The Catholic Church: Masterpiece Of Deception (REBUTTED) - Part 2

[@groatswerth2073]

Josh claims the Catholic Church teaches lies while he misrepresents Catholic teaching. When I was an Evangelical, this tactic actually pushed me toward the Catholic Church.

[@Defender_of_Faith]

What's the quote? Very few people hate the Catholics Church. Millions of people hate what they believe the Catholic Church is.

[@markbirmingham6011]

Trent horn reminds me of every kid my mother wanted me to befriend growing up, but didn't. Now at 37 I'm finally realizing how much better I'd been for it had heeded her advice. Keep up the great work. Grateful to live at a time when your work is so accessible.

[@JohnVianneyPatron]

At 37 there are still other Trent Horns looking for sincere friendships!

[@EternalSeraphim73]

@@JohnVianneyPatron37 year old here.

[@Hawka23]

Quickly becoming the most stated Catholic comment regarding Protestant videos: "Has Trent Horn seen this yet?" Love your work Trent.

[@darrelldw713]

He certainly should if he hasn't yet. Since the meaning and correct interpretation of Scripture is not something self-evident (hence over 30,000 heretical Protestant sects -- these days more indulgently called "denominations"), the teaching of the Church Fathers is important in defending the Catholic faith. Everything they write and preach is what the Catholic Church teaches, at least in its traditional or pre-Vatican II teachings, as can be seen here, for example: amazon.com/Writings-Church-Fathers-According-Topic-ebook/dp/B07D63859M/ref=sr_1_1

[@queenofhearts7726]

Aubrey Shatner your history is flawed. The Catholic Church is the Church Jesus established with the Apostles, with Peter being the “head” or leader of the Apostles. The first time the church was called Catholic (that has been documented) was in 107 ad by Ignatius of Antioch: The Greek root of the term catholic means "according to the whole" or "universal." Ignatius uses the term to refer to the visible and authoritative Church: "See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is administered either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude of the people also be; even as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." -Letter to the Smyrnaeans, Ch 8 www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/apologetics-with-st-ignatius-of-antioch (I site my sources.) Earlier than that, we have Pope Clement I writing with regard to apostolic succession, including bishops and priests in the year 80 ad: "Through countryside and city [the apostles] preached, and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers. Nor was this a novelty, for bishops and deacons had been written about a long time earlier. . . . Our apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect foreknowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned and afterwards added the further provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry" (Letter to the Corinthians 42:4-5, 44:1-3 [A.D. 80]). www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/successors-of-the-apostles I would suggest that you read the Early Church Fathers who knew the apostles or direct successors to them. An excellent book on the subject is Jimmy Akin’s The Fathers Know Best in where he quotes from them by subject and explains a bit, too. You can also read what the Early Church Fathers wrote at www.newadvent.org/fathers/ You might also read the Didache which is one of the earliest versions of the Catechism and instructs the bishops and priests on how to practice the faith and teach it. It dates to the late first century as the church was beginning its expansion. www.thedidache.com You can also buy the Didache in book form on Amazon either in Kindle or hard copy withe the original Greek text, English translation, Analysis and Commentary. www.amazon.com/Didache-Text-Translation-Analysis-Commentary-ebook/dp/B01HXSAP42/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=Didache&qid=1596483506&sr=8-6 I would think the book should interest you since you claim to be a Greek and Hebrew “scholar”.

[@queenofhearts7726]

Aubrey Shatner Constantine did NOT recognize the Catholic Church as the “state religion”. He only made it legal to practice the Catholic Faith. It did not become the “state religion” until after Constantine died. You have been immersed in Protestant propaganda.

[@queenofhearts7726]

Aubrey Shatner you changed the subject, dear. Sounds to me like you are Seventh Day Adventist... your arguments don’t hold water, sorry.

[@queenofhearts7726]

Aubrey Shatner again changing the subject and repeating protestant propaganda.

[@VirgoBirrane]

I think it's funny that we watch Josh doing this dramatic pause after making, what he thinks is, a devastating point only to see Trent's face like "I am not impressed by your performance..." 😂

[@stephensuttles6913]

Not being impressed does not make him correct.

[@ServusDei34]

@@stephensuttles6913I guess you didn’t watch the video.

[@davido3026]

​@stephensuttles6913 your stoopidity makes you stoopid!

[@davido3026]

​@stephensuttles6913 your stoopidity makes you stoopid!

[@deanphilipsaunders775]

I feel sad for Josh. It must be hard to be on the outside of the Church and try to valid that position through error and subjectivity. God bless the Catholic Church.

[@filiusvivam4315]

So true. I pray for Josh's conversion.

[@graceambassador65]

Grace And Peace, friends… "error and subjectivity" {religion?}, then *Truth And* *Objectivity Would then be to "study God's WORD Of Truth Rightly Divided!"* Correct? *And, Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed And Encouraged!:* Part 1 *Approval Unto God!:* *Grace And Peace From God, The Father, And From* *The LORD And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST!* *LORD JESUS, Before you Come To Gather us Home To Heaven, Please* *Grant Thy Divine Help to understand Thy Word Of Truth, Rightly* *Divided!"* Amen: *What Would God, In HIS Age Of GRACE Today, Have* us Also "DO," that was *"learned, and received, and heard, and seen, In Paul"* ? *(Philippians 4 : 9!)* *"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, a workman That* *Needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!"* *(2 Timothy 2 : 15!)* *_"Example"_** Of Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!:* *Leaders/Numbers / Salvation/Commissions* in: *God's TWO **_"Different"_** Programs:* (1) _Representative_ apostles + number! For: *God’s LAW/PROPHETIC* Program: *“prophesied since the world began!”* (Luke 1 : 68-70; Acts 3 : 21!): God’s Complete Number TWELVE “represents:” TWELVE baptismS, TWELVE apostles who will rule in the "Prophesied" kingdom With CHRIST!, on TWELVE thrones, Over the TWELVE tribes of Israel! (Genesis 49 : 28; Isaiah 9 : 7, 32 : 1; Matthew 19 : 28; Luke 22 : 30; James 1 : 1!) *gospel of the kingdom!:* Salvation = "he that believeth *AND is baptized* Shall Be SAVED!" (Mark 16 : 16 cp *Luke 7 : 29-30;* Acts 2 : 38; James 2 : 17-18!) And _Includes_ *The LORD’s FIVE-Part Marching Orders,* the so-called ( added as a “Page Header” in *Bibles* ), “Great Commission”: (1a): *“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in The Name* *Of The Father, and Of The SON, and of The Holy Ghost: Teaching* *them to Observe ALL Things Whatsoever I Have Commanded you:* *and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen!”* _ (Matthew 28 : 19-20!) _Including:_ *“Observe ALL things WHATSOEVER I Have* *COMMANDED you!”:* *“Then Spake JESUS To the multitude, And To HIS disciples,* *Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:* *ALL therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that OBSERVE* *AND DO; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not!”* (Matthew 23 : 1-3!) (1b): *“And HE Said Unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the* *gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall* *be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these* *signs shall follow them that believe: In MY Name shall they cast out* *devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents;* - *and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they* *shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover…. And they went* *forth, and preached every where, The LORD Working With them, and* *Confirming The Word With signs following. Amen!”* (Mark 16 : 15-20!) (1c): *“And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in* *HIS Name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are* *witnesses of these things. And, behold, I Send The Promise of MY* *Father Upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be* *endued with Power From On High!”* (Luke 24 : 47-49!) (1d): *“Then Said JESUS To them again, Peace Be Unto you: As MY Father* *Hath Sent ME, Even So Send I you. And When HE Had Said This, HE* *Breathed On them, And Saith Unto them, Receive ye The Holy Ghost:* *Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and* *whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained!”* (John 20 : 21-23!) (1e): *“But ye shall receive power, after that The Holy Ghost Is Come Upon you:* *and ye shall be witnesses unto ME both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea,* *and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth!”* (Acts 1 : 8!) End of: Salvation / Commission In *God's "Law/Prophetic Program!"* continued in *Part 2: Approval Unto God!...*

[@graceambassador65]

