The Burning Crusade Classic WoW: Leveling Guide for Launch Day or After! Revered by Level 70!

[@ngreen2013]

this guide is insanely under-rated. thank you for putting so much effort into it!

[@Icosiol]

UPDATE: Turns out Setheck Halls doesn’t give Rep past Honored, so some of the sources I looked up were wrong. That’s okay though, because we’re also leveling faster than expected with this strategy. The good thing is you can move on to the next step and your Rep gains won’t be impacted too much of at all, and you will be at a good level. Hope this helps. UPDATE #2: Drop the Consortium Rep grind. XP gain is way higher than I anticipated, so drop that step altogether and focus on the Factions required for Heroics. It’s looking like that alone gets you to 70.

[@kilok199]

What about the rep with CE? I just have to complete all quest and I will hit revered?

[@Icosiol]

@@kilok199 CE you are good to do either the dungeon farm or Unidentified Plant Parts (or mixture of both) to 5999/6000 Friendly. Then do CE quests which will get you to Revered.

[@Finality]

Wait, so what's the strat for Lower City rep now if Sethekk Halls isn't the play? You don't mention any alternative to this in following steps.

[@Icosiol]

@@Finality you will have to put it off until the end. This is rather alarming and I wonder if it may be a mistake by Blizzard, because all the sources I am looking at show Setheck halls has rewarding Rep to Revered.

[@andreik4893]

Hey there, great guide. I wonder if I'm the only one who got a problem with the CE rep: I opted for dungeon runs until honored, then I completed CE quests in HP, Zgm and terrokar but didn't hit revered. I found myself lagging behind for about 3000 rep. I wonder if I did smth wrong but can't understand what exactly

[@dubstep250]

Sethekk Halls doesnt give rep over honored, so have to farm the rep till revered another way ps; amazing guide, knocking like 3 birds with 1 stone while lvling, actually made the lvling part enjoyable for me. thanks a lot!

[@MadvillainOG]

What did you do?

[@dubstep250]

@@MadvillainOG i decided to run shadow labs, very nice clears and rep

[@keckkeck915]

the value in clearing first two bosses in slabs is so much easier than sethekk

[@eccentricity00]

this is the way to go.. 100% rep focused progression, level will take care of itself

[@costanzathemage]

I'm following the guide for the most part. The only thing I have noticed is that I'm not under leveled, but over leveled. It's probably rest XP, as I have to sleep and work in between sessions.

[@LegionofStorm]

Same, I’m about level 68 and a half at the beginning of step 7. Not that more xp is a bad thing, it just means going back to areas to farm rep will be easier I guess. I think it was because after I did the dungeon farms for a zone I would finish every quest in that zone as well, even if it didn’t award rep.

[@dylansantiago8468]

I don't think group exp bonus was a thing in og tbc

[@Akusticostacos]

me too, im 65 before even choosing aldor or scyer... and i didnt get even close revered at cenarion exp, cant find anymore quests, and didnt turn any in before honored

[@storyboarder]

So I came to the realization that when you say "do the zone quests with thrallmar/cenarion/etc rep" That doesnt mean the whole zone. 1/4 of Hellfire Peninsulas quests went to Silvermoon Rep and 1/2 or more of Zangarmarsh went to trolls. By doing everything you actually over lvl. Felt nice to finish in a completionist sense tho haha

[@socio4206]

Same not even revd with cenar yet and 65

[@Professor.Farnsworth]

Until Honored do: Blood Furnance to lvl 61 --> Slave Pens to lvl 63 --> Mana-Tombs to lvl 66 --> Sethekk Halls to lvl 68 --> Start karazhan attunement --> 1x Hillsbrad --> 1x Black Morass and/or until 69 --> Turn in your Karazhan Attunement --> Shadow Labyrinth until 70 --> 1x Steam Vaults --> Attuned to Karazhan. This also serves you to get a good amount of the pre-bis gear from SL. Backtrack and start clearing reputation quests in each area to reach Revered (you can turn in your dungeon quests once youre Friendly 5999/6000). Or Shattered Halls --> Honor Hold/Thrallmar Rep to exalted. Steam Vaults --> Cenarion Expedition to exalted. Shadow Labyrinth --> Lower City to Exalted. Botanica --> Sha'Tar to Exalted - due note that Blizzard has confirmed that without a Flying Mount you will not be able to be summoned to these instances as was the case in the original launch of TBC. It was relaxed in a later phase. Black Morass --> Keepers of Time to Exalted. These all give you your prebis dungeon gear and most importantly familiarize you with the dungeons.

