The Butcher & The Surgeon | Jujutsu Kaisen

Let's talk about how Yuji and Sukuna are polar opposites and how that manifests in the way they use Jujutsu.
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[@ManganimistYT]

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[@shelf2-cj1gs]

Yea sure

[@ghostrhinorhino4287]

I do believe in the evil megami theory. Megami will trap sukuna instead of yuji prob with a binding vow and sum help from yuji on the outside. He will pop the merger and will be the final boss. I wonder what happens when you. Mix all Ten Shadows into one. There are still some tricks up the sleeve for the ten shadows.

[@g-go2321]

The forshadowing I just came across for the Sukuna uncle reveal in chapter 184 is insane.

[@dantens2010]

I was meaning to ask you, if Sukana’s shrine is based on a kitchen or cooking, what would Yuji’s be based on?? Someone asked it 💪🏾

[@afanisthedolphin]

Microwave Open In approximately 10 years Sukuna will die from a deadly cancer

[@gustavopereira4924]

Airfryer OPEN In 30 minutes, if Sukuna stands still, He will die.

[@rishabhthakur8112]

Or it's the atomic bomb equivalent 💀 Hiroshima flashbacks

[@rishabhthakur8112]

American Yuji ngl 💀

[@NadiaHylnaQ970]

umm ackhschually, microwave radiation is non-ionizing, meaning you can't get cancer from it 🤓☝️

[@mustafacemaksu4706]

bro microwaves don't give you cancer

[@allenryder]

A surgeon cuts to save life Whilst A butcher cuts to end life (also to cut meat in parts for meals to be cooked)

[@shelf2-cj1gs]

Well said

[@Raja-iq5pn]

yuji's flames = cauterization yuji's hands are enveloped in flames, which can add to the power of his punches by burning sukuna

[@Lugon-Hirn]

Damn i was actually thinking about that

[@BoyceB-ec5xh]

Yeah you pretty much got it on points yuji's cursed technique is basically between life and death, a skilled surgeon navigating the fine line of healing and harms. Conversely sukuna's technique embodies raw power and ruthlessness efficiency resembling the Swift and decisive Strokes of a Butchers blade cutting through obstacles without hesitation. But are they so different yuji and sukuna appear to be Polar Opposites in terms of their Cursed techniques but sukuna can't find love or rather meaning in other than fighting and yuji hates fighting because it means the death of others thats why he never smiles while fighting , anyone can be butcher but not anyone can be a surgeon, sukuna took the easier route

[@shelf2-cj1gs]

​@@BoyceB-ec5xhI hope ya'll getting A's on your english tests jeez 😂

[@Clockwork_Enby]

“Microwave open” 💀💀💀

[@obe1_kenobi]

"Air fryer open"💀💀

[@k3nt0b3nt0]

Instead of flames, it’s radiation 💀💀

[@CoolOkay_]

​@@k3nt0b3nt0 bros gonna give Sukuna cancer

[@Vestige_]

IVE BEEN SAYING THIS

[@lemonbread2165]

Faucet open

[@SupaTuffGong]

Half expecting Yuji's version of fire to be a laser beam.

[@user-og7pj4ut6u]

It's prob gonna be a bullet but the laser would be cooler

[@mr_0n10n5]

Laser will be in line with Yuji, including techniques he referenced in the begining of JJK like spirit gun

[@jimshotfirst4887]

Probably working similar to Piercing Blood

[@gmodiscool14]

Gonna be some anime reference lol

[@thenamesmimic7338]

Also works cuz surgeons use lasers sometimes as well.

[@Mcmuffinwaffle]

I think the flashbacks are an important detail people forget. Yuuji give people memories of a fulfilled life. Sakuna gives people a fulfilled death.

[@masterroshi690]

thats awesome way to put it

[@Mania476]

Itadori is bound to have some wild technique interpretations if he's watching things like Human Earthworm 4 in his spare time😭 Wouldn't be surprised if he thought of cooking as roasting weenies over a nuclear reactor or something lol

[@taylor15games]

Praying to see Yuji casually turn Sukuna into a worm in the upcoming chapters 😂

[@Donnie126]

@@taylor15gamesLeto II type shit

[@cycy8699]

the 20 glizzies special

[@MugenHeadNinja]

@@Donnie126 Based GEoD enjoyer.

[@metalface_villain]

yuji is the black barber that gives u the mathematical line up and sukuna is the turkish barber that puts smoke and that white square jello and slaps you as he cuts your hair

[@rdoee3558]

Perfectly said

[@wolfwing123]

Screamingggg at this🤣🤣🤣🤣sukuna deffo that guy to slap the absolute shite outta ur headpiece🗿

[@sparkymotive]

Yuji bout to bust out the Air Fryer and dry out Sukuna's lips!

