The Chase Train Collision | A Short Documentary | Fascinating Horror

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Fascinating Horror

Fascinating Horror

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@bellemeri8155
@bellemeri8155 11 ай бұрын
I was sixteen when this happened right behind my grandmother's house. Some of the uninjured passengers walked to the house and stayed on the heated patio until transported elsewhere. It was a chaotic day and night as the crash took out the power, all the rescue crews blocked the roads, and the scene itself was horrible. My grandfather was on one of the paramedic crews that responded to the scene. I don't think I'll ever forget the aftermath of events.
@martinkalmus3761
@martinkalmus3761 11 ай бұрын
16 years..and 16 body bags but killer gets 5 to 4 long years too :)
@SAOS451316
@SAOS451316 11 ай бұрын
One should be careful with personal information online. With this comment we know your age and where you or at least your grandmother used to live, which is enough to find your real name, everywhere you have lived, your phone number, your school history, your job, your face, and your friends and family. Easy identity theft or stalking. The Internet is a wonderful tool, but like any other requires a modicum of safe practices.
@DARWINZOO
@DARWINZOO 11 ай бұрын
​@SAOS451316 he Was 16. Probably knows what he's doing. I'm just saying that this info is everywhere anyway. Guard your phone numbers. Don't use your real name or birthday on social media. That said, if you're likely to be Doxxed, check out your social media trail. Google yourself. Never allow tagging. Privacy is an illusion. Unless we get past it we won't get cameras of 4 way stops because omg Privacy! My legal name is nowhere on the internet. Oh yeah, you can try. But thing is, trapped on dial-up AOL I already protected my name. Xo Sam
@shaundevrisky349
@shaundevrisky349 11 ай бұрын
🙄@@SAOS451316
@EziekKiel
@EziekKiel 11 ай бұрын
@@SAOS451316 Ya know, I think you're an awesome person for showing concern for the kiddo. But really all we do know is that a 16 year old somewhere in Boston has a grandmother. If you can actually sleuth your way into acquiring more personal details then you have my respect!
@adde9506
@adde9506 11 ай бұрын
I worked emergency services in a town in New England years ago. There was a train line running through town that serviced Amtrak. Amtrak Authority provided training for us; those dudes are no joke. The rules were simple: stay off the rails, if something is wrong with the rails call us immediately no matter how trivial, do not try to fix a broken crossing without direct instructions from us (we had a standing order for one that consisted entirely of "push up gently on the crossing arm with one hand"). Then they showed us a video of a woman getting hit by a train; she exploded, and her disembodied legs nearly killed a reporter. In town speed for a train is 25mph even though it looks like it's doing 3 and it will destroy you. They don't care if you're dumb enough to get hit, they didn't even seem overly concerned about their stuff being broken, but traumatizing their engineers and potentially killing passengers? Aw heck no.
@justlurkingthrough6267
@justlurkingthrough6267 11 ай бұрын
I literally got an Amtrak ad before this video. Good lord.
@Unownshipper
@Unownshipper 11 ай бұрын
Seriously, this terrible tragedy was caused because the drivers were stoned?! Sounds like some awful after school special PSA, and yet if these two had watched such programming, maybe this could've been avoided. Sucks that Cromwell got immunity. Blame should've been shared for this, both were guilty. Solid episode, but for future reference, Maryland isn't pronounced like "Merry Land," but rather "meh-ruh-luhnd."
@johnnycee5179
@johnnycee5179 6 ай бұрын
Jeez, with all these wrecks I'm wondering if any train hasn't wrecked?
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 11 ай бұрын
Never thought about it, but if Cromwell and Gates also ignored the last signal, the crash would have been less severe, with longer stopping distance, and lower differential speed.
@BNO-4333
@BNO-4333 11 ай бұрын
They probably would have hit on the bridge in that case
@jerrywright9657
@jerrywright9657 11 ай бұрын
The older members of the firehouse where I volunteer still talk about that day. We are 26 miles from the crash location and were called out along with almost every other FH in the area. This incident turns up in mass causality incident response planning.
@Flyboy207
@Flyboy207 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been a volunteer FF for about 7 years, my station is also responsible for our regional airport. In our MCI drills, we usually assume that structural failure of the aircraft would have occurred and victims would be ejected, but even if it hadn’t, extrication from an aluminum/composite aircraft wouldn’t be too hard. I can’t imagine trying to extricate victims from a stainless steel train car. My hat’s off to them.
@blackhouse4421
@blackhouse4421 11 ай бұрын
I started working with Amtrak a few years after this accident and was assigned to one of the repair shops that worked on the rail cars damaged in this accident. It was disturbing to work on these cars because there were belongings of the survivors and deceased still on some of the cars. Some cars were beyond repair, cannibalized for parts & scrapped.
@LoveMaskedBandits
@LoveMaskedBandits 11 ай бұрын
Were the items retrieved sent to any family members?
@blackhouse4421
@blackhouse4421 11 ай бұрын
Yes, everything that could be identified belonging passengers on the manifest, but small personal items couldn't be accounted for, such as hairbrushes, books, make-up, etc.@@LoveMaskedBandits
@MisterRawgers
@MisterRawgers 11 ай бұрын
This man deserves so many more views & subscribers. So many channels are using annoying A.I narration. This dude not only covers obscure cases but he does it in a way that comes across so naturally with the facts & great editing. I’ve been here with this channel a long time now & can say that he (or the team) deserve the views & many more imo. Thank you!
@murphychurch8251
@murphychurch8251 11 ай бұрын
I agree, he does them in a dignified manner, without being overly dramatic. I also love that he keeps doing them in the same way and doesn't change his way of doing these videos every now and then, which is something I find disappointing on other channels.
