Sights and Sounds: Pioneer CLD-M301 (LD player / 5-disc CD changer)

[@Chloe-ju7jp]

I love how even the noises are described in detail in the captions

[@DaedalusYoung]

[disc rapidly slows down]

[@rpavlik1]

He does pretty well with that even in the "main stream" videos, which is appreciated.

[@aspecreviews]

@@DaedalusYoung the disc slowing down sounds like regenerative braking...

[@wendyg1059]

If any of you here haven't watched this with the closed captioning on, I highly recommend it. I love the descriptions he put in for the sounds, etc., that it makes as it's searching/playing discs, lmao!

[@oxybrightdark8765]

I need to use subtitles for accessibility, so the fact Alec puts so much effort in is a main reason I started watching his channel. I didn't know what a CED was when I started watching, and I didn't care, but the fact I could understand the jokes was brilliant.

[@wendyg1059]

@@oxybrightdark8765 It really is awesome that he takes the time to actually put subtitles in, instead of letting KZbin do their automated subtitle thing. Although, some of the automated subtitles can be quite amusing, especially on videos where the person talking is mumbling a little, lol!

[@dominiknovosel883]

@@wendyg1059 I know, right? Once, when I was watching a cooking show, the automatic captions said to "coat the turkey in Meredith". 🤣 Edit: Aww... thanks for the like!

[@tysshed5807]

So glad I saw your comment, I never have the captions on but it was soooo worth it.

[@z1pbomb]

Subtitles on this man's videos are always worth having on. There's actual character in them.

[@abou824]

So cool that you took the time to do accurate closed captioning. That must have taken forever but I'm sure it's greatly appreciated by those of us that are hard of hearing.

[@_GhostMiner]

He might have paid someone to do it for him. 🙂

[@jeesjees2]

These are the most 90's sounds I've heard all day, year probably, even.

[@Trainfan1055Janathan]

I love how comically large Laser Discs are. When I was a kid, I heard of them, but never saw one. I thought it was another word for "DVD." Same thing with HD DVD.

[@pHD77]

You and a whole lot of other people. Just recently introduced a friend to LaserDisc, who, like you, also thought the word laserdisc was just some sort of generic word to describe optical discs, that require laser to get the information on a disc. When he first saw that 12" shiny disc, his eyes widened. "Holy crap, that's like a DVD on steroids!" 😂

[@Muonium1]

ever seen a big black giant 8 inch floppy diskette? they're hilarious

[@InvadersDie]

@@Muonium1 I see a big black giant 8 inch floppy every time I shower m8

[@InvadersDie]

it's stuck behind the cabinet and I can't be bothered to get it out

[@Bluehawk2008]

Just tell people "it's like a 78 LP record but with a movie on it."

[@repatch43]

Damn, it surprises me EVERY time how BIG those LDs are!

[@CantankerousDave]

They’re also extremely heavy.

[@darwisyaiman1865]

That motor surely stronger than your regular dvd player😂

[@Del_S]

The Comically Large Spoon of discs compared to the Regular Spoon of a standard sized CD. ...And I guess those miniature ones like they used in the Gamecube are like teaspoons.

[@rebmcr]

"I wonder which CD he's going to use, maybe it will be chosen to escape the wrath of Content ID?" Raffi's Bananaphone:

[@wakjagner]

That split rack idea is fascinating. I love seeing these sort of technological implementations of simple solutions to consumer needs. And the individual who came up with it is probably forgotten to the sands of time.

[@tra-viskaiser8737]

For a minute when I looked at the thumbnail, I thought techmoan made a new video.. lol. Thank you for your work on all the awesome subjects and mechinecs you have covered.

[@clumsyacres2599]

Can you imagine adapting one of these to a Playstation 4? That would be a real game changer.

[@becauseimafan]

I see what you did there 👀😆

[@nickwallette6201]

GET OUT. haha

[@jesuschrist711]

I mean it's theorhetically possible, but at the same time the amount of work just isnt worth saving you a few seconds to change games. would be really cool to see though

[@TJDunaway]

Ld size blu-ray

[@phillipallen5564]

That's awesome I always thought the Wii was a laserdisk in highschool and thought game cube games were bigger DVDs Cruz I'd stretch the aspect of image too look like 16x9

[@crnobog]

That CD pickup arm for the Pioneer... just... wow... it just wakes some emotions in me I never knew I had...

