The Cards are COOKED... Cardinals Organization in Turmoil? | Katie Woo

[@bobbyr2972]

Dewitt III literally warned the fans if they don't show up things won't change. The entitlement is insane

[@chrisweidner4768]

This once vaunted franchise has become a massive disaster. The announced crowd has nothing to do with butts in the seat. There were like 10k fans there tops. Unathletic weak product will do that. Opposing pitchers generally sitting at 97,98, and ours at 88,89. Historically horrific RISP is indicative of a broken approach and culture. Team looks slow, weak and lost at the plate. Completely embarrassing to watch for this fan of 60 years. The misuse of Walker and cratering of Gorman and Nootbaar have devastated this team. The decision makers are embarrassing in their out of touch incompetence.

[@amysully6399]

They should bring in Dylan mulvaney drinking his Bud light as a bat boy.

[@chrisweidner4768]

@@amysully6399🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Humor is a beautiful thing. All the best. Looks like your Cubs are going to give you a lot of fun going down the stretch. Best of luck.

[@tacobellcall911]

​@@amysully6399Gotta make sure you say that everywhere

[@amysully6399]

@@chrisweidner4768 we're crap also but I sleep easier when the cardinals suck .

[@nobeardthepirate9172]

Hit the nail by calling out Gorman, noot, and walker.

[@positively_broad_st3780]

Last time Katie Woo was on here she was super positive that everything was going just fine for the Cardinals. That glass went from half full to half empty pretty quick...

[@carl5381]

she's the new Derrick Goold. He's carried water for the organization so long he's finally turned on them. She's taken the place of the chief resident bootlicker in the media. It's gross.

[@dannygibson2597]

As a STL native, she bugs me. She's clearly good at her job but she seems to revel in the Cardinals being bad. I don't remember the last interview but usually she's not positive at all. Maybe it's just her demeanor, idk. Frankly, I want my local media personalities to be at least a little bit biased and be passionate about the team, she's just like a robot doing a job that doesn't give a shit about the team at all.

[@dannygibson2597]

@@carl5381 I don't see that at all. Everytime I hear her talk it's pessimistic and her vibe is that she enjoys shitting on the team lol

[@jackiemoon5906]

@@dannygibson2597bro what? She was a super optimist going into this year after a putrid last season. She predicted victor scott would have 100 bases stolen on this show. I definitely do not believe she enjoys the team she covers being a dumpster fire. Who would?

[@TropicalTimInthePhilippines]

As a lifelong Brewer fan, I've envied the Cardinals' organisation from afar. Not sure what their internal issues are, but they definitely don't seem the same. As for Milwaukee, I can only hope their season isn't a replica of recent success.....short lived in the post-season. MLB needs the Cardinals though.

[@fajenthygia5760]

Bill DeWitt Jr. stepped down, and now we're being run by Bill DeWitt III, a man that used a beloved star's retirement ceremony to display his own painting skills.

[@justltn]

You can't be surprised a soon to be 37yr old Goldschmidt or a 33yr old Arenado are not performing like they once were. It happens to all the greats. My question is why do the Cardinals top prospects have issues transitioning to the majors? They keep sending up and down Walker.

[@dillonhatfield7724]

The Cards aren’t cheap, Mo is just shit at spending it. Nikolas makes like $17M/year. The entire staff is paid like a top 8 unit and it’s closer to bottom 8. Arenado and Goldy get paid like top 20 players snd aren’t even top 50/100. You could give Mo $50M more next year and he’d just extend Goldy and Lynn

[@jimstocker6135]

This. The Cardinals don't have a money problem. They have a spending problem. Mo has basically been an absolute failure in FA his entire career.

[@ianshort2935]

All those are hindsight contracts. They looked good when they signed and half of them fell off a cliff.

[@jimstocker6135]

@ianshort2935 a good front office has foresight to avoid those cliff drops. Nobody is looking for perfection, but when you miss on basically every single FA contract you're the problem.

[@dillonhatfield7724]

@@ianshort2935 Even if our staff was pitching at their best they woudlnt be worth their combine contract

[@richardbalducci4490]

There it is.

[@Jeff76767]

Cardinals ownership is completely taking advantage of a loyal fanbase. Disgusting.

