The case for drinking

[@NA-oo4ls]

I went sober not too long ago and it has been one of the best decisions I’ve made. If you think you should try sobriety, you should.

[@infinitemonkey917]

I assume you are part of the 12 step religious cult based on your name.

[@squanchy7643]

It's a good time. After a while you start to hate alcohol and enjoy the clear mind you have more than anything else. I only drink socially and I really don't enjoy it at all.

[@jakegarrett8109]

Madness, what were you doing before, like an IV drip into your bloodstream to always stay not-sober? That's pretty hardcore levels, haha!

[@seth4321]

Good for you. Keep fighting the good fight friend 👊🏻

[@carlodave9]

According to this expert, alcohol made you creative, insightful, and thus a more effective, well adjusted citizen of a complex society. And you're WILLINGLY throwing all of that away. Tisk, tisk, tisk.

[@asahearts1]

Masturbation is also not an "evolutionary mistake." Like alcohol it allows us to conciously self regulate our bodies, for better or worse. "We need to learn to trust, even though it's not rational to trust." Great quote.

[@moneybags7064]

Ive been sober for nearly a year. Best decision I ever made. I don't plan on going back

[@davidyoung]

You made the right choice.

[@mase002]

been almost 3 years for me. Its nice. The clarity part everyone talks about is real. The only thing that sucks is the bonding part that is mentioned in the video is tougher, but mostly because many people havent learned how to bond with others without alcohol. But I have learned caffeine has been a good replacement when I want to go out with friends. And I also don't burden myself with staying out as late as they do. Drunks take a lot of energy to be around lol

[@thomasmacisaac1503]

I didn't need anyone to make a case for drinking... _cracks a Bud_

[@fortusvictus8297]

Really it's a form of medicine. Alcohol makes routine and mundane tasks less of a burden and provides relief from psychological discomfort. Be it a bad relationship or a boring, dead-end job, alcohol makes the situation durable for a longer period of time without psychological or emotional stress. That being said, I don't know anyone who is more successful or found a better path through life because of alcohol. It's like any number of SSRI's now, it mutes the problems (and creates others) but it doesn't fix anything.

[@steamer2k319]

A lot of that sounds like the kind of thing you'd be interested in promoting if you ruled over a slave class.

[@RedK-uo3fo]

I’ve developed a habit of drinking in the evening when I have to clean up and make the dinner (stay at home mum raising three young kids). Otherwise once I get to the end of the day/evening I don’t feel motivated to get it done because I’m already so exhausted….

[@metalman_j]

@@steamer2k319 ...except that the controlling class drinks a lot of alcohol too. Their alcohol is just more expensive and is sold in catalogs and at airports.

[@jakegarrett8109]

@@metalman_j Airport drinks aren't really any better. Source: Had a Cabernet a couple weeks ago when I was flying first class. The seats are nicer, front row so nice leg room and perfect viewing angle, but the wine I'd say was probably a fairly cheap $20-30/bottle selection, at the prices they charge that's pocket change (granted I don't know the price they charge, drinks were complimentary with my ticket).

[@metalman_j]

@@jakegarrett8109 Oh, definitely. Cheap booze is awesome. The ruling class just covets things that cost more for the prestige factor.

[@RobertJohnson_Zeppo]

This explanation doesn't strike me as plausible. The most likely scenario is that it was a convenient way to store consumable liquid for prolonged periods of time and the pleasurable aspect was a secondary consideration over survival. Cholera was a thing... hell, recently.

[@fortusvictus8297]

Really it's a form of medicine. Alcohol makes routine and mundane tasks less of a burden and provides relief from psychological discomfort. Be it a bad relationship or a boring, dead-end job, alcohol makes the situation durable for a longer period of time without psychological or emotional stress. That being said, I don't know anyone who is more successful or found a better path through life because of alcohol. It's like any number of SSRI's now, it mutes the problems (and creates others) but it doesn't fix anything.

[@jbruneau84]

Pick up his book, he debunks this theory in it. He highlights how pathogens can simply be killed by boiling water - something we've known for thousands of years. His thesis of sociability/turning down PFC is convincing. It's a great read.

[@KeithOtisEdwards]

That’s analogous to saying that humans like to masturbate because it relieves dry skin.

[@epsilon3821]

THIS. They later changed the title too.

[@epsilon3821]

@@fortusvictus8297 No it aint with all that unhealthy fermenting

[@calholli]

It started as a necessity, beer and bread go hand in hand and are made with some of the same ingredients. But the beer was even safer to drink than the stagnant water they were dealing with most of the time. I don't think getting drunk motivated people to "settle down" and cultivate; that came by necessity, in order to survive. The fact that it would get you drunk was just a weird side effect.

[@earthwormscrawl]

Th safe drinking substance has be a major issue.

