The Car Community is Absolutely Clueless...

[@Sillylosthisaccount]

The McLaren F1 was the only manual McLaren 😭

[@Dakkyun]

It was more gordon murray, mclaren was just the team he was under, now that he has his own company, it's definitely not a mclaren.

[@VBMichael_D]

@@Dakkyun How is this relevant to Silly's post????

[@Sillylosthisaccount]

@@VBMichael_D fr😭

[@thehomelessproject3784]

​@Dakkyun the mclaren name is the clue hear... and they've said the p1 and w1 is are successors to the legendary f1... Gordon Murray may have designed it but it is very much under the brand and is a mclaren just as the p1 and f1

[@ToyotaGRYaris9104]

I thought the McLaren F1 is an automatic

[@StoneOcean24]

It’s sad to see the modern car “community” be boiled down to “It’s an auto”, “not enough HP/Torque”, “It’s not a V8”, etc,etc.

[@ericship8383]

It’s the fact that a Ferrari f80 is 4 million dollars and is a v6 why get that when you could buy a Bugatti Chiron ss for literally the same price except that’s way more innovative and way more emotionally engaging in every way than the f80?

[@aseortoalgoritmo7002]

@@ericship8383 you get a ferrari because it's the most exclusive car brand on the planet, not for just straight line speed

[@favourmiracle7094]

@@ericship8383 if you want innovation get a Rimac Nivera. The allocation alone for Ferrari F80 now is 6 million and being sold by a dealership. The best thing about car community is that you and like minded people are complaining while they other side billionaires are finding ways to buy two.

[@greymo983]

Man ever since 2020 thr car community has been spiraling down so much

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

People calling it a V6 are not car people. If you know anything about ferrari as a brand you'd know that Enzo ferrari named The Dino after his son who died. The Dino was there first V6.

[@Doryan_GMD]

The F80 kinda remind me of the 1980's Ferrari's

[@dthechamp10]

What a coincidence 1980 Ferrari, Ferrari F80 lol.

[@lopserdff]

the Ferrari f80 in the front is remind me of the 12 of cylindri

[@HailingSailor]

Reminds me of a modern F40.

[@thatarkhambatman]

@@HailingSailor fr thats what i thought since i looked at it

[@gaara4667]

And that’s why it’s ugly

[@RealGoosman]

I love everything about the f80 except for that black horizontal stipe on the front but that’s literally it

[@thadynakat]

i thought u was on abt the old M3 for a sec 😂

[@ericship8383]

It’s overpriced for what it is 4 million dollars for a v6 when you can buy a Chiron supersport with a w16 for the same price and that car is way more engaging to drive not to mention the quality of Bugatti blows Ferrari outta the water

[@ZPaul_]

It seems to be a new trend that Ferrari is doing and I hate it

[@MostRandomYTChannel]

@@ericship8383 bro didnt watch the video 💀

[@Rodrigo_Safi]

totally agree!

[@JackHagar]

Nobody doubts that the V6 Ferrari is using is an incredible engine and that the F80 will have jaw dropping performance. It’s the idea that people think the flagship Ferrari should have a V12 because it’s more extravagant and dramatic to drive. People are annoyed at how the push for performance has made cars less exciting

[@hertzwave8001]

Kind of this, people that keep simping saying "iT wOn Le MaNs ThO" are missing the point of an ultimate series car, not to mention as you said, the 296, which looks and sounds pretty good, already has said V6 motor in it. An ultimate ferrari should have a much more exotic motor put into it.

[@fifteen8850]

@@hertzwave8001nah, Ferrari’s always had their flagships be about maxing out what a car can do. The F80 is no different

[@nathandsouza7104]

This.

[@Archeoptery]

Especially considering the purosangue has a v12

[@VBMichael_D]

IDGAF how incredible it is. Nissan makes world class V6 engines....they still dont' f$#@#$ belong in sports cars.

[@justmoonwithamustache]

"When has McLaren ever offered a manual transmission?" F1: "Am i a joke to you?"

[@removedmotivechannel]

hes just a kid who thinks he knows something he isnt even aware of the F1.. dont mind him

[@brq44]

no cuz that’s like the only car

[@koldterms]

​@@removedmotivechannel there is 90% chance he's older than you, relax, racist degenerate.

[@Stealthassin135]

Right. So only the F1 is a real Mclaren. All the other ones are trash, right? The 720S, the Senna, the P1, The 765LT are all shit cars.

[@nicklibby3784]

​@@Stealthassin135 the REAL McLaren F1 as in - the one they used for racing in GT1, Le Mans etc. etc. was a semi auto (aka a manual sequential gearbox). You simply pushed the stick up to shift up, and pulled the stick down to shift down. No clutch needed, thought it did have a clutch pedal for starts.

[@LaZyAF1]

Sounds like a vacuum cleaner. THAT'S THE ISSUE.

[@GF-mf7ml]

and price

[@phammanh2689]

A vacuum cleaner sounds better.

[@hertzwave8001]

most TTV6/V8 motors might, but the 296 does not. Its no V12 to be sure but do not confuse it with most other V6 engines

[@nathandsouza7104]

@@hertzwave8001 it sounds worse than a 296. You Literally cant hear it.

[@jansedlak8505]

​@@nathandsouza7104That's beacuse of water being kicked up from under those wide tires.

[@mony451]

1:25 The McLaren F1 my guy

[@RealG23__]

What

[@Jusuff]

​@@RealG23__He asked when has McLaren ever made a manual car. The McLaren F1 was a manual

[@RealG23__]

@ oh yeh ok kl

[@RealG23__]

@ yeh I knew

[@koredeadigun548]

@RealG23__ you so didn’t know

[@MysticalPhantom1]

Car community summary $100,000-$200,000 for a Nissan V6 ✅ $300,000 for the Ford Mustang GTD ✅ $1,000,000 for the modern Ford GT V6 which is made in Canada ✅ $4,000,000 for a Ferrari V6 made with high quality and performance ❌

[@ericship8383]

all those cars are overpriced the problem is the Ferrari costs the same price as a Bugatti Chiron supersport when the Chiron ss is more limited, has a better engine, and better quality why would you buy the f80 that’s objectively a worse car than the Bugatti?

