The Celestial LION | Cathay vs Norsca - Total War Warhammer 3

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[@trojaborg]

Berrserk just out there, continuing to prove that he's the Lord of the Forbidden Tech.

[@renzbolado153]

I don't know how long he's been in Turin's community but since his Demons of Chaos triple large entity build in the recent tournament, im pumped whenever I see hes in a match

[@Travolta12e]

@@renzbolado153 lol the same. He's my favorite player to watch right now

[@zadintuvas5846]

@@renzbolado153 Could you share a link to that please

[@RippersGlory]

@@zadintuvas5846 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioLGYoBjrdF8b6c he's referring to this live stream tournament

[@russ2120]

Non-RTK players are so fun to watch.

[@Jaws972011]

that seafang at 9:01

[@Khorothis]

Glad I wasn't the only one who caught it, that was juicy

[@bearistotle2820]

Dang, that was one of the best uses of it I have ever seen.

[@user-sd9dk5ir7v]

at least it only killed peasants

[@nickfrancalangia9586]

crazy that cathay not only recovered from that but kind of shrugged off getting three units erased

[@kylemorin3945]

Wow, what a dynamic way to play Cathay! And Houseplant once again showing why he's one of the GOATs- he just doesn't quit!

[@alistairo314]

My jaw dropped multiple times watching Berrserk's gameplay. I've been watching this channel since WH2 and I don't know if I've watched any match with this level of tactical intrigue. Setting it up to be a lane fight and then laying a trap on the Norscan back line... The leadership crushing... The boldness of the micro. This is the kind of gameplay that makes me wonder why I even bother playing myself because I don't think I'll ever reach that height. In a good way. Kudos.

[@nosir5596]

This was a super cool match and felt really thematic. Having the core Cathayan army anchoring things down while their more elite high mobility units so effectively preyed on Norsca's leadership weakness, a very cool battle executed very well tactically. Love to see it.

[@RandomGuy0204]

Seeing a unit of full health trolls routing will always be funny

[@horrocko]

I don't think I've ever seen Cathay being played that dynamically. The forbidden tech is strong with this one.

[@Bans94]

Was just about to tuck into bed with a pint of beer then I see Turin upload: Fantastic way to end the morning.

[@xyro3633]

Found the Dwarf

[@ofgreyhairwaifu4089]

Drinking beer in bed just to knock yourself out sleeping doesn't seem like something anyone should endorse...

[@Bans94]

@@xyro3633 SHORT?!?

[@DrBoofenstein]

@@ofgreyhairwaifu4089friggin nerd !

[@mangokun5002]

Watching Beserk is a treat. Always shaking up the meta and bringing some interesting picks. Makes these battles so much more interesting for viewers 👍

[@KnoxZone]

Very excited to see how the meta gets shaken up in a few weeks. ...Although to be honest I think I'm more excited just to see more Empire, Nurgle, and the Dawi games being played.

[@bruuuuuuuuhhhh]

I'm most excited to see the Nurgle units in action. Pestigors and Rot Knights especially look like they'll be pretty good. An elite, actually fast cav unit and some cheap, quick vanguard deploy great weapons. Tamurkhan might be cool to watch too with all his abilities.

[@emultra759]

@@bruuuuuuuuhhhh Time for Turin's Ku'gath build to make a comeback, now that it'll have some quicker response to offer?

[@Allpiety]

As soon as we saw the Celestial Lion come out with that ITP-stripping ability I knew some dark lord was going to shock the world; awesome match by Berrserk

[@paulkersey3042]

Very interesting to see the very Mobile Build of Cathay. Maybe Norsca brings in some Javelins to screen them out? Unga Bunga wasn't bad, there were some misplays that certainly worked against him. Throwing Wulfrik into spears and leaving him there wasn't great, losing a quarter of his health to peasants is pretty bad. Very good game though, I'd like to see this Cathay style again, love seeing the experimental stuff.

[@Dramn_]

The bombardment is also kinda cool cause if you whiff it doesn't just do nothing and feel horrible while at the same time, still costing micro to fix the miss Very good balance for that I think

[@shinyforehead5519]

this was one the coolest casts you've posted EVER! that cathy leadership bomb strat was INSANE!!!

[@nikeaddict55]

I'm guessing the Astro was a comet/Urannons caster if Houseplant went Marauder Champions, since dragon's breath has no AP

[@CanadianBacon9719]

Berserk again proving the meta isn’t all that it seems, I’ve long thought it been undercooked so to speak. Super excited to see how things develop with the next DLC

[@hlb99]

This game was cool, not only an offmeta build but also and incredible gameplay. And even tho Norsca is meta we don't see it that much, so at least was interesting. We need more games like this.