[@carlodave9]

He claims that knowledge of boiling water to make it potable has been around for as long as civilization as well. The problem with using that as an explanation is obvious. Alcohol as a boon to creative thinking is also suspect. If there are benefits in that direction, they soon disappear with repeated use and make you less creative and competent fairly quickly. Long term Drunken Mastery may be a thing but it is rare as hell. Bukowski is the only one that I can think of that certainly achieved it.

[@krunkle5136]

Alc is the oldest, time tested anti-anxiety medicine. It's fine in moderation and there's beautiful culture built around it.

[@hoboringmaster8029]

The strength I see to alcohol is its effects as a destresser, of course in moderation. Stress kills man

[@danielcobbins9050]

I used to drink a lot of beer to destress after some hard days. I don't care to drink anymore. Lost interest in it.

[@hoboringmaster8029]

@@danielcobbins9050 I mean to each his own. You do you, but stress highly affects heart disease(cardiovascular in gen) and strokes

[@nickybyrne4961]

I'm Irish. Thats my excuse for drinking. I'm half way there right now, just had a bottle of Merlot. Might even crack a couple of cans of Guinness I have in the fridge I was saving for the weekend. Dont judge me, it's for medicinal purposes.

[@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836]

Three words: _Modern Drunkard Magazine_

[@RevoltingPeasant123]

The only thing I’m judging you for is keeping Guiness in the fridge.

[@nutbastard]

@@RevoltingPeasant123 Preach.

[@Person-ro6uh]

Ayy just got home from work, on beer 2 now!

[@warpartyattheoutpost4987]

Irish I were drunk.

[@MaxDangerPower]

Sometimes I have a drink alone just to relax. I drink when I am out with friends, because deep down, I can't stand being around people, especially in public. However, I do like my friends, but I don't go out often. Drinking can be a slippery slope though. I used to be able to drink an entrie bottle of Irish whiskey in a night. If you get hooked, it can make whatever mental illness you have a lot worse.

[@benjaminandrades8951]

I'm glad us booze cruisers are finally getting some representation.

[@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836]

_Modern Drunkard Magazine_

[@dystopiaisutopia]

Losers

[@IlluminaZero]

Alcoholics are the majority and easily monopolize the social scene. What the fuck are you talking about?

[@Andrew300082]

Why are so many anti-drinkers commenting? You hate alcohol, it ruined your life. Ok. Whatever. What’s good for you isn’t good for all.

[@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836]

If you like this line of reason, there's a magazine called _Modern Drunkard_ that you will find hilarious. They are based in Denver and I picked up a couple copies at a second-hand bookstore. Great for the "coffee" table. 😁🍸🍻🍷🍹🥂🍺

[@jrgilby]

Also "The History of the Worlds in Six Glasses" - Three of the six beverages are beer, wine and spirits. (Coffee, Tea and Coca~Cola are the others)

[@Houlgravely]

I'd make the argument that coffee was just as important as alcohol for helping cement civilization.

[@metalman_j]

The vast majority of civilizations throughout history didn't have coffee. It's a relatively recent invention that at first was only consumed in and around the middle east. If you said "caffeine" instead of "coffee" you'd have a much stronger argument.

[@homewall744]

Because we love it. Only evil people try to ban it or ban really anything else that a person wants to consume for their own preferences.

[@dystopiaisutopia]

I don't love it

[@watchdealer11]

it's parent's job to tell their children what to do; not the government's

[@zachjones6944]

What if the child is an orphan?

[@donaldcake1]

@@zachjones6944 then the government as a last resort should find a parent, not try to be one. Any other family or friends should be part of the finding a parent before government, gov should just be involved enough to make sure the new parents are not predators

[@jamesmitch9792]

not if the parent is showing them how to do crimes. not everyone should be a parent. also children are not property.

[@jeproductionagaming]

It's not a parents job to "tell their children what to do" aren't libertarians supposed to be pro free thinking? Thats kinda a key point that no one, including the government, can tell you what to do with your own body but you think that doesnt apply to your child and a temporary meternal dictatorship is enforced until they earn the right to free thought?

[@Gewehr43a]

I think if you want to do something bad enough, you'll find an excuse to do it.

[@chrismiller5198]

and a rationalization to justify it.

[@WillieCorley]

I wish this video existed before I ever tried alcohol in 2011 at 21 years old. It does an excellent job explaining why people drink alcohol. I could not understand why people liked alcohol until I tried it, then I developed an unhealthy lifestyle where I went from being an A student to a B student. I hardly drink nowadays, but sometimes I wish I stayed drug free throughout my adulthood.

[@theredbirds3896]

Each their own- I love a good beer or wine. It brings pleasure to my life.

[@WillieCorley]

@@theredbirds3896 I have learned through experience that pleasure and happiness are two entirely different things.

[@spearspearspear]

From an A To a B!? That sucks dude. So sorry for you.

