeois now.
@johnf8064
@johnf8064 2 жыл бұрын
When they found his corpse, it had shrunk too the size of a toddler. An anomaly of the fire.
@Izumi-sp6fp
@Izumi-sp6fp 2 жыл бұрын
Probably all that was left was the torso. Everything else being consumed. That could be mistaken for having "shrunk" in size.
@charlesshields305
@charlesshields305 2 жыл бұрын
So his watch was near the shrunken remains of a corpse, and that makes it Peiper ? No, like the supposed corpse of Hitler outside the Berlin bunker, once visible proof of identity is erased in fires, what you have is escape strategies by mass murderers via yet more killing then burning, followed by smooth passage to fascist-admiring South American states and lives lived wealthily and surreptitiously behind the facade of 'known' death and the world moving on. But if Peiper really got burned to a cinder in France, then he got a deservedly painful comeuppance.
@bluerock4456
@bluerock4456 2 жыл бұрын
@@Izumi-sp6fp teeth do not burn.
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
@@bluerock4456 So..... you're saying his teeth were larger than the average toddler is tall? If he had 2.5 foot tall teeth in his 5 foot 7 body, he was a freak.
@Namtov
@Namtov 2 жыл бұрын
He had Command responsibility of the malmedy massacre. He had left the area when the incident happened.
@carlhicksjr8401
@carlhicksjr8401 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter. He was the commander and later testimony stated clearly that he obliquely gave the order... Something to effect of "We don't have the time or supplies to handle these prisoners, Hauptsturmfuhrer. Deal with it." Then he lost the war, which tripled his chances for getting tried as a war criminal. In the end, the sons'a bitch deserved to die on fire.
@samuelgordino
@samuelgordino 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlhicksjr8401 More a case my man, my responsibility. He had nothing to do with the massacre but were his man's so he assumed the responsibility. I'm taking abou the Malmedy massacre only, the other war crimes are a different matter.
@scrat4379
@scrat4379 2 жыл бұрын
@Sam Gordino, he was SS though wasn't he? One isn't entitled to discretion when you're a member of the SS..he was a committed Nazi.
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
Read the trial testimony. Even Peiper did not dispute the testimony of survivors and his own troops that was on the scene and had simply moved less than 1 km down the road when the shooting started.
@Namtov
@Namtov Жыл бұрын
@@Vevay1961 And ? Any conflict in my statement and your statement ?
@lulurosenkrantz3720
@lulurosenkrantz3720 2 жыл бұрын
Peiper was not even present during the Malmady massacre . An American officer spoke in his defence during his trial . The Malmady massacre was allegedly perpetrated by young recruits acting outside orders .
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter. He was the leader. And he killed many innocent people.
@jefesalsero
@jefesalsero 2 жыл бұрын
During the summer of 1976, while visiting my grandparents in California, my WW2 U.S. Army veteran grandfather (who served in the ETO) told me about the news of Pieper's death in France. Grandpa said that he knew someone who had spoken with Peiper in France after the war and that this person said that Pieper denied responsibility for the Malmedy Massacre and blamed it on Sepp Dietrich. Seems logical that Pieper would deny his crimes.
@alfredagain
@alfredagain 2 жыл бұрын
The Nazis were notorious cowards. I once read that Sepp Dietrich told Peiper, regarding this operation, to "not waste too much time with prisoners". Peiper certainly took him at his word, the murdering bastards.
@philiplubduck6107
@philiplubduck6107 2 жыл бұрын
Coward isn’t the word I’d use, things were far different back then and once you were a soldier you didn’t have much choice but to listen to your commander. Whether you a Nazi or Soviet you would be shot if you fled. Even the USA killed those who fled early on. Now officers and such had some. Voice yet still not choice as they would likely be killed if they decided to oppose the ideals of Nazi Germany. Though they might have been able to “retire”. Oddly the Nazis aren’t the only evil people. Seemed many of the towns and countries put up little to no fight and just allowed Germany to remove their Jewish population. Many people of the time hated Jews worldwide including the USA. A large number did not agree with killing Jews but many still would rather never deal with one in their town. That’s one reason why many just let Nazis come in and take control.
@alfredagain
@alfredagain 2 жыл бұрын
@@philiplubduck6107 I agree, but what gets me is the bastards who fled to places like South America. If they were true soldiers they would have surrendered their fate to the victorious powers instead of becoming international fugitives. I realize this exonerates Peiper, but it doesn't ease my hatred of him. As for cowardice, it goes right down to the average citizen too. I once saw footage of an interview, in a lovely outdoor setting, with a woman who'd used the Gestapo to deal with a neighbour she didn't like. The questions started to get her jittery (what did she expect?) and she called the interview off by stating that it was starting to rain!