[@nickwallette6201]

Definitely an interesting choice. I think if I were engineering it, I would have tried to find a way to swing the laser sled carriage around under the tray. There's a bit of complexity in that the spindle motor would have to move from dead center (for the LD) to mid-perimeter for the CDs, and the carriage would have to fit the entire length of an LD and still have room to turn. But I think that could still work, assuming they're even using the same spindle and carriage anyway.

[@sultanmutschi]

great improvement to the first video! i like how you describe first what is going to happen and then just let the sound take over, your naration improved a lot too! Thank you for doing these!

[@ObsoleteVodka]

It's kind of sad to realize this amazing engineering is not in our homes anymore. And maybe manufacturers are not what they used to be because they don't have to face these kinds of challenges today. For a team to come up with something like what's seen in this video it would need more than just knowledge, skills or even experience.

[@Imthefake]

i love how precisely described are the sounds in the subtitles

[@Dia1Up]

My friends have a 5 disk DVD player like this weirdly enough. Although the whole tray itself rotated. I can say after many years, they never really had a use for the disk changing capability. We would just throw in the movie we wanted

[@shawnmulberry774]

Im a big fan of the faint chirpy noise that you hear from some disc drives as they spin up. Very specific source of joy but that is what happens to work.

[@Games_and_Music]

Chirpy, that's a good way to describe it. I like them as well and always wondered what exactly produces it. Is it the laser, is it a recalibration, is it something spooling up, how is the noise created in the process etc., it always puzzled me as it is nothing like the clunks and whirrs that the CD players also produce.

[@nickwallette6201]

@@Games_and_Music I'm not 100% sure either. It's some combination of the laser lens focusing electromagnetically, and the worm drive settling on the exact location. Very unique, and chirpy is precisely the term for it.

[@Rickmakes]

I had a Pioneer 18 disc changer (3 x 6 disc cart) back in the day. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Now I can carry my entire music collection on a micro SD card the size of my thumbnail and I don't even think twice about it.

[@Jerseyboy777]

I had a Pioneer 100 disc CD changer that I almost filled at the height of my collecting days.

[@ernestbeckley]

It's hard to imagine this was cutting-edge technology at some point, and I'm 60 years old!

[@NotMoreGames]

Wow such an amazing over engineered product. Lovely thing to own - but you know when (not if) it fails there are so many things to go wrong and be very difficult to fix - not to mention there’s a few (significant understatement) caps that are prone to leaking that will need replacement- definitely a project for those used to these kind of repairs. Me excluded sadly. Thanks for sharing.

[@_AvaGlass]

Thank you so much for making these Sights & Sounds videos.

[@CXW429]

You put so much detail in the closed captioning, I'm impressed!

[@torren5950]

The fact that "Poodle Hat" is one of the dedicated chosen discs is very important to me.

[@Phred_Phlintstoner]

I agree. The second I saw it, I starting laughing immediately.

[@Series1969]

I have this exact LD player. Love all the sounds it makes.

[@jmchez]

I had a Pioneer LD player, Then this Pioneer LD and CD changer, then a Sony 200 disc CD player and a Pioneer LD and DVD player. Now, I have thousands of movies, TV shows, and songs in 24 terabytes' worth of hard drives controlled by a Plex media server. I am finally happy with my media handling system.

[@WilhelmDriscoll]

Pioneer really is impressive with what they did with their LaserDisc players. I have a CLD-79 with the dual-side feature but that thing is even more impressive.

[@kellerGonZo]

I dont really know why i'm watching this, but this stuff is amazing :D dicovered your videos a few months ago ( also the main channel) and I'm fascinated by that stuff, keep up the nice work :D

[@gmscott9319]

I love my DVL-700. Pioneer used to make such great equipment!

[@max-if7wk]

It’d be really cool if you could make sound files available of the final takes without voiceover for sampling, sound design, etc.

[@kisaragi-hiu]

The sound portions are without voiceover, so it should be easy to just cut the audio for that purpose. A sample pack as eg. a Patreon perk would be interesting though!

