The Cars Our Engineers Loved and Hated in 2017 | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports

It's our end of the year wrap up, and we discuss our most (and least) favorite cars that we tested this year at our track. We also talk about what we're most looking forward to from the auto industry in 2018.
SHOW NOTES
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1:01 - Mike Quincy's favorite car of 2017
3:07 - Gabe's favorite car of 2017
4:35 - Jake's favorite car of 2017
6:12 - Jen's favorite car of 2017
7:57 - Jake's least favorite car of 2017
9:55 - Gabe's least favorite car of 2017
12:00 - Mike Quincy's least favorite car of 2017
13:53 - Jen's least favorite car of 2017
15:50 - What we're looking forward to in 2018
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[@mwj9080]

I think Jennifer does the best job at moderating. She should be the one who moderates talking cars for now on. Congratulations on another year of excellence!

[@ddavis5373]

She's a fine moderator, but her comments on the Tiguan were useless. She liked it because it can carry stuff? Lots of small SUVs can carry stuff. How does it drive? How does it compare to the CX5? Be helpful. I know this is not Car & Driver, but she should understand a little more about what a car review is supposed to be..

[@BadlndsBob]

There are too many different people in Talking Cars episode to episode. I like Gabe best, he states his point and is clear about it. I might not agree with everything he says, but, I always get the point. He is very objective and knowledgeable. He doesn't whine. It is a great series, though.

[@andrewmuscarella2934]

Nice video, like seeing what testers like and dislike personally. Glad you are producing more Talking Cars videos.

[@blurglide]

CR: will you start estimating total cost of ownership? I don't see many 12+ year old VWs and Audis on the road anymore. Also, when measuring reliability, will you weight something that leaves you stranded as much more important than, say, the infotainment system locking up or a piece of trim falling off? One more thing- for cars out of warranty, reliability overall should allow your readers to estimate how likely they are to be left stranded weighted by how much it costs to fix something.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Splendid suggestions.

[@ThoughtMachine1]

Asking WAAAY too much of these morons.

[@stevewise1656]

blurglide great point! This was CR’s most bizarre show. VW!?

[@noonions4138]

You don't see many 12+ year old European cars of any make on the road anymore. Cost of ownership indeed.

[@williambabe3032]

blurglide i

[@buzman1985]

Hoping for a great 2018 filled with tons of episodes.

[@DanielZajic]

Enjoyed this episode, maybe especially the criticism. Thanks for fighting the never ending battle between consumer education and deceptive marketing. I really should pay for a membership, this content is so valuable.

[@longwood2001]

Great video CR team. I always enjoy watching these episodes. Looking forward to seeing more in 2018.

[@LP-sp4sf]

Great show! What a treat to have weekly episodes!

[@jasonhamilton2619]

I love Jen serving as lead and moderator! Furthermore I have enjoyed the addition of the beverage on the table. It grounds the conversation yet draws me in closer. Thanks to each of you for the great job.

[@InternetDude]

The Compass is shit 11 years later. I bought one of the first in 2006, it was a POS and I was glad to trade it in. I can’t believe it’s still shitty this many years later.

[@rightlanehog3151]

That's the very definition of Chrysler/FCA consistency.

[@williamburbank281]

One of the worst engineered vehicles ever! Had a gf that had an '08. Just checking the oil and getting the dipstick back in the tube was an adventure...total crap!

[@troymccleery5400]

C-HR is the poster child of automakers open assault on visibility. First rear windows, now side windows. The Japanese/Korean automakers started it, U.S. propagated it. Germany was a hold out, but now they are caving in as well. Hopefully this will change soon. :-(

[@rightlanehog3151]

Right on! A class action lawsuit might do the trick.

[@DanielZajic]

Will be interesting to see where styling heads as we get more and more driving aids (cameras, radar, self-driving, etc). Aerodynamics lead to worse visibility, but other tech (stronger glass, carbon fiber) can make it better.

[@oregonian1966]

Pretty soon no windows just cameras and viewing screens I imagine.