[@bobbyr2972]

Right. All they focus on is nostalgia and former players. I'm so tired of hearing about it

[@brianholthouse1426]

Welcome to life as an A's fan.

[@chadparnell4981]

Sorry gents! Best insight to the mlb! Been listening to the podcast lately and haven’t been on the tube, keep bringing it

[@connellanderson7877]

This nightmare is what happens when an organization refuses a teardown / rebuild. Now what you have is a bunch of young players in your organization that are behind schedule. Just think you have young players in the organization that could have benefited from playing at the major league level this year and last year. I say this because they're losing anyway. There is a wrong way to losing and there's a right way to losing. At least losing with a tear down, the fan base can understand that concept. But losing with a bunch of washed up veterans make no sense at all. The only outlook for the Cardinals organization is a complete teardown and rebuild. Since this organization does not like to spend money, this is the only reasonable solution.

[@davidcassity6593]

No, they stripped the minors of coaches. Katie woo made a recent article that says the quiet part out loud. The players we trade then develop because they have coaching. They told us a bunch of lies

[@jeffdickson125]

She is so knowledgeable and well spoken. I always enjoy her segments. Gorgeous too, which doesn't hurt either

[@bassface513]

We all looked at this roster and rotation before the season started and expected this, really not sure what the suprise is here.

[@mirrorblue100]

Want to fill those stadium seats? Beat the Cubs. Win the division and league. Get in the World Series again and win the damn thing.

[@bryanmachin3738]

I think Helsley's blown save at Wrigley on August 1 seemed to send them into a tailspin, and then the lack of offense came back--the way it was early in the season. The Cincy series was just brutal offensively. But it's conceivable that if Lynn came back and Goldy and others started hitting again, they could finish above .500. Nothing to write home about, but also not the disaster of last year. Also remember how many teams have a worse record, AND have worse records over and over!

[@gordoncalbreath430]

@@bryanmachin3738 It is true that many teams are even worse. However, our concern should be how far this organization has fallen from their rich heritage. We’ve had long spells before of weak teams and losing. But this is different. We have an ownership and a front office that has destroyed the farm system. Without changes at the top it’s only going to get worse and may end Cardinals baseball as we know it.

[@bryanmachin3738]

@@gordoncalbreath430 I have to admit I don't know that much about the owners. But I remember as a kid them having lousing teams for a decade (70s), and another virtual decade (88-95; 97-99), but I don't know if this all that much worse. That kid they brought up to pitch a week or so looked pretty good, but I don't know if that's any indication of the farm system generally.

[@davidsiebert5860]

This pretty much says it all. The players are underperforming as a group and as an individual. The team plays to the level of their opponents. When playing the Pirates the cards made multiple errors per game. The fans can feel the lack of confidence and frustration from the players. Sad.

[@bmoody4191-fl3qe]

I am a life long Cardinals fans and now live a few hours from St. Louis. I will be in town next week and have a chance for cheap tickets vs. the Padres and I can't believe I have no interest in attending the game. This is where my interest level is right now. I am visiting friends and we decided to do something else. Before this year I would have never imaged skipping a chance for a game while in town, and I blame ownership and the front office. Cardinals fans have been talked down to by John Mozeliak for almost 20 years, and the owner and his family worry more about their portfolio of properties than taking care of the franchise that is my favorite team in my favorite sport.

[@jasoncole7531]

I have always admired the cardinals from afar they have a tradition and history that a lot of teams cannot match hopefully they are going through hard times like any franchise goes through because your not going to be good every year with the cardinals fans as passionate as they are they will not put up with losing for long something is going to happen with the cardinals as far as changes go whether it the general manager or somewhere in owership

[@rickgarske4490]

Reminds me of the Cubs but they are drawing on the North side. Been to 2 cubs cards this year at Busch and crowd was disappointing

[@slundgr]

What is the locker room atmosphere in the Cardinals locker room? Is it toxic? Has Marmol lost the locker room? I saw enough of Arenado in Colorado to know he's not that pleasant to be around when things are not going well for the team or himself.

[@dennishaas4745]

Lifelong Cardinal fans know when leadership doesn't know their rear from deep centerfield and sending a message to Bill DeWitt !