[@favourmiracle7094]

@@ericship8383 Why buy a Chiron if you are not racing a airplane. Buy a Ferrari F12 and enjoy the road

[@MysticalPhantom1]

@ericship8383 right, I agree. The thing is Bugatti is one of the most exclusive brands in the world. Ferrari is known for their racing technology in their street cars and their formula legacy. Obviously a Bugatti has higher standards than a Ferrari, but when it comes to price you are buying the legacy, not the vehicle itself because higher class vehicles are known to be “works of art”. When you get in the seat of a Bugatti or a Ferrari you are stepping into the legacy of Enzo and Ettore. As for the price it’s just reserved for the millionaires 🤷 but other than that everything is changing and brands just have to adapt

[@Iberia737]

@@ericship8383buddy this isnt a roblox racing game youre acting like if people buy these cars to compete like grow tf up

[@Matthew7Smith]

If the v6 is so special why is it also in the 296 While having a v12 in the purosangue

[@falcongamer58]

the video has good points and bad points. The good points are when you state facts to counter the misconceptions. The bad points are when you take opinions and treat them as bot comments *Design:* W1 and F80 look worse than their predecessors and arguably on an objective standard too. *_The W1_* has very little line synergy and too many broken up elements, the sizeable black trim isn't helping either. The only elements I like are the longtail dynamic wing and the Mclaren emblem looking side intake which could've looked better if the rest of the car had better design flow. *_The F80_* doesn't have the sharp look of the Enzo and Laferrari, and again, same design flow issues as the W1, they also no longer use round taillights, but as opposed to the W1, it can look appealing if you view at it as an F40 successor minus the design flow breakups, rather than an Enzo and Laferrari successor. *Powertrain:* I don't have complaints about the *_McLaren W1,_* although I think more could've been done in weight reduction. But for the *_Ferrari F80,_* even though the V6 is from their LMH racecar, it's still a V6 when competitors had V8s and soon Aston Martin with Valkyrie V12, and the fact that their flagship hypercar has a V6 when the SF90 has a V8 and their SUV has a N/A V12 paints bad optics and a worse image on the F80. I would've given more leeway if the V6 was from their F1 car like the AMG One. Not only does it not look like a Ferrari apex hypercar, it does not have an engine to match the price and lineage. In ways, it carries the same burden as the V6 Ford GT

[@erickmk2682]

The V6 in the lemans car is straight piped.. in the F80 it's refined and almost silent which makes it a bit soulless

[@VBMichael_D]

For anyone who isn't deaf, the straight piped 350 and or 370 should have taught all of us to not straight pipe (or even install) a V6 in a car.

[@Conneticat_yt]

The problem with the f80 is that that the w1 is better in almost every way (expect 0-100 and 0-200 (kph) Ferrari: 1200hp, 1679 kg and 1000kg downforce | Mclaren: 1275hp, 1399kg and 1200kg downforce. AND the ferrari costs over 1mil more and it has literally no engine sound from the outside. I personally think that it actually doesnt look bad but if i am buying a hypercar i want it to at least have some sound.

[@GF-mf7ml]

The main complaint is the price/performance. That price you should have something else. If it's same price like SF90 or 12 cylinders then fine but 4 million? They're asking Bugatti Koenigsegg price for upgraded SF90.

[@fifteen8850]

I’m pretty sure the Ferrari has more down force

[@jansedlak8505]

F80 actually has more downforce. At 250kph W1 has around 800kg and F80 has 1000kg. F80 has AWD, fully active Multimatic suspension(W1 has only passive-active) and much wider tires than the W1. Do you remember, how SF90XX got beaten by GT Black Series on Hockenheim, mostly beacuse Mercedes had wider tires? Narrow tires were good on the Senna, beacuse it was quitel light, but W1 weights more than 1.5 t with all the fluids. Tires are going to overheat. Yes, F80 weights more and has slightly less horsepower, but 918 was also much heavier and less powerful than P1 and LaFerrari. 918 ended up beating McLaren and Ferrari. Now, the difference between AWD car and RWD car was cut in half. Ferrari's V6 has no sound? That's not surprising, considering that it had driven on a super dump track with all the water being kicked up from under the wheels. McLaren played W1's V8 sound on its launch and it's definetly not the best 8 cylinder engine put on a car. It had a strange "whine"? sound. If you are choosing between F80 and W1, engine is not a crucial aspect. (If W1 had also driven on such a wet track, then it would have been barely driveable.)

[@Conneticat_yt]

@@GF-mf7ml agree

[@Conneticat_yt]

@@fifteen8850 nope. look it up

[@Charmer_boy]

The W1's rear wing is crazy cool

[@Funanial]

Fr. And it flows so well with the car's lines

[@ThinkingCrimson]

​@@Funanial and the mechanisim is nuts.

[@jansedlak8505]

It's a shame, that it is illegal to drive on the road with that rear wing.

[@Roman-z9j]

i wish it raised up a little higher like the p1 but it's still cool though.

[@zekeaffy9647]

Thats the problem, you guys dont know they spent waayyyy to much money with skunkworks on that part, now the car is 80 percent functional (perfomance) and design language is dead (20 percent) according to a friend of mine.

[@Gearhead_Collective]

On paper, the F80 sounds slow, underpowered, and unrealistic with a V6. But its actually a fantastic car, like yeah, its weird for the hypercar to have a V6 and the SUV to have a V12, but the V6 is from an LMP car put into a road car! But, the only part I don't like is that black stripe on the front, otherwise I think its a beautiful car with lots of Ferrari design heritage like the F40 and Enzo.

[@ericship8383]

It’s still overpriced for what it is the Bugatti Chiron ss is more limited with a better engine yet somehow the Ferrari costs the same as the Bugatti 😂

[@bobtheseagull]

@@ericship8383just stop glazing the chiron ss

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

@@ericship8383Comparing a track car to a top speed caris dumb. people who buy hypercars buy the one they like more, not the one that's faster. at the end of the day they all give you the same concussion when you floor it.

[@GetFuckedTrump]

@@ericship8383 bro is definitely 2 yrs old

[@K3b1bisLtu]

If you compare it with other AWD hybrids, then the numbers sound impressive.

[@Epik_minty]

0:20 how did u know i have fanta in my house

[@Ericitzbeemwriten-f9j]

i did not

[@ronixmajor1120]

I agree people don't do their research before judge an amazing car😢

[@ericship8383]

It having a lemans engine is irrelevant you’re never gonna see these being tracked on a daily basis this is why a lot of owners prefer the v12 because of the emotional engagement even James may from the original top gear said that cars that chase only lap times have been ruined and he isn’t wrong

[@aseortoalgoritmo7002]

@@ericship8383 that same V6 makes more than the LaFerrari engines combined. In their flagship series ferrari use the latest and most cutting edge technology (in this case the Lemans V6 with 900hp alone)

[@ericship8383]

@@aseortoalgoritmo7002buddy for 4 million dollars you’re better off buying something that’s actually different and innovative like a Chiron supersport or a koenigsegg jesko both of those cars when it comes to engineering make the Ferrari look like a child they wanna charge mega car money for a v6 ? Yea that’s a joke 😂

[@favourmiracle7094]

@@ericship8383 The question is. Are the ones that have the allocation suddenly want to buy a Chiron or Jesko? If that was the case they would have bought it and moved on. The Ferrari collectors that bought it are not thinking about buying a foreign brand all of a sudden. They trust Ferrari and Ferrari see them as good customers.

