The Cawnpore Massacre, India 1857

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The History Chap

The History Chap

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@1TruNub
@1TruNub Жыл бұрын
Excellent video I wish more people who studied history were as objective as you are you tell Both sides of the story not just one Please keep up the good work
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Very kind of you. Thanks.
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 Жыл бұрын
@@rajsinghji-84 You become tiresome, Mr. Rajput. It's really not for you, being of an heritage far more infamous than any Brit, to lecture anyone. If my ancestors were so nasty, what would that make yours, as their jack-boots - as you would term them? Very few Rajputs mutinied, sweetheart. Best wishes, nonetheless.
@ahambrahmasmi9776
@ahambrahmasmi9776 Ай бұрын
Dirty bloody hands are covered with cloves. Dont expect humanity from animals.
@edanvirata3382
@edanvirata3382 Жыл бұрын
Brillant historical video cant wait for the next one.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Archi.x002
@Archi.x002 Жыл бұрын
I found this channel today, eagerly waiting for the next part sir👍🏻
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Working on it as we speak. Please subscribe so you don't miss next episode. www.thehistorychap.com
@jon9021
@jon9021 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent episode. The retribution the British Army and Government brought against the mutineers, (“remember Cawnpore!”), may have been disproportionate, but it was definitely “effective”…for want of a more suitable word.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@cheramanirumborai7181
@cheramanirumborai7181 Жыл бұрын
Yes. 6,000 Brits died in the mutiny but 800,000 Indians died from related events!
@djmoh.6509
@djmoh.6509 Жыл бұрын
Happy to see UK doing down. UK represents terror, evil and dirty people.
@douglasherron7534
@douglasherron7534 Жыл бұрын
@@cheramanirumborai7181 Your comment has the same ring of truth as that promise of safe passage to Gen.Wheeler...
@phoenix51472
@phoenix51472 Жыл бұрын
​@@douglasherron7534 for every British dead (who invited you to come to India anyway) a thousand Indians died in famines and massacres thanks to the British
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 Жыл бұрын
10:02 All the rebel sepoys were ex British employees. They were instrumental in subjegating of the Indian subcontinent by the British. All the various Indian Princes 🤴 , Maharajahs and Nawabs swore loyalty to the British and stayed loyal. These rebels had no idea of Indian independence. They were simply disgruntled ex-employee. The 'first Indian War of Independence', it was a soundbite invented by Karl Marx, writing ✍ for the New York Times 📰.
@stormshadow5283
@stormshadow5283 Жыл бұрын
The term wasn't coined by Marx but by VD Savarkar
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@IntheBlood67
@IntheBlood67 Жыл бұрын
Like the Maps! Bophal rings a bell!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@wonderworld7721
@wonderworld7721 Жыл бұрын
It is Bhupal, not "Bophal".. there is a case call 'Bhupal gas tragedy', is an another case/event from Bhupal in modern time, can check it... same as chernobyl ..
@IntheBlood67
@IntheBlood67 Жыл бұрын
@@wonderworld7721 Thanks for the correction. I remember when it was a major event on the evening News. I always remembered it as the "Bhopal Tragedy".
@IntheBlood67
@IntheBlood67 Жыл бұрын
I just checked it out,slick! It was Bhopal after all! Gosh, I had forgotten to place an h in the spelling!
@philk4546
@philk4546 Жыл бұрын
The Cawnpore Massacre features in Fraser's "Flashman in the Great Game", and as always Flashy is in the thick of things, despite his best endeavours to the contrary. Fraser's attention to historic detail is stunningly impressive. How he weaves it all into a rollocking tale of misadventure is a great literary achievement - a hallmark of the "Flashman" series of novels.
@kleinjahr
@kleinjahr Жыл бұрын
Roger that!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I think a video about Flashman would be fun!
@robertmarsh5960
@robertmarsh5960 Жыл бұрын
Love the Flashman books!
@nigelmansfield3011
@nigelmansfield3011 Жыл бұрын
@@robertmarsh5960 Best books ever
@simondavies4603
@simondavies4603 Жыл бұрын
Excellent books, great story-telling, and impressively accurate recounting of notable events during the Victorian era. Flashy got around!
@kmorton54
@kmorton54 Жыл бұрын
In the original Errol Flynn "Charge of the Light Brigade," it featured a version of Cawnpore massacre. Of course, in the movie, it happened before the Crimea War. So much for accuracy. Great Video Chris. I really enjoy being subscribed to your channel
@Isildun9
@Isildun9 Жыл бұрын
True enough. Additionally, in the Warhammer 40k novel, "Imperial Glory" by Richard Williams, one of the focal points of background lore for the protagonist regiment, the Brimlock Dragoons, is a mutiny by several units during the siege of a world called Cawnpore, sparked by a brutal officer named Carmichael. It took me some time to realize that the story in that novel is very heavily influenced by Britain's colonial wars of the Victorian era, specifically in Afghanistan, India and South Africa. It's a decent read.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub. yes, the Errol Flynn movie plays fast and loose with history.
@robertmarsh5960
@robertmarsh5960 Жыл бұрын
One wonders why they called the movie "The Charge of the Light Brigade"...it has nothing to do with it until the last few minutes and then the connection is highly tenuous. An early example of history being rewritten.
@bibekjung7404
@bibekjung7404 Жыл бұрын
ALMIGHTY GOD KABIR--- .. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@douglasherron7534
@douglasherron7534 Жыл бұрын
@@robertmarsh5960 That's Hollywood for you! (Reminds me of a certain film about a Scottish freedom fighter...)
@eriktenhag2022
@eriktenhag2022 Жыл бұрын
One of the darkest moments in Indian history, along with Jallianwala Bagh. Indian historians only prefer to show things from our perspective, this is not mentioned in any school textbooks in India. History should be taught from an unbiased perspective.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. History also has consequences and it is not beyond the realms that General Dyer believed that another Indian uprising could result in another Cawnpore massacre. I don’t support his actions at Amritsar but you can see a warped logic.
@rdsc.455
@rdsc.455 11 ай бұрын
​@@TheHistoryChapEuropeans excessive imagination of artificial threats of the future !! The same rehortic is continuing presently regarding China and Russia !!
@aheat3036
@aheat3036 5 ай бұрын
Now Modi and his supporters are attacking and killing their fellow Indians who happen to be Muslims, Sikhs and Dalits!
@Krishnan.V
@Krishnan.V 5 ай бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap I agree with your view pertaining to Dyer, but i feel terrible as to why the soldiers who were indians, choose to obey dyer. in school we were taught about the retribution given to sepoys, with the image of the sepoys being tied to cannon fire and then blasted away. There is no mention of Kanpur massacre, it is a very dark history, the teachers would also tell us that the british too faced hostilities, and no further details would be told.
@JamesBongo
@JamesBongo 2 ай бұрын
​@@rdsc.455imagination? But it literally happened lol
@deepakshandilya5528
@deepakshandilya5528 Жыл бұрын
More than a lakh civilians were killed in awadh(oudh as you call it), villages were burnt down to ashes & you are crying about your 200 Europeans.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Not crying. Telling a story, which it seems you prefer to ignore because it doesn't fit your world view.
@redeyexxx1841
@redeyexxx1841 10 ай бұрын
Well we already read it on our history books. And the narrator himself says the British retaliation was disproportionate. The crux is our history cleverly eliminate parts of history to elevate the image of our freedom fighters. I was taught in schools that Indian freedom fighter only target British govt officials or military generals but it turn out to be false. Freedom fighters killed and massacred British civilians as well. Why is it not there in history books??