[@WillieCorley]

@@spearspearspear Yeah, that's why if I ever go back to college, I would need to live a 100% sober lifestyle to reach my full potential as a college student. People often need to sacrifice a lot to accomplish their goals. That's life.

[@TheMarioMen1]

I mean you’re still an adult you’re 32 no? Ain’t a boomer quite yet old man lmao 😂 👴🏻

[@top6ear]

"why we drink?" Have you met my wife?

[@ChrisM186]

XD

[@triplea657aaa]

I don't drink and it definitely limits my social options. Most of the other historical reasons for drinking aren't really relevant anymore though.

[@nightweilder6017]

This video shouldve been called the case for psychedelics because they do all of this and so much more

[@nutbastard]

Yeah but LSD and shrooms are an all day affair, and make sleep difficult. I can drink and zone out and watch a movie. I would under no circumstances do LSD or mushrooms at my own house.

[@TheCrusaderRabbits]

Wasn't this called "In Defense of Drinking"? Did they change it so soon?

[@metalman_j]

I prefer the new title.

[@TheMarioMen1]

Funny thought this video message was it’s okay to drink and alcohol provides a lot of abstract benefits to society and social structure, though most comments are like “I’m sober you should be too” 🤔 generally found 3 drinking rules that keep you safe 1) don’t drink when you’re in a bad or negative mood 2) avoid drinking alone 3) drink to get drunk not to get sick

[@thesurnamewithnoname7188]

because it helps a lot of people relax and give them courage they otherwise wouldn't have. Don't need a long explanation. If people want to drink let them. Why it is a bunch of tyrants can't just let people drink in peace is beyond me.

[@dystopiaisutopia]

Not on the job though.

[@kirk4960]

Thing said by nobody ever: "I need another reason to drink"! :-) Nice video!

[@barneys8644]

When My boss ask why I'm drinking on the job I'll show him this video and I'm sure he will understand.

[@ndesi62]

How is this remotely relevant to libertarianism? If someone chooses to abstain from alcohol, for whatever reason, how is it anyone else's business? Even if this guy is right about everything, why does Reason need to be the one to publicize his views? Could he not share those views on some other, more relevant, platform? What purpose does this video serve other than to subtly critique tee-totalers? I don't think libertarians should be commenting on anyone's private choices, neither positively nor negatively. At best you might end up giving good advice to someone who DID NOT ASK FOR IT and at worst you might actively alienate someone who would otherwise support your movement. Let this guy go share his ideas on some science channel, Reason should stick to talking about liberty.

[@whyjnot420]

And talking about what choices a person can make is not talking about liberty? Talking about why certain things should be allowable/legal is not talking about liberty? How does getting into the details of a particular argument fundamentally disagree with a libertarian stance? Any teetotaler with the view that others are allowed to make their own choices will not be dissuaded from a Libertarian (note big L) way of doing things. Any teetotaler who thinks that they have the right to choose for other people, will NEVER take a libertarian stance on things unless they change that opinion.

[@SubvertTheState]

To me it sounds like there are a lot of recovering alcoholics very upset with a triggering video. But the title literally says 'The Case For Alcohol' so I'm not sure how this could be a shocking surprise. I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to post anything other than political party propoganda.

[@linuxguy1199]

Woosh! Talking about the pros of a heavily controlled substance on a libertarian channel? This is a perfect fit for the channel! This is why I support the Libertarian party, its the only one open to ideas and the only one that looks at multiple aspects of an issue.

[@spec24]

Reason no longer has anything to do with libertarianism. However, you're desire to remain stupid is noted.

[@nutbastard]

Click away, then. No one made you watch this video. Free speech includes speech you disagree with. I'm a capital L Libertarian; I found this interesting. Seems like you didn't. That's ok. I also found your comment interesting. Live and let live works both ways. I don't see this as harming the cause. Clearly you do. That's the beauty of civil discourse.

[@Sarahmint]

So there is a function of alcohol as a tool in political negotiation. Let's say nothing of the violence, liver failure, and destroyed homes and relationships alcoholism brings.

[@SubvertTheState]

Alcohol and alcoholism are different.

[@Patchaddictedpolymath]

You completely missed the point, here's a gold star.

[@artembolshakov3901]

*political and social. MOSTLY social, within your irl friend group. I dunno, I can salsa with a glass, but not without one. I can lose a few years off my life if it helps me meet people. Let people make their own decisions.

[@-whackd]

Kava kava is a much more useful tool in political negotiation. It inclines one toward peacefulness, thus it was used by tribal chieftains in the Pacific islands to sit down together and negotiate. I suggest you go to a local kava bar and see for yourself.

[@jacobawojtowicz]

Perhaps you can, or Reason may next, post a video of "the case against drinking" This video is titled "the case FOR drinking" so bringing up the counterpoint isn't exactly on topic. I see what you're saying, I'm from a broken home as well. But there's nothing wrong with presenting a viewpoint and not hitting every single pro & con.