@morganaravens
@morganaravens 11 ай бұрын
@@murphychurch8251 the only change i noticed was, thankfully, lowering the volume of the bg music, and doing some funny stuff for the holidays
@bakugobaby3100
@bakugobaby3100 11 ай бұрын
Brick immortar does this too. Different events but mass respect. I enjoy watching both ❤
@rapidthrash1964
@rapidthrash1964 11 ай бұрын
I never heard about this accident before; I can’t believe that a person with a severe drinking problem would be allowed to operate locomotive at all by their employer
@christopherweise438
@christopherweise438 11 ай бұрын
Look at all the drunk pilots that were flying years ago. Some times the employers just don't know.
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 11 ай бұрын
The employer was Conrail, which was a US government entity.
@nii9466
@nii9466 11 ай бұрын
you'd be shocked how many functional alcoholics are out there. people that drive to & from work every day drunk, do their job drunk, etc. if it's a longstanding problem they get very good at masking it & it can be very hard to notice. it's pretty scary
@christopherweise438
@christopherweise438 11 ай бұрын
@@nii9466 - I know....i used to be one of them. I got very good at always being where i was supposed to be, and covering my tracks. In December i will have been sober 25 years. I'm glad the Conrail engineer has made a positive change in his life.
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 11 ай бұрын
In the UK if you'd been arrested for drunk driving and you had a job like that, your employer would be told, you'd be suspended and if convicted you'd lose your job.
@adamhickey396
@adamhickey396 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad that the person responsible for this accident has shown remorse and contrition for their actions and has spent the rest of their life trying to help others. Very rare to see this in these stories. I do think that the second person got off too lightly though.
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 11 ай бұрын
He had more humanity and dignity than most of the "killers" in these videos... He reminds of that other guy from the Hyatt Regency Video.
@reversalmushroom
@reversalmushroom 11 ай бұрын
I think the 1st person got off way too lightly. They killed 16 people and only got 4 years in prison? There are people who only kill 1 and get life without parole. I hate how "well, you didn't mean to" is this magic, borderline get out of jail free card that lets you commit way worse crimes and get off easy.
@kellark
@kellark 11 ай бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing.
@faenethlorhalien
@faenethlorhalien 11 ай бұрын
@@reversalmushroom Because they were white. Basically. I'd have jailed them for 15 years at least, no parole before 10.
@foo219
@foo219 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, this was a life in prison type of crime in my opinion. But the one guy is making up for it at least. The other guy just walked away free, though? That's not justice.
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned 11 ай бұрын
The account that follows 06:20 now makes me wonder how many people have survived the initial unfolding of some terrible disaster only to be trampled by their fellow humans. I'm sure it's a lot.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 11 ай бұрын
It's definitely a repeating theme here on this channel.
@THEFINALHAZARD
@THEFINALHAZARD 11 ай бұрын
It's a repeating theme through history sadly.
@justandy333
@justandy333 11 ай бұрын
Yep, sadly crushes, stampedes and getting crushed under foot are all too common. In a mad panic people often only think about their own safety at the cost of others. It's not their fault, its just how our brains are wired. Some people can stay cool under pressure and override this flight response, some people have it drilled into them, but sadly its quite rare.
@gsdalpha1358
@gsdalpha1358 11 ай бұрын
@@justandy333 As someone who got caught in a stampeding crush of people, there is *nothing* you can do to stop moving. If someone falls, it won't slow down or stop a huge solid wall of people pushing forward, and it's almost hard to breath, the crushing is that bad! You can't stop or bend down to help anyone or that wall of people just moves *over* you. Thanks to that experience, I'm claustrophobic now.
@TerryFarrah
@TerryFarrah 11 ай бұрын
@@gsdalpha1358 Which crush were you caught in?
@ceilinh6004
@ceilinh6004 11 ай бұрын
In 2000, I was on a train that collided with a bunch of construction equipment that had been left on the track. Luckily, no one died, and there weren't even any serious injuries. There was a pregnant woman worried that she was going into labour, another passenger with a badly bruised arm, and another with a bruised chest (from the tray table) but as far as I know, that was it. My mum, an RN, was asked to help with the injuries. I was left to my own devices for a bit, so I snapped a couple of photos of the wreckage after getting our luggage off the train. We eventually were led on foot to a nearby community centre. We were fed hotdogs, assessed for injuries (again, my mum helped) and eventually loaded onto busses to continue on to our destination. We only ended up being around six hours late arriving.
@daviddunsmore103
@daviddunsmore103 11 ай бұрын
I hope that your Mom got at least a very polite letter of thanks from the railway company!! 👏
@kellyreiche8775
@kellyreiche8775 11 ай бұрын
what about the pregnant woman who thought she was going into labor with her baby was the baby born or was it a false alarm because of the trauma that she endured I am wondering if she is okay and worried about her and her baby and I know that her son or daughter are not a baby anymore but I am curious
@ceilinh6004
@ceilinh6004 11 ай бұрын
@@kellyreiche8775 I have no idea. We never heard from anyone afterward. I assume they were okay. At the time, my mum didn't seem to think the woman was in labour. If she had been, the baby would still likely have been fine, as the pregnancy was quite advanced.
@tdoran616
@tdoran616 11 ай бұрын
Where was this? Might be able to find a online article or news segment about this
@ceilinh6004
@ceilinh6004 11 ай бұрын
@@tdoran616 Just outside of Guelph, Ontario. Summer of 2000. Edit: I googled it. It was train 683 on July 9th, 2000.
