The Cave Creek Platform Collapse | A Short Documentary | Fascinating Horror

[@FascinatingHorror]

This is what happens when budgets are reduced and corners are cut. Be careful out there!

[@mcnippie8822]

Sure will, good luck on this channel!

[@esteemedmortal5917]

If you haven’t heard of it before, the Formosa Fun Coast Explosion is a whole different kind of disaster.

[@iciajay6891]

Why a healthy fear of heights is something you should pay attention to.

[@CrazyBear65]

Corners are cut routinely to reduce expenses and increase profit, as a matter of SOP. That's business. That's one of the ways business operates. Business has no sentiment, business is cold and unfeeling, like a machine. Business only cares about bottom line. All of that needs to change.

[@Cstyle27]

Just found you n ur channel!! Love it!!❤ subscribed!!👊🇺🇸

[@YourFoolishPride]

MAD RESPECT to that kid who ran all the way to call.

[@caseydykes117]

The panic of that run you can bet that kid knew every second could have been a life I really hope they all got a lot of therapy

[@evaniera]

And cave creek is a really long walk through bumpy terrain it's not an easy hike

[@KanyeWestwasRight]

MAD respect to the dude who built that platform

[@MatildaV1980]

I see the assumption in many comments that this accident involved school kids. They were *not* children , the victims were *all* young adults, some of them even in their 30’s. The youngest was 17, the rest of them old enough to vote or older.

[@chrisgoffe5048]

i knew him ..still see him in his red work van now and then

[@angrypossumsx1259]

“The government cannot prosecute itself” what a statement.

[@suzieanderton4239]

WTF not?

[@brettymike]

@@suzieanderton4239 Because they would say not their fault every time. Has to be done by a third party.

[@drdrew3]

@@suzieanderton4239 Good luck suing the government of ANY country. Especially after they’ve also compensated the families and the checks have been cashed. If you get run over by a US Post Office truck you will be offered a check - one time offer, take it or leave it.

[@1Three8Fiver]

The Government prosecuting itself in monetary terms is stupidity, it is literally holding every tax paying citizen to ransom over crimes they couldn't commit, whatever shortfall occurs because of the tax money doled out in compensation WILL be made up through MORE taxation. The government should only be able to CRIMINALLY prosecute government representatives and individuals.

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

He said "The Crown", not "The Government". I'm pointing this out because I believe there is/was a difference, albeit I can't look it up at the moment, for I'm too tired, my apologies. Now, Countries that signed international human rights treaties are always held responsible by their citizens in these cases, and yes, it's with taxpayer money, obviously, that compensations are handed out, because if you voted crap, and crap killed people, then think better the next time you place a ballot, or change the laws. If you do nothing, then you'll keep paying, indirectly obviously, via your taxes, for the mistakes those that won the elections made - because even if you didn't vote for them, you agreed with the system. Regarding those officials in charge, they're going to be held accountable as well, that, though, on a personal basis, with jailtime being a possibility. At the beginning I mentioned a type of international treaties, because powerful countries either opted out, or signed them with conditions or exceptions. However, those governments that signed them without making any observations, gave their people the chance to appeal to international courts should the ones in their Countries fail to provide justice. Cheers and Happy New Year.

[@mattskustomkreations]

I saw a documentary on this tragedy. The guys who built this shouldn’t have been allowed to build a birdhouse. The stupidity was mind-boggling.

[@mattskustomkreations]

wargent99, I agree with you there. Saw that part in the same documentary but it was totally skipped in this video. The kids tempted fate by bouncing on a wobbly overhanging deck.

[@doc2kiwidig663]

It was built by DOC volunteers...🙄

[@Musicposter4you]

@@doc2kiwidig663 The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@scottlarson1548]

The diagram of the design was blurry but it looked like it was cantilevered over some piles, and the only thing keeping it from flipping over was some concrete of "unknown depth". They effectively built a see-saw.

[@kellymartin2603]

'And here we have my newest creation, this bird house...' "Sir, that is an iron maiden!'

[@itsaballoonparty]

I cannot imagine being in the second group and happening upon your dead, dying, and critically injured classmates at the bottom of that chasm. Jesus Christ

[@krashd]

Admittedly it is the group I would rather be in had I chance of the two.

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

Let's get customized to not to stand on flimsy-looking surfaces that happen to be overlooking a chasm to begin with. Then we pick the group of our liking.

[@benhartart9487]

Yep even Jesus Christ couldn’t imagine stumbling upon this mess

[@Jess-jt9fb]

From what was said it sounds like they were there right after. There’s no way they didn’t hear the screams.

[@wiseauserious8750]

Seeing humans in great agony is incredibly traumatic. Saw a lot of that in Iraq and it has never left me

[@deadsoon]

I'm from a third world country where this sort of negligence is seen everywhere, so I'm used to not trusting structures of this kind and keeping away from them. But these were kids from a first world country used to safety and trusting their environment. Absolutely not their fault, they were kids.

[@neiltappenden1008]

Well said

[@lloydhawkins538]

Unfortunately Disaster’s are everywhere just waiting to happen regardless of wealth but usually involving human error, neglect or greed as cause of these disasters

[@anonz975]

They were young adults not kids. Though they did have a park guide with them and that would make most assume it was safe (despite feeling shaky).