[@victorrezende7207]

Why are people saying the fire arrow is part os sukuna's CT? Both times he used it were right after using the domain, and he and gojo couldn't use CT's right after domains I think it's more likely something to do with the domain itself, maybe when he uses the shrine he can "open" things from it

[@delta2370]

I was wondering how his ct isn’t burnt out after malevolent shrine aswell.

[@ManganimistYT]

Victor thank you so much for the support! So this is a great question that I've actually gotten a lot recently, and tbh I just don't think we have enough information to know why it works this way yet. I think it most likely has to do with how Shrine operates as a CT, perhaps 'opening' it up operates differently than how we understand 'normal' CTs and burnout to work. It may be that it has a different 'Cooldown' if that makes sense. Or in the same way the black sparks opened up the pathway to the Domain, maybe they also opened up a new pathway to the Fire Arrow. It could have something to do with the domain, but remember he did at least use it against Jogo without doing a domain. Hopefully we'll find out more in the next chapter!

[@artacun0596]

yuji stocks still going up ngl

[@enderking6904]

Diamond hands!

[@taylor15games]

Seeing the Man Match Sukuna in hand to hand, weaken him with each impact, land 8 black flashes consecutively, Simple domain the majority of his full output domain and then Just healing his foot that got Cut off in the same page. Bro had the most profitable stocks

[@lemillion7929]

Can we go much higherrrr

[@KunkyStuwart]

@@taylor15games im pretty sure it was 7 consecutive black flashes since one was sukuna using black flash on him

[@taylor15games]

@@KunkyStuwart im actually of the belief that it was 8 but understand the belief it was 7, the panel focuses on Sukunas Hand and then in the next the black flash is already landed, I think based on Yuji's Position he either blocked Sukunas Black flash with his arm or Yuji Punches and black flashed Sukunas Hand and Launched it backwards.

[@LloydLatelang]

I love this whole viewpoint on the contrast between yuji and sukuna along with the whole difference in the shrine technique due to the different eras and differences in the individual self in a whole causing the whole sukuna the butcher and yuji the surgeon

[@tatersalad76]

Yuji is about to counter Sukuna with "Air Fryer: Open."

[@tobi-xo3if]

Air Fryer: Open... Air Fried Chicken Blast

[@dendralen]

Oh, yuji reversal of cleave might stitch gojo back together.

[@saikofortytwo7526]

😭😭😭

[@GingeryGinger]

Sukuna revived Yuji after ripping his heart out.

[@LadyRobin03]

I think with Shrine, it's themed specifically as a kitchen and stuff for Sukuna, while it'll be more of a hospital/morgue for Yuji. This works because the translation for Shrine can mean a literal shrine, or a kitchen. I think Yuji's theme will lean more into the literal shrine aspect, a place to mourn and honor the dead. It makes sense with Yuji's character, and because he was in both a hospital and a morgue in the beginning of the series when his grandfather died. His fire arrow could even be like the cremation of remains.

[@NimmoLight]

Transcendent Mental Analysis. Dismantle physically takes material objects apart, its complement mentally takes jujutsu apart. It’s opposite maybe a creative reinterpretation. Sukuna sees Kenjaku perform cursed object creation once and mentally dismantles the jujutsu to comprehend it. Next, he’s able to do the opposite of dismantle to ‘reinterpret’ the technique into 20 separate cursed object fingers.

[@fernandotrevinocastro1018]

Before the kitchen theme I thought shrine was dismantling and the reversal putting together: Sukuna breaking apart someone technique and then incorporating it to his own. But now I think the opposite of "cooking and consuming someone for your benefit" is more like "sharing a meal or experiences" the thing he literally made like 3 people do.

[@biglocc2209]

I love this take. Especially how even down to his punches yuji is using crazy precision

[@ChristianMay21]

If cleave/dismantle splits things, what if its reversal merges things? It might be really interesting for the story if Yuji somehow merged himself with Megumi/Sukuna to create a shared body - kicking off a 3-way struggle of souls to take control of the body, and allowing Yuji to directly speak with and motivate Megumi.

[@ManganimistYT]

Christian thank you so much for the support man! Yeah I could totally see this, it feels like it makes sense mechanically and thematically. Also someone pointed out that cleave can also mean to put together, so that's really interesting as well! 👀

[@animegoat9]

Guys if there is technique reversal of shrine he technically could put gojo back together and was cutted in half by the dimensional slash its still a buffed up cleave so he could have revived gojo

[@paleking]

I’ll take a stab at a wild theory just to see if it has legs later. Maybe we’ve already seen the reversal as a combining technique. Sukuna used a nasty curse marinade to adapt to Megumi’s body, which is cooking themed. Maybe the literal concoction isn’t the technique but kind of the binding vow conditions to make his reversal usage more effective and Sukuna’s helper is the best person at preparing that for him. So instead of cleave and dismantle, we have something more like stir or mix. He uses it not to separate something into pieces but to consume or combine things into himself.