[@rasmuskjaerpoulsen]

And if you want to min/max even further: Shattered halls --> kill first boss then reset dungeon (you can even pull the boss without going through the sewer by using the warlock spell "Eye of Kilrogg" Slabs --> Kill first 2 bosses then reset Botanica --> 2 first bosses + the plant trash after second boss Well atleast if its gonna be somewhat close to what people been doing on private servers of course.

[@Icosiol]

There’s a lot of comparisons to the Dungeon Farm strategy vs this strategy that I am reading, and I think both are perfectly viable options so level with whichever strategy you enjoy more. Both strategies have their pros & cons which I think are as follows: Level for Rep (this guide): Pros - Maximized Rep Gain, Revered with most Factions at 70, Less Rep Grind to Exalted, Access to great gear and recipes earlier. Con - Slower leveling process, Less Gold from quests completed early. Dungeon Farm Strat: Pros - Fastest leveling option, Good gold earning potential with quests done at max level, Can’t be Ganked in an instance. Cons - Longer Rep Grind at 70, Limited access to Heroics at 70, Limited access to powerful Faction gear and recipes at 70. There may be more pros and cons, but these are what come to mind first. The important thing is you do what is fun for you.

[@justusroennau7035]

I believe you'd be losing out a lot more rep with pure dungeon farm than most people think. I tested this on the Beta and at level 70 the quests in Hellfire, Zangarmarsh and Terokkar will only give you 10% rep (25 per quest instead of 250). This could happen before level 70, I wasn't able to test this precisely. Still, it's important to complete these quests while levelling.

[@jacobymugatu9802]

@@justusroennau7035 wait..what? Don’t u get more rep at max level as a reward?

[@Icosiol]

@@jacobymugatu9802 negative. You get more gold.

[@Quplas]

You could add the "full bis naxx T3" requirement for dungeon farming as a con.

[@TehDanny]

@@Quplas There are a lot of good blue gear drops to get from the dungeons and a bit from rep vendors. That won't cover all gear slots for a long time, but green boe's from dungeons might help. Should be doable. Can also get some help from some classic consumables such as wizard oils, sharpening stones and Demonic/ Dark Runes.

[@zzlowkie]

thank you so much for making this video!

[@BumlinsDrinkWater]

Thanks for making this guide, gonna be super useful to refer back to during early TBC!

[@runeghost4264]

Watched and loved this video. I instantly subscribed. This is guide is so thorough, mapped out and well explained, I had to follow.

[@vivian-alexandrarivers897]

As someone who has no plans to dungeon grind but does want to try out dungeons at lower level, this is the prefect middle ground for me since it helps out with the grind in the long run, not just early on.

[@Jivewired]

Agree this is a really nice hybrid guide - I've seen a few of these now and this is the first one I'm actually bookmarking. I expect to do dungeons as much as I can, but I'll be coming and going and it's nice to have something speak to the blend of soloable content as well for times I don't have a group or am not confident I have enough time for a dungeon.

[@nigelcicero9093]

If you start from lvl 58 instead of 60 this guide isn't too far off xp wise. Overall great guide, thanks for the hard work ☺️

[@wjkingva]

Very well organized. I'm going to cash the ~20 high level quests I have banked and finish off a number of lvl60 quests I have mapped out since I expect the day they open the Dark Portal to be virtually unplayable. I will then head into the Hellfire dungeons a day or two later. I figure being level 62-ish will help with groups, will make completing quests a little easier if I'm 1-2 levels above them, and will ultimately help speed up the rep grind/leveling process. Will definitely have your guide open on my second screen.

[@sralbert91]

Amazing guide my dude, showed this to my guild and we've decide to use your method to level our members. Good stuff, keep it up!

[@Icosiol]

Thank you, and that’s great to hear!

[@cicballa]

OMG... ive been watching vids like this for 5 months now... I JUST WANT IN :P Awesome explaining though, this has been done by many other people, and this by far is the best one ive seen. Well more detailed, well laid out, better explanations. All in all awesome job here! I will be coming back to this when the time comes!