[@annehaight9963]

I don't really consider New Zealand to be a third world country.

[@animelover6195]

Same. Here, the platforms can be very safe, and no more than three people would be up at a time. We'd have an unspoken agreement to take turns. Even with three people or less on platforms WE DO NOT JUMP OR SHAKE THE PLATFORMS. One of my friends tried jumping on a canopy to scare us once, he got escorted off by a guide and banned for six months.

[@MegCazalet]

I can’t imagine waiting, in agony, for help while entangled with your dead and dying friends. For two hours. Unconsciousness would’ve been a blessing. I wonder how many had initially survived their horrific injuries and lost their lives in that critical time. The stories of injured people surviving DAYS after a horrific accident, trapped in rubble after earthquakes, bombing, car or plane crashes, building collapses, cave incidents, and such tragedies gives me nightmares, as I’m deeply claustrophobic and paranoid. I also lost a friend in a terrible fall off a cliff on a hiking trip; he and his partner both fell and died, and were actually missing for weeks. I don’t how long they might’ve suffered, if at all, and I don’t think I want to know; not knowing might be better, with the hope they didn’t suffer at all. The human capacity for survival is incredible, even though we are ultimately such strikingly vulnerable creatures.

[@skyl2661]

I'm so sorry to hear this happened to you.. please, please, if you haven't already, seek counseling. You deserve to be able to heal. May your friends rest in peace. And may you find your own peace

[@brandonmay6287]

It’s so sad 😞

[@goodkingcaptain6274]

i relate to this a lot. i'm also very, very claustrophobic. a few years back a friend of mine was struck by a train. the train crushed her car and trapped her inside while she was very badly injured. they had to cut her car open to extract her from it, and in the time it took for the emergency services to arrive with the proper tools to do so, she had died. i think about her and her family all the time. she was only 22 when she died. i think about the nightmare she endured-- and she was just so young. it's been almost 4 years but it still hurts to think about her.

[@tinyshawn1991]

Please seek the help you need. Rest in peace to be your friend and their partner

[@forceuser8214]

I think my fear of death makes theses videos more intriguing to me

[@danielalvarado9019]

They used NAILS on stone to secure a wooden structure. How idiotic!

[@patrick247two]

Correction. The builders of this platform used nails where the plans called for bolts and nuts. The nails simply slid out of their holes due to the load.

[@StamfordBridge]

I’m not an engineer nor a craftsman, and I have the benefit of hindsight now, but I still can’t wrap my head around anyone ever thinking that setup would hold.

[@wrayday7149]

Let’s face it... this isn’t even close to the most embarrassing engineering feat the Kiwis have come up with. Bob Semple

[@lisaschuster9187]

Pitons are used by climbers.

[@lisaschuster9187]

@@wrayday7149, Yes, let’s hold a whole population responsible.

[@wafflecone-w5d]

"The student ran on foot...to call police." Can I get a name for that hero?

[@tabcan]

And it took them 2 hours to arrive. What a miracle.

[@chrisgoffe5048]

Charlotte Musto ..Nick Trainer

[@wafflecone-w5d]

@@chrisgoffe5048 thank you!

[@TheHi_King]

He didn't have to run that far.

[@apemcrape4050]

Stone Benson

[@esteemedmortal5917]

Nails into rocks....🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@nedk09]

Yeah it’s not well explained but basically they had piles concreted into holes in the rocks and the main beams were connected to the piles by nails in a shear connection but there was a piece of wood in between meaning the nails only penetrated the piles by a few mm. so when a group stood at the cantilevered end, the connections nearest the steps failed, the platform overturned and slid off of the rocks.

[@Alex-cb2gf]

Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?

[@antoniononame3037]

Nails have great shearing strenght compared to screws but not great pullout resistance obviously. A bolt should have been the only fastener used in this construction as well as braces that adjoin the platform to the rock structure. Also nailing into rock(masorny materials) are easily done with a ramset tool. Im a general contractor btw

[@FlorSilvestre12]

I audibly swore when I heard that part

[@alfredklek]

@@antoniononame3037 Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to. Nails do not equal shoddy workmanship. They are sometimes (not this time) the most appropriate fastener to use. I'm a carpenter btw.

[@cmonkey63]

I was a backpacker staying in Christchurch, NZ at the time of the accident. My hostel filled with grieving students on their way to the funerals.

[@beth-ug6ti]

@Booger Balls What's wrong with you smh

[@Black0bsidian]

So sorry for them.

[@michellelammi787]

Because the human race always seems to like to have some kind of connection to tragedies.

[@esmereldahipswitch]

So sorry

[@stuartbenson4195]

Thank you for this concise and factual recounting of this tragedy. I was one of the tutors for this group at the time, and so thank you for the respectful way you have handled it. All those involved, both victims and survivors were/are great young people, positive and full of joy. My heart still cries for the families of all those who died. Kia kaha. Rest in peace.

[@bonniehowell4259]

I'm so sorry for your loss. I understand you were not a direct family member. However, as a tutor, I'm sure you created a special bond with your students. It's always upsetting to hear when innocent people lose their lives to gross negligence.

[@ladydi4runner]

Thank you for sharing your first person account. My condolences for your losses. RIP all that perished. 🙏🏻😢

[@marvindebot3264]

Sorry for your loss sir.

[@InterestingFingz]

Poignant remarks. Well said. respect.