@classicmicroscopy9398
@classicmicroscopy9398 11 ай бұрын
Having experienced two car crashes, I don't even want to imagine the trauma and horror of a train collision. I hope the survivors got the mental help they likely needed.
@tanderson6442
@tanderson6442 11 ай бұрын
I've lost 2 brothers in vehicular car crashes. One was crushed when the van rolled and he was half ejected out the window. The other in a head-on collision he was traveling 90-95mph the suv he hit was going over 100mph less then a foot of skid marks the 2 vehicles were fused together in the ditch and had to be cut apart at the wrecking yard. I've been in 3 roll overs, 2 collisions with trees that totaled the vehicle. Hit a moose at 65mph in a Ford Explorer that almost killed me. I once wrecked a bike so bad I was KO'd for over 2 hours and a Angel put me back into my body. You could call it trauma. Or you can come to terms that there is such thing as luck, natural selection, and nobody makes it out of this life alive. I was also told something I will never forget at my brother Jason's funeral by my religious aunt. She said "Never put a question mark where GOD has put a period".
@quest1227
@quest1227 11 ай бұрын
@@tanderson6442sounds like yall gotta slow down 😮😅
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 11 ай бұрын
​@@quest1227 Bruh. Tactless.
@classicmicroscopy9398
@classicmicroscopy9398 11 ай бұрын
@@quest1227 Nah neither accident was my fault. I had no points added.
@tanderson6442
@tanderson6442 11 ай бұрын
@@quest1227 that was just life in rural Alaska circa 1980.
@PetesNikon
@PetesNikon 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I truly appreciate your solemn voice and respectful treatment of this sort of subject. This report was done right.
@maryloufarnsworth8461
@maryloufarnsworth8461 11 ай бұрын
I live in Essex about 5 miles from the crash site. My one brother was training to be an EMT at the time and was at the crash site. Talk about a hands-on experience! Since the crash knocked out power lines along the railway, a radio relay station was set up at a nearby school. My other brother was a ham radio operator and volunteered to man the radios. Information about the victims and survivors was relayed up and down the railroad line. I gave blood. Local restaurants provided food for the rescue crews. This became a real community effort to bring as much aid to this disaster as we could.
@artman2oo3
@artman2oo3 11 ай бұрын
The thing that had me screaming at the screen was the fact that all those safety items on the other train were purposely disabled! What kind of psychopath does this??
@lostbutfreesoul
@lostbutfreesoul 11 ай бұрын
False Alarms. What likely occurred in this situation was an alarm giving false positives and no one in the company had bothered to fix it when notified. It had then been silenced by someone who didn't want to deal with the fifteenth false signal that day. Likely why no one complained about it during the start of the shift either. Everyone knew but as the company never fixed the underlining problem of the False Alarms, why take off the tape...? Again, can not say for 100%, but when you listen to enough disaster videos: Companies not doing something about False Alarms is a massive problem!
@mememan2344
@mememan2344 11 ай бұрын
It seems that almost every time safety is disabled, it's to cut corners to save time or make something easier
@avgeek-and-fashion
@avgeek-and-fashion 11 ай бұрын
Capitalism.
@FRLN500
@FRLN500 11 ай бұрын
@@avgeek-and-fashion What? Crew members were responsible. How does that equate with capitalism. Please take your ignorance elsewhere.
@avgeek-and-fashion
@avgeek-and-fashion 11 ай бұрын
It is not my fault that you cannot recognise the bigger picture here. We are all part of capitalism. You too. Educate yourself before being weird on the internet. I can give you a few links if you want. @@FRLN500
@kitsunekun2345
@kitsunekun2345 11 ай бұрын
Just goes to show, you can never be complacent when you have other people's safety in your hands. Because everything is fine until it really REALLY isn't
@adamhickey396
@adamhickey396 11 ай бұрын
This channel, PlainlyDifficult and Horror Stories are my go-to channels for this kind of content. Always well informed and offers important information to learn from so that, hopefully, others won't make the same mistakes.
@insanimal2
@insanimal2 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your channel choices. If you haven't already check out Waterline Stories and Maritime Horrors , they are both maritime focused but equally well done.
@kettle_of_chris
@kettle_of_chris 11 ай бұрын
Same@@insanimal2
@danielabackstrom
@danielabackstrom 11 ай бұрын
I haven't heard of Horror Stories, I'll check it out 🤩
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 11 ай бұрын
Plainly difficult is just another content farm channel imo
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 11 ай бұрын
​@@pootispiker2866I like how PD explains certain situations.
@goodemily
@goodemily 11 ай бұрын
I remembered when this happened. My friend’s sister was supposed to be on the train but overslept. I was with my friend when it happened but they thought she was on it at the time it crashed. Such a preventable accident.
@neptunenavalmods4420
@neptunenavalmods4420 11 ай бұрын
Our school's anti-drug counselor was really lucky, he and his wife were also supposed to be on board - they just missed it. Great guy and recovering alcoholic who turned counselor just like Ricky Gates. Told us kids the story to prove that "Mary Jane" is not harmless if you're operating a vehicle!
@christopherjohnson5236
@christopherjohnson5236 11 ай бұрын
This is why people need to understand that weed, what is now legal in some states, can still cause problems if not used properly. Its the same with alcohol. Use it responsibly.
@ct92404
@ct92404 9 ай бұрын
I despise potheads. It isn't "harmless" like they try to claim, and this disaster is just one of countless examples that proves it.