[@Gribixx]

Gonna be following this guide for my reputation grind while leveling! Thanks for the awesome video

[@permafrost93]

You nailed it buddy. I couldn't ask for anything better. Detailed, exact, short and extremely handy. ty for making my life easier

[@Bigbazz86]

A lot of effort put into this, will definitely be referencing this as I level. Thanks!

[@datboi2886]

DUDE thank you so much for the spreadsheet of quests that give rep!!!!

[@notsogoodreddituser7464]

Im not sure if I am correct to say this, but I found this guide so helpful that I wanted to comment my experience as a discussion point. I found that in my personal experience doing the Consortium first before Lower City was best for me due to the level requirements for groups to run Mana Tombs v AC. I found alot more success trying to find Mana Tombs groups than AC due to being roughly level 63 when starting these grinds. Im not sure if this is the case for everyone though and hopefully there are no issues with doing so

[@Icosiol]

Always do what works for you. Thanks for sharing your input. I am sure it will help folks. Be sure to check out the updated addition to this guide that I posted yesterday.

[@notsogoodreddituser7464]

@@Icosiol Oh I hadn't seen the updated version, thanks again for the guide very helpful

[@DOLamba]

One thing that I didn't feel like you touched on. When you mention dungeons to run, like Slave Pens and Underbogs. It might be one less run in Underbog, but Slave Pens is SO much easier.

[@rawkhawk414]

Underbog be like FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR. Now your equipment is broken. Enjoy being frozen and kicked back to Africa or having Bog Lord Booger crit you for 2.6k if you pull too much threat.

[@nairav9156]

Until Step 8 a wonderful guide that I plan to even use while leveling alts! Starting with step 8 it gets hard to follow the guide because you will be 2-3 levels ahead of what he thinks you are and the entire step 8 itself doesn't work because there were changes to Sethekk, but step 9 doing some quest to reach the needed last rep for cenario was a good tip and gave me the last 2k I needed

[@Icosiol]

I am making a quick video that makes adjustments to this one precisely because of that problem.

[@nairav9156]

@@Icosiol I think I saw the updated video but it wasn't as nice to follow so I just sticked with the original and adjustet the small issues myself.

[@FulcrumMW]

Great guide!! Very practical and smart way of leveling that not many people at all are thinking of. Awesome stuff, can't wait for TBC! I'll definitely be referencing this guide often :)

[@theHOF123]

This guide is amazing. Finally a reliable tbc leveling guide. Thank you!!

[@ololadin91]

Im leveling straight after your guide. Im lvl 66 now. Had to buy around 100 plantparts, even optimised your guide by killing naga instead of the elementals till friendly since I was lvl 63 entering the zone (higher dropchance for the plantparts & 5- 10 rep per kill to friendly). Did all the quests for the Expedition (of course after reaching honored) and dind reach revered (missing 3900rep). Farmed for the aldor emblems and hit lvl 66 when i got to honored. Havent even started to farm lower city rep. Looks like im super unlucy when it comes to Drops. The guide is still a nice help, but the lvls you should reach when hitting your rep goal are way of.

[@robertp457]

Such good video!! I was critical of your videos in the past and you’ve really improved the pacing of your videos.

[@adamsearle8160]

This guide is decent and I recommend using it as a loose idea of what to do. But I'm about halfway through it and nearly 68. So the XP gains are way underestimated.

[@Icosiol]

Exactly right. With the little info that was out there about exact XP gains I grossly miscalculated just how much XP you will actually get. I am going to work on an update to this video now that we can get 100% accurate info.

[@deadellavita798]

@@Icosiol also nto sure if i did somethign wrong but in your guide you said you needed 340 marks of kil'jaeden for Belf to reach honored with aldor but it took me 360 not 340.

[@kennymoore7013]

Nice guide, is there a written version anywhere? Would be easier to reference than scanning the video. Appreciate it.

[@williamzeus8669]

There is a spreadsheet online which is what this person stole and is trying to pawn off as his own guide

[@Fr0z0rz]

@@williamzeus8669 Source?

[@GuideFire]

Just finished, let me know if anyone sees any mistakes or anything I can add in! docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1JjBqdwOlyLe4cp7zcuepbkOvUDfBtRJXeKaisYOFhlw

[@Icosiol]

@@GuideFire Nicely done.