[@bunnymad5049]

Stuart, that is so hard. I'm so sorry. One of my pupils had a cousin badly injured, but survived. You'd have known him I guess. I didn't know his name, only that one of my sweet boys came to school telling us his cousin was in hospital after being at Cave Creek. Much love to you and yours. xxx

[@aneubeck4053]

If they didn’t have the funding to build the platform properly they shouldn’t have built it at all. This clearly wasn’t an issue of funding simply lack of accountability.

[@my12spoonswithrose43]

Ummmmm wrong

[@dinkledankle]

It _can_ be both, just as it can be many other things at the same time. However, it no longer matters, so you should focus on something that does.

[@wrayday7149]

This guy, 100k and 6months of “studies” .... I got Ned, he has some lumber and nails and we can have a platform built by Saturday.....whadda say?

[@pamike4873]

@@wrayday7149 Hindsite is always 20/20. A group of volunteers built the platform. They didn't go about it to kill people. There were multiple failures here. The platform itself was built right. It should've been inspected, yes. The volunteers shouldn't have skipped the bolts. People are so quick to judge and it's sickening. Professional designs also fail from time to time. You cannot design for every possible failure that could occur. It's just impossible. There have been many times in every country on earth that something designed and built by professionals fails and ends up costing people their lives. It's just the reality of the life we live. You accept certain risks or never leave the house. And that's the way it is and will be until the end of time.

[@steveclapper5424]

I knew that there was something wrong with this story, you put it into words.

[@risatanaka4444]

One of my classmates from my school, her brother was one of the first group of 18 and unfortunately he was one of 14 dead.

[@Mochrie99]

Oh my god, that's awful! :(

[@whatwillbem6825]

😔

[@Max_R_MaMint]

My sister's cat's owner has a son that once dated a girl who went to school with a guy who was on the platform. Maybe it was him?

[@limaechonumismatics]

@@Max_R_MaMint that’s highly disrespectful

[@Max_R_MaMint]

@@limaechonumismatics So are you

[@eenbankberoven]

Can you do the Ulrikab Family? An inuit family sent to Europe as a human zoo exhibit, each of them died one by one from old world disease

[@cyansloth1763]

Omg that’s horrible :(

No thanks

[@MadTimmy]

@@cyansloth1763 Same thing happened to Pocahontas iirc.

[@jonnoflanno2092]

They all died of smallpox, one by one. Their Norwegian guide 'forgot' or didn't bother to tell the unfortunate family that they had to be vaccinated before leaving for Europe.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Reminds me of poor Sartje Baartman

[@pamiam9017]

As a New Zealander, thank you for covering this, it was a shocking day for the whole country.

[@christnestrider185]

Just read that 3 out of 4 of the survivors from the fall made full recoveries (aside from substance abuse) and one was left wheel chair bound, that's remarkable for 130 foot drop

[@janeadams647]

You have great diction. A pleasure to listen to - despite the gruesome subject matter.

[@victorious1503]

i know. i suffer from insomnia and like to watch his videos before i want to go to bed. his voice is so soothing, i become so relaxed despite the subject matter and it helps a lot.

[@abartel6]

@KZbinINCLUSIVITYWHATAJOKE bruh

[@apseudonym]

he literally has some of the worst vocal fry i have ever heard but his content is good so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@abartel6]

@@apseudonym what does this mean?

[@LaEspe99]

I love death

[@icannotpretend5834]

5:22 Even if they did rebuild the platform I don't think I'd have the nerve to step on it.

[@SadisticSenpai61]

That's probably a large part of the reason why it wasn't rebuilt.

[@TimikinZ]

The photograph at 2:54 is truly chilling. It shows the sheer drop from the platform.

[@talie3578]

I can't tell if those are dead bodies at the bottom or the people who helped clean up the aftermath. Either way, what a haunting picture.

[@thevalorousdong7675]

@@talie3578 It's a mixure of bodies and rescuers

[@Prismatic_Truth]

You can see where the platform was, too... gives me the shivers.

[@RubyBlueUwU]

Dear lord, yeah that picture is horrifying, it really captures the whole thing disturbingly well. Those poor kids…

[@stuffthings1417]

no prosecutions. People are sitting in prison for selling marijuana. We're a lil off on ethics.

[@stuffthings1417]

@@TwizzElishus They shouldn't be prosecuted at all.

[@rp5707]

@@TwizzElishus - But how could I buy beer if people weren't allowed to sell it?

[@rp5707]

@@TwizzElishus - Are you serious? Alcohol is far worse for one's health and is also far worse for society. While driving stoned is bad, it is not even close to as bad as driving drunk. Also, smoking weed doesn't cause violence like alcohol. How many woman have been beaten because the boyfriends are drunk. You really have no clue.

[@stuffthings1417]

@@antoshq1985 I can dismantle your response if you'd like.

[@stuffthings1417]

@@TwizzElishus Yeah, people who drink only have one can of whiteclaw. You left out fifths of vodka and whiskey i noticed, which you can puchase in vast quantities. And those people never drink more than a shot a day. gtfoh

[@AuntyStan]

God i remember this, one of the surviours came and spoke at Nelson intermediate when i attended there. I would have been 11 or 12 at the time

[@jakealden3070]

What sort of things did they say? That must‘ve been quite an interesting talk

[@AuntyStan]

Jake Alden i only remember bits and bobs of it, but he spoke bout life before and after the accident, think he was paralysed cause of it, he didnt remember much of the accident its self, nor much of the rescue or time in hospitial to start with

[@ShellyFossil]

Hey there, my family's from Nelson, the Linton's, lived there for years before moving to the North Island.

