The CD Player with a Robot Inside: Pioneer CLD-M301

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@Phoen1x883
@Phoen1x883 6 жыл бұрын
3:27 That shot! Dude!
@WooferCooker
@WooferCooker 6 жыл бұрын
Phoenix I thought the same. Looks like he used a slider on the camera.
@plushifoxed
@plushifoxed 6 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say, that was downright cinematic
@StandAloneAoi
@StandAloneAoi 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry what shot where? I was distracted by all the 90s robo-hi-fi porn. Timecode please?
@gormster
@gormster 6 жыл бұрын
StandAloneAoi the timecode is in the comment...
@djvycious
@djvycious 6 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing. This video was a cinematic experience!
@tommyhallum78
@tommyhallum78 4 жыл бұрын
The Sony is more practical but that robot arm is so cool.
@bahadrozturk2086
@bahadrozturk2086 4 жыл бұрын
But Pioneer can play Laserdiscs
@tommyhallum78
@tommyhallum78 4 жыл бұрын
True but ROBOT ARM!!!! lol
@WardenWolf
@WardenWolf 4 жыл бұрын
No, no it's not. My father had (and still has) the Sony unit. The Sony unit was a pain in the ass because you had to rotate the carousel around to load it or find the disc you want to remove. It was slow and awkward to work with, and if you bumped the wrong button when trying to advance the carousel the tray just closed on you. The Pioneer unit, that ejects the whole tray, is FAR superior from a usability standpoint. You can load all the discs at once. Also, the remote that came with the Sony had AWFUL range compared to other products of its era. I think the usable range was something like 10 feet.
@VraerynDaDragon
@VraerynDaDragon 4 жыл бұрын
@@WardenWolf Yes but I imagine mechanical longevity on the Pioneer had to be horrid. With all the things that can go wrong with a full robot arm mechanism, I'd bet the Sony would, on average because the Sony probably isn't perfect, last far longer.
@filminginportland1654
@filminginportland1654 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely.
@aserta
@aserta 6 жыл бұрын
My neighbor had one of those Pioneers. Being that he was an engineer, he replaced the casing with an UV glass box and altered the crane frame for more visibility. It was pretty spiffy.
@ddegn
@ddegn 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds really -cool- I mean *spiffy.* I really like that mechanism.
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 6 жыл бұрын
Being an engineering student, I can relate. I really can relate and respect the engineers that came up with that mechanism
@codybrady6637
@codybrady6637 6 жыл бұрын
sounds like a real spiffy idea, I got a cld-m460 from ebay but it arrived broken so I was able to hunt down a broken cld-m450 to use as parts but I could experiment with the parts unit and try the same thing your neighbor did with minimizing the frame and making a neat display case someday. Would definitely be a neat display piece for when guests come over lol!
@DarthVader1977
@DarthVader1977 6 жыл бұрын
a* UV glass box. - *or* - an Ultraviolet* glass box.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 6 жыл бұрын
Really??? Could you get us some pix of it? That's would be a cool sight to see.
@spugintrntl
@spugintrntl 6 жыл бұрын
I must say, you have EXCELLENT comedic timing. The "a bit late, are we?" line cracked me up beyond belief. Also, it was fun to see Weird Al being spun by his mouth.
@robothawkgaming
@robothawkgaming 4 жыл бұрын
I was fuckin opening it and had just clicked "open in new tab" when he said that and it freaked me the FUCK out lmao
@denelson83
@denelson83 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the "big butt" at 11:30.
@sweagboi
@sweagboi 6 жыл бұрын
the "a little late there" joke was PERFECTLY TIMED. and I congratulate and tip my hat to you sir
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 6 жыл бұрын
This video is a remake of one of my earliest. I had explored this machine long ago, but that video hasn't aged well. With my Laserdisc series now almost completely complete (one video left to come out at some point) I thought it would be a good time to revisit the CLD-M301. Hope you enjoy!
@karurosu3dx
@karurosu3dx 6 жыл бұрын
Technology Connections Please, next time add it at the beginning of the video, I thought that there has been an error in the matrix xD
@MrBrander
@MrBrander 6 жыл бұрын
I like your calm and soothing voice and I also like your videos. Could you make a video about Blu-ray and HD DVD war and why Blu-ray won it instead of HD DVD? I remember when I was a kid I even read about this from a magazine how HD DVD was in all ways superior to Blu-ray, so why Blu-ray won?
@GoatTheGoat
@GoatTheGoat 6 жыл бұрын
That magazine was wrong, because blu-ray is in all ways superior to HD-DVD (save for the slightly higher expense to upgrade an existing DVD manufacturing factory to blu-ray over HD-DVD).