@philiplubduck6107
@philiplubduck6107 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfredagain wow to deal with a bad neighbor to have that much torture and for what some land dispute at most! I imagine anyone of enough mind to take gold and other valuables would have seen the war would soon be lost and what they could to survive and likely survive in decent luxury. Honestly if the country you serve losses and dies I wouldn’t say turning yourself in would be brave or smart. Just suicide. Even smart/greedy ally soldiers stole items from many Nazi strongholds and some citizens. I think South America idolized Nazis and somehow was always allowed to do so without any pushback. Making life pretty good and open without fear of people knowing what your did. Though some Nazis were assassinated by spec ops of various countries.
@drdr76
@drdr76 2 жыл бұрын
It's no different today. We have politicians who deny what we have actual recordings of them saying/doing. We have many convicted murderers who do the same; deny, deny, deny.
@paulmcwilliams1709
@paulmcwilliams1709 2 жыл бұрын
Joachim Peiper was lucky he was allowed to live as long as he did, and some people can't forget what he did, and what he believed in.
@paulmcwilliams1709
@paulmcwilliams1709 2 жыл бұрын
Those people that were alive during the War couldn't forget what he and the SS did to the American soldiers at Malmady, and the citizens of France, so I don't blame them for wanting him gone.
@alfredagain
@alfredagain 2 жыл бұрын
These days he'd have his face blanked out, be given a new identity, and be given all the rest of the treatment that is a murdering thug's rights just in case some vigilantes did what the courts failed to do - which is what happened.
@leonardolupini3484
@leonardolupini3484 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulmcwilliams1709 Peiper was miles away on the day of the massacre.
@paulmcwilliams1709
@paulmcwilliams1709 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardolupini3484 He was an SS soldier, who believed in Hitler and everything that Hitler believed in. The SS were well known for killing innocent civilians and POW's. So, I think that Peiper wasn't by no means a choir boy! He did as he was ordered just like the other SS men did.
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardolupini3484 ...HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THAT?! ANYWAY, AN OFFICER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF THE PEOPLE UNDER HIS COMMAND!!! PEIPER WAS NOT BLAMELESS- AND YOU DAM WELL KNOW IT!!!
@septimiusseverus343
@septimiusseverus343 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't execution, it was murder, plain and simple.
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
I read the entire story (in French) and what's fascinating is that he lived in peace in France for 20+ years. French locals had no problems with the man. What caused the killing was a radical communist (not from the region) found out where Peiper was living, organized a crew, and killed him. I believe it was a trio of three unemployed associal communists from another region. So it's not like normal French people all of the sudden killed him.
@dougrobbins5367
@dougrobbins5367 Жыл бұрын
He got away with too much for too long. Ridiculous for him to live in peace in France, an obscenity.
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
@@dougrobbins5367 So shouldn't have many British like Arthur Harris and countless others.
@dougrobbins5367
@dougrobbins5367 Жыл бұрын
@@Bahamut3525 I disagree. The war had to be won, by any means necessary, because if the axis won then half the world would have been murdered and most of the rest would have been enslaved. If it was necessary to kill civilians to win, then that was the only thing to do. Seems like common sense.
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
@@dougrobbins5367 1. "The war had to be won, by any means necessary". Don't you see the hypocrisy and bias in your views? You basically condone "any means necessary to win" as long as its your side. But that's exactly what you criticise the Germans for doing. 2. " if the axis won then half the world would have been murdered and most of the rest would have been enslaved". Hilarious and Hollywood like view of history." 3. " If it was necessary to kill civilians to win, then that was the only thing to do. Seems like common sense." Seems like a very biased and incongruent point of view. Rules for thee and not for me.
@keithehredt753
@keithehredt753 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT TOPIC, GREAT COVERAGE. WELL DONE
@lei3746
@lei3746 2 жыл бұрын
Good Riddance
@NiallMS1
@NiallMS1 2 жыл бұрын
Deffo, and a just end as well!!
@DartmanX
@DartmanX 2 жыл бұрын
Always love a feel good story.
@hooper4581
@hooper4581 2 жыл бұрын
I got that warm fuzzy feeling myself
@charlesfaure1189
@charlesfaure1189 2 жыл бұрын
The thought of this piece of dung getting what was coming to him warms my heart. "I do not understand why people keep dragging up history" --said the war criminal.
@jussim.konttinen4981
@jussim.konttinen4981 2 жыл бұрын
As if Molotov was not
@frasierkrane3593
@frasierkrane3593 2 жыл бұрын
these people fought for their countries and suffered for their own reasons, just as you project yours.
@matthewdavid6134
@matthewdavid6134 2 жыл бұрын
@@frasierkrane3593 There is a difference between defending ones country and killing civilians or capture prisoners in a foreign country
@lscher2461
@lscher2461 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdavid6134 What you describe sounds exacly what the USA and nato have been doing the last 20 years... and these are modern times, supposed to be diferent from the savage 30s and 40s. How many times did USA ignore sovereignities and invaded middle eastern countries? Ask the families of the 700.000 civilians killed there if the think the USA is good or bad, you might have a surprise!
