The Chainsaw-Built, 15’ Sky Deck is Finished! Pt2 #32

[@saltyshellback]

I was chainsawing some pallets to burn today and thought about your videos 😄 Have you considered putting in a solar panel to charge your batteries? I just installed a cheap 100w solar panel kit on my shed and it keeps 2 car batteries charged enough to charge my drill batteries and run some DC motion sensor flood lights. May be enough to keep your tool batteries and electronic equipment charged.

[@survivingringworm2202]

I've considered it but with solid tree cover (and Michigan weather,) they wouldn't get much sun. Also, just about everything nice is out of my budget if I want to keep living out here going forward. But several people have asked if I had a Patreon account so I finally set one up. If anything comes in from that, I might just have to give a panel a try anyway.

[@saltyshellback]

@@survivingringworm2202 Good deal! I'll go check out your patreon page. Hopefully you can generate enough to get a panel and some more cricket bars 😋

[@survivingringworm2202]

Crickets! (That means “thank you!” in dirty, Michigan woodsman speak.)

[@tonynulty2451]

@@saltyshellback 🥺🥺u

[@saltyshellback]

@@tonynulty2451 ???

[@cramsmith9677]

says he's gunna "throw up" a few deck boards... then proceeds to finely butt each long board together and make them tighter then a ships bottom. impressive. I'm glad you didn't "step anywhere that will kill you." be safe.

[@robertvezina3669]

With the Skill, Ingenuity and Artistry You continue to display, it's no wonder You have the monopoly on carpentry contracts in all of Ring Worm!

[@survivingringworm2202]

The requests for my services just keep rolling in. I must be doing something right?

[@sixupsprite5501]

What this channel is, is what any kid who ever built tree house dreamed of doing. Just building cool stuff in the woods.

[@osprey1964able]

Not for nothing Ryan, as an older craftsman myself, your channel is very inspiring. I think your helping more folks than you know. Should be more teachers like you in this world

[@survivingringworm2202]

I think you are too kind. I really don't feel I have much of anything to teach since I am truly making it all up as I go and was never a builder/craftsman. But if it helps people to realize that it's possible to have un-selfconscious fun in the woods, great!

[@martabotelho1970]

🏠😱😱😱

[@rodmeisterful]

You’re a madman! Completely bonkers.

[@survivingringworm2202]

THAT I appreciate!

[@jeffwells641]

"It's just really important not to step somewhere that will kill you." Bruh. That's an understatement if I've ever heard one.

[@joelonderee2872]

This video series (sky Deck) is the best I have seen on KZbin this year!

[@arkylady]

You have the best personality for this. Love your sense of humor. I've learned a lot watching you build stuff, thank you for sharing!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Thank you!

[@Downeastwaves]

Ships ladder with landing halfway up. A zip line for fun! Pole too!! Have a great and safe week making cool stuff to share with us.

[@sydneyevans2637]

Downeastwaves, Zipline! YEAH!!!

[@robertvezina3669]

A Good portion of the Magic of Your Channel is the Recognition from my Inner Child that Your Inner Child is Very Much Alive and Joyfully Surfing The Flow in Ring Worm Michigan. Sometimes at my off grid Forest cabin, an hour North of Lake Ontario, between one fun activity and the next, I ponder, "Wonder what's going on in Ring Worm right now?" Enjoy Each Moment Brother.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Thanks Robert! I am a huge proponent of "play" for any age. And it's so much easier to do when you aren't self conscious because someone might be watching. Of course, after the fact via KZbin is different. Hope you are finding time to do something similar at your place.

[@leannkennedy6568]

With no previous experience, I built a 15x30 barn out of heavy duty pallets and railroad ties. Like you, I just winged it. It withstood 70 plus mile an hour winds and I was super proud of the accomplishment. Enjoying watching all you do.

[@D5341-m8x]

Love to watch your creative problem solving in action. Watching these vids and your builds is a great escape from “normal” city dweller existence. Keep it up!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Sounds like you need a trip into the woods!

[@SerenityOffGridHomesteadMaine]

OH MY GOODNESS! This project had me on edge the whole time!!!! You’re so crazy!!! 😂 Excellent polebarn for homesteader applications… now… to figure out how to get my fam to allow me up in the trees! 😂 Oh well, let them be surprised! ~Stephanie

[@jusike633]

Enjoyed your work, Stars out, Resting, Very Nice .