[@jacobpetersen5662]

I LOVE the taste of red wine. I drink it for dinner, alone or with my wife. It has ZERO to do what this guy is suggestion! I like the taste, that's it.

[@davidyoung]

This sounds just like someone with a drink problem trying to rationalise it.

[@remylebae3395]

💯

[@nicholasheimann4629]

Drinking makes people more open to bad ideas.

[@Ari--d]

this guy sounds like he is trying not to wake up his parents in the next room

[@S.J.L]

I'm sure that getting buzzed, stoned, hammered, high and entranced was part of it but there's more to the story. Gobekli Tepe is an interesting site for one. Surely they were on mushrooms and primitive alcohol, etc. but the site developed thousands of years before agriculture as a religious site for somewhat nomadic people. Alcohol, etc. is fine but it doesn't really answer the question of why people wanted to get together and cooperate in the first place. I've gone into that cave. It's deeper than that.

[@macdietz]

So social behavior is a deep mystery to you? Really? Not just basic evolutionary biology and simple logic? Humans have been social creatures since well before they were even humans.

[@S.J.L]

@@macdietz "Social" how is the question compadre. What I'm getting at is that it is a mystery that people aren't even more psychopathic & dysfunctional than they are. Why don't we behave like rabid wolverines all the time? Why do we seek to build a life together at all? What is this "psyche" we all have? These are questions beyond simplistic explanation from the cosmic perspective. It's weird that you felt a need to comment on this, I'm guessing you're not peacefully meditating or in Church this Sunday Morning. Vaya Con Dios.

[@danielericksen2679]

Reason gets shit on by the mises caucus and now they release s video of let's get drunk

[@ericpetersen8645]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Muonium1]

alcohol tastes like shit. I don't enjoy either drinking it or any of its secondary effects and never understood why everyone else seems to like it so much. That said, the drinking age needs to be lowered to the same 18 year legal age for everything else, eliminate alcohol sales and production licensing, and abolish the ATF immediately. 😁

[@nickybyrne4961]

Someone hasn't tried Jack Daniels Tennessee Honey.

[@jacobawojtowicz]

It's an acquired taste. I know people say that about a lot of things but alcohol is actually one. The more you drink, the more the reward centers of your brain tell your taste buds to stfu.

[@whyjnot420]

Good for you. Now how does that effect others? If it does not, then I nod in approval and ask if you want some tea. If it does effect others, such as by forcing people to go along with it, then I have some not-so-nice words for you. point being: You need to explore what implications your personal taste has on those around you for it to have any context that in turn gives it meaning. Otherwise it is just a pointless statement since you are only stating a truism. edit: Well done.

[@IncrediPaulAZ]

The first half sounds like you prefer a pumpkin spiced latte after pilates class and the second half sounds like you'd like a 21-year-old single-malt with a nice Padron after another successful elk hunt while shaving your beard with a straight edge. 😉

[@morefiction3264]

BATF should be a convenience store, not a government agency.

[@lilahdog568]

Why I smoke: Because the funhouse reality is my hangout, and it's anywhere I'm high at.

[@artembolshakov3901]

I think everything but the last argument is compelling. I'm not convinced that all first agriculture was for alcohol - just because you can make alcohol from the maize stem doesn't mean they weren't using it for the grains, meager as they were.

[@555Trout]

It's more likely grain agriculture was originally to feed livestock. As we were shepard's before farmers. It probably took centuries to figure out how to use grain for human food. Which of course has been a catastrophe for human health.

[@SuperFinGuy]

Ok so reason wants us to be junkies and drunks, as long as someone is making money form it, nice.

[@warpartyattheoutpost4987]

Everything in moderation... including moderation.

[@BunkydooOfficial]

Oh look another guy trying to rationalize hitting the bottle

[@Timmmmm42y]

I approve of the argument but this is the most boring guy I have ever listened to.

[@dustinabc]

A CRUTCH- that's what I see alcohol being promoted as here. There are many techniques and skills that can be learned to increase socializing skills, reduce anxiety, stimulate creativity, etc. without ingesting substances. And without nearly the level of risk. And dependency on alcohol or other substances for the temporary benefits can retard and hinder developing those skills, and mastering self control. Clearly alcohol has been a big part of many civilizations, and history. Clearly we should be free to consume whatever we want, but we are always responsible for our actions. The promotion of alcohol here in this video is a bit unwise and short-sighted, without pointing out other views, and the harms alcohol has caused and causes as well.

[@charlesk1541]

Good to see Reason go back to it's roots

[@tomsmock7674]

Excellent

[@justme8108]

I have never drank alcohol and don't really care to. I don't understand the desire to drink. I like my brain, skin and health.