@matthewdavid6134
@matthewdavid6134 2 жыл бұрын
@@lscher2461 can’t defend your side so you have insult another is that it? Cause when did I say I supported nato invasions? That’s a tired and old tactic that shows you know your position is indefensible, just admit you’re a biased Nazi so we can all go on.
@bradleybriscoe2608
@bradleybriscoe2608 2 жыл бұрын
An extremely interesting, well researched and non biased book about Peiper entitled 'Hitler's Warrior: The Life and Wars of SS Colonel Jochen Peiper' was written by author Danny S. Parker in 2014. A highly recommended read for any WWII enthusiast.
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
Peiper was a brave soldier
@batrachian149
@batrachian149 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaynevanday142 He was a Nazi, and now he's a dead Nazi. The only good kind.
@johnstevens3048
@johnstevens3048 2 жыл бұрын
@@lei3746 didn't just shoot civilians an pows though did he? Although you may not like to admit it, these nazi fanatics made some of the best soldiers the world has ever seen to this day
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaynevanday142 What a brave soldier shooting civilians so courageous. Give me a break
@jaybuck5818
@jaybuck5818 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaynevanday142 Not brave enough to stand by the atrocities he committed.
@patdalager2598
@patdalager2598 2 жыл бұрын
Well it's hard to fight a fire with firearms. Couldn't have happened to a better person.
@aidjunkie5335
@aidjunkie5335 2 жыл бұрын
Joachim Peiper features in the brilliant novel The Environmental Gardeners. Well worth a read!
@dada-od9ju
@dada-od9ju Жыл бұрын
Who is author?
@aylmer666
@aylmer666 2 жыл бұрын
Peiper was sort-of the basis of Robert Shaw’s character in BATTLE OF THE BULGE and Peter O’Toole’s in NIGHT OF THE GENERALS, and damn does he really really closely resemble Michael Fassbender. Maybe Fassbender ought to play him in a biopic?
@raoulgrimm9974
@raoulgrimm9974 2 жыл бұрын
i love happy endings
@conceptalfa
@conceptalfa 2 жыл бұрын
Great documentary!!! 👍 👍 👍
@jaythekid4809
@jaythekid4809 Жыл бұрын
From what it sounds like, he got off easy.
@themerchantofengland
@themerchantofengland 2 жыл бұрын
So interesting, thanks.
@wilhelmhesse1348
@wilhelmhesse1348 2 жыл бұрын
Those eyes are void of all kindness... Empty... Hollow...
@michaelgabriel7919
@michaelgabriel7919 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that Peiper avoided justice after the war... but looks like justice finally met up with Joachim Peiper. I can understand why his death sentence was commuted. US soldiers and prison guards would have known who he was and what happened at Malmedy. And while I don't condone their actions... I can understand why they did it. What is most curious is the fact that Peiper's 30+ year prison sentence was reduced to drastically. My guess is, as a senior SS officer, the Allies decided to use his knowledge at aid them in anti-Soviet activities during the Cold War... like many other former SS and German intelligence officers. Peiper deserved to be held accountable for his despicable actions during the war... and eventually he was... just not by a court a law.
@googoogjoobgoogoogjoob
@googoogjoobgoogoogjoob 2 жыл бұрын
How shocking! That he lived so much of his post-war life as a free man.
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
So do many American war criminals still alive today. Even Arthur "Bomber" Harris (responsible for bombing of Germany and Dresden) himself said: "I enjoyed incinerating German women and children". He gloated about it and died a hero.
@abramjones9091
@abramjones9091 Жыл бұрын
Died from smoke inhalation, not burned alive... big difference
@BathSaltShaman
@BathSaltShaman 2 жыл бұрын
It was sad to hear he was knocked out by the smoke before he burned. He never got to fully taste the helplessness he spent his career gifting to others.
@ingolahs6253
@ingolahs6253 Жыл бұрын
if you start serious chokin, you will shurely wake up . your survival will wants you to fight. i once felt asleep wit an glimmering zigarette in my fingers,,it wasnt the burning bed ,but the chokin and coughin and fight for air,that finally woke me up. i guess, pieper burn t alive.
@Jordan-rb28
@Jordan-rb28 2 жыл бұрын
"And he was armed with a Colt .38 revolver, and a .22LR rifle to defend himself" Damn I'm more equipped to defend myself at age 19, and I wasn't even a convicted Nazi war criminal and serial murderer.
@kdfulton3152
@kdfulton3152 2 жыл бұрын
@ Jordan: Perhaps not, but if you really did arm yourself at 19 in USA, then you are part of our problem and pretty much an idiot!
@wattage2007
@wattage2007 2 жыл бұрын
@@kdfulton3152 Whaddyaknow, a triggered anti-gun snowflake is here to give its worthless opinion.
@bobfg3130
@bobfg3130 2 жыл бұрын
I have some doubts you are. He didn't think it was going to happen.