Part 2 *Approval Unto God!:* Previous "study!:" Salvation / Commission In *God's "Law/Prophetic Program!"* {friend, do you "think" this is for you "Today"?} *Or...* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From *CHRIST To HIS TWELVE,* _on the earth!_ { _Currently_ “On HOLD!” } *Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!) From **_“Things That DIFFER!”:_* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *...Is This FOR us Today?:* *From CHRIST To HIS ONE, **_From Heaven!!_** { **_Currently_** ACTIVE!}* *God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS "Revelation Of The MYSTERY!"* *God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose BEFORE “the foundation of the world”* *(Ephesians 1 : 4!)* *Kept Secret “since the world began”* *(Romans 16 : 25; Ephesians 1 : 4-11, 3 : 5-9!)* *(2) **_Representative_** apostle + number! For:* *God’s Revelation Of GRACE In HIS MYSTERY,* *From CHRIST, **_In Heaven,_** To...* { Friend, IF you have NEVER prayerfully/carefully “studied” *This Important Doctrine ( Paul’s **_“Distinctive”_** ministry From God! )* before, Please take some time for *”Approval Unto God!,”* Please? } *...Paul, Chosen By God, as ONE individual apostle,* *BOTH Roman and Hebrew,* *(Acts 9 : 6, 15, 13 : 2, 20 : 24, 22 : 1-15, 21, 25-28, 26 : 17-18;* *Philippians 3 : 5; Romans 1 : 1, 11 : 13, 15 : 16-18;* *Galatians 1 : 15, 2 : 7-8; Ephesians 3 : 1; 1 Timothy 1 : 11, 2 : 7;* *2 Timothy 1 : 11!), **_represents:_* *Reconciliation, By GRACE (2 Corinthians 5 : 17-6 : 2!), of* *BOTH Jew and Gentile, as “INDIVIDUALS,” Into “ONE New Man!”* *(Ephesians 2 : 15-16!)* *SPIRITUALLY Baptized ( And "Spiritually United as* *_members of one another!"_** ), BY: ONE Baptism!* *(1 Corinthians 12 : 13 cp Ephesians 4 : 5, 5 : 30 KJB!), Into:* *ONE Body, In HEAVEN!,* ... ... *[ By The DEADLY, But Amazingly Wonderful CROSS! ] Of CHRIST,* *The Risen And Glorified SAVIOUR, The **_Only_** HEAD Of HIS Church!!* *(1 Timothy 3 : 16; Ephesians 1 : 22, 5 : 23; Colossians 1 : 18 KJB!)* *Praise HIS Precious NAME!* Amen? *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!:* *“For I [ Paul! ] delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received,* *How That CHRIST Died For our sins According To The Scriptures;* *And That HE Was Buried, And That HE Rose Again the third day* *According To The Scriptures!” (1 Corinthians 15 : 3-4!)* + *"For By GRACE are ye SAVED Through faith; and that not of yourselves:* *It Is The Gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast!"* *( Ephesians 2 : 8-9! cp Most of Romans through Philemon! # )* *{ GRACE **_Found_** 85 Times! }* *And, The MYSTERY **_Includes_** The LORD’s "Greater" GRACE Commission! =* *Ministry of RECONCILIATION!* *"And all things are of God, Who Hath Reconciled us To Himself By* *JESUS CHRIST, And Hath Given To us the ministry of reconciliation;* *to wit, That God Was In CHRIST, Reconciling the world Unto Himself,* *Not Imputing their trespasses unto them; And Hath Committed Unto us* *The Word Of Reconciliation!* *Now then we are ambassadors for CHRIST, as though God Did Beseech* *you by us: we pray you in CHRIST’s Stead, be ye reconciled to God! For* *HE Hath Made HIM To Be sin For us, WHO Knew no sin; that we might Be* *Made The Righteousness Of God In HIM!* *We then, as workers together with HIM, beseech you also that ye receive* *not The GRACE Of God in vain! (For HE Saith, I Have Heard thee in a time* *accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now* *is the accepted time; behold, NOW IS THE DAY OF SALVATION!!)”* *(2 Corinthians 5 : 18-6 : 2!)* End: *God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS Revelation Of The MYSTERY!* *# Romans - Philemon = God's GRACE Love Letters For us **_Today_** For:* *Consolation, Comfort, Edification, Enjoyment, Encouragement, And* *_spiritual_** Building Up Of All The BLOOD-Washed "members ( saints!" )* *In The Body Of CHRIST!, HIS Church, Seated In **_Heaven!_* Amen? Friends, after “comparing” Law vs *GRACE!* Which is FOR us Today? Or: Are they BOTH FOR us, today, in which case we ask: ALL The "NUMBERS experts" know there is A Vast "Difference" Between 12 And *"ONE,"* Correct? Would not “Choosing” BOTH Make This Fatal ERROR, & we can just stay with the "Modern" "wonderful And marvelous" 2000-year-old judeo/christian "combo": (1) LAW + *(2) GRACE* = (3) "religious Confusion Of Contradictions" { or, "Pick & Choose!" } Method… ..."remaining" as: a weak And _Severely Divided_ *Church, Displeasing God!,* Correct? Friends, "which" of these "gospels" do "you Believe," In *God’s Age* *Of GRACE "Today," Are CURSED By God! (Galatians 1 : 6-9!)?* *(2) Gospel of GRACE!* || (1) gospel of the kingdom, (3) “Combo gospel” IF your "particular" group "subscribes" to (1) OR (3), Please, *Obey God, As HE "Beseeches"!:* *"Wherefore Come Out from among them, and be ye Separate,* *Saith The LORD, And touch not the unclean [ ACCURSED!? ]* *thing; and I Will Receive you, And Will Be A Father Unto you,* *And ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters, Saith The LORD Almighty!"* *(2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)* ----------------------------------------------- *LORD JESUS, we humbly pray that Any And ALL confused over the* *"Division of Many Over salvation/baptismS/commissionS,” have been* *Truly Blessed With This **_Solving The Confusion_** study! Amen.* ----------------------------------------------- *GRACE/Repentance, Through Faith, & PEACE, Found In SCRIPTURE,* *to The Honor And GLORY Of GOD, The Father, Through The LORD And* *SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST!* Amen? Concluding questions: (1) Friend(s), Do you believe you are *"Approved Unto God"? (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!)* (2) Do you believe you should _Turn Away_ *FROM God’s “Chosen” Apostle* *Of HIS PURE GRACE?:* *"This thou knowest, that ALL THEY WHICH ARE IN ASIA TURNED AWAY* *From me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes." (2 Timothy 1 : 15 KJB!)* ------------------------------- Again, friend(s), *Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed In God’s WORD Of Truth, Rightly* *Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!)* brother Chris PS: What think ye?: *"Solves* _ALL "religious" Confusion"?_ = *NO "Other" Doctrine Than "Right Division!"* {Perchance Disobedience to *THIS **_"Sound_** Doctrine" Of God!* is _The Cause_ Of ALL Of The "Controversial/Contradictory/Confusing/DIVIDING" Issues? }: www.bereanbiblesociety.org/no-other-doctrine-but-right-division/?Berean+Bible+Society&SEARCHLIGHT& Friend, are you *"Approved Unto God"?* or, Are you *"Grieving HIS Spirit"?*

[@dieselcowboy777]

Actually that is what apostate catholics do constantly repeat their error over and over brainwashing you to think their errors are truth hogwash

[@deanphilipsaunders775]

@@dieselcowboy777 Yes indeed. When one understands how the bible came to be, and how the apostles taught Christ's message, we begin to understand the historical, contextual and biblical unity of His church. The richness and fullness of faith in the Catholic Church is simply breathtaking.

[@jonmkl]

I was incredibly uncomfortable when he was talking about Jesus killing himself and being cannibalized by his apostles. I not even RC but no one should talk about the blessed sacrament with such derision.

[@lonelyberg1808]

You're right

[@jon6car]

He mentions St. Ignatius without reading his letters. This Josh fellow should make it a point to read Ignatius' letter to the Smyrnaens. And read specifically the chapters about the Eucharist

[@Michael-bk5nz]

I'm surprised Trent didn't mention that the charge of cannibalism was made against the early Church by the pagans, which suggests that Christians have always believed this

[@theo-dr2dz]

Joe Heschmeyer of the shameless popery channel has a nice one on this. He points out that His audience was exactly thinking about cannibalism when Jesus talked about eating His flesh, and many left in disgust. This teaching is shocking. Joe states that if your belief on the eucharist can not be mistaken for cannibalism, your belief on the eucharist is wrong.

[@pokezeldamaster39]

I understand the backlash this person gets but we need to make it constructive and charitable. The best thing we can do now is pray for this person.

[@SolarJord]

Amen

[@rosiegirl2485]

Trent is being very constructive...not to mention, more charitable then most! He is schooling us with not only what The Church teaches...but how to answer in a very charitable way...which we all can benefit by! God bless you my friend! ⚘️

[@The_Catholic_Christian]

Trent, you’re one of few apologists without books in the background of your videos. There is no duplicity in you.

[@francisfurtado6297]

Not good acting at all . Both are cartoons.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

He has a 12 pin parallel port in the back of his neck where he uploads information. His model number is APOLOGISBOT 9000.

[@graceambassador65]

Part 2 *Approval Unto God!:* Previous "study!:" Salvation / Commission In *God's "Law/Prophetic Program!"* {friend, do you "think" this is for you "Today"?} *Or...* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From *CHRIST To HIS TWELVE,* _on the earth!_ { _Currently_ “On HOLD!” } *Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!) From **_“Things That DIFFER!”:_* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *...Is This FOR us Today?:* *From CHRIST To HIS ONE, **_From Heaven!!_** { **_Currently_** ACTIVE!}* *God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS "Revelation Of The MYSTERY!"* *God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose BEFORE “the foundation of the world”* *(Ephesians 1 : 4!)* *Kept Secret “since the world began”* *(Romans 16 : 25; Ephesians 1 : 4-11, 3 : 5-9!)* *(2) **_Representative_** apostle + number! For:* *God’s Revelation Of GRACE In HIS MYSTERY,* *From CHRIST, **_In Heaven,_** To...* { Friend, IF you have NEVER prayerfully/carefully “studied” *This Important Doctrine ( Paul’s **_“Distinctive”_** ministry From God! )* before, Please take some time for *”Approval Unto God!,”* Please? } *...Paul, Chosen By God, as ONE individual apostle,* *BOTH Roman and Hebrew,* *(Acts 9 : 6, 15, 13 : 2, 20 : 24, 22 : 1-15, 21, 25-28, 26 : 17-18;* *Philippians 3 : 5; Romans 1 : 1, 11 : 13, 15 : 16-18;* *Galatians 1 : 15, 2 : 7-8; Ephesians 3 : 1; 1 Timothy 1 : 11, 2 : 7;* *2 Timothy 1 : 11!), **_represents:_* *Reconciliation, By GRACE (2 Corinthians 5 : 17-6 : 2!), of* *BOTH Jew and Gentile, as “INDIVIDUALS,” Into “ONE New Man!”* *(Ephesians 2 : 15-16!)* *SPIRITUALLY Baptized ( And "Spiritually United as* *_members of one another!"_** ), BY: ONE Baptism!* *(1 Corinthians 12 : 13 cp Ephesians 4 : 5, 5 : 30 KJB!), Into:* *ONE Body, In HEAVEN!,* ... ... *[ By The DEADLY, But Amazingly Wonderful CROSS! ] Of CHRIST,* *The Risen And Glorified SAVIOUR, The **_Only_** HEAD Of HIS Church!!* *(1 Timothy 3 : 16; Ephesians 1 : 22, 5 : 23; Colossians 1 : 18 KJB!)* *Praise HIS Precious NAME!* Amen? *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!:* *“For I [ Paul! ] delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received,* *How That CHRIST Died For our sins According To The Scriptures;* *And That HE Was Buried, And That HE Rose Again the third day* *According To The Scriptures!” (1 Corinthians 15 : 3-4!)* + *"For By GRACE are ye SAVED Through faith; and that not of yourselves:* *It Is The Gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast!"* *( Ephesians 2 : 8-9! cp Most of Romans through Philemon! # )* *{ GRACE **_Found_** 85 Times! }* *And, The MYSTERY **_Includes_** The LORD’s "Greater" GRACE Commission! =* *Ministry of RECONCILIATION!* *"And all things are of God, Who Hath Reconciled us To Himself By* *JESUS CHRIST, And Hath Given To us the ministry of reconciliation;* *to wit, That God Was In CHRIST, Reconciling the world Unto Himself,* *Not Imputing their trespasses unto them; And Hath Committed Unto us* *The Word Of Reconciliation!* *Now then we are ambassadors for CHRIST, as though God Did Beseech* *you by us: we pray you in CHRIST’s Stead, be ye reconciled to God! For* *HE Hath Made HIM To Be sin For us, WHO Knew no sin; that we might Be* *Made The Righteousness Of God In HIM!* *We then, as workers together with HIM, beseech you also that ye receive* *not The GRACE Of God in vain! (For HE Saith, I Have Heard thee in a time* *accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now* *is the accepted time; behold, NOW IS THE DAY OF SALVATION!!)”* *(2 Corinthians 5 : 18-6 : 2!)* End: *God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS Revelation Of The MYSTERY!* *# Romans - Philemon = God's GRACE Love Letters For us **_Today_** For:* *Consolation, Comfort, Edification, Enjoyment, Encouragement, And* *_spiritual_** Building Up Of All The BLOOD-Washed "members ( saints!" )* *In The Body Of CHRIST!, HIS Church, Seated In **_Heaven!_* Amen? Friends, after “comparing” Law vs *GRACE!* Which is FOR us Today? Or: Are they BOTH FOR us, today, in which case we ask: ALL The "NUMBERS experts" know there is A Vast "Difference" Between 12 And *"ONE,"* Correct? Would not “Choosing” BOTH Make This Fatal ERROR, & we can just stay with the "Modern" "wonderful And marvelous" 2000-year-old judeo/christian "combo": (1) LAW + *(2) GRACE* = (3) "religious Confusion Of Contradictions" { or, "Pick & Choose!" } Method… ..."remaining" as: a weak And _Severely Divided_ *Church, Displeasing God!,* Correct? Friends, "which" of these "gospels" do "you Believe," In *God’s Age* *Of GRACE "Today," Are CURSED By God! (Galatians 1 : 6-9!)?* *(2) Gospel of GRACE!* || (1) gospel of the kingdom, (3) “Combo gospel” IF your "particular" group "subscribes" to (1) OR (3), Please, *Obey God, As HE "Beseeches"!:* *"Wherefore Come Out from among them, and be ye Separate,* *Saith The LORD, And touch not the unclean [ ACCURSED!? ]* *thing; and I Will Receive you, And Will Be A Father Unto you,* *And ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters, Saith The LORD Almighty!"* *(2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)* ----------------------------------------------- *LORD JESUS, we humbly pray that Any And ALL confused over the* *"Division of Many Over salvation/baptismS/commissionS,” have been* *Truly Blessed With This **_Solving The Confusion_** study! Amen.* ----------------------------------------------- *GRACE/Repentance, Through Faith, & PEACE, Found In SCRIPTURE,* *to The Honor And GLORY Of GOD, The Father, Through The LORD And* *SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST!* Amen? Concluding questions: (1) Friend(s), Do you believe you are *"Approved Unto God"? (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!)* (2) Do you believe you should _Turn Away_ *FROM God’s “Chosen” Apostle* *Of HIS PURE GRACE?:* *"This thou knowest, that ALL THEY WHICH ARE IN ASIA TURNED AWAY* *From me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes." (2 Timothy 1 : 15 KJB!)* ------------------------------- Again, friend(s), *Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed In God’s WORD Of Truth, Rightly* *Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!)* brother Chris PS: What think ye?: *"Solves* _ALL "religious" Confusion"?_ = *NO "Other" Doctrine Than "Right Division!"* {Perchance Disobedience to *THIS **_"Sound_** Doctrine" Of God!* is _The Cause_ Of ALL Of The "Controversial/Contradictory/Confusing/DIVIDING" Issues? }: www.bereanbiblesociety.org/no-other-doctrine-but-right-division/?Berean+Bible+Society&SEARCHLIGHT& Friend, are you *"Approved Unto God"?* or, Are you *"Grieving HIS Spirit"?*

