Warcraft's New Lore That Changes EVERYTHING

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[@PotatoTheCat]

Platinum I kid you not I spent like 2 hours last night thinking I'd gone crazy and forgotten about a modern day thriving arathor somewhere in the eastern kingdoms

[@flazzorb]

Imagine if they just added it, and put it in classic too and just went _"what no, it was always here."_

[@Epsonea_482]

You will NOT eat the forbidden ceiling rock candy, no matter how purple it looks

[@MiguelSanchezDelVillar]

If non edible why look like candy?

[@brothatisfunny]

BUT IT'S GRAPE FLAVOURED!!! 😭😭😭

[@Sanguiris]

Fancy seeing you here

[@RunicSoulEater]

What if I prefer the Lemon flavor?

[@Hawkens4k]

You can't tell what not to eat!

[@januszholanki4790]

It would be fun if this "emperor" would be living in giant mountain where he will be raising 20 infused by light children, and 20 legions of superhalfelfs to conquer all azeroth

[@danthedamning7210]

Too bad his favourite son Cooper caused half of his Siblings to turn against his father in an event known only as The Cooper Coup

[@cormacbevins9679]

@@danthedamning7210 Cooper will become the WarCraft 40000.

[@Blundabus1337]

I saw this video's title and thought it was a Bellular video.

[@watchman6671]

me too 😂

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

It may as well be.

[@gearzdesign]

But this video is actually entertaining, something bellular can't do.

[@RunicSoulEater]

​@@gearzdesign can't do ANYMORE sadly. Early Bellular made some decent stuff.

[@darenoon]

​@@gearzdesign Truth bomb

[@kingsim9288]

If the Arathi empire is anything like the Imperium of man then we might be the ones getting crusade this time around.😅

[@emetanti]

Maybe for like a prepatch worth, anything past that by WoW tradition is us utterly manhandling them.

[@GiseleBurn-d4c]

The Emperor's Favorite flavor of Icecream is: Mint Chip. The best flavor. Obviously.

[@zaimox8586]

Ah yes we went from kid friendly LOTR to now Kid friendly Warhammer 40k

[@Hawkens4k]

A random child: Fer da emperor! Void monster: Aww!

[@josejuanandrade4439]

Fitting as how originaly when trying to create Warcraft, they tried to get the license to Warhammer, and when the negotiations didn't happen, they ended creating their own universe, lore, races, etc. So it eventualy had to end up in Warhammer again.

[@JJJ42069]

we went from the series based off warhammer to warhammer references, who knew!

[@hofaho]

Just call Velen to check it out ffs

[@mattemattics5667]

He won’t help, he only gets off his ass when his old demon buddies are involved.

[@herteion4133]

Tell him we have "LIGHT" down there

[@mossysnail6857]

IT'S VERY POSSIBLE Velen would know about Beledar or whatever naaru it is!

[@johnrea8173]

Exactly! This would be a great time to include Velen in something again. Even if he doesn't know exactly what it is.

[@clogs4956]

Yep, I’m thinking Beledar is a crumpled up Naaru or Naaru-adjacent entity under extreme stress, hence the erratic Void state.

[@0mn0mable]

"BY MY HOLY HAMERRR" 10/10 voice acting, shades of Dawn of War voice acting for space marines. Glad you highlighted it in your video Mr Pladdy daddy

[@cristhianmlr]

Platiunum

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

@@cristhianmlr Platinuwunum.

[@mossysnail6857]

Baron from the priory one of the best god damn paladins ever. AT LEAST rank 3 to Tirion, and Maraad

[@patrickbryananonuevo8271]

Chris Metzen drawing inspiration from Warhammer? Unheard of.

[@ddogthepimp]

They aren’t even hiding their 40k influence lol

[@josejuanandrade4439]

Warcraft was suppoused to be a warhammer game, until they couldn't get the license.

[@mfo6892]

Is it me or everything about this expansion screams Warhammer? I know about their original connections, but you have tech priests in the form of machine speakers. Hallowfall is all about the "Emperor's light" and the "Emperor's vision". "The void" feels like the Warp too, with abominations corrupting people and etc.

[@Chukanay]

Yes it really does sound like Warhammer

[@Blacmorecito]

I mean it's always been a derivative from warhammer.

[@Heranara]

Let's Pray there's No Horus Heresy.

