Doesnt explain why it was more horrific than people realise there is nothing new in this post
@jack002tuber5 ай бұрын
The title is 100% clickbait
@numbersix89195 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm gone.
@lu-uf8zj5 ай бұрын
The arrogant negligence of administrators to overrule the concerns of the engineers is what makes it worse as it shows incompetence and willful ignorance at the top puts innocent lives at risk.
@numbersix89195 ай бұрын
@lu-uf8zj It was Reagan. The flight had been hyped to the sky, and he wouldn't tolerate a third scrub.
@donaldcampbell92195 ай бұрын
The space shuttle blew up the crew was not killed. They were blew out in a protective titanium shielded box that protected the crew and all of the crew turned on their emergency oxygen tanks and they were killed when they hit the water going about 250 miles an hour, and there’s other things online that explain this much better than I can
@flownspacestuff4me5 ай бұрын
One of the worst written & poorly researched commentaries about the space program and in particular the Challenger disaster. Why would anyone waste their time creating this bullshit, to anyone who's familiar with what happened, this is such rambling nonsense. First of all, there had been 9 "O" ring failures and burn throughs of the SRB joints previous to the Challenger explosion, but luckily they had been in non-critical areas. Thaikol engineers knew of the "O" ring failures in temperatures ranging from 54 degree F to 71 degrees F, Thaikol redesigned the "O" rings & joints to eliminate the failures, but NASA wanted to use up the assembled SRB's to save money. NASA flight directors were told of Thiakol engineers concerns launching in cold weather, NASA told Thiakol it was their decision and asked about their concerns. Thiakol management told their engineers to "their management hats on" and clear the SRB's for flight. The real problem I have is that both NASA and Thiakol absolutely knew of the 9 previous "O" ring failures, but NASA kept asking for hard data and proof as a reason to delay the launch. In later interviews, Roger B from Thiakol thought the SRB would explode at ignition and when it didn't, he said "we dodged another bullet", obviously that changed at the 73 second mark when the SRB strut failed and impacted the MET. The failures in NASA & Thiakol's management cultures was horrific and ended up killing 2 Shuttle crews.
@jhonditch42695 ай бұрын
most of these videos are just as poorly made
@Lonezewolf5 ай бұрын
While I do see what you're saying we also have to consider that history does get shifted around a lot, so I wouldn't say its a terrible video. Perhaps, in the future they may correct their misinformation, which some channel have. I would say, if you did feel they weren't doing what you feel they should do. You could also do the research, video work, and commentary too.
@nasacollector36765 ай бұрын
I did my research, which is why I know how crappy this video is but i don't have time to do a video. @Lonezewolflonewolf
@jhonditch42695 ай бұрын
@@Lonezewolf this IS the future it's messed up
@larrybremer49305 ай бұрын
Challenger and Columbia were both lost because NASA accepted deviations when they did not result in an accident so those events became the "new normal" for acceptable deviation until the day that the deviations caught up with them. Exactly the same condition that caused the B-17 crash at the airshow recently. This is why a deviation in flight safety should never be acceptable just because you got away with it before. When you get away with a deviation it does not mean your standards were too stringent, it just means you got lucky once and you cannot rely on luck to keep saving your bacon. Spaceflight is already hazardous enough without accepting additional risks because you were lucky before.
@john-ug7nc5 ай бұрын
Soon as I saw the word horrific in the title I knew it was going to be BS. But first I read the comments and they confirmed my initial thoughts. Don't waste your time watching this crap.
@blackholeentry34895 ай бұрын
I learned years ago.....prior to watching ANY video, I scan ahead and check out the comment section first. Often saves a lot of time watching a poorly assembled video....just as I did this one! BHE
@kyfho095 ай бұрын
There's got to be a way to stop KZbin from spreading all kinds of mental poison also known as BS.
@ZilogBob3 ай бұрын
Thank you. I won't waste my time either.
@Justin.Martyr2 ай бұрын
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@blackholeentry34892 ай бұрын
@@Justin.Martyr It is a WELL known fact....BOTH major parties in this country are so screwed up, if EITHER were left in long term, it would result in the total ruination of this country. So, for right now, AND the foreseeable future, the best policy is to vote one party in, give them a term or two, then give the bums the boot and elect the other party. That way, just like a drunken driver going down the highway, lurching from shoulder to shoulder, at least were in the middle part of the time! BHE
@woodyhogin21445 ай бұрын
Astronauts White, Chaffee & Grissom lost their lives preparing for Apollo 1. So, No. The Challenger mission was not the 1st "...loss of life during a NASA mission."
@marnipratama68925 ай бұрын
They do not count as it happened during a test. Yes, I know, it is nitpicking.
@MRCAGR15 ай бұрын
I think Apollo 1 was never meant to be launched, it was a ground test only.
