The call (and gesture) everyone at the game will be talking about

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The Wild Dears

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@sahgentpeppah 2 ай бұрын

It's always the parents that are the most embarrassing when these things happen.

@eddiew.6485 3 ай бұрын

That’s right parents, you were right there on top of the plate and really, really did have the best vantage point to make the call……….no wonder they can’t get anyone to umpire a game anymore!

@AAAskeet 3 ай бұрын

Yes,I umped for several years.Everybody in the stands is an expert.Like I care who wins.

@svendjorgensen7201 2 ай бұрын

High throw, runner slid between the catcher's legs. Not even close.

@AAAskeet 2 ай бұрын

@@svendjorgensen7201 It happens so fast in real life.Best you can do is try to be in the right position to call it and call what you saw.

@alanhess9306 2 ай бұрын

@@svendjorgensen7201 The tag was on the runner before he reached the plate.

@wncryder 2 ай бұрын

I have despised watching youth and school sports for 25 years because the young players do their best only to have the game decided by bad or biased officiating. A bad official is worse than no official. In this situation the catcher was impeding the runner before possession of the ball, player is safe.

@dalethelander3781 3 ай бұрын

Looked to me like the catcher blocked the plate before he had the ball. Posey Rule.

@JoeR-tv6nh 2 ай бұрын

I slowed it down and it is hard to see the best resolution of the plate, but it looks like the catcher's arm came down to the runner before the runner got to the plate.

@Joefloridaman 2 ай бұрын

Looks like the catcher had one foot on either side of the foul line before having possession of the ball.

@steveswangler6373 2 ай бұрын

forget teh pansy posey who never learned how to block the plate without getting hurt, even though he played for years under a former catcher who got his ass run over in the 1980 nlcs, the catcher was making the play ergo he was perfectly positioned.

@JoeR-tv6nh 2 ай бұрын

@@Joefloridaman He had to be in position to catch the ball which was thrown high. If he moved closer to the inside of the foul line he probably would not have caught the ball.

@wncryder 2 ай бұрын

@@JoeR-tv6nh - That doesn’t change the fact the catcher block the path of the runner before having possession of the ball.

@virginiabrinkmann9106 3 ай бұрын

Looked out to me.

@paulpinball9952 2 ай бұрын

The plate is indistinguishable, the catcher's glove is completely obscured, and there is no basis for anybody watching the play on this video to dispute the call. I would only suggest that youth-team coaches teach players to *ALWAYS* slide feet-first into the plate, Catchers are well protected by "the tools of ignorance." Hands-first sliders are simply ignorant.

@johndever8481 2 ай бұрын

The runner did not clearly beat the tag. Catcher only has to give a path not a highway. My only suggestion to the senior blue is to move to where he does not straight line himself. I quit at 70 after 52 years because I lost my quick movement. This guy needs to, because looking old and slow, plus a quick bounce reflex, makes for long nights.

@herbhouston5378 2 ай бұрын

Sportsmanship??? I heard that word somewhere???

@pattiross3798 2 ай бұрын

The catcher illegally blocked the plate the player should have gone in shoulder first And flattend the catcher.

@MichaelSimmons. 2 ай бұрын

I had no idea what was going to happen on this video. I watched the play, and thought he was out. Very hard to tell for sure

@guidofurlotti5969 2 ай бұрын

Also for me the catcher stands in front of the plate (left leg well outside the foul line) so he is blocking the plate before having the ball. So the runner is safe. Considering instead the timing of the tag, it seems that the tag is before the runner touches the plate, in this optic (only) the ump decided correctly.

@tomminkler7640 2 ай бұрын

Exactly

@MichaelWilliams-xe7by 2 ай бұрын

Man, if parents acted like that at any of my son's games they would be told to leave and if they didn't leave it would be a forfeit. Where is this that parents can get away with that garbage?

@firstname7330 3 ай бұрын

I got out on the play. I didn't see middle finger....looks like pointing finger.

@nelsonporter8387 3 ай бұрын

Nice behavior, sports parents!

@stevenfagaly3810 3 ай бұрын

Out by a mile. I used to ump and could never believe the arguments on plays that weren't even close.

@altonweaver7757 3 ай бұрын

I’m sure he mentioned to the coach that he’s (Coach) responsible for the conduct of himself, fans and players.

@kennowens7381 3 ай бұрын

I have no real comment on the initial call, since i can't even tell where the plate is in the video. If I had to guess, I'd say safe, but that would be a complete guess. I also can't say much about the ejection since we can't hear what was said. But WHY are they hanging out in front of the dugout after the ejection? Yes, they have to make sure the coach leaves, but you can go back to your between inning positions and avoid more conflict.

