the bts solo promotions: favoritism or proper strategy?

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Rex React

Rex React

Күн бұрын

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@mawbast1
@mawbast1 Ай бұрын
When Hobi was on Suchwita Yoongi gave him a big fat We Told You So about HOBI’S initial decision to only release a digital version. “We told you Army wants the extra’s” is what Yoongi told him after HE decided to release a physical version of JITB. They’re grown men and artists that have been making their decisions for years now
@Beautyaurasub
@Beautyaurasub Ай бұрын
Yes! Having a bias is different from being a toxic solo fan! , u can’t hate on a member just because you like one member!!!
@Happydaysxox
@Happydaysxox Ай бұрын
Just so you know some solo stans of members will always say that they are being mistreated or sabotaged 🙄 as if they are little kids and don’t have their own mouths to talk and if it was so bad all of them would have left no? People need to realise they are adults and can choose to do what they want with help from bighit bc it’s not what you wanted them to have doesn’t mean they are being mistreated. They all went different ways for a reason and if some of these solos actually use their brain they would understand this. Anyways I’m glad you are still exploring them and trying to understand as much as possible as there’s so much but keep going💜
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 Ай бұрын
So according to you taehyung wanted his sales deleted?? He wanted no promo in US?? he also wanted no one to listen to his album?? He also wanted his fancams and vids to be taken down?? Is that what you're saying?? It's clear bang pd does not like him after he worked with mhj and he has been showing it by blacklisting him
@Happydaysxox
@Happydaysxox Ай бұрын
@@ssev4026 are you slow?? Is that what I said? You guys will take what people say and twist it to your own narrative. They had their own ways they wanted to promote and if that excluded the US then who tf are you to say otherwise? Acting like he’s being held against his will go out and touch grass. I already said in another comment that I get the sales stuff being an issue and I agree there was a problem with that but this video isn’t about sales but about promotions which the tannies themselves said they’ve taken control in it mostly.
@ZoriNikolova
@ZoriNikolova Ай бұрын
Bangtan solo albums are masterpiece❤ stan all 7 for better live. Can't wait for the comeback😌💜
@menohero_menovillian
@menohero_menovillian Ай бұрын
regarding solo stans....i don't get them either. I would understand if the members were known to have beef with each other and you want to defend your fav...but they literally say how much they love and care about each other ALL the time. It's like you're starting to date someone, and they love their family and want to spend time with them, and you try to manipulate them and talk bad about their family just so that they'll start seeing them less and caring about them less....do they not see how TOXIC that behavior is? They really need to check themselves to be that toxic
@쏭-x1q
@쏭-x1q Ай бұрын
제대로 사랑할 줄 모르는 사람들의 사랑하는 방법을 보고 있으면 참 안타깝습니다. 그 사람도 살면서 언젠가는 알게 되겠지..라고 생각할 수 밖에요.
@chimwemwemoyo9374
@chimwemwemoyo9374 Ай бұрын
Exactly. I found v's solo music first because of the type of music I usually gravitate towards and needed soulful sounds that I didn't understand to help me focus more while studying but once I found out he was in a group I checked out BTS songs too, this was 4 years ago. Then I started watching their shows and then I can admit v was my bias cuz I knew him first but as I became Army, I pay attention to all if them as a group support all their solo stuff and understand deeply the importance of each member and how they fit perfectly in the group. I hate solo stans as much as I hate shippers and just ignore that type of content Altogether. ❤❤
@Lovewinsall64
@Lovewinsall64 Ай бұрын
Please, not all solo stans are like this! Yes, some are but I would say that they are most likely Army who have become more biased towards one member. It’s inevitable that as each member has a solo career, they will attract new fans who will only ever be solo fans and not drawn into BTS as a whole. I heard V’s solo work way before I even realised that he was in BTS. I like some of BTS’ songs but I’m not really a fan - I’m a fan of V’s music. I have no interest in disparaging other members as I don’t see them being in competition with V anymore than any other music artist. But it is upsetting when I see and hear fans of other members trying to diss him and his solo career and his music. I don’t care about streams and fastest to do this or that. Others may be passionate about all that but I really don’t care. All the inequality stuff is a mystery. Who knows what Hybe’s attitude is to each member. Only they know. From the outside it does seem odd but we may never know if promotions are in control of the members or the management.
@user-nh5iz8xu7y
@user-nh5iz8xu7y Ай бұрын
@@Lovewinsall64the very definition of a solo Stan is one that likes only one member
@TiaIela
@TiaIela Ай бұрын
@@Lovewinsall64 this is the problem with being a solo stan. if you only focus on one member and come in the middle of everything and don't even try to familiarize yourself with the history of bts, you won't be able to create an image of bts as they really are. Bts themselves have said how they can call Bang pd as a friend. it's really taboo in korea, they've also expressed how they have a say in their own work. i mean isn't it predictable, if big hit wasn't equal to them they would have left there ages ago, but today big hit is their company they saved it and bang pd knows that if bts leaves his career is over. I personally don't understand the solos and their thought process. They complain about how their favorite is belittled by ARMY, but in reality the ones who do that are the other solos. ARMY=ot7. We have no reason to sabotage members because we like them equally. This leaves the thought that if there were simply no solos, then your favorite would not be belittled by other solos. being solo is a bit like cooking. ok you can only eat potatoes for the rest of your life because you stay alive that way, but why not use other ingredients like vegetables, spices and meat to make a tasty meal. isn't that just stupid. in the same way, each member is delicious on their own, but together they create a tasty dish..
@bereasonable8018
@bereasonable8018 Ай бұрын
Thank you Rex for understanding that these men are grown and confident and they support each other. I truly believe that if one member thought another needed additional support, they would help each other. They’ve made surprise visits to help each other just because one of them says they miss the members in their group chat. There is no way the members would be ok with any of them being slighted if that’s how that member felt. Trust the members.
@TheMamamarieke
@TheMamamarieke Ай бұрын
50:38 Solo stans are NOT common. I mean, yes there’s a f**k ton of them but ARMY outnumbers them by many, many millions. When you react to an individual member’s music they come out in droves and fill your comment section. PLEASE know that the solo stans/ARMY ratio in your comments does not reflect ARMY as a whole. Solo stans are quite toxic, and the member stan groups fight with each other A LOT. “HYBE, protect [insert member name]!” “Company sabotage! BigHit is intentionally sabotaging [member name]!” “Armpits hate [member name]. [Member name] fans are the only ones who really care about him!” (Yes, they really say armpits instead of ARMY) “[Member name] needs to get out of that group so he can have the career he deserves.” You can literally insert any member name and solo stans have said it. And, seriously, they’re the ones who don’t care about their supposed fave if they’re saying shit like that. Willfully ignoring what they say about how important the group is to them, how important ARMY is to them…..what kind of f**ked up love is that?! If the member who they purport to love heard them saying such things they would be ashamed. *Each member has gained fans from their solo promotions to their target audiences. Even if they never dive into BTS, the majority don’t become “solo stans”.
@bereasonable8018
@bereasonable8018 Ай бұрын
I truly believe that in many cases it’s the antis posing as fans trying to cause infighting within Army. There is strength in numbers so they try to divide us while the members are in the military and unable to clear the air. Army is strong and BTS themselves will make things clear once they’re discharged.
@lara.alexandrina
@lara.alexandrina Ай бұрын
Wow - já vi muitas mensagens assim antes, é desse jeito mesmo
@user-nh5iz8xu7y
@user-nh5iz8xu7y Ай бұрын
My only problem is they were never her before bts solo activity or at least they weren’t this much. I am just hoping when all the members come back as a group they will leave or at least decrease.
@TiaIela
@TiaIela Ай бұрын
@@user-nh5iz8xu7y yeah I've been thinking the same thing. i mean it makes sense that now there are more solos than before, because now they have content to stream without having to skip to the part where their favorite comes in the music video or settle for just watching fan cams. i feel like we can't win😭 before the solo era the shippers were a big problem but luckily they haven't got any content to analyze so they haven't been seen.. i hope when bts gets back together the solos and shippers can fight each other and leave without us having to think about them
@mimirasidi1144
@mimirasidi1144 Ай бұрын
Coz solo stan is not army.....ARMY support ot7 n believe in bts
@geekyreader34
@geekyreader34 Ай бұрын
the most exciting one to me was Sugas and Rm's and J Hope. JK was good but its too much like american pop music which i dont listen to too much lol. but since jk said he wanted to be a global pop star then thats why he went that way
@anitaherbert1037
@anitaherbert1037 Ай бұрын
The company tried in the begining. They told Jin as he was the handsome one he should have a cool mysterious image. Jin went straight to camera and fans and told them what the company said and said he wasnt go to do that. The company quickly learned their chaotic energy could not be scripted. They were young and the fans loved them just like they were. Random goofy and hilariously anarchic. As they have grown up they settled down alot especially V. They are still really funny.
