The Canucks breakdown is absolutely INSANE

We need to talk about the Vancouver Canucks and their very public implosion. All that and more on today's NHL hockey video!

[@Isaac-ve1dm]

As a Canucks fan, just when I thought the suffering was over with last year's success, I was reminded that I am a fan of the Canucks... There is only pain and suffering following this club :l

[@derekbaker8791]

I feel this. Try being a leafs though lol!

[@levelselect6800]

two things i love and will stick with and be loyal to no matter the stupid ups and downs of the roller coaster... The Canucks and Bone thugs N Harmony. maan it sucks.. but yeah..

[@noahbeek6307]

Success??? 😂

[@timetowakeup6302]

Sounds like my Ranger fandom

[@ericahn1627]

We will suffer until we die and go to the place where there is no hockey…

[@9eightFilms]

Me when the Canucks were being talked about last season: 😃 Me when the Canucks are being talked about this season: 😭

[@Axeom]

It's bc you signed DeBrusk on a long term contract. Bruins fan here and that dude lives and breathes drama. He is not a healthy addition to any locker room. When he's scoring, he's happy. When he's struggling, he's a cancer and brings the whole team down.

[@mcshaz914]

@@AxeomBrudda what? Debrusk ain’t got nothing to do in this 🤦

[@Axeom]

@ I'm just saying he's a liability. I know he isn't directly involved with these two but he's not adding good vibes to help lift morale for the rest of the team while the this crap pans out I can tell you that much.

[@ShawnBlaque]

@@Axeom Miller could be on a team with Mother Teresa and it still wouldn't matter lol he is a plague

[@tompy3738]

I'm a sabres fan i came to make you feel better

[@Wobomagonda]

"You want to settle old scores-you're on the wrong team. We move forward---starting right now. We start becoming a team--right now". - Herb Brooks

[@reeddixon5758]

I love how nothing ever goes right. It’s really awesome.

[@ericahn1627]

What makes it even better is when there is a hint of things coming together, it ends up causing even bigger disaster.

[@mvmt2]

They always make sure to give you hope first. Then they rip it all away.

[@johnnybaxter1953]

If the Canucks started the season healthy instead of heavily injured, this wouldn’t even be a story right now

[@natatatt]

Apparently we just can't have nice things : (

[@ericahn1627]

@ The division among the roster wouldn't have happened you mean??

[@ShawnBlaque]

Can't wait for Miller's next interview "it's completely fine, there's nothing wrong, I don't know why you guys are even asking about it" LOL

[@benoitrobitaille5235]

Sounds exactly like the response of someone stirring shit up and surprised journalists picked up on the scent.

[@jcransome5616]

JT IS A TRUE WARRIOR

[@ShawnBlaque]

@@jcransome5616 That would be cool if he didn't exclusively fight friends and family lmao! He's a lobotomized warrior

[@jcransome5616]

@@ShawnBlaque such a twink Canuck fan

[@johnnybaxter1953]

He’s right, the media just throws gas on the fire constantly. Unless you have a productive question, Let the men in the room figure it out

[@seamusoleary3712]

Quinn Hughes has two more years on his contract after this one, and there is no doubt in my mind that he will want to join his brothers in Jersey after the contract ends. The Canucks have to figure out pretty quick if they want to go all in and try to give themselves a chance to win while he is a Canuck or rebuild. If they go the rebuild route, there is no point keeping Hughes around, so they might as well trade him while his value is sky high. Yes, it's sad, but that is the reality...

[@spartan9725]

I can't even put into words how angry, terrified and heartbroken I would be if we lost Quinn Hughes

[@mbtravel7294]

I would love to have him in Jersey, see him playing with his brothers

[@horse2go251]

@@mbtravel7294I can’t say that there isn’t any part of me that want Hughes to be on the same team as his brothers, but as a Canucks fan this would actually kill the team.

[@AEMoreira81]

Quinn Hughes, as a defenseman, is pretty much carrying this team.

[@SqueakyClean-x4p]

I say trade them all, Hughes , Peterson, coach , everyone

[@ShawnBlaque]

@@spartan9725 The Vancouver Miller's are going to a dark place lol

[@OWlsfordshire]

Huge respect to Quinn Hughes. I appreciate players who value competitiveness over team loyalty.

[@Statsy10]

Not sure if that was sarcasm or not. Either way it's worth noting that people are ASSUMING that Hughes would want out. He hasn't said or indicated that at all.