@errrrrshhhhh
@errrrrshhhhh 4 ай бұрын
Wtf were they civilian? All came here to colonize us. All were colonizer​@@redeyexxx1841
@jsbedi60
@jsbedi60 Жыл бұрын
Indian Historians call it the " First War of Independence" Never mind the fact that there were no subsequent "wars of independence" 1857 was a sepoy mutiny that snowballed into a widespread mayhem with individual kings jumping in to , basically, grind their own axe. There was no centralized command structure and no common game plan. Indian subcontinent was a mass of kingdoms and principalities, big and small , and each was technically an independent country. The concept of a united India really blossomed in the late 1800s when Allan Octavian Hume founded the Indian National congress in the 1880s. Annie Besant would also join the Indian National Congress and become President circa 1917 / 1918. But fact remains that the 1857 war / mutiny brought out the worst barbaric and brutal demons in what were essentially human beings. Both sides competed with each other in the most heinous cruelty . Sadly, some 150 something years later we still havent learnt of the futility of legalized mass murder ....................... aka WAR
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
@Cryboutet
@Cryboutet Жыл бұрын
Wrong, the term BharatVarsha dates back to ancient Mahabharata times and there are sanskrit and Tamil text which resemble that they had close affinity with each other, other than Hindu principles. A.O hume came very late in picture and sorry brits weren't the ones who united they rather extorted Indian masses to their favor
@jsbedi60
@jsbedi60 Жыл бұрын
@@Cryboutet There is no factual evidence that Mahabharat and Ramayan actually happened. Mythology is always a mix of fact and fiction. Now, Ramayana supposedly happened 40 to 70 Thousand years ago. That is the time when Neanderthals roamed the planet. So were the Ramayan characters neanderthals ??? Read actual established history and not invented history that RSS loves to peddle.
@adisura9904
@adisura9904 Жыл бұрын
Another great video mate. Can't wait for you to cover the Queen of Jhansi. Did you know there is a poem called "jhansi Wali Rani" (the queen from jhansi) that is taught even today in schools. Further, 1857 mutiny/rebellion/war of independence is not known in great detail to most. However you're doing a great job covering it in such a balanced way. I'd love to see you cover the Jalian walah bagh incident sometime. I believe it's very important to know history as it happened with an unbiased lense. Only then can we forgive the sins of our past and get along with each other better. Just to accept that wrongs were done, and crimes were committed, is bigger than any monitary sum as compensation.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
The Rhani (Queen) of Jhansi is coming soon. Need to get siege of Lucknow out of the way first. I will cover the Amritsar Massacre at some stage later thgis year (along with the Black Hole of Calcutta).
@adisura9904
@adisura9904 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap that's good to know. Looking forward to it. Cheers mate 🍻🍻
@douglasherron7534
@douglasherron7534 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap I presume the Jhansi video will also include the massacre of women and children there too?
@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb
@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb 9 ай бұрын
​@@TheHistoryChapyou haven't covered anything. Who will tell about the 10 million civilians that the British killed?
@AlejandroGermanRodriguez
@AlejandroGermanRodriguez Жыл бұрын
In the movie The Charge of the Light Brigade (1936) there is an scene in the river, very similar to your description. Obviously inspired by this event. One of those who escapes is Errol Flynn.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Someone else has just made the same comment.
@JohnM-cd4ou
@JohnM-cd4ou Жыл бұрын
Errol Flynn was the original Flashman
@shaalvinsharma3971
@shaalvinsharma3971 Жыл бұрын
Indian history books especially school books are silent about these horrible massacres. They only make passing references about killing of women and children in the heat of the battle. Your description of events has shaken my belief on people who we Indians consider as heros.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
The fascinating thing about history is that it is all about perspectives. One person's hero is another person's villain.
@Inaf1987
@Inaf1987 Жыл бұрын
Even Nana Sahib and Mahakarnika were looking out for their own interests. If you look at which political parties benefited the most from a negative portrayal of the British, one can see why the history books covered these massacres like that.
@DaveCollins123
@DaveCollins123 Жыл бұрын
Is there a nation on earth who can't say the same? In the end, we are all as bad as each other....
@mayanksingh3395
@mayanksingh3395 Жыл бұрын
They are still Heros to Billions of Indians including me. If I could go back in time. I will participate in this incredible act. No wonder everyone hates you Br*****s.
@DaveCollins123
@DaveCollins123 Жыл бұрын
@@mayanksingh3395 So happy to murder women and small children?
@severanfenrir4051
@severanfenrir4051 Жыл бұрын
Have you read Byron Farwell’s Books Armies of the Raj and Queen Victoria’s Soldiers. Both are incredibly comprehensive works cover this time period and subjects.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Yes I have. Often use as one of my sources.
@trajan098117
@trajan098117 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode. Even handed and fair account of one of the saddest parts of the revolt. Much appreciated and I am really looking forward to the next episode on this subject.Thank you for all your hard work.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support.
@rodeastell3615
@rodeastell3615 Жыл бұрын
An absolutely riveting history lesson. Thank you so much Chris.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure.
@thomassamuel9388
@thomassamuel9388 Жыл бұрын
The gory details as explained could happen only in North India especially states like UP and Bihar, even now the other states people think of them as lawless and treacherous.
@stormshadow5283
@stormshadow5283 Жыл бұрын
Sad that the Indians showed restraint. Should've been more brutal on the occupying Brits. There should be no mercy upon Invaders.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@vamshikallem948
@vamshikallem948 Жыл бұрын
They are the lions of India, only if the rest of the Indians behaved like them that would the end of all Britishers in India.
@thomassamuel9388
@thomassamuel9388 Жыл бұрын
@@vamshikallem948 They are lions when dealing with women and children but when it comes to real men they turn out to be wet pussy cats running for dear life to as far as Turkey to Nepal.
@vamshikallem948
@vamshikallem948 Жыл бұрын
@@Adam-nu9gu The Widow Makers of the Europeans.
@abhishekpawar8458
@abhishekpawar8458 Жыл бұрын
Very informative and unbiased video. Though I doubt whether it was really Tatya Tope who was responsible for bibighar massacre. The rebels were hard to control and could have taken this heinous action on their own. Whatever the case, such genocide should have never happened.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding your perspective on Tatya Tope.
@abhishekpawar8458
@abhishekpawar8458 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap Could you please also create a video on second anglo maratha war. I searched for it online but found very less informative videos. Would love to hear about Wellesley's feats in your voice
@None-wi2co
@None-wi2co Жыл бұрын
Some info provide here is NOT entirely correct. East India company (EIC) did not took over former Mughal province of Bengal-Bihar in 1757. EIC assisted another individual who was more favorable to EIC to become the ruler of the province. in 1764 battle of Buxar was fought between the triple entente (consisting of the rulers of the provinces of Bengal-Bihar, Awadh and the Mughal Emperor) against EIC. This was again a victory for the EIC. As per the terms of the peace treaty EIC was given the right collect taxes from the province of Bengal-Bihar on behalf of the Mughal Emperor as a compensation. In other word, they became imperial "tax collector". Finally in 1772, Warren Hastings abolished Nizamat (local rule by the Mughal Emperor appointed rulers) and took complete control of the former Mughal province of Bengal-Bihar. From then on, EIC fought relentlessly wars after wars (against Mysore, Marathas, Sikhs, Nepal, Afghans, Sindh, Burma, Assam, Baloch etc..), to expand their territorial control over large parts of South Asia. In 1947, there were still 565 "autonomous" Princely States and 11 British controlled provinces. These Princely states were ruled by Native Princes, but they pledged their allegiance to the British monarch. These vassal States covered more land than those provinces under direct British control.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to provide your in-depth comment.