[@raymondsmith4808]

Have watched Surviving Ringworm for awhile and I am still amazed at the ability to make things work by just putting it together. This makes a person think that most things can be done by a laymen. Thank You for showing this way of building.

[@peggygarcia765]

I have watch this guy from day one he started the show.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Thanks Raymond! That is in fact my belief. I mean, if I was trying to build an Iphone from scratch, there is a pretty solid chance that it simply wouldn't work when it was done. But a deck? Or a deer blind? How could anyone attempt these things and not end up with something that would serve the purpose? 'Course, its a lot easier to try these things when nobody is looking over your shoulder telling you that you aren't doing it the "right way."

[@grandmasstories3418]

Right on! Old Noah never went to engineering college and built a "transatlantic" - read the story in the Bible, if you like. The engineers of the Titanic did go to engineering college....

[@douggibson9084]

Great deck Ryan fire pole and zipline to get down. Sky walk ramp to connect the trees to the star deck. Have fun!!!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Just tryin' to figure the correct rise/run for the zipline...

[@jakeriff95]

"Accidental Greatness" is such a mood haha. Such a cool project!!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Great name for a band too!

[@wookiejesusofnazarethkashy1940]

Glad you posted. I was in the mood to catch a little Ringworm today.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Ringworm does a body good!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Good to get a little ringworm in yer soul every now and then.

[@steved2966]

I'm watching you cut all that lumber up top and I feel the compulsion to start singing "Defying Gravity!"

[@sixtoplacencia3576]

Hey Ryan,when the camera tripod tipped over on the deck I grabbed onto the chair I was sitting in. I thought I was falling off the deck. Then when you asked if I was dead I laughed out loud. Great videp !

[@Downeastwaves]

Hey Ryan! How about a poop deck off the side? Upgraded from the poop decks of ships of bygone days--a bit!! Like a composting collection setup...oh have fun what ever you do.

[@FritchFritch]

Oh, man…hilarious. But maybe just start with a pee funnel. Hate to have to shimmy down in the dark to take a pee so as not worry about careening overboard.

[@downunda107]

A great description and showing of aligning floor boards Ryan. ThankYou

[@frankkirby5763]

You must be a engineer. You know what you are doing. Very inspiring channel.

[@metroplexchl]

Dear God. The helmet cam at 15' + wine = No Bueno Por Caca. Love the deck!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Oh man. Definitely not a good combo. Did you loose your lunch?

[@FunfindersX]

I completely enjoy your humor and your projects Cheers

[@Halfapint01]

Found your channel by chance. I've watched about a dozen now and I absolutely dig the way you build. It's exactly how I do everything, just kinda eyeball and go. Have an idea in your head and if things dont go to plan, well..... character! I'm now subbed and can't wait for the next vids! Keep up the great work and the awesome commentary!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Thanks! It's nice to hear from someone else that understands the "style." How can you ever be disappointed if you had no idea what you were undertaking in the first place?

[@leiflundquist468]

I realy like your kreativity and attitud! 😁👍

[@scorpiofl1]

I really felt the sawdust you threw in my eye! Mote vids please. You are one of the funniest guys on you tube.

[@peggygarcia765]

I watched this video twice & just loved it. I would just love to get some land & do what U are doing. U seemed like a real fun guy & U can see U really enjoy doing this. I hate to see U out their sometimes alone & working on some of these things--like this one. I just love it when U look at the camera & talk to your fans. U be very careful & I'll keep watching. God Bless...Phoenix

[@survivingringworm2202]

Thank you Peggy! It's so nice to hear that people really enjoy watching. It's really fun but a pain in the backside to make these videos out here without power or internet. Comments like yours make it worth it!

[@peggygarcia765]

@@survivingringworm2202 I know but if anyone can do things it's U. U will find a way to get electric or solar or something that will help U. Watching U put that lumber up their so hi I was a little afraid U might fall. Please be careful. Take care of yourself. Bless always.. Phoenix

[@fricstix7072]

Really great video. Great idea to use a saw inbetween two boards to get them to line up.