@hasibahmdadnan
@hasibahmdadnan Ай бұрын
BTS is a matured group. They are experienced enough to know what to do and what they want. They also know each other's strengths and weaknesses so they know which promotion style they wanna do and which audience they target. We know pop is widely accepted more than other genres so it's natural for Jimin and JK to have bigger numbers but in the end it all came back to the group. BTS not only managed to keep most of their existing fans, they also gain a lot of new fans through 7 different promotion styles.
@Brookejay21
@Brookejay21 Ай бұрын
All of the members break records, it’s just jungkook has a pop sound that’s gonna have locals listen too by the mass, same with jimin, but I really hate how solo Stan’s degrade how many achievements the boys have because it’s not as big as “jungkook” like no they just have different music and different achievements..you know how rare it is to have every single solo member BREAK RECORDS? They are all amazing and I’m tired of the comparing solos do. If I made a video on all of the boys achievements solo would be 100000hrs long and Jin would have achievements with super tuna alone which is insane 😭 also side note to add jungkook has said he’s not good at going on verity shows and stuff he just likes performing… so of course his promotion is gonna go that way also we have been waiting for jungkooks solo album for years cause he said he was gonna have a mixtape but every song became a group song or a ost 😭 (film out , your eyes tell ect) IM SO PROUD OF OUR SEVEN 💜 especially suga doing his solo tour and walking through that door, jimin for working so hard on his albums, v for finally doing the music he wants, hobi for shining and going back to his dance routes, rm for overcoming himself through his two albums, jungkook doing pop star things, Jin is yet to come but will show up no doubt 💜 they are so amazing hating on anything they are doing atm is crazy
@Bangtanarmy477
@Bangtanarmy477 Ай бұрын
Bro you forget to mention how they degrade Jungkook and his achievements,also stealing them , spreading wrong info.. saying it's all payola and because if collabs
@user-nh5iz8xu7y
@user-nh5iz8xu7y Ай бұрын
@@Bangtanarmy477yes the solos are absolutely ridiculous down right delusional
@Desired16
@Desired16 Ай бұрын
@@Bangtanarmy477bruhh jk fans are also degrading other members and calling them flops or bots so it’s all solo stans stop acting as if you don’t know and trying to make it seem like it’s just jk achievements being degraded and I am sure you are a jk solo Stan with the ot7 cover, nice try tho
@mnmtcolin8358
@mnmtcolin8358 Ай бұрын
Bighit say no to BTS only for the security of BTS or ARMY cfr Jin festa and number of hugs. Jimin has little prom in US because the secret second album. I trust BTS ❤BTS 💜
@mawbast1
@mawbast1 Ай бұрын
And Jin, while not getting the 3000, definitely got more than the measly 50 that BH had grudgingly agreed to😁
@cutebunn5908
@cutebunn5908 Ай бұрын
If Big Hit didn't put their foot down because of security and let Jin be in a park hugging thousands if fans is a wee bit dangerous. The guys always have a say since day 1. As they grow up and mature they have more say in what they want. I mean they have enough stocks in HYBE that they can really sway board meetings. The guys are well educated in business and media. They all have bachelor degrees in this. 💜💜💜
@kingofkpoptaehyung2998
@kingofkpoptaehyung2998 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 i have to laugh ......no promotion to Tae lol
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
@@kingofkpoptaehyung2998 Tell me you did not watch the video without doing so. Honestly... what are you solos thinking?
@CCL1218-s8z
@CCL1218-s8z Ай бұрын
If Tae no promotion, then Jimin has least support
@annesilva721
@annesilva721 Ай бұрын
Yes, it was crazy when Seven came out because some armys don't like Bts singing in english and the song was explicit, the complaint about the different promotions is just ridiculous, the boys chose what they wanted and the audience they wanted to reach
@secretyidentity2833
@secretyidentity2833 Ай бұрын
I’m someone who loves all their projects, and in theory I have no issue with the pop mainstream releases and I play them all the time, but I cannot deny that some member’s solo career benefit more from the inaccurate (or at least incomplete) image American mainstream media paints of BTS and their music. Jimin and JK shine a lot more bc of that pop boyband choreo image bc they do release songs that fit that image, so the general audiences already expect that kind of music and are more than happy to consume it. But JHope and RM for example DONT release that type of music, and the fans of the genres they do release music in like rap rock, psychodelic rock, funk, neo soul are not gonna tune in to listen to a BTS member’s project bc their only image of BTS is the most famous songs like butter, dynamite, seven, standing next to you, like crazy, who, etc all those are great songs and they do deserve the recognition for it, but it bothers me that ARMY doesn’t seem to care abt all the members actually reaching their target audiences. So many hiphop fans in the US that could make BTS rappers go so much higher on the charts that don’t take BTS rappers as serious rapper bc 1. They are Asian 2. To them they are K-pop artists 3. They are part of a pop boyband. After 2020 most ARMY became ARMY bc of their english pop releases which were HUUUGE and IMO that affected a lot of how the fandom operates, there is no urgency or movement in correcting that image and reaching US hiphop/rock fans and it’s not something you really see unless you are deep in it, on Twitter, in GCs for promoting, for buying, for streaming, etc. solos make everything 10000x harder as well… it’s been really challenging as an RM bias during chapter 2. ANYWAY NEVA PLAY BY MEGAN THEE STALLION AND RM OUT MIDNIGHT THIS FRIDAY 09/06 BE READY TO BUY AND STREAM AND GET RM HIS SECOND HOT 100 ENTRY!!!
@Imme_begin
@Imme_begin Ай бұрын
The sad thing about many rap biases is they are resenting the Maknaes because of their solos. That’s like the people who say they don’t like BTS because of the image they have of ARMY. I typed the below and then realized it might come across as me directing it to you, and it’s not. so below is my rant i went on after starting the reply. 😂 I saw a whole thread on X from RM biases saying they were turning solos because they were pissed at JK’s success and they perceived it had nothing to do with his talent, delivery, song choices. To them it was purely because of perceived favoritism. That argument makes zero sense. Number 1) Companies are in business to make $$, not to sabotage their $$ makers and Number 2) even if that was true, why would anyone take it out on the member(s)?
@secretyidentity2833
@secretyidentity2833 Ай бұрын
@@Imme_begin I'm completely against taking out on the members, they are all different artists and always have been and all make great music that I love, but it does piss me off that ARMY pretends the favoritism doesn't matter or that it's not that big. It is, and it is affecting the career of the BTS rappers who could be taking over hiphop in the US if ARMY gave them half the same energy as the maknae line. But try to mention that in order to look for solutions to this without getting called a solo and put on a report list....
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 Ай бұрын
Girl the members you mentioned are probably the most promoted in US and have been given the most payola bfr now 😂
@secretyidentity2833
@secretyidentity2833 Ай бұрын
@@ssev4026 It seems you don’t even know what payola is so I’m not even gonna bother
@Bangtanarmy477
@Bangtanarmy477 Ай бұрын
You know what rex!! The solo Stan's just can't digest the fact that one member is more famous and successful than their fav member,they would always try to discredit, degrade that member to make their fav mem look better but they don't get the fact that how members love each other,these people turn a blind eye on it
@dawnbradley3702
@dawnbradley3702 Ай бұрын
You haven't watched Run BTS dance practice yet? Wow, you are missing out!!! Suga is so hot with that ponytail.
@soniyaaher6628
@soniyaaher6628 Ай бұрын
Solo is truly anti and 0%knowledge of BTS special bond ..
@JoniyaAbdul
@JoniyaAbdul Ай бұрын
I love ot7 BTS 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@Golden__Betty
@Golden__Betty Ай бұрын
Hi Rex, have you met solo stans yet? They are the ones who tend to single out one member and victimize him. Talking about how powerless and mistreated they are by the company and by armys. Don't fall for it. They all escaped from the asylum 😂. The bts members literally built their company from the ground up. They are artistically free and happy with their art and choices. Don't fall for those
@dawnbradley3702
@dawnbradley3702 Ай бұрын
Suga's Road to D-Day also on Disney is really good.