[@JDMHaze]

Troy McCleery lol Exactly with that design they should have Blindspot monitoring standard, however the good thing is though safety features on Toyotas are normally pretty cheap

[@Wasabi9111]

I loved the Pacifica hybrid as well. The extra weight of the battery, the silence of the electric motor and the easy to use Uconnect make this hybrid a true bargain luxury car, especially considering the price after the tax rebate. Test drove the rx350, qx60, xc90 and thought the Pacifica hybrid was better than all of them. Only the q7 was better, but that easily cost 50% more.

[@crumdoggy]

Had CR spec'ed the BMW 5 Series with the 6 or 8 cylinder and some other options it would have been a much different car than the entry level 530 you purchased.

[@bjs2022]

Congratulations on the very good sound which I suspect was from the body mikes, not the table mikes. It’s good to have the option and the backup.

[@firmsoil]

After the sad demise of Click & Clack's iconic and genius CarTalk, Talking Cars with CR Weekly offers a fresh ray of hope. For me Talking Cars per se is sufficient enough to renew my annual CR Subscription. NPR, are you listening?

[@Mrbfgray]

Excellent critiques.

[@MrEnergyCzar]

Great insights. You guys have a dream job...

[@asternSF]

FINALLY! The microphones have a cable plugged into them! Even if they're a stage prop, at least it looks right

[@rightlanehog3151]

Thanks to Jennifer for focusing again on Toyota's inept design indulgence with the C-HR . There ought to be a minimum visibility standard to allow cars to be sold. The awful sight lines of the C-HR will cause completely unnecessary crashes and suffering. Akio, send that one back to the drawing board ASAP.

[@anthropology4everyone622]

Let's hope the IIHS adopts visibility standards because the NHTSA is too lame to even think about it.

[@JDMHaze]

Right Lane Hog I agree,

[@sergevivier2023]

Right lane hog, there is no minimum standard for headlight, Most cars fail IIHS headlight standard.

[@TMM6900]

i felt like modern cars have very bad sight line. just not big enough compare to cars in 2005

[@rightlanehog3151]

That's a good point but you can't see out of the C-HR in the middle of the day!

[@inane5020]

Goes to show. ..follow your instincts when choosing your vehicle. Heck it doesn't even matter what they say. What matters most is everybody's happy when the driver is HAPPY.

[@sharvan456]

I like Mike Quincy's comment about the Model 3 :)

[@tjs114]

I completely agree regarding the Toyota Hydrogen car. And even in California, there are very few Hydrogen fueling stations outside of the Los Angeles Basin.

[@roguedogx]

I'm so glad the Pacifica is as good as it is. I've been wanting to like an FCA product for a long time and this one finally pulled it off. I have also been hearing good things about the build quality and reliability, but you'll be able to tell me if that's accurate a year or two from now. I do take one issue with what you said, I think the alfa guilia is slightly better, but that Pacifica would definitely be a close second.

[@reserva120]

miss Tom's despondent an yet somehow droll delivery ....

[@islandgirl103]

CR, do you know why Chrysler chose not to offer memory seats and a middle seat option in the hybrid Pacifica, and if those options will be added in the future to make the hybrid more comparable to the regular gas engine model?

[@tjs114]

The middle seat arrangement on the Pacifica plug-in is because the batteries are located in the floor beneath them. It is also why they don't have Sto-N-Go. Alex on Autos did an excellent review of the Plug In Pacifica.

[@jobber1984]

Love this show

[@AlonsoMaldonado0]

We totally agree on the like for the BMW 5 Series and VW Tiguan, unfortunately the Pacifica Hybrid and the Cadillac are not on sale here in Mexico, we also don't like the QX30, because of the interior room, it feels small and we never can fit comfortable, there's to many MB things in the dashboard that makes you wonder if they couldn't or want to make it more different than the German car, regards from Mexico =)

[@8877Lego]

Do you mind to turn on the captioning feature for this video please?

[@TinLeadHammer]

Do you expect to read anything worthy of your attention?

[@theshivelyfamily]

Highlights: 1) “life in the slow in the slow lane” comment. 2) Jake picks Cadillac as his COTY. 3) Gabe announces he is the 2018 spokesperson and model for Hair Club for Men.