[@pdeer271]

@@kisaragi-hiu There are a handful of times when he is talking at the same time as the machine moving, but it is fairly rare. 🙂

[@Choralone422]

It may sound funny but I miss hearing the sounds of audio & video gear of the past. We took it for granted back then but there was always something neat about the sound of a VCR loading a tape, a CD changer changing discs or a tape deck auto reversing. In particular I always loved the sound the Pioneer magazine style 6 disc CD changer made when it changed discs. So satisfying!

[@TotalXPvideos]

Your comment actually made me warm up to these videos a bit, I dont put out negative comments cause i know the accessibility is a good thing and people like this sorta content but the almost...ASMR? Feel of the videos were a bit hard on my attention span. Your point was something I didn't think about and can actually appreciate now aswell.

[@Sparky-ww5re]

Seeing a KZbin video of a LaserDisc player takes me back to my childhood of the 1990s. In 3rd or 4th grade around 1997 to '98, of course they still had the D.A.R.E. program, and the presentation was on LaserDisc. Now a 33 yr old man with a little bit of gray hair 😂 to this day I'll never forget how my eyes opened up and my jaw dropped while watching my teacher slide the disk out of it's sleeve and inserting it into the player.

[@getyerspn]

Like the CC's on this one very descriptive...I had one of these players in the UK ..my granddad loved laser discs and he gave me the player .. I personally only ever used it for cd's...the sounds bring back memories of a bygone time... haven't used a physical disc of any kind for easily over 7 years now.

[@jonathankleinow2073]

Yet another commenter here to thank you for the captions with detailed descriptions of the noises. It's like listening to Evan Doorbell guide you through the steps of a phone call as it moves over carriers to different tandems on its way to the final connection.

[@KurtisRader]

I'm a grey beard and cinephile. I was an early Laserdisc adopter and owned several Pioneer Laserdisc players (but not the CLD-M301). I still have one; although I haven't powered it up in over five years. Thanks for the insight into the internals of these machines.

[@ZealotSmurf]

Thank you for using the open/close button rather than pushing the tray closed like some people do. I remember when my friend shoved my first cd rom tray closed instead of using the button. I almost came unglued.

[@nickwallette6201]

I feel ya, but they.. uh.. do have microswitches in them for that very reason. :-) Maybe it was a design intention, or just an acknowledgement that it was going to happen anyway, so may as well cater to it. There are even a few machines that don't give you access to the button, so your only option is to push the drawer closed. ugh.. seems barbarian.

[@ZealotSmurf]

@@nickwallette6201 yeah, eventually those plastic gears seem to grind a bit. It might be my imagination, but if i remember correctly it happened more to my friends who were always pushing the tray closed, eventually they ended up with drives that operated more like laptop (pc) drives.

[@Deses]

This is the only ASMR that does something for me.

[@monotonehell]

It's been a long time since I heard these noises. I used to have one of these back in the day. Long time gone.

[@jazbell7]

Machines like that are complicated mechanical nightmares just waiting to break or jam.

[@Nekcalb]

I would suggest in future series perhaps adding some text to the screen stating the time frame of the technology being shown, maybe even the model number and a description of the device. Myself being manufactured during the Nixon administration have experienced the way technology has changed so much over the decades, from 8 tracks, records, and AM only radios for music, the first generation home VCR's (the remote had a cord), and even having the first home video game console the Magnavox Odyssey. Reliving the sights and sounds from technology from my past is quite entertaining for myself, younger generations would have little to no idea what era these machines are from, and perhaps would have interest knowing a little more about what they are seeing and hearing. These two disc changers i would guess are from the early to mid 1990's.

[@TDOBrandano]

I bet that the steel pin in front of the CD player motor is supposed to engage the disk tray to ensure it is aligned properly, and probably the plastic groove it is supposed to slot in is worn out.

[@nickwallette6201]

That is a good hypothesis.

[@skywing959]

Interesting to see what's going on, and both so much better than my Technics CD changer. It just has a single CD sized tray, and to change discs it lifts them off the tray and stores them within the machine. So loading multiple discs is time consuming as after loading each disc you have to wait for it to close the tray, change discs, then open the tray again before you can load the next one.