[@favourmiracle7094]

@@ericship8383 Are you the owner? If you have one on the way then I will understand your point and just cancel your order. There are more people that want it. Also if it's going to stay in a garage, a v12 is not going to make any difference. And the ones that are buying this car already have a LaFerrari or SP3(that's why the market for those two cars are so high now) or a V12 Ferrari.

[@HVLOVRSE]

I wouldn't pay attention to all the hate bc after like 4 or 5 years, they'll all be loved by everyone again... me personally I did kind of agree to the whole V12 SUV and V6 hypercar thing, but knowing it's continuing the legacy of fitting a race car engine in the flagship hypercar makes the V6 soundtrack understandable

[@ericship8383]

No for what it is 4 million dollars is overpriced you can get something that’s actually worth it like the Bugatti Chiron ss that car blows this f80 outta the water the difference between Bugatti and Ferrari is night and day

[@aseortoalgoritmo7002]

@@ericship8383 nfs ahh car knowledge

[@favourmiracle7094]

@@ericship8383 Okay now put both on a track and let's see. That boat called the SS will sail into the barriers at the first corner.

[@greymo983]

​@@ericship8383bro is franticaly mad, comment more than 5 times on one video😭🙏

[@Itz_umair_009]

@@ericship8383ain’t no way bro got cooked 5 times 😭💀

Your not wrong bro. The V6 hate is annoying

[@ericship8383]

Not really it’s justified why buy a v6 for 4 million dollars when a Bugatti Chiron ss is also the same price except it has a more innovative engine not to mention the Chiron ss’s quality blows the Ferrari outta the water

[@aseortoalgoritmo7002]

@@ericship8383 more innovative engine? No just no

[@favourmiracle7094]

@@ericship8383 You know Chiron is decreasing in value lately. Have you seen with you Chiron glazing. If you see a V6 then I see a VW since most of the materials used can be found in regular cars.

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

@@ericship8383It's not justified. why should cylinder count determine how "quality" it is. buggati's w16 isn't innovative, same basic design as 20 Year old veyron. also it's still equally performing to a V8 whilst weighing 1.5 times it due to extra cylinders and overcomplexity.

[@benjaminmatute9085]

@ericship8383 You literally have a Tesla as your pfp. Talking about”eRm sAvE tHe eNvIrOmEnT” while talking about a bigger gas guzzling engine. Nah, you can’t be talking.

[@DominikMaslyk]

Ferrari’s hypercars have always had racing bits in then. F40: A lot of it is based off the cancelled 288 GTO Evoluzione homologation models. F50: Tipo F130B engine previously used in the 641 F1 car and F333 SP prototype that has been detuned, bored and stroked to 4.7l Enzo (F60): F1 derived gearbox, carbon tub and brakes LaFerrari (F70): Carbon tub and KERS system. F80: V6 with 499P bits, MGU hybrid system from F1

[@Aamir-2999]

99.999999 percent of people hating on these cars cant even afford them and aren't even the target audience of them.

[@ericship8383]

Funny because a Bugatti and pagani owner on Instagram has said literally the exact same thing 😂 people can have opinions regardless of their budget and he isn’t wrong for the same price buy a Chiron ss or a pagani utopia both of those cars are pieces of art compared to this ferrari

[@Tehillah_Kabwe]

99.999999999% of people watching this video can't afford a car in general. You don't need to be able to afford a certain car to have an opinion on it, you just need to have the information that is required to have the right to form an opinion

[@favourmiracle7094]

@@ericship8383 Ferrari is the oldest and most prestigious brand. Bugatti and Ferrari come no where near. Ferrari most expensive car cost more than the top 2 most expensive Bugatti's and Pagani's combined. That's some tiktok knowledge you got there. Without Ferrari, Pagani didn't exist. Bugatti was lucky that VW bought them or they would have gone bankrupt. All those time Ferrari kept producing and being number one. Owners of the F80 can ask any Bugatti or Pagani owner if they have any race wins.

[@the.getaway.drifter]

​@Tehillah_Kabwe tye best thing is that SocialOrbit even talked about this in a previous video and said that people say "you can't have an opinion on this car if you can't afford it" looks like you're new to the channel

[@Aamir-2999]

@@Tehillah_Kabwe sorry if my comment was worded badly, the message i was trying to convey was that most of the people who hate on these cars aren't even the ones who are going to end up buying it. they just hate on it cuz they feel like it, not because Ferrari or McLaren did a bad job, they hate on it just because they want to be "unique" and "cool".

[@slocarfr]

there is 0 reason to hate the w1

[@cool-username2]

exactly, like you might not like it because of the black think on the front or the rear end being questionable, but that isnt a reason to hate it

[@ItsDaJax]

People can hate something for any reason they want. It's their personal liberty and choice.

[@fazebugatti988]

its an amazing car, my only issue(not hating) is that it doesn't looks like a signature mclaren anymore with the headlights but ig we have a new era

[@deanchur]

It's yet another 4.0 TTV8 from McLaren but priced like a hypercar, and it was a perfect opportunity for McLaren to use the Solus V10 and gain big points against Ferrari, but they didn't.

[@Unloaded74]

Or f80.

[@kanz7630]

BROOOO I FRICKING LOVE THE F80 except that black bar trying to resemble an older Ferrari, like bro it’s OVERHATED ASH

[@ericship8383]

It’s not overhated they’re making 799 units of a v6 for 4 million dollars a Bugatti Chiron ss has around 50 units with a w16 costing also 4 million dollars the Bugatti is literally a superior car

[@kanz7630]

@ yes the V6 annoys me tho

[@thatguy-ee4lg]

⁠@@ericship8383so just because the Chiron ss has a Quad Turbo w16 and only 50 unit were SOLD not Made it’s superior??

[@GetFuckedTrump]

@@ericship8383 bro is 5

[@fuhiyo]

​@@ericship8383shut ur literally unser every comment

[@TheBrickChannel-j9k]

They don’t understand that more cylinders doesn’t mean it’s better😭. On top of that, Ferrari is a race team first, car company second so it would make sense to use a v6 which is being used in WEC and F1.

[@xninja2369]

THISSS 👆.

[@VBMichael_D]

It's not necessarily the number of cylinders, it's the configuration. All horizontally opposed engines (not calling them boxers), inline sixes, and V12 engines are intrinsically balanced. The others, including an I4 and V8, are not fully balanced and require additional items that have mass and rotating mass. However, for a supersport motorcycle (lookin at you Yami, Triumph and Ducati), inline 4 cylinders ARE better than inline 3 and twins.