[@wannabewallaby3248]

i really like your interpretation of the differences between Yuji and Sukuna’s Shrine technique, i hadn’t really thought of the implications of the differences until now, and I think you’re spot on in the theming. My personal theory is that the technique brings forth aspects of the place where the user feels most comfortable or has the most sentimental attachment, with Sukuna’s “Shrine” being a kitchen and Yuji’s a school. I think it makes sense with Yuji being a teenager at this point and having spent most of his life in school, having met all of the most important people in his life in school, and his “Cleave and Dismantle” being denoted by safety scissors and a dotted line much like you’d see in a classroom as an arts and crafts assignment. Following this theme, I think it would be really interesting if Yuji didn’t necessarily have a “Fire Arrow” of his own as schools don’t typically have furnaces, but maybe a “Janitor’s Closet” (lol) or something where he could pull out a technique to extinguish Sukuna’s fires, further adding to the theme of those two being two sides of the same coin. Where Sukuna’s shrine serves solely to destroy, Yuji’s may be used to clean up Sukuna’s messes in a sense.

[@EUM_NEMESIS]

Since Yuji's Cleave and Dismantle are symbolized through cut-out lines like that of cut-out templates perhaps the reversal could be using "glue" to put something or someone back together in a more efficient way than using RCT on someone else. Got your arm or leg cut off? No problem, just have to "glue" it back on instead of regenerating it from the stump. Also, it would be really cool if Yuji forms the Kamino Fuga into a sniper rifle or uses it similarly to how he and Choso shoot the high velocity piercing blood.

[@tamavehemental6701]

This makes sense since he already reattached his leg.

[@JohnBrown-pe5jk]

I have been enjoying your content after discovering you a few months ago. My question is if hitting consecutive black flashes has shown to rewire neural pathways in the brain (via Sukuna & Gojo) do we thinking hitting enough of them / hitting a "white flash" with RCT could create other physiological changes similar to Gojo's Six Eyes or other features? TL; DR do you think hitting enough black flashes can give someone a fake Six-Eyes or other enhanced physical features?

[@ManganimistYT]

John thank you so much for the support man! I talk about this in my latest video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4GrY2V7mNmNqK8

[@jonarhax3388]

Yuji's ctr is definitely gonna be stitching people up based on the scissor lines being the same when surgery is done, and maybe he can stitch up someone cut in half

[@tamavehemental6701]

🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

[@JusArcadian]

Sukuna and Yuji having the same technique and it being different due to their views of the world reminds me of how Shirou and Archers Reality Marble change due to how they both view the world

[@wynstonreeves7945]

Thanks! This might be a hard one but who is tsmuki parents like who raised her kinda off topic from what’s going on

[@ManganimistYT]

Wynston thank you so much! I talk about this in my latest video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3qkf6CYhalgf6s

[@jordonsomers6978]

Cleave and dismantle reversal Could be the joining of objects and things with and without cursed energy. Like regeneration And how this could play in the possible benevolent shrine, is that all attacks or damage done, is regenerated. So for if sukuna were to cut Yuji, Yuji would immediately heal from it, as he's reformed his damaged body using the reversal of cleave Even if Maki takes damage in the domain, she'd quickly recover from the reversal of dismantle. If this is backed by RCT, then he could even heal people that had entered the domain with injuries And if that's possible, combining the cursed technique reversal and RCT, and Yuji could then theoretically manipulate the soul by either healing it, separating it or joining it to something else. So helping Megumi to regain his mental strength and separating him from sukuna, can all be possible in this benevolent shrine idea

[@ChristianMay21]

Regarding the reversal of cleave/dismantle - by cutting, cleave/dismantle split one thing into two. The reversal could merge two things into one. Just imagine if Yuji used it to re-combine himself with Sukuna and struggle to take control of their shared body - a single body split between three souls (Yuji, Sukuna, and Megumi). This seems like a very good way - narratively - for Yuji to try to save Megumi. This might also give an additional possible explanation for Sukuna's appearance - maybe the extra arms, etc, aren't from his twin, but from merging with someone else.

[@No_one448]

Sukuna is not only evilmaxxing, he's also looksmaxxing. Yuji on the other hand (get it) is not only fistmaxxing, but also victimmaxxing

[@Ghost-Toast819]

So I sent another super chat on another video cause I’ve gotten confused. Is yuji and sukuna able to store or copy abilities from others in their shrine ability? And if so is it possible that Yuji could bring todo’s boogie woogie back if he ate his finger or something?