[@primarchxi6639]

Yes it does, and I LOVE IT!!👊

[@ImSarahNow22]

literally screenshotted the techpriest to send to my Warhammer friends 🤣

[@mans51]

finally a naaru crystal sized big enough to turn Sargeras sword into an ashbringer

[@KodFrostwrath]

I hope this hypes me up. So far I've been questing through to 80 and everything, main and side quests, all a huge disappointment. edit: I'm sorry I was on copium, I think this is not for me anymore. But great video 👍

[@lukasgaming82]

"The Arathi had no clue what the crystal was and where it was from but they instantly fell in love with it":D

[@GazingTrandoshan]

Paladins are like moths

[@holydush]

This whole void/light thing is gonna have a very boring conclusion because wow can't design for player agency since it's an mmo, would've been fun in a single player rpg though.

[@alwaysangry2232]

or a rts...

[@BubblepunkAD]

13:44 - Question 3: The Earthen on Khaz'algar remain Earthen because they do not Originate from the Forge of Wills in Ulduar, where MOST Earthen come from, and therefore have never come into contact with the Curse of Flesh.

[@ispear6337]

They have come into contact with the Curse of Flesh; it is what gives them their free will.

[@dany5ful]

They did have contact with the curse of flesh, as it's stated in a book in DF: . "Basically, they're more resistant but they still got infected and started to gain free will because of it."

[@BubblepunkAD]

@@dany5ful Well aight, the rest of my statement is true tho lol

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

Chris Metzen on the emperors chair is a meme I immediately stole.

[@michaelbread5906]

HUMANS INVENTED LEMONS! -The Emperor of Mankind probably

[@Hawkens4k]

Think the emperor himself can't drink milk due to him being born before humanity had farm animals?

[@javiermejias6184]

I assume The Emperor will be a mayor antagonist in the future. Maybe not in this expansion, but soon i guess

[@Pitstik07]

Personally I’m assuming the emperor will be a governor antagonist.

[@Junglewarfare]

Also, it sucks that the best music from the zone is located in * *checks note* * ...the farm area, Light's Blooming. Specifically, Arathor General H , A, B, and C.

[@54032Zepol]

That's were all the good stuff is!

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

I enjoy that "Fungal" music a lot, the very ominious tune...But as per usual with modern WoW tracks it's a great big mess of epic orchestral tunes that all blend together into an indistinguishable mass with very few stand-out tracks. Has been an issue since Legion or BfA, I believe.

[@johnrea8173]

@@HiddenEvilStudios Totally agree. I forgot about how the old WoW zones had great background music.

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

@@johnrea8173 It wasn't as grand, but it was more distinct.

[@dat_lamp]

Golden Throne indeed. WoW just rips a lot of their lore from Warhammer, just do it harder!!

[@halason1]

when even you cant make warcrafts stories good I know I'm done with them.

[@mossysnail6857]

the fkin thumbnail is killing me STOP! LOL and i am calling it now, that Beledar IS naaru it has the markings, it acts like Mu'uru did in the sunwell, IT HAS to be Naaru i mean look at the netherlight priest class hall too! IT'S GOTTA BE NAARU MAN!

[@Aukaisihir]

There may be a lot of unanswered questions but Chris Metzan did say in an interview that TWW is basically just the beginning, the appetizer if you will. If things are answered at the end, fine but some things might carry over to Midnight which is a good thing so that everything is not just wrapped up in one expansion. It would be pretty boring if next patch (after the anniversary one) everything is answered...okay now what? Sure one or two would be nice but keep us wondering. Keep us speculating.

[@gemini_starr]

Wasn't Warcraft born out of Warhammer, because they wanted to make a Warhammer game but that fell through?

[@BlueProphet7]

That's starcraft. Zerg are Tyranids, Terrans are Space Marines, Protoss are Eldar. They even have Dark Protoss for Dark Eldar.

[@gemini_starr]

@@BlueProphet7 Yeah, but they can use "inspiration" from the same game to make many games.

[@thefrisianviking28]

It's both. Warhammer = warcraft and warhammer 40k = starcraft. ​@@BlueProphet7

[@jasonrabeiro2009]

@@BlueProphet7 Warcraft Orcs and Humans was originally an intended Warhammer Fantasy videogame.

[@rieper13]

The old WoW was heavily inspired by D&D. I know a lot of high fantasy franchises are, especially in the early 2000s, but classic WoW had a lot of D&D influence

[@d4mephisto]

I'm pretty sure the Arathi emperor is just Kuzco from The Emperor's New Groove. Change my mind.

[@therethan-family1234]

At this point, I expect that to becone an adventurer, one has to cut out their own tongue. That we are not allowed to ask or tell major lore characters the most simple things is ridicolous.