[@OWlsfordshire]

@Statsy10 Not sarcasm. I'd rather watch competitive games than have players signed on sentimentality. Look at the Penguins.

[@Statsy10]

@ To be fair, the Penguins aren't struggling because their old stars have let them down. Besides those guys don't need to run around trying to win a cup before they retire. They have a bunch already. Lol

[@Statsy10]

@ Also, what's confusing me about your comments is how you seem to be switching back and forth between talking about the team and talking about things from the players' perspective. Those are very different things.

[@OWlsfordshire]

@@Statsy10 Bro the metro hasnt won the ECF since 2018. The Caps are just now recovering after an injection of young blood and they could still go out in the first round again like many regular season heroes. The Atlantic chose to stay competitve. Stamkos had to go. That's the type of situation I'm talking about. With Quinn, it's more personal. He doesn't wanna waste his best years rebuilding.

[@KINGPOOPS]

I don't think Rutherford would give that interview if every GM in the league didn't already know the situation.

[@SMA2343]

100% he already told everyone Petey and Miller are on sale. and now since the biggest buyer for Miller, the Canes, went all in on Hall and Rantenen. Writing is on the wall

[@samarchepas]

Still a dumb move if you ask me, even if everyone knows...it gives other GMs more reasons to just low-ball them because its PUBLICLY known now that there's a problem, not just the medias.

[@ianism3]

that's a pretty good point

[@saadkhanimran8327]

Not a Canucks fan but I'm upset with the fall of Elias Pettersson. He really looked like the future face of the franchise when he came into the scene but went through struggles and such, and excluding his 100pt season, has been a shell of his former self

[@mvmt2]

well, when jt miller was out of the line up Petey looked amazing... so perhaps this beef is really screwing with his mental, and if jt does get traded we may see a resurgence. or at least thats what i like to tell myself

[@JB-qu8pv]

Petey started finding his game with Miller out of the lineup. Idk if that’s a coincidence

[@petel7418]

True. Poor baby Petey if he can't take little heat from Miller when he is not playing 100% 😭 .. Just proves my point if he plays better without Miller, but the rest of the team don't. So good luck Canucks.

[@Lite-8]

Petey played phenomenal when JT was gone. He'll be back. He'll be a superstar once more.

[@Zoltan1251]

@@petel7418 Little heat. Being a bully is not a flex you think it is. Believe it or not, people are different and its actually proven that you cannot bully people into being good at anything. If it was that simple top athletes would be ranked by how much they are getting yelled at.

[@Laughlin83]

As a Canucks fan, 75% of the people in the arena are status fans who can afford regular tickets and really don’t care about the team. The other 25% making noise in the arena or the 100% at home watching the games deserve better than another rebuild with Quinn Hughes captaining the team.

[@dannytallmage2971]

Ok you are poor. Sucks to suck.

[@PistonHeaven]

Man i remember during summer every Canucks fan was like “demko beat goalie” and “Canucks Stanley Cup 2025” now it’s “miss playoffs and Hughes moving on?”

[@Alex_Eder]

Yeah they were so sure no one was stopping their team, it was so cute

[@sillythygoose]

@@Alex_Ederwhy so condescending?

[@Brandon4916]

​@@sillythygoose pro tip, if you don't respond to schmucks like that, it doesn't give them a chance to be condescending again

[@tubcupbean]

Wasn’t crazy to say at the time, they went to game 7 against the oilers without an, at the time, vezina calibre goalie

[@Alex_Eder]

@@sillythygoose I saw many Canucks fans being just as condescending while arguing why their forward group was the best in the league. With example rosters that had the likes of Sprong and Lekkerimäki in the top 6. So, yeah...

[@DaltonM1967]

its just so sad and bad for us canucks fan i just want to see a consistent team and we finally saw it and losing after 1 year just hurts since it looks like were going to lose our favorite players

[@xBigBean]

As a Canucks fan, what the fuck was Rutherford thinking!!?!?!?!!?

[@T0MapleLaughs]

He is essentially delivering more entertainment than the on-ice product. Can't just rip off the bandaid here, need to milk this for all it's worth because it's a long season.

[@Varonno]

Maybe it’s a reverse psychology thing

[@user-iw5mp5th6d]

The truth.

[@mikeruxpin2829]

He can't trade either player right now so this is his play

[@Mike_YYJ]

It might be meant as a challenge to the players and/or prepping the fans to accept the inevitable shake up with underwhelming return cause we have no leverage…

[@Gluuten]

Becoming a Canucks fan is the worst thing that has ever happened to me.