[@arkboi2145]

Curious Question -- Why does almost every single consumer report or study seem to flat-out ignore high-end luxury vehicles (Lincoln, Buick, Lexus, Cadillac, Jaguar, Porche, Volvo, Audi, BMW, Maserati, Mercedes-Benz, etc) and instead focus on the cheaper average all-around ones (Honda, Acura, Toyota, Infiniti, Mazda, Kia, Subaru, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Ford, Dodge, Nissan, Jeep, etc)? Granted, I have seen a FEW reports where luxury vehicles are listed, but in almost every single one, all of the luxury vehicles received terrible reviews except for Lexus.

[@user-gs3pt1uf1g]

One of the reviewers has a pint of blond pilsener beer on the table. Nice! Do beer reviews too.

[@francismartinez6049]

Merry Christmas 🎄

[@slapanarchy]

I'd like to hear more about the cars that CR buys that no one wants to drive, and the CR cars that are always in demand.

[@jimmelay71]

Don't all small suvs choose style over substance? I mean other than a slightly higher ride height what do they offer over a typical hatchback?

[@MaestroTJS]

Nothing. SUV's really suck on almost all levels. It's such an enormous disappointment that the market is full of them and there are few alternatives (by this I mean wagons and hatchbacks).

[@ryans1986ss]

What do y'all think between Civic, Elantra , and forte?

[@francismartinez6049]

Ryan Fiderlick Civic is best if your the type of person that likes to keep their cars for 15-20 years trouble free - which is something that a Hyundai or Kia cannot do. The Civic is also roomier, more fun to drive, and holds its resale value much higher. You will be very happy with a Civic

[@TerMa354]

Traded in my 2015 Cruze ( which I liked a lot) for the Tiguan. It did not take me long to be glad that we did. I would not have chosen a VW not to long ago. Anything will break if you don't treat it right. I look forward to the changes the next model cycle makes. I'm glad that I have the Tiguan a chance. The radio, Bluetooth area so easy to use and I can fit my family of six ( a six and 9 year old in the back) in it. The torque is nice and gas mileage is good for the class imo. The 2017 was terrible to me.

[@josenaldodcueva]

i wanna know ... what car these ings ride

[@NiharM77]

Can they scale the Pacifica down for other cars? I hope so.

[@tarassu]

I think BMW did well that they offer not very powerful drivetrain as a low end option for 5-series.

[@ebuff57]

I actually watched the whole video!

[@azera55555]

Mike, that's exactly what I feel about the Renegade too. Jerky transmission, very slow noisy engine, poor fuel economy, and a god awful ride. It's just so terrible to drive and I would leave the keys hanging on the hook too.

[@Briguy1027]

I liked the Tiguan too, but compared to others in the class, it's a bit pricey.

[@stevenminnick]

Did Jake bring a beer to the recording of this video? I'm not sure if that's just awesome and I need to get a job there, or if your co-workers should be offended... did you even offer to get one for them? :)

[@gavin6090]

Gabe came to a place really close to me that nobody would go to for fun....

[@tropx8995]

I wasn't too surprised that the guy on the left thought a Chrysler minivan was his favorite car of the year.

[@paulfun8720]

Why does JF always have a beer on the go?

[@Transpower]

I wish that CR would make public their algorithm for calculating the Road Test scores. I'd like to know the weights they apply to each spec. Some of the scores make no sense, e.g., the base Cayenne is rated at 78, whereas the CX-9 is rated at 80, the Grand Cherokee is rated 80-84, and the MDX is rated at 79. How on earth can the MDX or Grand Cherokee or CX-9 have higher road test scores than the Cayenne?

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

Wow, least expected anyone to like Cadillac. That was a surprise - thanks to Supercruise. That and them disliking not one but two Toyotas because of hydrogen fueling infrastructure and the Toyota CH-R just as a car overall. Very odd year. Thanks to this team carrying this show forward.

[@animal16365]

I liked the C-HR. But I didn't like the engine and transmission combination. I'd like to see Toyota put in the 2.5 liter 4 cylinder and a 6 speed auto

[@M67v]

animal16365 Or the 8-Speed better yet.

[@tinhinnh]

most vehicles in this class uses a 2.0L

[@williamb.1582]

Perhaps the QX30 will linger around for 15 years like the Aztek. Unfortunately it's less practical!