@p0mm3srud15 ай бұрын
@@MRCAGR1 it was meant to fly some time in 1967 (if i remember correctly) but during some early test there was an electrical issue which sparked the pure oxygen environment inside the capsule while astronauts where inside.
@jasonparis56355 ай бұрын
You forgot the Columbia
@dean980525 ай бұрын
@@jasonparis5635 That happened way later
@environmentaldataexchange39065 ай бұрын
It must be repeated: Doesnt explain why it was more horrific than people realise. There is nothing new in this post.
@DrMackSplackem5 ай бұрын
And much of what is included is misleading and/or poorly worded.
@environmentaldataexchange39065 ай бұрын
@@DrMackSplackem Plus, may I add, the video producer is a douche.
@Justin.Martyr2 ай бұрын
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@environmentaldataexchange39062 ай бұрын
@@Justin.Martyr Yes, my Mistress!
@grahamtaylor22825 ай бұрын
The weather was too cold, and outside of the approved range. Gross negligence on the part of the launch control.
@lawrencefields78745 ай бұрын
Wasn't launch control. It was the heads at NASA that ignored the Morton-Thiokol engineer's warnings. Morton-Thiokol BEGGED the NASA headshed to delay the launch...they refused. Launch Control, which is ONE department within that mechanism had ZERO visibility on Morton-Thiokol's concern's and recommendation's. This CRIME rests SQUARELY on NASA leadership. THEY REFUSED TO LISTEN to M-T.
@leomarkaable15 ай бұрын
I blame Reagan. He wanted a hurried launch on a cold day.
@mrnosaj715 ай бұрын
@@leomarkaable1 Freezing in Florida, didn't know that happened until this tragedy.
@Dartman64 ай бұрын
It wasn't launch control's decision, it was NASA management putting pressure on Morton Thiokol to approve the SRBs to operate at significantly lower temperatures than they were tested for. The blame is squarely on NASA management's shoulders.
@kentbetts5 ай бұрын
The video omits an important element of the Challenger story. When the solid rocket boosters were being assembled it was found that the round segments of the casing had been distorted during the water impact and were not longer perfectly circular. The segments did not fit well together and had to more or less be forced into position to complete the assembly work. I think this was, in conjunction with the low temperatures, to be the cause of the malfunction.
@takashitamagawa58815 ай бұрын
In this regard it's worth noting that for the SLS, NASA has discarded the notion of trying to recover and reuse the SRBs. Now everything is going to be thrown away after one use - SRBs and main engines in addition to the core stage fuel tanks, sufficient proof that the reusability ideas for the Space Shuttle did not work out as theorized.
@stuartbear9224 ай бұрын
Thank you for your post. I've never heard this before and it makes perfect sense why the o rings leaked or they didn't seat properly.
@3dartistguy4 ай бұрын
@@takashitamagawa5881I’m wondering why they didn’t build the solid rocket boosters in one piece instead of in sections
@takashitamagawa58814 ай бұрын
@@3dartistguy From what I understand, they had to be built in sections in order to be transported via rail from Morton Thiokol in Utah to their launching site. They couldn't go in one piece vertically, and transporting the boosters horizontally led to mechanical problems. Before the Space Shuttle no solid rocket motors were ever used on a launch vehicle rated to carry humans.
@3dartistguy4 ай бұрын
@@takashitamagawa5881 well it was a very poor design then. too bad the space shuttle didnt take off like a plane, achieve orbit, and than actually land like a plane as originally envisioned. I rememer at the time, my science teacher wasnt interested in the teacher in space program because he must have known about the poor design of the solid rocket boosters.
@tiaelizabetharia64414 ай бұрын
I’ll never forget that tragedy. I was watching at home with my family. We were all so excited counting down and everything. Then ended up in shock about what we were seeing. Crying and screaming. I was only 6 years old.
@70dodgedemon2 ай бұрын
i was 18 years old remember it all that day!
@lulumoon69425 ай бұрын
For those of us who grew up in the area, whose families worked at the Cape, and watched every launch live, this tragedy with the highly promoted teacher on board was next level... And even we were shocked they launched in such weather! RIP Astronauts 🙏🕊️
@scottenichols4 ай бұрын
I watched it live in school. The teacher instinctively turned the TV off and the principal got on the intercom and asked all the teachers to turn it back on. So much confusion.
@RunTwoWin5 ай бұрын
I was one of those school kids who watch this live. At about 13 years old I had no clue as to the seriousness of what I was looking at but it's hard now not feel sick and want to cry every time I see something about it
@dx14505 ай бұрын
I was in high school. I heard about it when I walked into algebra class, but I didn't believe it at first when other students said the space shuttle blew up. Then a teacher came in and gave us the news.