[@linardangst892]

If you would say something like this un Europe, you would be dead😅

[@loilt5091]

Not quite, you could always go the distance & lower yourself, becoming a 🍁fan.

[@ShawnBlaque]

@@loilt5091 But you love the Leafs it's all you've commented about lmao what a loser 😂

[@Atlas.-7141]

I wonder how debrusk feels after going from probably one of the best locker room cultures in the NHL to one of the worst.

[@mrchi3f1179]

Ehh, Bruins don't seem too hot right now themselves and at least Debrusk gets to play top 6 mins for a lengthy contract, he's the one who wanted out of Boston tbf

[@bluesteel3609]

Yea he didn’t feel happy being a part of the bruins

[@saschaganser9671]

Maybe before they added Lindholm and Zadorov, who is right now a 5m pylon and the other one is propably one of the worst contracts in the league.

[@lessthanthreemetal]

He's probably happy to be away from his psycho stalker girl

[@mcshaz914]

@@lessthanthreemetallmao he didnt even fully get away, she lives in Vancouver now and tried to go to his games but she’s flagged and banned from all stadiums

[@eldonodeltrumpo7290]

Oilers broke both the Flames & Canucks after playoff defeats lol

[@knganth3m]

LOL 🎉 you got that right ❤

[@johnnybaxter1953]

Yes, the Oilers are the reason that Pettersson and Miller have difference personalities. Genius.

[@brettrossi034]

COME ON QUINN MY MAN!!! New Jersey is calling your name with Luke and Jack!! 😈

[@mbtravel7294]

My thoughts exactly! Would love to see that 👹

[@connorparrish7002]

I hope the team turns out ok. I feel like this is the beginning of a nuclear meltdown or the reveal of one about to happen. Sucks for all the guys in the locker room and the fans watching it burn out.

[@NooBeRGoD]

But Vancouver fans have been saying the feud is made up by the media all season? How dare Rutherford confirm it!

[@SaskatoonSaul]

Vancouver fans are def top 3 worst fanbases in the league. Bizarre levels of copium with them for everything.

[@Phoenixmason10]

⁠@@SaskatoonSaulas a Canucks fan I can confirm that we have one of the worst fanbases in the league.

[@eeegon]

​@@SaskatoonSaulIt sucks man, many of the closest and favorite people in my life are Canuck fans and they're great fans, but it's true. I love Canuck fanS, but Canuck FAN is the worst.

[@vans6084]

vancouver fans started the talks about this, you may be smoking something lol. the media however is trying to downplay it... until now

[@ericahn1627]

@@SaskatoonSaul I’ll never be able to understand their obsession of being optimistic when things are heading south. It’s like any criticism towards the team is a blasphemy!

[@ram21rod]

The way they treated Horvat was tasteless, im thinking it had to do alot with how Tochett absolutely loved Miller, but we wouldnt be having this conversation if the trade was other way around

[@PygmySurfer]

Not to mention the way they treated Bruce Boudreau

[@johnnybaxter1953]

I’m surprised at the amount of casuals in the comment section. The reason they traded Bo was because his contract was up, and he was asking for more money than he was worth. So instead of losing him in free agency for nothing, they decided to trade him

[@ram21rod]

​@johnnybaxter1953 he's only making alittle over 5 mil. Second in scoring For lowly islanders team and a plus-12 player, but besides point is tho there has been a rift between Miller and other players which management knew about should have been Miller thats traded or they wouldnt be in this mess.

[@johnnybaxter1953]

@@ram21rod Bo makes 8.5 million per season

[@danglesnipecelly13]

This whole situation is just insane to me. Jt miller seems like a hard ass that is probably just a huge buzzkill in the locker room.

[@johnnybaxter1953]

Yea he’s such a buzzkill that Pettersson signed here for 8 years knowing that Miller would be here for 7 of them. Think McFly !

[@Amoney7382]

I wanna cry. This just hurts.😢

[@bakikountwa2192]

It hurts coz I’d like the canucks to win the cup with this current roster.

[@crotalon]

Ive been making fun of my brother for decades for being a Nucks fan. This year has given me lots of material.

[@knganth3m]

:D just wait until the Canucks miss the playoffs :D ❤🎉

[@crotalon]

@knganth3m in some ways i enjoy it more when they make it. They tend to flame out spectacularly( Cloutier letting in a goal from center ice, them choking to Minny, the Chicago meltdowns to Chelsea Dagger, the meltdowns in Boston, etc ), which has led to my brother's best meltdowns watching.