@tee_m5220
@tee_m5220 Ай бұрын
the solo projects are still ongoing since boracity did her video so a lot of changes have happened. Most members have churned their 2nd album. Jin was just discharged in June and is preparing for his first solo album to be released anytime soon.
@Sergeant_Jin
@Sergeant_Jin Ай бұрын
Thank u rex 💜
@Kalyppo-zh2iz
@Kalyppo-zh2iz Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t want you to divulge in these stuff because people won’t understand My bias is V but I believe himself said he doesn’t want any big promotion since the album was to show himself and his taste
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 Ай бұрын
He NEVER said he didn't wanted promotuon tf are you yapping about?? Why would an artist not want more people to listen to his album?? Are you retSRd my god free taehyung from armys and hybe
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
@@ssev4026 MY god! Free Taehyung from his crazy solos.
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 24 күн бұрын
@@ruthfischer7615 he would have zero streams them so no free him from armys
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 23 күн бұрын
@@ssev4026 Have you any idea how many subscribers & streams he has? He gets 2 million streams a day on Spotify for Love Me Again alone. Do you really think those are all solos? Touch some grass. His music is also on the Match a Billion or whatever that is called list.
@annam1966
@annam1966 Ай бұрын
I have been with you from your first BTS video and I think this is your most honest /heart reaction .. thank you❤
@tonzyjc
@tonzyjc Ай бұрын
Each member has different goals. I personally don't think RM'S goal is the same as Jk's etc etc. The only thing I'd like to see done differently is promoting within spaces that will appreciate their music. Based on the genre. Which is typically how music is promoted outside of the kpop world. V does Jazz/R&B and i would love to see him in some more of those spaces and such. Anyways, i think they have a lot of say in what they want and how they want it, so as fans, i feel we should be respectful in their wishes.
@Imme_begin
@Imme_begin Ай бұрын
Solos stans should watch Suchwita with an open mind. They will learn that the members are in control of their own promotions. There are lots of examples. Just three examples off the top of my head: on Jimin’s episode, Suga mentions how the members are in control of their own promotions, on J-Hope’s episode he talks about how JHope didn’t release a physical album, and on JK’s last episode they are discussing if JK has enough songs to do a tour. Suga said he does and then JK interrupted and said he’s not going to do that. He was only going to do a showcase. I totally agree with you on solo stans. I’m sort of surprised that you don’t see a lot of Jimin solo Stan comments, too. Consider yourself lucky. The three Maknaes have the most solo stans and they are way more toxic than others. I see more JK and Jimin solos than any and I think it is because to them they are in competition. They are mad and jealous of any attention, awards, records, etc. that the others achieve. They need to be prepared to be mad all the time because I predict that JK and Jimin will break each others records over and over. 😊(and possibly the others if they change their strategy to be more geared towards Billboard Pop audiences) JK is my bias (but I love them all) and I tried in the past to appeal to their solos reasoning, but I gave up. I think they are addicted to the negativity and the fight. 🤦🏼‍♀️
@ReiMii0421
@ReiMii0421 8 күн бұрын
At solo stans, it made me confused and anxious about a lot of things going on on the fandom.. so i just stayed quiet and did not argue with anyone else.. thanks to this video, it was enlightening ❤❤❤
@0613samelove
@0613samelove Ай бұрын
I often got frustrated by solo stans during the solo era.Their constant whining and complaining about their fave's mistreatment and favoritism by Hybe clearly showed that they do not trust their fave. They make their fave appear like a doormat, that he does not have a say on how to manage and promote his solo career when in reality, it has always been a collaboration project between Hybe and the artist. They ignore the fact that the artist has a lot of say on the direction of his solo career. And I hate that they compare one BTS member against the other member because with the boys, there is never a competition between them. FYI, I am a Jimin biased, not a solo stan & I am personally pleased with how JImin's FACE was promoted because I knew that Jimin had a lot of hand in the promotion of his album
@쏭-x1q
@쏭-x1q Ай бұрын
저도 처음에 지민이를 좋아하기 시작해서 지민이 멤버들을 너무 사랑하는 모습을 보다보니 멤버 모두를 사랑하게 됐네요. 언젠가는 그들도 알게되고 후회할 날이 오게 될 겁니다. 너무 힘들어하지 마세요. ^^
@Imme_begin
@Imme_begin Ай бұрын
JK didn’t have a hand in his production but I am still pleased. He has shown, as they all have, that he CAN produce and write really pretty songs. It’s just not what his goal was at this time. And that’s okay. I think they should all do what they love and I will support them in their decisions. 😊
@0613samelove
@0613samelove Ай бұрын
@@Imme_begin JK may not have had a hand in the production but I doubt that he would just agree willy nilly to whatever Hybe dictates on how his album should be produced and the promotion.
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 Ай бұрын
Don't worry taehyung is gonna leave that shitty company anyway y'all can have your ot6 😂
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
@@ssev4026 Wow... how long will you repeat that to yourself? He signed the contract a third time and that contract will pretty much come in next year when he is back. For 7 years. Army does not need to worry. The members are going to stay with each other and do whatever they want. Solos on the other hand...
@anitaherbert1037
@anitaherbert1037 Ай бұрын
Do watch RM INDIGO MAGAZINE DOCUMENTARY. Not only RM but all his collaborators. Really interesting and a little emotional for a reason I cannot put a finger on.
@cara9458
@cara9458 Ай бұрын
I loved all seven solo music.....I like getting to see and hear what they have to offer.
@TheTwil1
@TheTwil1 Ай бұрын
Love Bora city. Love common sense and truth.
@thecreativemindfulheart3588
@thecreativemindfulheart3588 Ай бұрын
Love Namjoon, his albums are really beautifully written and performed.
@stolen_egg
@stolen_egg Ай бұрын
I think a lot of fans are still confuse with having biases or solo staning (in the kpop sphere). In kpop it's (a lot of times) very common to solo stan 1 or only some of the members of the group because a lot of kpop companies encourage and capitalize on it. Most Armys are OT7 so they don't condone solo staning where it often gets mix up with biasing. Having biases doesn't necessary mean you are a solo stan but the bias-to-solo-stan pipeline occurs in a lot of cases due to wavering uncertainty breached by other solo stans surrounding them. Solo staning in most cases is because solo stans are creating a lot of chaos within the fandoms so most kpop stans that do stan the entire group(s) are separating themselves with solo stans within their own fandom(s) and vise versa. Bias/biases: Love and respect the entire group while have 1 or more favorite member that they could relate/connect to. Solo stans: Only commit to 1 or some of the members in the group while having prejudice against the rest of the members of the same group.
@angeldiannesoriano2997
@angeldiannesoriano2997 Ай бұрын
I laughed about the word Jungkook girlfriend in seven mv hahaha
@전정국0613
@전정국0613 Ай бұрын
Jk💜👑
@lara.alexandrina
@lara.alexandrina Ай бұрын
6:54 porque nessa época por coincidência a hybe lançou o aplicativo para álbuns online que coincidiu com o álbum do J Hope, foi a decisão dele de fazer as coisas dessa forma mas até então tínhamos só como exemplo de promoções solo, as promoções comuns de k-pop: álbum físico, fotocards e/ou posters etc- por isso que muitas acharam que estavam usando a era solo do J Hope para promover o app ao invés de apoia-lo já que além das músicas no app, e pequenos mimos não tinha nada além disso (e não sabiamos que a estratégia dele seria ao longo do ano e não os 2 meses de impacto).
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
Personally I figured it out during the IU interview. She asked why she was not invited. That made me look who was there at the album drop. Namjoon seems to not have had any trouble but the vocalline was pretty much plastered to the corner and each other. (Yoongi was ill but fans were angry because the next day he was on stage with Psy for That That) Because there was - besides Jessi and very few others - no one they were better connected to. Besides if you looked at the K-Hiphop scene the discussion was always if Namjoon and Yoongi were real rappers or not. Hoseok did not get mentioned at all. I have even seen some people call him an Idol rapper since he learned rap as a trainee not before. Hope World may also have been a little to bright for Hiphop fans. This was Hobi proving himself a real Rapper to a(n) (international) Hiphop audience - something that Army already knew.