[@michaeljefferies2444]

His reliance on the catechism for his arguments shows a good method (“go to a catholic source to see what Catholics teach”) paired with a bad one (Interpret said catholic source based on your first assumption of the meaning independent of other catholic theologians and documents to provide context). This also displays the problem with sola scriptura. We need more context than just the isolated scriptures to discern their meaning in the same way that we need more context than the isolated catholic cathechism to discern its meaning.

[@hollygosser3754]

He must have gone to the Mike Winger school of interpreting the catechism.

[@dieselcowboy777]

No catholic bishop today has authority to bind or loose anything because none of them are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and therefore not born again... All the apostles were baptized in the name of Jesus Christ....

[@rooforlife]

@@dieselcowboy777 All Catholic are baptized according to Sacred Scripture. Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

[@dieselcowboy777]

@@rooforlife all catholics are baptized wrong because Jesus Christ didn't mean for you to be baptized in the trinity of titles....jesus christ wasn't speaking plainly in matthew 28:19....Jesus christ was speaking in a veiled way like he had many times b4......that's why the holy prophets peter and paul were divine interpreters of Matthew 28:19.... and they interpreted what jesus christ said to actually mean in the name of Jesus Christ..... That's why the true orthodox Christians always baptized in the name of Jesus Christ in the 1st 300 years.... It wasn't until the devils called Tertulian and hypolytus and origen of Alexandria in the 200s who started to twist it and brainwash people to accept their carnal minded idea taking jesus Christ's words literally

[@dieselcowboy777]

@@rooforlife all catholics are baptized in the trinity of titles and that is why all catholics are tares and not wheat.... The only thing that produces wheat is acts 2:38.....taking matthew 28:19 literally only produces tares in the field

[@victordoofilipe9002]

Trent is going straight to heaven on the mere ability to remain patient, clearly divinely bestowed upon him because there really is nothing worse than having to face up to ignorance coupled with arrogance.

[@blankmantm2501]

It also takes a lot to know somebody is very wrong, that you have the exact arguments to show that, and remain humble

[@miguelpasamano4995]

Trent is currently in communion with a millennium-long lineage of apostate AntiPopes thus outside the Ancient OrthoDox Church and I know many very patient schismatics, heretics, and apostates so his patience is but a false "sign" or "wonder" to deceive people into believing Roman "catholic" and Greek "orthodox" "sacraments" are valid when they're not.

[@SonOfThineHandmaid]

For real, I'm learning as much about patience and humility from Tent as I am about Catholicism. Such good stuff.

[@canadianmapleleaf7376]

People like you are what you get when people with monumental egos reject the basic child like tenets of the Christain faith for a religion formed on high minded pseudo profound arguments that sound intellectual and above on the surface to make your self look and appear intellegent to man.

[@JMJ.516]

I seriously do not know how to do it. I’d be screaming into my pillow every night.

[@Hawka23]

The closing comment: 'I pray there is something of benefit for you here'. There is.... I benefit from knowing I made the right choice, when I joined the Catholic Church.

[@ryandem2370]

Amen

[@faustinaobaro4650]

Welcome home!

[@museluvr]

Amen.

[@emilyburnett4935]

Amen

[@dieselcowboy777]

No you have made the wrong choice.... True roman Catholicism and the Greek orthodox represents Satan's kingdom on earth.... The dream of nebuchadnezzars which was interpreted by daniel shows the world would be represented by only 4 world empires....and rome is the 4th and final world empire.... However it wasn't pagan rome that split to form the 2 legs of the image....it was papal rome that split to form the 2 legs.... Roman Catholicism represents the western nations and Greek orthodox represents the eastern nations.... These 2 represent the 4th empire of Satan's kingdom or the roman empire which goes all the way until the end.... They have not lasted 2000 years because God is with them hogwash... they have lasted 2000 years representing Satan's 4th world empire because the prophecy said the 4th world empire goes all the way until the end..... They are the gates of hell who have always sought to destroy the Christian saints... When the bible says the world will hate you for my name's sake.....and these to satanic cults represent the entire world of the 4th world empire..... They hate the Christian Pentecostals who have and keep the revelation of water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ and reject these 2 satanic cults teaching of water baptism in the trinity of titles....

[@lyndavonkanel8603]

Josh is not only in error, he is belligerent, delivering his "message" with such anger. Why? I hope he listens carefully to Trent's corrections. Let us pray for Josh.

[@rosiegirl2485]

I totally agree with you...Josh's delivery is poor, and totally snarky! You can clearly hear that Trent is more schooled then Josh. I hope, for the sake of Josh's soul, that he not only sees Trent's rebuttal as a correction...but as clarity, and a true understanding of what the bible is saying! I would say that Trent washed the floor with him...but that wouldn't be a Christian response...🙉haha! God bless my friend! 💠

[@lyndavonkanel8603]

@@rosiegirl2485 I enjoyed reading your well thought out answer and agree, with some amusement about Trent "wiping up the floor.." , that we as Chrisrians need to respond charitably to misunderstandings. God bless you, too. And let's pray for those in error.

[@lenormand4967]

He is arrogant in his ignorance. And I think he's a hired to cause problems, not resolve them.

[@Dilley_G45]

If you want a good critique of this Josh Chavez guy, type "Josh chavez junior reviler" into the window...He is or used to represent a very very tiny sect called "Muriel Ministries" under "Jakob" Prasch, who faked Jewish ancestry. Chavez also tricked a woman into marriage and then dumped her after consummating it....yeah that's the kind of guy. Not representing ANY mainstream or even midsized church, he rather attacks EVERY EVERYONE except his own little sect as false.

[@teth-adam]

Why? Because he is ruled by pride.

[@cactoidjim1477]

"Jesus can't clone himself" Yeah...and you probably think the Feeding of the 5,000 was just because people were hungry. Or maybe it was figurative - because that's ridiculous! And let's just ride right past the part where you are an Authority to teach Scripture, even though millions of other Protestants would not recognize your authority, Josh.

[@rubenmartinez4346]

Ignorance of Catholicism is ignorance of Christ.

[@clarencemidford6266]

Yes I agree

[@johnfontenot7518]

Ignorance of the Bible is ignorance of Christ.Jesus said NOT to pray in vain repetition but Catholics refuse to believe Jesus.Purgatory is not Biblical.According to the Bible Unless your name is written in the lambs book of life you will not enter into heaven and you will be cast into the lake of fire. Jesus even said be glad that your names are written in the book of life. If you take the time to read Revelation 21 you will see about the great white throne judgment in the lambs book of life. No one can pray you into heaven. Purgatory is a false teaching that is deceiving many people.

[@johnfontenot7518]

Peter and the apostles were married so why aren’t Priests to marry? You cannot take a bottle of celibacy. Celibacy is a gift from God. Also Jesus said not to pray in vain repetition but Catholics do anyway refusing to believe Jesus. And purgatory is found nowhere in the Bible.Unless your name is written in the lambs book of life you will not enter into heaven. No one can pray you into the lambs book of life.

[@rubenmartinez4346]

@john fontenot hold your horses. Pick a topic and we will discuss it one by one and then I will debunk your false religion of Protestantism. What do you want to know first??

[@johnfontenot7518]

Ruben Martinez Pick a topic?I All the topics I presented are unbiblical.Its not that hard to discuss more than one topic,is it?

[@filiusvivam4315]

As someone who engages atheists and Protestants often I believe there are three types of each: the ignorant, the prideful, and the willfully ignorant and prideful. All these can be cured but it takes a healthy dollop of effort, humility, and (most importantly) the Holy Spirit.

[@canadianmapleleaf7376]

People like you are what you get when people with monumental egos reject the basic child like tenets of the Christain faith for a religion formed on high minded pseudo profound arguments that sound intellectual and above on the surface to make your self look and appear intellegent to man.

[@jimmys6566]

Catholics too can be ignorant (right to choose) and prideful and our pastors as a whole seem unwilling to correct us

[@VinnyZoomer]

@@canadianmapleleaf7376 Julian, please consider actually interacting with the arguments presented in the video instead of brushing them off because you don't understand them. They're not pseudo-intellectual, they're just rational ideas. Id recommend sticking with the NightFort for a while.

[@stooch66]

The Pride it takes to believe that you have figured out how the Church is wrong....after a million others with greater credentials have tried and fallen short. God bless him.

[@MrEvoXI]

Keep up the great work! 👍 hope you can debate James White again. I have you to thank for pulling me out of his camp.

[@dieselcowboy777]

You mean kerp up the insanity......using catholic lies to come against and rebut Christian truths so you remain brainwashed to the same catholic lies

[@ramizyono264]

@@dieselcowboy777 interesting, why were protestant “truths” not present until 500 years ago

[@dieselcowboy777]

@@ramizyono264 Catholicism has been killing and destroying protestants since the catholic cult was formed at the nicene council in 325 Ad.... Probably because the catholic church destroyed and burned them

[@ramizyono264]

@@dieselcowboy777 another interesting point, because from reading history, dont see one protestant reformer mentioned nor any of the heretical doctorines protestants teach. I can tell you I see plenty of Saints and Catholics were killed though for their faith. Reading anything related to Christianity from 1st century to now all point to Catholic doctorines and mention Catholic church.