[@matteo909]

the front of the marai looks like a combination of a new prius and the tesla model x

[@stano49]

What happened to Tom Muchler?

[@mtnbrfl]

Hopefully gone. I hated that guy.

[@apache-yaquibrown4060]

So sad he moved on. 😢😭

[@GFSLombardo]

Stupid Question: when a hybrid or electric vehicle is running solely on electrical battery power how do you calculate MPG? Miles Per Gallon of what? Just askin'...

[@stephenj4937]

It's MPGe, where 33.7 kWh of electricity = 1 gallon of gasoline. So if you go 50 miles on 33.7 kWh, that is 50 MPGe.

[@blurglide]

Yes- a gallon of gas has 33.7 kWh of chemical energy. However, the figure can be misleading. A coal fired powerplant has an efficiency of about 40%, so multiply mpge by .4 if it's important for you to get a VERY rough estimate of how much fossil fuel you're burning. If you live somewhere with renewable or nuclear power adjust your numbers accordingly.

[@TheJoeMB]

I really like the CH-R though

[@CurrentRapCurrents]

Be half of that... LOL! Hahahaah!!! 13:47

[@crumdoggy]

You should find a way to create a metric in regards to those cars in demand by the CR staff. Perhaps something "non-mandatory miles or hours logged". I think it would be extremely insightful; right now we only get snippets of this through comments during "Talking Cars" such as "that car is always checked out...." or "nobody picks the ____."

[@brentsiniawski4826]

crumdoggy yes! My thoughts exactly! CR please take note - this would be excellent to include in your annual auto issue.

[@troybrownentertainment2324]

He looked like the type that was going to pick a mini van 😅😆😂

[@mountainhobo]

What type is that? Intelligent?

[@edgarcia9206]

mountainhobo boring

[@Phos9]

The engineers won every argument over the bolt, apart from the aerodynamicists. I’ve heard it’s quite bad.

[@uceid]

The hybrid Pacifica seem a bit bold to me. 29 miles of EV range is not enough, I would have loved a pure EV version or one with at least 80-100 miles of EV range so that you could almost never use the gas unless you were traveling far. At least it makes it one of the most fuel efficient mini van which is good.

[@robs2765]

Martin Brochu its a start

[@antoinepageau8336]

If the public actually listened to CR recommendations everyone would be driving either a Toyota Camry or Corolla.

[@penvon]

Antoine Pageau Same goes for JD Powers,everyone would be driving a Kia/Hyundai & AutoGuide everyone would be driving a Honda.

[@Trades46]

The Corolla & Camry are the 'safe' choices, but the world be pretty beige if that was the only factor in a car purchase. It is like dating a girl or guy who is reliable; a nice partner for sure, but is that the only thing you look at for a significant other?

[@JDMHaze]

I was surprised to se Toyota CHR on the list since it had ALL the standard safety equipment, good pricing but she's exactly right, CHR would be perfect they screwed up the drive train, offering NO AWD and a weenie engine for powertrain...smh .... Toyota was DEAD WRONG for that

[@rightlanehog3151]

You can't see out of it!

[@noiricha]

Of the cars they liked basically they enjoyed the new car experience of models that all have very poor reliability history. All those cars are great for the first 3 years - then the warrantee ends and the EXPENSIVE maintenance begins. The ones they disliked were some pretty poorly engineered vehicles with exception of the hydrogen vehicle which is experimental.

[@J_Alex_Carr_95]

What happened to Tom?

[@mountainhobo]

Left long time ago.

[@onenikkione]

2018 The Stinger

[@mikemc330]

Please, I would love to see a revolt against many carmakers (Honda and Toyota and others) not using quality top notch materials like they did in the past. They really moved backwards.

[@mohammedfuadh9096]

Mike Mc And overstyling their vehicles. Oh my god some those look terrible.😅

[@southtexasgal4393]

I love my Honda CR-V. It rides beautifully. Yes, the styling is overdone in some places, but I don’t mind.

[@br33zy771]

should have got an escape

[@tominftlthomasp3559]

what about changing back to the spin on oil filters?

