The can opener: a common tool found on many pocket knives

[@balbalproduction2863]

A wiseman that i found all the way from Turkey. Huge respect sir. The best commentary on pocket knives ever.

[@mterakedis]

I can not get enough of these types of videos. I love to learn about knife related history.

[@christophersanchez3213]

Holding hand ✋ up. The boy scout knife I have in hand has Ulster stamped on the main blade, the girl scout knife has imperial stamped on the main blade. 😲

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Boy Scout knives from Ulster are pretty common. Most Girl Scout knives are from Utica. I’ll need to look into imperial Girl Scout knives. I am aware of a Colonial GS knife. That half moon or crescent shaped was used by a variety of companies including Camillus.

[@jjcahill8934]

It's always great to see the fantastic knives from your scout collection! It is interesting to see those old tin openers since as cans became stronger the tin openers became more dangerous. Prior to those, in the early days of canning, folk would use their standard knife blade, which I'm sure wreaked havoc on the edge. Both Imperial and Victorinox really saved the day :) Thanks for another excellent dive into the fascinating world of cutlery!

[@Der_Kleine_Mann]

I love the style with an L-shaped lever but with a more curved blade, because that's the one that's been used on the german army's silverware combo(on the pocket knife is different). I always use it on my fishing trips. Don't know if the army still uses that product today.

[@skcamerican]

Mirando was a brilliant guy. Lots of knife-related patents. Thanks for the info on can openers! Just bought a 1930s Imperial scout with integral bezels instead of bolsters on the handles, and the half-moon can opener.

[@garybennington7497]

Love your various show. I am sure many of your subs would be very interested in how you organize, sort, label, and store the zillion knives you must have in your collection. I would appreciate your suggestions for long term storage of a knife collection I hope to pass to my great grandkids. You are a excellent teacher.

[@vinniesdayoff3968]

Most knife reviewers waffle, Tobias gives us facts and information. Nice video.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Thanks. Sorry for the late reply. Back issues. I try to be objective and I also try very hard to let people know my biases us front. I'm not trying to sell products, just hand out information. Glad you're enjoying the channel.

[@loganlyke2513]

Could you demonstrate using the different can openers?

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

I have demonstrated using a couple in the past (not sure if all the videos are up or not). My main problem with doing these demos is you only get one chance and then you need to find another can! I can only open so many cans of tuna or beans! So many cans no longer require a can opener and I don't eat many canned vegetables. The next problem is I've never attempted using some can openers. (the old half moons and the Dogleg found on old Wengers.) These days I mainly use can openers for opening cardboard boxes and/or scoring lines.

[@loganlyke2513]

@@KnifeChatswithTobias thank you for the response! I asked because I recently bought a 1930's Scout knife with the half moon opener and it seems pretty inconvenient to use. I suppose if you were going to make a video like that you could make a mixed bean salad since it requires a lot of cans to be opened. If the cans have pull tabs you could probably just use the oldrr can openers to attack the bottom of the can since they're essentially glorified mini-knives.

[@hitchpost5822]

From 1946 to 1951 Victorinox's can opener was very Similar to the safety can opener. Of course in 51 they came up with there own design which many believe to be the best. Makes you wonder if they were being pushed to create a new design by Imperial's patent.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Hitch Post, several people suspect that. I’ve always wondered why it wasn’t until 1975 that Wenger was able to use the older style opener from Victorinox and why they had to buy it. Swiss law has to be some wacky stuff!

[@stoneblue1795]

Great presentation. I still use a P-38 in my kitchen today for daily/weekly use.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Funny you should mention that. I rarely if ever use a can opener on a knife. I use my P-38 as well. Probably the best portable can opener ever invented! Thanks for dropping by

[@justforever96]

Why? A modern can opener just works much better. And if you really just like to do things differently, at least get a P-50, it is just like the 38 but bigger and so it is a lot easier to use, more leverage, etc. If you are just keeping it in your kitchen and opening cans for cooking, for it don't need a tiny little thing like a P-38, which was designed to be used to open a could cans and thrown away. It is just making life twice as hard as it needs to me me be if you have more than one or two cans to open. And the pivots wear out and won't "grab" the rim after a few dozen cans.

[@jerrynorton1080]

Have carried a p38 (dont like the p51) since 12 yro on my keyring, i can open a can faster than most people and their normal kitchen handheld canopeners. Also carry leatherman since their intro, and s.a.k. for years before that. And keep an army scoutknife in thetoolbox and jockeybox.. The claw style was obviously devised by an enemy agent to disable the oppo's soldiery...

[@grampawterry8957]

Great info Thanks for sharing with us

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@hawaiiknifeandgear5531]

Great video! I am still learning about traditional style knives all the time and this was very informative. Subscribed for sure!

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Thanks. I've got a playlist for my Traditional Pattern videos. You may find it helpful. kzbin.info/aero/PLJLlvIi3Io4yN2OGgJZ4v_OZ6MAYEJfyP

[@PJ_Grateful]

Very interesting video Tobias! 👍😃👊

[@rhino5419]

Hello. Very informatve as Always. All the best.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@cabotbluegill]

darn it i am going to miss this have a good talk guys dam work

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Sorry you can’t make it.

[@jesterskull38]

So cool to see all the different types, if you get a chance you should show how all of them work please

[@thornekimroberts8502]

Great video!

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@pfg_pedals]

Those old lever can openers were designed to open the can from the side, not the top. Look up a video by a guy NikGuyver if you want to see proper use. Old cans sides were slightly thinner near the top and there was often a line on the lable showing where to open.