@christopherjohnson5236
@christopherjohnson5236 9 ай бұрын
@ct92404 plus weed stays in your system longer then alcohol
@ehfik
@ehfik 7 ай бұрын
there was a huge train accident in germany, few years ago... the operator played on his cell phone... its about ATTENTION
@christopherjohnson5236
@christopherjohnson5236 3 ай бұрын
​@@ehfik same what happened in Chatsworth, CA in 2008, where the engineer was texting while driving
@dyamonde9555
@dyamonde9555 11 ай бұрын
wow, the people in the train were insanely lucky. when i heard the number of passengers i fully expected the dead to reach triple digits.
@bemusedbandersnatch2069
@bemusedbandersnatch2069 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if the design of the new cars helped some.
@phillydogsarmagameplay
@phillydogsarmagameplay 10 ай бұрын
@@bemusedbandersnatch2069 Sure they did!
@YukariAkiyamaTanks
@YukariAkiyamaTanks 11 ай бұрын
I actually met Ricky a few months ago. He still lives nearby chase in Maryland. He's a friendly guy and very remorseful
@nevaehhamilton3493
@nevaehhamilton3493 11 ай бұрын
Remorse will not bring back the lives the driver killed. Why do you see that ignoramus as a human being?
@queencerseilannister3519
@queencerseilannister3519 10 ай бұрын
​@nevaehhamilton3493 “We must develop and maintain the capacity to forgive. He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love," Martin Luther King Jr. The guy made one of the worst mistakes a human can make, but he IS still a human. If the victims have forgiven him, then what is it your place to judge?
@nevaehhamilton3493
@nevaehhamilton3493 10 ай бұрын
@@queencerseilannister3519 forgiveness will never bring back the loved ones they lost. Forgiveness will never heal the pain from from the grief that is everlasting. Forgiveness will never fix the catastrophes created from the tragedy. Forgiveness is a sham. Forgiveness erases the accountability and responsibility for the catalyst of the tragedy. Forgiveness shows mercy to those who are unworthy of mercy.
@maximillian1109
@maximillian1109 8 ай бұрын
​@@nevaehhamilton3493Forgiveness is just as important as judgement. Do you realize how many desitions you have made that could have lead to manslaughter? People get lazy, and don’t realize the danger they put others and themselves in, and sometimes that leads to catastrophies.
@Eatinbritches
@Eatinbritches 6 ай бұрын
​@@nevaehhamilton3493 Learning from one's mistakes is a cornerstone of human nature.
@seandelap8587
@seandelap8587 11 ай бұрын
Always look forward to Tuesday mornings for a dose of FH he never disappoints with his content
@ongbonga9025
@ongbonga9025 11 ай бұрын
When I was younger, I worked at a theme park running rides, including rollercoasters and little kiddie's rides. I also liked to party and particularly liked smoking weed. That said, I wouldn't dream of operating a ride with kids on it while high. I'd work the bar of a pub while stoned, I was even a projectionist running old cinema equipment and was regularly high there, but where you're responsible for other peoples' safety, that's a big no. Both these guys deserved a long prison sentence.
@jasinere35
@jasinere35 11 ай бұрын
5 years was a bit of a kick in the teeth especially since they caused the crash they should have both got sentenced & being more than 5 years aswell
@ongbonga9025
@ongbonga9025 11 ай бұрын
@@jasinere35 I'm pretty sure they'd get closer to 10 years here in the UK where it would be manslaughter. Maybe with good behaviour they'd serve closer to 5 years in the end anyway, but given the criminal negligence and the scale of the disaster, it clearly justifies maximum sentence. And the idea of one getting off scot free so he can secure the conviction of the other, that's just horrendous. Both are equally guilty and should be treated as such.
@reddwarfer999
@reddwarfer999 11 ай бұрын
@ongbonga9025 I would have sacked you in an instant for that.
@ongbonga9025
@ongbonga9025 11 ай бұрын
@@reddwarfer999 You'd have sacked me for not getting high? You sound like a great boss.
@reddwarfer999
@reddwarfer999 11 ай бұрын
@@ongbonga9025 I would have sacked you for getting high working in the pub and as a projectionist, just as you said you did.
@andrewostman3135
@andrewostman3135 11 ай бұрын
After 20 years in maryland, i have gone from pronouncing it as mary-land to mer-i-lan
@chrisdoyon7556
@chrisdoyon7556 11 ай бұрын
Had you been born there, you could make the final step to ‘merlin’
@andrewostman3135
@andrewostman3135 11 ай бұрын
@@chrisdoyon7556 haha actually it is very similar... I say them both out loud and they sound the same. I've been here long enough I say hon... Idk when I started
@andrewostman3135
@andrewostman3135 11 ай бұрын
@@chrisdoyon7556 the -i- to me is soft. No pause so more like merilan said fast
@Eidolon1andOnly
@Eidolon1andOnly 11 ай бұрын
Just to let non-Americans know, the Y in _Maryland_ is pronounced more like the Y in _physics._
@classicmicroscopy9398
@classicmicroscopy9398 11 ай бұрын
Driving a car under the influence is insanely reckless and downright evil but driving a train with hundreds of people under the influence? Absolutely psychopathic.
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 11 ай бұрын
He was swerving all over the place!
@blocknight1
@blocknight1 11 ай бұрын
It was the three-locomotive train that had the stoned crew, not the passenger train.
@SlapthePissouttayew
@SlapthePissouttayew 11 ай бұрын
He wasn't driving a train with hundreds of people. The one driving the Amtrak train (who was sober) was killed in the crash. The Conrail engineer was the one who caused this tragedy.