@WildDears 3 ай бұрын

It was a very odd exchange. The ump had been getting bombarded by the crowd all night for his sliding strike zone and obviously wasn’t very happy about it. I’ve heard many umps this season on the business end of incredibly nasty comments only for them to ignore the comments to the point I even questioned if they heard them. It’s rare that I see an ump lose his cool. This one allegedly flipped off #4 (tbh from my vantage point I couldn’t tell) with zoomed in paused video it does kind of appear true, but not 100%. 4 didn’t get ejected so I’m not sure what the jester was for. The call may not have been personal, but when you start showing emotion it makes it hard for people to accept the call is legit. Last season I saw a coach kick dirt on an ump and he got ejected without any extra fanfare or emotion from the ump. He ejected the coach and went back to doing his job. That said, even if I had the knowledge it takes to be an ump, I would not have the emotional fortitude to do it.

@jonnya3425 3 ай бұрын

This is one of the reasons why youth baseball is suffering. There has always been arguing with umps and some comments from the crowd but the overall culture has changed for the worse. People feel empowered to be the worst version of themselves and demand to be respected while showing none to everyone around them. I've thought about umping in the past but I have zero interest in it these days. The amount of money I'd have to be paid to put up with people at their worst while doing my absolute best would bankrupt the league. The lesson that should be taught when an umpire makes a mistake is, "he's doing his best. Sure, he blew that call but we all make mistakes. Let's show him some grace." That type of lesson would help shape these kids into respectable people rather than entitled monsters.

@jamesnasium4035 3 ай бұрын

I was wondering that: is this youth baseball? The kind of comments the ump is getting from the stands would not be tolerated when my kids were in Nations Baseball. The umps would eject fans and if it didn't stop the game would be forfeited.

@WildDears 3 ай бұрын

@@jamesnasium4035It’s Southern Collegiate Baseball League

@MagSeven7 3 ай бұрын

@@jonnya3425 I'm always amazed at the comments by fans and parents as they yell at an umpire or any youth official for that matter. Having been a LL umpire for over 20 years I've heard it all. I rarely interact with the crowd unless I hear someone use profanity. That being said, I have to bite my toungue when I hear the complaints since I have no doubt everyone complaining has never officiated a game in their lives! Try calling 300 pitches and see if they get any wrong! Incredible.

@INJURYCOMP 2 ай бұрын

Very clearly SAFE! The runner's left arm is already past the catcher's legs when the tag is made. The runner's right arm and chest are, therefore, already on home plate before the catcher bends down to make the tag. S A F E

@playdiscgolf1546 2 ай бұрын

The people in the stands….haha drunken clowns. I’d really like to see them umpire a single game, without needing a drink.

@christollaksen8442 3 ай бұрын

Happy to see it in slow motion, that would help us (umpires) see the game better. The $ 60.00 or so dollars that we make is never worth the aggravation of tossing a coach, writing a report to the association, having to speak with a league representative that ultimately decides the punishment. Enjoy the game, we teach our youth the wrong things about handling judgement calls.

@glenchapman3899 3 ай бұрын

I dont think there was anyway from the footage to know if it was out or not. In the league I played in we all had to take turns umpiring games so we could get a feel for just how hard the job is.

@timothyingersoll4311 2 ай бұрын

@@glenchapman3899 Good idea. It's not hard until you get a play that's close.LOL Then it's awe shit. I initially had him out but couldn't really tell where home plate was. Also had the catcher standing in front of the plate blocking the runner from running through the plate. So not sure when this game was played might have been before rule change to avoid collisions. Different tag coming if he's standing along side the plate.

@tedunderkoffler4164 2 ай бұрын

Start at 0:17, catcher is inside the left foul line; as the play proceeds the catcher is moving to field the thrown ball; at 0:23 catcher fields thrown ball; at 0:24 catcher glove is below the catcher's waist; at 0:25 catcher's glove is in contact with runner and runner has not touched home plate. GREAT CALL!

@duanerichardson5824 3 ай бұрын

Never ceases to amaze me that a parent who is 60+ feet away and at an angle has a better view than I do when I'm right there on top of the play. It's why I quit. I love the game, but the patents have ruined it. They act like there kid being called out will cost them a college scholarship or keep them off Sports Center.

@svendjorgensen7201 2 ай бұрын

Good to know that you are gone, Snowflake.

@dougsimmon7460 2 ай бұрын

And they wonder why they can't find umpires . In my days of little league , parents used to come and watch the kids play . Today's parents are there to ras the umpires !!!

@gpttigers 3 ай бұрын

Wirh the benefit of slow mo, clearly obstruction on the catcher. Should be safe.