[@derekmiles6673]

HiTobias, in the first screen of this video the bottom right hand can opener, can you tell me how to use it. There are no videos on you tube. Help!!!! Sincerely Derek

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

It basically cuts the same way as the Wenger Dogleg can opener. Fairly awkward and not the safest in the world: I’ll try and revisit these can openers with demos when I get some cans to open. But this video on the dogleg will give you the general idea: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIDTcnuCea5jaqM

[@Kachigga-rs7yh]

Me: is trying to learn about can openers on pocket knives This dude: here’s this one with a patent and this knife that’s not even related

[@timbo4374]

The patent on the axis lock has expired, but Ganzo was doing it before it did so. Ganzo is a Chinese company, and the Chinese are notorious for thumbing their nose at US patents, and I guess, in this case, trademarks as well. It's hard to do anything about it, because they just laugh at any judgement, and keep on pumping them out anyway. Chinese law won't enforce a US courts judgement.

[@LowenKM]

Perhaps they do it 'cuz folks just keep *_buying_* 'em...?! China's always been easy to bash, though in fairness, a quick check of History also shows that the West has never been very 'kind' towards China either (think the Brit-inspired Opium Wars, the Boxer Rebellion, or how 'bout that time when Japan invaded China and murdered millions... while the West just stood by and 'watched'). So they have a lotta reasons not to 'trust' us too.

[@turquoisemama33]

A can opener being responsible for saving lives during the war, Amazing.

[@TheArtOfRuse]

Great video! I’m not sure exactly the stage of the “axis lock” but Sog has been newly producing a “XR” lock and it’s very similar as well. I did hear that the axis lock can be produced now as long as it has a different name. So possible it was lifted or they are just paying royalties minus ganzo lol.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Yooper Trooper, I’m pretty sure axis lock is the TM for the Benchmade version of the lock. If so, they can definitely sue for the use of the name.

[@davedonkey5663]

You certainly put a lot of thought into your video ATB Dave

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Thanks. I've been researching can opener on knives for some time. I'm sure I'll be doing another one in the future as I find out more about about the pre-WWII can openers. Unfortunately so much of the information is very murky. Its very difficult finding some of the patent information as I suspect they may have been first patented in England or Germany.

[@BroosDager]

Outstanding video, thanks and subbed

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

I was the only guy with a pocket knife in my whole group, so whenever we bought canned food like corn, beans, etc. along with caped beer I was usually the designated opener, btw. do you know of an alternative lubricant for my Vuctirnox Soldier other then companies multi-tool oil, as that is to pricey for me.

[@FoundWorthy]

Food Grade Mineral oil; you can find it at the drug store. All I use

[@justforever96]

Mineral oil, dude. That is all you should need. I guarantee that is all their expensive "multi tool oil" is. Because they know people are stupid enough to buy it. People who go out and buy a $200 gadget and see special oil marketed for it will often just buy both without question. You don't even need mineral oil, any oil will work, just some vegetable oils can gum things up. But it is better than no oil if you have a carbon steel blade. If you don't, you don't really need to oil it. Maybe a drop on the pivots once a year. Not that oil will hurt anything at all. Even WD40, 10W-30, gun oil, all fine. Just not great if you are going to cut up any food with it (although I know plenty of people who have eaten food with oily knives or hands and never gotten sick or died so I think people stress over it to much).

[@r.murray6549]

I suspect if there were any legal issues surrounding Ganzo's use of any of any features originating with Spyderco, the world would have heard about them by now. Ganzo may be assertive in their borrowing, but they are not stupid. Can't we drop the whole "what are the Chinese up to" discussion and focus on interesting cutting tools, regardless of where they originate.

[@garyhouston113]

Ive used my swiss army can opener in my kitchen and nothing else for years.It works better than most can openers

[@justforever96]

Most can openers won't open a can? They are harder to use? How do you define "works better" as far as can openers go? I have never had a problem with modern can openers. I had one 97¢ one I got at Walmart because I liked how basic it was. It didn't work, in it is just bent. So I went back and got a $10 one, which works just fine, it opens cans with ease with a slight squeeze and a few easy turns of a knob. How does your old fashioned blade designed to open soft tin "work better" than that? I can believe that you _prefer_ to use your old style opener, that you find it satisfying, you like to be different, you like a little challenge, you like to know you have a lost skill. But don't try to convince me it "works better", because I don't buy it.

[@HobieonYouTube]

Great info on the safety can opener, thank you. Hey, I just did a video on the Remington Trail Master! Maybe you'd enjoy it and could add some information. ATB!

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

I will check it out ASAP. Love the Trail Master. I'm betting you have a pre-WWII one!

[@josefn2392]

The mystey is solved - cans came before can openers! :)

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Yep! Just pound on your can with a hammer and chisel! LOL

[@Sokol10]

@@KnifeChatswithTobias Supposedly the first can opener came only 50 years after the start of the use of caned food.

[@bdh3949]

Rant on!

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

BD H, it truly is just a minor rant. But it all ties together.

[@michaelbown3229]

The most common type of patent expires after 20 years in the US.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

I believe this is true with current patent laws. I do know some items are as a little as 7 (pharmaceuticals) and others are ten with the option to renew for an additional ten. From what I understand the patent laws changed in 1952 and again 2005-2009

[@paddyspotatopeelers2154]

I. Not positive but I don't think spyderco where able to patent the hole. Great and informative video thank you atb paddy 👍🍀😄

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Just checked the Trademark database. Man do I have the subject for a new video! Hint- well yes and no!