[@removedmotivechannel]

hahaha so smart. u clearly have not invested much time thinking about the whole topic. a hypercar has to be good at atleast 1 thing. Its either design and emotion, acceleration and top speed or track times. the F80 achieved none of that. Its engine is not emotional. Not in the slightest. A V6 twin turbo with 900 hp that sounds like a vacuum cleaner. On the side we have the Valkyrie with a N/A V12 pumping out 1000 hp. Despite that, the Valkyrie is 200kg lighter then the F80. So if Ferrari chose the V6 because its so light and awesome, why is their car 1550kg heavy and 200kg heavier then the Valkyrie with V12? The Jesko with its 1600hp V8 is 130kg lighter then the F80. Then they claim that the F80 is a track focused car. The F80 is heavy and 4WD and has "only" 1000kg downforce. The Jesko Attack is lighter, 2WD and has 1400kg downforce. And lets dont even talk about the other competition in the hypercar world. Because if u want to be part in the "holy trinity", u better be one of the BEST. And the F80 aint it. We have the Valkyrie, Jesko Attack, Venom F5 revolution, Zenvo Aurora, Tourbillion, Czinger, W1, soon hopefully Porsche and RImac Nivera. The F80 is the last light. 1200hp, V6 twin turbo, hybrid, 4WD, only 217mph top speed. that thing is good at nothing, compared to other hypercars. And its the ugly duckling with his monobrow and non existent design flow.

[@xninja2369]

@VBMichael_D yep you are 💯 correct. Mathamatically I6 ARE MOST BALANCED and reliable engine , so the I12 is , but not V12 .. I4 is really good one too..

[@xninja2369]

@removedmotivechannel now this made me rethink a lot , you are probably making a good point , but for my personal point this is good looking car , btw your point are correct BUT THAT'S NOT HOW PEOPLE argue logically , THAT'S point of the video .. they just blindly follow

[@TheChazas]

The ones that act like "manual" guys yet drive an automatic, the ones that complain about V6, yet drives a diesel, the ones that complain about all cars, yet don't have a driver's license, etc...

[@Marco-0512]

This guy just proved me wrong for the f80 and im 12. Now im inspired from him to be myself and not follow what the car community does or my "friends"

[@removedmotivechannel]

wow ur easily impressed a hypercar has to be good at atleast 1 thing. Its either design and emotion, acceleration and top speed or track times. the F80 achieved none of that. Its engine is not emotional. Not in the slightest. A V6 twin turbo with 900 hp that sounds like a vacuum cleaner. On the side we have the Valkyrie with a N/A V12 pumping out 1000 hp. Despite that, the Valkyrie is 200kg lighter then the F80. So if Ferrari chose the V6 because its so light and awesome, why is their car 1550kg heavy and 200kg heavier then the Valkyrie with V12? The Jesko with its 1600hp V8 is 130kg lighter then the F80. Then they claim that the F80 is a track focused car. The F80 is heavy and 4WD and has "only" 1000kg downforce. The Jesko Attack is lighter, 2WD and has 1400kg downforce. And lets dont even talk about the other competition in the hypercar world. Because if u want to be part in the "holy trinity", u better be one of the BEST. And the F80 aint it. We have the Valkyrie, Jesko Attack, Venom F5 revolution, Zenvo Aurora, Tourbillion, Czinger, W1, soon hopefully Porsche and RImac Nivera. The F80 is the last light. 1200hp, V6 twin turbo, hybrid, 4WD, only 217mph top speed. that thing is good at nothing, compared to other hypercars. And its the ugly duckling with his monobrow and non existent design flow.

[@CosmicOcean-jv4eu]

You are literally following someone lol

[@Vinraymi]

I personally really like the W1, but I don't like the F80. the big black bar up front really ruins the whole thing, and it's way too angular and aggressive yet almost rectangular, it's weird. To me, the new 296GTB or whatever it's called looks so much better

[@ZPaul_]

Idk much about the WEC rules but people need to understand that in WEC the hypercar regulations (LMH), a production version of the car must be made or at least the powertrain must be put into a production vehicle. I could be wrong.

[@TumbiMtika]

The thing is that the 499P's engine is similar to the 296's already, so they met homologation already. Ferrari didn't have to make this car, but they chose to anyway. And yet people are still complaining...🙄

[@Rngh00101]

​@@TumbiMtikalet them keep complaing all 799 sold out what are they gonna do about it.

[@iiPolaris]

that rule became defunct it's not mandatory anymore BUT manufacturers can still choose to if they want to

[@eleazar5942]

I have no problem with that, but to have it be the La Ferrari replacement, noooooooo mannnnnnnn👎🏾

[@splatpro957]

People just either love hating, or hate change

[@Shadowbloxv4]

Bots ruined everything

[@egg-ts4fo]

The problem eith the f80 imo is it isnt the right successor to the laferrari the f40-laferrari all had v12s and ferrari still makes v12s with the le mans car they don't need to keep a v6 they shoudvle made the Daytona sp3 the f80 and made the f80 a track focused non laferrari succesor hypercar Edit mb f40 had a v8 I still do think the f80 wasn't right because of how different it looks imo it should be as refined as possible and keep the same general look as the LaFerrari because of how different it looks from the LaFerrari whereas the LaFerrari looked like a more refined enzo

[@favourmiracle7094]

The F40 had a TT V8.

[@TumbiMtika]

The F40 had a twin-turbo V8.

[@TumbiMtika]

@@egg-ts4fo The F40 was never a V12. You have zero idea what you are talking about.

[@egg-ts4fo]

@@TumbiMtika mb I heard someone else say it was a v12

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

@@TumbiMtikaI can see what he means about the looks, but Cylinder count is entirely irrelevant to me.

[@IK_MK]

The Ferrari isn't unappealing because its quote on quote ugly... Its not what people think of when they hear ferrari😢. They think of Pininfarina, curvy design. Even if I or many can't afford it, don't say public opinion doesn't matter.

[@Car_Guy.24]

The rear of the Ferrari F80 at 4:34 look kinda like the rear of a F40 but “modernized”, just me?

[@AmineMokhlisse]

Yup the grill at the back make it look like the f40

[@JayJayzqu]

yo thanks for the vid bro.. ur vids just make my day

[@DrGrombles]

Most of the car community boiled down to trying your absolute hardest to look cool without actually knowing anything about cars or how to drive

[@01iverQueen]

The problem isn't a V6. This V6 comes straight from Le Mans winning race car. But the problem is, that Ferrari is making their engines smaller and Ferraris are known for their V8s and V12s.

[@TheBlackJac]

So in other words. The problem is that it's a V6 💀💀

[@01iverQueen]

@TheBlackJac yeah and?

[@TheBlackJac]

@01iverQueen "the problem isn't a V6" then states exactly how the V6 is an issue. Don't contradict you're own statement 💀. At least you doubled down when replying.