@kartikeymishra7417
@kartikeymishra7417 Жыл бұрын
Well being an Indian listening to the revolt makes think about what the Britishers did to my nation, it wasn't theirs in first place. I won't call them heroes.. ("A burglar ransacks your house and stubs his toe, well you can call it sacrifice on both ends, well that's not an acceptable argument") -.Sashi Tharoor Perhaps it was the first time ever that company got to taste it's own medicine. Not a bias but a reality, hate will lead to more hate. I have nothing against British people now as my country surpass the GDP of our colonizer reminding of the legacy by an indian origin PM.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
@javed2783
@javed2783 Жыл бұрын
India was an invention of British that which shashi tharoor didnt teach you. Without them, there would never have been a united India but only several rival countries within the subcontinent. Btw 1.4 billion country surpassing 60 million country GDP isn't a big deal. Infact it shows failure that Indian took so long to make it because it was governed by corrupt leaders for so long.
@Ukfairgrounds
@Ukfairgrounds Жыл бұрын
India is still poor and 3rd world Britain is still far better and your lucky the British empire helped India
@redeyexxx1841
@redeyexxx1841 10 ай бұрын
Well I'm Indian and yes it wasn't their place. But I'm more disappointed with the selective history we're taught at schools. They say no British civilians were murdered and only army officials and generals or government heads were targetted. False! They killed countless British women and children's as well. Why put a screen over dark side of our fighters and only highlights British atrocities?? Secondly, GDP?? What's the population of British?? Hardly anything compared to India. It's obvious a big populous country like us will surpass them. The question is when are we going to surpass them in GDP/capita?? That's the actual way of measuring it.
@sailendrayalamanchili4126
@sailendrayalamanchili4126 Жыл бұрын
The bengal army consisting mostly of upper caste Brahmans and Rajputs along with Muslims from Awadh was used to conquer the Sikhs and Gorkhas who had occupied Garhwal and Kumaon. The East India Company then recruited these warriors in large numbers. (Sikhs and Gorkhas)The Bengal Army ,which had mutinied ( ,because of the issue of cartridges greased with beef and pork tallow, which had to be opened by biting of the end, before loading of the newly issued Enfield rifle) was crushed with Sikh and Gorkha troops , who took this opportunity to avenge their earlier defeat by these Bengal Army regiments. The British stopped further recruitment from eastern u.p. and Bihar , and those soldiers who managed to escape the vengence of the British became outlaws, surviving in the rugged ravines and forests of Bundelkhand. Many of them migrated to south india and settled down there.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to write this in-depth post
@davidmacnab5213
@davidmacnab5213 Жыл бұрын
Would love to know your thoughts on the origins of the Begum's manifest hatred towards her helpless prisoners. One could call it psychopathic, but one would like to try to understand her merciless determination to exterminate everyone in the Bibighar.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Not sure why she had this view. Her lover also hated the British. It seems that his mother might have been one of their “camp followers” and he was ashamed and loathed them in equal measure.
@MDsteeler1
@MDsteeler1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, very interesting. Never heard of this before. The Black Hole of Calcutta yes but not this event. I feel so bad for the children.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Black Hole of Calcutta is coming later this year.
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 Жыл бұрын
The boats didn't have their rudders (a fact which would doom them) which suggests that it was all planned in advance. The British also got the same account independently from multiply mutineers they questioned about the massacre being ordered to start. On top of this the period history book I was just reading said that wheeler was killed separately from everyone else as he was carried due to injury (don't know how reliable that is however as it's very much a popular history rather than a first hand or more dry account). It should be noted that the vengeance was much less than many military men wanted, later on in the conflict pardons were offered and a good deal of the personal accounts condemn them and the civil service who came up with them. Also both British and Indian troops were deeply effected by Cornpore (or cowpor as I generally call it despite the claim that that is an outdated version turning up in a letter from around this time period, I like the fact that it gives it connection to cowpens, another momentous event in shaping the future of the British empire), the European military families were a small society in India and even if one wasn't somehow related though marriage to someone else you would almost certainly know them or of them, with so many being killed almost every soldier of long service would have had to a great or lesser extent have know someone (and probably many someone's) who were killed, this is one of the reasons why all concept of mercy were largely abandoned, if you were an officer looking at that house or well and knowing that your sister-in-law and her children ended up there or if you were a common soldier (Indian or European) who had bobbed one of those children up and down on your knee and let them play with your hat while resting when passing through the station then it becomes very apparent why the reaction was raw undiluted guttural rage. It likewise made the issue of who was on the side of justice self explanatory not only to the British but to everyone around them (and as it was largely emotional anyone who disagreed was libel to actual danger of being killed or savaged), from a purely political perspective it was basically the biggest gift to the British cause the rebels could have given and it basically sunk any actual hope of the rebellion succeeding.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
For what it is worth, I think evidence points to the fact that is was planned. Especially after the previous massacre.
@tankgirl2074
@tankgirl2074 Жыл бұрын
Sources???
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 Жыл бұрын
The less reliable source I spoke about is The Tale of the Indian mutiny by William Henry Fitchett. The personal accounts are varied and all of the one's I have read are kindle editions published by Normanby Press, most of the one's which touch on Cowpore are mostly talking about controversies at the time, whether the women were dishonored before death and the exact state of the house (an account which was almost certainly embellished considerable had been published and it seems like they were mostly focused on responding (indirectly for the most part) to it and also attempting to dispute general rumours which got about at the time itself), with them talking about there having been no possibility of children being hung on meathooks and the like as had got around a great deal at the time. Cononel George Bruce Malleson has an extensive history but I can only presume it is one of the more reliable as it bored me to tears, however that's the only one of Normanby's on the Indian mutiny I haven't read unless I missed one somewhere, if I recall there is one by Mowbray Thompson which is not published by them but pertains directly to cowpore so that also might be good. I can't give you page numbers or the like as I've been causally reading them over the past year. As many of them are just compilations of diary entries and letters from the period they give you a very good view of people's perspectives at the time.
@simplyphil.photography164
@simplyphil.photography164 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris for the 3rd and final part, really enjoyed; it's nice to relive the memories of History, l can only just remember the lessons we had about life in India under the East India Company some 55y years ago, l like history
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad that you are enjoying. Thanks for your support.
@floorskins1108
@floorskins1108 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap Nana sahib was currying flavour ,,,,,me thinks,,,taint half hot mum,,,,,SHUTUP
@whitewinederarck2253
@whitewinederarck2253 Жыл бұрын
Thank you again Mr Green. Illuminating our incredible history in such a balanced and factual manner, a style that seems to have disappeared in recent times. Your work is so appreciated. Thank you , Derek.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words.
@stevefisher117
@stevefisher117 Жыл бұрын
Well produced and researched. Fascinating story as I have been to the modern city myself.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@0ldb1ll
@0ldb1ll Жыл бұрын
The point of strapping people to cannons and blowing them apart was that their bodies would never be able to be put back together and so they would not be reborn. It was a Hindu punishment; the Muslims believe that, if you die in battle, then you automatically go to heaven.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@curiouskid1547
@curiouskid1547 Жыл бұрын
It was invented by mughal so you are incorrect.
@douglasherron7534
@douglasherron7534 Жыл бұрын
There had been other civilian massacres before Cawnpore - notably that at Jhansi on 8th June. Also, the promise of safe passage that turned out to be a lie is eerily reminiscent of the situation during the retreat from Cabul/ Kabul in 1842...
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@douglasherron7534
@douglasherron7534 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap Thanks for another excellent video!
@davidreid8075
@davidreid8075 Жыл бұрын
When I visited Kanpur in the 1990's schoolchildren came up to me and apologised for the massacre of 1857. Amazing!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
That’s interesting thanks for sharing
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 6 ай бұрын
... Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@aheat3036
@aheat3036 5 ай бұрын
If that’s true, then you can forget about it today under their dictator Narendra Modi!… He blames everyone else for India’s abject failures except for himself and his supporters!
@ShubhamKumar-vd9xy
@ShubhamKumar-vd9xy 3 ай бұрын
Why are you apologising 😒👎
@rhythmmandal3377
@rhythmmandal3377 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, have you Brits ever apologised for any of the massacres you have committed???