[@SyBorg-to3ni]

This was honestly one of the funnest games I have ever seen, Berrserk is a genius

[@N0ahface]

A second match between these two? Truly you spoil me

[@healinglight333]

These guys should get payed to play 🤩 Amazing game, extremely dynamic Cathay play, have never seem anything like it and the tenacity of Norsca was legendary. But Norsca does need some loving, some rework, something to bring them into the more modern time so to speak 🙂 GGs!

[@WPTheRabbitHole]

i love these casted battles.. they go great with coffee in the morning

[@Wvk5zc]

thats a lot of micro involved to pull off something like this! :O

[@jaxolith1]

That was amazing, one of the best battles ever posted

[@wobyr832]

Man your thumbnail killed me😂

[@jakubkoubsky]

Absolutely amazing Cathay build and play.

[@SprySpace]

Berrserk is such a cool player, always does something interesting!

[@billymitcham7765]

As a Norscan Main its nice to see people still play the faction but they DESPERATELY need an updated! They have the tools to fight any faction but there just bare bones compared to all the others that have way more options. Great match and video by the way!

[@lich109]

They're in the top factions right now, they don't "desperately" need an update.

[@RYUcaEU]

do you even know that Norsca is literally a top tier faction with the third highest %winrate in competitive? 😂 no, they dont need a rework, they need some nerfs at max 💀

[@billymitcham7765]

@@RYUcaEU I did not know that they were in the top tier win rate.

[@lich109]

@@billymitcham7765 Norsca is literally #3 on the leaderboards.

[@billymitcham7765]

@@lich109 I did not know that thank you for the information when I play no one picks them and the matches I see they normally lose thanks for the heads up!👍

[@simondiebolt5354]

Fantastic mathc, Berrserk is really a very entertaining player to watch!

[@RYUcaEU]

finally some alternative and interesting matchups!! and finally some Cathay enjoyer in competitive!!! Love to see it!!

[@viktor7879]

a KILLER Seafang by Houseplant at 9:00 !

[@Khorothis]

Maybe the Astromancer had Comet against Champions? The Alchemist with Plague of Rust seems more like a pick for gooning, considering Berrserk's build. Anyway, thanks for the bedtime game cast, brother, I sincerely appreciate it!

[@sandercohen9712]

Games with Berrserk are just never boring are they? Such an interesting player.

[@arcadius2569]

Now that is Aerial battle done right, picking them apart one by one! That junk also providing harmony and artillery for the entire game was disgusting.

[@emultra759]

Not a bad effort for a faction that hasn't been updated since the onset of photosynthesis.

[@majormoolah5056]

You know, I never talk about economy and politics, but there is something you should know. I follow the economic news and its becoming clear that US inflation is picking up pace. If annualise the rate of the last three months, you get inflation of 5%. Some say that Washington jukes the stats so it could be even higher but who knows. However, the Fed is going to cut rates. Why? Because US is in a debt crisis. Every three months, the federal government takes on another trillion in debt and every four months it adds another hundred billion on the interest payments. So US government is basically in a debt spiral where it needs to lend money to pay the interest payments! Not the principal, the interest payments! So the Fed has to cut interest rates because Uncle Sam cannot afford high interest rates. They also need to monetize part of the debt, which means money printing. This means that inflation is going to accelerate even faster once Fed decides to cut rates, as it has promised to do. If you have life savings in dollars, you should prepare yourself. I have nothing to sell you, but if you have access to a financial advisor, you should contact them and say that the rising inflation is worrying and you want to protect your wealth. This probably means buying silver or gold. Asking about it at least will not hurt you, but once inflation begins to pick up pace and you are unprepared, it will have devastating consequences to you and your wife.

[@williammitchell6254]

Do yall think the nurgle rot knights are going to be meta, or stuck in the trashcan with skullcrushers?

[@williammitchell6254]

Reddit think they are gonna be insanely overpowered.

[@Nickelback8469]

I think it'll depend on how much jank is in their attack animations (rest in peace Rot Flies) and cost, but having a mobile, AP anti large will be really useful on the Nurgle roster so there's a lot of potential

[@bruuuuuuuuhhhh]

Well like Nickelback said, some actual mobility for Nurgle on top of AP and anti large will be pretty spicy for certain matchups

[@tawkoeh]

He’s calling the skin wolves “condom wolves” right? Not sure if I’m mishearing it lol

[@callumcochrane7759]

You must be new here. Skyn is a condom brand, he's been making the "Skyn" wolf joke for years.

[@pinkfloyd19831]

Is this a game from the tournament last week where Beserk won?