[@ManganimistYT]

Hey Bet, just responded to your original super comment but just wanted to say please don't feel like you have to donate twice for the same question! It can take me up to a week to get to questions just depending on how many I have and what's going on in the manga. I also typically go in order that I get requests but I'll sometimes go out if there are similar questions to group up or if theres something relevant to the manga. So just for future reference didn't want you to think I had missed it! I'll post my response to this one too though so you don't have to go search up the other one: So it all depends on how shrine actually works, its still a mystery for now, but IF it can steal and capture other people's techniques, then yes theoretically Yuji could copy Boogie Woogie Thank you again for the support! 🙏🏻

[@Ghost-Toast819]

@@ManganimistYT oh that makes sense. Happy to support either way you do a great job with the content. I wasn’t sure if I did the first one right so I figured I’d try again. Thanks for the response. Didn’t mean to come off pushy😂

[@ManganimistYT]

@@Ghost-Toast819 you didn’t! I just wanted to make sure you didn’t think I was ignoring you

[@Ghost-Toast819]

@@ManganimistYT nope you’re good. Thanks for the communication it really shows your intent😄👍

[@dolo8811]

Gege never introduced Hanami's domain expansion, so I wonder if Yuji will have some sort of domain expansion that incorporates the earth? Trees etc. are symbolic for growth/rebirth and resilience. No matter how many times you cut down nature, it will grow back and overcome. It's fitting because no matter how many times Sukuna has cut Yuji down, Yuji comes back, and that bothers the hell out of Sukuna.

[@_Giggush_]

One aspect of Yuji's CT that's has kinda been overlooked now that he has Shrine is the Death Painting part. We know the Death Paintings are inspired by a Buddhist style of painting that depicts the 9 stages of decomposition. Considering how Yuji has RCT now the Reverse of those Techniques, assuming they're in some way related to their stage of decomposition, would combo very well with this interpretation of Yuji's Shrine!

[@merP.-YT]

If we keep with the kitchen thing, maybe the reversal would be along the lines of mixing bowl or kneading? If cleave and dismantle can be used indiscriminately cut and break things down then mixing bowl/kneading would be to recombine things in an alternate form. To remake or reshape things.

[@merP.-YT]

You could think also in the sense of link's fuse ability from totk. Where he could use it to make cursed tools

[@tamavehemental6701]

To reshape Todo's soul so his hands regrow and he recovers the boogie woogie. Todo gave Yuuji hopes in his darkest moment. In this way he could do something in return (and hopefully be less eager to offer himself as a sacrifice, having an useful CT to fix some of Sukuna's/Mahito's messes instead)

[@wrexonus]

In like chapters where Yuji starts to learn with Gojo, we see him mention ideas like a spirit gun. Just saying that Fire Arrow for Yuji might be a Fire Bullet.

[@fhadilnahal9556]

"I AM A SURGEON" -Itadori probably

[@dylansmith231]

Small part of me thinks that the reversal of shrine could be the the soul disrupting punches. Shrine being able to adapt and adopt curse techniques being flipped (to me) would be to disrupt and doing away with like yuji has been doing to sukunas cursed energy in this fight

[@blankx15]

Yuji:Domain Expansion: Excision ( removes Sukunas soul. ) Although those lines and scissor in Yuji’s “cleave” looks more like a tailor. Speaking from experience.

[@Jackbayoelord]

5:08 i would assume that the Doctor's equivalent to the fire arrow is carterizing to mend ones body and stop the bleeding from their body to open blood vessel. I could see yuji using especially after what happened to his leg .

[@jacobc246]

Cauterize, or more likely for going all out getting rid of curses: sterilize. Working in biology to sterilize things we put them in an extreme temperature extreme pressure machine called an autoclave. I mean it kind of sounds like cleave but more importantly it's getting rid of diseases with fire.

[@alexanderwang540]

I just realized an additional detail. Yuji using the black flash might as well act as a harsh defibrillator to bring Megumi back. The hits also keep landing in the same spot.

[@meowsquared]

If Sukuna's slashes are cleave and dismantle, then maybe Yuji's reversal of it would be assemble and mend. One, which pieces and stitches things together, and another which reinforces them. Yuji could use it in a bunch of really creative ways, like to stitch a person's limbs together to immobilize them without killing them, or to create and reinforce barriers with his terrain. Or more obviously, to restore peoples' wounds.

[@chan63352]

If Yuji's ct reversel forces individual aspects of it's technique, reversel of scissors could be glue. like sticking back the cut of legs, gluing extra arms with full functionality, or gluing Gojo's eyes on himself without losing their functionality.