@anupamchakrabarti4657
@anupamchakrabarti4657 Жыл бұрын
According to some Indian historians, the first shot was fired from the boat. But, anyway, whatever the truth, it was a most despicable event. The other one was simply ghastly. The Bibi, the mastermind, without whom the butchers wouldn't have arrived, however somehow escaped!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this sad chapter in history.
@nathanappleby5342
@nathanappleby5342 Жыл бұрын
More good and tragic stories. I am learning things in this series I haven't learned before. Keep rolling them out Chris!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad that you are finding interesting.
@tedgreen6
@tedgreen6 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your remarkable storytelling. Growing up in the states, I was taught nothing of "The Indian Mutiny" you describe. How shocking to learn about the details. My God, the suffering of the innocents! When the oppressed become the oppressors, watch out.
@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb
@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb 9 ай бұрын
Oppressed become the oppresors ? What a joke the British killed 10million + people just after the mutiny
@ioannisstratakis7930
@ioannisstratakis7930 Жыл бұрын
The character of Cpt. Gordon, an Irish despised by the Anglos and beloved by the locals who also forms a relationship with an Indian woman, in the 2005 Indian movie "The Ballad of Mangal Pandey" is heavily influenced by Sir Hugh Wheeler
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@ioannisstratakis7930
@ioannisstratakis7930 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap furthermore the sepoy mutiny and a siege through not specified are part of the plot in an episode of the adventures of Sherlock Holmes by the title of the crooked man which is the tale of a soldier that was captured and forced to endure years of torture and slavery resulting in severe deformities. It's fascinating how close and dear India was to the heart of people just a century ago especially looking at it through Doyle's writings where everyone who is anyone has been in India serving in some capacity.
@bazzatheblue
@bazzatheblue Жыл бұрын
So many Britons went to India to serve the company ,the civil service or the military and as a consequence many were born there and lived their whole lives there in the 250 years of its colonisation and today after so many years since 1947 there are few left and it seems so remote now but they are still around,famously actress Joanna Lumley who was born in India.her father was an administrator of a region I believe,but that time is drawing to a close and soon it’ll be just for the history books .I’m sure there are Anglo Indians around still but not sure where they consider home.
@abhijeetmacho1027
@abhijeetmacho1027 Жыл бұрын
He converted into Muslim religion and was with mutineers and he killed many in Delhi
@anthonytroisi6682
@anthonytroisi6682 Жыл бұрын
Princess Diana reportedly was the descendent of an Anglo-Indian union. Merle Oberon had Indian heritage that she tried to keep hidden. Other famous people of Anglo-Indian descent are Vivien Leigh, Ben Kingsley, and George Orwell.
@dipanjandatta1689
@dipanjandatta1689 Жыл бұрын
I really feel sorry for those hapless European women and children who were mercilessly slaughtered in Cawnpore and other places
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Murdering civilians is always a low no matter who does it.
@adityapandey7798
@adityapandey7798 Жыл бұрын
English is not my language and i loath to use it, so do not point the writing mistakes. I do not care. but what i do care, is how conveniently this gentleman claiming to be a historian has left what the British did after recapturing Kanpur and the contribution of fake news articles written by the western press. I am Born and raised in Kanpur(Cawnpur), my Great great great great grandfather and his family saw and suffered the whole thing. my maternal grandfather and his Brother resigned from the post of Clerks in the British Bank to joined the Satyagraha. what i am about to tell you is the account of Brutality and over the top retaliation by the British on the innocent Civilians which British Historians Conveniently forget to mention. British started violence against the local population of Cawnpore after capturing it, including looting, Gaping and burning of houses and people alike. the justification being that none of the local noncombatants had done anything to stop the massacre. yeah, the invaders were angry that invaded and enslaved people did not fight against their own people who were trying to liberate them, to save the invaders who enslaved them. Also the inhabitants of Cawnpore were forced to pay £30,000 for the creation of a memorial as a 'punishment' for not coming to the aid of the British women and children. of course many could not pay the price and had their property confiscated (remember these were innocent civilians). that memorial of British prejudice is still in the Kanpur all soul church if anyone is interested. Brigadier General Neill, began a program against local populace and any sepoy rebel captured from the city (Remember that none of these rebels killed the Women and Children and even defied the orders of their king to do so) were forced to lick the floor of the Bibighar compound, while being whipped. but that was not enough, British went one step further, and religiously disgraced them by force feeding them beef (if Hindu) or pork (if Muslim). The Muslim sepoys were sewn into pig skins (Alive) before being hanged, Hindus were subsequently sewn in Cow Skin (Alive) and low-caste street sweepers were employed to execute the high caste Brahmin rebels to add additional religious disgrace to their punishment. Many were forced to lick buildings stained with the blood of the deceased. with "Remember Cawnpore!" becoming a war cry and western news papers telling exaggerated lies of Indian Savages doing unthinkable things against the Noble British Ladies ( No Gaping was ever done in reality by the sepoys). Acts of summary violence against innocent towns and cities increased. In one villages, British caught around 200 men, women and children. Children were bayoneted before their parents and thrown into pyres, while women were Gang Gaped IN front of their husbands, fathers and sons as they helplessly watched, then bayoneted and thrown into pyres alongside the men. this was repeated around many villages and towns, and all those poor villagers had to defend themselves were lathis (sticks) which were no match for the British guns. In another village, when around 2100 villagers came out in protest against British Brutality, they were locked in and set on fire. Villagers trying to escape were summarily executed by the British. and yes that included men, weman and children. way more then the Bibighar. British Also Burned the 13 year old Daughter of Nana Saheb Alive, this is also significant in the context because the women in the Peshva House were Against Harming the British Civilians and many went to hunger strike to protest against it. of course the Avenging British didn't care. they also didn't care that the rebel soldiers were of such high moral character that they defied the orders of their ruler to kill helpless women and children as it went against their dharma and code of honor. the sheer horror, indignation and sufferings they endured can never be forgotten. Remember, we are a Billion Strong. we will not let you disgrace the great freedom fighters of our Nation by telling a one sided story and depict them as Butchers and Savages. Nana Saheb and Tatya Tope are our Hero's and we will never let them be disgraced by white washers like you. you might ask me what about the 200 British civilians? i will say what about it? they were invaders and looters who enslaved us and started draining our resources, compared us to dogs in our own nation. fattened up their children while our died of hunger, English Mams strutted around in luxury cloths and jewelry while our mothers didn't have a simple cloth to hide their increasing poverty. what do you think was going to happen? was the decision to kill the civilians right? of course not, but what the British did was several times worse. and that was only 1857, let us not recall the other adventures your ancestors did here. It is disheartening to see a few clueless Indians in the comment section praising this guy. go read your own history properly and stop falling for these people and their propaganda.
@Franny95639
@Franny95639 Жыл бұрын
Typical revisionist history.
@rdsc.455
@rdsc.455 11 ай бұрын
@adityapanday77 Same thing going on even today in front of all of the world and Indian Prime Minister Modi and many other Indians are supporting all this genocide and destruction Indians themselves had gone through.
@redeyexxx1841
@redeyexxx1841 10 ай бұрын
He clearly says that the British retaliation to this was very disproportionate! Sounds very neutral to me. In India I read one side of story in school and here I found some more to this story.