@RodrigoBadin
@RodrigoBadin 6 жыл бұрын
I liked it more the fist version of this video when you build up a tension to guess how the hell this CD player change the discs without a rotating tray. You spoiled the answer with this version.
@stevethepocket
@stevethepocket 6 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say, didn't I just see a video about these recently? For what it's worth, I loved the "Whoa!" moment that I got from the delayed reveal of the Pioneer's changer in the old version, but it's nice that you've included more technical information about its inner workings this time.
@jacobstory8895
@jacobstory8895 5 жыл бұрын
"Grabby-clamper" and "plastic-hook-things." Such technical language. I love it.
@agdgdgwngo
@agdgdgwngo 6 жыл бұрын
The pioneer one is clearly superior. It even plays you glitch/techno interlude between each CD
@Nordern
@Nordern 4 жыл бұрын
Dude i love these old machine, so genious with amazing features for the time, even today they are really cool, i want one!
@ryanreiche8125
@ryanreiche8125 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to see you here ps. love your vids especially moti
@tvtech2582
@tvtech2582 6 жыл бұрын
All my fellow techs would run the other way when they saw one of those Pioneer LD players come in the door for service.I remember working on a few that were nightmares because the customer just had to remove their disks themselves before bringing it in for service. Congrats on 100K.
@MacPhantom
@MacPhantom 6 жыл бұрын
2:33 The first CD changer ever made was the Technics SL-P15 from 1983. It was an absolute monster, built like a tank and able to accept 50+1 CDs on a tray. In addition, you could pair it with a control unit that supported three more (!) players-for a total of 204 CDs. Unfortunately, this unit is rarer than a hen's teeth; not many were ever made. There also was a professional version (SL-P16P) that was lockable with a key.
@sion8
@sion8 5 жыл бұрын
Link, please?
@performa9523
@performa9523 5 жыл бұрын
I thought "50" was a typo there. Nope, you're right, the machine really is that big! Crazy! Many thanks for that bit of info!
@ldub0775
@ldub0775 4 жыл бұрын
Absolute unit
@TheJVCguy
@TheJVCguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@performa9523 there were changers that held like 500 cds haha
@richardbates2367
@richardbates2367 Жыл бұрын
I have owned a single disc technics and Panasonic both from 1995 cd player separate shelf system add on setups, and the mid 2001 I think audiovox home stereo hifi type system with the 20cd carousel and the extra loud motor and cooling fan setup but both still working fine but the rarely used but fairly low use dual tape player decks just up and quit, and the cooling fan is significantly louder than it was when new but I have it I guess... still functional cd changer... and the Aiwa cx naj54 cd player changer and cooling fan again are creaky and loud and the dual tape decks although working fine in this mini high fi shelf system from around 1999 I got used are very clean inside the carriers they have also stopped working I'm guessing it's belts deteriorating on both systems but both are kind of complicated to disassemble to get to the carrier motor pulleys and replace the belts?!
@Locut0s
@Locut0s 6 жыл бұрын
No mater how elegant, more moving parts equals more possible points of failure. Sometimes the boring simple solution is the better engineering even if the “smarter” engineering is, well, smarter.
@thereallantesh
@thereallantesh 6 жыл бұрын
Locut0s I agree with you, but I think the advantage when these machines were new was that the consumer could save a significant sum of money by going with the combo Pioneer player rather than two separate machines. In 2018 though I'd much rather have, and do in fact actually have, two separate machines. I have both a Pioneer laserdisc player, and a Sony 5-disc changer. I could not afford these back in the early 90's, but used machines are plentiful, and cheap today.
@firenado4295
@firenado4295 6 жыл бұрын
I agree too but this still doesn't explain why the wankle engine never caught on as it is better in almost very way to the conventional piston engine as it has 2 moving parts it is way more efficient and has a large power to weight ratio and it was only used in several types of Masadas.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 жыл бұрын
Fewer mechanical parts equals less problems.
@thereallantesh
@thereallantesh 6 жыл бұрын
Firenado Having worked in the auto industry I can tell you that Mazda had a lot of problems with those rotary engines. They never quite perfected them to the same extent as a standard engine.
@keithAstansell
@keithAstansell 6 жыл бұрын
I was worried about that too when I bough this same model player in the 90’s. It still works flawlessly today, so I guess Pioneer knew what they were doing.
@PabloLorenti
@PabloLorenti 6 жыл бұрын
I repair electronics until 2010 and i remember that Pioneer always had complicated mechanisms but they were very well thought out. Great video!