[@phewphew8143]

Its weird seeing someone share theories I made. When it was confirmed dismantle/cleave can target concepts like space. I made a theory that if Yuji inherits it he can use it to target space between megumi and sukuna's soul. His fist already has the same effecy so why not his slashes. I made the theory before it was confirmed he has shrine. Also made a theory that dismantle/cleave reversal can stitch souls together. Again due to them being able to target concepts. But I made the theory that Sukuna was the one going to use the reversal to help Megumi and his soul become one. Because due to Yuji's attack weakening them.

[@MrPoseidon0366]

I thought that the scissors with the dotted line also represented how Yuji is still learning shrine. Just as when you’re a kid you have the same pattern when learning to cut with scissors.

[@justsomeotherguywithamusta6810]

Just how Sukuna used Dismantle to target space, Yuji could also use Dismantle to target something more ethereal and conceptual, he may learn to target the soul with dismatle or even further he might learn to target the barrier between souls of Soyboy megumi and Sukuna

[@Spoden]

Just a random thought that I've had for a while, thought I'd bring it up here because you mentioned reversals in the video: I feel like the reverse of blood manipulation would be soul manipulation, or idle transfiguration. This would be fitting ESPECIALLY because of the interactions we've seen between Yuji and Mahito ("I am you.")

[@dloading..]

I think yuji’s interpretation of dismantle is going to be a sword not a knife. His cleave is scissors because of placing the hand on the thing you wish to cut but dismantle being a sword will be far stronger than sukunas kitchen knife. Hopefully Yuji upgrades his shrines with binding vows or something in the future as he’s witnessing sukuna do it all and he knows it’s possible but it’s different in obtaining because they aren’t the same in the mental aspect

[@dalcedarry8863]

I like the title 👍 that's the right way to see it, The butcher Kill and the surgeon save with precision, that's why Yuji technique is so precise, can't wait to see his aspect of dismantle.

[@Godzillawolf1]

I could see the Reversal of Furnace being a form of water manipulation or projection, representing washing food. But likely Sukuna wouldn't like using that because water isn't as destructive of an element as fire, and he rarely uses Furnace unless he needs to or thinks it's ironically funny. Yuji, however, I could see getting a lot of milage out of that, especially if he were to use it to say counter Furnace by extingishing the flames.

[@ethanwalker3392]

Bro a little bit of cooking

[@gryxz]

Freezer

[@Drip_Wooper]

water is also often association with cleansing and purifications, which would be fitting since its the opposite of what the King of Curses do (corrupts and consumes everything he touches), it makes sense tbh, but I personally think this role of 'purifying what Sukuna has tainted' was already fufilled by Angel, as little screen time as they had, so idk. Maybe reversal of 'Furnace' will also be related to burning, but with simple plain heat instead of actual uncontrollable flames, so they can be fully manipulated them and use them for beneficial purposes, you know, instead of focusing on the destructive part of heat (Flames), the reversal would do the exact opposite (duh) and focus on the good parts of heat (like the preservation of life and/or generation of light). Idk I managed to express what I wanted to say lol EDIT) I guess to summarize it: Regular -> Offensive Heat, impossible to fully control just let it loose and see it explode, can only harm. Focuses on death Reversal -> Defensive Heat, easy to control, can only do good. Focuses on stopping death would also make sense as to why Sukuna never used it, since he probably would think of such ability as disgusting and only belonging to the weak that care too much for others.

[@clgcrew6112]

So sukuna rct could be washing dishes😂

[@vuelle9816]

Dismantle reversal might allow for two completely separate things to connect in an unnatural way. Basically just magic super glue

[@victorvirgili4447]

Idea: Since Shrine has 2 techniques, one cut-based and one fire-based, maybe the reversals would swap the roles? I’ll only talk about Sukuna’s interpretation of the slices and Open, because Yuji’s interpretation is too vague for now. So, with Dismantle and Cleave cutting apart, perhaps their reversal uses heat “slashes” to weld things together. It could be used for welding enemies onto the ground, sticking them to a wall, deterring them in general, etc. aka stuff Sukuna doesn’t care about and wouldn’t use, explaining why he hasn’t shown it. Open, now, is a fire arrow with a huge explosion radius, so taking the reverse of that could be a fast, piercing projectile or, to better follow the cooking theme, a huge slamming attack that crushes a huge area, like a giant meat mallet.