[@AuntyStan]

vannessa jenkins hey! My family is the green’s and marshall’s and most of us are still there!

[@ShellyFossil]

@@AuntyStan cool, Marshall's we're familiar with, still have rellies down that way, a great aunt and some cuzzies.

[@rajjy1976]

I was one of the survivors on this fateful day. Thank you for covering this story and keeping it alive in peoples memories 🙏🏽

[@TerryFarrah]

Holy cow! Tell us more about your experience

[@justafox5356]

I yelled “NAILS?!” out loud the second you said it. Holy hell.

[@sirisaacnewton435]

The fact that the government office responsible wasn’t legally prosecuted is pathetic. I don’t care if it’s the government- if they are guilty of manslaughter, they should be charged. Edit: Since half of you seem to think I’m a dumbass- yes I did listen. The parties responsible- namely the people who built the bridge and those responsible for checking it out and ignoring its obvious safety flaws are guilty. I know there was the law in place protecting them, but if I were a family of a member involved, I would file a lawsuit for damages. If anything else, those who are responsible should be fired and banned from every working for the government again. The “engineer” who designed the bridge should lose any licensing they have. I’m not stupid- the whole government can’t nor should be locked up. I’m merely pointing out how the justice system failed and how I wish something could be done. I know it can’t be made right because of the laws in place at the time. I was simply expressing frustration. I’m not ignorant of what he said and I know nothing could’ve been done.

[@22bronwyn22]

Also it is made more complicated by ACC, and NZ laws that mean people can't be sued for accidents as ACC will pay compensation for any accident. Like even today the tour operators who got caught up in the White Island/Whakari eruption can't be sued under NZ law very easily

[@paigeconnelly4244]

You can't enforce laws that don't exist. That's why they CHANGED them afterwards. Didn't you listen?

[@mksabourinable]

Wow it's almost as if New Zealand recognized that exact thing and so they changed the laws afterwards so that they could be held accountable in future. Did you even watch the video through?? Jfc

[@doc2kiwidig663]

Sir Isaac, you are clearly not a New Zealander.

[@farmcentralohio]

So you want the government thrown in jail? Um, think about that lol

[@CountryDoublePlay]

And people wonder why we have building codes.

[@rcfokker1630]

It was a Government entity which had this platform built!

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

15 years ago I would’ve said “does anybody really question why we have building codes?” But the internet has taught me there are an infinite number of people that think infinitely stupid things.

[@LOL60345]

@@MrRyan-wu4jx building codes are important. zoning laws on the other hand...

[@marvindebot3264]

Building and fire codes are all too often written in blood instead of ink.

[@lapeez2277]

@@LOL60345 uhh others might be different but i don't want to live next to a factory or a steel mill

[@johnpriceprice6860]

Reminds me of treehouses we used to build as kids. Its a miracle they didnt just collapse. They should have hired 8 yr olds to build that platform. They could have saved money because they would just build it with materials they found laying around and probably wouldn't need a single nail or screw.

[@Margatatials]

would have been just as safe if not more so

[@skipintroux4444]

The commission found that if the platform had been implemented as designed, and had the intended 5 person maximum sign installed (later found in a drawer), that it would not have collapsed. The full story is a tragedy of errors, for example when the team went to construct it they had forgotten the drill, which is why nails were used instead of the intended bolts. It’s a shocking story.

[@arianebolt1575]

@@skipintroux4444 They also never got permits for it, tried to get something drawn up, incorrectly, after the fact, and didn't register it anywhere so it would get inspected. What a mess.

[@virginiaviola5097]

I often wonder if it wasn’t the treehouses we built as kids and the billy carts too that informed us pretty early on, with the bruises, scrapes and broken bones when things didn’t quite work out as planned, that taught us some valuable construction and engineering tips and dosed up with common sense. And maybe the good old see saw did too..even they are considered too dangerous for playgrounds these days..but there was a lot to be learnt about fulcrums and balance.

[@Jedda73]

There was a similar accident in Australia in the late 80's or early 90's that has been handily erased from history. I vaguely remember a news story of 5 tourists falling about 100m to their deaths in one of the national parks after the ancient viewing platform collapsed.

[@moviemad56]

Whaat?! Have you got any more details? :O

[@Jedda73]

@Winahh Taylahh Like I said this incident seems to have been erased from history, but I remember watching it on the news when I was a kid.

[@Jedda73]

@Winahh Taylahh Sure sunshine, see if I care what you think. I stand by my original post.

[@Jedda73]

When I was young, my sister survived being run over by a freight train. It made international news and I have old news paper clippings of it from various papers, yet there is nothing that can be found about it on the internet. According to an idiots rules, this makes my story a complete lie even though my sister and I were photographed and put on the front page of news papers in the following days.

[@Jedda73]

@Winahh Taylahh Only 3 weeks to man up a response from your mums basement. You really dont hold a candle to your fictional serial killer idol Mick Taylor. But keep screeching on the internet if it makes you feel like you have a pair.