[@Icosiol]

@@Fr0z0rz he won’t give one. I have been asking for it too.

[@Hypnowise]

Lovely guide and all I hear is "Now you're in the Ketchup Phase"

[@Icosiol]

😂

[@TGShunai]

And sarjeras instead of sargeras

[@Gonchie10]

nice video! I'm just getting back into the game and have some leveling to do. Question; is this still the optimal way to do things, or did phase 4 make the reputation path less important to optimize?

[@Icosiol]

It’s not important anymore. This is really only if you want to maximize your Rep on a fresh TBC server; which we won’t ever see again sadly.

[@crispychicken143]

i feel like im watching "how its made", and i dig it

[@semitones9106]

Ye, I was way over-leveled for this guide so far! Amazing information regardless!

[@imarabbit94]

Reminds me of a runescape guide. Will be very useful thanks for this

[@tontastotelas4749]

Awesome Guide! Dude... Awesome! No other word is needed for a comment! AWESOME

[@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas]

Nice guide that puts you ahead in the rep grind.

[@MarianoGianni1]

You sound like the human narrator from wc2, amazing

[@esburn7895]

I was gonna say the guy from those "How it's Made" shows

[@MS-pw6jx]

damn, true af

[@s.zhavoronkov]

Very informative and professional, subscribed!

[@TheGreatHeeroYuy]

Think everything works out, I know you get less rep at 70 due to quests being gray, but you kept everything within the right level, from what I can tell, great job!

[@maxim9875]

Rep does not change due to level. Exp does

[@amouramarie]

Ahh, fantastic. Thank you so much. I'm sure this took a ton of work - much appreciated!

[@sw0rdmane459]

Shared this video with my guild discord, this is exactly what we were looking for!

[@jacobymugatu9802]

Amazing guide man, thanks! Got a pdf of the steps to share? If you do NOT do any quests until 70, you will earn roughly 3,000 more gold than doing then below level 70. This was tested, you will also complete the quests a LOT faster

[@Icosiol]

But potentially earn 1/2 the Rep. It just depends on how you want to play. Do what you think you will enjoy more.

[@Icosiol]

I do not have any PDF. What I have is notes on notes on notes. I guess I could organize it all.

[@mafih93]

Thank you very much for taking so much time to create this master piece !

[@StarWarsBuddy]

The Legendary Noob-Guild of "Spätifreunde-Spandau" was here. Thx for the Guide

[@Anaomilfairbanks]

Dude you’re the best man I was overwhelmed and now I’m not

[@sezzo65]

Hey I'm sorry but I don't quite understand this video at first glance, Am I supposed to farm beads/feathers/whathaveyou ontop of the dungeon runs? As to reach revered? Isn't questing a better option for this grind?

[@v1zulul428]

its one or the another u choose and no questing is not better

[@Dushku]

For those who are interested in Consortium rep (mind the update from the author saying skip it on the way to 70), don't forget the Ivory Tusks quest.

[@HoxtonGuitarist]

I'd love to a see guide like this for WOTLK! :))

[@Icosiol]

Unfortunately I will not be playing WotLK mainly because I hated that expansion. I will be moving on to other things soon, so expect different content going forward. I am glad you liked this video though, and letting me know. I do really appreciate it.

[@MrUself]

Cool... I am going to follow this guide with my hunter and druid.

[@Obelion_]

great guide! thats exactly what i was looking for

[@Simply_Helen]

Thanks! Glad I discovered this before I got too far.

[@killer2403]

Amazingly well done!

[@costaran]

very very helpful and underrated. thx man

[@sukithard9475]

Thumbed up, and subbed for this video. Really good info mate, thanks, and enjoy.

[@Honnatore]

This was a good guide, but the xp gains weren't that accurate. I was outleveling the guide the whole time and reached 70 way sooner. Still a great guide, regardless.

[@drumnbassdan]

well rested xp cannot be taken into account can it.

[@bravepotatoe7513]

@@drumnbassdan Even with 0 rested xp you vastly outpace the guide and it's been acknowledge by the author himself.