[@ShinyPunkSam]

Man, what happened to WoW lol.

[@crab264]

I think the biggest culprit why we can't have factions that are similar to The Imperium of Man or villains like the Dark Eldar (As an example) is because many people within the company either have no idea how to write Dark Fantasy/Grimdark Fantasy or have an obsession with smoothing out any edge the story could have to make it appealing to people who don't like stories with real life problems/connotations (Likely a mix of both). Leading to this mess of conflicting ideas where some people want to return WoW to its dark fantasy roots, while others want more things like the Loam Niffen and Vulpera. And I think this conflict of ideas shows itself with how they treated Faerin. With her character in the trailer appearing more grizzled and fanatical to the point missing an arm and eye didn't stop her from her service, while her character in-game is more: "Sad backstory, but I believe in the power of friendship so Anduin can progress from his multi-expansion sadboy arc." It's complete tonal whiplash from how she looked and acted, same with the Earthen. They had a good start, only to be softened up and over-simplified upon release for whatever reason. WoW has every advantage if they wanted to go back to dark fantasy, Wizards of the Coast and Games Workshop have proved this to be an extremely successful practice. WoW has good lore (Mostly), some of the best interpretations of fantasy races (Orcs, Trolls and Elves especially), and characters that could compete with the best of them if they only allowed them to progress in a way that is actually meaningful and interesting. And I'm not asking for complete Grimdark either, I miss the self-awareness and some of the genuinely funny & unserious moments from Cata and Wrath. But WoW now lacks that quality self-awareness and stopped having good jokes for a long time because they're terrified of having any kind of edge or grit to their writing.

[@CoreyRive]

I wish it was like 90% grimdark. As they once said “it’s not world of pillowcraft”.

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

I very much enjoy "The Unseeming" or whatever it was called thematically, but it's basically just watery Ny'alotha again. I doubt Blizzard will be able to do anything worthwhile with all those new hastily brought up story threads.

[@TERRORSHARK]

I'm really hoping for a arathi light fanatic raid, we never got a scarlet crusade raid we need this. I'm just assuming the full empire shows up at some point and is full on fanatical. Would fit in in a season where they remaster the scarlet monastery for m+ too

[@RhobarEisenblut]

Upcoming playable Race: Rat People...

[@mossysnail6857]

Kobold lore was in Hearthstone first i KID YOU NOT.

[@XD0002]

I would enjoy playable Kobolds

[@Vandakai]

I have actually seen some stuff on the Harronir

[@mercuryo3042]

Is this a W40k reference? Edit: I get the reference of the "sacrifice souls to the Emperor" (And I hope they are not less than 1000)

[@braytastic]

Arathi allied race is about to take OVER Goldshire, Half Elves? Guarantee its top 5 played race.

[@elwiseguy69]

I hate it cuz I would def make an Arathi Pally but then I don’t because I know they’ll be flooding the servers.

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

Ironically, I would claim that the ERP'ers would be less inclined to play Half-Elves.

[@Frankthegb]

There won’t be an allied race

[@Vandel96]

I hope that the emporer turns out to be an old king that is perpetually raised into undeath with the light magic every time he dies

[@Junglewarfare]

Beledar and the Arathi, imo is like Oshugun with the orcs. It's a draenei ship similar to the vindicar, exodar, genedar, xenedar. Just like the Vindicaar being powered by light and void in Legion and the quests we did for it. That's why Beledar shifts. Because when Sargeras stabbed azeroth he screwed up the balance of the engine inside. So now the ship draws its power between light and void. But the question is, how long has Beledar been there? Velen and the Draenei came to draenor only 200 yrs ago and came to azeroth much later. Was there another ship from Argus that crash landed on azeroth before them? And what happened to all the space goats on that ship? Also, i liked your headcannon on the Linxes. That's something i never thought about with the high elves.

[@galadrigal7644]

My only gripe really for this expansion is the ‘everyone is best friends’ in all corners of the zones haha. Like you mentioned, a more nuanced and strained relationship with the enemies of our enemies, is far more interesting.

[@BluestCheese]

Isn't that the exact scenario with the spider people? They don't like us, we just both want to coup for different reasons

[@GazingTrandoshan]

@@BluestCheese Alleria was literally aggressive about it too , like how are people missing beats?

[@galadrigal7644]

@@GazingTrandoshan I agree with that, Alleria was definitely hostile and I personally appreciated that story beat, however past that, with the Weaver, Anduin, the Vizier etc, The Nerubians of this expansion really give off the impression of ‘friends’ rather than reluctant allies. Just my opinion. I really do like the expansion as a whole and the world building was excellent.