@gandalfgreyhame3425
@gandalfgreyhame3425 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobfg3130 Well, you have to remember that this was in France in 1976, and owning a scoped AR-15 type rifle with multiple 30 round high capacity magazines for home defense was not possible back then. Here in the United States, in many gun friendly states, that is very common now, with the AR-15 being one of the best selling guns here in the US for the last decade or more. Also, 6-shot .38 revolvers like the one that Peiper had were still the standard side arm of most law enforcement in the U.S. and around the world in 1976. Semi-automatic pistols did exist but double stack magazines containing 15-20 rounds of 9mm hollow point did not. Yep, I've got all of that for my home defense, and I'll bet Jordan does too.
@ryandavis9898
@ryandavis9898 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather max brusinski was an American citizen and that side of my family came back to Poland and he became a tank commander then fought on the side of the british and my great uncle was interned at auschwitz but survived the war I guess my great uncle found it hard to find work in america so changed our last name to davis
@norms3913
@norms3913 2 жыл бұрын
I think my grandad helped liberate dachau camp
@nickmerino9440
@nickmerino9440 Жыл бұрын
Sad he changed your names. I'm a fellow pole. My mom's side has a very polish last name like your gpops, but they didn't change it.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Жыл бұрын
​@@nickmerino9440 maybe sad, maybe not
@georgec4917
@georgec4917 2 жыл бұрын
He got a bonus of an extra 30 years, unlike his many victims.
@jmy7622
@jmy7622 2 жыл бұрын
Study the Nuremburg trial carefully.
@matthewdavid6134
@matthewdavid6134 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmy7622 What do you mean by that? Also how does that change the fact that this guy got to live an extra 30 years while his victims didn't?
@doriscastillo4438
@doriscastillo4438 2 жыл бұрын
That is sad,I hope that those years he was looking always to his back waiting to be catch for the international army
@Genghis-Khan121
@Genghis-Khan121 2 жыл бұрын
The church incident killing civilians was France not the eastern front ,
@jmy7622
@jmy7622 2 жыл бұрын
@@doriscastillo4438 Most people don't understand Gemany between the wars. But to the war most don't understand the SS , lots were mad dog killers, some joined for patriotic reasons ,more pay ,best equitment ,The actual trial was filmed ,there were witnesses.You can't put this in a post,it's a long story.peiper was 10 miles away the trffic jam was even longer,like the Russians they would have guys in the rear searching for people to kill .At this stage of the war he was given Hitler youth,old guys paratroopers , a mixed bag of misfits Many in the front that killed these guys were all hung, Peiper they couldn't prove anything, nothing.Our guys commited war crimes on film . they were told don't do that anymore. The mia lai massacre in 'Nam man in charge was there and walked .War is an evil thing.These things happened thousads of years ago to this day going on right now, you just don't hear about it. The victor makes the history. DR Mengle ,Japan did the same thing , we did it too but for much longer to our own people their patients were in prison or the wrong color many died ,then our "DR's " went overseas to Africa and India they kicked us out.One was BILL GATES Mr vaccine , he would have good times with his buddy Epstein, thats why he's divorced or separated. There's pictures of Peiper when he first joined ,Himmler saw him and made him his secretary,he always looked very unhappy and asked to be sent to the front. Evil is everywhere and lots of times we are behind it .Afghanistan ,geeze the last 20 years we've been killing folks half way around the world in a dozen countriesDid you see any of the pics of babies starving to death because of us? horrific !What's going on in our own country today ? Mexico , our problem became their problem and we're talking many millions of dead .I guess that comes when we declare ourselves the superpower. Do you know more americans were killed in our civil war than WW2?
@8472turtle
@8472turtle 2 жыл бұрын
The Russian movie come and see shows what they did.... Thank you for telling these stories Mark. All your hard work is appreciated.
@ducomaritiem7160
@ducomaritiem7160 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen that movie, you can't catch sleep for some time after watching it.
@8472turtle
@8472turtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@dietrich7090 he did order his units to kill civilian non combatants.... He fought on the Russian side and then was involved with malmedy... Everyone knows what Germany did during that time. Your defending a murderer.... History will remember him as such regardless.
@8472turtle
@8472turtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@dietrich7090 peiper was sent out to perform the Final solution... He was sent out to destroy everything in his path... That's what Hitler wanted. He negated his right to live through his OWN actions... Once a Nazi always one....
@8472turtle
@8472turtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@dietrich7090 only good Nazi is a dead Nazi... Have a good day
@8472turtle
@8472turtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@dietrich7090 LoL 😂.... OKAY... FRITZ.... Da svidaniya.... Uvidimsya... Comrade... Malinkiy mushchina....
@davidpostma9862
@davidpostma9862 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve known of this brute for a long time. Glad the group served justice.
@gravitatemortuus1080
@gravitatemortuus1080 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, it may have not been. He said the body was confirmed but actually the head and hands were to burned to do so. But the rest of the body was not. There is evidence he may have been moved to another location and this was to cover it. Several books on it. Who knows.