[@dieselcowboy777]

@@ramizyono264 because you can only read the lies that Catholicism wrote in history

[@christinetuthill8249]

Trent...you are so very patient...

[@junelledembroski9183]

I was getting so flustered listening to this guy insult Jesus. I know Jesus doesn’t need me to defend him, but I really want to slap this Josh guy.

[@jimmydavid1993]

This is the whole reason I was here, Trent Patience with intellectually dishonest or arrogant preacher or deficient thinkers is one thing I pray I can have... People like this guy make me so tired of protestant.

[@tysonguess]

I basically check every day for new rebuttal videos. Love your work Trent.

[@OHMar711]

Josh is quick and sharp, but much anger. I don't understand that. Trent quick, sharp, and evenly tempered. Thank you Trent.

[@ankolsiopon8359]

My wife after watching this rebuttal: "Our new baby boy's name will be Trent not Josh." Me: Approved...

[@josecesena5630]

Trent! Oh poor baby please don't do this.

[@loretomorales4629]

Hahaha. Humorous comment. Trent indeed demonstrated adequate knowledge about the Church faith. God bless you Bro and your family

[@gedat5538]

After changing the name of Simon to Keffas (Peter), he is given the Keys of the Kingdom (Mt. 16:19). When a king gives the Keys of his kingdom, he is appointing him as the second in command to use his authority when the king is absent. Jesus give the keys only to Peter, not to the other Apostles. Change of name and the power of keys establishes the leadership of Peter over the other Apostles.

[@thuscomeguerriero]

I have a couple of questions please. If it is so that Peter was given primacy in Mat. 16 why is it that Luke tells us that their was LITERALLY an argument between the disciples on their way to Jerusalem who among them would be greatest? I simply cannot reconcile in my mind the idea that Mat.16 gives Peter primacy while Luke tells us there was a dispute about this very thing. 2ndly..it is often said that St Mark the author of the gospel of Mark was a traveling companion of St. Peter. Apologists will often use this personal relationship Mark had with Peter to lend further strength and validity to his gospel rendition. Ok..why is it that Mark, the companion of St. Peter, when recording this event of Peter's confession fails to say anything about Peter's being the rock, having been given the keys to the kingdom, and power to bind and loose? If ANYONE!!! knew this story it would be St. Mark wouldn't it? How can he be a companion of Peter's and NOT know this story? Bless

[@thuscomeguerriero]

@P K Actually, I think you are understating the importance of Mark's rendition of the event. The event is a milestone in the gospel narrative. The idea that Mark could know this story and not record is simply not believable. It is here we are introduced to the concept of the church and the primacy of one given authority to act on our Lord's behalf uniquely. How could Mark NOT record this event? Surely he would have expirienced Peter's unique status in the church being his traveling companion. He would have either heard this story from Peter himself, another, or would certainly if nothing else asked how this came to be so. I think its an important question. If Mat 16 says what our Roman Catholic friends say it does then there are few passages in Marks gospel which rival its importance. No my friend. I'm not saying its a game changer. But it is fair point which may give us insight into a diversity of opinion in the early Church as reflected in the gospels.

[@thuscomeguerriero]

@P K Its funny..I haven't even watched the video yet. I just saw your post and thot I'd ask. I do come from a protestant backround. But I'm teachable. I havent even come close to making up my mind on the subject. For myself I think its more important to God what it is we do rather than the content of our thots So when I seek out answers to these questions I get this image of a bunch of egg heads (myself included) who while debating points of doctrine are blind to the suffering of those all around us and do little to nothing to alleviate their misery. But, I concede it is a question that must needs be answered..Church authority. Let's do something tomorrow for someone in need, maybe the poor..something for someone. Let's think of at least one thing each day that we can do to help someone concretely. I'm open to suggestions. Bless

[@productiontest]

@@thuscomeguerriero Well Peter was a man of humility, so everyone at that time knew the story of him being given the keys considered him as chief, so by not mentioning it he was not exalting himself (may be) but the subsequent gospel identified this omission and added on. Same reason the letter from Peter not say "I the chief of Apostles. Another one for you to consider is from Jimmy Akin kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWa5hKlngdh0o8k

[@thuscomeguerriero]

@@productiontest I want to be clear my friend. Peter may well be what the Roman Catholic Church says he is. If he is and Rome is the seat of Peter to be handed down then God be praised. I myself am really just recently looking into Church history outside the Bible. The only thing that truly I am not negotiable on is the ressurection of our Lord. As for Mark's gospel and the point I raised I think its a legitimate one. I don't agree that Peter's humility would have any bearing on Mark's gospel. I find it extraordinarily difficult to believe that Mark would not record this event if he were aware of it. His traditionally being the traveling companion of Peter makes it likewise hard to see how he could NOT know this. Now, I should say at the outset that I don't believe the NT documents as divinely inspired. So, problems from book to book are not problematic for my faith. My faith is in Christ, the gospel of our Lord Jesus..not "the gospels". Luke was a companion of Paul's. Not only does Luke omit this passage but Luke tells us in his gospel that there was an argument among the disciples who would be greatest. I wont bore you with more verbiage but suffice to say this..me playing NT critic, I wonder if what we see in the gospels concerning Petrine authority is what Paul talked about in 1 Corinthians when said there were factions within the Church. Factions as described by Paul saying some say they are of Peter, some of Paul, others saying of Apollos. Luke and Mark omit a crucial moment in church history. I wonder if church politics..or even variant beliefs concerning authority played a part.

[@TracyW-me8br]

Case study for why the Magisterium is so important.

[@graceambassador65]

Grace And Peace, friends. "Case study"? How about *Why God's WORD IS The* *MOST Important!?* *Since God's WORD Is "Magnified By God Above* ALL Else, *_Including_** HIS OWN* *Name!* {see (3) below...}, then Giving _Equal OR Higher Priority_ to Extra-biblical stuff *Is **_Idolatry,_* Correct? {We DO _Recall_ Satan Said: “I WILL BE HIGHER than God,” no?} Thus should we All not be *Obeying/Submitting To IT!?* { _Conforming_ "our ways/thoughts" *TO: HIS WAYS/THOUGHTS}!:* + NEVER Ever _CONFUSE_ *IT {God’s PRESERVED And Holy Word!}* with: "man's {Very} TRADITIONAL _{Magesterium+}_ ways"? i.e.: {UNinspired writings, NDEs/other experiences, superstitions, emotions, rituals/ceremonies, visions, false prophecies, speculations, guessing, false tongues, fanaticism, fake power healers, false {apostolic?} raisers of the dead, Internet videos, New Modern “bible” Perversions, hypotheticals, bad interpretations, assumptions, conjecture, imagination/dreams, etc. etc. etc.}: a) questioning *IT,* b) adding to *IT,* c) subtracting from *IT,* d) watering *IT* down, AND, e) DENYING *IT?* *Why?:* *God's Preserved Word, Above ALL, And FINAL Authority For "faith and practice!"* Amen?: A) *God's PROMISE Pertaining To HIS PRESERVED Word!:* *"The Words Of The LORD Are Pure Words: As silver tried in a furnace of earth,* *Purified Seven Times! THOU Shalt Keep Them, O LORD, THOU Shalt* *PRESERVE Them from this generation FOR EVER!" ( Psalm 12 : 6-7 KJB! )* B) *God's Word Is ABOVE All Else!* *"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy HOLY* *Name for Thy LovingKindness and for Thy TRUTH: for Thou* *Hast MAGNIFIED Thy WORD Above All Thy Name!" ( Psalm 138 : 2 KJB! )* C) *God's WRITTEN WORD Is THE FINAL Authority!* *"And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to* *myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us* *NOT TO THINK ABOVE THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN, { God's HOLY WORD! }* *that no one of you be puffed up for one against another!"* {sound familiar?} *( 1 Corinthians 4 : 6 KJB! )* Amen! And AMEN!! Therefore!: d): *The WRITTEN Word {Logos} Of God **_Cannot_** Possibly "Be SEPARATED"* *From:* *The LIVING Word {Logos} Of God, The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIMSELF!* e): *Since God Has PRESERVED IT "for ALL generations,"* then WHY would “men _Deny_ that *God Had Done That,”* using a “New, Modern, Easier-To-Read version.” only “coming Into Existence” AFTER 1885/1901, meaning: “God DID NOT” *PRESERVE HIS HOLY Word For “ALL generations,”* _Including_ those from 1611 until 1885/1901? f) If one does not have *God’s PRESERVED Word,* And, those who do have *IT,* but DO NOT Even “read *IT* through at least ONE time,” then HOW is it that they can “claim” they are: *living “BY EVERY WORD That Proceedeth Out Of The Mouth* *Of God!,” As HE Has COMMANDED!?* Case Closed! Saint Christopher *Rightly Divided* "studies" here for your Encouragement! IF you wish… kzbin.info/door/yxdRMbcLVBWY1HV2Fv8ALQdiscussion www.bereanbiblesociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/August-Searchlight-2020-Final-for-web.pdf ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- PS: What think ye?: *"Solves* _ALL "religious" Confusion"?_ = *NO "Other" Doctrine Than "Right Division!"* {Perchance Disobedience to *THIS **_"Sound_** Doctrine" Of God!* is _The Cause_ Of ALL Of The "Controversial/Contradictory/Confusing/DIVIDING" Issues? }: www.bereanbiblesociety.org/no-other-doctrine-but-right-division/?Berean+Bible+Society&SEARCHLIGHT& _Could_ be continued in the *Case "study" For "Approval Unto God!"* IF anyone WISHES... Grace And Peace to you...