[@natedicksonmedia]

you'll always have material for sure. What team do you cheer for, does he have any ammo?

[@crotalon]

@natedicksonmedia Stars. I was 12 when I saw them win the Cup so... that was a fun year lol

[@g4111]

Maybe I'm just shortsighted, and I know that people can be nasty to each other, but boy howdy, something must have really gone to shit for two guys making so much money to not be able to just put it aside to simply play hockey.

[@NooBeRGoD]

Ego and shattered confidence can be terrible things. Leaders are supposed to help elevate their teammates, not berate them into shutting down.

[@michaeljones7372]

Both are good insights g and noober

[@dannytallmage2971]

@@NooBeRGoDI only make 700-800 K a year and my boss isn’t nice but I don’t mope like a little baby. But I’m not a silly Northern European.

[@NooBeRGoD]

@@dannytallmage2971 lmfao ok kid, whatever you say.

[@NaturalBornGriller]

Eck I really enjoy your other channel about all things fantasy and books, etc. I actually watched both of them independently for QUITE A WHILE before just suddenly realizing it was the same guy talking

[@dantran9962]

Hot take. I appreciate the honestly from Rutherford. Fans always complain about the lack of transparency within a team’s organization. Now they finally got it. Rutherford cut the BS and sugarcoating and told how it is. Fans have no right to complain about this interview. If this interview pisses those Canuck fans off, they should start another riot.

[@ninjashep5264]

As a Canucks fan I still have hope in the team getting a good trade for Miller & Will either clinch in that WC2 Spot or could possibly have a Top 10 Draft Pick if not Only 1 point behind the flames for WC2 with the games played tied so it’s definitely possible!

[@Jrodsly]

I knew their miracle run last season was a flash in the pan. You never trust a team owned by Aquilini to have long term success without a miracle happening. Sadly, I don't see how this team even begins to rebound from this, if they ever do, without new ownership.

[@johnnybaxter1953]

2 players don’t get along but you don’t know how they will ever rebound from this ? This comment section seems emotionally unstable. Maybe because it’s mostly Canucks fans

[@OWlsfordshire]

This is why canadian teams have not been taken seriously in our lifetimes.

[@dantran9962]

I love to see The Hockey Guy dismiss this as “silly rumours”.

[@kolasillers7776]

NO, he didn't.

[@dantran9962]

@@kolasillers7776yes he did. From the start of the season he dismiss the rumours saying that there is no point in talking about it and doesn’t understand the point on why it’s being brought up and from then on he doesn’t like to acknowledge it. Now look at his recent video about the interview he finally accepts it being a real thing instead of stating it as usual locker room rumours.

[@dannytallmage2971]

He’s a knob gobbler he dismisses any story that portrays players in a bad light.

[@dantran9962]

​@@dannytallmage2971 I wouldn't go that far to call him a knob. He just doesn't like negativity.

[@dannytallmage2971]

@@dantran9962 that’s fair but he doesn’t mind being negative about management or referees so it’s a selective positivity. Just not a fan of groupies.

[@Bucketmc]

I don't care who likes who as long as they win. It's all about winning.

[@staffan144]

Creative and with good defensive skills as well, defenceman Brännström, sent to Abbotsford (while being top 3 defenceman on Vancouver up until that point, only behind the top 2 defenceman Hughes and Hronek), and he has played like 8 games there in Abbotsford now, with i think 12 points and +11. No one on Abbotsford is even close to that. And he had a lot of + also in Vancouver (unless something happened at the end?), compared to most other players on the team, so he seems to be doing something right, not just a coincidence that he is +. (i just verified the numbers: Brännström ended with -4 on Vancouver, but he was - 4 in the last 5 games he played. Most players on Canucks have minus BTW. And his Abbotsford numbers were correct: 8 games played 12 points and +11. And he used to be plus on Vancouver too and created plays for the team) Why did Tocchet get rid of Brännström who was a bargain and could do so much good for the team? Rich Tocchet has become the main problem in Vancouver (shifting the players/lines way to much forever and ever (and never giving them chance to develop stable chemistry), and not even keeping the good lines when they appear but still continuing to change everything all the time).

[@tristincrowley8458]

Edmonton dismantling their rivals in playoffs is crazy lmao, they're like the grim reaper for teams they face in round 2

[@SaskatoonSaul]

And yet they basically saved Florida from being moved, seriously would have dismantled the franchise of Edmonton won.