@seannpark08
@seannpark08 Ай бұрын
your calico cat is so cute...hehe
@susanamata7281
@susanamata7281 25 күн бұрын
The members decided as a group to let Jungkook finally have his time with Golden. It was his time to shine. V didn’t have to come to the US, to promote Layerover he’s popular enough. Don’t diss Hybe.
@tanarmy-1304
@tanarmy-1304 12 күн бұрын
6:56 ok just a note, its not armys who complain for these things, its mostly solos ( who also act as fans for only one or two members and act as an anti for others) complain about such things and have this victim mentality, they try to make comparisons and try to start unnecessary wars between people for such things. Its really useless.
@Bangtanarmy477
@Bangtanarmy477 Ай бұрын
I don't get these people saying "it's dirty" like y'all are the most innocent creatures,if you're calling it dirty means that you definitely know the meaning behind it than what about that!!? Also it's not like I was innocent before but man after becoming an ARMY in 2018 i have not a ounce of innocence remaining(mentally)same goes for other ARMYs and I don't even wanna bring the 21+ fanfics about members ,you can have your fav person but that's not that now you would hate other members
@chimwemwemoyo9374
@chimwemwemoyo9374 Ай бұрын
And another thought concerning jungkook, he's the youngest member and maybe kinda wanted to shed off that little boy image and show uo as the man that he's become, hence the CK shoot and the "explicit" lyrics. Even his collaborations for remixes where very particularly main stream. Makes so much sense
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 Ай бұрын
payolakook stan lol 😂
@chimwemwemoyo9374
@chimwemwemoyo9374 Ай бұрын
@@ssev4026 are you not embarrassed? Go touch some grass. I'm not the one
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
@@ssev4026 How about learning what your buzzwords mean first? There was no payola just good marketing tailored to the US Pop scene.
@Bangtanarmy477
@Bangtanarmy477 Ай бұрын
@@ssev4026 Dog's barking
@chimwemwemoyo9374
@chimwemwemoyo9374 13 күн бұрын
@@ssev4026 wait that was for me? Lol I'm sorry that didn't land the way you thought it would. My bias is V cuz I heard his music first then got into the whole group so your little assumption to be petty is null and void. I'm a music lover first go touch some grass.
@singularity553
@singularity553 24 күн бұрын
Big promotion is one thing but only people who want to be blind will qct like they didn't notice V's solo work was not listed or posted about by Bighit/Hybe multiple times. Now this could be able MHJ and Hybe beef but still not ok.
@annrose2348
@annrose2348 Ай бұрын
What are u talking about he did music shows , npr desks so many and things
@cherylloper7320
@cherylloper7320 Ай бұрын
On Jimmy Fallon after Jimmy listed JK's accomplishments with Golden. JK said, "You act as if Im some global pop star"! And then grinned. Of course its a goal, but he remained humble. And why wouldnt the Korean audience be proud of him? Reason for Suchwita? Yoongi said it himself, to help promote his members albums and songs. And the most views he ever got were when his members were on. I also can't understand the animosity directed towards these smart, very talented men. It's like middle schoolers all trying to establish their popularity and have agreeable followers. It's childish! Our world is literally being destroyed in front of our eyes and all they are concerned about is vocalizing their hate and importance! And yes, I came back when I realized your content without extreme censorship was what I had missed!😊
@Alva3112
@Alva3112 Ай бұрын
Whoever supports this video is a literal anti …. Choosing promotion was their choice but hanteo deleting taehyungs album sale and the company till date sabotaging layover is not taehyungs choice …. To clarify I am not a solo Stan but it literally pained me to see all the sabotage that the company did to layover and fake armies turning blind eye towards it
@Happydaysxox
@Happydaysxox Ай бұрын
@@Alva3112 what has the hanteo sales got to do with promotion which that’s what the video was about? I agree that there was something going on with the sales part but still doesn’t change that they chose their promotions. Plus many Armys were calling them out on the sales even till recent they’ve continued to mess almost all members sales up.
@Alva3112
@Alva3112 Ай бұрын
@@Happydaysxox Hanteo deleted the sales because the company asked it and the reason they gave was no stock like seriously a huge company can not even have stock of the album …Taehyung broke a 20 year record if they hadn’t sabotaged his album but guess who in the end broke the record even when tae had more pre orders than all the other members… it also affected his positions in billboard … somebody would be either blind or dumb to say that it was not a sabotage Please Start talking in FACTS
@user-nh5iz8xu7y
@user-nh5iz8xu7y Ай бұрын
Are you also ignoring what billboard did to Jimin I hues he should have paid for payola instead 🙄and Rolling Stones to agustd And why will the company try to sabotage one of the most popular member of bts who earns them money and it’s not the first time the charts tried to ruin bts.
@Happydaysxox
@Happydaysxox Ай бұрын
@@Alva3112 was you there when the company asked them to delete it?? Just making things up or following what other people say does not make it a fact.
@Alva3112
@Alva3112 Ай бұрын
@@Happydaysxox if you know how to read to foul have read the hanteo statement where they clearly mentioned the reason … I don’t know why some people are company pets
@HALPIN76
@HALPIN76 Ай бұрын
50:48 spot on!!! Having a bias or 2 is perfectly fine. And I’m going to get some hate here, but even shipping a couple of members IMO is not a problem - as long as you are respectful.. and when I say shipping, I don’t just mean romantically - it could be that you love the way those 2 members interact and bond with each other… What is NOT ok is when you hate on ANY of the members.. Personally I believe all ARMYs should love, support and respect all 7 members - and why wouldn’t you?? They are all freaking amazing and have the most unique talents and personalities. But even if you prefer a member or 2 and aren’t too fussed on others, don’t f*cking hate on them.. don’t put it out there for the world… and BTS… to see. It makes us ARMYs look bad and hurts the BTS members.. I think the big issue is the solo stans and the toxic shippers who hate on other members who get in the way of their Stan or ship…. Jealousy… that’s what it’s all about and it’s f*cked…. 🤷🏻‍♀️💜
@anzplanaz8988
@anzplanaz8988 22 күн бұрын
I DARE YOU TO READ MY SAY. I’ve been an ARMY for years now, but I am so sick of the fake image ARMYs are portraying. Okay. All the promotions for each member are said to be chosen by them. This means each member chooses how to promote their songs, including the shows they will guest on. That, I believe, is true. So, first topic first.. -Their solo era should have happened right after they released the song ‘Dynamite.’ If I remember correctly, they mentioned it last time in their Festa live. The schedule wasn’t followed for reasons we can only assume, but COVID was surely part of it. So now that they have started their solo era, the company doesn’t know how to squeeze all the promos into a tight schedule because they filmed a lot for each member, and they were all going to the military at that time. So what happened was all members’ releases are kind of caught up with each other’s schedules. That I think what happened. There's no other reason. -Next topic. Let's be straight. No artist would not dream of being recognized and their music being known. No artist would not wish to do well on the charts. Why release a music if you don't like it to be heard? LOL. All the members wanted to do well in their solo era. Why? Because this is their individual work. It’s who they are and their type of music. As you said, they have different tastes in music. They want growth and to show their worth as artists, revealing who they really are, not just the image the company and fans gave them. In all aspects of life, growth is important to develop yourself into a better version of you. Change is inevitable. If you don’t embrace it, you will be left behind. Now, why did some members not receive the same success as others? Simple. Their music taste is not relatable to international fans. You can't shove it to other people's throat to like their songs. -ARMY HATES GROWTH AND CHANGE. ARMY has been toxic ever since, but now they are the worst. The fandom has become more exclusive, more manipulative, more selfish, bullies ever since, toxic to the core. ARMY has this mentality where they believe their fandom is enough to give BTS members longevity (which is very important) in their career. They always brag about how big they are and yet they failed to give the other 6 members the success they brag. This is showbusiness. You must have the general public’s interest if you want to go viral or become a massive hit artist. That's why Army hates Jungkook and his fans. Because they thought Jks success is paid by Hybe America. We'll get in to that. Stay tuned -Let's talk about the "sabotage". This solo era has exposed a lot of things. ARMY calls it sabotage when one member’s promotion gets caught up with another member’s release. Like I said earlier, you can’t really blame them for that. Of course, if it was your bias’s promotion, you would want it to be promoted uninterrupted by another member’s release. But Bighit can't seem to do something about it, so yeah. Now, army has this behaviour to always call it sabotage if the members songs don't do well on charts. Yeah. And they end up blaming Jungkook. Yes! you heard that right. They call it sabotage and say bighit's fave member was JK but in reality it was not the case. Army hates the FACT that JKs music and career are massive globally. That's why they call it sabotage and ignore what's really happening because it was JK involved and they want JK to take all the blame. NOW LET ME GIVE YOU WHO WAS SABOTAGED. - If you would ask "Why would the company be accused of sabotage? All 6 members' released were smooth. No leaked songs, all their songs were credited to them rightfully, and