[@Sifu2k]

Nice work. But when happened the shattar grind? 🤔

[@reg6977]

thank you I had no idea on how I was going to level now I do you are awesome

[@DozleZabi]

the unidentified plant parts on my server were CHEAP AS HELL because people don't understand how valuable they are. got honoured with less than 100 g

[@BlindGuardian050]

People know, there is just a lot of plant parts floating around.

[@BSwitchGTG]

How much would you adjust to move ALL quests to post-70? My plan was to do dungeon rep to honored in Hellfire, then move to Cenarion, then the next, etc. leaving all skipped quests until at 70 to get the extra gold. Is that reasonable without needing to slog through extra dungeon runs? I have some math to do, but basically looking for how much total XP is required 60-70, how much XP is possible from dungeons, and (if just grinding to honored) what excess are we looking at. That may be my day today, lol! Love the guide - sharing with my guild, and expect most of us will follow this rough path.

[@Icosiol]

Thank you for sharing with your guild. That helps a lot, so thank you very much. To answer your question, just running dungeons to 70 is perfectly viable and is a faster route to 70 if that’s your goal, but for some Factions you will miss out on some Rep which leaves a longer grind at 70. Cenarion Expedition and Aldor/Scryer immediately comes to mind. The dungeon farm to 70 is also very specific to which dungeons to farm, and different than this guide since XP gain is the goal rather than Rep. Both strategies have their pros and cons, so as long as you’re having fun I don’t think it matters which leveling strategy you use.

[@BSwitchGTG]

@@Icosiol I agree, and I guess need to look more closely at things. Personally don’t care about hitting 70, and rep maximization is definitely my goal. Wondering about tweaking the pathing to also maximize more quests after 70 purely for the gold, though. I love this time we get to plan and speculate. Next we find how well we can execute, or how smoothbrained we become, haha! Thanks man, keep it up!

[@Icosiol]

One of the downfalls of keeping quests till the end is if they’re gray quests your Rep earned may be less. I can’t confirm if that’s how it will be, but some folks have brought that up. I just can’t verify it.

[@zartron1]

Great video, especially since we can agree on the "filthy alliance player" part :).

[@soulkw1158]

Hey there, the video is really nice. Have you ever thought of making this into an in-game addon like zygors or something like that? I'd give my lunch money for it.

[@datolicious4832]

This would be gold! Something like the attune addon but with this information👌

[@claymore9359]

TBC classic is gonna be LIT! Never been so excited for a game

[@darknight602]

It will be, after about a week or two

[@mbarrett99]

There's a lot more to Burning Crusade than racing to 70 in full T3 and getting into Karazhan in the first week.

[@Icosiol]

Good thing this is not a racing guide. 😁

[@markokavac7867]

Amazing guide Ico..i recomended you to all my friends!

[@Darkdeaths994]

yea im just going to play the game and get it eventually

[@GoontiesTTV]

Same man. My guild is doing this shit and it just seems like a full on sweaty play style. People want tbc classic and no changes but meta game like this. Nah I’ll play it like I did back in the day thanks.

[@louisoost121]

Awesome video, really well done!

[@gmfreshirl8190]

This is fucking amazing. Like.. bro you really did your thing in this video.

[@Myray32]

You dont..... i learned this the hard way.

[@rahbeat9785]

hey great video, i have a question a friend of mine said that in the first day of launch it's actually better to turn-in and do lvl 60 dungeons in Azeroth before starting this route.... what's your opinion?

[@Icosiol]

That’s true, and with this strategy you too will start off in dungeons. Not one quest will be turned in until you reach Honored. The theory is that if you’re in BF and Ramps to Honored at that time, so is the crowd. When the dungeon farmers are done they’re moving on to the next dungeons leaving the zone not as occupied. Pair that with the inevitable layering and you should have a good questing experience. Then it’s on to the next Rep grind from there. There’s all sorts of strategies to leveling in TBC, and while some might be better in some areas they will have negatives in others. Even this one has negatives, but as long as you’re having fun that’s all that matters.

[@rahbeat9785]

@@Icosiol Oh i meant level 58-60 dungeons like strat / scholo, he claimed that ramp/bf will have lag because of the high amount of people in the first day

[@rasmuskjaerpoulsen]

@@rahbeat9785 That might actually be true, but i guess we'll have to see

[@Icosiol]

That is a very interesting concept, but I don’t think it will work as intended. The elite mobs in Ramps and BF will grant more XP on kill than the old dungeons. I also don’t think the lag will be too bad. I could be wrong though.