@johncholmes643
@johncholmes643 11 ай бұрын
Rookie Amateur
@classicmicroscopy9398
@classicmicroscopy9398 11 ай бұрын
@@pootispiker2866 Lol! XD
@de-fault_de-fault
@de-fault_de-fault 11 ай бұрын
For what it’s worth the Colonial is one of dozens of named services that were mainly confined to the NEC (with some extending beyond Washington and/or branching off to Springfield instead of Boston) that are still in the timetable, just without names. They collectively came to be called Northeast Direct services in the ‘90s, then (bizarrely) Acela Regional, looking to capitalize on the popularity of the then-new Acela train sets that were providing the fast, former Metroliner services even though these services did not use those trains. Then they were just called Regionals, and more recently Northeast Regionals.
@k.c1126
@k.c1126 11 ай бұрын
Wow. I vaguely remember hearing about this crash when it happened - but didn't realize that it was determined to have been caused by the engineer of the freight train.... What a grim existence to wake up every morning knowing you had killed 16 people and injured dozens of others for a quick high...
@jakethomason5495
@jakethomason5495 11 ай бұрын
mary-land sounds kinda funny to americans.
@joshuaevans5983
@joshuaevans5983 11 ай бұрын
We’ll done. Interesting to hear it pronounced Mary-land. On this side of the pond most people would say something like Mare-ih-lund.
@mrechannel2023
@mrechannel2023 11 ай бұрын
Always great, thorough docs. FYI: Maryland ~ 'MEHR-uh-lund'
@sophierobinson2738
@sophierobinson2738 11 ай бұрын
Down here in the south, we say “Mare lund”. It’s generally too hot to bother with that middle syllable
@guerndtX
@guerndtX 11 ай бұрын
Take out the uh, don’t need it. It’s just “merh-lund”
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact: as this collision happened, the railroad trade unions were suing the government to prevent drug and alcohol testing of railway employees who had caused accidents. The case, Skinner v. Railway Labor Executives Assn., was as the Supreme Court when the accident happened.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact, it was common at the time. Even drunk driving wasn’t taken seriously. By the way, drug and alcohol testing? I think you mean drug testing. Do you think engineers have to go through a breathalyzer before starting shift?
@thelogicaldanger
@thelogicaldanger 11 ай бұрын
@@neilkurzman4907 alcohol is one of the drug tested for in drug testing.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 11 ай бұрын
@@thelogicaldanger And how would alcohol testing work? You’d literally have to show up for work drunk to fail it. Other recreational drugs stay in your system for up to a month. And can affect your system for days after you’ve taken it. Not so with alcohol
@thelogicaldanger
@thelogicaldanger 11 ай бұрын
@@neilkurzman4907 What are you talking about? The standard drug testing is urine, and if someone is drunk, then alcohol metabolites will be in the urine, just like the metabolites for all the other drugs they test for. Random drug testing of course doesn't catch everyone, but it will catch the people who are consistently abusing.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 11 ай бұрын
@@thelogicaldanger If you had alcohol the night before, there is absolutely no regulation, saying that’s a problem. You could do a blood alcohol test or a breathalyzer.
@ceciliaSF-TX
@ceciliaSF-TX 11 ай бұрын
It took a long time for this country to take ‘drinking on the job’ serious. This is in ‘87, likely somebody knew of the issue & just looked the other way. The ‘good ole boy’ thing is still going on today!
@tinymittensdesign
@tinymittensdesign 11 ай бұрын
My dad works with CP rail monitoring signils. Drivers are supposed to check in at certain points, and if they don't or if they don't do the proper signal, he's supposed to call them up and be like "hey what's up" or if there is a malfunction, drivers can call him to troubleshoot.
@mspetersen
@mspetersen 11 ай бұрын
Ricky Gates is a name known to most railroaders of that time period. If anything positive came out of this, drug & alcohol abuse among railroad employees was taken seriously once Federal testing was mandated. Unfortunately younger employees aren't aware of this and don't grasp this is why railroads now drug test. Some companies claim they do, but railroads actually do it as it mandated.
@ressljs
@ressljs 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad he got himself turned around and works to do good, but it surprises me that engineers responsible for fatal crashes aren't hit with harsher penalties. If you killed 16 people due to drunk/high driving, you'd be in much worse trouble. And that Bostian guy who sent his train flying off the tracks in 2015, killing eight, injuring well over 100 and had no explanation why was completely let off. I don't mean to sound out for blood, but I don't see how you can do something like that, say "stuff happens," and just walk away.
@mspetersen
@mspetersen 11 ай бұрын
@@ressljs The FRA has no authority over criminal matters. That’s up to the discretion of the local DA and few seem willing to pursue that avenue. Not the first time a crew member has been responsible for a someone’s death from negligence and wasn’t held accountable criminally. What most train crew don’t realize is that their Union Dues don’t cover criminal matters. If you were to get charged your on your own financially.
@patriciamariemitchel
@patriciamariemitchel 11 ай бұрын
I thought it was horrendous that he only served 4 years for that, until it was mentioned that he came clean and became a counselor. ☑️
@mikepalmer1971
@mikepalmer1971 11 ай бұрын
How does that absolve him of his crime?
@patriciamariemitchel
@patriciamariemitchel 11 ай бұрын
@@mikepalmer1971, it doesn't absolve him. But isn't the purpose of incarceration partly for rehabilitation?
@mikepalmer1971
@mikepalmer1971 11 ай бұрын
There is such a thing as punishment as well. He killed many people and ruined many families. Serving a short sentence means nothing. He is lucky someone has not avenged their lost family members.
@goonmaster9000
@goonmaster9000 10 ай бұрын
@@patriciamariemitchel I wonder if youd feel the same way if you were on that train, or if one of your loved ones died in the incident This was a failure of justice - guy should have been locked up for life, simple as that
@MilesL.auto-train4013
@MilesL.auto-train4013 9 ай бұрын
​@@goonmaster9000 This is the second most asinine comment I've read so far. He was let out for good behavior and did everything he possibly could to atone for his sins, and is doing it quite well actually. If he had shown no remorse, then it would be a different story. But he paid for his consequences and learned from them, and is actively helping to improve his and other's lives. You pretend that personal growth is non-existent. Your cruelty is absurd.