@Pr0f3_YT
@Pr0f3_YT 4 жыл бұрын
Holy mother of... My dad had that CD changer on the left and you just unlocked so many memories as a kid. I. Am. Tripping. Memories overloads
@ScrambledAndBenedict
@ScrambledAndBenedict 4 жыл бұрын
I love the sounds it makes. I've always been in love with machines that make cool distinctive robot sounds like this.
@NoNameC68
@NoNameC68 4 жыл бұрын
As hilarious as the Weird Al disk is in itself, watching the machine pick the disk up and spin his head around from his mouth is a new level of genius.
@panthermodern64
@panthermodern64 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Congratulations on 100k, it's well deserved.
@alexandermirdzveli3200
@alexandermirdzveli3200 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's 1/10th of well deserved!
@wbblueye1387
@wbblueye1387 6 жыл бұрын
9 months later 260k subs
@Alexander_l322
@Alexander_l322 4 жыл бұрын
2 years later 700k
@jimb032
@jimb032 6 жыл бұрын
Why did your video make me want one of these now so bad I cannot stand it? It's 2019, it's got to be over 20 years old and I still want it! Your channel is terrific! Keep up the great work.
@b.e.harder5936
@b.e.harder5936 6 жыл бұрын
I love the technical jargon you use like “Grabby Clamper”! One of the reasons I enjoy your vids so much! Keep up the good work!!
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 4 жыл бұрын
It's got rack and peanut CD changing!
@templerea5262
@templerea5262 6 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel, and I'm so happy I did. I love the robot arm in the pioneer, and yet I'm confronted with evidence that simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
@bumblesnowmonster
@bumblesnowmonster 6 жыл бұрын
Pioneer is the clear winner: RoboCop noises!!! "Dead or alive, you're coming with me!" 😉 Good stuff.
@ddegn
@ddegn 6 жыл бұрын
9:43 "All this nonsense" What are you calling nonsense?! *That's better music than you'll ever hear on a CD!* I have to find one of those Pioneer players. That thing is beautiful! Thanks for another fun video!
@Turk_2023
@Turk_2023 6 жыл бұрын
From 1991 it probably won`t play burned cd`s fyi
@misterhat5823
@misterhat5823 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. He's comparing apples to oranges. One will also play Laserdisc and the other won't. That was relevant when this was made.
@ddegn
@ddegn 6 жыл бұрын
I exaggerated my excitement about the Pioneer unit a bit. I build robots as a hobby and I thought the CD changer mechanism was really cool. I'm really glad Technology Connections showed us the mechanism. I hope it was clear I was exaggerating about how much I liked the sound of the mechanism. I realize one can read some pretty extreme opinions in the KZbin comment section so it can be hard to tell when people are joking. (I have no reason to think either of you thought I was serious.) Of course the mechanism doesn't sound better than all CDs. There may be one of two CDs which sound better than the mechanism ;) I will likely keep an eye out for a used Pioneer machine. As I said, I really like the CD changer mechanism.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yea its beautiful, extensive use of cheap plastic parts, overly complicated drive mechanism and the sound quality wont hold a candle to a sony.
@ddegn
@ddegn 6 жыл бұрын
Synthematix "the sound quality wont hold a candle to a sony." HOGWASH! That overly complicated drive mechanism had much better sound quality the overly practical Sony mechanism. PS See Maxx Fordham!'s comment (you might want to check my other earlier reply too). Tongue is still firmly in cheek.
@StevenOBrien
@StevenOBrien 6 жыл бұрын
3:27 And the winner of the Oscar for Best Cinematography of 2018 is... Technology Connections!
@RockRedGenesis
@RockRedGenesis 6 жыл бұрын
1:37 - That got a giggle out of me. Well done.
@forresthunter1483
@forresthunter1483 6 жыл бұрын
I'm traveling down the rabbit hole of this channel. Excellent content!
@thomasjenkins5727
@thomasjenkins5727 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why I like watching this channel... but I have no intention of stopping.
@tomrhardwick
@tomrhardwick 6 жыл бұрын
Can you rough guess how long a 13:44 video takes to make? Planning, lighting, voiceover, changes, editing, checking, smoothing. I'm greatly impressed, you should've been a science teacher.
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't really ever kept track, but for this video, It probably took around 25 to 30 hours all told to make. 4-5 hours writing and proofreading. A half hour for recording the voice-over Another half hour for editing the voice-over 1 hour or so for planning B-roll (requires listening to the voice over and stopping to make notes) Shooting B-roll typically takes 3 to 5 hours depending on the video. Then I spend the next 5 to 10 hours on the edit, where I discover that I need more B-roll, so I spend another few hours tying loose ends. After the edit is done, there's about an hour of management time for finishing captions, the end screen, cards, and description. Those number are admittedly guesses, but I usually spend all day over two days shooting and editing the video.