@davidpostma9862
@davidpostma9862 2 жыл бұрын
He ran over Gil’s with his tanks who came out to surrender
@jmy7622
@jmy7622 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidpostma9862 He never drove a tank.
@morge...
@morge... 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidpostma9862 eikel
@Garbeaux.
@Garbeaux. 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t like Frenchman but loves France. You know, the place that’s full of the people he hated. Logic right there.
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
Peiper never was known as being smart.
@christopherjohnson2171
@christopherjohnson2171 2 жыл бұрын
Well done people of France.
@stefanvogel8255
@stefanvogel8255 2 жыл бұрын
Idiot...He had nothing to do with Malmedy. Watch unter Galgen wächst kein Gras...
@richardweston7595
@richardweston7595 2 жыл бұрын
Choosing to live in France seems odd to me. That decision eventually caught up with him.
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice in the countryside there. There's a charm in the very air. Perhaps he thought that by moving to such a place he could forget his troubled past. Also, as a narcissist, and unused to caring much about the feelings and lives of others, he no doubt underestimated the pain he'd caused by committing his many crimes and the abiding hatred he'd engendered.
@lasko24
@lasko24 2 жыл бұрын
Many ex German soldiers ended up settling in other countries after the war.Which is the thing with wars after it is over it seems like everyone is supposed to pretend it never happened. Like the scene from Band of Brothers where the US soldier and the German soldier was doing traffic stops together and just talking like a few days before they wasn't trying to kill each other.
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 2 жыл бұрын
@@lasko24 Your words remind me of the legend of Valhalla, where the warriors would fight each other during the day and then feast together at night. Or how, in the Great War, many soldiers met between the trenches during the first Christmas to exchange little presents and drinks. And the idea that your opponents are OK lives on in modern sporting events when people shake hands after a hard-fought game. But I guess there's a kind of code that must followed in order for everyone, as you say, to "pretend it never happened."
@bluerock4456
@bluerock4456 2 жыл бұрын
@@polarvortex3294 He thought himself a superior being; why would he take notice of the feelings of inferiors?
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluerock4456 Then why he begged for protection for the local french police if he felt superior.
@LeopardIL2
@LeopardIL2 2 жыл бұрын
Man this is top notch content, uncensored History. Can you make one about Max Wunche?
@dfaltin
@dfaltin 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t an execution, but murder
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
Another apologist crying because a war criminal that slaughtered children and unarmed civilians got the justice he deserved. Execute him, revive him, and repeat the cycle for each of his thousands of victims.
@fondelmaddick5085
@fondelmaddick5085 2 жыл бұрын
What was said about his involvement and punishment regarding the Malmedy massacre, is incorrect. American troops came forward in his defence at his trial, making it clear he told his men NOT to shoot escaping GI's.
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
Lying seems to be one of your strongest skills.
@josiel152
@josiel152 2 жыл бұрын
I"ve wondered why so many killers of civilians and the Nazi who committed war crimes and should have been hanged got there sentences commuted. Never seemed right to me when they killed and tortured so many including children.
@tonyjames5444
@tonyjames5444 2 жыл бұрын
The number of Japanese military personnel who escaped justice for dare I say even more horrific crimes is shameful, unlike the Nazis the the bulk of Japanese war crimes went unpunished.
@lscher2461
@lscher2461 2 жыл бұрын
Well ask the americans about the thousands of n4z1s that they brought overseas and treated them way Better than American veterans... apparently when the evil ones help you get into space before the s0viets its all good huh? But instead lets worry about the 3 or 4 that escaped to the magical mointains of Argentina, not on the thousands we brought here...
@itsreallyjustmehere611
@itsreallyjustmehere611 2 жыл бұрын
@@lscher2461 the soviets did the exact same thing
@deadby15
@deadby15 2 жыл бұрын
The US hasn't even apologized to the Vietnamese for spraying Dioxin over civilians.
@mglenn7092
@mglenn7092 2 жыл бұрын
Tony James, L Scher - unfortunately we tend to live in a very unjust world where the perpetrators of atrocities usually get away with it, and it is rather shameful that we protected a lot of nazis (because they were useful) and let a lot of Japanese war criminals off the hook (because it was politically expedient when we needed Japan's support as a base while we were fighting in Korea - that's really the point when the War Crimes/Crimes Against Humanity tribunals in Japan stopped). We continue to let a lot of people get away with it - including some on our side who deserve to be prosecuted and punished for the ways they've crossed all moral lines. The real world does really suck that way. It's still gratifying though to see that not all of the monsters masquerading as human beings, animals like Joachim Peiper, escaped a just karmic end for their atrocities.
