The Budget Fluke? Noyafa NF-8601 Unboxing & Review

[@Rom3oDelta7]

Nice video, thanks. A few comments: 1. The user manual section you showed means that you can use the continuity test on a live network cable. SInce the lines are connected internally, they show as "shorts" if they are connected. If they are not connected (shorted), then there is a problem with the cable. 2. This unit is also available on Amazon as a KOLSOL AT226-C, which I purchased. The same as the Noyafa, but with 8 remote units instead of 1 (for the same cost at of the time of my purchase). 3. I found the user interface to be a bit wonky. In particular, I found it hard to enter small increments when calibrating the cable length. You had to press the up/down arrow very quickly and lightly to get a small increment/decrement. 4. The point of showning the length for each wire is to determine where a potential break might be if 1+ leads are broken somewhere along the cable length. 5. You might mention that the Scan function has 3 modes: low frequency, high frequency, and POE. The scan wand needs to be matched to the selected mode. This is explained in the manual. 6. Any cable certification tool is going to the VERY expensive. No where near even the price of s Fluke tester. 7. I've used a Fluke tester for work, and it is a much better unit, but this is a much greater value (and where I chose to spend my own money).

[@MrAdamJoel]

My partner and I both own the previous models put out by this company. We’ve worked 1000s of jobs for 5 years. We can’t believe the value and durability. This model here has even more features, though maybe not well executed. I just pulled the trigger on a 2k tester that can “certify” runs. Finally changing with the times. Will still use our testers from this computer for day to day toning and testing.

[@zactodd3144]

Just through my own use of this model I can confirm... 1. The PoE works well, the first thing to remember (as mentioned in this video) is to connect to the PoE port on the side of the unit. Tested 24v, 48v and 52v Poe with results within expected parameters... Including 802.3af/at 2. Cable length requires calibration on cables longer than 20m for accuracy. 3. When doing a port test with remote, the main unit will send a beep to the remote... Would have preferred an LED, but still cool (I got the unit with multiple remotes) 4. DHCP doesn't work well. If you know the IP range and Target, easy to set, but most of my networks are using rstp, so might have a cause (I have gotten a DHCP lease one time only, more testing needed) 5. The Tone source is far too strong. If you turn on and set sensitivity to high, you will get a tone from around a meter away from the unit (even through a person). Sensitivity can be reduced to help alleviate the over signal, and if you are going to a port, you can then use a remote (as mentioned in the video) Not a bad unit, but to note is that it is quite flimsy on the front side, I had in my pocket and was leaning over a ledge. A bit of weight on it and I broke the LCD. Is a fairly common 2.8" with a 40pin connector, but was soldered on. Managed to get if fixed though. Takeaway, personally worth what I paid (~$80 USD), time will tell if it goes well overall. Certainly more functional than the ~$800 USD fluke we got for work (didn't have PoE). My background, wireless Technician servicing ~500 sites, I feel this tool is going to be good for my work, as long as I don't break another screen (although got another spare :p)

[@xaviernadalsgelectronics7047]

DHCP no funciona bien, verificado.

[@JuzzyQld]

Where and when does it tell you which remote you are testing?

[@jsedmonds256]

The length test showing all wires is useful since a wire/wires that are cut or shorted would show up on this test.

[@jonboy5050]

One of the other Noyafa videos mentioned the cable length tester was for catching breaks in the cable, and to show you approximately where the break was. Your cable had no breaks so all the lengths were the same.

[@Heizenberg32]

There is always a small difference in length between the different pairs in UTP/STP cable. This is because each pair is twisted at a different rate (the number of twists per inch) to reduce crosstalk. Over, say, 100 ft of cable the pair with the tightest twist may be multiple feet longer than the pair with the least-tight twist. If the tester is showing them all of the exact same length it is either not very accurate, or it it's not actually measuring the length of each pair individually.

[@nilpo]

That section means that a good cable with test as shorted when plugged into a switch. This is because a switch does short the pairs.