@PraveenSrJ015 ай бұрын
Life definitely before the internet
@philiptan20515 ай бұрын
NASA has not improved since the challenger tragedy as the debacle of the Starliner has occurred because of the poor decision made at the top during launch. The Starliner has shown several helium leakages prior to launch which have occurred multiple times before that as Boeing could not repaired it permanently. Yet, NASA approved the launch of the Starliner thinking that the problem was not “serious enough” to cancel the launch.
@tetornow5 ай бұрын
OH, THE HORROR! I learned nothing new. I thought that I was going to learn about what the astronauts experienced after the explosion and breakup.
@harrymacdonald8585 ай бұрын
Aye! HORROR "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director ...CHILD ABUSE
@Justin.Martyr2 ай бұрын
*WE wiLL ALL Experience HoRRor if KAM FAILS to WIN !!!!*
@christosvoskresye5 ай бұрын
"By all metrics, the shuttle program was another success for NASA." Bull. From the very beginning it was not about what the astronauts did, but rather about which demographic boxes NASA was able to check off. The shuttle did not really teach us anything about space that we did not already know. (Neither has the ISS. It's not like it was the first space station with long-term occupancy.) Yes, the shuttle enabled the repair of the Hubble -- but the money wasted on the shuttle could have been used to launch a fleet of Hubbles, and those with larger apertures, too, since they would not have to be scaled down to fit in the Hubble bay. "But the shuttle inspired our kids!" Ask any kid today to name an astronaut currently on the ISS. These are not the Mercury 7, for the same reason a pilot doesn't have to be Lucky Lindy to fly across the Atlantic and no one much cares about the hundreds of people who will climb Everest this year. The shuttle is, I suppose, the only American spacecraft to be used and then discarded not because its replacement took over the job, but because it was understood to be more dangerous than the Russian spacecraft.
@robinrichards62755 ай бұрын
And, as usual with government/major companies, no one was indicted for involuntary manslaughter.
@banesbox5 ай бұрын
I remember my 2nd grade teacher Mrs. Brown turning the tv off a few minutes after it exploded. This was a huge deal when it happened.
@MattyEngland5 ай бұрын
Yep, psy-op to traumatise kids, they're still alive.
@kruszer4 ай бұрын
@@TONE11111ha ha! Whuut?? Never heard that one! 😂
@mike891285 ай бұрын
Back in 1976 when I took a class in Aviation safety the subject of the Space Shuttle came up. It was still in development. Our instructor was a Colonel Stevens Ret., who had worked with Chuck Yeager in the USAF Office of Safety, which Yeager ran. He predicted the Challenger disaster because short cuts had been taken with the design and warnings to NASA ignored.
@winstonsmith82405 ай бұрын
I remember seeing it in real time. Took a few minutes to realise what had happened. 😢
@patrickpirzer40805 ай бұрын
Even if the Space Shuttle was an uneconomic and complicated space craft - i'm missing it. Nothing compares to this 18 wheeler in space.
@dx14505 ай бұрын
The amazing thing was that the flight computers were about as powerful as a Radio Shack TRS-80 computer. Remember, this thing was designed in the 1970's and that was a high tech computer at the time. From a documentary I watched, the computers were removable, about the size of a large briefcase, and they carried a bunch of them on board in case one failed, the next one failed, the next one failed, and so forth. They had backups for the backups.
@WitchNectar5 ай бұрын
I met Ron McNair in front of his tiny AFB house in Houston immediately after returning from a previous shuttle mission. I won't forget it.
@milesteg81834 ай бұрын
Flown first in 1977 and still looks like the most futuristic thing ever designed.
@matthowell89855 ай бұрын
Im 45 and i remember as a kid being made to watch this.
@PraveenSrJ015 ай бұрын
I’m 40 years old and was only 2 so I have no memory of this
@coolramone3 ай бұрын
1986?
@chuckhoward36265 ай бұрын
As a US Marine I watched it live; it was a cold and sombering day. Enough said,
@plica065 ай бұрын
No that's not enough said. I wanna know the whole story. The real story.
@Jeph6295 ай бұрын
No one screams 'safety' until disaster strikes. Until then safety engineers, officers or specialists are the villians who "slow things down", create inefficiencies, run-up costs, etc. A flight delay due to thunderstorms is a "delay" not a "safety hold". I spent a career in anesthesiology rarely postponing surgeries for additional heart or lung or diabetes data only to be castigated by surgeons, administrators or (especially) patients. The Michael Jacksons and Joan Rivers of the world never knew what hit 'em.
@jhonditch42695 ай бұрын
i was going to a job interview that company also went down in flames
@oldmanfunky49095 ай бұрын
As a Gen X I can say we knew quickly just how horrible it was. It came out rather quickly that the Astronauts were alive for the entire fall back to earth.