[@saadkhanimran8327]

Except for Vegas, which sent the entire city of Edmonton in turmoil for a month

[@Pfuetz4]

@@saadkhanimran8327 I still don't like Vegas. Their existence angers me so....

[@KINGPOOPS]

@@tristincrowley8458 if you think Edmonton is the reason the Canucks are falling apart then you haven't been paying attention to the Canucks for the last 50 years.

[@lasrswordja]

​@KINGPOOPS Its crazy that Oilers fans have one of the best teams in the league and all they think about is Vancouver 😂

[@jpsaye]

Quinn Hughes just thriving off chaos

[@Slipings]

we used to pray for times like this 🙏

[@irwinrommel2099]

They certainly went with the wrong player. Horvat might not have put up 100 points last season but he doesn't cause drama.

[@braydenn3267]

i like hamburger and canuck

[@braydenn3267]

who with me?

[@Dr.SamLoomis]

I like chicken and Red Wing

[@timothywade9618]

Pasta and Penguins for me please.

[@saschaganser9671]

It`s painful becuase you know this team can be better. But they are a rollercoaster team. Won the Pacific last year, the year before have been at .500 while they finished last in the Covid season with the Canadian teams. You don`t trade Hughes, that would be insane. Pettersson and his 11,6m will be very hard to move, especially now. He`s inconsistent. Can be a 100+ pts guy, close to 40g, or can be a 60 pts. per season player, as he`s this year and was in 21-22. Miller didn`t bring the return they wanted, and you can bet with the grit Miller has in his game his contract can become really bad in a couple of years.

[@xJabro]

from the playoff performance to this, what the fuck happened

[@NooBeRGoD]

The frauds got exposed for what they truly were 🤣

[@quixPPG]

@@NooBeRGoDsomeones mad

[@NooBeRGoD]

@quixPPG at what? I've been laughing myself to nearly pissing my pants for the last 3 months at all the drama around the trashbag Canucks. It's like watching reality TV, but in the NHL. Mad? I couldn't be any happier this clownshow is happening 🤣😂🤣

[@johnnybaxter1953]

What happened is 2 of their stars don’t get along. And then the media turns that molehill into a mountain. And then dumb people like you eat it up

[@jarrettfullerton2580]

Man I don't think the Canucks want to do a rebuild if they can help it. As an Avs fan, those years when the season is lost by December are incredibly painful.

[@BigBSinclair]

After a good playoff last year, this is so disheartening to see. Our only hope is that they somehow pull together and start winning some games. If not, I think they'll have to blow it up and we'll lose Quinn Hughes to New Jersey setting us back another 5 years again at least.

[@cal8362]

Hughes is the worst captain in the NHL

[@qwwupp4763]

as an oilers fan, this makes me so happy 😂 poor hughes though

[@tomblade]

They definitely made a huge mistake by dealing Horvat instead of Miller...

[@eeegon]

@@tomblade I never thought I'd be proven right saying that, especially when it seemed they turned it all around last year. Oh well, not my team not my problem

[@kesler171717]

I think nobody is actually getting moved until the offseason so the Canucks get more back. Right now they are fighting for a playoff spot and would make themselves worse given what is being offered. I think most of the problems likely solve themselves with a win streak and Rutherford had more comments that weren't included in the article that basically said yeah we might not move either still.

[@bakikountwa2192]

I hope you are right.

[@Chaosmite]

They went from pretty good odds of winning the cup last year to thinking about complete rebuild this year, how does that happen?

[@NoSyrupLeft]

If only Canadians cared about the state of our country as much as they do about teams of millionaires they have no connection to just because they wear a logo. I’m a Canucks fan but my constant frustration with this team over and over reminds me that this stuff is NOT important in the grand scheme of things. It just makes me angry when people who get paid millions to play a sport act like drama queens when Canadians are getting crushed in this economy

[@the6ig6adwolf]

Hockey is disposable entertainment, just like a movie, and certainly isn't worth being emotionally invested in. If I'm bad at my job do the Canucks players care? As I've gotten older and hopefully matured I'll refer to myself as a "Canucks observer" rather than a Canucks fan.

[@benoitrobitaille5235]

Well fans are fanatics, Canucks enthusiast ?

[@ghettorecords3427]

It’s Elias Petterson not Elias Petterson!