[@01iverQueen]

@TheBlackJac well yes and no. If you weren't this short sighted you would realize that V6 itself would have been ok, if: 1) Ferraris were mostly known for their v6, which they are not 2) it wasn't a trend to make smaller engines, "fOr ThE eNvIrOnMeNt", which we know changes nothing for the climate. So here, "double down" on that with your cringy emojis

[@TheBlackJac]

@01iverQueen this how I know you know nothing about cars and just follow what people say. 1. Ferraris ARE known for their v6 engines. Been making it ever since the 50s. So what you talking bout? 2. A trend? Where? Better for the environment? Yea because a smaller engine that still produces gas makes it better 💀💀 please. They make V6 engines simply because of its superior performance compared to a V12 engine, better weight distribution, and tuning ability. Oh and guess what. A V6 can reach a higher power density per liter compared to a V12. You clearly don't know what you talkin bout. Do you research and understand why cars are the way they are and why companies make certain engines for certain reasons before talking bout some "its a V6".

[@just_violet]

The point is not if it has a V6 or not... the point is that it is literally mute

[@Conneticat_yt]

1:30 WOW finally someone who said it

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

I disagree. it's not ugly, but not super good looking either. the f80s design is flawed to on the exterior. I like the exterior of the Revuelto and F8 more than both of these honestly

[@Conneticat_yt]

@@Jeremiah-r3q ok. but i really like the desigen (expect the tail lighs) . if i would design a super / hyper car it would look something like this. But i agree with everything else u said.

[@LiljamezZz]

4:17 black piece from the daytona

[@architectthecarguy]

We don't care if it's from a lemans engine car! all we care about is sound on hyper cars! Point blank period

[@titantitties]

Aren't hypercars supposed to be the fastest kind of Sportscar? Now people care about sound?

[@Szauron]

"I like how the W1 looks because I'm open to change, if you don't agree with me you are not and just follow the community opinion without a single thought" Nice argumentation man 00:52

[@dthechamp10]

The F80 is a good car. I'll admit when I heard it had a V6 I was not a fan till I learnt it was from Ferraris prototype Le man's car, then I liked it. so right now it's just the headlight and some area from the rear end that bugs me. still 10/10 car.

[@ericship8383]

It’s overpriced for what it is you have to be dumb to choose a Ferrari f80 over something like the Chiron supersport or the agera rs both of those cars actually are superior when it comes to engineering in every way and those cars came out 5-7 years ago

[@aseortoalgoritmo7002]

@@ericship8383 only superior in a drag race in everything else the F80 wipes the floor

[@dthechamp10]

@@ericship8383 You are right, the cars actually have innovative tech, if I were to get a hypercar, I would want something that can take the corners at the Nurburgring, not just top speed. The hybrid system allows for a good 0-60. and I won't lie... I think you're trying to glaze the Chiron and the Agera since in my opinion, they are not in the same class as any Ferrari really. NO HATE TO YOU BTW.

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

@@ericship8383The engineering is so superior it got backhanded by a V8 By two different companies, and one of them literally was a stretched lotus.

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

@@dthechamp10He's calling a hypercar overpriced and hating it because it's made in more than a few hundred units. He says this but if the car isn't mad ein units how the hell is he supposed to buy it if he did the 4 million.

[@just_violet]

When the LaFerrari got announced there was the same exact hate around. "Omg why is it hybrid!"...and stuff like that.

[@jeronimo7467]

I will be forever grateful, your channel changed my entire life when I started investing with the platform you told us to invest with on facebook and I will continue to preach your name so that everyone will hear that you saved me from a huge financial debt. Thank you❤❤.

[@ChristineHoeflich1]

My husband and I also joined them. And things have changed for us since last year.

[@AjayAntony-o6i]

How can I contact the platform?

[@jeronimo7467]

On facebook

[@jeronimo7467]

4 Eleven 4

[@Josenoe11]

It's always nice to see people saying more good things about them

[@IScoreUnderPressure4]

The thing is, if you're gonna have a 3 million dollar exotic car, it needs to have an exotic engine. Yes that v6 is better than the v12. That doesn't really matter because the whole point of these cars is exclusively, even down to the engine. Not to mention the sound you get from a v6 doesn't compare to the sound you get in a v12 or at least a v8. The Daytona sp3 should have been the f80

[@Kenneth-1900]

Fantastic video! It’s exciting to see all these exotic cars up close. But I’d recommend that anyone thinking about getting one of these luxury cars should consult a financial advisor first, it’s a massive investment. I’ve been working with a great advisor, Stephanie Janis Stiefel, for years. She has a stellar track record, both in helping me grow my investments and with the right financial planning when I considered getting a luxury car. If anyone’s considering a high-value purchase, she’s someone you should check out. You can find her online pretty easily

[@DjanArtiles]

I know this lady you just mentioned. Stephanie Janis Stiefel is a portfolio manager and investment advisor. She gained recognition as an employee of neuberger berman; a renowned investor she is. Stephanie Janis Stiefel has demonstrated expertise in investment strategies and has been involved in managing portfolios and providing guidance to clients.

[@TiniZineb-d3y]

Totally agree with you. These cars are beautiful, but making a huge investment without a proper financial plan can be risky. I also work with Stephanie Janis Stiefel, and she really helped me stay grounded when I was eyeing a McLaren. She’s practical, knows the market, and just gets the big picture.

[@richardwagner6359]

Good point! I know people jump in headfirst with luxury buys, especially with cars like these. I’ve also been working with Stephanie Janis Stiefel for a couple of years, and she’s helped me make smarter choices, especially with bigger purchases like my Aston Martin. Stephanie’s advice kept me from overextending myself, which is priceless when you’re eyeing something that’s more than just a car, it’s a financial commitment

[@BrianWMoore]

Thanks for the heads-up. I was actually thinking about getting an exotic car myself, maybe a Ferrari or a Bentley, but I was unsure if it was the right move right now. Could really use an advisor who knows how to guide this sort of decision, and it sounds like Stephanie Janis Stiefel. might be exactly who I need. How do I get in touch with her?

[@DanKelleher-d2y]

​@@BrianWMooreWell her name is 'STEPHANIE JANIS STIEFEL'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

[@Ca18detEnjoyer]