[@CatholicAlcoholic]

These are games from Housecats tournament's top 16 iirc, not the season finals, even though Houseplant and Berrsserk played in both of those The GS-TK match from a few days ago was from the same tournament, and you'll probably see a couple more replays from that tournament in the next few days until ToD embargo is lifted

[@Anvilarm07]

Cool to see Cathay in dom. Thanks.

[@thethrongler3070]

I comment just to help turin out in the algorithm

[@-nav-398]

If Norsca could somehow anticipate the celestial lion, I wonder what would be a good counter. Something like Javelins to poke away and keep Berrserk honest?

[@lich109]

Javelins would be a good answer, they could probably take its HP down real quick and punish the greedy early plays.

[@ramos_pinho117]

Hard to predict non meta cathay build. If you bring javs and you go against arterallie and firing build than the javs gonna suck. Non meta is hard to predict

[@lich109]

@@ramos_pinho117 Javelins are good against their horsemen, they're okay at hurting Junks, and even if the only target is going to be crowmen, they put out a decent amount of hurt there too. Bringing them is a decent enough bet, even if it's a small amount since throwing axes are better against all of Cathay's armour.

[@R3GARnator]

Trolls are meant to fight from amidst friendly infantry, this goes to show.

[@peertimm9075]

I'm noticing a trend across different TW:W-Channels to sending in more L replays. Thats great! For me as the audience it gets very stale, when I just have to look at the colors and in 9/10 cases it is Green that wins. Not so much these days. Also it shows good sportsmanship which increases my excitenment even more. I hope it stays like that for a while :)

[@kattemallo]

great game!

[@jonaslevoyer4030]

Turin could we get more land battle vids?

[@liamcullen3035]

Good on both players! One of the coolest battles I’ve seen!

[@eumaies]

really nice match

[@matthewryan7775]

What is the maximum number of casters you can take?

[@bruuuuuuuuhhhh]

Don't think there's a limit. Although more than 1 may be useless because of managing Winds

[@Dramn_]

​@@bruuuuuuuuhhhhHe might mean in terms of rules, but maybe you also mean that Either way idek

[@callumcochrane7759]

Unit caps limit you to 1 lord and 2 heroes.

[@TehGnomeh]

At last, Turin posted and my day can begin.

[@Blecco]

The what wolves!?

[@fallenprince7591]

Sky Junk heard no bell (Unlike the Trolls)

[@KnudAutlermann]

Wait Celestial Lion removes ITP?!?!? Why not used against Slaanesh who's entire roster is ITP?? Triple Celestial Lion, one of which the Celestial General with the AoE sweep ability to destroy Whip-Warriors/Chosen. You have 3 large SEs to take down any sort of Large. Jade Warriors hold the line well enough against Mortal Units and if they bring Daemons, you have a -15 leadership (-25 if charging from rear) flying SE to start Daemonic Instability. Not only that, Slaanesh's ability to contest the air game is extremely limited between Marauder Horseman as their only ranged, and Azazel/Furies (both of which are Daemonic) who are definitely no match for 3 C-Lions. Has no one thought of this before or am I missing some key details?

[@MarineCARMINE]

I'm still waiting on that Norsca rework we were promised, also a DLC would be nice.

[@lich109]

When did they promise a Norsca rework? I've looked around online and found nothing.

[@Zephilian]

@@lich109 They promised a Norsca rework around the CoC pr push

[@lich109]

@@Zephilian Where did they do that? I'm still finding nothing.

[@Zephilian]

@@lich109 You're in for "fun" its from pr stuff from 2 years ago. When the rework for woc was being hyped. And no I'm not going back through old CA interviews and blog post for a random. It is more of a trivia thing now CA's plans now are not the plans from a year ago or the ones from 2 years ago.

[@lich109]

@@Zephilian I looked as far back as 2017, I never saw anything about it. I also never saw anything about it when they were hyping up Champions of Chaos. If I'm missing it, please direct me to where I can find it, but the most I found was from two years ago, when Legend of Total War said Norsca was going to be reworked. I'd very much like to see more than that.

[@noure8117]

🎉

[@richardmacias624]

I new a new video from you every day please, thanks.

[@regulusm1518]

GG

[@Mortarion-xt9wp]

I think the troops of Cathey should have synced animations. Imagine Jade Warriors all swinging at the same time or Ironhail Gunners shooting in sync! Obviously it would only happen if they are in harmony and the formation is stable. It would make the Catheyens a lot cooler in my opinion but wouldn't change the game much ( I know that dmg is tied to the animations). Who is with me?

[@silvo72]

proof that we must demote Rakarth to hero

[@hotdog9262]

been saying for a long time flying units are too powerful for the cost. they can freely move anywhere at speed with equal combat stats to ground units, always choosing fights. and they always get the charge vs ground units

[@twitchEmailOkay]

This is only the second match I’ve seen houseplant lose. Crazy