[@hoppish088]

Does not explain the reason why I have only one beer, say with dinner, when dining alone or with my wife. Could it be that I just enjoy the taste with my meal?

[@ArloPignotti]

What's wrong with your calendar?

[@TedSchoenling]

If you need to drink to get along, you have a problem.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Interesting how intoxication was just skipped right over.

[@goosiechild]

eat the bread, Gilgamesh. drink the beer.

[@Bangy]

I stopped drinking once I reached legal age because there isn't a point anymore.

[@loveinseattle]

Funded by the alcohol industry?

[@IAmNotAHorse]

Lots of angry teetotalers in the comments.

[@cravinbob]

For relief because life is hell.

[@warpartyattheoutpost4987]

Everything in moderation... including moderation.

[@gregs1936]

If alcohol is so evolutionary beneficial, then why does alcohol consumption fall as societies become more complex and develop knowledge economies who rely far more heavily on creativity and cooperation?

[@williamhibbitts3250]

One problem with this case: Spirits were only invented relatively recently in human history (a cursory search says that the distillation of wine, to isolate the alcohol within, first occurred in the 9th century AD). Since then spirits have moved on from forms of medicine to mainstream alcoholic beverages. Most of the time when people drink to the point of requiring medical attention, spirits are involved. It's important to remember that the way the ancients drank is very different from the drinking culture of today. Drinking is fine, but we have to watch it since alcohol today is much stronger than it used to be.

[@williamhibbitts3250]

Beer is not a distilled liquor. Beer is around 5% abv. Spirits are around 40%. Beer is made from fermenting grains. Spirits are made from the distillation of alcohol from a mash.

[@williamhibbitts3250]

@CrabApples Bodaciously Bitter Fruit's I encourage you to learn about how vodka, whiskey, brandy, and gin are made because you do not seem to understand the difference between beer/mead and distilled beverages.

[@Yeetus223]

Well sure but there is a theory that we created civilization due to beer.

[@jacksonh3457]

Yea I’m pretty sure Alexander the Great and the Macedonians in roughly 300 BC drank wine that wasn’t fully fermented and it was very high in alcohol content, at least almost as high a spirits.

[@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836]

So you're saying the Romans didn't have wine?

[@ConradSpoke]

I think we drink cold beer on a hot day because, well, what else are you going to do with it?

[@rjwl55]

I grew up among Mayan Indians whose high genetic addiction rate, like other "First Nations," to alcohol was destroying their people group. To my knowledge, no cultures have desired drunkenness among their women, men, or children, and only the leisure-class elite or drug-induced shaman were seen as benefiting from drunkenness/psychedelics. Refrigeration is a modern invention so many cultures had things spoil, some turned alcoholic, some vinegar, some uneatable. Alcohol cannot get beyond 14% with natural fermentation, and was usually diluted to1-3% alcohol, as that was helpful against waterborne disease. Where water was boiled, for tea etc, the same benefit was achieved. Strong drink (14% alcohol) is soundly condemned in the Bible. The history of the destructiveness of distilled spirits (15-80%), especially once they became cheap and widely available, is unparalleled until the modern distilled-drug era (heroin, cocaine, fentanyl, etc).

[@Ton369]

Fun Fact: He was out clubbing last night.

[@izzyzakable]

What about the *many* other cultivated and produced substances by humans? Alcohol, by volume, is markedly awful for your body to achieve a ‘cultural experience’. Alcohol is one of the few recreational drugs we are okay with, and happens to be one of the worst long-term.. much like cigarettes. I believe we should allow all the drugs. I think the many of the negatives of alcohol will be reduced as use of it as a single and numbing substance will be spread across other substances, a few of which (mushrooms) are actually fantastic at dulling habitual behaviors and reducing stress long term. Not a shroomy guy or anything, just a person who doesn’t drink, smoke, or take drugs regularly looking at systemic acceptance of bodily restriction and purposeful ignorance of other options. If I want to do those drugs, I should be allowed to do them, and I sure as hell would have little interest in alcohol if everything was available. Frankly I think alcohol would fall off the map as soon as most of society had tried other things.

[@-whackd]

Alcohol is the poor man's G

[@Xeverous]

FYI Thomas Sowell advocated for legalization of drugs. He said that legal or illegal, some people will destroy their lives but when they are legal, gangs fighting for control are not a thing.

[@metalman_j]

There are plenty of societies where shrooms were completely legal and yet alcohol was still consumed in large quantities. Take Japan, where shrooms were legal until 2002.

[@jakegarrett8109]

@@Xeverous Biggest gang in the US is the ATF, and yet they still fight for control over legal alcohol... If you don't think they are a rival gang, look at what they did in the 20's and 30's, tell me that's not controlling gang behavior.