[@tahjfrancis5213]

Great vid. My hypothetical take on reverse curse technique for both characters while keeping in theme is that sukuna is blending (blender) while yuji is sewing (stitches). In a way that's actually represent both respected characters selfish and selfishness characteristics. Sukuna can find a way to "blend" techniques to make himself stronger while yuji can stitch people or himself lost limbs or wounds so they can keep fighting; Now the problem with this is that Yuji have blood manipulation where he demonstrated that similar ability in this week chapter or was that rct can't remember. But that's just my take, the story can go anywhere with their abilities, both mirror and also different from one another.

[@theguy892]

Yuji Open "glock 17" Like spirit gun lol

[@Azilythe]

If Yuji's interpretation effects both his technique and his domain, and if the end of the fight is going to be Yuji opening his domain, then I can see him using his domain as surgical cuts that specifically target the divide between the body and the soul, just like all his physical attacks have been, in fact, that might have been the reason his attacks have been able to effect the soul all this time, because he had been using his technique subconsciously on all his attacks.

[@obliviontheshadowgod6204]

with yujis usage of the slashes being visualized as scissors say he did get a cursed technique reversal using the same modern view of scissors as a base sewing comes to mind scissors to cut and a sewing needle to make stitches to reassemble something now i wonder what sukunas version of this hypothetical mending reversal would be visualized as since his version of shrine is rooted in violence

[@Jefftheman]

what's your favorite type of soup?

[@Zytotoxin]

i just got a theory on what sukunas technique really does what i think shrine is is that it allows the user to take the techniques of a person/curse that they eat thru a ritual of sorts and that the slash/cleave technique was jins who he ate in the womb, maybe the fire itself is the technique with him having to defeat someone with it to be able to take their technique. slash/cleave could also be an inherited technique which is why yuji actually has it.

[@tauanwerneck3197]

Talking about the reversal of Shrine being regurgitating and vomiting, Yuji does "vomit" blood on Sukuna's face to attack him. Foreshadowing maybe?

[@Outragousfellow85]

I had a theory that cleave and dismantle reversal would be a type of "Mend". I was really hoping he would mend someone else's hand onto himself so he could complete two-handed signs again. Also, this kind of could be what we see Yuji do with his foot. Even more crazy idea depending on how well Yuta copied Shrine and if mending things is the reversal, we got ourselves a way to put some people back together

[@purple-47]

you are joking? it's just blood manipultation plus RCT, I'm pretty sure Choso did something similar too.

[@arghscuffelbut3226]

My moneys on a kind of "Paste" to effectively stitch up two separate portions of an object

[@xyannail4678]

My only doubt/inquiry is... Where will Megumi's soul go after getting out of his own body? Will Sukuna get out? Will both get separated in their respective original bodies? Or will one of the two permanently disappear or Sukuna will be exorcised?

[@boxlunch18]

I kind of think that Cleveland dismantle are the reversals enshrine maybe put stuff back together

[@lilkimbu2817]

might be your best vid

[@GundamPharmacist]

I think Yuji's fire, going with the surgeon vs butcher theming, and how considerate and cautious Yuji is, would be more like a cauterizing flame that seals wounds rather than the immolation of Sukuna's.

[@siddhantchauhan1975]

Also love if yuji names the reversal and it’s like glue or something dumb cause yuji perceives the slashes as scissors so glue sticks would fit the reversal. Also if ur right about surgery imagine if his domain being like the op op no mi with room

[@tamavehemental6701]

Malevolent Shrine vs. Operation Room.

[@JJ_does_art]

Theory: If the reversal of cleave is a healing type ability allowing for the user to put things back together and Yuji tries using this on Gojo, do you think it's possible it could bring Gojo back?

[@superkamiguru2576]

If there was a reversal it might be closer to “stitching”. Bringing two things together and adding onto the more surgical theme

[@KhanChinggus]

I just interpreted it as Yuji being hesitant with shrine. The technique killed hundreds of thousands in Shibuya, and he, for a while, felt responsible. He still has some residual hesitation. Yuta used the technique in the same way Sukuna did, and he doesn't exactly have the same mindset. Also, CRAZY THEORY. Uraume is somehow related to the reversal of Sukuna's cursed technique. If it turns out that Sukuna can somehow manipulate or give others cursed techniques, that would be pretty interesting. For instance, Uraume is using a somewhat reversal of Sukuna's fire arrow. The opposite of use (Sukuna USES his opponents and COOKS his meals, quite literally) is preservation. Could maybe explain why Sukuna and Uraume are so cordial with each other. Farfetched theory but idk.

[@BlankBlonk]

It's definitely far fetched to assume sukuna can reverse or give people cursed techniques But it's not far fetched to assume he also likes uraume because of the ability to use ice as a preservative since he's all about food as both a metaphor and a literal thing

[@KhanChinggus]

@@BlankBlonk like i said, it's a far fetched theory with no real backing in the series. i've been right about SOME things before though, so I just wanna put this out there in case it comes true.