[@HouseGurke]

The subtitles are a work of art

[@KurtRichterCISSP]

Keep being awesome you awesome human 😎👍

[@MatchaMakesThings]

This is a fantastic video series i hope comes back!

[@wormboy420]

I’m so happy to see you posted this. I’ve had a M403 model that powers on but something internally isn’t allowing it to kick out the tray. And haven’t been able to find any videos of that model or one like it that has the 5 disc CD changer aspect layout, but thanks to you I have now! I’m gonna watch this as soon as I get home from the store & see if this video helps me fix my Laserdisc player! I just might get to finally watch the two LD movies I own. 🤩 *wish me luck!*

[@unknownwake]

I was wondering why you had such gnarly microphone hum until i remembered that's just what a powered on CRT sounds like.

[@metalsonic66]

That drum intro to Banana Phone is so recognizable

[@JBLewis]

Back in the Mid-nineties, a friend bought a LD player. He asked us what movie he should buy first, I campaigned and convinced him to buy Mel Brooks' "Blazing Saddles". It was around this time that the "Criterion Edition" LDs became a big thing, too.

[@BixbyConsequence]

We had a compact JVC system that had a 6-CD rectangular "cassette" mechanism that we really liked for about 10 years until the iTunes era.

[@nrdesign1991]

This sounds SUPER similar to the simple Pioneer laser Disc player I had a few years ago, the loading mechanism must use the same motor.

[@valuevinyl110]

Anytime I hear TMBG... Especially S-E-X-X-Y... Is a glorious day... Good thing you did not get copy struck for it!

[@CantankerousDave]

8:35 - I’ve had that misalignment problem on two different players, but with laserdiscs. It eventually connects after five or more tries. (One is a regular Pioneer LD player, but the first was a multi-disc unit like this, but made by Sony. I bought it in…. 1991, I think?)

[@meh6722]

That overhead shot of the device around @11:10 was really nicely done. At least on 2x speed I watched it.

[@treker2379]

Did anyone else have a horizontal style CD changer? My parents still have one that holds, I think, 25 CDs and uses a sort of swing arm to pull discs out of the slot and play them. I'd love to see the inside of one of those.

[@hazy33]

I think you mean vertical? They looked really stylish. Well they did when I was younger 🙂

[@frankowalker4662]

I love the fact you are doing these videos. Being a bit deaf, the nuances are lost on me, but for the partialy sighted they must be awsome.

[@MatroxMillennium]

I have one of these guys in my living room entertainment center cabinet, so *these* sights and sounds were very familiar to me!

[@timehunter9467]

My old stereo had a system like this. It worked similar to the Sony in this, only it was made more compact because the disks were at an angle. It also lifted the disks to play but I don’t think you could change disks.

[@evilgeniusha01]

Is there anything preventing the robot arm from moving a CD from one tray to another? It's obviously not implemented in the control logic but is there any physical reason it couldn't do that?

[@Alexander_l322]

It’s self aware!

[@pashko90]

no, just software.

[@Alexander_l322]

@@pashko90 you’re one of them!

[@tb_eest]

There is not. The robot arm can spin a full 360° around. Unimpeded by anything. It just remembers that disc 5 has to go back to place 5 before it can pick up the next CD.

[@nickwallette6201]

Yep, it definitely _could,_ there's just no reason to.

[@CrashCarson14]

I like the little wobbly sound it makes as it plays the laserdisc

[@diez66]

Used to have a 110 (or there about) multi-disk, Pioneer, I think. I did enjoy the noises it made as it did it thing. Long gone. Also Picked it up once to move it and all the disks did a runner and hid themselves all around the inside of the machine. That was a fun day.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

I can't believe I can hear that CRT through the microphone and my headphones, aw man. I still can't believe we grew up with CRTs all around us whining all high pitched.

[@paulkocyla1343]

The 80´s devices imho had the best aesthetics. And I love the tracking sound of the optical system :) As well as the clutch/drive/gear stuff. I still remember my first Canon Video8 cam, what a wonder of technology!

[@rosskwolfe]

Ray Lynch! Excellent choice.

[@ianstorey1521]

The clunking sounds take me back. I always worried something was about to break. I don’t miss them.