[@izzyzakable]

Yeah dude, not quite sure what your point is there as most folks know you’ll fry your mf brain on gobs of mushrooms a week repeatedly in due time. Most folks are not trying to hallucinate with permanent visual snow for life or worse, a lotta random psychedelic events occurring out of the blue at 50 years old. You need *gobs* of alcohol to feed a society in comparison and mushrooms have not been proven to be addictive- very much unlike alcohol. The point being: just because a lotta mushrooms aren’t being consumed, doesn’t mean people aren’t deriving equal or greater than enjoyment. Plus the argument isn’t about *shrooms* I want it *all* legal. And against it *all* alcohol is not the choice people would choose.

[@mvmlego1212]

I really don't understand this video. It's irrelevant to Reason's purpose; the last quarter of the video isn't even about why we drink, and at least one of the explanations that he offered for why we drink is implausible. Drinking inhibits PFC activity, but it doesn't enhance creativity. Its immediate effects on other parts of the brain are too deleterious for that.

[@JennWest-Liberty]

Are there not some people, cultures and tribes who did not partake until it was introduced by some other culture.

[@S.J.L]

One of the most interesting things is that Mediterranean societies developed higher alcohol wine and spread out their empires. This strikes me as congruent, the character of alcohol is manic depressive.

[@development_of_ukraine]

Вы считаете, что из-за подавления прифронтальной коры алкоголем пьяный человек не может врать? Вы, видимо, никогда не слушали пьяные истории о 100 женщинах за ночь с двухсотым размером груди.

[@joshstucki4349]

This could be unintentionally seen as a commercial FOR alcohol consumption. Unwise.

[@headpump]

To forget today and face tomorrow..

[@MM-KunstUndWahrheit]

Alcohol, cigarettes, huka,...Not even once was I interested in any addictive substance from thw sort. People who defend such disruptive substances, they defend it by the instinct of the human nature, the pleasure that develops a habit and it persists. All of the excuses circulating around the material supposing them as benefits, are nothing but empty reasons to justify not the root of the issue but what is around it. I find that a person must consider commiting to avoid any addictive substances ranging from sugar, pornography, alcohol...to the most addictive substances out there and seeking help is essential in severe cases. Happiness, if it is what envisaged, you will find it in experiencing your strength and capabilites to their full potential, where limitations stops you. Happiness is a complex trait within the human that cannot be approached except by understanding yourself rather than instant gratification sources.

[@Carnivorousplantyum]

Next do the benefits of being in a gang. There's a lot of bonding that happens when a group of members go to execute a rival gang member. Then there are the lessons in entrepreneurship that come with selling drugs and lessons in social psychology that come with manipulating your prostitutes into giving you their money.😁

[@sumirunihon]

i think this video should be called "why we started drinking" instead of "why we drink". titling it "why we drink" sorta implies that it has the same benefits that it did when civilization was first forming but we can easily see how that's not true. so many people's lives are ruined by alcohol and it's clear that the benefits no longer outweigh the costs. we can find more healthy ways of socializing without having to involve alcohol while making people's livers healthier and having more cognitive function that gives people more self awareness and the same confidence can be achieved through self discipline and meditation. in my opinion alcohol is like religion. it was very useful in our evolutionary development but now it has more drawbacks than pros and it has now outlived it's evolutionary usefulness.

[@cameronlewis1218]

This boring guy droning on and on makes me wanna drink! Who’s with me!?

[@robertduffy5805]

This video sounds like an excuse to expense your bar tab under the guise of research

[@mattcat83]

Which of these benefits (like social trust) from a toxic substance (like alcohol) cannot also be reproduced by a significantly less toxic substance (like pot)? This professor's explanations may make evolutionary sense, but they don't justify or rationalize continuing to drink today when there are so many other psychoactive substances that serve similar purposes without harming their users. End the War on Drugs.

[@jakegarrett8109]

Well in the 20's and 30's the US government would murder anyone buying and selling, its just bootleggers shot back (hence the NFA in the 30's, the government didn't like how hard it was to murder civilians). Drug runners are somewhat effective, but most aren't willing to pull out the Tommy's and let those Chicago type writers type away. Freedom isn't won by begging for it, never has been.

[@xMetalhead2000]

I’ll drink to this

[@Vstrwbery]

Can we imagine a social gathering without alcohol? Or food? Folks would likely be too anxious to talk to one another. Social lubricants decrease the natural basal paranoia people have towards each other. It's either that or some barter of shared identity (sometimes profound, sometimes meaningless) that can help decrease paranoia enough so people can be fair, or cooperative, towards one another. A backdrop of pleasure helps make unpleasant experiences tolerable. If anything, the preponderance of alcohol or food or destination vacationing indicates that humans need assistance to cope with the presence of others. The expectation that being with others should be (in of itself) pleasurable should be questioned.