[@Tepekegoat68]

Wheres tom? 🤔

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

He left CU last May... he is still around on Instagram. Catch him there.

[@carroll7110]

ISMH on the GM Bolt comments. Don't you people read? The Bolt is doing well for more and less than the Tesla Model 3++.

[@irionpleione8312]

Speaking about worst cars: The new Mercedes Benz A-class lower-end models are set to run on a newly developed torsion beam arrangement. (from Autocar; UK). the news came out today.

[@mikemassino]

Cheap and outdated suspension

[@Larry-ct5mg]

How about a story on what an owner is facing with a car out of the factory warranty for maintenance and repairs. Are there certain cars that are difficult for independent shops to service? Are parts for certain cars less available on the open market?

[@tarassu]

CR is counting cylinders? Really :D

[@joebullington4997]

Not to be the Nattering Nay-Bob of Negativity, but did you think for a second about long-term reliability and cost when picking your favorites? BMW? And even worse...VW? I guess if someone else is footing the bill those don't factor in (and I'm talking long-term...not 3-4 years).

[@erickbren8702]

Here in Costa Rica an USED A6 2011 premium plus: $22500. new? 75k!!!!

[@eattolive1944]

I like to listen to Jennifer!

[@mwj9080]

Forever Free she does the best job at moderating in my opinion. She needs to be the one who moderates for now on.

[@JDMHaze]

Forever Free I didn't like some of her reviews, but she is very levelheaded about the way she judges cars, I actually love her input, I mean she is exactly right about the CHR, and that was funny she said she wouldn't even put a child in there unless it was time out

[@gene978]

I’ve noticed in all these nice round table talk Jake seems to have a pint in front of him. And he’s the ONLY one. Does he go through withdrawals with out it? ;)

[@dstein111]

gene978 could be juice. I think they shoot this during work hours.

[@justinclark5078]

He said in the prior episode it’s green tea. Why he can’t leave it at his desk is what I’m still trying to figure out... at first I thought he was going to pitch some new diet lol.

[@justindavis5983]

The supercruise doesn't make you a better Driver. It makes you a worse driver because you rely on the car to drive itself

[@mikecastellon3022]

Super cruise makes easier for airheads to text and do their never ending selfies as they head to the mall for another pair of shoes

[@sunofegypt7]

Infinity has been doing very poor lately sad. They charge a ton for their vehicles

[@jimd2463]

Is that a urine sample in the glass ?

[@Modeltrainscarsstereos614]

Where’s tom Mutchler?

[@tinhinnh]

Darion Fox havent seen him mutch

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

He left in May 2016. You can find him posting on instagram if you sign up under his name.

[@Red_Proton]

Please, more reviews by engineers!

[@mikecastellon3022]

If you’re going to have beer in front of u as a “prop” we want to see u chugging it and if you’re a smoker ...light em up.

[@nokithecat]

I would put over 95% of the cars from the factories into the crusher pile

[@wholeNwon]

So you buy cars that aren't from factories?

[@LlyleHunter]

A few months ago there was a food recall regarding vegetables grown at a certain farm. A guy in his early twenties posted a comment that said "That's why you should buy your food from stores!" I just don't know 😲

[@sideswipebl]

So, what do you drive?

[@stevenstrange8556]

You're not going to tell us that they don't make them like they used to are you? Because most older cars pale in comparison to the new ones.

[@Sevej1920]

I agree with the guy who likes the new BMW 5 series out of the previous generation F10 and I do like the new styling it's not so noticeable and at first I thought it looks similar to the F10 but it had to really grow with me for me to appreciate the new design styling where they stuck to the original roots and also the guy making a comment about the 4-cylinder twin-turbo that's only one option bro you forgetting this is BMW there's a 535i with an incline 6 Twin Turbo you have the option of a 550 with a V8 engine and you also if you got the money you can go with an M5 BMW gives you countless options so I think that was a pretty dumb comment that guy made and obviously for the Baseline model sedan people buying that car is obviously going to buy it for the look and the fuel economy and comfortably not to say that it still isn't a very capable machine easily if pushing the same amount of horsepower as a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry and although those two names are not comparable synonymously to BMW we are referring to the Baseline model and its advantages over the other more expensive models before 2011 at 528i used to come with an incline 6 at the Baseline model and the 535i was the same incline 6 with twin turbos so it was saw and thought to be a very reliable car we didn't have to worry about the maintenance of the two turbos and he still had a bulletproof incline 6 that has changed from 2011 and it is now an incline 4-cylinder twin-turbo and in fact a very interesting fact would be knowing that the 2011 BMW 528i F10 is the only F10 body style 528i base model to still carry an incline 6