[@loggerbomb]

I like how multi disc players come off obsessive compulsive when you dont load them. Going through each slot like, "is anything here?....damn, nope.... anything HERE? damn, nope, ANYTHING HERE??? DAMMIT NOPE!.....

[@nickwallette6201]

It takes a lot of effort for some, which makes the IR reflection check of that Sony all the more clever. It just turns the carousel and does its whole inventory in like three seconds with very little effort. Sony's engineering choices weren't always the most impressive solution, but maybe the most elegant solution.

[@mikemx55]

7:31 can you fill all the 5 disk positions and then close it while the 6th disk is playing? Would that break the thing and ruing the spinning CD against the new one that would be bellow it?

[@valhallassparebusdriver7915]

It would break the CD at the very least. However, the changer knows which disc it is currently holding on to, and will not allow you to access that slot. Therefore, once you stop the machine or change discs, the disc that was playing while the tray was open will always have a free space to be set down upon.

[@BlameItOnGreg]

With how one of the target audiences for this series is blind people, I can’t help myself from noting things that might be confusing to them, like how he shuffled one of the CDs when he put in five, so it could have sounded like he put in six or seven, instead of five.

[@bobby_greene]

I give it 3 years until we hear this audio sampled and made into the beat of a hit song

[@kenshannon761]

One year to go...

[@ryanb9873]

Man I just love the old "ohm" Pioneer logo

[@binky_bun]

My parents have a JVC cd changer. It's similar to a lot of automotive cd changers in that is uses a magazine with 5 trays and at the back of the machine there is a mechanism that grabs the trays with the disc and takes it down to the player section below the magazine. It's pretty dumb in that it picks up every tray and loads it to see if there's a disc present but it's never once gotten jammed in 30 years. There was some really interesting engineering going on back then. Looking back it seems odd that we had stuff like that but it took us another 20 years to make 3D printing something people could do at home

[@kadepow11]

Also remember that computers were WAY less powerful back in the day. Sure, they could've made 3D printers, but computing technology wasn't fast enough to handle operating the thing

[@binky_bun]

@@kadepow11 it was plenty fast enough especially in the late 90s. It was mostly patents and legal crap that held things like 3D printing back for so long

[@kadepow11]

@@binky_bun you're right, I was thinking time period of early 80s lol

[@H3wastooshort]

The 15.75khz noise from the CRT is pretty audible to me and a bit unpleasant. I suggest adding a filter to the shots audio to cut off everything between 15kHz and 16.5kHz or so using the Equalizer filter of your cutting software. Your could check in a spectrogram (audacity can do this with tracks) if it was cut out or not if you are unable to hear it.

[@Alexander_l322]

I didn’t hear any 15 kHz noise

[@H3wastooshort]

@Alex your ears are probably not sensitive enough anymore

[@H3wastooshort]

@Alex just checked in audacity to make sure i heard it correctly. there is a big fat continuous line at 15.75kHz in all sections containing audio from the shots with the TV.

[@DocFlareon]

@@H3wastooshort Indeed, once a person reaches the upper 20s in age, the sensitivity to 15+ kHz sound goes bye-bye.

[@nickwallette6201]

Hey, WE heard that sound every time we were in the vicinity of a TV or a monitor or a POS terminal or an ATM machine for like 20 years. You can survive 30 seconds of video. :-P

[@CybershamanX]

(10:04) LOL! Is that Weird Al? Love it! 😀

[@Phred_Phlintstoner]

Yes. Yes it is. I'm pretty sure it is the poodle hat album.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

I find it fun to watch how the machine does what it do and listen to the clank

[@ThalassTKynn]

Man some of those clunks gave me the scratched cd anxieties. And I haven't used a cd player for years!

[@bannisher]

This brings me back.

[@The_Hanter]

7:40 - I wonder what would happen if you put another CD on that empty space and close tray because it's clearly accessible when tray is turning

[@MasonAK.1]

Ring ring ring... banana phone I about died laughing when I heard that out of nowhere 😂

[@spacemissing]

Nothing else whirrs, klunks, and grrroaoaoanns like a Pioneer LD machine. (I have owned a CLD-D702 since July of 1993.)

[@brooklynfirewolf]

Very meditative and soothing

[@ultrablack7271]

I love this series!