[@Sailorman1976]

Dude, go for the spiral stairs! I truly wasn't kidding. Great build.

[@robertdillon9989]

Screws can shear much easier than nails under pressure, consider a few on the floor joists

[@tonychin5065]

Wow. You worked so dangerously.

[@ezmac622]

I really enjoy your sense of humor...great video!

[@mrbuttonsoffgridadventure4311]

Ringworm, keeping it weird since 2020. You really should make and sell t shirts that say "I survived ringworm". I'd buy one! And wear it proudly.

[@KelJayP]

Wear it if you don't mind people stepping back 10 feet away from you lol

[@davidbales7145]

Omg yes I would too or how about Chainsaw + Sweat = Ringworm or "I have O.C.D then underneath Offensive Chainsawing Disorder. lol

[@survivingringworm2202]

Can't believe I read your comments immediately after designing a couple tee shirts for myself. One has a chainsaw on it and says "I'd trade my wife and kids for Ringworm." Another says "Ringworm is the best thing I've got going right now." Have several other designs that I might throw together too. Want me to make them available?

[@davidbales7145]

@@survivingringworm2202 yes please. Test the waters and make a poll and see who would be interested in the possibilities. Maybe there are two of us that want them or maybe there is a lot more don't know but with your channel growing as it is maybe it's another way for you to generate some fun money for you..

[@DCellProductions]

@@survivingringworm2202 I'd but one - Plenty of "Ringwormerisms" in your videos A lifestyle and a philosophy

[@mr.mojorisen2076]

Very fun stuff !!! A rocking chair a must

[@peteslostinthewoods2472]

Spec-Tac-U-lar Mr. Worm. One day minstrels will sing songs of you and your adventures.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Oooooh. I can't wait to hear their tunes! Will said minstrels be female? I'd like that.

[@peteslostinthewoods2472]

@@survivingringworm2202 I'm sure there are some Michigan gals around there somewhere..... but.... can they run a chainsaw?!? Keep up the great work Ryan. Going to check out your Patreon page, cant have you running outta gas.

[@matthewanderson6767]

Hindsight is 20/20. If a guy would have left the 4 trees about 3 feet higher and notched the sides for the floor you would have supports on 4 corners for a railing of some type.

[@Downeastwaves]

Next one! He's creative and fun to watch!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Railing? What's that?

[@haydnjenkins7607]

1st time I needed to close my eyes your a bit high, wow respect.

[@ownerofthisaccount]

The bestest. funniest. funist, yt channel! Deserves 10 million+.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Imagine the shiny bolts and nails I could buy with that many views!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Let the chainsaw gas money roll in!

[@christophergalemore1644]

I think that was the best video yet! Impressive work.

[@josephgeorgeejr7039]

Such a great idea on how you manage do that without another person, freaking brilliant, or the child of necessity,

[@rxpusher131]

I always laugh watching your videos. Thank you for sharing!

[@erichawes304]

LOL...always remember the ladder🤣 Im glad you took the time to point out how different 15' can make... getting pushed around by the wind makes you feel just a bit closer to it all😎

[@scottmyers226]

You do have skills Ryan. That is awesome.

[@dm.2023]

Joist hangers would be a good idea for added strength, security and peace of mind when walking around up there.

[@mickyboughner1232]

Dude! Yur rockin the solo highrise platform fabrication! SO MUCH FUN TO WATCH!

[@mickyboughner1232]

And heck yes on the fireman's pole!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Now I might start calling it "the highrise" instead of the sky deck. Think I like that better. Seems classier somehow.

[@Downeastwaves]

No ringworm on arms! That's a good thing and bit of sun on them is a good thing too.

[@GrowingLittleCountryhomestead]

Yeah man safety.....I wouldn’t know what I would do if I don’t get my case of ringworm next week. Just make sure you up load before you fall off 😂

[@survivingringworm2202]

I’d like to tell you that I have a backlog of 6 or 8 months of videos waiting to be released...

[@Downeastwaves]

Oops! Not dead! Gram used to knit us mittens with a long chain knit to hold them together over our shoulders. Worked great! Your gloves would not fall to ground. Especially since you have a snap tool and that webbing.