[@Elipsis150]

Bill DeWitt III, on a recent interview, literally laughed at the idea of fans not showing up to games as a way to "send a message to onwership". He literally laughed at that.

[@gordoncalbreath430]

@@Elipsis150 Wow! I didn’t know that. Dewitt Jr already showed his arrogant back side during Winter Warmup before last when fielding a question of whether they would change their approach in light of their recent lack of success (and that was before 2023 season and this year!). Jr responded why wouldn’t change things when we draw over 3 million fans to the ballpark every year. What a jerk statement to make before the public. So I guess I’m not surprised by his son’s arrogance. How ungrateful they are for their loyal fan base.

[@dennishaas4745]

@@Elipsis150 Yes, I saw the latest with Frank Cusamano. DeWitt III better be glad he has a rich Dad!

[@LockedOnCardinalsMLB]

AJs reaction is what fans are all doing as well… hence the frustration with fans

[@dougwitte765]

Thanks all of you for giving up on our Cardinals! Never give up util it's done. Small crowds are inevitable any team. No team can hold the level they have forever. Support the team no matter what. Those attending are true fans, not joy riders. Aging sluggers? What a joke! Why not appeal to the positive .They are a great team in baseball history. Yes our team is not what they expected, but you don't dump on your team. Thanks for nothing on your comments. These guys are human and will have down time.

[@donttreadonme8831]

Ownership thanks you for your response.

[@markhunter6364]

Went to Busch Sunday vs the Dodgers and saw about as many Dodgers jerseys as Cards gear, first time I’ve ever seen that. And if I’m being completely honest we went to see Shohei (plus I got to see Kershaw pitch)

[@donttreadonme8831]

Thanks asshole for feeding into this product and prolonging it.

[@mitchellsharp5301]

This entire conversation completely explains the state of the STL Cardinals. A bunch of national guys asking, what are the Cardinals doing??? It is a great question. What is this organization doing?

[@naciremasti]

There should be a way to DFA the president of baseball operations John Mozeliak. His tenure has been a detriment to the team since the end of the 2013 season.

[@gordoncalbreath430]

@@naciremasti 100% right!

[@wendallmcgee5480]

Not turning out prospects like they once were

[@chrischar9428]

They are. But they traded them

[@22schwerb]

I'm not showing up as a fan of the Cardinals but it's not because of the playoffs. It's because of the front office and ownership. It's a statement to them

[@Drollpanther]

Ownership and FO get what they deserve. Still too many people giving them their money. Stop going to the games

[@richrauch]

Payroll is not the problem. Milwaukee spends $60 million dollars less than STL every year. The problem is the BASEBALL OPERATIONS ARE MEDIOCRE and your President of Baseball Operations, John Mozeliak has no idea what he's doing.

[@davidclark2034]

Leadership, it's not the players. it couldn't be any more evident.

[@fajenthygia5760]

We will never recover while Bill DeWitt III is in control.

[@jz1340]

In January 2024, MLB Trade Rumors reported that the St. Louis Cardinals' TV revenue for 2023 was around $73 million. Owner Bill DeWitt won't be covering the shortfall from Sinclair's bankruptcy.

[@zendoargos4988]