[@graceambassador65]

@@joemen3332 Grace And Peace, my friend. Yes, agree "millions need to hear" *The ONE True Message!* or they WILL perish. Since we _Disagree,_ will "one of us Also perish" with them? "a church/their _Interpretation"_ is your "authority"? On the other hand, "my authority" is *Scripture **_Alone,_* {as Already Shown above...}, summarized!: *NOT TO THINK ABOVE THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN, { God's HOLY WORD! }* So Now, how do "I interpret"? "religions" believe THEY/THEIR "traditions" is "the _Interpreter._ Does 100% *Of The BIBLE* "need interpretation," or is not *Most Of IT* able to be taken "At *FACE Value!" = God Said "WHAT **_HE MEANT!!"_* ? "religions" _Disregard_ *The Biblical Facts, "That The God Who Gives* *HIS "Gift of **_Eternal_** Life," Also "Gives us THE Teacher" Of HIS WORD!:* *"...Which The Holy Ghost Teacheth..."* Amen? And, Then, Even Further, How about *God's "Specific Rules" for "studying, learning, And understanding IT!"?* *BIBLE Study Rules!* Seven Excellent Rules for *Knowledgeable Bible* study! *"According To The Scriptures!":* (1) *“Let ALL things be done Decently and In Order!”* *(1 Corinthians 14 : 40!)* (2) Study *ALL Scripture Rightly Divided!:* *“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that* *needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”* *(2 Timothy 2 : 15!)* (3) *Never Ever add to, Or take away From, God’s PURE And Holy Word!* *{Including "God's **_Contexts!,"_** Rightly Divided!! }* *(Deuteronomy 4 : 2, 12 : 32; Proverbs 30 : 5-6; Revelation 22 : 18,19!)* (4) *Be noble* students: *“These (in Berea) were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in* *that they received The Word with all readiness of mind, and* *searched The Scriptures daily, Whether Those Things Were So!”* *(Acts 17 : 11!)* (5) Build *Sound Doctrine, God’s Way!:* (5a) *“For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept;* *line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little!”* *(Isaiah 28 : 10!)* (5b) *Find ALL Related Scriptures* For A Specific doctrine!: *”ALL Scripture Is Given By Inspiration Of God, And Is* *Profitable For Doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for* *instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may* *be perfect, throughly furnished unto ALL good works!”* *(2 Timothy 3 : 16-17!)* (5c) *Compare ALL Related Scriptures* to learn and know a specific doctrine!: *“Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s* *wisdom teacheth, but Which The Holy Ghost Teacheth;* *comparing spiritual things with spiritual!” (1 Corinthians 2 : 13!)* *{Comparing Scripture With Scripture!}* *“Simplicity” in CHRIST! (2 Corinthians 11 : 3)* Amen? *(6) The Best "Interpretive" Commentary On The Bible Is:* *The BIBLE Itself!* NEVER ever interpret *The Many Plain Scriptures* by the _"few"_ difficult verses, But, ALWAYS Always Interpret the few Obscure/Difficult/Dubious verses by *ALL* *Of The MANY Plain and Clear Passages Of God’s Pure And Holy Word!* + *ONE Final Excellent Rule for Knowledgeable Bible study!:* (7) In order to *Honor The Father And The SON (John 5 : 22-23!),* *in Preparation For Judgment,* Always keep in mind: *”Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do,* *do ALL to The Glory Of God!” (1 Corinthians 10 : 31!)* And then we *ALL, who are "Called Into Fellowship With God's SON,* *The LORD JESUS CHRIST" (1 Corinthians 1 : 9!), And, "Endeavouring* *For The Unity Of God's Spirit In The Bond Of PEACE!..." (Ephesians 4 : 3!),* can *obey God's Exhortations!:* *”...speak...the things which become Sound Doctrine!”* *(Titus 2 : 1 cp "SAME mind And judgment!" 1 Corinthians 1 : 10!)* Amen? ------------------------------------------------ Friend(s), do you believe you are *Approved Unto God?* *“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that* *needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”* *(2 Timothy 2 : 15!)* --------------------------------- How then, can: "we reach the millions" when "we are ashamed" and NOT *"Approved!"?* joe men, Please be blessed!...

[@JMJ.516]

@@graceambassador65 Why are all Protestants deaf??? You never take on the actual arguments, instead you just copy and paste all over the internet. It’s so disingenuous. And completely boring. BTW Are those “bible study rules” in the Bible? Are they infallible? Who taught them to you?

[@jordank867]

I thoroughly enjoy these videos. Thank you for your service to the Catholic Church.

[@Irisgomesjmjfaith]

The Holy Spirit is so not with this chap Josh. Has anybody ever noticed how Protestants conveniently forget about the Orthodox Church when they make these claims about the Catholic Church? Some study of Church history might help.

[@stephenler3850]

I am so proud of you Trent Horn. You are always so calm in your rebuttals and give very good explanations to put up your point....Keep it Up ! Thanks be to God for giving the Catholic Church, people like Trent Horn , Dr Brant Pitre , Dr Scott Hann , Robert Haddad and many more.

[@phoult37]

Convenient how Josh leaves out the part in which Jesus says my body is true food and my blood true drink; even the KJV reads: For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed (John 6:55). If Jesus is speaking metaphorically, why reaffirm the literal interpretation?

[@davido3026]

Satan's subtlety... forked tongue!!!

[@alfonsovaldez2838]

No wonder someday, this josh will put up his own sect.

[@soneejohn3703]

If Jesus was using metaphorical language in John 6, why do they say that it’s a hard teaching? And why do some of the disciples leave and when he asks the 12, Peter answers and say “where would we go”?

[@henrymalinowski5125]

@David Ortiz Protestantism is The Mark of the Beast confirmed!!1!11

[@thuscomeguerriero]

@@henrymalinowski5125 easy..

[@jmmanley]

The biggest issue with the Protestant vs Catholic discussion, as far as I can tell as a romo-curious protestant who was once an evangelical Calvinist, is that the mindsets diverged 500 years ago. The Catholic worldview significantly predates modernity, whereas the Protestant worldview in many ways embraces it insofar as it is hostile to tradition and group loyalty and insofar as its philosophy remains unaware of metaphysics. You simply cannot debate a Catholic over transubstantiation if you do not have a working understanding of metaphysics in the Aristolelian/Thomistic understanding.

[@teth-adam]

So it's always figurative language for Josh until it comes to Jesus saying not to call anyone Father? Based on his reasoning, why should we take that passage literally?

[@JimS91939]

Trent Horn, Love your commentary! I was watching Dr. Brant Pitre and he held the comparison that when Christ was are-naming and calling Peter his rock and giving the keys to the kingdom, Christ was alluding to Isaiah 22:22. Therefore giving Peter the title of the prime minister I.E. the Pope. I just found this out as a Catholic and it’s mind blowing!! Do Protestants know about this?? Keep up the good work my friend!!

[@tuffguy0134]

Josh is quick to talk about idolatry. Protestants worship the Bible. And anything that challenges it, they can't handle. I used to be a Protestant (Lutheran) so I have heard all these arguments before. Bottom line is this: Sola Scriptura (which ALL Protestants faiths are built upon) isn't in the Bible.

[@munivisionmuni5620]

Let’s all pray for josh so that Jesus gives him wisdom.

[@munivisionmuni5620]

Aubrey Shatner so what is your stand? Lots of history here. What does any of it have to do with the word of god? Obviously men fail.

[@munivisionmuni5620]

Aubrey Shatner so you believe Jesus lied or the apostles lied?

[@munivisionmuni5620]

Aubrey Shatner and you believe 2000 years later you hold the answers and the many who died before you defending it died in vain? Who is your prophet?

[@munivisionmuni5620]

Aubrey Shatner jehovas are a cult by all definition. I’m not hating on what you believe but I trust Jesus and the apostles over the mortal who began the jehova witness cult. Who by all definition was a thief so what makes him any different than those who came before him The bishops?

[@munivisionmuni5620]

Aubrey Shatner what makes you so sure you are correct. By your own logic you fail in the same way.

[@kevint7288]

His whole bit on the Eucharist is like trying to grade a math problem wherein the kid, in showing his work, already gets Step 2 wrong, and because of that early mistake, every single conclusion thereafter is not only based on that early mistake but is also wildly different from the actual answer

[@chrisxprem]

I wonder if any parent names their kids to show how insignificant they are. On the one hand Servus Christi wants to say Peter is important and yet the same he also wants to show how insignificant Peter is. Name change to reduce a person would be pointless, and Trent really pointed out that very very well.

[@jendoe9436]

Reminds me of the argument my Lutheran friend makes to downplay the priesthood and Apostolic succession. To him, Peter being given the keys to Heaven and being renamed ‘Rock’ doesn’t imply Peter was set apart from the Apostles. They were all equals and no one trumped the other due to them being given the authority to bind and loose. I’ve asked him why only Peter was given the keys then and he tries saying “no no, all of the Apostles were given authority at Pentecost.” His final argument is that the Bishop of Rome was never considered “head of the Church” and when I point out some of the early texts, he goes “but what about Antioch? Peter taught there and they claim succession.” What cracks me up is that Lutherans have bishops who are “all equal”, but there are discussions to elect an archbishop to “preside over the other bishops.” His response, “but they’re all equal, he’s just who they voted to head discussions so it’s not the same.” Well duh, but he still refuses to admit Apostolic succession cause Peter “never wanted/was meant to pass his title down.” Honestly, the lengths people go to to deny the obvious.

[@soldumago8789]

Thanks for your time and effort on compiling this rebutted series..

[@MajorasTime]

Hey Trent. I'm a Protestant who's really been considering either Catholicism or Orthodoxy. I was wondering if you can please do a critique on one of Jay Dyer's videos on Catholicism. He's an Eastern Orthodox apologist who's very intelligent. Every Catholic who I've seen debate him have lost, which is truly discouraging to me because I lean towards Catholicism more. If you can make a video response to one of his critiques (for example his: "10 reasons why I'm not Catholic" video) that would be a blessing to me and many others. And if you want me to pay you to do that I will pay you. Because this would be my ultimate deciding factor on whether I should convert to Catholicism or not. God bless.

[@moonban4086]

Hey man, just so you know: FOCUS ON THE PAPACY. The Catholic Church is defined by the papacy. Literally everything else follows if you find that the Pope has the authority that Catholics claim. And the other questions are typically theological distractions. The questions you should ask are: What is the role of the Pope, both in ecclesiology and theology? What is the evidence for the authority of the Pope? How do we know that the authority of the Pope has been maintained since antiquity? And finally, what does all this mean? (it obviously means that you should become Catholic, but you should work all this out yourself first).

[@Jerônimo_de_Estridão]

The Trinity & The Filioque: Catholicism Refutes Eastern "Orthodoxy" kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYPVq6JraqxmbJY Jay Dyer Exposed & Palamism Refuted kzbin.info/www/bejne/joOvgISLo9xgfLs

[@Maskedlapis64]

Mango Bango Hello friend! I am unsure if we have spoken before. The position you are in can be stressful. Your soul genuinely seeks truth but due to sin in the world, truth is obscured and difficult to find. I know the feeling. I for one also really hope Trent debates Jay some time! I have some free book recommendations on the papacy (the biggest dividing factor between Catholics and Orthodox) if you are interested! 1. Thomas William Allies M. A. The See of Peter, the Rock of the Church, the Source of Jurisdiction, and Center of Unity 2. Rev. Paul Bottalla, S.J. The Pope and the Church considered in their mutual relations Volume I is phenomenal and Volume II is also great. Both are available free online and in my opinion their examination of the evidence of the early Church points to the Catholic Church. Allies is a former Anglican who converted to Catholicism and I think his book is excellent, My advice to you in these confusing times are that you study, pray,and don’t rush into anything. Take your time and the Spirit will guide you through the issues. God bless and praying for you :)

[@el_jefe_007]

Errors in eastern “orthodoxy” kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6GliJ6uf7N_adU

[@el_jefe_007]

Here is a debate between Erick Ybarra and jay dyer on the Papacy kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppysl6Jnas-JY5o.