[@PromisingPope]

Someone built that platform... Is their punishment just knowing that they were responsible? I would have wanted them held accountable myself.

[@billgerlach429]

No one told anyone they had to go on this contraption. Sometimes common sense needs to prevail and we need to make our OWN determinations and not just ASSume. Unfortunately.

[@feliz1443]

Who the hell has common sense that tells them never to cross any manmade bridge, platform, or anything that could technically fall? I mean you would have a pretty restricted life

[@billgerlach429]

@@feliz1443 Not as restricted as the dead that fell. You can be aware, or you can be a sheep, like you and the dead folks. You are unable to even quote what I said properly...like most, you make sh*t up in your head. so have a nice trip LOL

[@jefflindeman]

PromisingPope ~No! The builder worked with what they were provided. It may very well have been the builder that stated there should be a limit of 5 people. Had that limit been thoroughly and properly posted, the platform would of likely never presented any problems.

[@DeoxysDNA]

@@billgerlach429 You have no business building anything for the public if it's going to be this flimsy. Especially if it's something hanging over a 100 foot drop. Also using nails instead of bolts? And not installing the 5 person limit sign upon first building it? Regulations are important for a reason.

[@MrNiceguy3210]

Great video. You should cover the Dreamworld theme park water ride accident in Australia, where a raft capsized from colliding with a stationed one.

[@BeczaBot]

Oh gosh, I remember that. It was all over the news for days with frequent updates afterwards.

[@MrNiceguy3210]

It's still a developing story actually. I saw a new report about it just the other day on national TV about the safety equipment they failed to install for the ride.

[@kitsunecookie372]

I went last year in winter, it was really eerie as all the major rides were closed but one had hazard tape around it. I'm English and had no idea why, but now I know. Thank you!

[@alexanderarkum4793]

He did it was the first video of his I watched

[@hep_fulla_pep]

@@alexanderarkum4793 check the date bruh

[@BIGSNAKE16]

"Gee this platform sure does feel flimsy." "OK everyone, pile on." "GOOD WORK AIN'T CHEAP....CHEAP WORK AIN'T GOOD!" That's been my company slogan for 40 years.

[@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798]

Every thing the government does goes to the lowest bidder...

[@wrayday7149]

@@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798 I know a guy, he is good with a hammer and he has some lumber laying around.. for a six pack he will have a platform built in a day..... think of all the money we just saved by avoiding all those pesky surveys.... what do those engineers know anyway, how to overcharge? Come on, let’s go get pissed at the pub. - NZ planning commission - probably

[@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798]

@@wrayday7149 oh! This is in new Zealand! I didn't catch that first time so....... Six pack it is!

[@bcvids9]

Love that!

[@benmaestro6052]

Which of these does your company specialise in tho?

[@punkybrewstar83]

You did amazing with the Maori pronounciation. Kia mihi.

[@prechagirl]

Yes I thought the same

[@nyxiinyx]

I was actually shocked when I heard Papaproa, first bc I don't pay 100% when I bingewatch these videos late at night and I'm VERY not used to my home country being featured, and secondly bc ive almost never heard anyone say Paparoa irl as well as this random foreign youtuber 🤣

[@marvindebot3264]

This guy does real research and would have sure he got it right especially considering the subject matter he deals in.

[@nyxiinyx]

@@marvindebot3264 Te Reo Māori can be hard to figure out- I heard Waitakere pronounced Way Tih Karry by a youtuber who handles sensitive subject often and very well and, to my knowledge, does pretty good research, so this guy deserves credit for getting Paparoa so close

[@ronfalconer1448]

@@marvindebot3264 He failed to mention that the students were "testing the design" by all jumping together - at the outer edge of this structure !

[@utsxslv]

I love how you get right to the point with these videos. Some other channels would have started with each and every child and where they came from and what their hopes and dreams were and get to the actual accident 45 minutes into their video. It's not that I don't feel bad for the people, I just clicked on the video to hear about the accident. And I like how you just tell us about the accident.

[@cathyaudette1060]

I am so afraid of heights, I know I'd have never dared to set foot on that platform. I even hate balconies in condominiums and will politely decline to "come see the view". Oddly enough, I have no problem with boarding a jet, being completely relaxed by taking Xanax and sleeping thru the whole flight.

[@KellyMcnelly333]

Same here! I still wanted a balcony when I got my apartment and can you bet it's on the first floor. I could jump off it and at worst twist my ankle but it's too high for someone to just climb up. Doubles as an emergency fire escape too. Any higher than "falling/jumping off might hurt but you'll be fine" is too high. Yet with flying I'm totally fine I even enjoy it and get bored.

[@towaritch]

@@KellyMcnelly333 It's the same with me however my fear of heights is not that bad when there's water underneath. Last year I even jumped 10 meters in a lake (from a secured spot) I never thought I would be able to do that feat in my dotage.

[@Camwize]

Oddly enough I also don't feel anxiety after taking an anti anxiety drug... funny that

[@SadisticSenpai61]

Well, there's very different risk factors involved with flying and perching yourself on structures that may or may not have been designed/built correctly. And ofc crowding onto a structure that may or may not have been built correctly is always a much higher risk than walking out on it by yourself with no one else on it. It's usually the combined weight of a ton of ppl that result in catastrophic failure in these instances - especially for structures that were designed for small hiking groups to enjoy. I personally can't stand flying, but it has nothing to do with the risk. I always get motion sick on planes, plus they're so damn uncomfortable. I'd rather take a train. Plus trains good, planes bad, horses chaotic neutral.