The biggest problem and this is not exclusive to the car community But lately the extremists on either ends of arguments are getting more vocal and more stubborn Like this for example New car comes out and people hate it because it’s new But then there’s also the group that don’t listen to actual criticism because they just see it as new car hate It’s like the whole Jdm vs muscle arguments that used to exist at on Facebook but even worse and so much more cringy sometimes if that’s even possible Ive seen so much constructive criticism for modern vehicles get called wrong because “oh you’re just hating cause it’s new “ and then an equal amount of love for a new car that gets met with “oh you just like new things” Then to make it even worse, there’s now even parts of the car community that fight against a “fake” group of people Best example of this is this super massive extreme hate for anything close to being “purist” that some people will now call you a fake car guy and a disgusting purist because you don’t treat your car like absolute garbage Like there are now genuinely people who think whistlin diesel is more of a car guy than jay leno because jay leno doesn’t purposely destroy his own cars for attention. I wish that was a joke but I have seen multiple people say that It won’t be hard for you to now find people who with literally any car will say “oh no I don’t like it because it’s stock” and it’ll be even more common to see people who will see a very clean and well cared for car and say “oh it’s a garage queen and must never get driven, it’s sad to see cool cars die” meanwhile it’s sitting on higher mileage than the commenters mother Just yesterday I saw someone say that the reason why no one knows about the beetle rsi because purists overhated it… where the fuck is the logic in that, not only are vw purists the only ones keeping the existing rsi’s alive and where did you get the idea that purists hate a special edition beetle when purists are like the only group who care about special editions It’s gotten so bad that even I with my really ratty looking s13 that’s very clearly not oem, have been called a purist because I’m putting a lot of effort into making it not look like a piece of of shit What’s worse is this is making it significantly harder for new people to join the community, yeah new cars being a lot less friendly to enthusiasts but also because the community is so so divided and extremist. Add in the whole clout chaser mindset and we’re now left with a community that just hates itself

[@EX0TICALZ59]

f80 looks retro

[@tropixx8143]

I've BEEN saying this bro, every time a new car gets announced the npcs flock to it and start saying shit like "it looks like a GTA car"

[@ineedamaxwyn]

In this video you do a whole lot of generalization instead of giving valid and constructive criticism. I'm open to new cars. I loved the G8X's when they were released and the front end was a huge reason why. I loved the W1 the moment I saw it's release on Car and Driver. I even love the design of the F80. I'm a huge fan of Ferrari (The LaFerrari is my dream car and to me the most beautiful car ever created period.) and I understand that the engine they put in the F80 is the same one they use in their LeMans car that won Lemans. However, this isn't enough to justify giving your SUV a V12 and your four-million-dollar flagship hypercar a V6. A hypercar has to meet multiple different criteria to be considered a hypercar. Sound is one of them (It's why I didn't write off the 296 when it was released. Ferrari is right, it is "piccolo V12". It sounds AMAZING.). Exhiliration is one of them. Performance is also one of them but it doesn't make up everythingg. The F80 just doesn't do it for me. It's way too quiet, the interior is bullshit and is going to age horribly. I mean come on, "The first-ever single-seater for two occupants."? WTF!? How are you going to make me pay 4 million+ for a car that can sit two but doesn't have a second seat!? I'm not alone in this. I went to my Ferrari dealership recently and spoke to an owner that was there for his 812 Comp delivery and even he said the same thing. So many car collectors on Instagram share the same sentiment as well so the "he who cannot afford said product has an invalid opinion on said product" argument doesn't work here. And even though the F80 will probably outperform most newly released hypercars on the track, It doesn't even matter because most owners won't track it. Next time you disagree with people about something, instead of calling them out for their opinion you can make an argument for yours instead of just saying they're sheep when both sides have valid arguments.

[@xninja2369]

You didn't even get the point of video , 😂 People WHO HATES CAR AREN'T LIKE YOU , that don't habe valid reason to hate ( Mostly) , THEY THINK high cylinder = better ,if car don't have manual it's BAD ... THAT'S PART IF THE PROBLEM , old people aren't open to change , and kid are just following trend THEY DON'T KNOW F* about anything... The problem is THEY ARE blind HATING WITHOUT ANY VALID ARGUMENT or knowledge..

[@hertzwave8001]

@@xninja2369 so you think the video poster was cherry picking examples, and you yourself did not understand the point of what OP said

[@hertzwave8001]

F80, without that stupid black stripe (i dont what "homage" they are trying to do, it doesnt match up with the rest of the cars lines at all, its just...there)would be a pretty good looking car, i think it would have worked better as a successor to the 296/sf90

[@xninja2369]

@@hertzwave8001 you are just hating car based on black strip is pure based on your taste and has no valid reason .. Even though I don't hate this one I can provide better ACTUAL reason to hate this car 😂.. And if you think I misunderstood op's statement then you can clear it further ..

[@hertzwave8001]

@@xninja2369 (ignores everything i've actually said)

[@pinakchhajwani3133]

i dont even mind the w1, its a great car tbh with great features but the problem is the f80, its kinda underwhelming with respect to the McLaren, i get the fact that the v6 is better and all and im all for modernisation of engines and all but it looks garbage compared to the LaFerrari, that car is wayy to beautiful to be compared to the F80 (also the fact that v12s that we've heard just sound wayyy better), i hope yall agree as well

[@Koffie_14]

OIL UP ORBIT🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@JayJayzqu]

AYO WTH MY NIGGA

[@FlynRider-r8y]

Is it a Lego or a car? Ferrari: Yes

[@averywebb1179]

My problem with the v6 isn’t the fact that it’s a V6. It’s just what it’s in. I don’t really care if it’s from a Camry or anything like that (which it’s not.) because those are good engines. In a car that costs 4 million dollars I feel that the screaming V12 is just part of the draw of a car like that. The sound of it made it twice as savage than it already was. And a car like that is just missing something with a V6 like that. It just is sort of lost on me. I’m a firm believer that any engine can sound good (yes even those “filthy” 4 bangers.) But a screaming v12 is hard to beat.

@@averywebb1179 so essentially your saying your extremely bias and hypocritical when you talk about price of these vehicles. It doesn’t matter what the engine is their over priced no matter how you look at it.

[@intensa10]

“Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines” - Enzo Ferrari

[@ItsDaJax]

Then three, more aero Fords took first through third place, and if I recall; two of his cars had engine failures.

[@roguescorner9042]

Well, in this day and age, aero counts for a lot. Having the best engine around doesn't mean much if other, less powerful cars can win races thanks to their aerodynamic design. You can talk about your engines all you want. But in a race, it's not the only thing that matters. Otherwise, we'd be seeing Williams and Sauber winning races all the time in F1, given the engine they use.

[@Jesus_stan]

Ignore the NPCs. I personally don't like the new V6, and i understand it's a high-performance engine, but that's about it. At this point, Ferrari is chasing numbers. So, regardless of how amazingly performing the car is, it'll always have something missing. Sometimes its not about numbers, it's about tradition.

[@Joakim-rennsport-gt3]

The fact that the F80 used the Le Mans winning V6 is similar to the 918 using the same V8 from the LMP2 Spyder RS. The previous Holy Trinity's engines had something bound to their brands' achievements. Just because it's a V6 that *does not* mean it sucks. If Nissan makes a hypercar with their 3.8L 6 cylinder the community'd likely to glaze it to oblivion.

[@pranavmahaeswar4394]

It's like they think moar cylinders=moar power

[@ericship8383]

Well the Ferrari costs the same as a Bugatti Chiron ss with a w16 that makes 1600 hp though in reality makes 1700+ horsepower not to mention the Bugatti has 15x less units made than the f80 the Ferrari is literally overpriced

[@thatguy-ee4lg]

@@ericship8383it’s crazy cause a top fuel drag car has a N/A V8 and 99.99% make WAY more power than a quad turbo w16

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

@@ericship8383Unts made has no relevance. that increases peoples chance of having an interesting car. the V6 makes only a little less power compared to the W16 while weighing far less, not to mention the F80 can actually turn. The W16 isn't innovative the same idea was used in the 20 year old veyron.