@Outlawstar0198
@Outlawstar0198 2 жыл бұрын
We had that same Sony CD Charger when I was growing up. The subtle noises that were made whirs and shifts still are ASMR to me.
@Snubben123143
@Snubben123143 6 жыл бұрын
Man your channel is blowing up! Good work keep it going!
@TheDanno210
@TheDanno210 6 жыл бұрын
I love my CLD-M403 - which Sears had to give me new, for free, when they’d managed to destroy my Pioneer Karaoke LD player that was in for service. Being a giant fan of automation, I was immediately enamored to the wonderful robotic sounds it made which to me added another layer of the experience when listening to my CDs in it. Granted, putting it in random mode with 5 CDs generates a lot of wonderful mechanical music between each song but it certainly as an incredible amount of wear and tear on the device at the same time. The 10 second or so pause between random songs isn’t a detriment at all to me. Needless to say, the cover was removed on day 1 and I was in hog heaven. My CLD-M403 has been a part of my AV system since the early 90s and has enjoyed continued use. It doesn’t appear you have the remote for yours. I somehow have two for mine. Having the remote allows you to explore some additional functions and features that aren’t on the control panel of the device; in CD mode, there are several informative if not fun pages you can toggle thru which contain different displays such as an on-screen VU meter, disc display icons, time remaining, elapsed, etc. If you’d like my 2nd one, you’re welcome to it. Send me a PM and I’ll dig it out and send to you.
@Yes-ng6rf
@Yes-ng6rf 6 жыл бұрын
Nice inclusion of "Home improvement", love your extremely informative videos "Disc grabber 9000".
@falcon-ng6sd
@falcon-ng6sd 6 жыл бұрын
BFDG-9000!!!
@Anacronian
@Anacronian 6 жыл бұрын
machines with robot arms are always the winner.
@bradnimbus4836
@bradnimbus4836 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! Always a great start to my day. I have to disagree with you about your laser disk series. That series was fantastic, informative and anything but exhausting (at least for us viewers).
@peter_smyth
@peter_smyth 6 жыл бұрын
Brad Nimbus Exhaustive means it covers the topic completely, not that it exhausts the viewer.
@SikoSoft
@SikoSoft 6 жыл бұрын
My 4 and half year old kiddo is going to really enjoy watching your videos in a couple years from now. He's become obsessed with robots and machinery (like many little boys perhaps), and since he has a programmer dad his exposure to computers and technology is only being amplified. :D Anyhow, I look forward to showing his curious little mind your videos in a bit more time. I'm amazed at how little I knew about the technology I've used all my life until discovering your channel.
@andersdenkend
@andersdenkend 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy engineering like this. It‘s mind boggling how people come up with this stuff. :D
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 6 жыл бұрын
andersdenkend You ain't seen nothin...kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXy3lJ6Vjceor8U and there are worse.
@zack_im
@zack_im 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This video brings back the memories of my 1st job as an electrical design engineer at Sony where I personally involved in design verification for the 5-CD changer model. Subscribed!!
@BluntAnims
@BluntAnims 6 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose between the two, of course I would choose the Pioneer. I love how complicated the mechanics are, really reminds me of a jukebox. Super cool!
@KayoMichiels
@KayoMichiels 4 жыл бұрын
Too be honest; the noise the Pioneer takes me back when we used a VCR, that's how they sounded because of the internal mechanics.. still fascinates me.
@dbnpoldermans4120
@dbnpoldermans4120 6 жыл бұрын
Needs a plexiglas case
@nneeerrrd
@nneeerrrd 6 жыл бұрын
Thought the same :)
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 жыл бұрын
No it needs throwing in the bin
@mcp12300
@mcp12300 6 жыл бұрын
Synthematix what up with you?
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 жыл бұрын
Яков sad bastard
@ThisIsARubbishName
@ThisIsARubbishName 6 жыл бұрын
My parents had the tape/CD version of the Sony! It was part of this huge radio, tape, cd thing. Very nostalgic!
@BrokebackBob
@BrokebackBob 6 жыл бұрын
This machine was designed by Rube Goldberg for Panasonic. He didn't work for them again.
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 6 жыл бұрын
He designed the CD changer that Panasonic used in their (high end?) mini systems. Terrible nightmare to reassemble.
@BrokebackBob
@BrokebackBob 6 жыл бұрын
InsideOfMyOwnMind Of course, i stand corrected sir!