[@skimaskedabi]

Im afraid of balconies because im 6'9 and my hips (center of gravity) are usually well above balcony railings

[@andrethegiant3035]

I love this guy. Videos short to the point and you get all you need. No filler all substance. Keep up the great work!

[@TheMrBigaussie]

I remember this accident vividly because I was living in NZ at the time. The fact that nobody got prosecuted after building a viewing platform that was held together by nails and not bolts (seriously?) is an utter disgrace.

[@jeiku5041]

This should be a reminder to never cut corners and funds, especially when it's things like this.

[@GuacamoleKun]

After watching a number of these things, I'm just going to start doing my own structural evaluation of any structure I encounter before I interact with it. We're so used to thinking someone much better qualified must have given it a look so there's no use in my dumb ass putting any thought into it, but sometimes it really doesn't require an engineering degree, apparently.

[@jeanninegodwin2285]

@dreamland Always know your exits! I learned this from stock trading years ago. It's definitely true anywhere you are. My Dad always knew his exits and for this reason refused to move to areas without enough exits in case of an emergency.

[@mattlogue1300]

Sometimes I wonder about parks in US too. The design of this was clearly flawed. I can even tell you, just from the drawing. It was un- anchored cantilever, like a see saw.

[@Al-kb2xl]

I remember this so well. I was 12 and lived in Christchurch. Tragedies like this hit our country especially hard being such a small and relatively safe country.

[@ashleykerr6528]

KZbin just recommended this channel for me today. I think I found my new favourite channel. Thank you. Please keep making these videos.

[@ashleyklotz3762]

I have to say this in all honesty, your videos are up my alley for morbidity.. but I think your voice is what keeps me here, I love your voice

[@pumatato2005]

I always binge these before bed and I don’t know why. Never really ends well 🤔

[@briansmith9439]

Interesting channel with great coverage for the episodes I've watched so far. I was already familiar with the Cave Creek disaster and appreciate the succinct yet thorough method of your coverage. A possible topic for a future episode is the arson/fire at the Upstairs Lounge in New Orleans on 24 June 1973 that resulted in 32 deaths - gruesomely displayed for all to see as a photographer captured one of the victims as he burned to death while trying to escape through a barred window. The cause still remains as 'undetermined origin.'

[@Mimi-cq4bg]

Nails. They used NAILS. O. M. GGGGGAAAAAWWWWWDDDD

[@carolinerowles5951]

I know even a shelf on my wall needs to be screwed on or bolted and im crap at DIY!

[@Firstfalconfree]

For real. They weren't building a Fisher Price Birdhouse.

[@tieck4408]

Not a single screw was used in the construction of your house. (Assuming pre-war timber frame.) Just nails and also an engineer.

[@flyingmerkel6]

A hero would have said, "we can't build it to fit in our budget".

[@evegreenification]

Yep and building nothing would have been cheaper, saved money for doing other projects properly.

[@theosphilusthistler712]

Except that they could have. Just a few design changes could have made that safe. What they couldn't have done on their budget was hire a consulting structural engineer to make those simple inexpensive changes. That begs the question of why an organisation with several hundred structures didn't have an engineer on staff.

[@flyingmerkel6]

@@theosphilusthistler712 Some people have an aversion to paying for brains. It's way cheaper than paying for disasters

[@collectivecommentary123]

the real horror: bad engineering.

[@dannyblankenbyl5556]

They had the bolts but forgot to bring them. You didnt mention about the police man who told the doctor to wait here hallf way down the track . Maybe more lives would have been saved if the doctor was allowed to goto the site.

[@diana3599]

did the officer want to make sure it was safe for the doctor?

[@hotaru8309]

Maybe, but the question above me is valid. It's also common for paramedics to stay back from unstable areas and places where they cannot lift the injured from, meaning places where they could not secure the injured or where if they went a certain amount forward they could no longer get any of the victims to an ambulance or helicopter and towards the hospital. So it's unknown which was better. If they could treat more on site, that's good, but if they became another victim or put themselves to a postion where they could no longer reach other victims then less help and treatment would've occured.

[@TheRocketbabydoll]

@@hotaru8309 I also sadly feel, given the well mass trauma casualties and likely limited equipment to hand probably very little that could have been achieved by 1 lone doctor in a park. They needed ASAP airlift and transfer to a trauma centre with emergency theatres and blood on standby.

[@thefonzkiss]

How is a doctor going to get down 100feet with no access? Jump?

[@lorenaarias1952]

Your stories are very interesting. You can tell how well you research for your videos. I enjoy them very much. Thank you.

[@jrg7777]

This reminds me of a rickety set of old wooden stairs in Quebec. I went on it when I was around 10 years old if I remember correctly, and I remember being deathly scared, yet my family kept insisting to go on it. It's hard to remember how tall it was, but it was during an icy season and the drop was definitely very scary. I remember climbing the steps as fast as I could since I wanted to be on them as little as possible.

[@XxXShevampXxX]

I feel like I hardly ever come across something new but this is something I've never heard of before. How terrible....I'm terrified of heights so you won't see me on anything like this, safe or not lol.