You can't compete for World Series in today's game shopping in the discount bin. Matt Carpenter was the team's biggest offensive signing in the offseason...let me say that again...MATT CARPENTER!!!!!! Goldy and Arenado have had really rough years, but the team did NOTHING to help them and traded away Tyler O'Neil who might have been able to help them as well as Tommy Edman who could have been an impact bat for them late in the season. Last offseason the team needed starting pitching and they signed Lynn and Gibson almost immediately. They have both been okay, but neither is a game changer and neither would give you a lot of confidence if the team somehow made the playoffs. Also, by signing them so early, the team was not in a position to move on any of the other available starters either via trade or free agency. The Sonny Gray signing was great, but ideally it would have been one of two big signings for the team. Instead of putting together a rotation with a solid 1-2, the 2024 Cardinals have a #1 (Gray), 2 #5 guys (Gibson, Lynn), a #3 (Fedde), and a guy that shouldn't be starting in the majors at this point (Mikolas). Don't even get me started on Steven Matz who is in year 3 of a 4 year $44 million contract and so far he has made a total of 33 starts for the Cardinals and has a 10-12 record with a 4.58 ERA. That would be terrible for 1 season and he has only managed to accumulate those number in 3 years. A pitcher that was supposed to be a key part of the Cardinals' rotation during his contract has made just 46 appearances (13 in relief...not great for a guy making starter money) and has thrown just 180 innings. I get that guys get hurt, but he has been hurt more than he has been healthy. Nolan Gorman should have been sent down to rookie ball...not AAA with the way he's been struggling. Brandon Crawford was a bad signing for both him and the team (I wish him well). If the Dewitt family doesn't want to spend big money on the team, they need to restructure the team like Tampa Bay to develop wave after wave of insanely talented young players that can put a competitive team on the field before they move on to sign elsewhere (or get traded for more prospects). It says a lot that the Cardinals set an unfortunate attendance record for the current stadium by having the fewest ever paid. The team is still 6th in the league in overall attendance, ahead of multiple teams that sit much higher in the standings right now. Cardinals fans are loyal. We are used to winning. We want to win. We expect to win. If you accept losing (either actively or passively) you don't belong in the franchise. It feels like the team needs a shakeup. Mozeliak might plan to step down after 2025, but that might not be soon enough. Marmol might have signed an extension, but that means nothing in the grand scheme of things. New blood is needed in leadership and if it doesn't come soon it will mean that it is the owners that have accepted losing and that would be truly unfortunate.

[@christopherduncan4033]

You have to the mix of vets and youth. The Redbirds don't spend in FA. They never have. It's probably time for the Brain Trusts to fully embrace the player development route of the Tampa Bay Rays. In this day and age with all the data and metrics, + they're not big spenders.

[@jayboek2854]

Cards franchise has been on a slow decline for years. Reminds me of 1990's. And new ownership turned it around. Which is needed now once again. Blame Mo all u want but the majority of the blame has to be on DeWitte. Dude is cheap. Always has been. What do u want Mo to do with no $ to spend? And hurts there is never any hitters come from minors.

[@SATMO2930]

Brewers spend far less and kick our butt year after year lately. The Cubs are spending 50 million more than we are and are currently dead last in the Central like we were last year.

[@chrischar9428]

It's not cheap dude it's poorly spent

[@donttreadonme8831]

And far more young hitter success than young pitcher. Name the last star starting pitcher the Cards developed? And NO Jack Flaherty wasn't a star.

[@slundgr]

If you think it's tough being a Cardinals fan, try being a Rockies fan.

[@christopherduncan4033]

Or a Marlins Fan! Or a Nationals Fan. Or an Angels Fan.

[@chrisparr9230]

Lots of examples of players underperforming with the Cards but blooming when they go to another club. Also, where’s Yadi? These two things point to culture problems, and that’s a leadership problem.

[@paganguy77]

Honestly, signing Marmol to a 2 year extension BEFORE the season, AFTER the worst season in ages and ages, serves as an insight into the dysfunction of this team.

[@kenbo1512]

Owner Bill DeWitt is a billionaire who doesn’t live far from me in the Cincinnati area. I can go over to his house and straighten him out about the Cardinals, a team I’ve loved and followed since the early 70s. The fish stinks from the head down.

[@SLURM187]

STL is a real fair weather town after all.

[@southside1205]

Anyone paying attention knew this team was shit before the season started. Only a matter of time before the wheels fell off.

[@STLBLUES100]

So shit is around 500 or at 500? Strange. I'm pretty sure shit is more the White Sox, Marlins, and Rockies. Maybe mediocre is more the right word to use than shit?

[@southside1205]

No, they are shit. This team is not built to be a playoff team. They will be in the same place as the White Sox and Marlins when the season ends, at home watching the playoffs on tv. ​@STLBLUES100

[@STLBLUES100]

@southside1205 If true, Braves and Orioles must be shit too. Because the Cardinals beat them in the season series.

[@southside1205]

@@STLBLUES100 that doesn't even make sense. A mediocre team makes it to the playoffs. You do realize there are 162 games in a season, nearly half the league goes to the playoffs. The fact that Mo and Oli can't spend $180 million dollars and build a mediocre team shows how incompetent they are. This is a shitty team. They are at the bottom in nearly all offensive and defensive stats in the NL. Get of youtube Mo and do your damn job.