@crazyt1483
@crazyt1483 6 жыл бұрын
he still works in technology. Makeing sure that nothing is user serviceable
@TheHitmanAgent
@TheHitmanAgent 4 жыл бұрын
I was always fascinated by the complex/simplicity of these machines, thank you
@Adolfo314159265
@Adolfo314159265 6 жыл бұрын
congratulations to 100k subscribers, and greetings from Germany.
@andrewk1920
@andrewk1920 6 жыл бұрын
My parents have, I believe, this exact Pioneer model that's been running flawlessly for, what, 20+ years? I will forever recognize the sound of that CD changer. I even remember watching some Laserdiscs on it, back in the day. On the other hand, they also own a Sony 5 disc changer similar to this model, but a more recent version. I had to open it up yesterday to see if I could figure out why it wasn't operating correctly. I removed the tray and reset it, and it seems to be working better, but not perfectly 100% of the time. Ah, anyway, pretty cool to see the technology behind the case for these two. I'm especially amazed at how that Pioneer keeps trucking along.
@whitslack
@whitslack 6 жыл бұрын
This remake of this video is vastly superior to the original. I love the section about the rack and pinion system in the robot. That truly is some genius engineering. I feel like complex mechanical solutions like that just aren't found in modern engineering. (Maybe that's for the best, as they tend to be more fragile.)
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I see all those parts - motors, rubber belts, sensors, wire looms - and I think of my old pal Ian Malcolm: "you spent so much time thinking about whether you could that you never stopped to consider whether you should."
@nrg16108
@nrg16108 4 жыл бұрын
We had one-total junk. The nylon track chipped and whole mechanism jammed. Worst design ever from Pioneer
@3417gekkou
@3417gekkou 4 жыл бұрын
The engineering on that plastic holding rack itself is really impressive.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 жыл бұрын
The Pioneer model would’ve been really successful if it had had a see-through case.
@aolson5795
@aolson5795 4 жыл бұрын
My dad still has that Sony changer. It serves him well. One of the best features about it is the "fader" button. It does a 2-second volume fade to zero and pauses playback. Push it again and it resumes with a 2-second fade up from zero. It's a super slick way to pause music at a dinner party or whatnot, I don't know why no one else seems to have this feature.
@ninjamaster3453
@ninjamaster3453 6 жыл бұрын
4:13 Mmmmm optical disc sandwich
@michaelmitchell8218
@michaelmitchell8218 6 жыл бұрын
Pioneer is impressive it made some of the best CD players on the market and laserdisc players too. I still own a pioneer CD player which is over 27 years old and still runs like new and still got one on the best DAC inside. Not ever today’s DAC are as good as the ones from back then. That’s why pioneer are pioneers.
@josephlucas502
@josephlucas502 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. One of my favorite channels. Keep up the good work!
@jaymemaurice
@jaymemaurice 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up with the pioneer. It saw a lot of play as both cd changer and laser disc and never gave a problem. It also has a cool "program" feature that made for recording awesome mix tapes...
@maxmustermann5331
@maxmustermann5331 5 жыл бұрын
"Their mission, should they choose to accept it [...]" 😂😂😂
@mbogucki1
@mbogucki1 6 жыл бұрын
You have made me fall in love with these Pioneer machines. The amount of over-engineering in these Rube Goldberg machines is fantastic. I would custom build acryclic covers just so I can watch it do its thing. LOL
@QLTD
@QLTD 6 жыл бұрын
I wish they made that Pioneer transparent so we can enjoy watching the robot doing its thing, by the way I have a *Pioneer 25-Disc Player* that can play and change CDs in simple and smart way, I made a video and will be uploaded to my channel soon
@djvycious
@djvycious 6 жыл бұрын
This video is a visual extravaganza. My mind is blown by these shots and extreme close-ups. 10/10 TC! Cheers to your very well-deserved 100k man!
@Stormy2142
@Stormy2142 6 жыл бұрын
You got 100k because your videos are amazing
@mattbeach4026
@mattbeach4026 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up with the Sony model as well. As a kid I always thought it was magic. It was pretty quiet with nothing more than a few whispers and muted beeps. Really cool to see how it works, subbed to your channel after this video after lurking on a few others!
@dykodesigns
@dykodesigns 6 жыл бұрын
The Pioneers mechanism is impressive to look at but also more complicated then Sony’s. The Pioneer would be a nightmare to service if something goes wrong with it. Sony’s design seems more effective and “saner” designed.
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 6 жыл бұрын
I serviced them back when they were relevant. Not too bad. There were a few tricks but quite serviceable.
@-na-nomad6247
@-na-nomad6247 6 жыл бұрын
I have a sony GRX-80 made in 1998, 20 years later, the disc changer in it is still working like a charm, I have problems with the cassette reader randomly switching sides or sticking when one side is finished, apart from that, the thing is working flawlessly.