@Maverick76135 ай бұрын
There are indications that at least SOME of the crew were functional/coherent post breakup of the orbiter stack (attempts to restore power to the cockpit via toggled switches and a couple of emergency oxygen switches activated)... but they were already high enough that they were beyond the altitude of survivable environmental conditions and the cabin interior was exposed to the elements from the breakup. Had they somehow survived the LOX fireball eruption of the ET and the massive debris field, they would have been quickly rendered unconscious by the g-forces imparted to them by the breakup and by the loss of atmosphere inside the cockpit. While they may have been "alive" (that has never been, nor could be, definitively concluded) they would have all been unconscious at the time that they died instantly from the deceleration g-force of the cockpit's impact with the ocean.
@carlcushmanhybels81595 ай бұрын
Nothing new in this video; but if you didn't know about what was learned, it'd be OK to experience. However, glaringly missing from this video is the truth that at least 3 of the astronauts were not killed in the blow-up, but 2 min plus later when the crew capsule slammed into the ocean. And several of the crew switched on their reserve oxygen (or had it switched on for them) as the capsule descended at high speed.
@StoneyBrownTV5 ай бұрын
I was in 4th grade when this happened. It was an incredibly cold time for Florida and we were having snow like conditions in central Florida. The destruction of the shuttle was so bad that we were all allowed to go home. I remember the day very well.
@lu-uf8zj5 ай бұрын
Shouldn't those administrators be held liable for criminal negligence?
@MegaSunspark5 ай бұрын
YES, then so should've been Reagan. There was tremendous backstage pressure from the Reagan administration on NASA to get the Challenger off the ground so Reagan could brag about his pet project "teacher in space" during his state of the union speech scheduled for that very night. NASA botched the opportunities to launch on previous several days with much better weather conditions when they had equipment problems, including the previous day, a perfect day for a launch, where they had a stuck crew access hatch handle. By the time they managed to free it by drilling it out, the launch window had passed already. So, on January 28th, the day of Reagan's state of the union speech, they had no choice but to launch come hell or high water to please the president so he could brag. Well, as it turned out, Hell came.
@DrMackSplackem5 ай бұрын
@@MegaSunspark Dr. Feynman looked into this accusation himself and found it baseless. You can read his first person account of his time on the Rogers Commission in his book, "What Do You Care What Other People Think?" A fascinating read.
@dlewis97605 ай бұрын
@@MegaSunspark You got owned. Someone with gravitas at the time looked into it. What do you have?
@mtn.homeforge3515 ай бұрын
Management change worked real well for the Columbia crew didn't it?
@tedsmith61375 ай бұрын
There was indication, quite early in the flight, that something was amiss. The combustion pressure in the defective booster was low, giving a clue that there was a leak. However, traditional thinking was that a case breach would lead to an immediate explosion, so they assumed it was an indication issue. They were, of course, wrong.
@martymcfly87335 ай бұрын
You’re giving out erroneous information. The challenger was not the first loss of life for NASA, Apollo one was. Do your homework before you start lecturing to everybody and quite frankly there was no revelations in this rather boring unnecessary video, which is why your reviews are so great.
@tonyrowland92165 ай бұрын
first loss of life? I seem to remember a mission called Apollo 1. 😢 How soon we forget.
@krashd5 ай бұрын
Apollo 1 never went ahead because the astronauts died during a test for it.
@TheMAMBA19654 ай бұрын
Yes it was not a “mission” however it is poorly worded making it sound like it was the first loss of life in the American space program.
@wwhb47805 ай бұрын
Morton Thiokol is still working for NASA today. They changed their name, got sold to another company to conceal who they are, this one was renamed too and merged to another company etc.
@imtheonevanhalen15575 ай бұрын
The engineers at Thiokol repeatedly called on the morning of the launch saying DO NOT LAUNCH
@wwhb47805 ай бұрын
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 I know. I studied the matter and the actions of Roger Boisjoly for days. And the management of Thiokol DID launch the Space Shuttle on demand of NASA managemenet, which were too stupid to understand the problem, and believed physics could be intimidated like their employees, for marketing reasons. Wikipedia's Article (search for "Thiokol") says it bluntly: "The company was found at fault for the destruction of Challenger and deaths of the astronauts, as a direct causality from pressure from NASA to launch". In the same article there are listed all the splits and name changes Thiokol company underwent to hide their company history.
@oneskydog67685 ай бұрын
It was the director of NASA he bullied everyone! Out of spec launch condtions! Like plugging in a 110 v appliance in a 220 outlet not going to work. I was the process engineer on the advanced solid rocket boosters. 1500 people walked including me. You can see the boosters at Huntsville Al Space Center.
@ronnieterry49165 ай бұрын
Workers actually lost their jobs. Unlike more recent failures where no one lost a job. Nor did they even receive a slap on the wrist.
