The Cello Lesson That All Musicians MUST WATCH!

[@heitordias4091]

Amazing! Tortelier was indeed a genius! P.S.: guess I know your student 😅

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

Haha! You guessed it right! 😄

[@stevegebhart8388]

Ilia, thanks for featuring Torteliers brilliant comments on scales. Indeed, if one does not master scales (if that is possible), one can never have the command to consider making love with music.

[@jorgerivas1424]

Thanks, Ilia. Everybody in my part of the country needs to see it. Their philosophy is that music is to make noise at sporting events and that's the way it's taught in school. Gone are the days of morally uplifting, transcendent classical music.

[@TheBereangirl]

So true! As John Lennox said, "The problem with people trying to be stupider than they are is that quite often they succeed." Apply this principle to music at sporting events and what do you get? π°|§€! Congratulations to the sporting event band, you've succeeded.😒🔊😭

[@CanadianDivergent]

@jorgerivas1424 yep! in fact it goes much further when you consider hat composers in classical music wrote using the occult and esoteric 3:6:9 ratio's into the music. this is why A= 432 is better than=440 because 4+3+2 = 9 each ratio corresponds to a healing frequency. never use 440 or 415 tuning. research the meanings behind 3:6:9 ratio's and how those cycles were used in music. Start with Tesla, he understood this with his 3:6:9 ratios in his work. It will blow your mind.

[@mylesjordan9970]

I once visited M. Tortelier for a lesson. He began by warming up with his usual routine-all twelve major scales and twelve minor scales, which took him about five minutes to get through-then spoke about how he conceptually approached the cello’s fingerboard as though it were a piano keyboard turned on its end. He kept all five of his fingers much straighter than most cellists do.

[@devyysk]

can you go into his perspective of a "keyboard turned on its end"?

[@mylesjordan9970]

@ Yes; he used the piano keyboard as an illustration of problems with cello pedagogy. Pianists’ hand positions normally are exponentially freer, more fluid, stronger and better balanced than cellists playing in thumb position, even though the hand positions are quite similar. He pointed out that the differences are chiefly in the straighter angle of the hand, straighter fingers and looser wrists than cellists normally use. He advocated a visual analogy of the piano keyboard turned on the same angle as a cello fingerboard, with the pianist’s hand position strictly maintained in relation to the new angle. This was his ideal thumb position at the cello.

[@devyysk]

@@mylesjordan9970 oh wow!!! that is quite genius. thank you for taking the time to explain. you taught me something new!

[@JCosme1967]

What year? My teacher was very good friends with him. I visited in 1989.... such a nice, joyful man.

[@mylesjordan9970]

@@JCosme1967 He was in Philadelphia during the summer of possibly 1989 (?) to play the Schumann Concerto with the Philadelphia Orchestra at the Mann Music Center. I remember he played a Guarneri cello for that concert and I met with him at his hotel, almost adjacent to the Curtis Institute, for three hours.

[@minasdsn]

As an organist player in my youth, I never worked with scales. Now I’m an adult cello learner and I can understand now the point of it, it is particularly useful with this kind of instrument. I like working on rightness, sound, tone, bow control with scales. And the way Tortelier links it to composers and love is really beautiful and so true. Such a charismatic person he was.❤

[@wood-side-story]

This is gold. 🌟✨ I started the cello about 1.5 year ago and my then-teacher never put any kind of attention on scales. Only recently I started to work diligently on scales... This alone has improved so much my intonation, bowing, articulation and musicality ❤ I wish I heard this profound teaching earlier 🙌🎶

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

Agree with you 2000 %!