[@new_user6969]

Painful to see, starting to realize ill never see them win a cup

[@NooBeRGoD]

55+ years and counting 🤣

[@new_user6969]

💔​@@NooBeRGoD

[@Varonno]

@@NooBeRGoDBro did you look up the draft picks? Slim pickings when other teams are winning with first round first picks. Some teams won cups. Very few teams get lucky in the cap/lottery era without luck and depth. Canucks get hit with injuries at the worst times. And the the last time they had top picks it was a deal to get both Sedins. If you look at where they’ve been in each of the first to third round? Fifth is about as good as they’ve had. Have a look at the draft history . Vancouver could. Tcachuk was a mistake ae tanked more from the last two lockouts. Gillis? Don’t even know what to say. And Benning was trying to do a Boston AFTER yet another seventh game loss. The Canucks have been hovering mid except for the two President’s trophy seasons. Sell the team to Houston for expansion and get a new owner. Aquilini is a karma cancer and loser owner

[@NooBeRGoD]

@@Varonno That's a lot of excuses, broseph.

[@Jalreal]

You are on the same boat as most NHL fans

[@Platnatimingbelt]

This is what being a Canucks fan is being about like we was on such a high last year to such a low and it gets worse and worse day by day

[@deserttrailscout]

Vancouver was a beast last year. Sucks to see them go down again

[@RobertoJuanSurMontana]

Sounds like Vancouver has taken on the Bruins locker room relations (coming from this Bruins fan)

[@bingo5694]

JR - may as well should have carried around a sign that said "players for sale"

[@acerock013]

there's zero upside to the Rangers trading for JT Miller. He's on the wrong side of 30 and a lot of money for a guy who causes problems everywhere he goes. but you know what? They should do it. The Rangers deserve a problem child like JT Miller

[@natedicksonmedia]

Maybe they're thinking "better the devil you know than the devil you don't" with his 6 seasons playing there already

[@hijackjoe]

This is insane. They had a good beginning and just couldn't keep it together for like a month or two. Like something really really bad had to go down in the dressing room for this. I hadn't paid attention to cancusk since the beginning of the season and all of a sudden they lost there captain. Its crayz!

[@jeremymoller1038]

Having grown up in the area I was a big Canucks fan as a kid. Im very glad I decided to jump ship after the departure of Luongo and not stick with this ongoing dumpster fire. Having been swooned by McDavid about 4 years ago I'm sure glad to be a Oilers fan in BC

[@Mike-zf4xg]

absolutely insane, bro!!!

[@Nari-7022]

i now understand why quinn hughes always looks so stressed - this poor guy 😭😭😭

[@Napominis]

Such a bunch of babies. Just shut up and play.

[@empire0]

This. Miller acts like Mr Tough Guy, but he causes more drama than a woman

[@Yomasi]

And this mentality is why the team is losing lol

[@fluntimes]

Yeah because issues just resolve themselves. Maybe in your fantasy universe.

[@Napominis]

@ dude i dunno how old you are, but that’s the grown up world. You don’t get along most of the times with people around you, but you need to get the job done anyway. Don’t think for a second that every time that win’s the cup all love each other’s and kumbaya. They shut up and play.

[@Leroy-df3ee]

@@fluntimes Another jock sniffer.

[@enzymatic1]

As an Oilers fan, its great knowing that we broke them. 😂Just like we did the Flames too.

[@tubcupbean]

Get over yourself, canucks broke themselves

[@jordannewman177]

What I just don’t understand as a Canucks fan is why, if this management group knew from the beginning that Miller and Petterson had issues, that they chose to trade Horvat instead of Miller. Why? Literally none of this would be happening? Why did they resign Miller when he had a year left on his deal? Why did they pressure Petterson to sign within the season the year after? Why force it when you had a number 1 or 2 center in Bo Horvat who was willing to stay? The Canucks almost beat the Oilers in the playoffs last year with a third string goalie, injured Boeser in game 7, and Petterson injured and basically invisible. There is a timeline, and not one so crazy where pigs can fly, where the Canucks trade Miller instead and they beat the Oilers, beat the stars, and at least make the Cup Final in 2024. Now they are destroying the best core the Canucks have ever had, wasting the prime of and possibly losing the best defenseman they’ve ever had, and creating an environment players can’t thrive in. WTF is this management group doing?

[@NooBeRGoD]

Oilers destroyed the Canucks, metaphorically and literally. hahahahaha 🤣😂🤣

[@jordannewman177]

@ In 7 games? Against a third string goalie? By one goal? Yeah, most lopsided series in history. That Oilers team (and the one this year) were frauds who didn’t deserve to make the finals and got exposed. The only reason they forced game 7 is that Florida let their guard down.