[@oneBoredFish]

From watching their official vidoes, I believe what that part of the manual means is that: they ran a special test with an RJ45 coupler that was intentionally shorted to show that it can detect shorts. The cable is still good because it was their test coupler that was producing the result of shorted wire. Their official video shows them using several different couplers with simulated issues to prove it can detect those specific issues.

[@PlymouthVT]

Just bought one of these off ebay brand new for $ 120. Its pretty cool can link to a swx pull an ip and full cat5-6 cable marker metrics got a cat 5 & BNC TDR and the really cool thing the tweedler is super powerful I mean it can hear a tweedle when your 3 feet away from the end of the cable. Thats really cool when your busting your ass trying to find a cable in trough or in the floor. Its got flash port too that works great. For $120 it cannot be beat. I'll keep my expensive Fluke in the truck and beat this things balls off first.

[@renedosr]

3:36 I believe that what they mean is this. An ethernet connector at the switch or LAN card is connected to the ethernet chipset using an ethernet coupling transformer. At DC or at low frequencies, the ethernet transformer appears as a short circuit. If you use a multimeter to test the resistance between a pair of ethernet signal wires, you will get a low resistance (short). If you use a cable tester and the cable is plugged at one end into a switch, if your cable tester cannot detect the switch, then your cable tester will show a short circuit even if the cable is good.

[@vallorahn]

Mine broke in a year. does not show correct remote numbers anymore and wiremaps. POE/Ping port is the only port that still works. I got a Trend Networks VDVII Pro instead. Used. It can do digital signaling/probing. They sell used testers with warranty. It looked new. I just ordered their cloud connected POE Pro as an upgrade. Also used. cost around 450€. I know its 3x but it'll never break and they will service it until I have it.

[@I2amOK]

I am going to try and translate what the manual is trying to say about the connection to a switch. This wire mapping result shows a cable that's connected to a switch. The result is good though it shows short but that's how the tester and switch talks. IMO - This test is pretty much a continuity test where testing if current goes through one strand of wire and returns on another which technically is a short. ie current goes out through the blue cable and comes back through the blue and white indicating the cable is going into some electric conductor at the terminated end of the cable then return. Depending on the corresponding line it returns then you know if it's a switch or true short on the line. Pairs 4 and 5 should show loop, etc.

[@rizkyp]

I always wonders what tester like this does as i only use a cheap lan tester with blinking 8 lights.

[@Animalwon]

I picked up a similar model , with the same feature but it only cost me $40, Including shipping (Free) on Ebay around May 2020. Very interesting how much prices have dropped but YES, these budget devices are extremely useful in a home or smal office setting where you can afford to spend too much on equipment like this.

[@japacapa]

I'm trying to understand what's the use of that 'port flash' option ( 5:01 ), but your explanation got me quite confused :/ If I connect one end of the cable to a switch/router, then why would I need this tester to tell me which port on the switch/router it's plugged into...

[@BudgetNerd]

It helps you find which cable it is that's plugged into the router or switch. It's intended to be used when you don't know what cable it is that's plugged into the router or switch.

[@MetallixX974]

Hi there ! Great video i decided also to buy one for use in a high school.

[@chrismak8581]

very nice product.. lot of features.. but not good tracer.. beeping everywhere either i decreased the sensitivity very low

[@Yaardy316]

Thank you Sir! Great video!

[@avocadomangos]

What are the newer models and the better options out there?

[@pdsmart]

Did you look at the NF-388 at all? I'm just doing my new home. They guy that built it out went crazy with all of the coax, RJ11, RJ45, etc. The closet isn't patched at all and I was thinking of doing it myself. It's just a crazy mess of wires draped down into the closet.

[@BudgetNerd]

+Parker Smart I did not check that one out.

[@pdsmart]

I'll let you know if it works. I've seen a few "fail" videos so I'm hopeful. I'm already expecting the manual to be no help.