[@TylerRice-e7g]

Turner Ward has to be looked at. Several stellar bats in recent years from the minors or other teams come to StL and tank. Or they leave StL and get stellar under new coaching...

[@gordoncalbreath430]

I love Katie Woo but I can’t help but feel she’s missing the big picture. The Cardinals organization has been in decline for at least the last decade. Here’s the deal. Up until a couple years ago Mozeliak and the ownership assured the fan base before every season that we had a team they believed could win it all. That tune has changed. Now it’s let’s win the Central and see how it goes. They can’t even do that anymore. I’m sick of hearing about Mozeliak having such a great track record. It’s not about not spending enough money, it’s that the front office consistently spends it poorly. This organization used to produce good players from the minor league system but they haven’t produced one star since Pujols and Molina over 20 years ago. This hasn’t been and won’t be an organization that spends the outrageous contracts on guys like Ohtani which means we need a strong farm system. They don’t develop their talent well nor do they assess talent well. The front office needs a complete overhaul. The most telling thing for me was listening to DeWitt Jr being asked two winter warmups ago whether they would change their approach. With a smirk on his face he said why would we change, we’re drawing over 3 million fans a year. This year he’s commented that fans want them to spend more money but if nobody shows up they won’t have the money to spend. Talk about spitting in the fan base’s face! He’s an idiot. And he has stuck by Mozeliak like he can do no wrong. This is one fan who won’t be paying big money to watch a crap team in 2025. And it’s killing me because I love Cardinals baseball.

[@tonyc8752]

She’s a mouth piece for the Cardinals

[@gordoncalbreath430]

@@tonyc8752 I kind of suspected that but I guess I was trying to give Woo the benefit of the doubt. Her defense of why they brought Walker up and sent him back down doesn’t set right with me. I think the Cardinals are ruining Walker, and maybe already have to the point he may never be right. It’s sad. This organization’s handling of young potential talent is awful.

[@Americanexpatincebu]

Katie is very nice looking!

[@mikekeeler6362]

Said this before the start of the season they would have another losing record

[@Bigbirdreese1600]

Me too...😂😂

[@PaulWells-g6k]

They made way more bad moves than good in a span starting in the mid teens. We are lucky its lasted this long as fans but we all saw the bandaid method wasnt going to win us a ship.

[@somestupidname3266]

Bringing in Bloom to replace Mo is like divorcing your wife because she cheated on you and then marrying a prostitute. Bloom did in Boston exactly what Mo has done in St. Louis. He just was not as good at it. Hire Kim Ng and just get out of her way.

[@gordoncalbreath430]

@@somestupidname3266 I laughed out loud when I read your comment. Spot on!

[@STLBLUES100]

Not really. If you think about it Bloom wasn't given a fair chance in Boston. Did you know ownership told him to cut payroll and trade Mookie Betts? How does that help Bloom be successful if he's told to cut payroll and trade your best player? I'd love to know. Could he have gotten more back in return for Betts, though? Probably, yes. But ownership is more to blame than Bloom. They also made the ALCS under Bloom, too.

[@charlesvalentine9638]

2nd best Woo in baseball community?

[@Lifer-m7s]

What kind of questions are these. Just look at the fall off from his ten year. We won in 2014 bc this guy was left a talented team, farm system and appropriate coaches, mangers etc. This is a team that was destroyed from within, ie. FO

[@Howard2006]

Fans do not want to come out to a team that is losing! Correct, a little bit of everything! Goldschmidt and to a lesser extent Arenado have not done what they have done in the past. They wanted Walker to hit against lefthander pitchers only. That does not seem a good idea.

[@rustyshackleford6637]

So basically, the Walker decision (the callup and the demotion) was not about Walker... it was about the team looking for offense. Well tell me what the last 1.5 years of Walker's handling been about? You're telling me they just threw aside whatever the regimen had been for him, so they could try and get a quick boost in team offense. This organization is completely lost and cannot get out of it's own way.

[@riffmaster1078]

I would also like to add.. Spending money on pitchers who's average age is 35 years old.