[@NooBeRGoD]

@ Vancouver barely made it by the Predators then got wrecked by a real team. Canucks were up 3-2 too, then couldn't finish. Oilers destroyed Canucks. Frauds also don't make the SCF and come back from 3-0 in the series 🤣😂🤣

[@jordannewman177]

@ They got past the preds pretty easily if you bothered to watch that series. How did the Canucks even go up 3-2 in the first place. Not having you goalie, your top goal scorer, or your superstar playing at top level does usually hinder you in finishing a series though. And frauds absolutely go down 3-0 in a series. Again, Florida let its guard down, the fraudulent Coilers never stood a chance in that series and were never truly in it.

[@NooBeRGoD]

@@jordannewman177 The only frauds were the Canucks. Played way over their heads in the season and the superior team proved that in the playoffs. Just look how this season turned out for the frauds. Bottom half of the pacific. "Not having you goalie, your top goal scorer, or your superstar playing at top level" is all just #ExcusiumCopium to rationalize the embarrassing loss. And just to use the same "logic" you used, the Oilers came back from 3-0 forcing Game 7 against the Panthers and lost by "1 goal" which apparently means they barely beat us. I love the Oceangate submersible impression the Canucks keep doing. Sinking to the bottom of the pacific. Keep crying kid 😘

[@OvieSnips8]

At least the bandaid is ripped off now. We all don't have to guess. Hopefully media and fans can move on from it now. Either the team figures it out or trades will happen. One way this can get sorted out is if 2 adults grow up.

[@Slipings]

petey and miller are just as petty as their fans :)

[@TruYu]

They're 1pt away from the last WC spot. If the top forwards played like they did last season, or anywhere close to that, they'll be top 3 in the pacific already. Instead you got Hughes, a defenseman, having nearly 20 more pts than any other player

[@chobitASHL3Y]

why DID they trade horvat over miller?

[@pearldrums92]

I grew up playing hockey. If my captain couldn’t kick my ass I never listened to them. That may be hyperbole but I was definitely more inclined to follow somebody who didn’t mind dying on a hill for what they believed in. I was never an “enforcer” but I was big enough to protect my team mates and speak up when I needed to. I can’t help but believe some of this is due to Quinns lack of size and aggression. Just my .02

[@irogen2]

The Canucks situation is crazy

[@E-N-R-O-G-E-L]

Miller single handedly killed this season 10 game tantrum just toxic glad I never spent any hard earned money on tickets this year

[@onikwa]

I think Vancouver is stuck right now because they don't want to give up Petterson, but I think it's obvious to most teams that JT Miller is a locker room cancer and no matter how good of a player he is no one wants to give up NHL level assets for a chance to ruin your locker room, and therefore, your team. They'll either have to give away Miller for nothing or part with Petey

[@johns5527]

how about Toronto makes a deal Marner for JT Miller

[@tonyschiaroli3274]

Canucks need to start with a franchise player who they can rely on not to be a cancer in dressing room. Then only go after players who love ❤️ Canada 🇨🇦 & want to be part of growing into a championship team. The Petterson contract is insane. Hockey I.Q. is very much needed in the culture going forward 😢

[@byronloveridge8381]

should have traded Pettey last year or in the Horvat trade year... millar and horvat down the middle would have been way more cost effective and kept you away from an anchor that has poor practice habbits

[@maqywhaq]

Were you paying attention to the situation the year Horvat was traded? The drama was between JT and Horvat. They chose JT, but the same sort of issue creeped up again with other personnel(Petey now). Horvat was the Sedins' type of player, contemplative/respectful, tends not to say more than needs to be said, but a responsible leader in the room. Petey IMO is a introspective type that has a tendency to overanalyse his own playstyle to his detriment when he's better while he plays instinctively. JT's the exact opposite(when JT struggles, he primarily manifests his frustrations outwards), and while I think its possible they can work together, it'll only happen if JT were more understanding of Petey's process instead of just "do what I do, stop thinking so damn much". Both are passionate about the game, it just manifests differently.

[@KptKrunch9481]

When you guys lose Quinn Hughes (and notice I said 'when' not 'if') it won't be because of this, it will be because he's an American and he'll want to play with at least one of his brothers. But it could be worse, as you could be a Devils fan . See, I think that when the Hughes' are UFA's, they will be signed by Vegas - not sure why I just have that feeling.