@pup64hcp
@pup64hcp Ай бұрын
This is the exact LaserDisc player my dad had. I suspect its weird noises will become even more sentimental to me the older I get.
@barlitone
@barlitone 6 жыл бұрын
You should consider doing a video on the CD changers that used external cartridges. My family had a nice Pioneer one that used proprietary cartridge: it was about as thick as a VHS tape, but the other dimensions were just big enough to hold the CDs. It had 6 trays that swung out, and you loaded the CDs in label-side-down. Then you inserted the cartridge into the player, and from there it was standard: select your disc, song, all that. Even had fade in and fade out, for some bizarre reason. I believe Sony had a similar cartridge, though they were incompatible. Use of these machines in the home declined when the carousel machines got cheaper and cheaper: carousel changers could only handle 5 discs compared to a cartridge's 6, but the carousel was easier to load, and you didn't need the external component (cartridge) to play any discs. I believe the cartridge models survived longer in the car audio segment, and trunk-mounted changers with remotes and head units got popular for a while.
@barlitone
@barlitone 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a selling point my dad liked--keep the discs in the cartridges, group them together by theme, etc. I think the only real negative here was that the discs had to be loaded label-down (and thus playing-surface-up), which meant that in most cases, you couldn't just open the cartridge to verify which disc was in which slot. You had to hold it up and look from beneath, or lift the disc. A minor gripe, but I remember being annoyed by it. I did love that you could move the cartridges from home to car. And, if memory serves, they changed discs very quickly. I hated that the carousel players ended up winning that battle.
@JarrodCoombes
@JarrodCoombes 6 жыл бұрын
I own and still use the DVD/CD version of that Sony disc changer. Great machine.
@StevenSmyth
@StevenSmyth 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a Sony DVP-C660 5 disc DVD carousel. Love it. Got it at the thrift store in working condition.
@MaddTheSane
@MaddTheSane 6 жыл бұрын
I think our family had one as well. But it got misaligned and we sent it over to D.I. (A local thrift store brand).
@jerrywh3
@jerrywh3 6 жыл бұрын
This channel just gets better and better. This was a really good remake.
@AttilaSVK
@AttilaSVK 6 жыл бұрын
I'd still take the Pioneer over the Sony.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 жыл бұрын
No chance, the pioneer is way over complicated and a certified nightmare to repair, the pioneer is plastic, and nasty also the sony has much better sound quality. The pioneer 6 disc cartridge players were even worse, they scratched the crap out of your cds and got stuck in the mechanism.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 6 жыл бұрын
thing is the sony is still out there working exactly the same as it was on day one, Even came with a spare drive band. The amount of pioneers i saw growing up as a kid was crazy, I remember at one stage stacking them up in a giant pile to climb up to a shelf, thats how many repairs wee got for them hahaha. But both great machines.
@monad_tcp
@monad_tcp 6 жыл бұрын
buy 5 single disc players
@colormedubious4747
@colormedubious4747 6 жыл бұрын
"The pioneer 6 disc cartridge players were even worse, they scratched the crap out of your cds and got stuck in the mechanism." -- I have a PD-M70 and that NEVER happened to me. It still works, although I transferred all my CDs to my server many years ago. The remotes are the weak spot -- they get dirty, suffer abuse, and fail (like most remotes).
@born2lose803
@born2lose803 6 жыл бұрын
@dandanthetaximan I've never heard someone call a CD Player cringy lol
@welcomestranger
@welcomestranger 5 жыл бұрын
That little snapping noise of the Pioneer tray moving would always give me the heebie-jeebies.
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 6 жыл бұрын
You should do one on teh Philips matchline home cinema system. We had one of those when I was a kid and it was amazing in 1989. One of those pioneer players would have made huge sense there.
@holnrew
@holnrew 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this channel taking off! Congrats
@mattstevenson1334
@mattstevenson1334 6 жыл бұрын
Are you and Techmoan gunna collab or what?
@MrConor159
@MrConor159 6 жыл бұрын
Sannesthesia sounds more like alexonautos
@srpablo6107
@srpablo6107 6 жыл бұрын
actually I became a fan of him because he’s in the key of Techmoan.
@CAHSR2020
@CAHSR2020 6 жыл бұрын
CD+G was a great idea that never really went anywhere. Its most famous traits include being rarely used, largely unsupported, and almost entirely unknown to consumers.
@BurhanRana
@BurhanRana 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Watching you for the first time. And now you are at 1.71 M. Hard work pays off.