@jonathanwetherell3609
@jonathanwetherell3609 Жыл бұрын
The Anglo Indian community is little remembered or discussed. They were a key part of British India, both in the civil service and particularly in the railways. Many left after partition, to the UK, Canada and Australia.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@Raj-nh3fc
@Raj-nh3fc Жыл бұрын
Nana Saheb and his palace personnel both Hindus and muslims along with their women folk and servants and small army entered west Nepal through a malaria infested Terai jungle. They buried much of the treasure that they had taken with them to Nepal in the forest, but nobody knows where. That treasure is still talked about in Nepal as "Kala ko dhan" or the black man's treasure. The Indians being much darker skinned than the Nepalese locals, were called kala.They then proceeded up the mountains to hide from the British. Their descendents in Nepal still live in the mountains, most of them are Muslims, but culturally now Nepali Muslims, well adapted in to the society. They trade and earn their living by selling bangles cosmetics brought from India and are collectively known as "chooretey" or a bangle seller. They have a very distinct colourful history. One of my forefathers a Brahmin priest conducted various poojas and Hindu ritual ceremonies for the Hindus in that Nana Saheb's group in west Nepal and that story has been passed down our family tree.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. The past shapes ur todays (good, bad, funny and sad)
@scottp9048
@scottp9048 Жыл бұрын
Simply another excellent piece Chris ! For years my knowledge of the mutiny was confined to the two novels “the siege of krishnapur” and “Dando on Delhi ridge” recently I’ve started researching it properly and this is a proper kick start for me, how about a feature on William Hall VC ?
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and supporting me.
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 Жыл бұрын
Or Kavanagh VC? I love his portrayal by George M-F.
@anugranmathimugan2778
@anugranmathimugan2778 Жыл бұрын
What happened to Hossaini Begum and her Husband was hoping those two got what was coming to them .
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Still trying to discover that.
@anugranmathimugan2778
@anugranmathimugan2778 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap Thanks for the reply mate , really enjoying you channel too :)
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that you've been killing lately Chris; not that you don't always put out quality content at a steady clip! Maybe I feel this way because this topic is one that I know little about; needless to say, my American education didn't cover the Sepoy Rebellion, or really any Victorian era English colonialism. Hopefully this comment helps appease the Algorithm Gods; keep up the good work!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
It was not something I was taught about in England either. Thanks for your comment.
@damodaran2629
@damodaran2629 Жыл бұрын
The American education system make them the most ignorant people in the whole world. Americans think that the US is the whole world and the rest of the world is some other planet not worth their precious time to waste to know about. May be this is the reason they are hated all over the world except for some European countries
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap Nor I, Chris. The Raj was touched upon, no more. But - giving my age away - I had a history teacher who had been in the Indian Civil Service in the late '30s. He was 'head-of-table during school mealtimes. A most engaging and capable man: the sort of teacher who 'inspires'. I'm still interested nearly half-a-century on. I sincerely hope that you similarly-create such lasting interests. I believe you will.
@tomabbott5259
@tomabbott5259 Жыл бұрын
And what of begum?was she brought to justice?or did she get away scott free...
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Still trying to find out.
@IUsedToBeSomeoneElseX
@IUsedToBeSomeoneElseX Жыл бұрын
_Our Bones Are Scattered: The Cawnpore Massacres And The Indian Mutiny of 1857_ by Andrew Ward.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine the awful fate of poor 18 year old Margaret Wheeler.
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
Apparently I should have waited until the end of the episode to comment!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, I always like to do something a bit left field.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Wait for it...
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap One of the reasons your episodes are worth watching until the end! Makes for good storytelling.
@ramdev9578
@ramdev9578 Жыл бұрын
@@Jon.A.Scholt LOL made up the last part. She was actually in a harem and passed around. Begat many good Muslims. It still happens in Britain. Pakistani Grooming Gangs. White women flock to them.
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 Жыл бұрын
20:56 Also, this had been used in medieval times against master-gunners who were captured. Due to extreme losses and near-magical nature of chemical reactions, operating cannons was still considered to be part of the 'black arts', so that plus the casualties they had inflicted meant that master-gunners were often executed by tying them to their own cannons and firing them.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding that information.
@paulbromley6687
@paulbromley6687 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad way to go fast and relatively humane,
@robg5958
@robg5958 Жыл бұрын
I grew up near to two streets in Belfast named in honour of Cawnpore and Lucknow. Great video, Chris!
@redwater4778
@redwater4778 Жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder why the British would allow any Indians into their own homeland or the colonies.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the link to Belfast.
@jeffpliskin
@jeffpliskin Жыл бұрын
Because the brit aristocracy( brit east indio Co) are overwhelmingly jewish and bankers they do not represent common anglo saxons.
@mudra5114
@mudra5114 Жыл бұрын
As an Indian, I feel that the massacre of Bibhighar, the massacre of women and children by Nana Saheb was shameful and barbaric. May their souls rest in peace.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for those thoughtful sentiments.
@dilipkumar3620
@dilipkumar3620 10 ай бұрын
British ne kitne massacre kiye h genocide kiye h pta bhi h
@davidw1634
@davidw1634 9 ай бұрын
@@dilipkumar3620oh shut up Any damage or massacre done by the British would have been vastly minimal when compared to that of the Indians
@ektorpolykandriotis635
@ektorpolykandriotis635 9 ай бұрын
are you even remotely aware of how many barbaric massacres and how much injustice has been perpetrated by the British against numerous peoples?
@mudra5114
@mudra5114 9 ай бұрын
@@ektorpolykandriotis635 Mostly propaganda.
@satyavirverma7304
@satyavirverma7304 Жыл бұрын
It was not mutiny, I was first freedom fight against British
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Shame most of the South didn’t participate in this war of independence
@satyavirverma7304
@satyavirverma7304 Жыл бұрын
Shame for what, we are proud that our ancestor gave big blow Britisher, which made cleared way for independence in 1947. My country is big country, it is not island, and forget Britain will vanish after sometime jihadis will takeover
@rdsc.455
@rdsc.455 11 ай бұрын
​@@satyavirverma7304 Conditions are perfect for another Forgion rule as Indians are again badly divided and turned blind on the name of religion and Politicians religious agenda. Come, Rule already divided people 😄😄😄😄
@jeffyoung60
@jeffyoung60 Жыл бұрын
I've read about the Sepoy Mutiny many years ago. After the mutiny was suppressed with much violence and bloodshed all around, the British launched a wave of retribution throughout the former mutiny region. The Indians named that time, "The Devil's Wind". When Nana Sahib, his supporters, mutinying sepoys, and the rest butchered the surrendered British soldiers and their women and children, this brought to an end any possibility of a remotely civilized suppression of the mutiny. The British would not encounter this same magnitude and degree of savagery and brutality in war until they faced the fanatical Japanese Army in World War Two.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Interesting link to the Japanese. Thanks for sharing.
@knutclau705
@knutclau705 Жыл бұрын
Well, 'pon the remark of how the arrival of the "memsahibs" soured the relationship betwixt (male/single) european officers and their indian "other ranks", there was of course the invigorated zeal of church of england missionaries that poisoned the atmosphere also, leading to the rumours of "desecrated" cartridges... And the russian grudge on account of the crimean war and their thwarted advance through Turkmenistan? So the subsequent "trouble-stirring" in the british Raj might not be underrated... A bit of tit for tat, one might suspect! There is nothing new under the sun... Sic semper.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts
@Dryhten1801
@Dryhten1801 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this, my (British) family lived in the affected regions during the munity and it was still practically in living memory for my great-grandma who raised my mum. I imagine it would've weighed heavily on the minds of all the Britons living in India after 1858. The massacre of cawnpore was certainly never forgotten in our family and I'm glad to see it getting some coverage. Rest in peace to all the innocents lost.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your family history.
@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb
@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb 9 ай бұрын
Do you have any written record of the event? Or pictures from 1850s India ?