versions of songs that should be combined were combined immediately. But JK was a different case. Jk's songs were leaked countless times. Who would leak it? Let's be real. Jk's song credit was messed up countless times and we asked KZbin why is this happening always. Guess what? KZbin said, it was the company who have access to putting credit to an MV or a video. It is not KZbin's job to write the credit. Same in spotify. JKs video credit is always messed up and credited to either the company or the group bts even though BTs has nothing to do to that MV or video. Then if the company was called out by Jk's fans, you will see they will fix it, only to find out after a few days or weeks, that some of JKs video credit is again credited wrongly. Credit is important to be given to the right artists coz that will add up to his records and for the artist to receive accurate streaming data. I can't be making this up right? So BTS was tagged/credited to Dreamers and Left and Right where it's clearly JK's solo projects. The company also tried tagging or crediting BTS to SEVEN song. SEVEN is JKs debut song as a soloist. Ofcourse his fans did not approve of it BECAUSE THAT IS CLEARLY UNFAIR. No other members songs were tagged or credited to BTS as a group. Only JK. So JK fans call out Bighit and they removed bts from the credit because even the media were talking about it and how unfair that was. And mind you, they credited bts there after a week of SEVEN's release. Why? Because they saw how massive the song was. IF you may ask "why are they crediting BTS to JKS songs?", Because if BTS is tagged or credited, some of the streams will go to the group. Basically stealing it from JK. Stream data should go to JKs solo profile alone. But since BTS was credited to Left and Right and Dreamers part of the streams are going to their profile. Imagine how big of streams BH can steal from SEVEN if it was not credited only to JK. Now tell me, is that fair? For someone who is a hard working artist like JK? Does he deserve this kind of sabotage? Bang wanted to secure his BTS group at JKs expense. -Another thing. Hybe employees was caught using using this app or website they call dc gallery. This dc gallery is used by saesang who makes fake rumors. Second. jk fans suspect hybe employees involve in running some BTS fan pages. Mostly jimin fans. Why? Jimin fans were also exposed using a chat plotting to post a fake scandal to try to ruin JK. It was his fans who are brave to threaten JK fans to exposed JKs passport's private information. And they did. Why would they have it? Lately, JK has shown support to artists not being used to CEO wars (the MHJ and BangPd war) Next thing we know, Hybe employees again was caught in this another app or website, bad mouthing JK. Calling him idiot and stubborn. You know why they call him stubborn? Because among the members, JK was the type who always exposed Hybe and BH. He doesn't always follow their sh!t. And we love that Jungkook. My advice to you also, is not to watch videos like this where it is fan made by army. You will end up like them being close minded. Army has built this bubble where they welcome only those people who they can force to believe in their lies and drama and force people to like the 7 members. They do not like the solo career because only JK is smashing it. But if it's another member, they will celebrate. MIND YOU ARMY BOYCOTTED JKS SOLO CAREER. I am thankful JK has his solo fans Jungkookies and general public's approval. AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WITH JK PROMOTIONS WAS JK CHOSE LIVE PERFORMANCES. - Why are armys manipulative, bullies, toxic, selfish group of people? Well, they lived their lives belittling JK and seeing JK as the only successful in this solo era, they boycotted JKs entire solo career. Check every once a while and I will add one by one all the proof. If you want to know each members, just follow them in their social media. Do not rely to fan made videos. There are a lot of fanservice info that feeds their illusion and satisfaction. -First Proof of Jks mistreatment. This was an old tweets just to prove to you how derange armys are. How army are selfish x.com/harbor_jjk/status/1189888235134242816 x.com/stripedtowels/status/1835756258261160358 x.com/prettytigerlily/status/1830465286958358794 x.com/pjmbows/status/1826302810972938594 - And Army also attack who ever is working with JK and attack JK fanbases. They also attacked Usher. I will try to find those tweets and send it here. x.com/luvelytete1/status/1829999846993912314 x.com/Jungkookie4_88/status/1828982906662089210 -We love the stubborn JK x.com/loverrboyjk/status/1835327919809319318 -Hybe employees and sabotage x.com/oIdpistoIa/status/1835256907113586885 x.com/lurkingforkook/status/1835275994007298274 x.com/chartslayjeon/status/1835432296389943465 x.com/sorktnjk/status/1833794487484907633 x.com/GCVT_Vietnam02/status/1832390441796309089 I WILL SEND YOU MORE
@Desired16
@Desired16 Ай бұрын
Jimin❤🌸
@rfatymah
@rfatymah Ай бұрын
next why bts fans doesn't kpop
@bereasonable8018
@bereasonable8018 Ай бұрын
I love all of the members’ solo projects. I created playlists with the different songs depending on my mood. My bias is JK and his solo songs are great for the MJ nostalgia it brings me but I don’t love the American pop sound. Butter and Dynamite aren’t my favorite BTS songs. I’m not a solo-stan. I love all of BTS and have learned that each of them wants to engage in the type of projects and promotions that’s right for them at that time. Timing matters with the imminent military enlistment. I trust the members to choose what was right for them and I also believe that the company would not want to do anything that would make the members unhappy and leave the label.
@exlguns6417
@exlguns6417 Ай бұрын
some army's are so annoying at this point...
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
Some solos are so crazy at this point. I agree.
@mylovelyjubbly2842
@mylovelyjubbly2842 Ай бұрын
Can you react to v layover live performance or mv for his layover anniversary ❤❤❤
@orathv
@orathv Ай бұрын
that video is highly biased and doesn't really show all the elements of the promotion and the lack of professionalism of the company in the distribution or how they spread the news on sns etc. not mentioning that some members (2) had deals with apps such as tiktok spotify youtube etc to give them more visibility huge playlisting in streaming platform which is another topic that biased army avoid to cover to hide the favoritism and when they want to show they all had equal support. all this to say to that no it was not equal and yes all artists want to see they work do well on charts and it's okay to admit it.
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
Solos... will live in their own reality. There is no favoritism. It's just solos who lack awareness and professionalism because they have no idea how stuff works. That is easily exploited by people making money with it. I was so amused when there were protesting trucks and no one knew who they were for. Seems that someone exploited multiple solo groups.
@nancysharma2096
@nancysharma2096 Ай бұрын
ngl jungkook got the best & more promotion compared to other members & thats a simple fact. he had "scooter braun" behind his project to make sure everything goes smooth while for other members we literally were tagging label or distributors to provide us with pre-order link & restocking while during jk solo debut was kinda shocking to me the fandom didn't face no hurdle & things were done timely and even got radio/playlisting push. even if you are ot7 army (like me) yall need to accept the fact there was unequal push from both label & fandom like some of yall trying too hard to gaslight everyone & their mother & look stupid doing it.
@Bangtanarmy477
@Bangtanarmy477 Ай бұрын
@@nancysharma2096 My god y'all are so pathetic, Jungkook didn't wanted to release album it was bangPd and scooter that persuade him...he declined bangPd but than scooter basically forced him to do it, I'm so done with y'all solo stans playing the victim card always
@nancysharma2096
@nancysharma2096 Ай бұрын
@Bangtanarmy477 solo who? meanwhile you are framing jk as some puppet who was forced but thats not the point here. him getting the most push and rest barely got anything is what concerning as an ot7
@Alva3112
@Alva3112 Ай бұрын
Since I don’t want new armies to be brainwashed by this video I will share some facts as to what happened during layover Hybe sabotaging taehyung since armys can only seem to move for others and always ignore all the injustice he had to go through 1. Geffen had time to acknowledge every other members single but nothing for LMA & Rainy Days 2. Slow dancing going missing from billboard global charts (mind you it was the Taehyung Fans who trended on X and then they rectified their mistake) 3. Two fake Slow Dancing songs wrongly credited as Slow Dancing on youtube music, Spotify, Qobuz, Amazon and affecting the original song sales and streams. This never happened to other artists. 4. Putting a high price for Slow Dancing piano version affecting his sales And Not making it available on BTS US Store 5. Giving us digital single for friends which didnt count for billboard charts And then giving incorrect preorders link I can go one with this list to expose the company and their favouritism but some will still choose to be blind and trust this stupid video MIND YOU no artist choose to sabotaged
@Happydaysxox
@Happydaysxox Ай бұрын
@@Alva3112 you guys keep mentioning Hybe sabotage but why would they knowing the tannies are the ones who bring them in the most revenue?? I acknowledge there’s been things that could have been done better but a lot of that wasn’t down to Hybe alone. When you only support one of them and your tl is mostly full of solos complaining how would you see when Armys are helping/supporting? I’ve seen so many army help and support and trend for members but solos always say they don’t. They really need to get out of their bubble and open their eyes and also realize the members aren’t kids they are adults and stop victimising them and if they weren’t happy with things they wouldn’t be there and if it was soooo bad they would have left a long time ago.