[@SS-td4kh]

Wowee! Such rep! Many XP!

[@greensmurf221]

1000% excellent - thank you, sir.

[@ronanmcw]

Can we expect a followup to the famous fishing and cooking guide any time soon?

[@Icosiol]

Yes. That’s next on my list.

[@lukaszf6485]

Great job Sir!

[@fatsquid90]

You do one Ramps for the quest item that sends you to HH then BF. Turn it in when you hit a lock out or need to sell.

[@mellowsunset7730]

Great guide!

[@MrJamesh91]

some of the quests for consortium in nagrand you cannot do once your over friendly, so you would have to do them before MT rep farm. theres only 4 quests left that are available after your over friendly. 2 give 250 rep, one is 10 rep and the other is repeatable for the warbeads.

[@windhammer1237]

Sweet! Thanks bro!

[@pbjdelight2429]

As somebody who was thinking about doing classic TBC, This video solidified why I shouldn't lol. I had no idea you had to farm that many wraps just to play the game

[@d0minican0milan0]

It isn't really a race unless you're trying to be on the cutting edge of progression. It is fine to play at your own pace. The game will naturally steer you towards activities that increase the most important reps you need, and you'll get a good chunk of what you need before you realize it's time to grind. Revered isn't all that bad honestly.

[@lockdudesinc145]

I'm curious. I went to Outlands as level 58 and wanted to wait doing dungeon spam untill level 60. That means I'm already friendly with Thrallmar. Does that have any sort of impact, if I want to use your guide?

[@PublishX]

Yes that means you spent 5000 or so rep in quests that you could have grinder in ramparts or blood furnace. You have to make up that 5000 rep with shattered halls normal or heroic runs at 70 if someone else has the key

[@warpathh]

Awesome video.

[@storyboarder]

So I came to the realization that when you say "do the zone quests with thrallmar/cenarion/etc rep" That doesnt mean the whole zone. 1/4 of Hellfire Peninsulas quests went to Silvermoon Rep and 1/2 or more of Zangarmarsh went to trolls. By doing everything you actually over lvl. Felt nice to finish in a completionist sense tho haha. Reposting so newer ppl can possibly see

[@AssiraZero]

in the video description it says which quests to do

[@Icosiol]

That is correct.

[@storyboarder]

@@AssiraZero Right but as you can see by the comments its something thats overlooked by ppl and in the spirit of questing sometimes you dont wanna research everything, you just wanna run out the door so to speak.

[@izumi1499]

thank you king

[@MarkieBee]

Goated guide

[@RaduP3]

for unidentified plant parts you should farm the fish in the lakes. very low hp and very good drop rate for the plant parts.

[@Theundead1987]

Thanks for the thorough guide. (I'm following it as we speak). One thing tho. I'm done with the CE and I'm 3000 from revered, I haven't gotten any coilfang to hand in or uncatalogued species. I'm I the only one?

[@Theundead1987]

Did the CE quests in Zangarmarsh, terrokar + hellfire #

[@Icosiol]

@@Theundead1987 Did you farm for the Unitdentifed Plant Parts, or did you do the Dungeon runs to get to Honored with CE?

[@Theundead1987]

I did the dungeon runs, might just been unlucky with the drops 😊

[@Icosiol]

Okay, that makes sense then. If you farmed or bought enough to turn in the quest 36 times you would only get 6-8 Uncatalogued Species worth 500 Rep per turn in.

[@CurrentlyObsessively]

Can some boss of a person make a weak aura that basically does this guide for you??

[@amouramarie]

Ohdang that's an amazing idea!

[@ecafckuf]

Nice guide. Ty

[@pedrovidal5402]

I'm doing the Cenarion Expedition part now. Bought plant parts till honored and now I'm doing the quests. However, I got only one Uncatalogued Species, which is nowhere near the amount you used in your calculations. I'm afraid I won't be able to get revered with quests only now. What should I do to get revered?

[@Icosiol]

That’s okay. I only got three, and I think what happened is the info I referenced might have been after a patch that upped the percentage rate of them dropping. I am 1,000 Rep shy of Revered after completing all the quests, and you will be about 2,000, but that’s okay. The quests in Blades Edge Mts, and Nether Storm will get you to Revered before 70. All is not lost.