@Dryhten1801
@Dryhten1801 6 ай бұрын
@@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb Unfortunately I do not. My great gran had the family bible (and thus most of the family records and photographs) buried with her. Indeed my mum had to reconstruct our family tree herself, finding confirmation and records online that my 4x Great Grandpa + family was indeed in the area during the mutiny. The story of cawnpore was taugt to my mum as a child by my great grandma. Though interestingly she blamed the Muslims
@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb
@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb 6 ай бұрын
@@Dryhten1801 also... there's a big deal that I am getting about Indian men of that era being extraordinarily tall. Especially the gangetic plains were said to be inhabited by extremely tall men. There are few records if you dig deeper. And also , there's this special record that says that Scottish highlanders were specifically called to counter these gigantic tall sepoys of India. Interestingly enough, both these indo aryan gangetic plains men and the Scottish highlanders have same paternal Y haplogroup R1a1a Z93
@Dryhten1801
@Dryhten1801 Ай бұрын
@@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb I haven't seen any photo evidence of that
@itsAbhishekKrMishra
@itsAbhishekKrMishra Жыл бұрын
Proud of these Heros.. they tried their level best to defend Motherland from unwanted invaders.. Remember The Sacrifice of Nana Saheb, Tatya Tope & all unsung heroes of Indian freedom struggle.. 🙏
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your passionate comment.
@redeyexxx1841
@redeyexxx1841 10 ай бұрын
Well here in India I thought only British killed civilians and Indian freedom fighters only killed army generals and top government officials. But no Indian fighters killed tons of British civilians, women, children as well. So here in India only fabricated history is taught in schools. Indians did enough civilians killing as well.
@stormtrooper8420
@stormtrooper8420 4 ай бұрын
So kasmiri terrorist are freedom fighters?
@Frank_Nemo
@Frank_Nemo Жыл бұрын
A depressing subject, but a near faultless presentation. Bravo.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@bobbydsoza8641
@bobbydsoza8641 Жыл бұрын
Im from india 🇮🇳 as indian i know my histrory but thanks for giving information about my history. Cownpore know days known KANPUR famous city for education in North India.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Good to know that Kanpur is famous for education. Far more productive than fighting.
@bclassic2474
@bclassic2474 Жыл бұрын
Never knew about eduction but definitely know as machester of East due to many mills and leather industry. A major polluter city along ganges
@utkarsh43645
@utkarsh43645 Жыл бұрын
@@bclassic2474 it is a major polluter along Ganges, but because of it's historical prosperity it has very old and well established educational institutions, some came after independence, some are from colonial period, but certainly Kanpur is the most prominent educational hub in Uttar Pradesh (Indian State previously known as United Provinces in colonial Period). But sad to see the downfall of Kanpur nowadays, it is not making any advancements, the growth in Kanpur has stagnated, old manufacturing units dying, no new development, no investment in this region. I have been to that well and seen the Church from outside, the region around well has now converted to a Community Park known as Nana Rao Park, and the church is interestingly not open to public.
@TheRobby1971
@TheRobby1971 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation Sir.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@victor256in
@victor256in Жыл бұрын
Spare a thought for Magraret Wheeler, the dead innocent Indians and Brits. What a dark time
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment
@jatinbhatia4876
@jatinbhatia4876 Жыл бұрын
Your explanation is very good about 1857 Indian mutiny and co incidentally i am also reading a book on Indian mutiny 1857
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad you are enjoying.
@TrueSonOfOdin
@TrueSonOfOdin Жыл бұрын
My Great Great Great Granduncle Brigadier Alexander Jack had engineered the taking of Kangra Fort to end the 2nd Sikh War. He did excellent watercolors showing elephants taking the guns up into the mountains to oversee and subdue the fort and other, regional scenes. He was in Cawnpore and being visited by youngest brother Andrew from Australia when the Sepoy rebellion happened. Many died trying to go the extra distance to get water. Andrew had both his legs taken off by a cannon shell and died in screaming agony. They were Scots. Wheeler was English and in the family he is blamed for choosing the wrong site to fortify (so far from the water), and I have read Wheeler became deeply depressed when one of his sons was killed. Their - Alexander and Andrew's - father William Jack was maths dean at King's University Aberdeen, and their mother Grace Jack (after whom my mother was named) had remarkable mathematical intelligence herself which was regarded as un-female. The Jacks originally came from the Shetlands, so I am part Viking. There was an oldest son, a daughter, and then 3 boys of whom my GGG Grandfather Charles was the oldest. At 17, he was a British Army cadet chasing Napoleon around NW Europe in 1815, and my great grandmother claimed he was at Waterloo, although he is not listed in Waterloo Roll Call. (But he was impetuous enough to have gotten himself there anyway.) Eventually, instead of India he joined the British Legion and Bolivar's war of independence in Venezuela. Many if not most of the Legion died of the fever, and he finally embarked to return to Scotland but was (according to the story in the family) shipwrecked on Hispanola/Haiti, just after the blacks had risen up and were killing all whites. However, he had befriended the ship's black cook, they were the only survivors, the cook spoke for him, so the black leader said that Captain Jack had to take the next ship which came by, which was to America. After disembarking, he heard a beautiful Scottish voice and married her, and they headed west. Ca. 1830, he was among the first pioneers in Rock Island (at the junction of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers) and northwest Illinois, once owning most of what became the town. He was a very active, high-ranking Freemason. I'm not. He was very outspoken politically. So am I. He invested in a plantation in Texas and was down there when the Civil War started. He was badly beaten down there - for saying something unpopular? ... and after the war died in St. Louis in 1867 at the age of 69. He fathered 3 daughters. The eldest, Grace, who died age 30 is my ancestor. His youngest was in Texas. Family legend is that he gave his Illinois family the rich Illinois farmland while giving his Texas family scrub down there. Oil was discovered, and not in the rich Illinois farmland now sub-sub-divided through generations. Former TV anchorman and presenter Stone Phillips from Texas is descended from Captain Jack, and *his* mom is/was named Grace as well. We understand his uncle has Captain Jack's letters and papers which we have never seen. Back to India, my dad was a USAAF master sergeant on our Dhaka (East India then, Bengladesh now) China-Burma-India Air Transport Command airbase, from which supplies were flown over the Hump/Himalayas. He brought back MANY little ivory elephants for Mom. "Jungle Virtuoso" pianist Leonard Pennario was a CBI vet and family friend. Among my now many free print-and-play boardgames on CoatneyHistory is CBI ATC.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share those in-depth details.
@TrueSonOfOdin
@TrueSonOfOdin Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap You're welcome. My sister is the real family historian, and it turns out Captain Jack had 3 daughters, not just 1. I'm making the correction.
@josm1481
@josm1481 Жыл бұрын
I thought i remember reading that Havelock had given order not to take retribution, before he left to Lucknow but they didn't obey him. Also, it was largely covered up in Britain to avoid backlash.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
You are correct on both. Lord Canning, the Governor-General, had also given orders for revenge to be proportionate but was ignored.
@josm1481
@josm1481 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap thanks for confirming my memory. It's some time since I read about the Sepoy Uprising.
@garyhowell8607
@garyhowell8607 Жыл бұрын
Errol Flynn got his revenge I believe
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
A Hollywood classic!
@Xabia18
@Xabia18 Жыл бұрын
Following your videos of the Indian Mutiny closely as i`m the great great great great grandson of Col William Havelock (14th Light Dragoons) and older brother of Gen Sir Henry Havelock.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Now that is a pretty cool family tree. The best I have uncovered is that one of my ancestors married one of the Huggins painters (They painted images of the EIC ships).
@stormshadow5283
@stormshadow5283 Жыл бұрын
Do you still live in Britain or the US or elsewhere?
@Climpus
@Climpus Жыл бұрын
@@stormshadow5283 Yes he does.
@Xabia18
@Xabia18 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap PS it is pronounced Have-lock not hayve-lock
@ak9989
@ak9989 Жыл бұрын
I must say as an American my favorite British history subject is India. That's how I got into collecting Victorian campaign medals. I just found a meanee medal at a show in Los Angeles for $200 named, plus a Mutiny Delhi medal 2 weeks ago $250 named😊
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@johndillinger8424
@johndillinger8424 Жыл бұрын
Here in Northern Ireland there are a few buildings and streets named after General Havelock. It's pronounced Have Lock, as in to have/ possess.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@charlieross-BRM
@charlieross-BRM Жыл бұрын
I live 15 minutes from the town of Havelock in Ontario, Canada.