@TheOfficialCzex
@TheOfficialCzex 5 жыл бұрын
1:38 That is too clever.
@handled4787
@handled4787 4 жыл бұрын
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS JOKE TO ME
@TheOfficialCzex
@TheOfficialCzex 4 жыл бұрын
@@handled4787 The information card shows up late.
@usmale4915
@usmale4915 5 жыл бұрын
Your video is not only entertaining, it is also educational! Your narration is crisp, clear and concise! You have a great channel, I just subbed! Thank you for the upload!
@two_number_nines
@two_number_nines 6 жыл бұрын
those are trully amazing videos!
@Corndog4382
@Corndog4382 4 жыл бұрын
It’s honestly amazing that these things were engineered and manufactured but still were affordable to everyday people. This damn thing looks like something that would be on a mars rover, it’s jaw dropping that this is a consumer good.
@TopSpot123
@TopSpot123 6 жыл бұрын
TMBG and Weird Al? My kind of guy!
@wildbilltexas
@wildbilltexas 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Had Pioneer been able to get the price for one of these down around $200 or lower when they were new I might have bought one in the 90's. My favorite CD changer mechanism was the Pioneer used for their CD File changer that reminded me of a Seeberg jukebox.
@wildbilltexas
@wildbilltexas 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the warning. I wanted one so bad in the 90's but couldn't afford one. Then about 7 years ago I found a 25 disc Pioneer changer in nice shape at a thrift store for FIVE dollars. I dont use it as often now thanks to MP3's but it's still working fine. I also have a 5 disc Sony changer I bought 12 years. The only thing I noticed is it has to be placed perfectly flat for the CD's to load.
@ChickenBG7
@ChickenBG7 6 жыл бұрын
i'm choosing a laserdisc player to buy is pioneer the best option?
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 6 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty much the only option! They almost singlehandedly kept the format alive.
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 6 жыл бұрын
I should know this but I wonder if a modern AVR would even recognize an AC3 signal.
@EuclidAndOaks
@EuclidAndOaks 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! For some strange reason the clicking and buzzing sounds of the Pioneer changing disks was actually kind of soothing to me lol.
@LoganDark4357
@LoganDark4357 6 жыл бұрын
11:30 "Butt! And it's a BIIIIG butt!"
@Alexander_l322
@Alexander_l322 4 жыл бұрын
But not butt idiot 😆🤣
@ImDemonAlchemist
@ImDemonAlchemist 4 жыл бұрын
100,000 subs just over two years ago, and now over 800,000. Damn, this channel has grown great and I hope it continues to.
@MitchQuadrupleTree
@MitchQuadrupleTree 6 жыл бұрын
I like that the CD in the first spot on the Sony was a Weird Al CD.
@planetX15
@planetX15 6 жыл бұрын
Does it have Smells Like Nirvana on it?
@MitchQuadrupleTree
@MitchQuadrupleTree 6 жыл бұрын
No, the album shown in the changer carousel was Poodle Hat" which came out in 2003. "Smells Like Nirvana" was from the Off the Deep End album from 1992.
@SteelSkin667
@SteelSkin667 6 жыл бұрын
This was well worth re-doing, there is so much more info in the new version. It was definitely worth another watch :)
@scottstrang1583
@scottstrang1583 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. That thing was a mechanical nightmare.
@LordSandwichII
@LordSandwichII 6 жыл бұрын
A mechanical wet dream more like.
@kg4boj
@kg4boj 6 жыл бұрын
You have no idea! When these things broke... THEY REALLY BROKE! Devices like these were the absolute end of DIY at home electronic repair, and often times not even the manufacturer could repair such devices.
@SimHQFan
@SimHQFan 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this reminds me of when we had the Sony VGP-XL1B2 DVD changer. 200 DVDs at your remote controlled fingertips, without needing to manually catalog them. It hooked up to your HTPC through a Firewire connection, and using the metadata on the DVD, would auto look up the DVD on the internet and catalog it for you. Imagine being able (back then) to watch any of your DVDs on command, without having to catalog or rip each one. It was insane...and sounded like a jet engine every time it spooled up to switch out a DVD. The actual playback mechanism was surprisingly simple...basically a DVD drive mounted vertically in the middle of the 'ring' of DVDs.