[@Wers11111]

I think Elias Peterson is going to join Bo Horvat on Long Island

[@ccderik]

Nelson etc. going the other way? 😁

[@matthewcarroll5117]

And this dysfunctional train wreck absolutely smoked us the other night. God, we are in a bad place.

[@thethe-nt1tb]

But, I thought Tocchet as coach was going to fix all this?

[@breydenmartens8609]

This mess just pisses me off as a Canucks fan. I’m tired of all the hate surrounding JT Miller. Petterson clearly has been struggling the past couple seasons with consistency and honestly looks lazy after his payday, while Miller has consistently been a driving force for the team. If the rift is because of Pettersons lack of competitiveness then I completely understand why Miller would have issues with him! The highest paid player on your team isn’t contributing. I’d much rather see Petterson go than Miller. Cut your losses and use that cap space to sign a new winger. Tochett’s system doesn’t work with Petterson so replace him with someone actually eager to be a part of it

[@NooBeRGoD]

The hate for JT Miller is because he's a toxic douchebag, and Pettersson isn't even the first guy he's ever had issues with. Miller is supposed to be a leader on the team, and instead of helping to prop up his teammates he chooses to berate and belittle them into shutting down. There's nothing wrong with a firm hand from time to time, but as the saying goes "You'll attract more flies with Honey than Vinegar"

[@glenncrewdson2758]

The problem is American born players don’t want to play in Canada Canada is a stepping stone once they make a name for themselves Calgary is a sample

[@ericahn1627]

This may not be the worst part of it. It might get worse.. like far worse.

[@burgerdaveee]

quinn should demand a trade to the oilers where he can play for a team that genuinely likes each other and put up hof numbers

[@SirStanleytheStumbler]

I have to wonder if Bo got out because he saw this coming.

[@celticstephenhill]

Hughes needs to cement his legacy by winning a cup for a franchise that doesn't have one yet...so he should just go to Winnipeg

[@ryanstrohmeier8054]

Obviously, Quinn should join his brothers in NJ -- if only for the sake of the USA.

[@grimmWednesday]

K’andre Miller is “NHL ready”? 😂

[@michaeljones7372]

😅 yeah, he’s something like that for sure

[@Thebiggestbowse-hp5ed]

ABSOLUTELY!

[@Prettyboyskiingonleasedland]

Is this the same as eckheartsladder or is the dog and eck just a thing for KZbinrs?

[@Prettyboyskiingonleasedland]

If so. Great work

[@NickAlsup]

At this point the Canuck's should trade both so the rest of us can stop hearing about it

[@NordgeTehMighty]

It’s said to say it but I have a feeling Quinn will walk after his contract expires. New Jersey is calling 😥

[@Jabberwok28]

The ‘Nucks do NOT want Miller (Defenseman) from the Rags. He is a liability in his own end.

[@smallduck1001001]

They now have 2 players name Elias Petterson, this is a no brainer.

[@happytrails151]

To me it reeks of Rutherford floating these rumors just to jump start the team and now he's walking it back

[@timothywade9618]

TJ Miller, million dollar talent with a five cent brain.

[@torontothegood]

Coach, GM and captain should really be managing this a lot better.

[@ShawnBlaque]

Just trade the whole team and rename the franchise the Vancouver Millers at this point lmao

[@PieInSkyGuy]

It’s weird but Lightning fans will tell you that Miller a bit of a head case. Talented but lacking motivation. He would show up whenever he felt like it. Add to our collective frustrations, the formidable pugilist would skate the other way when the going got tough. No heart. Feel a little for Canucks fans as he is essentially fool’s gold.

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

Rutherfraud should have never got the job. We already know that Hughs doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild. He said that years ago

[@ChristafuhM]

All I ask from Vancouver. If you do indeed rebuild...and trade QH. Trade him to NJ please and thank you!

[@rushilb6]

If Quinn Hughes wants to go I think we all know where he’d want to go

[@TEFLONDONTRUMP2024]

NJ? Possibly but he also might want to carve out his own legacy instead of being tied to success of Jack and he would also put Luke in a deeper shadow than he already is

[@snfriedm]

Hughes for Hamilton 1 for 1

[@eviohh]

@snfriedm ur mom for these nutz . 1 for 1.

[@dragon-ir8te]

I think we should trade him to Buffalo if we start a rebuild. They have a TON of young assets!

[@bakikountwa2192]

@scott-q3c6x Did Quinn really said that? source please.

[@natemillergaming]

11:30 start for Canucks games. Where you from?

[@otiger_yt]

I think hes from Halifax