[@mikemassino]

It's "inline 6" not "incline 6"

[@roguedogx]

the toyota CH-R I totally agree on what a mess that car is. Although "styling over function" I don't see any style, so that makes it the worst of both worlds and this was clearly a case of Toyota trying to be cool, but Toyota just isn't cool.

[@wscott9779]

She can use the CHR to pickup her Volkswagen from the shop.

[@JDMHaze]

W Scott nice lol

[@M67v]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@stevewise1656]

W Scott haha my thoughts exactly. CR is known for reliability ratings, yet they all chose the worst or close to worst car manufacturers for reliability. Chrysler, BMW, V “freakin” W?!

[@TheDevonParker]

Volkswagen isn't even close to bottom of the list. They are in the "average" category. Something you may find interesting is that Audi is ranked #4 on their list, but share engines, drivetrains, and a lot of electronics with their VW counterparts. VW's tend to be quite reliable if they're maintained properly and not abused like older Japanese makes by people who like to go 20,000 miles without changing the oil.

[@AudiKayder]

Devon Parker that's the truth. The volkswagen brand is an extremely reliable brand if you treat the car well. Toyota don't need that type of treatment. Thats why VW is a drivers brand and Toyota is a brand for people who don't care about cars.

[@breeze787]

When did Consumer Reports become so subjective? I always thought that Consumer Reports from what I remember it to be taking the stance more towards, "lacking an opinion'. And focus more towards a consumer want or desire in features, performance and creature comforts. What happened?

[@br33zy771]

hybrids are strait up better than regular cars, in every possible way. I won't even buy a regular ice car ever again.

[@reserva120]

he never drinks his beer, the glass stays half full the whole time..

[@slapanarchy]

It's green tea...

[@ttjoshtt1]

After watching a few of this videos i start to wonder about the reliability of there reviews.... :-(

[@BryceLovesTech]

Chrysler and electrical......yikes. Please test the Tesla Model 3 soon

[@JDMHaze]

Bryce And considering they are owned by Fiat, and used to be partnered with the Mercedes, the king of electrical issues, I'm a little shocked, but reliability seems to be well thus far, I'm actually impressed

[@Trades46]

Tesla has NOT been reliable in CR testing. Given how long it is taking to get the Model 3 to paying customers, I'm not having my hopes up given how much electric problems the Model S & X both possess.

[@azalru]

Trades46 consumer reports has the Model S as above average.

[@isaacroebuck9514]

It's like handing a mentally challenged toddler a box full of tangled wires and a 240V outlet.

[@esparzaantonio1]

Is that beer🍺 😏👀👀

[@anotheran]

Antonio Esparza they explained it last eps as tea

[@apache-yaquibrown4060]

That is a rouse, green tea, but why is it foamy?

[@aurorajones8481]

I still say Hydrogen is pie in the sky when compared to BEV. My biggest thing is i can make my own fuel at home for my BEV w/ solar panels. If i want to do that w/ hydrogen its extremely costly and takes up a huge amount of land for the tanks and would only be viable for a small demographic. Jay's comment on the Infiniti locking you in makes ME so mad as well. Thats a Nissan thing and makes me furious. Its also a Subaru thing. EVERY time I curse the damn car, how dare you trap me in here making me press a damn button! I dont like that Subi's head units will start up music automatically. Ok you say just turn it off. NO cause when your in reverse you cant turn the radio off! So you are forced to turn turn turn it down. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

[@saltinecracker6586]

Che year bolt interior eeeewwwww

[@francismartinez6049]

For all you annoying people that keep asking where Tom is....he's LONG GONE. So cut it out in the comments.

[@MaestroTJS]

Did they ever say what happened to him?