@EecO7Jnp
@EecO7Jnp Ай бұрын
I don’t understand you want people to think the members are incompetent juveniles yet proclaim to support them. You can’t do both.
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 Ай бұрын
​@@EecO7Jnpyou think members are bigger than hybe?? That company owns them they have power to ruin their whole image if they go against them
@Alva3112
@Alva3112 Ай бұрын
@@EecO7Jnp either you are too naive or dumb to say this anyhow I don’t interact with company Stans who can’t see the clear FACTS
@EecO7Jnp
@EecO7Jnp Ай бұрын
@@ssev4026 I think they are grown capable men. Not victims. The victim narrative is fan made. The members shares and BangPD shares are majority so its is actually the other way. Members and Bang PD own HYBE. If they are slaves as you say they would not have passed the military exam as competent independent persons.
@brendaayelenpizarro8179
@brendaayelenpizarro8179 Ай бұрын
Considero que no todos tuvieron el apoyo de la compañía,no estoy del todo de acuerdo con el vídeo. Por ejemplo,JIMIN en una entrevista dijo que quería hacer un video por cada canción de su álbum FACE y la empresa se lo negó,por lo que me deja la duda de si al resto de los miembros les negaron cosas también. Respeto las opiniones de todos,más no estoy de acuerdo.
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Ай бұрын
Time and budget which they all had to be aware of which is normal very very normal look at Jin he wanted to have a much bigger hug fest but BigHit thought about his safety his personal safety and the safety of the fans. So they did what they could and tried to make it safe and still one fan did something she shouldn't have done. That's the role of your management time to advise you. Now think about it Jimin made 2 album's Face and Muse in that short time. He had a huge budget and he had to learn to work within it he had a time frame and had to work within it just like the other members did. Look how much he did it was vast.
@Bangtanarmy477
@Bangtanarmy477 Ай бұрын
Bro he had two albums and time wasn't enough that's why hybe did that
@outrolars
@outrolars Ай бұрын
doing all that work (even if they enjoy it) will make them still overwork especially when they have to do it within a timeframe. solos will know of this and their new narrative will be "hyBe Is eXplOitinG (member name) aNd mAkIng HiM dO aLl tHis WorK". all of the members are responsible for what they want to do but the management is there to support while also considering practicality.
@MaeMae888
@MaeMae888 Ай бұрын
I agree in some respect however you cannot change my mind on what’s happening and what the company is doing to V. V faced a lot of sabotage compared to the members . Starting with : 1. Sandwiching his Album with JK’s all English songs that are both highly marketed with multiple versions and remixes. It would’ve fine until the antis and Tae haters started to use this to mock him and disregard the success of his Album by calling it a “flop”. Comparing a Slow Korean, r&b, bluesy, jazzy, lowfi, soul EP to JK all English , poppy , Full Album that’s designed for easy music consumption 2. Hybe understocking his Album which made him lose the record to but (but he was still credited for breaking a 23 yr record for selling 2M Album sold and doing it in under 6 hrs) - there was even an article talking about how Hybe underestimated V’s selling power by understocking his Album and meanwhile they have 5M albums available for their other group 3. Geffen didn’t announce or promote layover as they did other members 4. Bighit twitter didn’t change their account page to Layover until they got called out by Tae fans . They still have Jack in the Box when it was already Layover turn. It went on for almost 2 weeks after Layover came out but they changed their page to JK’s Golden the moment Layover promo was over 5. Bighit scheduled a supposed “listening” party for Layover but forgot about it - got called out so they re-scheduled 6. Billboard removing Tae’s songs on the charts and when got called out they apologized for the mistake and put Tae’s songs back 7. Spotify deleting streams 8. KZbin “accidentally” deleting Taehyung’s account with all his subscribers, Army’s called them out and asked for them to fix it . They did weeks into the Layover promo period which was very important for tracking period for Awards 9. Fans receiving “Seven cd” instead of Layover 10. Hybe not promoting or posting about Tae’s ambassadorships but post for all the members . They only did for Cartier when Tae fans called them out for it since Tae’s picture for Cartier was the only one that wasn’t in their account but the other members pictures with their Brands are on it 11. Fans called out Hybe/Bighit For not having a “This is V” account on Spotify and All the members has it when it is important and easy for streaming purposes and to see all his discography. “This is V” account was finally added more than halfway through his promo period 12. Only member that didn’t even have a single US interview to promote his Album . Not even a remote one. RM had one even though he didn’t go to the US to promote personally 13. V is the Idol that has the most Fancams that exceed 10M views each . Hybe deleted a couple of his videos claiming “copyright issues” as a reason for them to remove it. Yet all the other members Fancams of the same video are still up 14. Fancam view count have been deleted 15. Layover is the only Album not included in Hybe account to show members solo albums 16. Hybe never promoted Tae’s solo endeavors as prominently as they did other members 17. Tae’s songs are credited to other artists There’s more that I can’t think of right now. But no one can ever convince me that it’s not sabotage or lackluster support from the company . Or just “bad luck “ or “V’s choice bec members have a say” . It’s ridiculous!. There is a reason why Tae said “ despite his relationship with the company, he signed the contract to see the members smile “.
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
Are solos even listening to themselves? 1. Seven was dropped as a solo independent project. There is no "sandwiching". JK wanted to be a big global Popstar but Taehyung didn't. Wrong music for it, too. It's more "niche". 2. HYBE didn't "understook". The retailers did. They make their own choices how much they pre-order. And if you had paied attention that is what happened to pretty much all albums this year. I remember Jimin solos crying on social media but it happened in downgrading also to say Seventeen, JK, aespa, Stray Kids etc. . context, please. 3. Well, no. Why should they? It is not a good album for the general US market only for US Army. The general music audience in Japan is different in their taste then the US GP. Taehyung choose not to promote in the US and that includes this. 4. You think this is important? Really. Next wou will tell me X is real. It isn't. So someone forgot to change it in time. This has nothing to do with Taehyung solos and their wish. 5. It may have been Taehyung's promotion but a lot of it was handled by MHJ and she had definetly different priorities. 6.BB has nothing to do with what BH/HYBE does. Where do you get that nonsense? We have only seen a lot of BS concerning the members and BTS by them. Case in point when Jimin's song "lost" about 100 000 sales or when suddenly Lisa was announced the most consumed K-pop star - it was JK and if you dropped collabs it should have been Hoseok. 7. Spotify ALWAYS deletes streams. Do you not pay attention? Butter's streams were cut in half. 8. Taehuyng does not have an account on youtube. Neither has any of the members. What they have is a "topic" per member - which for unknown reason got lost. It may have been a glitch or sabotage but not by BH/HYBE or the members. 9. Did they? Or did someone make that up? Because that is the first time I have heard of that. If it happened it may have happened to one or two people not more. Otherwise it would have had articles written about it. 10. How do you know? You know after all nothing of what happened with the other members. Sounds like something made up nor is that important - other maybe for angsty Taehung solo teens who project themselves on him too hard. What has that do with his success or music? Does not sound that different as Jimin solo crying about him not getting a cake for hitting No. 1 or Hobi stans complaining of not getting a physical CD. 11. Spotify. Actually V had a an account before Jimin debuted as he had already dropped music before. Jimin was the last to get an account when he collabed on Vibe I think. Again I find your complaint strange. 12. See above and vid. It's not intersting music for the general US public and it was a Taehyung choice - there are no English versions - other than For Us - but that is also not necessary interesting to a US GP audience. Should the others complain that he was the only one promoting in Japan? The second biggest market in the world? 13. Really? If they deleted - and it was not done by an anti or made up - there probably were problems. But frankly it sounds like something solos made up or haters invented to sick the solos on each other/make money by sending trucks and collecting money for it. Nice scam and works brilliantly. Or maybe there were cheating in the streams - that has been a recent problam with a lot of K-pop fans. But frankly I doubt that theyy were deleted in the first place. 14. Did they? Than it happens to everyoe else, too. Not that it is actually important. 15. Wrong. The site also has Winter Bear, Snow Flower and Scenery. Yes, I did look. 16. They promoted him the way he wanted to just not the way *YOU* wanted them to. Taehyung did not have to sign 3 times but he did. He choose to. But again the promotions were in a lot of ways handled by MHJ together with Taehyung. 17. They are credited to other artists because he did not make the music/wrote the lyrics or produced it. He choose to use someone else's songs not his own. Why I do not know. Maybe he was to insecure about it. It is not like JK did not do the same thing. Both have written music for years and wanted to drop mixtapes but seem to have discarded everything they have written or changed them into different projects. That I even have to write this post shows how bonkers solos accusations are. Inform yourself of the context, please, before you prove yourself a f* . Nobody but solos care about this minor points or they are completly out of the hand of BH/HYBE.