[@Maskedlapis64]

Trent! I love your content. I recently got your book “a case for Catholicism” it is wonderful in refuting Protestantism! I was wondering if you have plans on doing a book of similar style on Eastern Orthodoxy! For example more on the Pope and the Filioque. It would also be great if you did videos critiquing Eastern Orthodoxy, namely May dyer. I have had many friends leave Catholicism for Orthodoxy in the past year. Thanks again, love the content! God bless

[@st.michaelsknight6299]

@P K Yeah, but the eastern way is still valid and is done even in eastern catholic churchs

[@dylanfernandez3910]

@P K The Orthodox and Eastern Catholics have a pretty good case that artos (leavened bread) was used at the Lords supper

[@dylanfernandez3910]

@P K Wow, I can tell you didn't bother reading the article at all

[@dylanfernandez3910]

@P K If biblical scholars are fools I don't know what you are

[@dylanfernandez3910]

@P K Look at the time factor for the events which took place, and you will see that the Last Supper was not the Passover Meal: 1) Jesus and the disciples eat the Last Supper, 2) Jesus and the disciples crossed the Kidron Valley (John 18:1) 3) Jesus underwent the Agony in the Garden 4) Jesus was Arrested 5) Jesus was brought before Ciaphas 6) Jesus was taken from Ciaphas and brought before Pilate. But St. John tells us that when Jesus was brought to Pilate the next morning (event No.6), the Jews who brought Him to Pilate would not enter the Praetorium, because doing so would render them unclean for the Passover: "Then they led Jesus from Caiaphas to the Praetorium, and it was early morning. But they themselves did not go into the Praetorium, lest they should be defiled, so that they might eat the Passover." (John18:28) St. John the Beloved Disciple (who witnessed the events himself first hand) clearly says that the events listed 1-6 took place before the Passover, so leavened bread was still used. Here's a summary of the proposed case.

[@dm9856]

Love to watch Trent crush opposition. Tired of being persecuted by Protestants. It's like they wake up and try and prioritize bashing Catholicism into their everyday.

[@dm9856]

Wish we could all get along. After 2o+ years of being confirmed I've received protestant hate every year. It's just senseless

[@balukuroben7458]

The devil hates authority and will want authority to be removed that is why the protestant movement is divided by diabolical powers.

[@Arfaxad2207]

This amaze me so much. The boldness of this guy in the way he uses the Bible against the Catholic Church. The Bible that the Catholic Church gave to him.

[@Jack-id6sj]

Thank you for making this reply. As someone who is simply seeking the truth, it is great to hear differently points of view. I learned alot! Godbless.

[@graceambassador65]

Grace And Peace, Jack, my friend. Appreciate your _humble_ attitude "simply seeking the truth." Hope *The Following* will help you "on your journey!" *And, Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed And Encouraged!:* Part 1 *Approval Unto God!:* *Grace And Peace From God, The Father, And From* *The LORD And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST!* *LORD JESUS, Before you Come To Gather us Home To Heaven, Please* *Grant Thy Divine Help to understand Thy Word Of Truth, Rightly* *Divided!"* Amen: *What Would God, In HIS Age Of GRACE Today, Have* us Also "DO," that was *"learned, and received, and heard, and seen, In Paul"* ? *(Philippians 4 : 9!)* *"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, a workman That* *Needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!"* *(2 Timothy 2 : 15!)* *_"Example"_** Of Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!:* *Leaders/Numbers / Salvation/Commissions* in: *God's TWO **_"Different"_** Programs:* (1) _Representative_ apostles + number! For: *God’s LAW/PROPHETIC* Program: *“prophesied since the world began!”* (Luke 1 : 68-70; Acts 3 : 21!): God’s Complete Number TWELVE “represents:” TWELVE baptismS, TWELVE apostles who will rule in the "Prophesied" kingdom With CHRIST!, on TWELVE thrones, Over the TWELVE tribes of Israel! (Genesis 49 : 28; Isaiah 9 : 7, 32 : 1; Matthew 19 : 28; Luke 22 : 30; James 1 : 1!) *gospel of the kingdom!:* Salvation = "he that believeth *AND is baptized* Shall Be SAVED!" (Mark 16 : 16 cp *Luke 7 : 29-30;* Acts 2 : 38; James 2 : 17-18!) And _Includes_ *The LORD’s FIVE-Part Marching Orders,* the so-called ( added as a “Page Header” in *Bibles* ), “Great Commission”: (1a): *“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in The Name* *Of The Father, and Of The SON, and of The Holy Ghost: Teaching* *them to Observe ALL Things Whatsoever I Have Commanded you:* *and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen!”* _ (Matthew 28 : 19-20!) _Including:_ *“Observe ALL things WHATSOEVER I Have* *COMMANDED you!”:* *“Then Spake JESUS To the multitude, And To HIS disciples,* *Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:* *ALL therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that OBSERVE* *AND DO; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not!”* (Matthew 23 : 1-3!) (1b): *“And HE Said Unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the* *gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall* *be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these* *signs shall follow them that believe: In MY Name shall they cast out* *devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents;* - *and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they* *shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover…. And they went* *forth, and preached every where, The LORD Working With them, and* *Confirming The Word With signs following. Amen!”* (Mark 16 : 15-20!) (1c): *“And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in* *HIS Name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are* *witnesses of these things. And, behold, I Send The Promise of MY* *Father Upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be* *endued with Power From On High!”* (Luke 24 : 47-49!) (1d): *“Then Said JESUS To them again, Peace Be Unto you: As MY Father* *Hath Sent ME, Even So Send I you. And When HE Had Said This, HE* *Breathed On them, And Saith Unto them, Receive ye The Holy Ghost:* *Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and* *whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained!”* (John 20 : 21-23!) (1e): *“But ye shall receive power, after that The Holy Ghost Is Come Upon you:* *and ye shall be witnesses unto ME both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea,* *and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth!”* (Acts 1 : 8!) End of: Salvation / Commission In *God's "Law/Prophetic Program!"* continued in *Part 2: Approval Unto God!...*

[@graceambassador65]

Part 2 *Approval Unto God!:* Previous "study!:" Salvation / Commission In *God's "Law/Prophetic Program!"* {friend, do you "think" this is for you "Today"?} *Or...* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From *CHRIST To HIS TWELVE,* _on the earth!_ { _Currently_ “On HOLD!” } *Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!) From **_“Things That DIFFER!”:_* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *...Is This FOR us Today?:* *From CHRIST To HIS ONE, **_From Heaven!!_** { **_Currently_** ACTIVE!}* *God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS "Revelation Of The MYSTERY!"* *God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose BEFORE “the foundation of the world”* *(Ephesians 1 : 4!)* *Kept Secret “since the world began”* *(Romans 16 : 25; Ephesians 1 : 4-11, 3 : 5-9!)* *(2) **_Representative_** apostle + number! For:* *God’s Revelation Of GRACE In HIS MYSTERY,* *From CHRIST, **_In Heaven,_** To...* { Friend, IF you have NEVER prayerfully/carefully “studied” *This Important Doctrine ( Paul’s **_“Distinctive”_** ministry From God! )* before, Please take some time for *”Approval Unto God!,”* Please? } *...Paul, Chosen By God, as ONE individual apostle,* *BOTH Roman and Hebrew,* *(Acts 9 : 6, 15, 13 : 2, 20 : 24, 22 : 1-15, 21, 25-28, 26 : 17-18;* *Philippians 3 : 5; Romans 1 : 1, 11 : 13, 15 : 16-18;* *Galatians 1 : 15, 2 : 7-8; Ephesians 3 : 1; 1 Timothy 1 : 11, 2 : 7;* *2 Timothy 1 : 11!), **_represents:_* *Reconciliation, By GRACE (2 Corinthians 5 : 17-6 : 2!), of* *BOTH Jew and Gentile, as “INDIVIDUALS,” Into “ONE New Man!”* *(Ephesians 2 : 15-16!)* *SPIRITUALLY Baptized ( And "Spiritually United as* *_members of one another!"_** ), BY: ONE Baptism!* *(1 Corinthians 12 : 13 cp Ephesians 4 : 5, 5 : 30 KJB!), Into:* *ONE Body, In HEAVEN!,* ... ... *[ By The DEADLY, But Amazingly Wonderful CROSS! ] Of CHRIST,* *The Risen And Glorified SAVIOUR, The **_Only_** HEAD Of HIS Church!!* *(1 Timothy 3 : 16; Ephesians 1 : 22, 5 : 23; Colossians 1 : 18 KJB!)* *Praise HIS Precious NAME!* Amen? *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!:* *“For I [ Paul! ] delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received,* *How That CHRIST Died For our sins According To The Scriptures;* *And That HE Was Buried, And That HE Rose Again the third day* *According To The Scriptures!” (1 Corinthians 15 : 3-4!)* + *"For By GRACE are ye SAVED Through faith; and that not of yourselves:* *It Is The Gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast!"* *( Ephesians 2 : 8-9! cp Most of Romans through Philemon! # )* *{ GRACE **_Found_** 85 Times! }* *And, The MYSTERY **_Includes_** The LORD’s "Greater" GRACE Commission! =* *Ministry of RECONCILIATION!* *"And all things are of God, Who Hath Reconciled us To Himself By* *JESUS CHRIST, And Hath Given To us the ministry of reconciliation;* *to wit, That God Was In CHRIST, Reconciling the world Unto Himself,* *Not Imputing their trespasses unto them; And Hath Committed Unto us* *The Word Of Reconciliation!* *Now then we are ambassadors for CHRIST, as though God Did Beseech* *you by us: we pray you in CHRIST’s Stead, be ye reconciled to God! For* *HE Hath Made HIM To Be sin For us, WHO Knew no sin; that we might Be* *Made The Righteousness Of God In HIM!* *We then, as workers together with HIM, beseech you also that ye receive* *not The GRACE Of God in vain! (For HE Saith, I Have Heard thee in a time* *accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now* *is the accepted time; behold, NOW IS THE DAY OF SALVATION!!)”* *(2 Corinthians 5 : 18-6 : 2!)* End: *God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS Revelation Of The MYSTERY!* *# Romans - Philemon = God's GRACE Love Letters For us **_Today_** For:* *Consolation, Comfort, Edification, Enjoyment, Encouragement, And* *_spiritual_** Building Up Of All The BLOOD-Washed "members ( saints!" )* *In The Body Of CHRIST!, HIS Church, Seated In **_Heaven!_* Amen? Friends, after “comparing” Law vs *GRACE!* Which is FOR us Today? Or: Are they BOTH FOR us, today, in which case we ask: ALL The "NUMBERS experts" know there is A Vast "Difference" Between 12 And *"ONE,"* Correct? Would not “Choosing” BOTH Make This Fatal ERROR, & we can just stay with the "Modern" "wonderful And marvelous" 2000-year-old judeo/christian "combo": (1) LAW + *(2) GRACE* = (3) "religious Confusion Of Contradictions" { or, "Pick & Choose!" } Method… ..."remaining" as: a weak And _Severely Divided_ *Church, Displeasing God!,* Correct? Friends, "which" of these "gospels" do "you Believe," In *God’s Age* *Of GRACE "Today," Are CURSED By God! (Galatians 1 : 6-9!)?* *(2) Gospel of GRACE!* || (1) gospel of the kingdom, (3) “Combo gospel” IF your "particular" group "subscribes" to (1) OR (3), Please, *Obey God, As HE "Beseeches"!:* *"Wherefore Come Out from among them, and be ye Separate,* *Saith The LORD, And touch not the unclean [ ACCURSED!? ]* *thing; and I Will Receive you, And Will Be A Father Unto you,* *And ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters, Saith The LORD Almighty!"* *(2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)* ----------------------------------------------- *LORD JESUS, we humbly pray that Any And ALL confused over the* *"Division of Many Over salvation/baptismS/commissionS,” have been* *Truly Blessed With This **_Solving The Confusion_** study! Amen.* ----------------------------------------------- *GRACE/Repentance, Through Faith, & PEACE, Found In SCRIPTURE,* *to The Honor And GLORY Of GOD, The Father, Through The LORD And* *SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST!* Amen? Concluding questions: (1) Friend(s), Do you believe you are *"Approved Unto God"? (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!)* (2) Do you believe you should _Turn Away_ *FROM God’s “Chosen” Apostle* *Of HIS PURE GRACE?:* *"This thou knowest, that ALL THEY WHICH ARE IN ASIA TURNED AWAY* *From me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes." (2 Timothy 1 : 15 KJB!)* ------------------------------- Again, friend(s), *Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed In God’s WORD Of Truth, Rightly* *Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!)* brother Chris PS: What think ye?: *"Solves* _ALL "religious" Confusion"?_ = *NO "Other" Doctrine Than "Right Division!"* {Perchance Disobedience to *THIS **_"Sound_** Doctrine" Of God!* is _The Cause_ Of ALL Of The "Controversial/Contradictory/Confusing/DIVIDING" Issues? }: www.bereanbiblesociety.org/no-other-doctrine-but-right-division/?Berean+Bible+Society&SEARCHLIGHT& Friend, are you *"Approved Unto God"?* or, Are you *"Grieving HIS Spirit"?*