[@ka-pop2243]

No clear ace starter, iffy bullpen, terrible base running, horrible offensive output with RISP, using an $85 mil star catcher mostly as a DH - how are we NOT supposed to be disappointed and frustrated? I at least hope to see Winn get ROY. But I never, repeat, NEVER want to see Goldschmidt in a Cardinals uniform again. Worst StL 1B since Tino 4-3-nez.

[@randyburris9044]

Fans have been screaming at the top of their lungs to fire Ipad Ollie...and nothing...plus how they treated Shildt like dirt

[@ScottG91]

Yep Katie's right. Expect the cardinals to do cardinal things in the offseason. Let's find some 35+ year olds with a above 4 era, but hey they can eat innings thats what matters most to the front office.

[@ronaldabrams7222]

do not forget the injured pitchers that the Cards acquire in the offseason.

[@dennissmith5042]

Its over this year

[@heffiagametech8094]

The whole of the cardinals organisation needs be looked at. Mo should be gone. Ollie should be gone.

[@mikekeeler6362]

In ballpark village is dead during the winter time

[@davidsiebert5860]

Did Dewitt dump to much of the Cardinals money into the money pit of ballpark village. Now has a money pit with less revenue.

[@HHSGDFootballJPD]

​@davidsiebert5860 But more profit...because I don't believe ballpark village money has to be shared with the union and his fellow owners (*cough* Fisher and Reinsdorf *cough*)

[@donttreadonme8831]

Good job Katie but you say "They went out and got the pitching they needed" Yah, apparently not. When they haven't developed a star SP in years it makes them go get 2 washed pitchers to plug in as #4 & #5 at 25M combined vs 1 SP at 25M and a developed young SP. This franchise has been slowly desroyed and they arent finished yet. Thanks Dewitt and Mo.

[@BillDownton]

This team has not played or hit since all star Payroll is top 12 but look at teams below that have better records

[@michaelallen1154]

Keep Sonny, dump Goldy and 'Nado and Gorman. Sign Trevor Bauer then go find those mediocre/average hitters who don't streak, and look for ones who've had a slight increase in their offensive output in the post season. Throw all your money at pitchers and fill in the roster with non-streaking hitters.

[@GaryM-cy3jf]

Is there something that the Dewitt family knows that the Cardinals fans don't. Is there a way ownership is making money that we don't know about. Something is way off with how the Dewitt family has handled the whole situation in St. Louis. I have my opinion on it, but I'm better off keeping it to myself.

[@vivalavivarium]

1. ballpark village is not the greatest place in saint louis, anyone who lives here will know what I am talking about 2. if dewitt spent money and we still sucked, I would at least feel appreciated as a fan that they tried and would attend more than two games this year. which btw, I have been to ballpark village more than that this year

[@drewstice992]

St. Louis cardinals are heading to the World Series

[@chrischar9428]

Of what. Poker

[@josephkelly1909]

2022 Attendance #2 in MLB 2023 #4 2024 #6 Says all you need to know

[@KevinHuffman-m6h]

4:15 In - Yeah, made a LOT OF SENSE for Marmol to get an extension BEFORE THE SEASON after their worst season record-wise in 30 Years!!!!

[@e7card1]

Marmol is why the team is lethargic. Ever seen a signal flashed from the dugout?

[@boschlosser10]

He’s trash

[@tonyc8752]

She’s a front office shill mouthpiece

[@slocumb1270]

You gotta win 17 straight games to make the playoffs and be slected Manager of the Year to be fired in St Louis.

[@tonyc8752]

@@slocumb1270 Correct. To be fired as GM: You need to win 6 Division Titles in 8 years, make 4 NLCS appearances, win 2 NL pennants and be just 12 months removed from a World Series Title. (Jocketty) To be fired as manager: You need to have 7 consecutive winning seasons, appear in 3 NLCS, win a pennant and 3 division titles, while winning the 2nd most games of any manager in baseball during that time period. (Matheny) Or, as you mentioned, you can have four straight winning seasons, make the playoffs in all 3 full seasons you manage, average 91 wins per season, win an NL record 17 games in a row, win MOY, and then you'll get fired. (Shildt) But Mo and Oli are untouchable apparently.