[@Downeastwaves]

Today was laying free brick day! We are far from done but pooped out for sure. Your deck looks so nice!

[@GOWAYUPNORTH]

I think that “Uncut Pizza” should do there first concert from “Mosquito Tower”

[@samanthabeal2000]

Always inspiring! The heights you go to, lol. Love it! Thanks

[@rjh6380]

There is a way to do a spiral step system around one of your tree bases, then a fire pole for exiting. Very cool.

[@sdbigguy]

Another outstanding video. The sky-deck is incredible. This is coming from someone who’s mask fogged up his glasses and fell down a set of concrete steps and broke his kneecap. I would have fallen multiple times during this construction but I would have loved every minute of it. The stars do look great. I just figured out that the deck reminds me of a tree house plan in popular mechanics when I was a kid. They only used three trees so more of a triangular deck. I know I put the idea of spiral stairs (and I would love that) but really looking forward to what comes next. I also want to see if mosquitos don’t fly that high. Thank you for sharing and Provolone does rock in the cheese world.

[@FritchFritch]

Holy crap…knee caps, mosquitos, and cheese…some of the most and least important items in the world. Good funnies!.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Broken knee cap sounds horrible! When I go to the doctor and they ask my pain from one to ten, I think of ten as the time I ran my knee cap on the blade of a snow cat. The pain was so bad, it took me to the ground and sucked the breath out of me. Finally had surgery on it the year before coming out here (and it is still the reason that you will never see me running in a video.) Man, I hope you recovered alright!

[@sdbigguy]

@@survivingringworm2202 I am in the middle of recovery. The worst and best thing about it is that I retired at the end of 2021. Now I don’t have to miss any work but I have all this free time with not being able to do much but watch lots of GREAT KZbin content. I still think the spiral staircase is a great idea but you have got enough trees there that you can build multiple mini platforms and work your way up to the sky deck with a few stairs between each platform. Maybe a swinging bridge or two. Thank you for the follow up.

[@survivingringworm2202]

It is definitely going to need a fun way to get up eventually. Making a log ladder right now just for immediate access that isn’t that shakey aluminum extension type. My bro wouldn’t even go up it the other day. And it’s HIS ladder!. But I’ve also decided to build a slide to get down instead of the fireman’s pole. So many options. Hope you heal up alright! I’ve been through a lot of surgeries in recent years- non of them fun- but it made getting out and doing stuff all the more enjoyable when i was eventually able to do it.

[@sdbigguy]

@@survivingringworm2202 A zip line, a dumb waiter and a tie down hook (in case you walk in your sleep up there. Doc says no surgery and I can get out and walk but be careful. Sounds good to me.

[@josephbreckenridge2966]

you are an amazingly skillful and creative maker. still, when you are 15 ft off the ground, working, i worry a little. stay safe. we need you.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Ha! Well, I'm glad that came across in the video because it made ME worry a little too. Clearly not so much that I wasn't going to build it, but not a place you'd want to misstep...

[@marylott3076]

Love it! Awesome job Ryan. Always enjoy seeing your videos! On to the next venture........

[@fiendeng]

MULTI LEVEL staircase to other trees nearby ! 😁👍 Fire Pole running down the middle Sick build so far

[@grandmasstories3418]

👏👏 Super cool platform! Good job! Too bad you forgot the good sleeping bag (I might need a transparent tent too 🙂). Seeing this, I wish I had the strength and means to do the same...I'd love that!... only maybe in a slightly less freezing region than yours, like, maybe in central Portugal, where land is dirt cheap at the moment and the temps are minimum -7 C. The only problem there is the extreme heat in the Summer and the danger of fires but if you've got some reserves and create a good prevention system when you move "in" , it's almost perfect.... There are lots of creeks, river beaches, wells, ponds and lakes to refresh in though, if you don't depend only on muscle force to do the summer harvest for you, so you actually get to have some leisure time...

[@mrbeefy9947]

Ring worm 🐛 just what I needed to day

[@survivingringworm2202]

Bet ya never thought you’d be saying that!

[@shmonsterman1356]

Nice to see the deck floor finished .

[@vickistewart1924]

Your like the best educator out there thank you!!

[@buildingstore8714]

Wow amazing project ,good idea to do and work so fast also perfect .