@pointsofsue2487
@pointsofsue2487 Жыл бұрын
Mum and Dad were visiting a museum in France in the late 70s, and it was about WW2 and the atrocities against the millions of victims. A lady started crying and her German husband said it was all lies, and that it was lies facilitated by the British. First time my dad got into a fight since WW2 when he and his unit liberated a concentrationcamp, and he taught the Nazi a lesson. I guess when you are a Nazi..you are always a Nazi. Very proud of my dad that day. Miss you old man...my hero.
@ladycplum
@ladycplum Жыл бұрын
Thank your father or his service, for me.
@timeanagy8495
@timeanagy8495 Жыл бұрын
A Nazi? What about anti-white BLM? About the Palestine thing, the Is-raeli Nazism. France killed more than a million people in Africa and till this day terrorize the whole continent. Africans even have to speak in the disgusting French language. France is the only one in EU that has A bombs. Without Hitler France would occupy half of Germany even today. The US killed 10's of millions of people during their wars...
@ladycplum
@ladycplum Жыл бұрын
@@timeanagy8495 You sound like you would have been right at home in the Hungarian Arrow Cross with Szalasi and his thugs.
@dtomdtom92
@dtomdtom92 Жыл бұрын
“We defeated the wrong enemy” -George S. Patton
@jpmnky
@jpmnky Жыл бұрын
You’re right about the “once a Nazi always one” thing. My dad said the same about Putin. “He’s f*****g KGB. And once you’re KGB, you’re KGB for life”. This was years ago. Now here in 2022, going into 2023 he’s been proven right.
@syntaxed2
@syntaxed2 2 жыл бұрын
Many wanted revenge for what he had done...evil goes where evil does and his dark past caught up with him.
@volkerwestphal3746
@volkerwestphal3746 2 жыл бұрын
Without wanting to vindicate any sorts of nazi-crimes (which are uncountable), but there is so much wrong about these "facts" about Peiper, I wouldn't even know where to begin. Where did this untoldpast guy get his information from? I mean the sources? Hollywood? Hey guys, there's a thing called scientificity. Just countercheck what you are told here. Only one little piece of bit of it. And you'll find out, the rest isn' t exatly scientific either.
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 2 жыл бұрын
You have just eaten the propaganda fed to you grow up
@erich2432
@erich2432 2 жыл бұрын
Communist partisans did it, not the former French military personnels who fought in 1940 (Battle of France) and 1944 (original resistance). Communist partisans were worse than the Einsatzgruppen, were on the same level of Bandera brigade who did Wolyn. Partisans got what they deserved in the Eastern Front. No sympathies for them.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Жыл бұрын
​@@zaynevanday142 ??
@johnking6624
@johnking6624 2 жыл бұрын
If ever there was a justified putting down of a dangerous animal it was this.
@davidcarter1013
@davidcarter1013 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly put
@lorraineprahm5461
@lorraineprahm5461 2 жыл бұрын
Animals are innocent and nothing like this depraved man
@johnking6624
@johnking6624 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorraineprahm5461 I stand corrected. I was wrong, you are right. No animal could sink to his level of depravity.
@hahahoodgoboom4778
@hahahoodgoboom4778 2 жыл бұрын
"History is always written by the victor, and the histories of the losing parties belong to the shrinking circles of those who were there." - Joachim peiper
@knightowl3577
@knightowl3577 2 жыл бұрын
" Aargh, I'm on fire!"… Joachim Piper.
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
@@knightowl3577 Now THAT is funny!
@BoyScout1960
@BoyScout1960 11 ай бұрын
“The victor will always be the judge, and the vanquished the accused.” Written by Hermann Göring on his copy of the indictment at Nürnberg.
@dougjohnson5243
@dougjohnson5243 2 жыл бұрын
So what is the rest of the story about the remainder of Mrs. Peiper's life?
@ileanaaacotaacosta7769
@ileanaaacotaacosta7769 Жыл бұрын
To Doug Johnson Peipers wife Sigurd survived him for almost three years and of an illness hepatitis in April 1979 at 67 she was cremated and Peipers ashes arnd hers are together in a Bavarian cemetery
@TheYeti308
@TheYeti308 2 жыл бұрын
Undisclosed info was this ; A good amount of blood was found out side the building , a contribution of two types not of Pipers , suggesting that a couple of Pipers assailants were critically hit in the exchange of gun fire .
@kbanghart
@kbanghart Жыл бұрын
Source?
@borjastick
@borjastick 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't commit the Malmedy atrocity. He was responsible but wasn't present. If you want a really good read on his story try Leo Kessler's S.S. Pieper. Fascinating story.
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 2 жыл бұрын
Peiper was responsible because he was in direct command of the killers.
@borjastick
@borjastick 2 жыл бұрын
@@doncarlton4858 No he wasn't in 'direct' command because he was miles away. He held his hand up to if you like corporate responsibility because he was their commanding officer.. Read the book and you'll see exactly what happened.
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy 2 жыл бұрын
@@doncarlton4858 Peiper was innocent for Malmedy in the same way that general Homma was innocent for the Bataan death march.