@nasacollector36765 ай бұрын
@ronnieterry4916 and arrogant cnuts like Linda Ham were promoted after the Columbia disaster. The sick part is the crew could have survived if Linda had allowed multiple offers from American assets to image Columbia and see the damage to the RCC. Unfortunately Linda turned down offers from NRO, CIA, Hubble, USAF and others to image the damage to Columbia. Another issue was the foam that broke off the MET and caused the hole in the RCC was a last minute addition and completely unnecessary. One other thing people don't talk about is why Columbia was brought home on a standard high heat entry profile, rather than a low heat reentry that starts the reentry interface over Australia.
@warrenchinn41145 ай бұрын
Hmm click-bait title. So what exactly was 'way more horrific than people realize' ? How could it be more horrific? It was universally horrible and sad. Silly title. Might give 'Slash Gear' a miss from now on.
@PraveenSrJ015 ай бұрын
Maybe because the astronauts fell into the ocean 🌊 while conscious
@fredflintstoner5965 ай бұрын
STILL MY FAVORITE SPACE LAUNCH THANKS FOR THE UPLOAD !
@JW-jl8iq5 ай бұрын
Correction 73 seconds i was down there on that fateful day
@harrymacdonald8585 ай бұрын
CHILD ABUSE,,"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director ...
@PraveenSrJ015 ай бұрын
Very sad how all those astronauts lost their lives
@SciHeartJourney5 ай бұрын
Before the accident happened, there were a number of problems that delayed the launch. One delay that really shocked me was that they needed a part for the door, but the "store was closed." WTF? 🤯 Couldn't someone with AUTHORITY open that NASA store? If I were the head of NASA and some store manager told me, "The store is closed", I would have FIRED them right away. I don't care if it's 3 am, WAKE TF up! 😡 I have a clear memory of my outrage. I was 19 when this happened.
@Justin.Martyr2 ай бұрын
*If KAM Loses, America wiLL soon Look Like the ChaLLenger!!!!*
@davehall442 ай бұрын
I remember another screw up around about then where delay was reportedly caused by a flat battery tool. Didn't own any cordless tools at the time but it struck me as being sub optimal.
@GeekFurious5 ай бұрын
I had to check the comments section within 30 seconds to see if people were losing their minds at the fact this is CLEARLY an AI voice reading a poorly "researched" ChatGPT "history lesson" and... yep. This channel should get a channel strike for BS. Sadly, KZbin doesn't care.
@cactusblob16885 ай бұрын
Hey, it sells ads....LOL!
@Thepeanutgallery6664 ай бұрын
I remember that morning. I was in school. We had just spent the previous three weeks building a paper model of the shuttle as a class. As soon as the shuttle exploded, well, as soon as the teacher realized what had happened, she just shut off the tv, and we started math. And that was that. We all knew what happened, but it was a different time. I think we all grieved in our own way. It was a big deal. It made it all over the news. Nobody ever talked to us about it. They didn't need to I guess.
@coweatsman5 ай бұрын
NASA of the 60s and 70s was a different animal to NASA of the 80s.
@kennixox2625 ай бұрын
Well, when I was in the USAF during that, the big joke was "Where does NASA send their astronauts on vacation? All over Florida" Or, Christa McCallauf asking "What's that button for?" These were not mere enlisted jokes, my peers, other USAF officers were the worst offenders. Most people these days weren't even born in 1986 and frankly, a lot of people today don't even remember 9/11. Just goes to show how fast history moves.
@3dtexan8905 ай бұрын
The solid busters were NOT fuel tanks. How did you get that wrong. They are SOLID fuel rockets that are filled as a slurry and it hardens. Then it is ignited and cannot be stopped until all the solid fuel has been used! Ever wonder why Sally Ride had only 1 flight? NASA lost it's way after the Apollo missions.
@dx14505 ай бұрын
You're right. The center fuel tank was a fuel tank though, holding liquid hydrogen, and powered the shuttle's actual engines (the three big rockets on the rear). The boosters helped the whole thing get about 10 miles up, and once they were spent and ejected the shuttle's engines took it the rest of the way into space.
@RickPMandel5 ай бұрын
The only way this video could have been any worse would have been if it were longer. Not to self, if you ever see anything coming from "SlashGear", know the thing that's being slashed is solid and reliable research and reporting. This is a travesty. You should be ashamed, but we all know better. If you did, This wouldn't still be up
@michman25 ай бұрын
Given that the Apollo 1 fire, Challenger's loss, and Columbia's loss (17 lives) were all inside the atmosphere, I'd suggest that space is looking like the easy part of the trip. Scientists are overlooking something that we all take for granted: air.
