The Case for Icon Veneration: Gavin's use of the Church Fathers (Part Two)

[@shayneswenson]

These are great. Thanks for taking the time to do these.

[@kimnguyen-bd6yp]

I hope your videos reach more people so they can understand and have faith in the Catholic Church more, rather than being mislead by Protestant and evangelical circles.

[@AnselmInstitute]

This is so well done. I hope you publish on this.

[@halleylujah247]

This is great.

[@sethmurray948]

So, Gavin's general point seems to be that not only was icon veneration absent in the first decades and centuries of Christianity, but icons themselves are conspicuously absent. Further, N2 doesn't merely encourage icons for instructive use, but mandates icon veneration under the penalty of anathema/excommunication. Therefore, N2 is not merely an organic development, but actually constitutes a kind of reversal regarding early Christian practice. You seem to be attempting to correct or "rebut" him. So, are you attempting to imply that icon veneration was normative or even mandated in the first decades and centuries of Christianity? If not, exactly what is your point?

[@giuseppe.carioti]

Suan, I admire you very much and you helped me a lot with my theological researches. Personally (maybe I'm wrong) I see it very very very simple (as well as all the doctrines of our Catholic faith). If the veneration of icons is wrong, and icons were venerated - unanimously, above all thanks to John Damascene and the Second Council of Nicaea - in the Church until 1517 (and still today, of course), it means that the Lord Jesus left his Church in idolatry until a homocide, heretic, schismatic, suicidal and damned revolutionary (and not a reformer), who created a God that suited him, said the opposite? This is nonsense!