@BERO17071991
@BERO17071991 6 жыл бұрын
I'd rather get Laserdisc player that plays both sides and CDs without changer. less moving parts = less things to break
@williamreid6255
@williamreid6255 4 жыл бұрын
Bero1707 I just wish that was a thing... as well as added DVD and Blu-ray functionality (even if it limited to only playing one DVD or Blu-ray individually)
@pineappleroad
@pineappleroad 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamreid6255 there is at least 1 model of machine that can play both laserdiscs and DVDs (sadly there isn't a machine that can play laserdiscs and blu-rays though) oh, and it plays CDs, DVDs, Video CDs, AND both sides of a laserdisc
@williamreid6255
@williamreid6255 4 жыл бұрын
@@pineappleroad I knew of the DVL-700 and 900
@osgrov
@osgrov 6 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you get the appreciation you deserve! This channel is like a breath of fresh air for an old geek like myself. I've watched every video you've made, and I've enjoyed them all! :) Keep up the great work you do, I treasure these videos. That CD arm mechanic though.. I'm in love with it. So completely the wrong thing to do until you start to investigate why it's necessary.. What a feat of clever engineering, ha! I love it.
@butre.
@butre. 5 жыл бұрын
I'd take the pioneer over the sony. To hell with what's better, give me the cooler one.
@harryt988
@harryt988 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant overview of this interesting piece of audio gear !
@sodadrinker89
@sodadrinker89 6 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to think Pioneer over-engineered everything, or am I wrong?
@White-Wolf1969
@White-Wolf1969 6 жыл бұрын
They did from the 70's through to the early 90's. my whole system is Pioneer.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 6 жыл бұрын
That’s just Japanese engineering in general, especially during the ‘70s and ‘80s. Their cars were the same way.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 жыл бұрын
Yes they did but forgot the most important part, build quality.
@claw-machinesNL
@claw-machinesNL 6 жыл бұрын
Synthematix i have a 45 year old pioneer amp which is still working like the day it was made, compare that to a 22 year old sony amp which died few years ago 🤷🏼‍♂️
@barebarekun161
@barebarekun161 6 жыл бұрын
For diode laser player Pioneer LD player are mostly well made. My CLD-1070 was made in 1990 and it still works today.
@thomasdarby6084
@thomasdarby6084 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I actually had one of those Sony disc players. However, at home, I also had a JVC 10-disc player which had a cartridge that you preloaded with up to 10 CD's, each on a little grey tray which slid into the cartridge. These were then selected using the remote. The neat thing about it was, that the cartridges also fit my car CD changer which I put under the back seat and played through my dash stereo. It was pretty trick stuff for 1989.
@whynotanyting
@whynotanyting 6 жыл бұрын
Pioneer: What my overengineering-ass brain wants our team to make Sony: What my team decides to make As much as I love Pioneers design it's slow and has many moving parts.
@iscmiscm
@iscmiscm 4 жыл бұрын
The pioneers seem to keep working, so I suppose that must have been made well or just over engineered.
@MegaBobsel
@MegaBobsel 6 жыл бұрын
This channel is getting better by the minute! How I love the mechanics in these old machines. Congrats on the 100K!
@regular_shenanigans
@regular_shenanigans 6 жыл бұрын
[heavy engineer breathing]
@ScarlettStunningSpace
@ScarlettStunningSpace 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was such a great watch. I never had these changers when I grew up because I was born in the wrong generation. I did have a VCR and eventually my parents got a DVD changer like the CD changer in this video but it was made by Samsung. We had it for a little while until it started to overheat and it stopped working. I wish it hadn't too, it had 7.1 surround sound and it was kickass!
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 6 жыл бұрын
I am honestly a bit dissapointed that the guys at Pioneer didn't do the cd changer dual sided laserdisc combo thing... :P ... Maybe they could have the cd changer robot arm on its own rails so it could move out of the way to make room for the laserdisc reader carousell? Or.. if we think otside the box a bit more... Maybe... We could have the laserdisc portion mounted vertically in the front? With a cd jukebox behind it. In a giant cube... With the dual sidedness solved by having the whole disc flipping end over end? The possibilities just boggles the mind!!!
@asher3491
@asher3491 10 ай бұрын
A super fun video to come across after scoring one of those Sony disc changers. They were too fancy for my family growing up so it's been a fun thing to use. Cool to see how it actually works.
@stopcreepingyouweirdo
@stopcreepingyouweirdo 4 жыл бұрын
Love this - Longtime subscriber, found one of these on Facebook marketplace for $50 in great working order (with remote!) and googled it... and your video was the first result.
@braelinmichelus
@braelinmichelus 6 жыл бұрын
This was uploaded on my birthday! What a great surprise!
@RangerOfTheOrder
@RangerOfTheOrder 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up with one of those. (I think it's still in my mom's family room) It's so cool to finally see how it works
@thequintessentialgamer7514
@thequintessentialgamer7514 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly 8 months after you said you're at 100k subs you're at 231k so you must be doing pretty good, well done.
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