@Asger21
@Asger21 2 жыл бұрын
I love all Leo Kessler's books but though many details were right, there were a lot of fiction in them as well. Truth mixed with lies are just lies.
@salus1231
@salus1231 2 жыл бұрын
Fan of him were you ?
@tomt373
@tomt373 2 жыл бұрын
What goes around, comes around.
@andrejb.5342
@andrejb.5342 2 жыл бұрын
Not always - unfortunately...
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrejb.5342 Yes, ALWAYS..... The infinitely fractal Karmic Feedback-Loops, operating within Kosmic Scoreboard-Effect, act to ensure that Arseholes ALWAYS do get their Just(ifiable) Deserts... Nowhere is it written that you, or I, or anybody else, will neccessarily know ALL the contributory reasons and factors which determines why ANYBODY Else ever thinks, or does, any particular thing...; but my experience convinces me that no Selfish Act goes unpunished, and no Selfless Act goes unrewarded...., over the LONG run. Watching the lives of piss-proud selfish Arseholes initially appear to prosper, before inexorably turning into endless Shit for them to eat - every waking hour, is one of Life's little entertainments. Available to any and all, who care to observe, notice, and pay attention to what's actually going on ; in depth. Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@steven-el3sw
@steven-el3sw 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarblesOnALot are you saying the Jews who died in the holocaust deserved what they got?
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 жыл бұрын
@@steven-el3sw G'day, Nope. Different topic. The Universe operates on Perfect Liberty (Free Will), and with Perfect Liberty there is also Perfect Responsibility.... And everybody is always constrained by the Options left remaining, following the Decisions and Choices made previously by others. You cannot today go and look at a flock of Dodos because the Dutch East India Company already caught and killed them all, and fed them to their Sailors..., you cannot look at a Passenger Pigeon today because the US CitiZens shot them all out of the Sky and ate the bloody lot. For every Individual who makes a stupid selfish Decision or Choice, somebody else gets to be their Innocent Victim. If one person, in a fit of Sanctimonious Self-Righteousness decides to volunteer to be paid to work as a Concentration Camp Guard, locking up Human Beings for a living - at Guantanamo Bay or Auschwitz..., then somebody else gets stuck with the Options which were left to Anne Frank. Where the Mystery happens, is the amount of organisation required to ensure that EVERYBODY Dies when at their Spiritual Peak - ie when no further Options exist for them to choose which will lead them up towards the Light rather than down into the Darkness. Apparently once 56 million Germans voted to be governed by Adolph, then the available options for millions of other people became greatly reduced. Some saw the writing on the wall, and left (which was difficult, expensive, frightening and dangerous) others stayed where they were and hoped nothing bad would happen. How many of the people in Hamburg who voted and cheered for Hitler were still cheering for his decision-making skills in 1943 when RAF Bomber Command cooked 43,000 Hamburgers in one night ? The Faith comes in when one accepts that the Creator Godtheory of the entire Universe is NOT a Fcukwit, and that being Omnipresent, Omnis(ent)ient and Omnipotent also involves being COMPETENT..., and BENEVOLENT... as part of the Gig. Try looking on the Flipside. Yes, millions of People - including innocents, were killed in Concentration Camps ; and some people nevertheless emerged alive afterwards..., and SOME of the Inmates put their lives back together and were able to enjoy the rest of their time on Earth. But NONE of the Camp Guards had any "Happy Ever After"..., many were killed out of hand by the Allied Troops who liberated the Camps. Most were tried for War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity, some were executed, some were imprisoned, some spent their lives on the Run. As Billy Wobblestick put it, "The Guilty flee, Whence None Pursue...!" When I was trying to hold a bad marriage together I was troubled by half a dozen "Back Door Pricks" who tried to shimmy up to my missus while she and I were quarrelling and squabbling...; and within 21 years after me leaving the Missus 4 of them were pushing up Daisies and the other two went to Prison for totally unrelated matters - and I had not taken ANY action to "get even" with them in any way. I like to concentrate on trying not to behave like a selfish Arsehole, personally, and see how good a bloke I can contrive to be by being nice to people - and I leave all the Vengeful-Shit distribution up to my Godtheory ... (because I am NOT "The Lord...", and the Teaching is, "....'Vengeance is MINE...!' saith The Lord..."). So, no, of course I do not think that the people who died in WW-2 Concentration Camps "deserved" what happened to them. Consider the little kids who were regimented and militarised by the Pfadfinder's Bund and the Boy Scouts and High School Army Cadets and the Hitler Jugend and Komsololskaya and the ROTC.., they who were taught to be dutifully reflexively unthinkingly and unblinkingly Jingoistic and Nationalistic and Patriotic and Honourable and Law-Abiding and Obedient to duly constituted Authority and to the Chain of Command....; how CULPABLE were they, when they obeyed their recieved "Orders" to