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

@@thatguy-ee4lgEeexxactly. Buggati being overly complex while getting outdone buy a company that uses mustang engines. the meat riding is almost pathetic.

[@thatguy-ee4lg]

@@Jeremiah-r3q it IS pathetic

[@JamesNoss]

Since when smaller engine with more power is bad, most race cars don’t go above 6 cylinders, f1-6, wrc- 4, group b 1985- 5 in audi rest had 4, LMH-6. Secondly, stupid kids that say hybrid is bad don’t understand how power is produced by the engine and how power increases with rpm, F1- hybrid, Wrc- hybrid, if it makes hypercar faster than it belongs in the car. And talking about design, it will grow in, for me those car designs are okey, but compared to gt 3 they might seem bit behind, but it’s looks, subjective am I right.

[@TaysirDaiyaan]

Idc the F80 is ugly AF. W1 isn't ugly but P1> W1 no diff

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

“When has McLaren ever made a manual car?” Uhh, the F1.. you know, the one car that will be distinctly remembered?

[@Hamza_AlMaliki06]

The Ferrari F80 looks like what a modern Ferrari should look like.

[@CosmicOcean-jv4eu]

ugly and mute

[@hrthrhs]

No, we should be shaming such engine downsizing, which is only being done for futile environmental reasons (futile as so little of these hyper and sports cars will actually be produced to the point where if they had fuel guzzling V12s nothing would be affected). Otherwise, eventually all engines will be 4 cylinders, and we'll have lost the beautiful variety of engine layouts and types we had. And yes, we should continue to be annoyed at the reduction of manuals as they are really one of the best gearboxes for driver engagement. Or you can continue supporting the companies which are, time and time again, less interested in making cars for enthusiasts and more interested in making a car to win some award.

[@AndreasPetersen1]

People are so quick to hate on V6s like they're weak, but honestly, they’re some of the most versatile engines out there. They're compact, easy to work on, and some of them sound incredible. Not to mention, a well-tuned V6 can make some serious power, especially compared to the big, heavy V8s that people seem to think automatically mean ‘fast’. Funny how people will worship a GTR for its V6 but then turn around and hate on a Mustang for the same thing. Power’s not all about displacement

[@jb121391]

nawl bro F80 front is kinda ugly the rear looks better the but they blocky mesh isnt that sexy imo the chunky blocky doors make them look like tonka toy mad them its almost seems like they did a retrospective look the way the body of the car is squared off to each they own

[@Daniel-gi1cy]

Performance wise its obviously top teir, the problem is the SOUL of the car, if you own a car with soul or have been in one you know what im talking about, hearing a great v8 v10 or v12 sing will ALWAYS put a smile on your face, hearing a b58 or this engine just sounds like a toilet flushing or a vacuum, fast asf no doubt but no depth

[@Capricegirl_]

Ad someone who makes car designs and what goes into it, I wanna start off with the W1: Proportions are off, design doesn't feel as special or "hyper car-ish" enough for what it is. Love the interior, hate the rear wing design and mechanical aspect. Just feels gimmicky and out of place, I feel like it should be more integrated with the rest of the body. I feel like they should've taken more inspiration from the 765lt and P1 and added unique details to that to make it feel more special and follow the lineage plus their recent design language. Now onto the F80: At first glance, it is too blocky and edgy, straying too far from their design language to be ss recognizable as a Ferrari. The black stripe on the front is bold and references 80s ferrari models but it's our of place in modern era. Again, love the unique interior. I'd also would've wanted to see more references to the F40 like the rear wing or body lines. Rear end is okay, reminds me on the 812. Now the V6 I'm torn, Ferrari has always been known for their V12s, but I see why they'd put their Lemans engine into a road car.

[@B4R0N.]

Never liked the P1's looks, Absolutely love everything about the W1. Always loved LaFerrari, not too sure about the F80's looks or 1+1 seating arrangement. I am interested in all the chassis tech though.

[@trevorshark16]

Yeah the P1 never looked quite right. The W1 is pretty awesome though.

[@WONMARK]

i once spoke with a friend about this so I will just recycle what I said: hyper cars are about performance, luxury, looks and most importantly(imho) theatre. They celebrate what engineering, art and passion can achieve.

[@Mohammed-998-ISLAM]

The problem with them is that people have much higher expectations for the newer cars, and secondly the difference between the enzo and the la ferrari wasn't that big, but it made the car look much better (at least for me), but this sudden change of everything changed the identity of the cars, but 1200HP is really good, but people got mad over the V6, it's not a bad engine, but for this car it should be a V12 because that's what people want this days, if it's a v10 with 700 HP, it's better than a V6 with 1200HP, the original is much better, but the new cars aren't bad either

[@prophetjamz94]

I'm glad someone finally said it. The community, like a lot of the internet just regurgitates what the "popular opinion" is. The W1 is a great car.

[@zelay.mp4]

‏‪2:59‬‏ i thought it was common sense for people to understand that Ferrari puts race car engine's Into road legal hypercars/supercars!?!?!

[@eleazar5942]

So the la Ferraris engine was from where? What you just said is false, they use f1 inspired technology the LARGE MAJORITY of the time.

[@diegosiri3222]

Pepole saying, “it’s a V6, it doesn’t sound good”… dude, that car is faster and (maybe not louder but) better sounding than ANYTHING you will ever drive in your entire life

[@tylerplayzz8697]

1:19 The only car McLaren put a manual transmission in was their first road car, the F1

[@bru115]

I think the w1 looks better than the p1 but the laferrari definitely looks better than the f80

[@Neehar-24]

McLaren W1 is just a piece of art and the engine is pretty good tbh, same goes for the F80 but the design of the F80 still throws me off, and (hot take) i personally think that Hybrids are way WAY better than stand alone engines, because you get the instant torque of the batteries and you still got the engine to go upto the speeds and feed your ego (not applicable on the new BMW's, they are just boat and looks like some Chinese manufactured designed it)

[@Ihatethegrid]

This is why I watch your videos bro, unique opinions, no unwarranted hate, and low key funny, also I did actually grab a sandwich before the video started

[@dy7296]

This is what happens when a community goes mainstream

[@Stealthassin135]

I honestly felt like I was losing my mind. Ferrari managed to extract 900HP out of a damn V6 and pair it with electric motors for one of the most technologically advanced powertrains in modern motoring and all people have to say is "It's just a V6"

[@beni5149]

Yeah it's a good v6 and yeah it makes 900hp with the help of twin turbos. And yeah it's 1200hp total so it's good. But it's a hypercar, the thing that makes a hypercar cool is the engine and a v6 just isn't cool, maybe in a Supercar it can be accepted like the ford gt, but even in that case most people say the only thing they dislike about it is the v6 The v12 in the 812 competition makes 819hp You twin turbo that and you looking at 1200hp by law balling it (like the f12 from dde) from the engine by itself + the hybrid system and you are looking at 1500hp And not only Would people like it, it would sound good and be a true successor. Every Ferrari flagship hypercar has always been a v12, this car just doesn't do it. If im spending 2mil on a hypercar it needs to look and sound cool and more importantly it needs to be quick. Ferrari is missing one of the holy trinity to make a good hypercar.