[@EdMorph]

Two question, is able to identify which side of the connectors is badly crimped or just indicates error in the respective wire. And if the wire is crossed it indicates the respective crossing

[@BudgetNerd]

It won't tell you which connector or where the fault is,. But you can get a general idea of where the fault is with the length test. It will indicate which wire is faulty and it will show any wire crossings.

[@magicrayray]

Very nice review. Rather than reading the instructions I just watched your video.

[@JuzzyQld]

Will this test for shield? in the case of S/FTP? Where and when does it tell you which remote you are testing?

[@fk319fk]

I bought one for maybe $20, some years ago. All it does is send power down one line and then I can see a light come on. I have a remote unit when doing wall installs. While your unit is cool, mine is good enough for me. As for battery life, I do not recall every changing my batteries.

[@LeifNelandDk]

The length measurement is good, because you can see if the fault is in either end, or somebody put a screw through the cable in the middle.

[@Anuxr]

Is there any difference between this model and Noyafa-704? I know the second one is intended for CCTV but I wonder if it includes the same functions as the model reviewed in your video (plus, obviusly, CCTV functions)...

[@BudgetNerd]

+Anuar Cárdenas not sure. I never got my hands on that model.

[@Maryan865]

Hi, I own this device model. how can i reset them? (if there is a possibility) I have a problem, when I want to measure the length of the cable it tells me that I have more meters than the one I know. for example a 5m UTP cable tells me it has 9.1m. Thanks

[@noyafasophia9646]

hello ,is the model still on your hand?If you meet the problem of measuring cable length ,pls try to calibration it.

[@davids1618]

My unit does not keep the settings when turned off. Have to change meters to feet everytime. Also, the length testing is nor accurate. And, if length is calibrated, it needs re-calibrated when powered on again.

[@andrzejkowalski3122]

Did shows which side (meter or remote) has pins reverse(crossover)?

[@crazychevelleman]

Wondering... if the cat6 cable was bad or wired wrong, could I still locate which cable it is in the network room?

[@BudgetNerd]

Depends on what is wrong with the cable. It probably would as long as most of the cable was intact. If it was severed somewhere, then no.

[@dr.anthonrijkardcortes565]

Question, I have a renovation that has a ton of network cables, a ton of power cables and telephone lines and a door bell system. I have to figure out where all the cables go, or where do they come from. Most of the network cables are labeled, but the power cables and the door bell system are not. Worse off, I have to rewire some rooms for power from one breaker switch panel to another. So, can this unit help me? Mainly I need to ID cables in the rooms throughout the building (several even in different floors) to where they are connected in the electric breakers panel in the basement. I know that I need to have a cable disconnected from the electric power grid and the switches off to properly ID each line, but, could I connect the 8 remote units in the rooms, then go to the panel downstairs and ID each remote unit in the basement?

[@BudgetNerd]

This unit for sure can help with the telephone line, Ethernet, and coaxial cable you need to id. It won't help with power though.

[@Maryan865]

Hello. how many A (mA) and how many volts is that plug adapter? thanks

[@BudgetNerd]

5V at 1Amp

[@Maryan865]

Budget Nerd Thank you. a wonderful day

[@mattnolan12]

does this unit tone over poe? for instance: if you are trying to identify/trace a cable that is plugged into the Poe switch port already

[@mattnolan12]

because i have this issue with my fluke 3500 toner

[@BudgetNerd]

I haven't tested that specific thing, but I'm thinking it should.

[@trob0914]

This is a good basic video. I have this unit as a backup to other devices and I recently noticed that "MAPPING" appears not to be working correctly (MISMATCHED & CROSSED) on a correct straight thru cable regardless whether the cable is attached back to the main unit or a remote. I've seen reset/restore videos on KZbin but nothing seems to work. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks again.

[@IsmaelMora12]

Did you ever find the answer to this? I experience the same, thx.

[@trob0914]

@@IsmaelMora12 Nope, chalk it up to a bad unit!