[@Downeastwaves]

Yes amazing! Excellent job. Great angles and will keep nice views. THANK YOU!

[@fredcarter7003]

The sky deck is a touch to your on going build

[@RidgeRunner4X4]

Reminds me of the deer tree stand we built when I was a kid... We did a triangle design between 3 trees, and our lumber was only 2x6 in most supports...

[@roostercogburn809]

I feel like I'm riding around on your shoulders... Cool vid.

[@TheUserid82]

Have you looked into a rain roof to collect drinking water for the warm months? A nice large dry storage area under it would make a perfect place for storing the misc wood you cut along with space for larger items to avoid needing to tarp them. Some IBC totes with the tanks painted to reduce algae growth inside should let you get all the water you need for drinking, cooking, bathing and cleaning without needing to look at the swamp water till the temp is freezing and you want to drain the system for over winter protection.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Smart! That's actually what I use for water out here- IBC totes. Think there was an earlier video of making a water tower of sorts out of a couple of them.

[@tomhogue3921]

Great work

[@MrPermanne]

Your night pics are insane , you better post more of them 👍🏻👍🏻

[@survivingringworm2202]

You got it! Just need to trim a few trees and find a clear night without a moon. Do you have a moon in Sweden?

[@rebuilditdad5787]

all the tasty holes in swiss are gathered up and squeezed together to make prevalone cheese. i think a spiral stairs around the small tree next to that one corner. also you could board up the sides for more storage ? have fun

[@jjudy5869]

Spiral staircase and a fire pole get my vote. Need a waterproof box up there, so you can store the bedding you need for an impromptu overnight-er.

[@survivingringworm2202]

For sure. Def need some sort of cedar chest for a blanket and some bug spray and a machete. Just because.

[@attilaelekes5534]

Accidental greatness! Good one.

[@tyronsdragonden3392]

you should put some cross brace in between the deck trees to help keep the deck from moving too much with the wind. it could cause your deck to break up if you have too much movement.

[@tyronsdragonden3392]

Try some pepperJack cheese. It is very mild in heat and has a very goog flavor too it. Also try too use some none barked tree branchs too make a railing all around the deck.

[@fricstix7072]

A good place to work in the rain is below or you could make another floor midway up and have room below and a milling area below. You could also use the extra 3 feet of wood for steps. If you did have spiral stair case, it could go around one tree and open on the outside of the floor you built. Just plan for both floors landings and exits if you do. A straight staircase would make bring up lumber easier or you could have a pulley or two on a tree out to the side, above your floor level. You could also have a roof skirting around your floor for more room below.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Man, where do you all get such good ideas? I’m putting a ladder together now so that I can easily get to the top. Likely going to build a giant slide THEN stairs. And maybe another level.

[@ejsocci2630]

So awesome work, love the way you did it.

[@elizabethannwest646]

I love the sound of the chainsaw. Your a hard working guy. Love your vids.

[@survivingringworm2202]

It’s a beautiful instrument!

[@johnhighstreet5199]

What great fun, as someone who does this (variation on a theme) for a living, it is quite enjoyable. My only wish is that you would use a sealer on all the end grain to help longevity- I know you say you don't care if it lasts, but gosh darn it, everyone else does. Thanks!

[@survivingringworm2202]

I totally hear ya. I actually wouldn't mind weather proofing the whole deck since the wood is so pretty but just don't have the $ to pay for "unnecessary" stuff like that. Not that anything I make is necessary.

[@johnhighstreet5199]

State of well-being is very necessary.

[@mosmatakanaislandtours344]

My knees were knocking when you butted the flooring ! Reminds me when I built big shed, I first slapped together a mezzanine floor about half way up to the top, so I had a platform to stand on to complete the roof, shed with 6x20 foot poles, you’re balance and skill is amazing ⛩ courageous as🔭 bring the telescope as well 😷 don’t forget to vaccinate all your household,stay alert 😜

[@tanyajenkins919]

Nice Job Ryan I enjoy the crazy cool of it all thanks for sharing . Look forward to the next one . 😎

[@EdgarPerez-yv7et]

You do great work it’s amazing 🤩

[@briantruelove9647]

"Its just so important not to step anywhere that will kill you"😂😂😂 another fine $1.5 million dollar project in a modern day national wood shortage. Outstanding work sir!