[@harmonicarchipelgo9351]

I can imagine social gatherings with food or alcohol pretty easily. I have been to dozens of such events and they are a lot of fun. I find sober people to be much more interesting as they have coherent thoughts and the full use of their brains (I guess I am a PFC fan). Food does enhance social gatherings no doubt, but it is completely optional. Personally, I find games to be the most effective social lubricant trumping both food and alcohol.

[@dustinabc]

I grew up in Utah, where there was plenty of community events and parties with friends where alcohol wasn't even considered. Using alcohol as a crutch to reduce social anxiety creates greater social anxiety and dependence on the drug in the long run. The same goes for the other "advantages" here in the video. The same results can be achieved without alcohol or other substances by simply learning a few skills and techniques to reduce anxiety or increase creativity or whatever. That's not to say there's no use for such substances, just that the benefits need to be weighed against the risks.

[@soundknight]

It's also a social control tool in the English navy when they colonised the world and fought off Europe over the centuries.

[@Matts_Smirkingrevenge]

Hey! Where's the Tom Woods interview??? You guys released all the others from the LP piece but not that one... Come on man!!!

[@theTeslaFalcon]

If u can keep a child from smoking until they reach 18, the likelihood of them developing the habit drops drasticly. I grew up w no alcohol around. My parents didn't drink. None of my friends drank. I tried my first adult beverage ~30 yrs old. Sour. Bitter. Moldy. Nasty. Every person I've talked to about it has said that beer is an "aquired taste". They drank to be part of X company (friends, coworkers, relatives, etc) & grew to like it by association w that companionship. If I have to drink to be "friends" w you, we aren't friends.

[@Ninjaeule97]

I started drinking when I was 16 (its normal here in Germany). I eventually stopped because when I trew my housewarming party I was asked why the crate of beer was half empty if they were the first people visiting. I started again when I moved back to my father to save money while going to university. I previously worked for a pharmaceutical company but because of the poor planning of the company I saw 3 different departments before I couldn't find another job opening there. My father drinks at least one beer every day so it's impossible not to be confronted with alcohol. I eventually switch to alcohol free beer because I didn't want to end up the same. I have convinced my father to at least drink one of the alcohol free beers, when eating and drinking with me. I never liked the taste of alcohol but I have to say a good alcohol free beer tastes great. I assume it's the same as with dark chocolate, chili peppers, Brussel sprouts, tee or real French cheese. At first they are bitter and/or unpleasant but once you get used to the extreme taste you will find other aromas that are actually pleasant.

[@theTeslaFalcon]

@@Ninjaeule97 My dad visited Germany w the USAF in the 1950s. On base, the water was good, & soft drinks were available. In town, the water was undrinkable, & no soft drinks were available. When he wanted an authentic German meal, his options in town were numerous beers or nothing. He ordered one & barely drank 1/5th of it before he was done. His only beer consumption. After his first experience, he brought his own canned soda from base. Alcohol has some positive healty effects, esp in purifying poor water, similar to pickling foods for preservation. (Ever tried saurkraut on pizza? Yum!) It's understandable why it's ingrained so deeply in German culture. Individual levels of alcoholism range from psychological reasons including addiction to physiological reasons. I put an apple on my dashboard to bake in a bowl while I went into the store. When I came back, it was hot & mushy. Delcious. I tried it again when I got home but forgot about it until Monday. Cold. Mushy. Moldy. Sour. Apple ale smells just like that rotten apple. I had a buncu of grapes that got forgotten in the car. Moldy & sour. Every wine I've tried smells just like those moldy grapes. Sip 1. No sip 2.

[@Ninjaeule97]

@@theTeslaFalcon I can assure your that nowadays our water is clean enough that you can drink from pretty much any sink that's clean. Of course there is still old pipes in some houses but as far as I know we don't have a Flint situation here. Population density in Germany is pretty high so there aren't that many dead spots unless you go camping. 1950 is ~50 years from when I was born. I am pretty sure that nowadays you can get a German meal in every town. I would stay away from booze that smells or tastes moldy, sour or yeasty is fine. But maybe some people like moldy tasting drinks. I heared Hershey still add a compound that is also found in puke to their chocolate, because it was produced from an old milk pasture process they used and now people have been so gotten used to the puke flavor that they would miss it. In Frankfurt Äpfelwein (Apple wine) is pretty popular as is wine. I never liked anything with a alcohol content higher than 5% (the standard beer) because I can taste the alcohol i.e. the burning sensation in my throat. Usually you delude the Äpfelwein with either sparkeling water or lemonade then it's pretty much the same as beer. When I drink alcohol it's usually within a social setting and it happens so rarely and I drink so little that I am sure my liver will regenerate easily. A Italian would probably nail you to a cross for putting Sauerkraut on pizza but I know a Sauerkraut pasta casserole recipe that sound awful if you never tried it but actually tastes really good.