@robertskipper8848 Ай бұрын

The Umpire made the decision, no one else. We own the calls, which means you don't have to like them. Secondly, with video the play is easier to dissect and look over twenty thousand times. Whereas the umpire has a split second to make a decision. If those of you who want to complain, PLEASE sign up and show all officials what they are doing wrong. We are waiting!!!!

@stephenlyons8575 2 ай бұрын

I can see the plate. He tug him before fe touched home. Now whether it’s a blocking call or not??

@jamesoliver6625 3 ай бұрын

Proof that being contiguous to a play doesn't necessarily give your the opportunity to actually see the play. Given how close to illegally blocking the plate without the ball the catcher was standing, the hand slid in before the catcher could have tagged at the earliest the back of the runner's head.

@61wanderer61 2 ай бұрын

I’ll just say, that ump was in no way where he should have been. . It was a bang bang play, and positioning is the ump first rule to making good calls.

@willowbrook2717 3 ай бұрын

Had a call at second base the other day where I was in great position for a bang bang play at second. Tag was there a fraction before runner. Runner mumbled something and the SS said "c'mon, you were out by a mile". That was it. Then I hear from behind the backstop about 20 rows up in the stands "C'mon Dave! You gotta get that one right!" SS looks at me as he's tossing ball to pitcher and says "You're name Dave?" I said "unfortunately" and we both rolled our eyes and he smiled. This play in this video wasn't as even as close as mine. But obviously the drinker in the crowd had a conviction that the official on top of the play wasn't qualified to make his call. Hmmm, maybe we should always check with the experts in the gallery before making calls. I always say that one can see plays better from the stands. Not sure why they just don't have us making calls from there. Maybe its a matter of perspective? 🤔

@garthreynolds1437 3 ай бұрын

Catcher blocking plate without the ball , runner slid into catchers shin as the catchers glove was above his head ,still no ball in glove..safe because of interference!

@willowbrook2717 3 ай бұрын

Proves you don't know what you're talking about. Inaccurate description even though the play is in slo-mo. In addition, to double down on the fact you don't know the rules, if it was interference the runner would be automatically out. On the other hand if it was obstruction...

@garthreynolds1437 3 ай бұрын

@willowbrook2717 watched in five times in stop motion..

@dalethelander3781 3 ай бұрын

@@willowbrook2717I saw a clear violation of the Posey Rule.

@McLovin1759 2 ай бұрын

Runner looked out. Too close to call for anyone in the stands. Loudmouth parent should get off their arse and apply to be an Ump if he/she/they think they can do better.

@umpireva5440 2 ай бұрын

Parents are immature fools

@socalhockey72 3 ай бұрын

That's pretty clearly him throwing out another player or coach with a pointing gesture. Even with it slowed down I don't see a middle finger there.

@WildDears 3 ай бұрын

From my vantage point, I didn’t notice it all in real time until I had a couple of players, parents and a coach asked if I got it. I’m with you that I thought a second person (or other teammates) were being ejected as well. Turns out, no one else was ejected. Because of the music, I couldn’t hear the exchange. Based on my seat I would say it wasn’t a middle finger, but many in the 3rd base line said it was. But yeah, I have no idea.

@svendjorgensen7201 2 ай бұрын

Safe, it wasn't even that close with the throw coming in so high. Umps have worse egos than cops.

@hlspraying7614 2 ай бұрын

Then volunteer to umpire big guy!

@adamwatkins1150 2 ай бұрын

good call, baseball players be crybabies sometimes

@habittibah527 2 ай бұрын

Alot of good "points" on both sides in comments. None of us went out of our way to referee a kids game , ump cares.

@MrRogers326 3 ай бұрын

OBSTRUCTION

@jfejapan2829 3 ай бұрын

Precisely. The call is easy because in basically every league, this would be the catcher blocking the plate prior to possessing the ball. The umpire wouldn't have had to throw anyone out if the proper obstruction call had been made.

@WildDears 3 ай бұрын

This ^^

@sidvicous613 3 ай бұрын

easy call.... you actually umpire lol

@daveholtz2528 3 ай бұрын

@@jfejapan2829 I dont think so. Catcher has the right to position himself to catch the ball too. @ :22 catcher catches ball in blocking spot, @ :23 you can see runner starting his slide but hasn't landed yet. @ :25 catch is tagging runner but home plate hasn't been touched. Catch fielded throw and brought it straight down.

@jfejapan2829 3 ай бұрын

@@daveholtz2528 I'm not really interested in starting a huge back-and-forth... but this is textbook for obstruction. Your timeline actually proves that he violated the obstruction rule. The catcher does NOT have the right to position himself within the basepath to catch the ball. He must set up further into fair territory until the ball arrives. He very clearly is standing directly in the exact path the runner is taking well before being in the act of catching the ball. I'm not arguing whether home plate was touched or any of that. The runner is awarded home due to obstruction. Period.