@noelhernandez3634 ай бұрын
I remember watching this tragedy happen right in front of my own eyes on live TV 📺 I just couldn't believe it!! RIP 7 astronautas! 🙏🕊💔
@Taketimeout35 ай бұрын
It was so cold, so very unusually cold, that many thought it would be postponed. How often do you see crowds watching a launch in Florida wearing fur overcoats?
@bradsanders4074 ай бұрын
It wasn't played at my school. I was the one who let staff know it happened. Having afternoon kindergarten I told my teacher when i got to school and she had a shocked look on her face and went to the office and the news spread like wildfire from there.
@RossD1894 ай бұрын
This was so messed up from the jump. Sad and disastrous at the same time.
@duncandistortion11 күн бұрын
I remember it like it was yesterday.
@RMartin6315 ай бұрын
Unfortunately NASA hadn't learned their lesson. They knew ice could break off and damage the shuttle's heat shield tiles. They were warned by engineers that the Columbia may have suffered damage to the heat tiles bad enough to cause a catastrophic failure. And again, they didn't heed the warning.
@AndrewHillis_20245 ай бұрын
COMPLACENCY & HUBRIS, WHAT A DEADLY COMBINATION & SO IT PROVED HERE ! ! !
@stevesloan71325 ай бұрын
The investigation took two years. And all shuttle launches were canceled until it was complete. The subsequent Pepcon Disaster in Harrison Arizona was a knock on effect of The Challenger Disaster.
@WesBell-l4s5 ай бұрын
I remember watching it happen on TV. Was at school,then they let us go home. Was a BIG DEAL,back then.
@johnd53985 ай бұрын
I was out of school this day, for some reason. My parents delivered the local newspaper and I was helping them, since I was out of school. As we waited just outside the production building, the printing press had just started when some dipshit ran inside shouting "stop the presses!", like he was in some kind of fricking movie. That's when we heard what happened. We waited for hours while the newsroom gathered information and the newspaper was updated with the story.
@Matt-bu3ml4 ай бұрын
For the TLDR people: there was an engineer who warned his management about the o-ring but they ignored him. Also those potential astronauts survived the explosion and it was the impact with the water that killed them. A parachute would've saved them NASA didn't think it was necessary to put one in the nose of the capsule
@billhart87295 ай бұрын
In Tufte's book on visual presentations, he plots seal damage versus temperature, which clearly shows the danger, versus Nasa's plot versus mission number that leaves it obscured.
@BriarLeaf002 ай бұрын
Were they not alive until hitting the water, or was that the next shuttle disaster? I know one of them, years later, was revealed to have a crew capsule with crew inside intact until contact with water, where all inside were obliterated instantly.
@exiled_londoner2 ай бұрын
"It was the first loss of life experienced during a NASA mission" (10:54). Really... this sort of depends on how you define 'mission'. I seem to recall that three NASA astronauts were incinerated during a test-firing of the Apollo One rocket in 1967. The three unfortunates were in the capsule at the time but the rocket did not leave the launch-pad, so presumably this assignment did not count as a 'mission'. I think this is a semantic distinction as whether you are incinerated at ground level (or however high the capsule was on top of the Apollo launcher) or whether you are incinerated at forty-six-thousand feet makes little difference.
@stuartbear9224 ай бұрын
The shuttle program may have been a dud, but the main RS-25 engines were amazing.
@angusmcclelland48465 ай бұрын
Criminally Negligent but no one was charged. America should be proud of Elon but they treat him like shit. What is wrong with you guys?
@lawrencefields78745 ай бұрын
Don't blame that on the WHOLE of the US. MOST of us here in the States LOVE and respect Elon. Don't take our media's word for how the majority of us see him. Most of us here in the States appreciate his genius. Trust me on that.
@mjouwbuis5 ай бұрын
If Elon were in charge, even larger cost cuts and risks would have been accepted.
@dickjohnson95825 ай бұрын
Judging by the build quality of his cars I'm sure they would've been fine...
@slicingonions43985 ай бұрын
Ive heard all of this already. Nobody talks about they survived the explosion but died when they hit the water
@CaptainXanax5 ай бұрын
Yea, I don't think this video really captures the true effect this event had on people at the time. There were months of build up to it, tons of excitement, and back then seeing a true disaster unfold on television wasn't nearly as common as it is today. I was in the 6th grade walking between my school gym and my home room and could probably still put you within 10 ft of the spot I was standing when I heard.
@mariefortunato47374 ай бұрын
Remember that horrible day so very clearly!
@m3talentagency6804 ай бұрын
Management prioritizing schedule over safety. They had it coming.
@howtosober2 ай бұрын
"Scores of Gen X remember..." yup, I was in first grade. They hyped up that launch for months, and we all knew the name Christa McAuliffe, third grade teacher from Boston, MA almost like it was our own. We watched her come down out of the sky in pieces right in class, then they sent us to lunch like nothing happened. Continued the school day as planned, "Nothing to see here, kids!" So that's basically how the Baby Boomers thought of kids, parenting, and being the adults during the 80s if anyone was wondering.