[@jimg7318]

After watching the Cards since 1959 I can say that I am done with them until a new owner that wants to win takes over. DeWitt has been in baseball for 3/4 of a century and has seen a lot of changes. It’s a business but it’s one that he always wanted to win at. I now feel after looking into the last 3 or 4 years that he is ready to sell. Neither he or his family need the Cardinals to survive. He will make well over a billion dollars on sale day. I doubt that DeWitt lll could handle the organization so I truly believe the DeWitts will be gone within 2 years if not sooner.

[@josephkelly1909]

2022 #2 in MLB attendance 2023 #4 2024 #6 Says it all I think without change of manager and GM that delta gets parabolic.

[@willieboy7597]

Remove the entire organization out of MLB

[@robertradermecher4083]

Great job Katie Woo,nailed it.

[@Bigbirdreese1600]

They were cooked in April . I knew they didn't have a ball club who could go deep into the post season . As a fan that's all you want. Don't expect much in 25 either.. This organization needs a complete overhaul.. If you don't compete ,put a good product on the field the Dewitts needs to sell the team.. Mo should step down. Stop signing these 35 +++ old players. Katie they didn't get the pitching staff they needed .😂❤😂❤

[@JM-rf3lv]

Spending more is not the only answer. They are terribly managed and coached. Players are miserable and don’t buy into Marmol and the coaches approach. As a fan it’s boring

[@JasonWoods-d1v]

First off fire the manager. The manager is out of sink. Fire his whole staff. I hate to say this but the whole coaching staff is losers. We need credible coaches. What does it say about the organization when your pitching coach Maddux steps down to spend more time with his family and immediately goes to work for the rangers. The whole management team is a cancer!

[@mikekeeler6362]

Too many outfielders

[@christopherduncan4033]

Last year it was to many infielders....What is going on....

[@JeffreyOConnell-g4x]

Too much turnover of the roster. Loyal fans are sick of seeing their favorite players shipped out every year.

[@ScottyBraun-FoulTerritory]

Katie is a star! Awesome insight here

[@davidclark2034]

Hitting coach should have been fired long ago. Goldschmidt can't hit anything outside for some reason.

[@Hauntworld]

Honestly the owner is one of the richest owners in baseball but he operates the team as a business. He reminds me of the Cincy Bengals owners. They've gone from popular to very unpopular really quick. It might be time to move the team to a new owner with a billionaire ego... using that money to WIN! The ownership is cheap and they refuse to spend money to correct their mistakes. If you're not going to spend your way out of this mess you have a second option trade your farm system out to replace it but they've made so many mistakes there as well. The Cardinals should embrace the FULL REBUILD with new GM... but they won't out of fear they'll destroy the fan base. So I see no other option than to go all in on a combination of trades and spending increase. They need to stop with the idea of QUANITY over QUALITY. Instead of having five deadbeat pitchers spend all the money on two real aces, one end of free agency pitcher and two from the minors. But no go all in with five below or way below average vets. Makes no sense.

[@waltpuryear2503]

"...they got the pitching staff they needed..." to fool the fans into thinking they had a good pitching staff. BS One losing season in x years is means NOTHING to almost any team. Sheesh

[@majicman999]

Katie touched on Mo and how he's taken heat, but I wish she would've touched on what the fans really want more. Change up top is needed. Yes, we want a winning product but none of that happens without a complete shift in the organizational mindset. Mo and company had a hell of a run, but they just haven't adapted to changing times within the game.

[@davidshowmaker4408]

DeWitt, Mo and Marmol have ruined this team!

[@CristopherSmith-zr7uh]

Katie Woooo!!

[@appoll0912]

Marmol and his whole staff should have been fired last year along with mozeloc especially when the manager he got rid of so he could give Marmol the job is out west winning. They’ve ran the franchise into the ground. Fire them bring back a real baseball coach skip belongs in the dugout coaching.

[@bryanmachin3738]

Wow, I wish I could watch this video and not have to wait for coup plotters to finish their advertisements before it starts!