[@Vandakai]

@@galadrigal7644 Friends? The weaver literally calls you her little morsel.. A friend does not drool over you like food. Although that being said I agree it should be even more strained and sort of like working from the shadows just to get rid of the Xal'Atath lovers. That being said the Nerubians have always been neutral unless the Lich King was involved.

[@majesticslug3399]

Character designs now are... Ick

[@khalduras784]

Ive long given up on wow as a game and a story but PlatinumWoW is the channel that kept me somewhat interested. You are too good for this franchise man

[@Dueling101able]

I’m getting strong Warhammer 40k Vibes from this 🤣🤣

[@thespartanslayer1]

I understand where Blizzard is going with this, and in theory, it all sounds great. However, in practice, it falls off. Everything feels overly Disney-esque and cartoonish. You just dont have that dakr and warcraft feel to the story, no real weight the zone for one looks great but the npcs and everything when the "void crystal event" happens still feels too cartoonish. Thats just my two cents at least and my opinion.

[@Dimumouto]

-What is the Black Blood Its Old God blood. -When does the end of the raid even take place? Before the campaign end cinematic. Blizzard admitted they fucked up with how they did that. -Why does Ascension make Nerubians appear more humanoid? Likely has something to do with the Curse of Flesh; IIRC, Nerubians operate more as a hivemind instead of individuals (correct me if I'm wrong). Making one more of an individual through evolution and giving it more free will can lead to easier domination over them, since you're not having to dominate the *entire* hivemind.

[@mossysnail6857]

it's Yshaarj's blood cause he was the one who was planted the deepest, and why when Aman'thul ripped em' out it was so damaging

[@sepulchore7239]

i would side with emperor ngl. yes im a light fanatic and scarlet crusade did nothing wrong

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

Supremely based.

[@aure9495]

> claim to be a light fanatic > defends a legion aligned faction hmmm 🤔 /lh

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

@@aure9495 The Scarlet Crusade isn't aligned with the Legion. It was subverted by a Dreadlord...two, in fact.

[@Michael-hm8cs]

Fandral Staghelm did nothing wrong

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

@@Michael-hm8cs Eeeeeehh...!

[@Skollshorties]

The Emperor's Favorite flavor of Icecream is: Mint Chip. The best flavor. Obviously.

[@mossysnail6857]

Cave, NOW. NO TINDERBOX. DURING THE SHIFT!

[@Off_Screen]

This begs the question, do the arathi have mint chip ice cream on the Tuesday or the Friday

[@jarifauti4586]

Did you find out whats the favorit ice cream flavor?

[@kei3479-d3q]

Finally I have been waiting expansion s1end for Platinum video does it worth waiting YESSSSS!!!

[@kolinn406]

fr XD

[@samflood5631]

1:25-This is just like the ending of Arya’s character in the Game of Thrones series finale in where she sets sail to find what’s west of Westeros. 3:57-Why is that a forbidden footage? What about some of the bad scenes through the Warcraft series? Should they be considered forbidden footage too? 8:32-That poor adventurer. He was just minding his own business when that Arathi Priest fried him. 10:59-How come the High Elves or Highborne didn’t take any Saber Cats with them to the Eastern Kingdoms when Malfurion exiled them for using Arcane Magic? 11:44-I don’t know which Multiverse Map is convoluted, DC, Marvel or Warcraft’s. 13:05-It seems that Warcraft has taken a lot of “inspiration” from Warhammer. 13:40-I bet that the next 2 games will answer those questions. 14:31-Or the Arathi Emperor could look like Zedd from the Power Rangers, Emperor Nefarious from Ratchet and Clank, Emperor Diaz from Legend of Dragoon, Kain from Soul Reaver, Edelgard’s dad from Fire Emblem Three Houses, the Archon from Dragon Age, the Illithid Emperor from Baldur’s Gate 3, one of the emperors from Final Fantasy 12, 15 or 16 or one of the Skekis from the Dark Crystal.

[@Evan-mt7bc]

When I first came across the Arathi, I'm NGL I thought they were time travelers from the future and the Emperor was a future version of Anduin that didn't get therapy. I think 90% of the War Within lore questions would be answered if they just answered what the fuck a Xal'atath is. Cause she's an old god but she can't be an old god because there's only 4 old gods but she does everything an old god does but she's not an old god. Like they even reused the whole black blood thing with the whole Black Blood of Yshaarj thing and also Cthun and Yogg both have corrupting blood too and Xal'atath also has corrupting black blood like an old god but she's not an old god and honestly this whole thing just needs to be clarified.