@bluegreenglue6565
@bluegreenglue6565 11 ай бұрын
Folly and tragedy, once again hand in hand. As a citizen of the Western half of the U.S., though, I have to say a whole lot of us would be thrilled to have such a useful network of railroad transport. We've got mile-long trains full of coal or cattle, but no human transportation by rail outside of tourist hops or city-specific commuter lines.
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 11 ай бұрын
Northeast Corridor is very much an example of while far from world class that the USA can do trains and that Americans will use them if they are frequent. Sadly those mile long trains are the problem, The freight RRs own the tracks and by law Amtrak is supposed to have full priority but the freight RRs found a loophole. Make the trains too long to fit on a siding and then they dont have to side and since the feds never regulated train length the passenger trains get the short straw.
@davidmanley9437
@davidmanley9437 11 ай бұрын
I remember hearing of this when it happened. It is sad it takes a disaster sometimes to catch people's attention. I am glad that he changed his life and went on,and is helping with the problem now instead of adding to it
@HeronCoyote1234
@HeronCoyote1234 11 ай бұрын
Seems to me it always takes a disaster to change things.
@justandy333
@justandy333 11 ай бұрын
Reminds me of a line in a film, (I can't remember which film). "You can't just tap someone on their shoulder to get their attention. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer." or words to that effect. Its kinda true, Only a big disaster will make people sit up and listen. As they say most safety protocols are written in blood.
@thomasgirty6397
@thomasgirty6397 10 ай бұрын
unions need their power reduced so people who would otherwise be fired can be!!! protecting a drug or booze addict is an accident waiting to happen.
@blazingfire8794
@blazingfire8794 11 ай бұрын
I grew up a couple of miles from where this happened and currently live a couple of miles from where it happened. One of my neighbors was a paramedic and his wife was a qualified medical personnel as well, they spent a lot of time there trying to help with saving people and clean up.
@PFBM86
@PFBM86 11 ай бұрын
Your British-y pronunciation of Maryland is kinda funny lol. It's pronounced more like "Mare-Uh-Lind"
@nancyjones6780
@nancyjones6780 11 ай бұрын
I love Tuesday mornings when one of my favorite channels uploads like clockwork ❤❤❤
@1992marigold
@1992marigold 11 ай бұрын
Another excellent video. I'd like to see an episode covering the Youngstown Florida train derailment of 1978. A chlorine gas leak in the middle of s foggy night.
@MythicalRedFox
@MythicalRedFox 11 ай бұрын
Small note, but the way us Marylanders pronounce it is "Mar-eh-land," rather than "Mary land" (despite it admittedly being spelled that way lol).
@bethbruce7440
@bethbruce7440 11 ай бұрын
A video suggestion: the Frank slide disaster from 1903 in Alberta, Canada. Been looking all over for information & well done videos about it and it's unfortunate there aren't many.
@philipmorris4843
@philipmorris4843 11 ай бұрын
Remember this when it happened. This was the start of drug testing for all types of occupations. I had a commercial driver license and remember people losing jobs because they smoked off the job and sometimes days before.
@KansasHempMan
@KansasHempMan 11 ай бұрын
As an active user of cannabis, I'm ashamed and embarrassed that these men would consider smoking while on the job. This is a crucial job. Though congressional mandated drug testing is not appropriate and bad.
@liesl7617
@liesl7617 11 ай бұрын
This is the incident which started my life long interest in disasters. It was featured in Readers Digest, which my grandparents received monthly, and once I read this I went through their RD back catalogue and read up on other disasters, such as the Herald of Free Enterprise. These stories always made me curious about what lessons were learned and how has it made life safer for others. I think it also gave me that 'always look for an exit' mentality that I still have today. Great coverage, as always!
@j3suisd3
@j3suisd3 10 ай бұрын
"Drama in Real Life" ... some were astinishingly gory 🤕
@marc-andreservant201
@marc-andreservant201 11 ай бұрын
In Canada marijuana is legal. It is still a serious crime to drive or operate heavy machinery while under the influence (the sentencing range is identical to alcohol DUI). It does affect your concentration and situational awareness, which is deadly when driving a multi-ton steel box at 100km/h.
@mklaebel
@mklaebel 11 ай бұрын
People seem to not understand this. Legalized doesn't mean legal in every circumstance.
@LordWiggle
@LordWiggle 11 ай бұрын
So when you commit a crime with someone else, whee you're equally responsible, you just tell on the other one and are free to go? How?!? That's so stupid, how corrupt is the system?
@sebastianjoseph2828
@sebastianjoseph2828 11 ай бұрын
Great episode as always. I live in Maryland and take trains along the NEC fairly often- usually the Penn Line MARC trains to Washington but I've done the train trip to Boston, NYC and Philly a few times. Train travel is a breeze for convenience when you live near a station, and glad it's only gotten safer. One nitpick though: the state is pronounced "MAIR-ih-land" with the Y making a soft sound like in the word "it" or "if", not like the name Mary.
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 11 ай бұрын
I took the Acela to Boston once from Philly and yeah the train beats the crap out of driving or the TSA rectal exam at PHL.
@BrazenShield
@BrazenShield 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the train operator was high but why was the LAST emergency stop alert close enough to the switch the train couldn’t stop in time? Shouldn’t the minimum emergency stop distance have been far enough that they could, idk, /actually/ stop before the switch? Maybe I’m overthinking it :(
@lisaholman2019
@lisaholman2019 11 ай бұрын
And did they find out who messed upthe safety equipment in the cab? Someone disconnected the signal alarms and it wasnt the train engineers.