[@ecm84ee]

I remember this as a kid. (I live in nz) and it's nice to see a nz disaster highlighted. In a good way of course. Unfortunately nz has alot of disasters the world doesn't know about that are somewhat morbidly interesting. It would be cool if you look into more. Some are Tangiwai, wahine, Mt Erebus, are the more famous ones but there are so many more. Less known one is the hyde railway disaster and how people ended in or on the hot engine is pretty horrific and always stayed with me.

[@lilliths-httyd-channel]

Canterbury earthquakes (2010, 2011, 2016), brunner mine, pike river, rainbow warrior, white island erruption etc

[@alexsetterington3142]

Fay and Richwhite stealing nearly 1 billion dollars from New Zealanders in the early nineties

[@littlebear274]

@@lilliths-httyd-channel I know I'd very much like to see a video on the CTV building collapse in the 2011 earthquake.

[@TentinQuarantino_]

100 feet… ten stories. How terrified they must’ve been. My heart goes out to the victims and their loved ones.

[@jonsmith6982]

they fell 40 meters 130ft ,,this guy does a poor job at reading info off wiki ..

[@steveprice638]

The best video presenter and narrator on KZbin. Well done.

[@Rushmore222]

With reference to final construction guaranteeing the catastrophic failure of a structure, please do an episode on the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse.

[@DerKatzeSonne]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZOteXWLlLF1l5I

[@drewyardley7685]

I remember this happening, it was very sad to see so many young lives lost. It was unusual for something like this to happen in NZ.

[@lauratheexplora5020]

I just feel so bad for the parents of the children of these disasters. Especially the ones that could have been avoided.

[@newdawn8477]

I remember watching this on the news and it sparked a lot of conversations, schools went on a big tangent about bush walks and how to stay safe out in the bush. DOC definitely got a bad name because of it.

[@donwoodward7944]

Stunning negligence. Only 4 survivors. May those who died rest in peace. Trust no one and try to abide by your instincts.

[@TheMalkavianmadman]

I was only about 10 when this happened but I remember it. Props for talking about less well known tragedies from places that don't get looked at alot.

[@jdsteppenzyde]

I like that you do events from both far and near history.

[@annaloye5219]

Thank you for including this. I well remember the absolute horror when it appeared in the evening paper.

[@rask004]

I remember being in school in Auckland when this happened. Such a tragedy. I had hoped it had been a wake-up call to take construction protocols and regulations more seriously, but over the years we continued to have tragedies like this. The building collapses in the Christchurch Quakes and the White Island Disaster spring to mind most readily, but there have been other events such as extreme tourism accidents, the Rena grounding, and the Pike River Mine tragedy. I believe there is an issue of deregulation or poor funding leading to corner cutting risking lives, and also a lax attitude amongst a minority of people linked to the construction industry. Recently we had the SkyCity roof fire, no one died, but the whole thing was from someone not checking a torch had been turned off before going for a break. The Christchurch Cctv tragedy was from delegating design safety verifications to an inexperienced employee (possibly an intern) without a double check from a senior engineer. And I think when one government improves safety regulations, another deregulates citing business freedoms.

[@Dirvinator]

I was born in New Zealand 1995 and I'd never heard of this tragedy before. Something to surreal hearing about something so close to home.

[@thatsnotright7260]

I’m from New Zealand and I remember when this happened it was a major news story and many people still talk about it

[@InterestingFingz]

I was travelling for work and was in Greymouth that day. Not nice!

[@Dabestcryevar]

Love this guys videos, but I always watch them in bed and fall asleep before I can get through 2 of them. This channel is my melatonin

[@rice2679]

Proud of you man, close to 1k subs!

[@FascinatingHorror]

Thanks! It's been so cool seeing this grow, and seeing that I'm not the only one interested in learning about disasters!

[@charlieapples9373]

Holy crap...that’s increased to 30k subscribers in 3 months.

[@rice2679]

Charlie Apples it was like 23k yesterday 😂

[@Mynervas]

Here we are in May 2021 at 442k subs! What an increase! Well deserved

[@rice2679]

@@Mynervas Insane, the growth he's recieved. Totally deserving of it.

[@sdraper2011]

I love your narrations and how you include the positives that came out of the tragedy. This is my new favorite channel!

[@rikidawson7510]

I went to that polytech that year. And this is what really happened. They got to the platform and one of them said i wonder how strong this is, and a few of them started to jump up and down on the platform, then it gave way. It was a very said day. As that polytech only had about 200-300 students. We all knew who died.

[@phattjohnson]

Probably trying to show off / scare the ladies.. bit of darwinism at play in this one too sadly :(

[@abbieharper2809]

Can’t wait to see your channel blow up! Amazing videos and research done. Wishing the absolute best for you!

[@filipsperl]

Damn it, this is tragic. Why must every improvement be started only after deaths of tens of innocent people?

[@seandelap6268]

This is one of my favourite channels on youtube.

[@lynneshively3790]

A documentary was done on this and it was done really well. It's titled, "Cave Creek a National Tragedy".