[@_KillerD_]

The line cuts looks like a pc image cut Then the reversal could be merging or grouping objects

[@DAmaterasa]

For reversal of cleave and dismantle i would say, since you brought up surgeon, then it would be stitching. Fits too because it could analogous too butcher’s twine like used when roasting chicken or a meat log (idk what it’s called can’t remember). I actually think Yuuji’s version of the fire arrow will be like a blow torch used for caramelizing sugar on creme brûlée (also very precise and controlled to fit Yuuji’s interpretation)

[@aydentardif]

Reversal is gonna be like suture/stitches and reconstruct

[@unlimitedtimez341]

Sukana also likely shows where he is going to cleave its just that we cant see it. You can guess this because of how he talks to mahoraga during their fight, he gets exited as he can 'see' sukanas technique (the markings). Its also why he doesnt fall for the proceeding fakes sukana throws because he can see the technique

[@jizzycart]

Yuji's fire/heat aspect of his shrine technique could be something to do with cauterization which would stick with the more surgical interpretation of his cleave and dismantle. I think this coincides nicely with the requirement to use cleave and dismantle before using the fire because it would be like Yuji needs to surgically cut something before cauterizing it. Cauterizing is used to mend wounds and although a technique like this is pointless to use against Sukuna, I think thats exactly why Yuji has not utulized it against him thus far. I also think this fits with his character and his want/need to save people. Along with your idea about yuji being able to cut Megumi's soul free from Sukuna, I think it is possible that if Yuji did utilize cauterization as a part of his Shrine that maybe he could mend the wounds that Megumi's soul has suffered.

[@xyannail4678]

Revser of Cleave & Dismantle will dissect Go/jo back to life 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥!!!

[@Warforged644]

Microwave: Nuke

[@gentlepeeps3351]

It’s also cool how yujis slashes can’t be fired from what we seen and how he actually has to make contact maybe that might allow a higher output to his shrine relative to his level

[@danielnowka7548]

Maybe cursed technique reversals only apply to techniques that are “simple” in nature. Limitless pulls, reversal is pushing. Same with kenjaku. Since shrine has multiple elements like cutting and fire, it might not have a reversal

[@sterbern2357]

Surgeon vs Butcher. I like that. It's poetic, in a way. Also, the Reversal could be interesting. Imagine Yuji pulling out Mend and Assemble for... whatever application that may have.

[@shaystation3406]

There are 2 reversals? I only remember red from gojo

[@truetoo6427]

Maybe the reversal is paste or glue where he sticks or fuses things together

[@DecoyZ]

I do have a question was Yuji ALWAYS going to get Shrine? I assume Jins technique or would be technique wouldnt be shrine since him and Sukuna are twins.. but also since they are twins they're biologically the same so maybe the CT part of their brain is also identical? meaning that since Yuji is biologically Sukunas child as well he was always destined to have some form of Shrine we dont know that much about how CT change between generations right? Like not every Zenin has 10 shadows so what chooses which techniques they get why didnt Yuji get Kenjakus gravity technique or body swap technique or whatever other technique he had and I assumed Yuji only got shrine because he was bathed in Sukunas CE but also since they're now biologically related this has given me some questions.. was Shrine always there just unawakened? and what about other sorcerers, their abilities didnt seem to take long to awaken so why did Yujis take 16 years to? Was it repressed by Kenjaku? or simply because he didnt know about CE It has only been 6 months I think since he got introduced to Jujutsu, so maybe he always had shrine and you just need a few months of training to activate your CT Blood manipulation was given by consuming the curses so i dont think thats biological.. but actually that reminds me of my OG theory for Yujis CT what if Yujis CT still isnt truly Shrine, but instead an absorption ability that allows him to copy any energy thats in his system he ate part of sukuna so gained shrine he ate the CW so he gained blood manip or maybe Shrine allows you to eat and adapt abilities? idk theres still a lot of questions around this

[@maplejelli3665]

The comparison did make me think about how if Sukuna uses his flames to cook as a butcher, Itadori's flames might be more about cauterizing wounds, represented by healing flames or something similar.

[@kafkaxjean]

just like how gojo combines his red and blue it forms the purple hollow , so what would happen if sukuna combined his both cleave and dismantle?

[@xxhoshinoxx-rr1yg]

Slash hollow lol

[@Thrillr]

1:07 1:32 this is type of information in lore that get me hyped. "It's Poetic" 😂

[@neitomonoma4699]

1:16 I think Toji resurrection proved than body and soul are the same. Even Geto strangling Kenjaku right after was about the same, am I wrong?