@ripvanwinkle2002
@ripvanwinkle2002 11 ай бұрын
just an aside.. in the USA "Maryland" ISNT pronounced "Mary Land" its pronounced like Mare ( horse), a, Lend. "mare a lend" every time you say Mary Land i cringe so hard..
@americanviking9384
@americanviking9384 11 ай бұрын
Hello insomniac gang 😏
@AverageOhioGamer
@AverageOhioGamer 11 ай бұрын
5:22 am here
@TheGhoulishWeeb01kenzie
@TheGhoulishWeeb01kenzie 11 ай бұрын
Hello 😂
@n40tom
@n40tom 11 ай бұрын
Good morning there Blue Eyes. Wishing you a pleasant day 😊
@aiedenoldstien9751
@aiedenoldstien9751 11 ай бұрын
I feel called out here XD.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 11 ай бұрын
Hey! It's the afternoon here! 😂
@colettechauvin6464
@colettechauvin6464 11 ай бұрын
Allô, if i may ask you to make a vidio about the Lake Mégantic in the province of Québec Canada. Was a real and still in our memories from the desaster. Thank you so much for all your work.
@randydelaney7053
@randydelaney7053 11 ай бұрын
Both weed and Alcohol slow down reaction times they are sedatives. If they were using them they are totally at fault. Not only was their judgement impaired but they're ability to react was also impaired. However drug testing should have been done by the company before they got on the train or were certified to drive a train in the first place. Totally Not qualified. R.I.P to those killed. So preventable and sad.
@annegoodreau4925
@annegoodreau4925 11 ай бұрын
Does it seem to anyone else that a lot of these disasters happen right around the holidays - Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve, etc.? Is there a tendency for more negligence then? Or do we remember those better because it is so poignant when the passengers never get home for Christmas or see the new year they've just been celebrating?
@michael7054
@michael7054 11 ай бұрын
The 2004 Mega Tsunami happened around Christmas too.
@PANZERFAUST322
@PANZERFAUST322 11 ай бұрын
Maybe it's a combination of a lot of people traveling, occasionally companies overbooking to make more money and we remember tragedies associated with big events a lot more. In any case it's very tragic to think about being in a mindset of getting to enjoy life only to have it cut short by factors beyond one's control.
@matthew.m.stevick
@matthew.m.stevick 11 ай бұрын
I watch this channels video within hours of every upload and have been subscribed since it first started during Covid. I enjoy it a lot, thanks the the creator. I really like the narrators voice and cadence.
@cynthiatolman326
@cynthiatolman326 11 ай бұрын
I don't believe the second man should have walked, he was also responsible. As with commercial truck drivers, pilots and anyone who controls either people themselves or machinery that can cause serious harm to the public, random testing for drugs and alcohol in itself is a deterrent.
@FormulaGuppy
@FormulaGuppy 11 ай бұрын
I love fascinating horror. I doubt you read these but you’ve helped a broken mind heal over the past few years xx
@catreader9733
@catreader9733 11 ай бұрын
I have no connection with this channel, but I read your comment , and I am pleased to hear you are healing. It can be a long journey, but the start is the most important achievement. I wish for you continued progress.
@rockets4kids
@rockets4kids 11 ай бұрын
This is like that guy who passes you and then slams on the brakes...
@anonemous1046
@anonemous1046 7 ай бұрын
Aside from corporate liability another theme of Fascinating Horror's videos is safety rules are written in blood.
@MrBruinman86
@MrBruinman86 11 ай бұрын
16 deaths is amazingly low considering the size and speed of the trains.
@lisadolan689
@lisadolan689 11 ай бұрын
I was on the outbound that crashed at Granville in Sydney Australia. Ptsd stopped about a decade after the incident. Still the worst train accident in Australian history
@PApro
@PApro 11 ай бұрын
Leave it to Conrail...
@k.c1126
@k.c1126 11 ай бұрын
They were involved in a lot of the rail crashes of the time...
@805Peej
@805Peej 11 ай бұрын
Great video, as always. Can you cover the Chatsworth Amtrak crash of 2008?
@sallykohorst8803
@sallykohorst8803 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this story and can't imagine going 105 miles an hour and hitting another train head on. So horrible the way the cars all buckled up. RIP THE ONES WHO DID NOT SURVIVE.. i really love train travel.
@danielabackstrom
@danielabackstrom 11 ай бұрын
They were travelling in the same direction
@MaryDoyle-xl2ri
@MaryDoyle-xl2ri 11 ай бұрын
🙏🙏❤️
@brenlane9847
@brenlane9847 11 ай бұрын
I work for a state workers compensation company. This year in conjunction with our Safety Services team we're going to run Fascinating Horror episodes via Zoom, and in the office. I can't think of a more devilish way for the industry to present work place accidents. P.S. To the narrator of this marvolus series, your voice sounds nearly identically to the actor, Harry Floyd, who played Viserys Targaryen in Game of Thrones. (Season 1)
@ericallen371
@ericallen371 11 ай бұрын
There was a deadly train crash in my city yesterday. It fell off an overpass crushing a truck.
@nancycurtis7315
@nancycurtis7315 11 ай бұрын
Thank you,. I had not heard about this. Greetings from Dimboola, in Victoria, Australia 🇦🇺.
@matthewheide4797
@matthewheide4797 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, AMTRAK here in Washington State is fairly popular, Seattle to Portland mostly. The high speed train that crashed in Nisqually WA was a Master Class on Operator Error.