[@dilbeek4022]

Hi Budget Nerd, is this tester still working for you? Looks as its functions are exactly what I need, but it is rather difficult to find first hand experience information on the net about this tester. Only some posts about it failing withing a couple of months after purchase, so I was wondering if you had the same experience or if yours was still working fine.

[@BudgetNerd]

I've only used it on a few projects. But so far it's been great. I haven't had any issues.

[@dilbeek4022]

@@BudgetNerd Thank you for your quick answer :)

[@alvinhunter9595]

I'm bought it it's cool just not very durable I think that it has a digital toner function on it because I tried turning it out with my fluke analog toner and it cannot pick up the tone from the device that may be a pretty good Advantage for this guy considering everything else that it does for the cheap price but since I move around a lot I need something that is very durable so I will be sending mine back

[@TitoTheGeek]

Does it really always show the same length for all lines of the cable? I would have thought that feature is usefull to find where a pair is damaged along the cable

[@BudgetNerd]

+Tito1337 that is a great question! Wire mapping can show which ones are bad, but I took a cable and cut it in spots and tested it for length and they were different. So if the cable is bad then it would show different lengths.

[@LeifNelandDk]

@@BudgetNerd , The cable tester can indeed show different length on different pairs, very useful to see if you just need to fix the plug/socket in either end or replace the whole cable because somebody put a screw through it.

[@robertochieng1705]

I really don't need the cable tester to give me switch port speeds. I can log into the switch to get that info.

[@bsc285]

what happens when the battery dies? Can it be replaced being that its integrated. That's the only thing stopping me from buying this unit. Other models which are less expensive with similar functions require batteries like 9v or 3A or 2A batteries. That way 3 to 4 years down the line if the batteries die, you replace them. Tell me what you think. Thanks

[@BudgetNerd]

+bsc285 not suppose to be replaceable im sure. But if you are handy, you could open it up and swap them.

[@bsc285]

Budget Nerd, I finally bought this unit, and am loving it but I only have one issue. When ever I use it to trace a cable, it often beeps between 3 to 4 cables, and its very annoying. I have an old tracer and that sucker pin points the exact port or cable that I am trying to find. Have you come across with this issue? I have adjusted the sensitivity but that doesn't help. I don't know if maybe I have a defective probe/tracer? What has been your experience with the scanning/probe?

[@BudgetNerd]

+bsc285 I've found that it does often make a noise on several cables at times. But I normally would figure it out which one was it. I wouldn't say yours is bad.. just sort if the way they are. I found the sensitivity dial helped.. most if the time..

[@frankrizzo8108]

Got it for data export.

[@ForbiddenUser403]

Wish it didn't have that damn BNC connector on top.. Just the impression I want to give to my customers.. That I work with 30-year-old networking technology..

[@philindeblanc]

Most network providers use BNC to feed the locations.

[@Etacovda63]

Bnc is still used for analog cctv

[@solusfides]

BNC is also used in modern commercial SDI video connections. Precisely what I need.

[@philindeblanc]

We are Forbidding you use it! ;-) (I never liked BNC myself)

[@kensingh9527]

Still commonly used by ISPs and even by new cameras like those nifty ones from Lorex.

[@Henry_Jones]

Id want one thet can do a speed test.

[@tinkmarshino]

well done!

[@dr.anthonrijkardcortes565]

Thank you for your advise. What should I use for the power lines then?

[@BudgetNerd]

That I am not sure.

[@MFATubed]

I use mostly Fluke (an OLD multimeter), Klein Tools NCVT-1 Non Contact Voltage Tester and ET300 Circuit Breaker Finder, and a Sperry GFI6302 GFCI Outlet/Receptacle Tester. Still looking for a good general-purpose tracer for wires buried in walls.

[@brianwengel6894]

I would be very surprised if you can't use it to trace any kind of copper wire, of course not out of the box because the lack of RJ45 on a power cord. But it's very likely you can make your own "converter" cable. My guess is it just sent a power pulse at a certain frequency that the receiver can pick up.