bomb Guernica, invade Poland, occupy France, hit the Beach at ANZAC Cove while trying to invade Turkey for the good of the British Empire, Blitz London and Coventry, invade Russia, firebomb Lubeck, Rostock, Cologne, Hamburg, Essen, Duisburg, Magdeburg, Nuremberg Bremen, Bremerhaven, Wilhelmshaven and Berlin..., machine-gun 2,500 shipwrecked Japanese Infantry while they were swimming in the Bismark Sea least they swim to Papua and attack Milne Bay, firebomb Tokyo or Nuke Nagasaki after Hiroshima....? Here's one for you to ponder. There is no difference in the Suicide Deathrates between Military Veterans, and Combat Veterans, BOTH groups display twice the death rate from Suicide compared to their Age Cohort in the General Population..., so it is NOT being in Combat which makes them more suicidal - either it's what happens to them during Basic Training, or the people who are already Suicidal are attracted to join the Military... However, according to the Australian Institute of Health & Welfare Statistics ("Morbidity & Mortality in Vietnam Combat Veterans & their Children", 1998 & 2000), The Children of Combat Veterans display 300% (three times) the annual Suicide Deathrate of their Age Cohort among the Children of Normal Parents (who have never been in Combat), as well as 180% (1.8 times) the annual Accidental Deathrate, and also 120% (1.2 times) the annual Death from illness rate of their Age Cohort among the offspring of normal parents. So, the children of Combat Veterans literally die off 4 times faster than the children of people who were never in Combat. Thus are the Sins of the Parents visited onto their Children, apparently... For reference, people growing up Same Sex Attracted in a NSW Country Town - prior to the Marriage Equality Act, displayed 600% the Suicide Deathrate, between age 15 and 25, of the Straight Adolescents growing up in the same towns. Another Datapoint, from the Melbourne University School of Medicine, 2010, is that the Survivors of Childhood Sexual Assault display 1,800% (18 times) the Suicide Deathrate, as well as 4,800% (48 times) the Accidental Drug Overdose Deathrate of their Age Cohort who were not abused - with their Deaths "clustering" around 18 years after the Abusive Incident. An hypothesis to explain the Military Vet's and Combat Vet's' doubled Suicide Deathrate might be that Children who are sexually abused may be more attracted to enter the military than are children who are not abused....(?). All things considered, it would be a very brave or foolish person who concludes that they personally have the "Right" to Judge and Punish other people for having gone and done stupid Bullshit things - for "reasons" which at the time they thought "made sense". At least, that's how it appears to me. Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@warrenkimble4578
@warrenkimble4578 2 жыл бұрын
Bloody good shows mate 😃👍
@franksarna4595
@franksarna4595 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to shake the the hands of those that killed Peiper it is called justice
@abacab87
@abacab87 2 жыл бұрын
So he didn't burn alive, he was overcome with smoke while trying to save possessions. Not that different than the many deaths I hear about locally.
@leodesalis5915
@leodesalis5915 2 жыл бұрын
99.99% of the time someone "burns alive" the smoke inhalation would've killed them first, it's only people put through incineration chambers or trapped in burning vehicles that are actually burnt alive. He would've died in agony and he got his just desserts he should've met the hang man 30 year's prior so he should count himself lucky.
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
@@leodesalis5915 " he should've met the hang man 30 year's prior " Are you a judge?
@leodesalis5915
@leodesalis5915 Жыл бұрын
@@Bahamut3525 if you think what he did didn't deserve death then I already know your not worth debating over this
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Жыл бұрын
@@leodesalis5915 It's a good thing you don't have the education to have studied law and actually worked in the justice system.
@leodesalis5915
@leodesalis5915 Жыл бұрын
@@Bahamut3525 😂😂😂😂your funny pal
@Will-ux1dg
@Will-ux1dg 2 жыл бұрын
How could his execution be brutal when he was a murderer.
@oman9492
@oman9492 2 жыл бұрын
You suffer from sadism. Being sadistic is the purest and some say the only true form of evil. You need help
@peterecos634
@peterecos634 2 жыл бұрын
@@oman9492 What was the murder of 76 American GIs at Malmedy? Or the killing of the Italian civilians? Don't tell me orders are orders. That excuse doesn't work.
@oman9492
@oman9492 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterecos634 it was sick in the head by sadistic sheep. No excuse but that doesn't mean they should be tortured to death. Just kill them quickly and move on. Torturing people is sadistic doesn't matter if it was does by the so called good guys
@mrblackmamba117
@mrblackmamba117 2 жыл бұрын
@@oman9492 well I'm a sadist then. Any convicted murderer, rapist, etc should be made to suffer till their last breath.
@Vevay1961
@Vevay1961 Жыл бұрын
@@oman9492 So your approach to those who murder innocent men, women and children is hug them and make them feel better about themselves so you won't be considered "sadistic". Check in with your psychiatrist. Tell them your meds need to be increased because you're making excuses for serial killers again.
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