@dominiquecharriere1285
@dominiquecharriere1285 Жыл бұрын
The cannon execution was meant to disperse the body of a man so he could never go to heaven (Muslims). I’m not sure if it works the same for Hindus. It was gruesome not for the death (instantaneous) but because it left no hope of afterlife to the condemned.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Grimreaper13505
@Grimreaper13505 Жыл бұрын
as a young Indian student with an amateur interest in History and part of the Bengali Military heritage , i particularly left out the Indian British Era as most of the time i only received one sided information, be it in my school history books and other sources and as result i never was able to connect the dots, atrocities were committed by us and i am not scared of saying this as an Indian, as we as well need to learn the repercussions and reasons for it and do better .Your video sir, this right here sets the record straight and im thankful for the unbiased and raw reality of such conflicts and now honestly i might as well shift my focus from the American War of Independence to the Indian British conflicts . I guess i gotta subscribe now😆
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words of support. I'm glad that you are finding my videos helpful.
@rtsesmelis
@rtsesmelis 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video, as always, and a great choice of subject. Interesting detail, that the rift between British and Indians became bigger, as more British women arrived. I'd never understood where that "aloofness" came from. After all, what's the point of spending a big part or most of your life in a country where you despise the locals and their customs? Thank you!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback
@Darice_JHA
@Darice_JHA Жыл бұрын
Honestly an unbelievably talented historian, the excrutiating detail you go into like the '8 shells a second' and '4 surivors on the one boat that got away' are top notch.. Also got the paper 1 of the A Level in 3 days, and your videos on empire provide a nice, more relaxed reivision strategy, thank you.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad you find them helpful
@LeePenn2492
@LeePenn2492 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative. Good show ..i used to be based in Lucknow Barracks ..
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your own connection to the story.
@raymondhummel5211
@raymondhummel5211 Жыл бұрын
Your history programs are presented in such a profession manor turning one's interest into wanting to enjoy your other videos as well. So full of fascinating detailed facts. Viewing your videos can become habit forming! Great job, keep up the good work!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Very kind of you. Takes a heck of a lot of work!
@UdayGupta-f5v
@UdayGupta-f5v Жыл бұрын
Upto the early 20th century, sightings of the vanished Nana Saheb were reported from all over India. My father, who joined the IAS - the successor of the ICS - in 1952, used to say he found an old file, many decades old, at his first posting with a tattered note. Paraphrased : an excited young district officer had written to the province's headquarters : 'Have arrested Nana Saheb. Advise what to do !' The reply : 'Release at once'.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Fascintating. Thanks for taking the time to share.
@anoop61284
@anoop61284 11 ай бұрын
This incident is mentioned in the book , our bones r scattered
@johnschmit998
@johnschmit998 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant historical episode! I can’t wait to see the rest of your videos on the Sepoy Rebellion.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Check them out, I have made 5.
@kleinjahr
@kleinjahr Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Kipling wrote a little story involving a Mariboo stork and a Mugger reminiscing about the good food they had back then.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@arthur12345cat
@arthur12345cat Жыл бұрын
Man's inhumanity to knows no boundaries, we never learn
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, we don't seem to.
@ChrisFEJackson
@ChrisFEJackson Жыл бұрын
Quite harrowing, must have been hard to narrate this but you came over quite professional in my humble opinion.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Very kind of you.
@stigg333
@stigg333 Жыл бұрын
Another great history lesson, thank you so much and stay well.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@caractacusbrittania7442
@caractacusbrittania7442 Жыл бұрын
The story of the 93rd highlanders assault on sekunderabagh, is one of the most brutal imaginable. Ordered to put the 2000 holed up rebels to the bayonet, the 93rd Forced a breech, then killed all 2000 Soldiers carried a lock of hair, and swore an oath, that for each hair a rebel would die....
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Coming in the next episode. Hopefully out later today (Friday).
@parthasararhigupta3198
@parthasararhigupta3198 Жыл бұрын
Good research.Lot of effort has been given to prepare this episode.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 11 ай бұрын
According to "Mr. Kipling's Army," the spark that caused the revolt was the false rumor spread by religious factions that the Briitish were lubricating the bullets issued to the troops with pig grease. The other was the income many Indian families lost when the British wives insisted on joining their husbands in India. Many Indian families enjoyed a nice income from supplying daughters to soldiers and officers as a kind of temporary wife, which prevented the British males from realizing bigamy. There is really no excuse for the massacre of helpless women nd children.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 11 ай бұрын
Again I refer you to my first video in this series entitled: "How did the 1857 Indian Sepoy Rebellion Start?' kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYjMeZ2OeNJrmqs
@egverlander
@egverlander Жыл бұрын
Oxford professor M. MacMillan's "Women of the Raj" (1988) explains how 19th century British women in India introduced social divisiveness and prejudice. Sadly, 19th century Feminists and the morality of Muslim leaders remain lessons to be remembered today. Cawnpore should never be forgotten.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@CMKKCM
@CMKKCM Жыл бұрын
Very good job. Slightly different from another I've seen, but I suspect that that one, on C4(?), was in error, as although it mentioned that the memorial was dismantled it did not mention its re-erection.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@jonmeek3879
@jonmeek3879 Жыл бұрын
These are so well done and easy to understand Thanks again
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 Жыл бұрын
Though the main protagonists at Cawnpoor were high cast Hindu Bramin Marathas. As at Meerut, the first regiment to mutiny at Cawnpoor was Muslim, the 2nd Bengal Light Cavalry from Oudh. At Lucknow it was the Muslim festival of Eid ul-Fitr which was the signal to revolt.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share.
@NatureLover65107
@NatureLover65107 Жыл бұрын
I am a Maratha from pune. Hindu Brahmin and Marathas are Totally different castes... 🙏🏻
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 Жыл бұрын
@@NatureLover65107 Maratha is a Cast as well as an Empire, I was using the term as the latter.
@NatureLover65107
@NatureLover65107 Жыл бұрын
@@billballbuster7186 Ok.. 🙏🏻
@anupampaul7342
@anupampaul7342 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting to note that the sepoy mutiny transformed into a rebellion led by regional rulers and was eventually taken over by globalist JIHAD. The accounts related to the fight for Delhi attests to the above fact, where uzbeks and turks were found lying dead.
@davidwoods7720
@davidwoods7720 Жыл бұрын
Thank you once again Chris
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure.
@islamentable1290
@islamentable1290 Жыл бұрын
Begum, still an infamous name in modern times!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@nigelmansfield3011
@nigelmansfield3011 Жыл бұрын
We have a Lucknow Place and Havelock Street in West Perth in Western Australia. The effect on the British all over the world was truly devastating. The feelings of treachery and disloyalty, palpable. When I grew up in the 1950's we were still taught about the mutiny.
@abhinavpankaj4798
@abhinavpankaj4798 Жыл бұрын
Treachery and Disloyalty?? Why Indians should have been loyal to blood thirsty Britishers? Heard of Jallianwalan Bagh Massacre?
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@andrewpereira9271
@andrewpereira9271 Жыл бұрын
I have recently found your channel and liked each of the videos I've seen thus far. Your balance, fairness and depth gives me confidence of your accuracy. One aspect I'm happy to see, and often rare to many short, homemade (for lack of a better word) docs on KZbin, is your use relevant graphics. The pictures you use are directly related to the content you're describing. In other videos the makers will use pictures only very vaguely specific to the subject matter, which leaves one very doubtful they're seeing the actual person, place or thing being discussed. Thank you for the care and detail you put into your videos. It's why I've now subscribed.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for subscribing. Much appreciated
@formwiz7096
@formwiz7096 Жыл бұрын
Wondering if you could comment (if you've ever seen it) on the riverside ambush in the old Errol Flynn movie, Charge Of The Light Brigade, and whether it was a re-enactment of the Satichaura Ghat. The drawing of the garrison being murdered in the river always struck me as a template for what was shown in the movie. PS Interesting footnote about Margaret Wheeler.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Gosh a long time since I watched that film. really can't comment but it wouldn't surprise me.