[@pedrovidal5402]

@@Icosiol Thanks so much for answering :D. Overall your guide is awesome and I've been having tons of fun experiencing tbc for the first time. Cheers and congrats on the incredible content.

[@shugo66]

so if you need to do 12 runs of BF how many would you need to do if you do Ramps and if you know how many would you need to run if you wanted to split them up and do half and a half so you don't burn on on the same dungeon I'm only 38 as of writing this but still wondering. I also plan to heal on my paladin so do you know if there is like a sweet spot like run Ramps until I get blank items then continue doing BF.

[@McconneIIRet]

Great video.

[@Minelump]

I found it better to quest until 70 and then do Steamvault, Shattered Halls and Shadow Labyrinth to get revered. Dungeon spamming isn't fun imo and in the ones I said the rep is in the 1,5k~ region while in Blood Furnace, Slave Pens and AC the rep is around 400-600 at most. Leveling to 70 also opened up a bunch of dungeon quests to get even more rep.

[@BarnyWaterg8]

Super helpful

[@WB_Mel]

So what is the point of gaining honour levels outside of the XP you gain from the quests/dungeon running you get when reaching those honour levels? Do you get bonus XP in those given areas or something?

[@svilendenchev9984]

You can't get into heroic dungeons unless you're revered with these factions

[@beekey91]

You say at 3:30 to do the Cenarion Expedition quests and then again at 6:10. I guess you mean to do them after you get the Cenarion rep to honored right?

[@Icosiol]

I say it too quick, but at 3:30 I say do all BUT the CE quests in Hellfire. You don’t do those until you are actively working on CE Rep in Step 2.

[@beekey91]

@@Icosiol Ahh thanks. Yeah I missed that.

[@MaNiaGCoD]

Are you supposed to start with a "Friendly" rep with the Cenarion expedition? I'm done with Thrallmar, starting Cenarion but I'm at neutral.....

[@Icosiol]

Neutral

[@vassildshingarov767]

After completing 12 dungeon runs for BF and then having also completed all dungeon quests, what do you do next? Is it just me that doesn't understand what happens afterwards? Or do you mean that you just go and do quests in Thrallmar until you reach 10k Honored?

[@kskizmir35]

Do all the HF quests except cenarion expedition ones. (CE ones are located most western part and they are taurens and nelves i think)

[@bleachipa3486]

fingers crossed you do an attunement guide like this next

[@Icosiol]

Already got one for Dungeons and Raids.

[@mikecampbell8966]

You want to do shattar rep before scryer/aldor, as the hand ins provide 50% rep to shattar. Also, doing Auchenai as a tank at 63/64 when the mobs are 67 is not going to go well.

[@Jeppezzzful]

Uff, this guide made so many people think it was more effective to full clear dungeons

[@Icosiol]

Just this guide?

[@Jeppezzzful]

@@Icosiol well, you are probably not solely responsible - the information in the video is good and I thank you for trying to inform and help, my friends has just encountered a lot of people quoting this idea that 'you need to full clear for rep' - which is terribly inefficient unless you can full clear in 12 minutes

[@Luxorcist]

Is Consortium required for anything specific, or can it be skipped?

[@Icosiol]

Mainly for professions.

[@joker102877]

At 7:33, you said "Sunfury Signets," but the Firewing Signet is pictured. Which one do we farm?

[@Icosiol]

Firewing. I misspoke there.

[@danielachristopherson7716]

can you turn this into a pdf so i can check it off while i do it?

[@williamzeus8669]

There is a spreadsheet online which is what this person stole and is trying to pawn off as his own guide

[@pk3r505]

@@williamzeus8669 got a link?

[@tropezgaming1115]

@@williamzeus8669 Can you link it plz

[@Icosiol]

@@williamzeus8669 I am still waiting on that link too.

[@justinalowery]

@@Icosiol docs.google.com/document/d/1JjBqdwOlyLe4cp7zcuepbkOvUDfBtRJXeKaisYOFhlw/edit **Edit - This is a great transcribed follow along with this video. @Icosiol personally provided this link to me but I didn't see it in the description so I added it here. @Icosiol would you mind adding this to the bottom of your Description. It would immensely help out to use in groups as we level in TBC. Thank you so much for this video and guide!