[@mandoprincess9813]

I stumbled across your channel the other day and I must say, I absolutely love your videos. Definitely not the usual videos other channels post and I love it. Please keep making them

[@sonicleaves]

I think about all the times I just blindly trusted different places and structures throughout my life... I especially get a weird feeling in the bleachers among many people, where it is completely full like at the demolition derby. This channel made me question everything.

[@ProfRavenSteel]

Watching this on 28th April 2020. May they all rest in peace.

[@jacobmasterz8278]

It's 2021 now

[@cubbi2789]

This reminds me of the dreams of falling I’ve had as a kid. I always slept all the way through said dream and the bottom were jagged rocks. So sorry for the victims

[@gremlinjerky8462]

This case has always been one to haunt me.. it just leaves me absolutely livid every time I am reminded of it. May they Rest In Peace 💜

[@garywheeler7039]

Skyways, balconies, reviewing stands, viewing platforms, can all be death traps if they are not designed and inspected properly.

[@marvindebot3264]

And all too often are, we had a series of house balcony collapses here in Australia a while back, a lot resulted in multi deaths.

[@garywheeler7039]

@@marvindebot3264 : there was one near here in Berkeley California several years ago. Where a group of foreign tourists were on a balcony, maybe catcalling at girls below on the street. Sad. Sometimes wood rot can be hidden behind stucco or other finishes.

[@christophermathern6796]

I swear to god I’m going to be watching these the rest of the night Thanks a lot

[@Gusto20000]

“Department of conservation” killed 14 people, what an irony

[@duckheadbob]

these videos are great. i love a quick bite of info on some disasters and how the community responded after. its great

[@frogmama6786]

I absolutely love your stuff, its impossible to find videos +/- 10mins long that arent some obnoxious idiot counting down some top ten list about the topic or a robotic voice narrator

[@z0mbie.beast125]

Binge watching his videos all day. Now i wonder how any of us survived the 80's and 90's

[@katwilliams2950]

Thanks for the video. I love this channel.

[@michaelschweizer4772]

This channel is outstanding, thank you.

How do you hammer nails into rock?

[@WyattRyeSway]

John ....I was wondering that

[@aimeedouglas1584]

Apparently not very well

[@shelbypatterson4655]

Very carefully

[@Nenezilla]

You don't.....hence this incident.

[@antoniononame3037]

A ramset fires a .22caliber round at the head of the nail basocally shooting it with great force into concrete and other masonry materials- im a general contractor.

[@j.d.e.7416]

This story definitely flitted through my mind when I stepped out onto a viewing platform at Blackwater Falls State Park.

[@mitchellstephens08]

Just stumbled upon this channel .. Horror stories is my favorite in the genre, but KZbin has mad it beyond difficult to put his accurate professional content out to his fans😡 That being said I likey so far🤠☠️〽️

[@Thumbsupurbum]

Yea, it's hard to find one now a days that isn't some fake creepy pasta horse shit.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

This video wasn't especially accurate though, it gave same incorrect information and left out quite a lot, particularly in regards to the construction.

[@laughinghawk8522]

Did not know about this one. Good to see a channel bringing light to lesser known tragedies and incidents.

[@superchickenlips1]

This is how the world works. Like, here in the UK you will the word 'slow' painted on the road just before a nasty bend. That means someone died there at some point. If it's written multiple times then it happened multiple times.

[@PhatsyKline]

I love your channel!

[@Michelle-fi3ze]

Nails? Like wtf! I love your narration. Informative and and easy listening.

[@PuffKitty]

One of my favorite things about your videos is that you convert measurements into familiar terms for Americans; I like that I don't have to stop and look up metric conversions. 🙂

[@NormalizeBeingNormal]

New favorite channel I've been binge watching..love from the USA

[@slothmarathonpromotions2470]

Department of conservation needs to invest in some damn radios. Having kids running miles to a house in an emergency is not being well prepared. Yikes.

[@ckrause81]

this channel is so underrated. im binge watching as much as i can as im sick in bed

[@wendillon92]

One detail people always seem to overlook is that the first group of students (who had their trip without incident) admitted that they bounced and jumped on the platform because they thought the way it flexed was cool. Of course they never meant any harm, but they were one link in the disaster chain, which is why people were hesitant to charge anyone.

[@BobMuir100]

Gotta say, you take me to some dark places and show our stupidity and lack of care for those who choose to trust us. Thank you for keeping it sound.

[@Lizablue0608]

NZ is beautiful..such a senseless tragic that should have NEVER HAPPENED. It’s heartbreaking to see just because someone thought cutting corners was a good idea. And especially not inspected properly. So sad..🤭 ☹️

[@lastofthe4horsemen279]

This wasn't entirely true .the kids were jumping and shaking the flimsy platform so the force of silliness pulled it loose. It would have collapsed in time but to jump is to invite the reaper.

[@launchsquid]

@@lastofthe4horsemen279 victim blaming of the highest order. No viewing platform, if built to code, would collapse, even if some youths were jumping. The blame will always remain on the Department of Conservation. 100%.

[@MichaelW132]

I'm not sure that DOC did that out of pure malice, chronic underfunding from governments of the day has long been an unfortunate occurrence with DOC, who are told to do more with less. It should have been a wakeup call to improve DOC funding but sadly that hasn't happened even to this day.

[@ragnarlothbrok5369]

Gr8 work .... Especially ur narration with deep tone and background score f..kn awesome.. I also feel sorry for the fate of the victims.. RIP