@kmorton54
@kmorton54 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think it was their intention. The evil Khan was later killed by Errol Flynn during the Charge of the Light Brigade. Errol ran him thru with his lance before he died.
@howardjolley2215
@howardjolley2215 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap Having just watched it recently, the movie had the garrison, under arms, move to the river where boats were waiting. While the British soldiers and all the civilians were loading, Surat Khan, the rebel leader, ordered his men to open fire. Many soldiers and civilians were killed and the rest, except Flynn and Olivia de Havilland, who escaped (Surat Khan owed his life to Capt. Vickers (Flynn) and allowed him to escape). The survivors of the ambust were rounded up and taken back to the fort, where the women and childern were massacred in a building and the men outside the building. It is very similiar to Cawnpore.
@douglasherron7534
@douglasherron7534 Жыл бұрын
@@howardjolley2215 More than "similar" I would say. Almost definitely based on Cawnpore (including where/how the British were besieged before the massacre at the river).
@jayantkumar2314
@jayantkumar2314 Жыл бұрын
Everyone has his own history
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share your thought.
@shaungillingham4689
@shaungillingham4689 Жыл бұрын
The Indians were no strangers to savagery, but that was unforgivable! How often we see surrender end in tragedy. But to massacre woman & children, still I'm sure revenge was ten fold, although sadly a whole lot more innocent people died. As the bible tells us, " the tender mercy's of the wicked is cruelty"!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the British response was certainly disproportionate.
@htcone6467
@htcone6467 Жыл бұрын
the british were just as savage, you think the empire was won with love and daisies? no nationality or race is better morally than one another.
@shaungillingham4689
@shaungillingham4689 Жыл бұрын
@@htcone6467 Man up & apologise for the awful massacred women & children perpetrated by fanatics, you apologising for them says you are just as bad as the killers.
@voiceofraisin3778
@voiceofraisin3778 Жыл бұрын
@@htcone6467 The empire was mostly won with gold and trade deals. Generally by finding compliant local rulers and stuffing their pockets with Gold. You did notice that this started becasue a local ruler who was kept in place didnt think he was being given his fair due? If they had to use the army thing had gone bitterly wrong.
@vamshikallem948
@vamshikallem948 Жыл бұрын
@@voiceofraisin3778 empire was won through the betrayal of Mir Jaffar and supporting The Peshwas. Otherwise you’d still be the beggars that you were.
@LordStJohn-nq4np
@LordStJohn-nq4np Жыл бұрын
I highly recommend the novel ‘Blood of an Englishman’ by William Clive and ‘ Our Bones Are Scattered’ by Andrew Ward about this despicable and infamous act of brutal mass murder. God praise Sir Henry Havelock and General Neill and all the gallant Britons who crushed the mutiny.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing those books.
@davidsexton6604
@davidsexton6604 Жыл бұрын
Great vid ! As a young lad growing up in the 50’s and 60’s , hearing the words , “ Black hole of Calcutta “was quite common. I am fascinated by the little personal details , like at the end of this vid ! Did you ever hear of the two English ladies who walked into the British Embassy in Kabul at the beginning of the 1900’s ? Survivors of the retreat from Kabul in the 1830’s ? And please ,could you recommend a good book about the “ Mutiny “ ? I have read the Booker prize winning “Siege of Crishnapore “ . Great book for details !
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I find Saul David's book "The India Mutiny" pretty good.
@curiouskid1547
@curiouskid1547 Жыл бұрын
Black hole never happened
@invisibleman4827
@invisibleman4827 Жыл бұрын
Flashman And The Great Game is a great book that gives a window into the absolutely hideous violence committed by both the rebels and the British. May all the dead from the 1857 war rest in peace. 😔
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@yashpatel261
@yashpatel261 Жыл бұрын
There is no peace within the human animal
@stormshadow5283
@stormshadow5283 Жыл бұрын
Do one on the battles between the British and Kunwar Singh, one of the most prominent and undefeated rebel leaders.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I will add to my list.
@kaysertamrakar4208
@kaysertamrakar4208 Жыл бұрын
Too bad for India that the British intrusion was not put to an end and dealt a death blow to the East India Co. in the revolt by the Indians. History of the Sub Continent would’ve taken a different turn and the India’s humiliation and exploitation would not have happened. Jai Hind.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Interesting to note that the majority of Indians didn’t participate in this uprising.
@tyagiaditya
@tyagiaditya 7 күн бұрын
As an India born in 1982, I understand that forefathers wanted freedom from exploitative British rule. But I wouldn’t have killed any women and children. Give them Safe passage. That’s what history of Shivaji Maharaj*, Maharana Pratap, Bappa Rawal, Rajputs teaches us. British also did same in Jallianwala Bagh in 1919 killing women, children and men. British rule was a nightmare for India and a dark age. 1750-1947. Thankfully they left my country and we are FREE
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching my video & your feedback
@SudhansuMohanDas-ml6tu
@SudhansuMohanDas-ml6tu Жыл бұрын
This event is cleverly glossed over in Indian Schools during history lessons.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Yes, I a read an article in an Indian newspaper that had a very different take on events - basically the British probably opened fire on the Indian boatmen who jumped overboard, knocking their fires over. As for the women & children, that wasn't mentioned.
@SudhansuMohanDas-ml6tu
@SudhansuMohanDas-ml6tu Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap When I was in school 1857 was mentioned as *First War for Independence* but the more I have started researching, honest to God, it was more of *Sepoy Mutiny* and opportunist feudal lords jumped in hoping to gain financially. The more I have started to read, I am coming to terms that the British were more of our friends rather than evil colonizers. It's kind of big shock to me. Just as in Britain and anglophone west, there has been a Marxist takeover of the universities in India especially the national one's and we are reading a Marxist Socialist interpretation of the history.
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 Жыл бұрын
Very much the case, but it was also very necessary for the Indian government post-independence to legitimise their rule, there were to many Indians who had lived though the raj who might have chosen functioning administration and law over political independence, and it would have been destabilising to have been compared unfavourably to the colonial occupiers. However it does also undermine the fight against corruption and the building upon what was left to make a better India, as South Africa has shown excuses for failure can be a dangerous thing if left in the hands of politicians.
@SudhansuMohanDas-ml6tu
@SudhansuMohanDas-ml6tu Жыл бұрын
@@vorynrosethorn903 I have been very curious about how the country I live in has came about. I mean we live in a world designed on scientific principles founded in the West and curiously, we continue to shit upon them.
@anoop61284
@anoop61284 Жыл бұрын
General wheeler was killed before reaching sati chaura ghat. He was on his way when he was killed by a native with sword
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this subject.
@jasoncornell1579
@jasoncornell1579 Жыл бұрын
Remember Cawnpore!!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@rorygillies37
@rorygillies37 Жыл бұрын
Long live the king and empire
@dirkdiggler3552
@dirkdiggler3552 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheHistoryChapam
@dirkdiggler3552
@dirkdiggler3552 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheHistoryChap8
@dirkdiggler3552
@dirkdiggler3552 Жыл бұрын
​@@rorygillies37am going
@jon9021
@jon9021 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading of “two daughters of the regiment”, (Royal Artillery), selling their lives dearly.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Not sure if that was factual or slightly romanticised at the time.
@jon9021
@jon9021 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap yes, not sure. Probably the latter.
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