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

What do you think? What are your thoughts about this? ✅

[@yngveskarphedinssons]

Paul Tortelier entered my soul as child through my dad record collection and listening to his quartet cellist l only knew him as Andrew talk about Paul Tortelier as his inspiration, that now at 50 years old l play the cello and understand more these days about approaching the instrument. My father a violinists always says to me learn scales and to my daughter to who plays violin. дякую тату за мудру пораду

[@ChrisC-Pi]

I love that... what a teacher, that's one of the reasons I decided to learn the cello is because it is a micro tonal instrument and it's possible to play any cultures scale tunings on it, the only problem is, any teacher I have ends up always trying to correct me so that I play western pitch for scales or when I explore it in compositions, it's hard to make a western trained ear hear it differently, I love the way he expressed that and I wish more musicians and teachers brought that in to western music teaching, great work on putting this video together and trying to spread this message 👍

[@CanadianDivergent]

I love his dry sense of humour when he played the Elgar /India Scale passage with the pianist!

[@wood-side-story]

Brilliant 🙏🙏🙏 please share more of these gems ❤❤❤

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

It’s really genius! It completely changed my point of views about scales! I will see if I can find more of these gems!

[@deisebarcellos]

Adorei a lição de hoje! Os dois professores excelentes!!!

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

Pois é! O Hans Mannes vem desse tipo de escola. E eu pegei disso 😃

[@MsCellobass]

My cello hero❤

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

Yup! He is the master! 🙌🏻

[@AtTheEnd1000]

It hard to start with scales, but when I start, I enjoy it! With paino & cello!

[@emma_freerider]

Brilliant

[@remypa]

Thank you Ilia! ❤

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

You are welcome! Interesting philosophy, right?

[@evawei2758]

Замечательный мастер-класс, большое спасибо!

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

Не за что!

[@Carlos-qz7ul]

A musician who wouldn't be a passionate person, what kind of music could her or he give us? Thanks for this valuable piece of world knowledge 🙏

[@mariaparra1862]

Comme tout ce que vous montrez est intéressant ! tu es génial

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

Pues Macilia: Paul Tortelier es Paul Tortelier 😃 Uno de los mas grandes en la historia!

[@MEECHARON]

Gracias querido

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

De nada!

[@TheSoundConnoisseur]

Wow

[@MrVolosauro]

Good Morning MAESTRO, I'd like to know your opinion about the different tuning at 432 or 440 Hz. Thank You

[@josephhapp9]

Tuning of scales is different from setting of the Pitch for Concert A.

[@MrVolosauro]

@@josephhapp9 Thank You for the answer

[@TheBereangirl]

I think...when you read you being with ABC, when you sing you begin with Doe Rey Me. Sorry, I couldn't resist.😏🤷🏻‍♀️😂 The point being, foundations are meant to be built upon, if you have a good and strong foundation, then your building will be good and strong as well, provided that you have embraced the necessity of the discipline that is required in setting the good foundation and then carry it throughout the entire build. This was amazing. I'm going to commit to more time and care to my scales.♥️

[@fishmut]

Yes but I think you missed some of the importance with the scales ,it’s not just building on a good foundation , he left many clues of how scales have variety from the root of country’s that the music comes from you may hear using scales such as India as you could hear very clearly the difference the way scales are used in music , I love that scales are the food of music and music is the food of love , so true however so many who play music today do not think like this wise man who has spoken and shared beautiful wisdom with scales and given real logic thinking opening our minds on importance of scales , I loved it.

[@HrHTeam]

Is there a more specific name for the Indian scale?

[@lio-3702]

I think it is not about genius, all real musicians think like this, it's just the essence of the music, all emotionals musicians think and see like this the music and the whole life

[@hyungwonyun8833]

Ace 👍

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

It’s really fantastic stuff! See you tomorrow Won!

[@emresoylu]

So, do you guys still think that comparative musicology solves everything:)

[@ericoschmitt]

I disagree with his logic, but I loved the idea of one day simply play different notes in a moment like that, with an orchestra, without having done it during the rehearsal. Just to see the reactions.

[@alexeykulikov2739]

Really…

[@Adrian_AdamViolonDiGerma-tm3nq]

Spine of cello playing. Without that, we'll only able to play atonally, abcdefg -aa1b1...

[@williamclark9973]

kind of creepy.

[@IliaLaporevcellist]

lol, maybe you are right! But he was a grand master 🎻

[@normanzurich2781]

Il ne fait aucun effort pour l’accent. C’est un cliché du français qui parle anglais 🥱🥱🥱