[@jesserothhammer7378]

8:19 maybe this is covered later, but if their mages died, and there's resurrected mages in the Priory.... Can't the now risen mages cast portals home? Yes, they'd be abominations and likely killed when the other Arathi arrive for reinforcements, but they're zealots and that should be their jam.

[@Deesar_]

I kind of wish we got more intolerant, complex not nice factions in general. the story writing feels so sloppy because every faction feels so immediately kind and welcoming with no explanation. it should be the case that the earthen, arathi, and nerubians should be a sliding scale of neutral to unfriendly at first.

[@adramahlihko]

I like to think that since the Emperor is so mysterious, there might be some fishy things going on, i theorise from the experience of various other games and writings that its possible that the Emperor may be the original Thoradinn himself or some other original member of the empire, but resurrected as a light undead. Or maybe something that could be closely related to a Light Lich King

[@GothaBillsAndDeath]

FINALLY THE ALLIANCE ARE (potentially if chars with huge grudges against the horde join them) BAD GUYS THIS TIME?!

[@jesserothhammer7378]

14:18 Well their continent is like the previously mentioned Avaloran. Not just because it's been name dropped, but its similarity to "Avalon" in Arthurian legend.

[@Dragonlord7012]

Space Goats: I wonder why no one mentions all those other unnamed land masses you can clearly see out the window of the Vindicator. It's probably not important.

[@BuboStabbins]

Between throwing a Tech Priest dwarf in my face 2 secs after i got to the island, then introducing me to the warcraft embodiment of the Empire, I too wish we could cut the crap and commit.

[@mrraisbeck]

They had some unique lines for my warlock, basically saying the empire wouldn't take kindly to me embracing the shadow

[@wayne20uk]

Dont forget the next expansion is meant to be in Quel'thelas so maybe the Arathi go back home and try to retake Silvermoon and all the lands in between it and Stromgarde

[@SkySlug12]

Me returning to Azeroth: Ok, where are the Space Marines of Azeroth!? Some NPC: A what?

[@NPC-bs3pm]

12:29 "Ok what are some things I don't like about the Arathi... and " Ok NOW the video is getting interesting 😀

[@MattBrain9336]

The big golden and big shadowy crystal visible from anywhere in their respective areas reminds me of Elden Ring's Erdtree and Scadutree Then all these Warhammer 40k concepts like the "Emperor" and the fanatics that are under him The writers of this WOW expansion looked like they copied the most popular games of 2023 and 2024, changed them a bit then smashed them together I'm expecting a Black Myth Wukong something there somewhere

[@JJJBunney001]

That's not how game dev works, especially when shadow of the erdtree came out so close to this. A few months isn't enough for them to copy it and implement it

[@RedOblivion7]

To be perfectly fair, the Warhammer influence was there since day one.

[@aiasioakimidis7089]

Aint no way blizzard actually studied advanced mathematics to create a new view on how the WoW universe works

[@Anlushac11]

Imagine if Ysera opened a "light" portal to Azeroth and joined forces with Arathi Empire in Arathor.

[@runtd7795]

Reading the title I'm really worried because the last time we got some new lore that changed everything it was the jailer

[@Shawgoth]

STOP DOING THE FUCKING SOYJAK MEME THUMBNAIL!!! GOD DAMMIT!!!

[@RatKing2137]

3:05 is actually perfect a pic for modern (souless) vs classic (soul) WoWo lmao

[@SoulHuN7eR]

The Emperor is clearly a Nathrezim send by none other than our good boi Zovaal. 😅

[@Arkaeus04]

So are light infused undead are basically lightforged draeni but undead?

[@Orodreth888]

What about the plane of technology? Huh? My engineer is a devoted tech fanatic. heh

[@nesto2947]

Calling it now. Emperor=dreadlord in meatsuit pulling strings

[@Mexican00b]

that thumbnail aint the most "trick the algorithm" ever i've ever seen!!

[@Toomuchmetal12]

What if the emperor is just Thoradin resurrected with light?

[@CoversIncorporated]

The emperor is a mind flayer duh

[@MrCaptnrex]

13:42 didn't xalatath say the black blood was old god blood, hers?