[@antonioathanasiadis3307]

Nice review. Certainly it's a budget tester for home use or for hobbyist.

[@Adil-dp4ll]

Whats wrong with using it in a corporate environment??

[@jamsynet6117]

Hello, I just bought the NF-8601w and the DHCP does not work.the message is " dhcp server response timeout " what is the solution to solve the problem. thanks and good to you

[@BudgetNerd]

If it doesn't get an IP address assigned by DHCP, you could always manually enter one into the unit.

[@jamsynet6117]

@@BudgetNerd which dhcp server uses you, a software or hardware router, ... thaks

[@jamsynet6117]

thanks *

[@BudgetNerd]

My router

[@jamsynet6117]

@@BudgetNerd what is the router model ? Thanks

[@mvol5973]

It’s an ok tester. Length measure not very accurate and if charged up the battery will go dead even if you’re not using it

[@jlugolok]

Out of curiosity, which Fluke tester does she use? Just want to know which model she was comparing it to...

[@BudgetNerd]

Good question. Not sure. She has since moved on to a different company so can't ask. But it was a really pricey one.

[@jhosueruiz3211]

I think she compared this device with Fluke's Microscanner2 Cable Verifier (MS2-KIT).

[@nekoroms]

yeah and microscanner is 7 times more expensive as this one :) so offcourse it would be better

[@xConundrumx]

No it had to be a CableIQ model (probably Fluke CIQ-100) she compared to. MS2 does not 'certify' cables which she had to do from the looks of it. MS2 is basically a cable mapper and closer to the functionality of this device but without the fancy color LCD. One thing to note about a color LCD is it needs a backlight. Backlights suck a fair bit of power. It looks neat and all but worth bearing in mind when you do not want to have to charge often.

[@Shazman30]

That wasn't a shipping box. That was a piece of corrugated cardboard fashioned into a box. Nice.

[@bennyselvaraj7593]

Super sir

[@designtime3469]

I bought this unit and came to the same conclusions. I would say two things the cost difference of the Fluke is massive. Finally don’t call your friend a pro 😂 call her a network engineer.

[@cbactefect4525]

Test the Cat. 6A?

[@graceSabugrace]

sr....how much price

[@ABGG55]

is this device can detect crosstalk cable?

[@BudgetNerd]

+oatbaa you can do a wiremap on it, and it will show if it's a crossover cable.

[@ABGG55]

Budget Nerd I mean crosstalk issue not cross wiring :)

[@BudgetNerd]

+oatbaa crosstalk.. oh.. probably does not.

[@ABGG55]

Budget Nerd many thanks for your info. Thanks for that!

[@matthewpower4886]

You are the reason I took this route... Great video. I hope she does the trick. I do him vision an IP intercom installs daily.. I'll keep you posted.$190 on Amazon

[@antonioclemente7854]

los menus se pueden ver en español ?

[@BudgetNerd]

No

[@geepriest]

Battery on this still good after almost 2 years?

[@BudgetNerd]

I don't use it too much, but so far, still works great.

[@mikser6666]

why cant it just do all that and then export data later...... just like fluke

[@arashhmi8175]

thx

[@mathewmunro3770]

They get different wire lengths on a similar product (Noyafa NF-8601s) on a test wire here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYKzm6qkr6prbJI

[@dunclowe7445]

Great review as the instructions are useless

[@BudgetNerd]

Thanks. Yeah that's why I went through the whole thing like I did. I had to figure it out and I thought that info would be helpful.

[@nrnoble]

Not only are Chinese manual entertaining to decrypt, their videos are just as bad. "Stick butt end into hole connection on tool"

[@offertesoffertes911]

I have it, bad quality, dont buy it

[@Rdebeauvoir1]

BS!

[@andrzejkowalski3122]

Did shows which side (meter or remote) has pins reverse?

[@BudgetNerd]

It would show a diagram of the pins, so yes it does. You can see that diagram at 8:39.