[@justjac8028]

Me too!!I feel like our education system has failed us on so many levelss!!I wish we taught the main world religions in high school!!! The level of respect I have for the teachings of devout Muslims and Islamic religions is 📈!! The differences in our beliefs didn't take away how beautifully devout, modest, respectful and humble most of them are, I legit have nothing but love for them!! In fact I bond with a couple of them more so than most Christians 😂 We'ee all so bombarded with information and disinformation its hard not to get overwhelmed and distracted. My journey to find truth was SOOO scary one. I got to the point where I had to isolate myself from fam and friends temporarily. I couldn't afford distractions or negative influences. I surrendered my ego & pride to God and asked him to guide me. Sure enough, 2 years (and counting) I studied history that went as FAR back in time as the Pyramids (bible didn't exist in this era). He has NOTTTT let me down! Giving God the green light to show us Truth is scary. I don't like being told I'm wrong 😂😂 The moral of my long long story is..... All you (WE) gotta do is ask Him🥰But when you ask Him to start revealing himself to you, BUCKLE UP!! Hahaha it's a beautiful ride! You have so many people who are humbly willing to answer any question. This is a life long journey for all of us🤗🙏

[@topper009]

Whenever these guys focus on the whole rock thing they always conveniently forget "...whatever YOU bind on earth part..." So Jesus was talking to Himself here? Also as Trent said I really think the name change thing is really the only evidence needed. Whenever the apostle Simon is referred to as Peter that is the same thing as the apostles recognizing his office as rock, or else they would keep calling him Simon.

[@wesstratman5525]

"Believe" and "Faith" are effectively the same words but "Petra" and "Petros" are TOTALLY different

[@topherrey8665]

@David Ortiz you are right the word rock in aramaic is "cephas" so yes no distinction between Petra and petro

[@echomike8591]

Wes Stratman, not an accurate comparison. "Cephas" does it for the protestant lame arguments.

[@ironymatt]

37:00 - How does Josh not see that what he reads here describes *himself* to a "T"!

[@balukuroben7458]

You can see the humility in the Catholic apologist and the pride and arrogance in the protestant man.

[@TheFifthofFive]

After listing to this I am so glad I am Catholic now and no longer protestant. I know there are a lot of good protestants, but some of them are very proud.

[@MystoRobot]

Josh speaks of the errors of "protestant overcorrections"... *GOOD!* but he ironically remains a victim of it throughout his explanations and accusations. Just with Simon's name being changed by Jesus to "Rock" *right before* he begins speaking about building the Church *on this rock.* Logically, everything screams "TRUTH" in regards to the Catholic interpretation... and one would have to be highly dishonest with the context of this passage to disagree. They're going *so far off* in picky details just to oppose the Catholic Teaching, I feel embarrassed for them just by watching...

[@AD-sx7ix]

I remember asking you to rebut this video. THANK YOU

[@lonelyberg1808]

your wish has been granted

[@7Archie4]

the protestant guy is just exposing his own ignorance.

[@davido3026]

He is so ignorant that he watches his own videos and approves himself!

[@alonso3741]

2:10:20 This is my favorite commentary from Trent. Hits home at the sacrifices that many face when converting to Catholicism. The world will tell you to say "no" but our Lord Jesus Christ and His Church will strengthen you to shout a resounding "YES", despite the temporal sacrifices. Thanks Trent and awesome rebuttal!

[@Klee99zeno]

He says that Jesus uses figurative language, so everything that Jesus said was figurative?

[@Klee99zeno]

@David Ortiz - I suppose he wanted Lazurus to admit he was gay. That must be the figurative meaning of come out.

[@etrnlygr8tful]

Jonathan Lewis ... You can't come up with a mature, intelligent rebuttal to @ David's response huh?

[@lonelyberg1808]

@@Klee99zeno Ahahahahah you're a killer

[@nathanoppy]

This man seethes with arrogance. I will pray for him

[@jacquelineagcaoili3384]

This is not a catholic rebuttal but a protestant rebuttal because the catholic apologist is so cool and humble But very confident of his answers. While the protestant apologist is arrogant and trying to show his knowledge but failed miserably because ",bible alone" cannot be found in the bible...

[@graceambassador65]

Grace And Peace, Jacqueline, And, _Concerning_ *God's PRESERVED WORD,* see below... And, *Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed, As God Says!:* *God's Preserved Word, Above ALL, And FINAL Authority For "faith and practice!"* Amen?: A) *God's PROMISE Pertaining To HIS PRESERVED Word!:* *"The Words Of The LORD Are Pure Words: As silver tried in a furnace of earth,* *Purified Seven Times! THOU Shalt Keep Them, O LORD, THOU Shalt* *PRESERVE Them from this generation FOR EVER!" ( Psalm 12 : 6-7 KJB! )* B) *God's Word Is ABOVE All Else!* *"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy HOLY* *Name for Thy LovingKindness and for Thy TRUTH: for Thou* *Hast MAGNIFIED Thy WORD Above All Thy Name!" ( Psalm 138 : 2 KJB! )* C) *God's WRITTEN WORD Is THE FINAL Authority!* *"And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to* *myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us* *NOT TO THINK ABOVE THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN, { God's HOLY WORD! }* ► {seems to me *That God Does Say: "Bible **_Alone!"_** Amen?}* ◄ *that no one of you be puffed up for one against another!"* {internet religions?} *( 1 Corinthians 4 : 6 KJB! )* Amen! And AMEN!! Therefore!: d): *The WRITTEN Word {Logos} Of God **_Cannot_** Possibly "Be SEPARATED"* *From:* *The LIVING Word {Logos} Of God, The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIMSELF!* e) If one does not have *God’s PRESERVED Word,* And, those who do have *IT,* but DO NOT Even “read *IT* through at least ONE time,” then HOW is it that they can “claim” they are: *living “BY EVERY WORD That Proceedeth Out Of The Mouth* *Of God!,” As HE Has COMMANDED!?* Saint Christopher *Rightly Divided* "studies" here for your Encouragement! IF you wish… *ALL THIRTEEN Bible* baptismS “study” *{# 7}...* *+ 17-Part Great GRACE Departure! {# 11}* "study": kzbin.info/door/yxdRMbcLVBWY1HV2Fv8ALQdiscussion www.bereanbiblesociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/August-Searchlight-2020-Final-for-web.pdf ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- PS: What think ye?: *"Solves* _ALL "religious" Confusion"?_ = *NO "Other" Doctrine Than "Right Division!"* {Perchance Disobedience to *THIS **_"Sound_** Doctrine" Of God!* is _The Cause_ Of ALL Of The "Controversial/Contradictory/Confusing/DIVIDING" Issues? }: www.bereanbiblesociety.org/no-other-doctrine-but-right-division/?Berean+Bible+Society&SEARCHLIGHT&

[@davido3026]

​@@graceambassador65the catholic church made the bible and gave it to the world in the year 382AD! The church was then, 350 years old!

[@acr164]

Thank you for taking such a long time to go through each aspect of Josh's criticism. It makes me sing with gratitude in my heart for the greatness of God's church. I absolutely do not deserve the grace of Christ, his continual mercy, the Holy sacraments which awaken the spirit within me and give me life, life, life. The beautiful people who have given their lives to serve Christ as priests and nuns; embracing the true church of Christ in humble submission to God' will. This church from which, btgoG, the gates of hades are unable to take me. How is it that I can so love this church and others so hate it? I know there are many weeds in Christ's fields; evil popes and bishops, clergy and lay people. This is an imperfect world we are in. All the more extraordinary that the Church still prevails in spite of all its faults. When Christ spoke to Peter, he knew from the beginning the way His church would go - and yet He still loves it. It gives hope to us all. And now many protestants are embracing Christ's church as well; not by intellect and clever theology but in humility and prayer. This is Christ's church; not Luther's nor Calvin's nor Josh's. You cannot fight against it and prevail.

[@martinciglenecki526]

Thank God for Trent, because without him, this video would be truly intolerable to watch and listen to. Thanks for what you do.

[@royalsoldierofdrangleic4577]

Protestants:*Arguing that Peter is not the rock because of the different words in the greek of Gospel of Matthew* St. Matthew:"Oh Lord... Why did i write in greek and not in Aramaic?"

[@royalsoldierofdrangleic4577]

@David Ortiz Well, i think very few regularly. My point is that many Protestants use the original greek to make the "petros=/=petra argument". Btw, mine was a joke

[@saustinjxp4363]

Keep up the good works, Trent! We Love you!

[@chris714s]

Regarding the eucharist: Jesus didn't "clone" Himself. He is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world.

[@PInk77W1]

I love it “Then why did Jesus change Peters name at all ?” Well according to Protestants There is NO reason. They give it no significance

[@Michael-bk5nz]

Worse, they turn the compliment into an insult

[@aadschram5877]

Trent, good to see you again, you do an awsome job!

[@takmaps]

God help me, I can't listen to these idiots that think they have all the knowledge meanwhile affirming their own authority to tell us we shouldn't have an authority. This is why I can't be an apologist. Thank you Trent for your defense of the Catholic Church.

[@patquint3291]

takmaps God help me too! I have no patience what so ever with these antiBiblical, antiCatholic, and most of all antiChristian, Protestant “pastors” who LIE, LIE, LIE to their congregations about the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church Jesus founded. I have been devoutly Catholic for 27 years and have listened to dozens and dozens and dozens of Protestant pastors preach with appalling arrogance and with petrifying ignorance on all things Catholic. Number one in my book would have to be John MacArthur, with James White coming in a sliver behind MacArthur in second place. Thanks be to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for Trent and all the fabulous Catholic apologists in the Church today!

[@takmaps]

@@patquint3291 Mike Winger should be on that list. I'll put it this way his smugness and Holier than though attitude is so unbearable that I can't watch even a mere two minutes of his caricaturing of Catholicism.

[@queenofhearts7726]

takmaps yep! “Preachers” like this guy sent me running from anything protestant! They simply are not logical!