[@theTeslaFalcon]

@@Ninjaeule97 Germany was still recovering from WWII which ended ~5 years before he arrived. Dad was 15 on VE Day. Not a lot of normal stuff was working then. Plastics hadn't even taken off yet. If there's any hiccup in normal water service here, they put out a boil warning. The Flint, MI water issue has a lot of interesting details. Are you familiar w it or just using it as a general example of bad city water?

[@Ninjaeule97]

@@theTeslaFalcon Makes sense. War has a devastating effect on human development. Even if you win a war, you destroyed so much infrastructure that you also have to spend a lot just to rebuild everything. So thanks for for the Marshall Plan, we really appreciate it. I heared about Flint MI on YT. The internet truly is a great place to find information. I don't remember the exact details but I heared that the main issue was poor planning/communication. There was a way to get clean drinking water from Detroit or some other place and it wouldn't have cost more but for some reason they instead reopen some old route with lead pipes that was closed down decades ago.

[@staubach1979rt]

1. Why do I need subtitles just to hear this guy? 2. I have a hard time paying attention to people who wear those douchey white things in their ears.

[@krazykkarl]

3. Why did reason feel the need to even post this? 4. Is this an interview or just some guy's video diary?

[@staubach1979rt]

@@krazykkarl 5. I want a beer. Immediately.

[@dnalur]

I'll drink to that!

[@duanegrindstaff9635]

Alcohol is the most dangerous, most harmful drug on the market.

[@YSLRD]

Lol. Animals often get drunk on fermented fruit. Everything from rodents to deer to apes to birds will load up if the opportunity presents. Humans are just smart enough to master the process. Nothing magic involved. This thing is ludicrous.

[@ffn8917]

Wow

[@remyllebeau77]

I just wish we could have foods that taste good without also having a downside. And why can't medical science come up with safe NSAIDS?

[@-whackd]

You don't like the taste of steak or salmon?

[@remyllebeau77]

@@-whackd I know there are plenty of relatively healthy foods that also taste good. I'm speaking more about foods or drinks that have a known downside like alcohol, ice cream, pizza, soda, etc etc.

[@RileyHell]

surprised peter suderman isnt part of this video lol

[@andrewtuttle9682]

Im just here for the comments 😂 cheers fellas 🍻

[@davidbowick7830]

"Primate relatives..." 😂 What a load of crap they have taught us in school.

[@medianmack]

yeah what you say that's it I love you man I love all of you

[@MattRolls5280]

Corn wasn't the best crop for yield of grains to eat, so cLeArLy they grew cultivated it solely based on its ability to produce an alcoholic beverage.

[@fortusvictus8297]

Yeah, not to stave off the waves of mass starvation and winter famines that devastated pre-modern societies every few years...it can't be that. It has to be for booze.

[@MattRolls5280]

@@fortusvictus8297 or the possibility that primitive people may have thought it had medicinal benefits or was resilient to a pest. No no no. Booze.

[@krazykkarl]

Livestock

[@kylebarton778]

I'll drink to that.

[@garyphares3751]

I dunno. I've always heard that when a group of people drink, they start a fight. But when they smoke pot, they start a band.

[@nilesmouser6670]

Interesting speculation.

[@butter_nut1817]

Two glasses of wine hurts no one and is a really good time with friends.

[@jacobawojtowicz]

Two glasses of wine could hurt someone though?

[@metalman_j]

@@jacobawojtowicz Only if you have a liver disorder or alcohol allergy.

[@itsmatt2105]

I don't buy much of anything he's saying. Drugs are mostly a lazy person's short cut to the pleasurable state otherwise produced through effort.

[@spicyginger4289]

If adult humans frontal lobe is to dominant why haven’t we evolved to have it a less major part of our brain. Reason tv is a good channel but they have a clear bias towards drugs. This video and on about a dude who takes heroin responsibility are great examples of truth but wrong conclusions. Yes there are people who take heroin and hold day jobs but there are a lot more who are on the streets and committing real crimes to feed there addiction and saying here is one good example so we should make hard drugs legal(I believe we should). Let’s be honest the majority of people who take heroin do not get a benefit from it and same with alcohol. For starters even moderate alcohol consumption is bad for the body(it’s literal poison) and sure alcohol can have frontal lobe mulling effects( if that is so important why didn’t we evolve to have smaller less powerful frontal lobes) but the majority of people who drink are either 1 binge drinking has pretty much none of the positive effects this video mentioned and 2 having a drink of 2 to relax and destress which sur did good but doesn’t actually fox the source of the stress.

[@smicksmookety]

I don't drink, dude.

[@UnluckyFatGuy]

Got a Bud light and before this

[@quintessenceSL]

Separating libertarians from conservatives cosplaying.

[@actualnotanewbie]

YES YES YES ANOTHER REASON VIDEO WITH LEX VILLENA 👐🏾👐🏾👐🏾

[@jamiejefferson2929]

The human rights charter should include the right to get high and drunk ....