@dalecarpenter88285 ай бұрын
They new about heat shield damage from insulation breaking off the main fuel tank during launch before the second incident ass well and did nothing to fix the design problem !
@JayJay-f9z4 ай бұрын
More horrific than having a manned space craft explode on national television while children across the country watched?
@PraveenSrJ015 ай бұрын
I was 2 years 4 months old when the challenger explosion 1986
@geemonster91795 ай бұрын
I remember watching this on live TV i was 16 at the time
@ram27912 ай бұрын
It was not the first loss of life mission. January 27, 1967. Virgil "Gus" Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee died inside the command capsule because of a fire.
@raccoon8745 ай бұрын
next time listen to your engineers.. oh wait, no next time
@krashd5 ай бұрын
Of course there was a next time, shuttles kept flying for almost 20 more years...
@dannydougin39255 ай бұрын
"More horrific" in what way? There is *NOTHING* new here folks! Click bait at it's *worst!*
@silverstreammusic13254 ай бұрын
Challenger was not the first loss of life in the agency. Grissom, White and Chaffee burned in their capsule. Their Gemini capsule a top the launchpad during a test run. They died because NASA didn’t bother to have nonflammable materials inside the capsule and other protocols that failed in their rescue Including failure in communications between the inside of the capsule and personnel on the outside
@kneekoo5 ай бұрын
I hope they won't allow pride to influence the right decision about Starliner. If it can bring the astronauts safely, so be it. If not, they should make the right call.
@Poppyseed_muffin5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@PraveenSrJ015 ай бұрын
I don’t mean to sound callous but traveling to space is extremely risky and dangerous but still I hope all those astronauts that died Rest In Peace ☮️
@kneekoo5 ай бұрын
Of course there are big risks, but the Challenger crew could've completed their mission successfully if the management listened to the engineers. They rushed it with full knowledge of the O-ring problem. That's why I hope they won't risk again.
@GreenPatriot20242 ай бұрын
Morton Thiokol's parent company was Morton Salt, after this disaster Morton Salt sold the Morton Thiokol Division.
@PraveenSrJ015 ай бұрын
How on earth 🌍 will humans go to proxima centurAi which is 4.25 light years away
@francisdhomer59105 ай бұрын
My opinion. Part of the responsibility falls on congress. When NASA first proposed the shuttle it was a beautiful craft. The Rolls Royce of space at the time. Then each year the budget was cut. NASA and their contractors were forced to start cutting corners. In the end we ended up with what we got. A Yugo of space. While it did it's job there was always a lot of problems. If we want to keep man in space we can't cut corners .
@3dartistguy4 ай бұрын
NASA ignored safety warnings
@adamlewellen50814 ай бұрын
The horrible part was the crew was alive and tried to fly the shuttle until impact....
@cpchehaibar5 ай бұрын
No documentary about this event omitting to mention Allan J. McDonald is complete.
@badwolfpro15 ай бұрын
So many people get it wrong. Challenger did not explode. IT just broke apart. There was no shock wave, no detonation, no "bang" - viewers on the ground just heard the roar of the engines stop as the shuttle’s fuel tank tore apart. Challenger itself was torn apart as it was flung free of the other rocket components and turned broadside into the Mach 2 airstream. And the videos you see where there is a sound of an explosion is because some documentaries added the sound of the explosion to the video.
@aktchungrabanio64675 ай бұрын
My god you are SO INTELLIGENT!!!!
@badwolfpro15 ай бұрын
@@aktchungrabanio6467 My god, someone trying to be rude to someone pointing out facts they once learned at Space Camp. It also helps that I was in school when it happened, so I seen and heard about it first hand. Its funny how 3rd graders now days have to chime in when someone is just trying to be helpful for others who may not know something. Good comment though, gave me a good laugh!!!! 😂😂😂😂
@dx14505 ай бұрын
Look at the video. The center fuel tank exploded.
@badwolfpro15 ай бұрын
@@dx1450 I have seen the video, several times. I also saw it on tv the day it happened. I also learned about it when I was at Space Camp when I was in high school. It was not an explosion. That is why you also see the booster rockets continue up before NASA sent a signal for them to detonate out of safety concerns. It looked like it exploded but later investigations found no detonation or explosion, which is why there was no explosion sound or shockwave. The fuel tank itself collapsed and tore apart, and the resulting flood of liquid oxygen and hydrogen created the huge fireball believed by many to be an explosion. At Space Camp the instructor used a can of pop as an example. He said the can of pop was the fuel tank. Try to squeeze it and you can't because it is under pressure, like the tank. Pop the top of the can open and the pressure is released, like the hole created in the side of the tank. Tilt it on its side and the pop flows out the hole, like the fuel from the fuel tank. Then try and crush the can. You can now crush (or collapse) it because it is not under pressure anymore. The tank collapsed from the Gforce and the fuel ignited causing the fireball. The shuttle turned broadside into the airstream which caused it to break apart.