[@rhaven50]

Where's tom

[@stevewise1656]

Somehow I’m sure Gabe’s favorite will be a European car maker. I knew it! This video was useless for me and I don’t generally find these sessions useless.

[@sic22l]

Tesla's range is not an example of new technology but the scale. All their cars have massive batteries, in the Model S it weighs a tonne! In the Bolt the battery itself is 50% of the car's weight (that's why the rest is basically a cheap and nasty plastic box). It has nothing to do with ecology. And when it gets colder you loose 40% of range immediately.

[@iLikeTigerz101]

Well what do you know, Chrysler’s first good car.

[@penvon]

Every single time Gabe speaks I tend to doze off & snap back when someone else speaks.Jake looks like he argues with his spouse at home.The guy with the glasses looks like he has no minority friends.

[@MaestroTJS]

Jeez, man, I think you need to relax a bit.

[@AnsrMax]

Would CR ever address the radiation issue in Japanese cars from fukushima fallout?

[@BananaChipzzz]

Ansr Max They did. Your tinfoil hat must have blocked the audio...

[@goons123flofy]

A little bit of radiation is good for ya!

[@poda7273]

My least favorite is the guy on the far right. So terribly annoying...

[@karld3789]

At least he had a beer haha

[@AudiKayder]

True, the guy liked the least reliable car company, and disliked the most reliable company. Cadillac is a worthless company

[@apache-yaquibrown4060]

I can't stand him either, I suspect he is drunk, the interrupting, the clearing of the throat, the sudden euphoria, reminds of that creepy uncle that drinks too much and you avoid at all costs.

[@edysinsimon8646]

I'm 64 and you guys made me yawn! I guess I don't get it anymore, what passes for a passionate/desirable looking car swims to to absent from your list of "loved" cars!

[@sideswipebl]

This is almost exactly what I’ve been thinking but too scared to actually say lest I’m actually wrong. It almost seems as if the people who do Talking Cars have no real passion for cars at all. They can rattle off about how practical a car is, how good the fuel economy is, etc, but the only thing performance-wise the really care about is if it can get on a highway and accelerate fast enough to merge with the already fast-moving traffic. They almost never review sports cars and will probably never even see a supercar in their boring, monochrome lifetime. The real cherry on top is how absolutely ruthless they are about safety. To them, a car is an utter deathtrap unless it has automatic emergency braking and forward collision warning (as if it would even be necessary to have both at the same time) as standard, and this has a noticeable effect on how good the car is to them. I bet if they were reviewing a priceless new Ferrari they would whine about how unsafe and “too fast” it is, and score it really low. Even if it was the first car to ever reach 300 miles per hour, they would dismiss this and just keep whining, giving the car a low score regardless of its actual performance. They clearly have no respect for car culture, either, seemingly completely ignoring the huge JDM and American muscle community. Overall, it seems like Consumer Reports does not see cars as a fun, novel way to get around, or an extension of one’s personality, but as a simple mode of transport, like walking, or taking a bus, or a plane. TL;DR CR doesn’t understand the point of cars

[@noonions4138]

“CR doesn’t understand the point of cars". No, you don't understand the point of Consumer Reports. Their market is the vast majority of car owners. People who want a car to start when it's supposed to, that won't leave them stranded, that gets decent gas mileage, and that offers them quiet comfortable transportation. If you doubt that, consider the number of Camrys, Accords, and similar as opposed to the “muscle” cars. Extension of one’s personality? You are not what you drive. Just as owning a Pit Bull does not make you rough and tough. Anecdotally my sister-in-law drives a Corvette and I can assure you she is not a Corvette (a 10 year old Camry comes to mind).

[@stevenstrange8556]

I'm passionate about not being stranded on the side of the road. A car is simply an appliance that (hopefully) gets you safely to your destination. I'll satisfy my urge to drag race on the X-Box.

[@GURUKHAN_OG]

Guys, I love your insights, but this video is very bad! Nobody has the time to sit through your banner for 20 mins. Get started to the point and keep the video interesting. Tip#1 - no background music in video #2 - no beating around the bushes #3- raise the audio levels to an appropriate decided which gets viewers attentions easily!