[@alwaysangry2232]

more lame lore that changes wow for the worse? zzzzzzzzz

[@volvogoodtruck1117]

Still bummed out that Turalyon had minimal interaction with the Arathi and the Arathi.. seemingly in Dornogal.. can actually go back to their.. "Arathi" homeland - or even at least send a message or something.

[@princessmagilou]

even worse, he come to hallowfall to fight against the nerubians with his army of the light, he didnt said anything, no one mentioned anything, he just appear and says 'yea good work - player's name -" and dip out

[@olegezic4209]

14:53 ohhh so thats how u get all the lore info dor your vids? :D

[@JJJBunney001]

Nothing quite like doing an Aegis Wall with the boys

[@Leeloo-Foxx]

that title reads like a bellular video so hard that i had to do a double take

[@farinal]

Are Arathi idioms Azeroth version of brainrot speak lol

[@Slethion]

the crayons bit got me dying

[@elcabron911]

sooooo...... finally undead pala confirmed?^^

[@Tyranno-Bore-Us]

I'm very confused or maybe even intrigued as to what is going on with the west side of Hallowfall. Is it an underground sea? Where does it end? Why is it inaccessible?

[@nataschajordan6053]

its the undersea - like the actual see that was on azeroth before titans build anouther story on top with different continents and another "sea".

[@commandervulkan]

Finally a faction for the Warhammer players

[@jiwoonhakluvr]

day has been made, platinum wow uploaded.

[@revash88]

THE VIDEO THUMBNAIL 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@yhorm1837]

WOW reminds me of that quote from Thanos "you could not live with your own failure where did that bring you back to me" they saw the mess and horrible decisions they made in warcraft lore over the years and went back to copying elements from warhammer AGAIN

[@AndrewMFAult]

Beledar is totally the Arathi PoV of Belore.

[@arkuniel998]

banger thumbnail honestly

[@wesleyvl8572]

Keep up your vidoes dude you rock

[@msf47]

i think they should stay with the simple way of storytelling like in Legion or Wrath because i still remember the mess that was Shadowlands

[@JJJBunney001]

There's no difference with how they tell the story, between those expacs, just the content of the stories themselves

[@GazingTrandoshan]

Tbh them doing expacs ahead as a arc is the best thing to keep things tonally right , like it FEELs like we are actually in the expac after legion , DF was alright but def was the bandaid till they got off there feet beach episode

[@JPJgamer]

Warcraft's new irrelevant lore because the story ended with the fall of the Lich King.

[@brothatisfunny]

So... They gonna rename it to the central kingdons?

[@mossysnail6857]

Arathian Provinces

[@hanscakestealer8546]

Good lord whatever happened to just humans fighting orcs

[@DraphEnjoyer]

Yeah lets have 30 years of that same exact story over and over again. Thats much better

[@ComicalConqueror]

Warcraft 3 happened, mongrel

[@Voxflux]

There is nothing wrong with simple, more grounded stories. Not everything needs to be some grand comic scale epic.​@@DraphEnjoyer

[@JJJBunney001]

That stopped being a thing in what... warcraft 2? So about 29 years ago, warcraft was never just about that

[@Voxflux]

@JJJBunney001 i would argue against that. If that really was the case, Vanilla/OG WoW would not have had such a heavy focus on faction based theme and story from some of the quest given.

[@RedneckMage]

13:10 While i realize you only have references you know... but Saying wow is copying warhammer is a little inane... considering warhammer is basically Conan of Cimmeria....

[@magnosouza9808]

So wow has his own Big E

[@Adragim]

This is what has been bothering me since forever, the tax structures of Azeroth!!!!!! never explained, never shown, no books on it, seriously what happens with my AH gold???? Why no intrest in the banks???!!!!!

[@birdiebird6297]

It'd be cool and original for Blizzard to give the Emperor say like 20 sons or so, and each son gets to command their own army of sons. Then idk, like half of the sons or so turn to the void and the Emperor gets mortally wounded by his favorite son and gets stuck on the throne or something? Then without his leadership everyone starts to become really racist and zealous and slay anyone who doesn't believe in the light or look like them? Just spitting some random original ideas

[@Mochachocakon]

Another worry is over complicating the "cosmic forces" lore which has already been a bit of a miss, in ALL of Blizzard's franchises. People want lore and stories that are grounded and relatable, not these impossible to fathom battles involving reality shaping forces. Somehow, even WH40K never managed to go that far.

[@kotetamer]

I'd argue that the emperor and the arathi are less warhammer 40k and more wheel of time. They have a very Aiel feeling to them and the history is very similar to that. Additionally several quests in Hallowfall are named after Wheel of time books.