@manonmars20092 ай бұрын
So, why was the Challenger tragedy way more horrific? We already know what happened. The title led me to believe the astronauts endured a far more harrowing death than was told to the public.
@theodorejay10465 ай бұрын
What do you mean way more horrific ... compared ro what 🙄
@larryburroughs71775 ай бұрын
And unfortunately, NASA is still making poor judgment calls. Look at the boing space capsule that’s sitting right now on the international space station because of a hydrogen leak which they knew about before launch.
@h5mind3735 ай бұрын
It would have been much more interesting to do a piece on the theory the entire crew of the Challenger actually were never onboard. Some of them still use their real name; another said he's a twin to the astronaut who died, etc. There are articles and photos online.
@tiggersboy4 ай бұрын
You can post anything but that doesn’t make it true. This nonsense is a perfect example.
@PraveenSrJ015 ай бұрын
How will we ever go to mars if we are so scared 😱 of trying again
@AndrewHillis_20245 ай бұрын
THE REAL HORROR IS THAT SOME OF THE CREW SURVIVED THE BREAKUP OF THE VEHICLE IN THEIR CREW CABIN BEFORE IT HIT THE OCEAN ! ! !
@Poppyseed_muffin5 ай бұрын
That's heartbreaking
@jimmooney52235 ай бұрын
@@Poppyseed_muffin But again, not unknown. This is not new information. The video title is clickbait of the worst kind.
@PraveenSrJ015 ай бұрын
How do you know this????
@SciHeartJourney5 ай бұрын
Peer pressure killed those people 😢 Nobody with the authority had the BALLS to tell the mainstream news they'll have to WAIT. Instead they caved into that peer pressure of millions of people watching on TV. They wanted an AUDIENCE so badly, they got it. 🤦
@dewayneblue18345 ай бұрын
Umm, no. Delays were common, and this particular mission had already been delayed 4 times! The previous delay was from January 22 to the launch date of Jan. 28.
@richardarcher34354 ай бұрын
And yet Columbia happened for exactly the same reasons. Foam had dislodged during previous mission launches but they had got away with it. It seems the lessons of Challenger were not learnt.
@adamdelarozza19853 ай бұрын
What a jip. Nothing New to be learned about how this was even more horrific than realized.
@slowpoke31025 ай бұрын
Good to hear they still aren't blaming McDonnell Douglas as usual . . . This happened because LM playing politics forced their way to the Com
@johnvesper9894 ай бұрын
What went wrong? Rather than listen to the engineers, management listened to the politicians
@MattyEngland5 ай бұрын
They're all still alive. Was a psy-op, no one was aboard
@jamesmassey-cc4ml5 ай бұрын
Judith Resnik the Challenger astronaut and Judith Resnik Yale law professor shown 30 years later is the same woman. We’ve all been played. Can you say Capricorn one??!!!😡😡😡😡
@MrSatampra2 ай бұрын
The Space Shuttle program was a massive and expensive failure. The technology required to create a reliable and safe reusable spacecraft did not, and still do not, exist.
@trj14425 ай бұрын
And here we are in 2024 with Starliner still stuck in low earth orbit, and people still think we went to the moon 6 times flawlessly 50 odd years ago in the 60's and 70's. 😂
@da40flyer4 ай бұрын
Flawlessly? Pretty sure the crews of Apollos 1 and 13 would both very strongly disagree with you.
@trj14424 ай бұрын
@@da40flyer i was referring to the just the successful alleged moon landings.
@tiggersboy4 ай бұрын
If they had been fake the Russians would have been all over it. They even tried to beat Apollo 11 to the moon with a unmanned lander to return moon surface material in an attempt to upstage the Americans. It failed.
@bradtryon54214 ай бұрын
This doesn't get into the gorey details that you can find in the report on the nasa website. I read it about a year ago. Try to find it
@hotboy80baby184 ай бұрын
Is it true that they found some of them still burned to the seats 💺?
@josephdupont5 ай бұрын
The tragedy of the challenger and as much as I love Ronald Reagan. He pushed that thing to take place on time and they were going to delay it. And as a result, it was too cold. It was too cold. The engineers said it, they were crying, they said, we don't don't launch everybody's going to die, no one listened because they wanted to have this press conference about getting the first teacher into space. I guess to get Democrat votes or something? And that really is the cause of this disaster
@fastmclaren715 ай бұрын
I realized that being strapped into a rocket when it explodes, is fairly horrific. So get fcked SlashGear.