[@Inquisitron]

Wild with the slashes 😂 made me chuckle

[@routey13]

I could see yuji getting some soul cutting slash type thing to mirror the world cutting slash

[@mr.ghostly9318]

Isn’t the opposite of o kitchen like a hospital because it’s like 100%sanitized an a place were things are repaired

[@divyanshuverma2442]

Maybe Yuji will be the one to teach Sukuna about love. Sukuna emphasizes on being laser focused on your ideals to reach the realms of Gojo satoru while he was beating the shit out of Jogo. Yuji will directly counter this philosophy and show him that helping and protecting people is a valid philosophy to attain absolute mastery over jujutsu sorcery.

[@jefky]

I wonder how the dismantle will be represented or even if Yuji will have dismantle. I remember that in the manga panel where sukuna's cleave and dismantle were explained, two different kitchen knives were represented, one for each technique, so I guess for dismantle Yuji would have another kitchen utensil instead of scissors. Also it is funny that Yuji has a kitchen related technique because I remember that yuji has been mentioned to be a good cooker earlier in the manga.

[@artypyrec4186]

Feel like this is leading up to Yuji and Sukuna souls becoming one and actually.becoming the honored one.

[@bryantbeach8105]

I wonder If the scissors imagery means there are two separate slashes coming from two directions on an object like an actual set of scissors

[@thanos3347]

The reversal could be a blunt kitchen utensil Dismantle-meat pounder Cleave-meat mallet

[@pr_manager]

Well if the “normal” is pulling items out of the shrine perhaps the reversal is storing items within it?

[@darrellsimon4462]

Cleave and dismantle...the reversal cohesion and adhesion or combine and fuse

[@unknownconfusion6633]

Remember guys, when twins born the world treats them as 1 person, meaning their talent will be split(from maki & mai storyline) this could definitely mean that when sukuna dies yuji will be stronger. I know their not twins but they both have the shrine technique.🧐🤔

[@kristophershephard7359]

Gojo heads going nuts now Surgeon Benevolent Shrine

[@artypyrec4186]

I mean Yuji can already use his blood to stitch himself back together so the reversal of cleave would have to work on other things so I guess as a counter to something already cut, like a stappler or stitches if sticking with the scissor theme.

[@MrSoultoYou]

Based off context that the flames comes from the "kitchen" and the fire arrow is just the "method" of use, similar to piercing blood style of Max Elephants CT. Im curious to see yugi will use the flames. I would not be surprised to see an air fryer attack at this point lol

[@alextheshinymonkey]

It looks like "shrine" (or cerimonial kitchen, which would be a more accurate translation) is Sukuna's interpretation of an underlying technique. Yuji is developing his own interpretation of that technique and it doesn't look like his will be cooking related, so I'm expecting a different name, but more importantly, I'm expecting different abilities in all aspects. What is weird though is that this is mostly only happening with this technique. Yuji is learning blood manipulation in a very similar way as Choso. Why isn't there such a difference on that one? And how about all the other techniques that have been repeated throughout time, like Limitless, Ten Shadows, and Projection Sorcery? I think the answer (if there is one), is that we simply don't understand shrine yet. In the end I guess Yuji's and Sukuna's abilities won't be so different. Maybe they'll be as different as Choso's and Noritoshi's, but they'll be based on the same core principle. We just don't know what that principle is yet (aside from both having cuts and being related to tools [knives / scissors]). Perhaps the underlying technique is something more along the lines of a ritual or preparation of something. How a chef prepares the food vs. how an artist prepares his materials (using scissors to cut paper for example). At the end of the day we know very little about cursed energy and cursed techniques. We know that: - Cursed techniques are not part of the person's soul (otherwise Mahito could transform them) - Cursed techniques seem to be somehow linked to the persons body / can be etched into their body (how the swapping had people using different techniques and etching them into their bodies / how kenjaku gets access to someones technique) - Despite this, the persons body may not be able to use the cursed technique if his brain is not tuned right - Kenjaku probably found a way to etch the cursed techniques from previous bodies into his brain or even his soul (hence why he can use anti-gravity system) - But what about cursed energy? Yuji had almost none before sukuna yet know he has a pretty substantial amount. Will that continue to grow? Is that now part of his body, or is it part of his soul? I know these 2 are heavily related, but I'd say more on the soul side, since sukuna has a lot of CE in Megumi's body

[@thiagovig3]

Perhaps Sukuna's CT also makes it possible to alter the body/soul, with all this theme of cutting, slicing and cooking. Maybe he was the fundamental piece for Cgames, and not Mahito, Kenjaku was just lucky that Mahito showed up. This would explain why Mahito was so afraid of Sukuna when they met inside Yuji, and that was what he noticed as an Equal. And the whole parallel between Yuji and Mahito too.