[@royalsoldierofdrangleic4577]

I too could not be a good apologist, in a debate with one of them i would lose all my time to respond laughing. They should all be comedians, James White being the funniest.

[@takmaps]

@@royalsoldierofdrangleic4577 so true pingu 😂

[@katiehendricks6719]

Thanks Trent!!! Excited to watch!!!

[@christinacastillon6439]

Listening to this is giving me heartburn! Thank God for defenders of the Faith like Trent Horn!

[@nicolelowe3619]

The Channels name should be "The Roasting with Trent"

[@rosarymanpio]

This Protestant is so arrogant and condescending. Good job Trent on telling the truth in love.

[@anthonycalipjo8669]

As always, Trent always keep his cool and patience in educating the arrogant and ignorant. Ive watched his debate with James White, while White was so rude and arrogance in his own personal interpretations Trent walk him through and answered all the issues with humility. The truth of the matter is, most people just read the BIBLE and suddenly becomes their own authority... keep it up Trent...♥️♥️♥️

[@nbip2845]

Imagine being a 'freemason' with a neck tattoo LARPing as a Christian to attack The Church. In 2020.

[@corporateshill7473]

What's this about his being Masonic??

[@VACatholic]

@David Ortiz "Freemasonry" is just a codeword for men who wear tiny hats.

[@VACatholic]

Not hard to imagine at all. You just have to open your eyes to what the tiny hats are doing.

[@nbip2845]

@@VACatholic Say talmudics if you want to say talmudics. "Tiny hats" is LGBT TikTok level of language. Stop it. And nice try letting 'freemasons' off the hook..

[@VACatholic]

@@nbip2845 freemasons are talmudics. Who is letting who off the hook?

[@henrymalinowski5125]

27:27 "He refers to himself as an apostle not Apostle Paul..." Now that's a distinction without a difference if I've ever heard one.

[@henrymalinowski5125]

@Aubrey Shatner I sincerely hope this is a copy-paste, because it's not doing anything for me or my original pithy comment. I will only say that, I do not believe scriptures you are citing claim what you say they claim (e.g. "the church will be overrun") kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4bViJuif8irjsk

[@C.J.JOSEPH]

Iam watching your video's from India, it was awesome to see you uploading this kind of videos. Please upload an other video rebuting Richard carrier on "Christ myth theory".

[@kathyweiland4732]

You nailed it Trent! I feel so blessed to be receiving The Graces from all the sacraments of the Catholic Church

[@Abraham-yq2wz]

Trent, it occurred to me during Josh’s objection to there being “two incarnations” and “two sacrifices” that Revelation 13 mentions “the lamb slain from the foundation of the world”. That Christ’s body and blood were substantially present at the last supper prior to his sacrifice on the cross is a mystery, but it isn’t ungrounded, illogical, or unbiblical.

[@tricks177]

The thing that kills me about this entire talk is that this man just assumed Catholicism is wrong, then made conclusions based on that. He really thinks the 2000 year old Church containing many well educated scholars somehow missed all of the "inconsistencies" he's talking about.

[@jeremysmith7176]

1:10:51 So if I'm understanding this correctly then if a validly ordained priest traveled back in time before the Last Supper and celebrated the liturgy it would still be valid. Neat

[@chicken-911]

true except for the time travelling part. you can't. The only real application of the theory of relativity is only a few seconds time jump to the future. Making a time machine is unfeasible and expensive. Not to mention the metaphysical and moral implications of such invention.

[@lucianodsouza]

Wonderful Trent! God Bless you and The Blessed Mother wrap her mantle around you nd ur family. Sad to see nd hear the hate and pride that these protestants preach with😢

[@atnyzous]

Trent must be really really a humble guy to make a rebuttal of this irrational illogical claims.

[@kyriosbooks8400]

Trent, can you do Jay Dyer 10 reasons why im not roman catholic? I think manny would like to see that. Blessings!

[@omiglio]

Brilliant work as usual Trent!!! Love it!!!

[@patrickcarbonell627]

Catholic Faith is well defended with the Horn of Trent! May more Catholics stand up and speak up and bring many to cross the river Tiber towards Rome! God bless you Trent!

[@pop6997]

Thank you Trent. I am so happy that you are so calm and clear and really logical. I've heard these particular arguements before from people who only ever pick parts of Scripture to uphold some kind of clinging to their tradition of sola scriptura and Sola Fide. Scripture itself denies both and affirms the authority of the Church! The same Church Jesus himself instituted! Terrible lies and slander are unfortunately a signature of some of our Protestant brothers.. ...yet, do they not see the result with thousands of denominations all arguing. Trent, stay humble and speak truth. God bless you!

[@billpletikapich5640]

Josh, I protest your protest with the authority of Bill's 1st faith , grace, free church of 89th street.

[@julieoelker1865]

Trent, you are right. This guy can twist Jesus's words to mean anything he wants.

[@alfredobonilla6223]

Buen Trabajo Trent, que Dios Bendiga tu familia y a ti

[@echomike8591]

This is an answered prayer. I was one of the many who requested Trent to do a rebuttal on Josh's video. His logic and interpretations is a pain in my "bangs"(hair). I'd rather believe James White than Josh(pun intended).

[@lonelyberg1808]

I don't see the pun

[@thuscomeguerriero]

55:40 What is an unbloody sacrifice? How can Christ re-present his bodily sacrifice at Calvary in heaven with a body that has been glorified thus not being subject to death? How is it a re-presentation of the cross if it is an unbloody sacrifice (Contradiction in terms?) performed in a changed body not subject to death? Is this even coherent?

[@thuscomeguerriero]

@David Ortiz Thats question begging tho isnt it? Aren't we asking what the nature of the last supper is? How then can we use as evidence the very passage we are debating over? But make no mistake..I make no judgements here. I'm learning like the rest of us. If Christ is in the Eucharist then God be praised. I just want to know the truth..why is it I should believe this? Wherever the evidence goes hopefully so go I.

[@krjohnson29]

Yay! Part 2 is finally here 😀

[@phillipcummings3518]

I love that he turns into the disciples that turned away from Jesus in John 6 and doesn't understand while ranting about it. If Jesus was speaking figuratively then why didn't he correct people and instead doubled down on eating his flesh?

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

Wow, Josh brings "splitting hairs" to never before seen levels. I would get such a kick out of seeing what someone like John Calvin or Martin Luther would think of this fella.

[@Heroicmultiplicity]

Great rebuttal! Thanks Trent!

[@davidn9518]

Fantastic job in rebutting Josh!!

[@TheRomishRoad]

21:25 I know this is an older video, but I had a thought. In 1 Corinthians 3 Paul continues speaking about who we belong to. He says that Paul planted, Apollos water... Then at the end of the chapter he brings up three: Paul, Apollos, and Cephas/Peter. He brings up himself because he planted, Apollos because he tended them. Why bring up Peter? Peter had never gone to Corinth, most scholars seem to agree on this. If Peter was just another apostle, why bring up him and only him? Why not at least John and James too? Why would any of them even think of saying they were Peter's, if Peter never visited them? This verse is a clear support of Peter's primacy, not the opposite. Paul is calling out the leader of the church to make his point, not to diminish Peter. I never saw this before this video, thanks Trent!

[@Lettie22]

I'm really sensitive to characters on KZbin having watched hundreds of hours. The guy you are critiquing is full to the brim with ego.

[@gerardk51]

Josh (Joshua Chavez) : Masterpiece of Deception.

[@andresvaleriooviedo5297]

Thank you for this video rebuttal Trent, it was very interesting and informative, it also gives me new apologetics tools... Btw, im reading your book "the case for catholicism 👌

[@lemuelcanet5147]

I love Trent Horn and his ability to thoroughly break down what others are saying and pointing out any logical fallacies, implied premises etc. Besides the fact that I need to learn more about the faith, I think what I mostly got from this video is that we (the Catholic Church) should have a Catholic Catechism that doesn't have all of the esoteric language. I want to give Josh the benefit of the doubt here. I love that he's looking straight to the Catechism to show verbatim what we believe to be true, even though there is evidence to suggest that he still looks at what the Church teaches through a distorted lens that Protestantism teaches about the Church. Even though Josh does distort the Catechism to fit his preconceived notions of the Church or to create a straw man fallacy, I think that there could be a sincere and earnest side of him that might want to really get down to it and figure out what we really believe and analyze that. This is why I think we should have a full-on Catholic Catechism that uses simpler language, words that have common meanings with Protestants and the secular world as well. This could potentially eliminate multiple misunderstandings of Church doctrine. I understand that for one thing, despite how easy we could make our doctrines to be understood, there will still be those who reject it in their stubbornness and for another thing that there are already some sources that are like this written by multiple theologians, apologists, and clergy. I simply think that 1 definitive Catholic Catechism written by the usccb and many of the great theologians and apologists that uses simple language, common words, etc. as opposed to a lot of technical jargon, would be really beneficial for those who are sincerely analyzing the Church's teachings, including open-minded protestants and Catholics who don't really know what they ought to believe. If there's already one out there, then I just wasted my time writing this whole spiel lol, but someone let me know if there is, what the exact title of that book is.

[@lusedlor9060]

josh has too much problem on his own interpretation, its scary

[@el_jefe_007]

What do you expect from prots and evangelicals 😂

[@ironymatt]

@Aubrey Shatner @Aubrey Shatner If you've somehow gone this far in life without ever having been informed that brevity is a virtue, now you know, so there's no longer any excuse for the endless copying and pasting. You're only guaranteeing that no one will take you seriously or have any respect for your misguided efforts when you throw up all that nonsense.

[@ironymatt]

@Aubrey Shatner How do you think Jesus likes it when you say that about His mother?

[@ironymatt]

@Aubrey Shatner Why didn't the educational institutions you cited teach you not to engage in the fallacies of circular reasoning and appeals to authority? Or basic syntax, for that matter? Nevertheless, your last post was marginally shorter, so that's some progress at least!

[@ironymatt]

@Aubrey Shatner sheesh! Two baby steps forward, two hundred giant leaps back! The JWs have no authority. You're hitching your cart to a mule without legs.

[@onlylove556]

Does anyone kno what denomination Josh belongs to, cuz idk if he is a eastern orthodox r a protestant, i would assume he is a protestant, but the context of his videos r confusing on what he follows.

[@davido3026]

Renegade

[@onlylove556]

@@davido3026 lol so basically he's his own church. I honestly would like to know what protestant church he goes to. To learn if he's a Baptist, Calvinist, Pentecostal etc etc. Then a person is able to look up their doctrines online, & know what Doctrines they hold to. Then we can show everything that is wrong with their Doctrines in that denomination. I Always find that it's unitarians, or Black Hebrew Israelites. Who never want to claim a church. You ask them okay what do you believe in, what are you, what church do you go to etc etc. And they always say things like I'm a Christian, I follow Christ, I believe in just one God. And that's literally saying nothing at all lol. This is why when I debate people I always get them to tell me what church they go to, or what denomination they're in 1st. b4 I even start the debate with them. That way they don't run from topic to topic.

[@junelledembroski9183]

Love your videos and love you. Great job!

[@biniljosephchacko8718]

God bless you Trent for the work you are doing 😊. Thank you for all the videos