[@survivingringworm2202]

If you have a chainsaw and a neighbor with trees, there is never a wood shortage!

[@briantruelove9647]

@@survivingringworm2202 agreed! I've been parlaying some downed cherry logs into knife scales and fruit bowls. Haven't milled any boards yet. just living vicariously through you down here in GA. stay safe brotha.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Sweet! Would love to have some cherry to play with. Cedar is great for building structures in the out of doors but isn’t much for whittlin’.

[@grator]

What if you left the trees longer so that they would also serve as corners for your walls? You could have cut notches where the floor connects to the trees and still have corner supports up

[@ginzej2]

One of my favorite vids so far! I have all the same Ryobi tools down to the old circular saw... Cool to see them being used for this fun project!

[@survivingringworm2202]

Can't really beat Ryobi, right? Everything has nay-sayers these days, but even those old blue tools have never let me down. I've probably got over 20 of their tools- some almost 20 years old- and not one has ever stopped working.

[@elijahowens8507]

Great problem solving skills

[@jimanonymous113]

If you're not gonna put on a railing, perhaps extending the floor to create a 3' perimeter of large opening lattice. People won't walk on the lattice but it will catch people who accidentally step off the solid floor.

[@robertvezina3669]

Balancing on top of Your helmet freaked me out that high up! Went easier after a couple of beers.

[@survivingringworm2202]

Haha. Got a good chuckle out of that one. Maybe I should have a disclaimer/recommendation before every video? Like, "Prepare yourself. The Ringworm Viewing Society has designated this a 2B (or 6B) video."

[@NaturzFury]

Ryan - you are just TOO AWESOME for your YT!! Love this video even tho, as you began putting the floor down, it made me rather dizzy and nauseous LOL. You do such kewl work. I'd love to come out and spend time in this land of "Bizzare Buildings " Surviving Ringworms B & B... love it!! (would love to see you daily... even if it's just a 15 min. clip letting us know what is coming up for the long vid.) Be safe - looking forward to the next video!!!!

[@survivingringworm2202]

To be fair, in real life it makes a guy dizzy too! Especially at first when there are only loose planks to stand on. I probably looked like I was walking barefoot over Legos for the first hour or so. Ringworm B&B... Maybe a franchise?

[@bobspring6723]

Ryan, just thought of something. Perhaps when your pondering, what 2 due next, hot rock sauna!🤣🤙

[@survivingringworm2202]

For sure! I do hope to get to building a sauna sometime this year. Even a propane one so I'd actually use it regularly. Just have to build a tool room, outdoor kitchen, real shower roof and a roof over my tent deck first.

[@K4K96]

Cool sky deck at that height I'd fashion a zip line.

[@orangewoods]

Just think what that would cost with today’s lumber prices. Awesome build Ryan.

[@survivingringworm2202]

I wonder! Someone mentioned that the "deer castle" I built last fall would have cost thousands in materials. Crazy.

[@richardsmith6738]

Excellent job pal.Have you thought of a zip wire so you can get down quickly ? And remember " all you need for fun is a chainsaw and a chalk line".Me 2021.....you can have that one lol

[@survivingringworm2202]

You are a man of much wisdom. I'm actually making myself some Ringworm tee shirts with funny sayings and YT comments. I might have to use that one.

[@sun1234567890]

You should building railing for the sky deck. And make a camping video afterword.

[@24acresofparadise]

Man I wish I had good wood like that on my land.

[@survivingringworm2202]

It really is fantastic to have never ending lumber. Especially when the prices are so high!

[@24acresofparadise]

@@survivingringworm2202 No kidding! I just spent $600 on 12 10ft x 8” posts.

[@ckyrooster]

I'm not always amazing, But when I do, It's " Amazing, Grace ".

[@jusike633]

Sitting here holding this chair down. The air on high, dont want to loose it. : )

[@rickallen8126]

You are like my dad he did stuff like this alone .....he is 81 and living off grid still

[@GrouseHiker]

I wish I was there helping... Please keep an eye on that beam splice. Mid-span splices in beams are very difficult to do correctly. The forces on the fasteners is extremely high... Keep at it!