[@Brandonmichaelc]

These aren't baseball guys with Oli and Mo show, they are sabermetrics nerds saving Dewitt's bottom line living off of teams of the past... They have a lot of talent and these guys on the team are not used correctly. Donovan should be leading off with Winn batting second and Burely or Goldie batting third with Arenado batting 5th and Contreras 6th. 7 8 9 can be whatever. Sianas should be back if he is healthy. Noot batting 4th against right handed pitching bumoing everyone back. Donovan and Winn need to start the game 1 2 either way. Oli sucks. Mo is worse. We haven't been close to winning a WS aince 2013 and that was the leftover teams of LaRussa without Pujols which Mo failed to negotiate a contract in 2010 to lock him up before Free Agency. Albert would have performed and not got injured in St. Louis.

[@prestonbucher18]

This should be a CLEAR message to the DeWitt’s and Mozeliak…..The Cardinals fans lined up 3 million+ strong for a LOOOOONG time….and put a shit ton of money into the pockets of ownership and they took that for granted. As a lifer, I’m not giving another cent to the DeWitt’s until the reinvest into the product on the field…

[@enoughisenough3710]

The club has been in a slow 10 year decline and the fans have JUST NOW started to not show up. No playoffs in 16, 17, and 18, a 'run' to the NLCS in 19 then not crap since - last year's debacle and this year is a shit show from top to bottom.

[@ronaldabrams7222]

Way back when , maybe even in 2019, the Cards organization had a goal to be the best team in baseball and to win the world series. The last 4 years the goal has been to sneak into the playoffs as the 3rd wild card and then hope something great will happen. Mo keeps acquiring .180 hitters and losing record pitchers.

[@e7card1]

Yep, and the cook, not Chef, is Mo, this is all on him!

[@klydon1291]

AJ, the Cardinals lack of payroll isn't their main issue. They spend money stupidly. Look at how expensive their rotation is for what they are getting out of it. The one cheap starter they have (Pallante) they can't wait to shove back in the bullpen (where he is terrible) when Matz or Lynn come back. The biggest issue the Cardinals have is they don't develop players worth a lick anymore and too many players get traded to other organizations and perform much better than when they were with the Cardinals. Look at Dylan Carlson and what he has done since going to the Rays. When was the last time the Cardinals developed a good starting pitcher that wasn't hurt all the time and actually stayed with the club. The Cardinal organization has stayed pat on how they do things for a very long time. The entire organization needs a shake up and new faces/fresh ideas. Bill JR is also going to be 84 by the end of the month. He needs to either commit to an organizational shakeup (Bye Mo being the biggest move now) or sell the time to a new owner that is much like he was when he bought the club in his mid 50's and hungry to make the Cardinal organization one of the best in baseball.

[@marktucker1586]

Why go see a hot mess. Mo has laid a brick 2 years in a row. This once historic franchise is now the laugh of MLB. Nothing will change until the turnstiles grow cold. I wouldn't spend money to watch this product.

[@carl5381]

Katie carries water for the Cardinals so for her to be bleak is saying A LOT. BTW Waino wasn't home grown. He was acquired via trade with Atl for JD Drew. Cardinals don't home grow a lot of pitchers, especially starters. Oh and Katie, "it's kinda hard to picture this organization without Mo". No, no it's not. Not at all.

[@TheCoxMan]

As long as Dewitt is happy nothing will change. Dewitt is a HUGE part of the problem.

[@mikekeeler6362]

Go Brewers

[@djdanner123]

The Cardinals SUCK! Thanks Mo, DeWitt, Marmol etc.

[@georgesouthwick7000]

Back in June, I warned everyone that this Cardinals team was a lot more like what we saw in April than the one we saw in May and June. I sincerely wish I had been wrong.

[@ericjanke2961]

We got Wainwright from the Braves organization

[@bryanmachin3738]

I wonder if this game tonight means anything to these people--or to the fans. Maybe not.

[@robertradermecher4083]

Cards are a giant cluster F!

[@KevinHuffman-m6h]

9:45 In - Don't feel bad for Mo - limit on $.......He USED IT WRONG!!!!!

[@pasha21k]

They are cooked cuz they hired Bloom!

[@bradschmittling8118]

Cards need to draft Pitching

[@jayboek2854]

How about ever developing a minor hitter who is a star. About every team can do this every once Ina while yet not the cards.