@MaeMae888
@MaeMae888 Ай бұрын
@@ruthfischer7615 Say what you want ! Of course you are going to be against it because it’s not your fave(s) that’s affected! You said there was no “sandwiching but why release Seven in July as a “single” then 3D a few days after Layover promotion is done! Isn’t that not sandwiching? What is the purpose of it? To get a headstart on streams? Because they know the song will have several versions to it already ? To think that is will be included in the Album anyway . They didn’t market it as a “pre-release” to Golden Album .because they can’t say that now can they. Tae was up next after Suga ! So they promoted it as a single! 3D can be considered a pre-release because it was already after Layover and it was already the Golden promo period! So if you think about it ! JK actually have 2 main songs in his Album! Seven and SNTY. With 2 big US debuts! While all the members only had 1 debut! Then the nerve of the JJK akgaes to mock Tae for it and You were fine with that? You didn’t see that??? Undermining Tae’s success and accomplishments without thinking that or giving him credit for accomplishing what he accomplished with only 1 version and 2 remixes of his main song and Not a gazillion of it . There was even an article that came out about Hybe releasing different versions of JK songs to have better chance of ranking higher in the charts! Look it up! As for the other parts, billboard , Spotify and KZbin it still happened ! Deleting of streams , might’ve been an issue with Spotify but with Billboard actually removing his songs in the chart? When he owned 10% of BB sales chart when his Album came out and being the First and only Kpop soloist to chart ALL of his tracks on BB and all of a sudden the top 2 songs were deleted but not his other songs, Say what you will . But I don’t see all these happening as “accidents” it all happened to him one after the next . That’s also during his whole promotional period. You said “other members had problems with streaming getting deleted blah blah but what “ side tracks” or “issues” that happened to the other members was NOTHING compared to V’s! Without a loyal fanbase , no Idol could’ve survived that sabotage! You know that tracking for sales , streams and views are done for Awards right? And everything that I mentioned has a big effect of “tracking “ for Tae. For Tae’s songs getting credited to other artists I am not talking about who wrote the lyrics and stuff . I’m talking about actually having a different artists name and not Taehyung but it’s his song ! Again you don’t know about that because you are obviously not his fan! It doesn’t bother you as well that Hybe don’t promote Tae’s other projects but promoted other members ? Are you aware that Tae has about 60 solo contents since hiatus? Of course that includes his Layover Promotions . 60! SIXTY! How many of those projects has the company promoted or posted ? Tell me? And OT6 had the nerve to call him lazy when he had the most activity and content of all of the members! You say Label Twitter account and other accounts I talked about etc doesn’t really matter or are not important. If it doesn’t matter then why promote other members fully but just lackluster for Tae? How hard is it to do the Dane thing for all member why skimp on only one member! So you think that Tae fans are being petty because of that! It’s petty to point out an obvious mistreatment? It’s wrong to ask for fairness and equal treatment of all members? Huh? It’s also ok with you that Tae was always excluded or “forgotten” in several Hybe posts about members projects and stuff? It’s ok with you that Hybe deleted Tae’s Fancams saying it’s because of copyright issues! One is even for a 6 yr old fancam??? Home come all the other members Fancams of the same exact performance were still up? How come it’s only Tae? Again that’s fine with you ? Not including Tae’s Album in the Hybe account but all the other members albums were there except for Layover? Again Hybe was called out for it and to be honest I don’t even know yet if they finally included his Album! Don’t give me the stupid excuse that it’s MHJ that produced it so maybe that’s why Hybe did not include it on their account! That a bunch of crap! It’s BTS solo Albums! Tae is part of BTS! Again . That’s ok with you? Also the Spotify account that I was talking about is not the accounts fans made for the members . It’s an official account with the blue seal on it! For months V was the only one that didn’t have it. All 6 members HAD IT! It’s an EXCLUSIVE PLAYLIST that each member had Except for V! There’s even an article about that as well! I am not talking about who opened their accounts first . We know that Tae opened his back in 2016 bec he had 1 OST song from Hwarang . He had only that for yrs until he released 2 more OST’s in 2020and 2021! And even made records with only 3 unpromoted OST’s . Even his song Fri(end)s has no alternative covers, no physical CDs, ADs/playlisting, no any promotion in USA . It’s an English song right? How they didn’t pre-record a US promo for that ? It’s fine with you as well that Hybe never posted about Tae’s Ambassadorships yet posts for other members? Hybe a lot of times will “promote “ or post a Tae project when and if they get called out! Why just Tae all the time! Some fans even think that it might have something to do with Hybe trying to Trademark “Borahae” as their property . Too bad for them the Korean Intellectual Property denied them 3x saying that the rightful owner of “Borahae “ is Kim Taehyung. Now a lot of the OT6 stopped using that and started using Apobangpo instead (Hybe even put a sign on their bldg at one point) . BORAHAE THE NAME AND COLOR (purple) that became synonymous to BTS they want to just erase? How dumb is that! Notice that during Jin’s show after release the banners were more pink than purple? It could be because it’s Jin favorite color but when did that ever happen? BTS has always been Purple since Tae started “Borahae “! So we’ll see . It could just be that one time. We’ll see if they do that for JHope when he comes out from the Military. Thank God Tae has a lot of loyal fans! That makes sure that he is treated fairly and the same as the other members ! But then again . You don’t give a crap because your faves are fine !