[@bobbabai]

Love the Mad Magazine "ging-ging" sound of that spring

[@jack8407]

So much content i might overdose!

[@PookyMo100]

I miss those very clicky-sounding controls on antiques ... you could call those that now, right? 😆

[@CerberusProject]

The fact this video (no exaggeration) hurt my ears with the high pitched CRT sounds, just coming from my PHONE, tells me the audio is as close to real life as possible 🤣

[@K-o-R]

I might have asked this in the main video but, at 7:50 does the machine specifically not let the empty tray become visible so you can't accidentally put a disc in it and cause problems?

[@TechnologyConnextras]

In the Ex-Change mode, yes. It presents the discs two-at-a-time so the empty slot with the disc that's currently playing is never shown. It's quite clever!

[@vlycop7404]

the one i have at home do that yes, you can't access the empty and loaded tray. On the other hand if you have a space trully empty, it's also the first one it will present to you :)

[@Ghetto_Smosh]

How were these comments made, 2 days before the upload seemingly happened?

[@chadhouser3190]

@@Ghetto_Smosh I wondered that myself unless it’s his Patreon’s…… just a thought

[@Ghetto_Smosh]

@@chadhouser3190 I thought that too, but it was actually uploaded like 20 minutes ago. I'm not sure if un-privating it counts as not uploading it, but it is weird.

[@chrisa2735-h3z]

That little Sony tinetron so cute!

[@UncleWalter1]

[we hear the same multi-motor shenanigans before the disc tray opens]

[@MLeoDaalder]

I guess there aren't any motion sensors (nevermind those mems ones!) to quickly stop the spinner when it detects a sudden jolt (like someone tripping over a cable)?

[@Friedbrain11]

I had a 5 disc dvd player at one time. It was good and not good at the same time. It had the problem of not being properly designed software. So it could not just go to the disc you wanted. It had to cycle through the discs first until it got to the one you wanted at the time. So it was frustrating, but it was cool as I didn't have to worry about getting up to change discs. It also played CDs but it did not play Laserdiscs. I believe it was a Toshiba but not sure nowadays. My machine was a lot like the Sony machine in design.

[@shanematthews1985]

Never dislike nerd ASMR

[@Deses]

You can't dislike anymore anyway.

[@lukastemberger]

I had this TV in my room in my early teens :)

[@Firthy2002]

I love how Pioneer engineered all those different mechanisms for their LD players. I thought the Epsilon turn mechanism was amazing and this is definitely in the same league. Does the M301 have dedicated speaker outputs so it could be used solely as a CD changer with any speaker set?

[@dominiknovosel883]

"[laser seeky noises]" -Technology Connextras captions, 2021

[@Sanutep]

Ahh, the sound of nostalgia...

[@DeltaOps3]

Yall should do this in binaural audio

[@nickwallette6201]

Yes!

[@bobriemersma]

Anyone remember CD changers that fit in the PC drive bay form-factor? I still have one. Anyone remember in-dash car stereo CD changers?

[@Alexander_l322]

Yes cartridge changers

[@tookitogo]

@@Alexander_l322 No, slot or tray loading.

[@xsleep1]

Still have one in my 2008 Lexus RX (3 disc I think). Never use it but still have it. By the way, the player I labeled as capable of DTS. Why one would care about that in an automobile, even one a quiet as a Lexus, is beyond me.

[@nickwallette6201]

I have a couple of Nakamichi CD-ROM changers. Very neat mechanisms, having packed 4 or 5 discs and a reader in the form factor of a normal single-disc tray-loading CD-ROM. Given they have to be compact and thus can't travel far, they're pretty quick to load and unload.

[@Mikey_the_Protogen]

Please add a high frequency filter because the CRT screens emit a high frequency that older people can't hear unlike how we can hear it. 1:07

[@princessharold]

"And now I'll switch to disc 5" Oh, Factory Showroom.

[@Hurtydwarf]

The laser disc sounds like a Jetsons spaceship taking off when it starts up.

[@eshock9208]

Could you do a video on how the cd changers in cars work? Like the 6 disc cd changers that came in car radios

[@magma2050]

I spy the Poodle Hat album :) It's the one with the "secret" video on the PC-readable data track.