[@beni5149]

And to add to the most important part. I want my HYPER car to be crazy and overtop in every way. Not fuel efficient and tame. That v6 represents the problem with modern cars, it kills the soul and the fun. I'm sure it's a great car and it will perform great but it's not the greatest that Ferrari could have done and that means it's not that HYPER as the LaFerrari was. The LaFerrari was the pinnacle, the best engine they had with the best aero and best electric they could do. The f80 feels like the most efficient and futuristic they could make the car feel, it's not their best engine and not the best aero and it definitely isn't the best hybrid they could do. 300hp hybrid system? Wtf is that? From a Tesla model 3? Hot garbage in absolutely every part, would definitely be a good supercar but 200% not a good hypercar.

[@HaydenAgnew]

A le mans winner engine is uncool ok

[@hexanick]

i think f80 its even better than the w1 cuz the f80 its the representation of the racing side of ferrari in a single car, made by the f1 and WEC engineers, with a authentic racing engine and systems, the black stipe its like a representation of the modern ferrari style (in my opinion) and the interior was made to make you feel that you're on a racing car but like a LMH, the idea was to make the best race car experience on a street car, and i think they did it succesfully. i cant think of a better sucesor for the laFerrari, la ferrari was like pure ferrari, and f80 is pure ferrari racing

[@ItsDan-y6f]

when the W1 came out, i admit, i didnt love it, but i also didnt hate it, but when the F80 came out i saw that car and i fell in love, i love the F80 sm and i hope ill be able to at least see 1 one day

[@idexpro8263]

It's always a cycle. People flamed Chris Bangle to hell when he was designing cars at BMW, but now his cars are getting glazed like crazy on tiktok.

[@paulocesacomeuseubutao6492]

People is missing the fact , F80 and W1 are more track toys than street cars like la ferrari and P1

[@SpaceGT_07]

2:56 deep down I knew this was it, based of the 499P LMH, and I am a huge fanboy of racing, that’s why I actually loved the F80, successor to the LaFerrari, continuing the F series of Ferrari, and based off an *actual race car they themselves made to compete in WEC*

[@Mentadeath]

The problem with the car community, as well as any other community online, is that it is RIDDLED with kids. Think about it, who has the time to spend their whole existence online other than them? They obviously outnumber us that those "v6? Ugh" comments are the proof.

[@zooble_games]

i personally go for looks, modern cars don't really make me feel as much as older ones even if they are more powerful

[@sf70hyt99]

People are clowning about the Ferrari’s V6 from a v12 AND thinking “because it has more cylinders its mor hp” BUT BRO THERES AN INLINE 4 THAT OUTPUTS 1400BHP+

[@gregc9344]

It's the sound that's the issue with this thing, a Ferrari should not be allowed to sound that horrendous.

[@vitoraugustocarlos3758]

Bro, you nailed it. One thing that I took a long time to do was to look at cars objectively, as in, if they do well what they were built to do. The F80'S design is subjective, not everyone's gona like it, I get that; but when I heard about the engine, I was shocked. A 3.0L V6 from a LeMans car!? That makes 900 horsepower alone?! That's 300 hp/L. Imagine your mom's 1.0L crapbox making 300 horsepower; as a Brazilian, I can't even dream of seeing cars with these numbers! And let's be honest, it's not the V6 itself that is a problem. The Nissan GTR overstayed its welcome and only had a 90 hp increase over 17 years; the 2017 Ford GT had a V6 (which I admit, I wasn't a fan of until I saw videos of it driving around the track); the AMG One has an F1 V6 which just recently got a new Nurburgring lap record; and my favorite V6 ever, the Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti, revving to 12000 rpm. V6s have their strong points too, you just gotta know how to use them. People really need to stop thinking that 0-60 is everything, that top speed is everything or that more cylinders is "more better" yadda yadda yadda. We've gotten to a point where 400 hp is child's play or laughed at, instead of analysing what the car can do.

[@tibhard]

The ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT THE F80 DOESN'T LOOKS LIKE A FERRARI THE SAME WAY THE ROMA LOOKS LIKE AN ASTON MARTIN.

[@SKYLINE500]

I loved essentially everything about the W1. I was admittedly unsure about the F80 due to the V6, but being reminded of the fact that said V6 was derrived from Ferrari's Le Mans hypercar, that uncertainty is out the window.

[@scryak]

ngl the f80 looks like a lego car but i fw it

[@Jeremiah-r3q]

It can honestly see that lol

[@itz_iper2317]

About the manual talk, i think theres a difference between OWNING a manual car, and KNOWING how to drive a manual If im looking for performance, i would be taking an automatic, or a semi, but knowing how to drive a manual car is just a primary need

[@lemonjuice6177]

This engine boasts the reliability of a Le Mans engine combined with the technology of an F1 car. It’s an absolute beast-the most advanced engine ever produced in a production car.

[@repook66]

i find it ironic how the same people saying "the car community is dying! we need to take a stand against anything electric in cars!" are the ones who are really killing the car community

[@aarizsiddiqui2640]

Idk if its just me but the F80 looks bad from the front , it looks like a lego car

[@titantitties]

I have lego cars, and it looks nothing like them.

[@ROO1KAT]

About the V6, I'm not hating on it, there is no doubt in my mind that it isn't an amazing engine, I mean it's making more power than the LaFerrari's V12, but I just find it strange that Ferrari didn't put a V12 in their newest flagship model, I feel like Ferrari is kind of known for their beautiful sounding Italian V12s, it just gives the cars such a presence, but then they go and put a V6 in it. I just feel like it would be better off with a V12, for the purpose it serves, because I doubt people are going to be buying the F80 to do 24 hrs of Nordschliefe with. I doubt that most people complaining about the V6 is saying that it's a bad engine, I feel like they are complaining for they same reason I explained above.

[@ragnaroar3640]

For me, the new Ferrari was like an overclocked i5 with the performance of an i9. However, you are paying the same amount as a normal i9, and it sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Nah, I would rather pass.

[@patricioestrella5663]

"Its not a manual" is crazy

[@collinhenderson9357]

I can understand why they would want to make the cars more futuristic looking but they could definitely do better, especially in the interior of the Ferrari F-80.