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
@@MaeMae888 Seven is a summer song. There is no hiding that. It had to drop than. But like Dynamite coming onto the Be album it was not a given that it would drop on Golden, too. It was independent and it was not on purpose - it had something to do with both Taehyung and JK deciding so late what kind of music they wanted to drop. That was unfortunate. And if you paid attention you would know that all solos of all the members had "reasons" to complain. That does not make any of them right. Seven was never ment to be a pre-release - 3D maybe - but not Seven. But again: It is a typical summer song and won awards as such. Do you really expect a Korean R&B song to make the same numbers as an English mainstream Pop song? Taehyung did not want to be a big Popstar like Harry Styles but JK did. Different ambitions for different people. Like I said I see no difference between solos. They all complain about mostly nonsense - well - they are right as far as BB, youtube, Spotify & radio is mainly concerned. But that is true for the group and all of them as soloists. Neither as BTS or alone do they play the dirty game. (and in the same way Taehyung solos hit back at JK solos for "payola" 🙄) You really do not pay attention if you think the BB, youtube, Spotify & radio BS is new and concerns only one artists. Jimin solos for example complained about the split in counting between the English version and the Korean version of Like Crazy - seemingly driven because one name - a songwriter I think - was erased from one version which led to a drop in charting. And I think there was also a Yoongi song attributed to another Suga. Because to a degree these companies don't care or even dislike the intrusion in their market and them not playing the game their way which may lead to active sabotage. How would you know what kind of content the other members had? You do not care enough to actually pay attention to them from what I see. They all worked their butt of. BH/HYBE promoted the stuff that had to do with them - nevermind that from what I remember the members themselves can and will post their stuff on their official social media. Let me point out that MHJ was responsible for the branding - in so far Taheyung let her - and she dropped the first few MVs of NJ without any pre-releases/trailers. She just dropped them no promotion/no warning and it worked. There are always different tactics to promote. Another example is BP wo barely drop any music and are still thought the most successfull K-pop girl group. Some people think they did more fashion than music or were "lazy". And still they were/are very successfull. If someone is "stupid" not to realize that going to MHJ for help with the album would also influence the promo it is you. Pay attention how she did stuff. That is the same with the OST or songs like Dreamers - completly the problem of other labels to promote and ADOR does stuff differently than BH. Nevermind that I'm under the impression BH also had nothing to do with JK's promo - that was on HYBE America/Scooter Braun. I'm also not talking about fan accounts on Spotify. Taehyung already had dropped music. Not to mention that his V account has 5,6 million monthly listeners and This is V only has 401.763 saves. Not sure that the later is that important. I very much doubt HYBE deleted anything. But I do believe that Taehyung haters or black marketers of MHJ claimed that this was their content and it was stolen to please take it down. Most of the stuff is back up because the actual owners of the fancams complained that this stuff is theirs and that the other complainers are NOT the owners. Like I said this happened before. It may stop happening for a while at least if MHJ actually leaves HYBE. FRI(END)S is a gift. Hoseok's song "On the Street (with J. Cole) also had practical no promotion. It was a surprise that Jimin's Closer than This also dropped on his new album - months later - it had no promotion either and with when it dropped it was pretty much overtaken by the Christmas music fast. Maybe Taehyung's song will also be on his next album. Let's hope so. And it seems you missed the entire laundry lists by the solos of other members that complained exactly the same for what was not done/not promoted/done wrong for their fav. They read in it's spirit exactly the same... made by people who have no idea how anything works but want certain stuff because they have seen it somewhere and they want it, too, while convinently forgetting that they also got stuff that the others didn't. People are using Apobangpo because there is absolutly no copyright on Borahae. Taehyung is not going to file for it and solos blocked HYBE from getting it - which means others can use it and make money with it which they do. That is why HYBE filled for copyright in the first place - because while Taehyung mentioned it he is NOT going to file for it - likely because he does not actually care that much: Someone else tried to do so for a compaign for their company. Luckily they were forbidden from it. Which does not mean that they won't do it again or that somewhere else someone is blocked from doing so. It would not surprise me if borahae is actually copyrighted by someone somewhere else - who will make money with it. ARMY decided not to play into other peoples hands and their money till the phrase is copyrighted: either by Taehyung or BH/HYBE. But it does not look like Taehyung is going to do it and HYBE can't anymore. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Bangtanarmy477
@Bangtanarmy477 Ай бұрын
@@MaeMae888 y'all should stream layover instead of victimizing yourself...blame Jungkook all you want but it won't change the fact that he's getting streams...so you should go and stream love me again and help tae in real to get 1b
@lilyn2949
@lilyn2949 3 күн бұрын
@@ruthfischer7615 i am not a solo but i did notice bts bcoz of V and now love all of them, V gripped my attention but their friendship keeps me...and objectively speaking i really can see the difference of hybe treatment towards V is undeniably underwhelming compared to others... and i think u r being a bit biased....i know anyone can see and feel and discern this, i just wish u were a bit honest....just saying... instead of being a hybe/bang apologist...i think bts was massively successful bcoz of their love for eo and ever since their solo activities the fandom is shredding itself...if only the company at least treated them equally....maybe it would've helped but honestly bts/army is losing its charm, i loved the camaraderie between the boyz and the fans, now? It is a mess, i wish they stopped chasing after numbers and fame and cared more about the connection between the fans, i wish the fans stopped comparing that numbers too, however much streams or whatever... who cares, calling them flop or success...that dun mean anything to me, i loved bts for who they r not how many streams they have....i listen to their songs bcoz i want to not to artificially increase streams...i love them being themseves not acting to be on army's good side...i want them to be free not care for numbers and money....just be happy, coz that makes me happy
@tanyasri1113
@tanyasri1113 Ай бұрын
React to BTS INDIAN INTERVIEW BY SAKSHMA SRIVASTAVA
@silvanasciullo2835
@silvanasciullo2835 Ай бұрын
MR REX WITH YOUR OPINION BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE TREATED AS V HAS BEEN TREATED IF IT WAS YOU.
@Sergeant_Jin
@Sergeant_Jin Ай бұрын
The agency and label are terrible, lol
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
Show me a better one. Because that does not exist. It's just that insecure solos did not get the promo and music THEY wanted. The members are not doormats. They got what THEY wanted.
@bhavna7707
@bhavna7707 Ай бұрын
Rex u need to get a little bit info on hybe nd you'll understand they deserve getting dragged including bang si hyuk. Read soemthing about bang si hyuk and new jeans ceo min heejin chaos u will know why i am saying he is vile
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Ай бұрын
No he is not in fact it's the other way around. She's a snake in the grass and I for one can't wait until she's removed from the company and has to goes to prison for her crimes.
@proximus6349
@proximus6349 Ай бұрын
​@@eileencritchley4630 y'all are really brainless atp, it's 2024 and bang pd still has shooters
@EecO7Jnp
@EecO7Jnp Ай бұрын
I have read and watched. MHJ is an idiot and NJ are spoiled brats. They deserve each other.
@hanam.4778
@hanam.4778 Ай бұрын
진짜 뭔가 확실히 알아야 될사람은 당신인것같네요... 저는 태어나서 민희진처럼 사악한사람은 본적이없습니다. 입에서 나오는 한마디 한마디가 너무나 천박하고, 하는말이 모두가 거짓말이었음이 그녀의 카카오톡 내용으로 다 밝혀졌습니다. 그런데 아직도 뻔뻔하게 발뺌을하고있죠! 지금 문제의 그 무속인 행방을 감췄습니다.. 지금 재판중이기때문에 증인소환될수있으니 증거 인멸을 위해 숨긴거로 밖에 보이지 않네요... 제대로 번역이 될지 모르겠지만 ...
@EecO7Jnp
@EecO7Jnp Ай бұрын
@@hanam.4778 True True True
@proximus6349
@proximus6349 Ай бұрын
Y'all are deceiving yourselves really. Hybe has become a money hungry company, does all the things for money. Hybe shove their fav members down our throats while neglecting some members but yall will say it is members' choice for everything. What an easy way to escape arguments. If what yall are saying is true then wow, how greedy is Jungkook, a cheap pop star, jb wannabe
@user-nh5iz8xu7y
@user-nh5iz8xu7y Ай бұрын
Yes because all of them are puppets and only do what the company wants. ridiculous; continue deluding yourself, cause please tell me who is being neglected and how. I am guessing you didn’t watch the video and you are just spouting nonsense after reading the title.
@proximus6349
@proximus6349 Ай бұрын
@@user-nh5iz8xu7y just today tae's most viewed fancams are being deleted one by one, what is the reason tell me. Copyrights? They don't have rights on other members' fancams i guess. Also no not all of them do what the company wants which is why the treatment has never been equal.
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 Ай бұрын
@@proximus6349 It is equal but that does not mean the same. For all we know that is a. not true at all or b. taken down by Antis by reporting them. (a few years ago Indian haters took pretty much BTS official and fan channels down on twitter by claiming it was their content beginning I believe with a selfie from Yoongi) Solos love to make up stuff to be mad about especially since they have no idea how it works and it is not what THEY wanted. They never consider that maybe it is what the member in question wanted. Do yourself a favor and get information from people that are not outright hating/making money from hating others/HYBE/BH/BTS/the members. Not one member was neglected or cheap. The members all encouraged JK to do what he wanted. Yoongi for example on Suchwita and Namjoon at the showcase in Seoul.
@proximus6349
@proximus6349 Ай бұрын
@@ruthfischer7615 i stopped taking you seriously the moment you said maybe that is what the member in question wanted. That's the best excuse yall will use for ANY problem happening to him. Even after the fancams were deleted armys said it is maybe what tae wanted lmao i won't write paragraphs cuz i know nothing will get into that head of yours you will still continue to defend whatever the company does. But at least don't ignore what tae said himself "Regardless of the relationship with my agency, i signed the contract to see the members smile."
@charmelgrant3871
@charmelgrant3871 Ай бұрын
JK VERY LOVELY SWEET YOUNG MAN! FULL OF TALENTS. All seven are talented in their own way. Don’t diss any, they are brothers , I know not blood.
@elizabethbenson9019
@elizabethbenson9019 Ай бұрын
What a good video. 💜👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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