@mickcollins1921
@mickcollins1921 11 ай бұрын
So, they held the stoner engineer accountable and he turned his life around. That's great. BUT, that crew didn't disable the lights and whistle. And that train certainly wasn't the only one that it was done to. I am guessing this had become a cultural thing with this company (at least, if not more broadly within the union) otherwise people would be correcting these bypassed safety features when they encountered them and there would have been investigations into who was doing it and measures in place to stop it. This wasn't a stoner/drunk who made a bad decision. This was a dangerous system created by a dangerous culture that a stoner/drunk wasn't sharp enough to overcome.
@my12spoonswithrose43
@my12spoonswithrose43 11 ай бұрын
Sadly there are still engineers who try to getting out of their job by disabling the dead man's switch.
@renneedwards9826
@renneedwards9826 11 ай бұрын
I was only 5 years old when this horrible accident happened. I always loved seeing the Amtrak Trains and still do. I’m glad Justice was served and REGULATIONS were put into place. 💯👀💅🏾
@tremorsfan
@tremorsfan 11 ай бұрын
If you haven't done it, I would like to see you do an episode on the CSX 8888 runaway train incident.
@tylerbeltran8782
@tylerbeltran8782 11 ай бұрын
That was well done. Do you think you could also do a video on the 2009 DC metro crash?
@x77punk77x
@x77punk77x 11 ай бұрын
^Seconding
@mixedboi
@mixedboi 9 ай бұрын
Smoke weed everyday they said.
@jameskubajak8489
@jameskubajak8489 8 ай бұрын
Because of this crash, Conrail from that point to it's 1999 split pulled most of their freight trains of the NEC. Because of this move, the Potomac Yard (across the Potomac River from DC) became a victim of this shift. Known locally as the POT Yard, it's services were no longer needed. Today, DC Metro has a station stop there to remind people what was once there!😔
@anacsadder
@anacsadder 11 ай бұрын
It's weird that someone who was caught driving their car drunk multiple times could be allowed to keep driving a train. It's not something like shoplifting that's totally unrelated to performing his job. It's a history of making reckless decisions while driving.
@danc3488
@danc3488 10 ай бұрын
Only served 4 years for killing 16 people and recklessly endangering the rest while under the influence. Really... When I became a volunteer firefighter in 2000, we went over the rescue operations of this crash. I remember being horrified by the pictures and videos of this. This crash led to a lot of rescue tool companies like Holmatro (aka Jaws of Life) to start designing tools that were capable of cutting into the heavy stainless steel of railcars. Today, many of these tools apply well over 60,000 pounds of hydraulic cutting and spreading pressure, and battery-powered saws contain heavy metal cutting blades capable of breaking through the steel and the heavy glass windows. Rescue procedures for rail accidents have greatly changed in the last 30+ years. Sadly, as often happens in emergency services, people have to die for something to effectively change.
@le4858
@le4858 9 ай бұрын
I grew up a mile from the crash site, I remember it well. My old neighbor used to Ricky Gates speaking at AA meetings frequently in nearby Essex. My understanding is that this incident not only ushered in random drug testing for railway workers but also police and fire.
@AnthonyRusso93
@AnthonyRusso93 11 ай бұрын
I know that is how Maryland should be pronounced however like thousands of English words especially common amoung the proper nouns of political geographic terms the proper pronunciation of Maryland Is Mæyr'l-ïnd
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I remember they did anti-drug commercial featuring this disaster.
@AH-sp8vi
@AH-sp8vi 11 ай бұрын
Ah yes that time of the week. Thank you FH!
@skyden24195
@skyden24195 11 ай бұрын
I would like to point out that while it is true that smoking cannabis can absolutely impair the judgement of persons, to varying degrees dependent upon the individual and the amount being ingested, immediately after being ingested, there is an issue with drug testing anyone who has ever smoked or otherwise ingested cannabis substances. The issue can be seen when compared to alcohol consumption, biological effect(s) and testing. While both substance (alcohol and cannabis) will have immediate effects on a person's mentality, the human body will consequently immediately begin processes to expel the actual alcohol content which the body regards as poisonous/harmful to the body. However, the THC found in cannabis is not regarded and treated in equal manner. THC is, in actuality, beneficial to the body in varying ways, therefore is not immediately expelled. Instead, any (excess) THC that is obtained from the ingested cannabis is stored within fat cells of the body for future use. This stored THC content can remain in the body for several days to weeks depending on how much is ingested and stored. The excess THC is typically released during high physical activities, acting as something of a pain reliever, affecting the body but not the mind. It is all too often this stored THC which is detected in "drug-tests" on individuals who may have ingested cannabis long before the test is conducted; the THC being of no verifiable threat to the person's mental awareness or overall state of being.
@w.randyhoffman1204
@w.randyhoffman1204 11 ай бұрын
Just FYI, the "y" and second "a" in "Maryland" have turned into schwas over the years, so it's pronounced more like "Mare-uh-lund" than "Mary-land".
@sophierobinson2738
@sophierobinson2738 11 ай бұрын
“Good morning, America, how are you? Say don’t you know me? I’m your native son. I’m the train they call the City of New Orleans. I’ll be gone 500 miles before the day is done.”
@deadreaver666
@deadreaver666 11 ай бұрын
Love your videos, this included. Dont say it like "Mary Land" say it more like "Maralind"
@trevorregay9283
@trevorregay9283 11 ай бұрын
Curious though.......had the Conrail train NOT stopped, would there have been an accident???
@thomasgirty6397
@thomasgirty6397 10 ай бұрын
the sad thing is employees regularly disable safety equipment on ALL jobs. and lazy or scared of the unions supervisors look the other way. then employees complain when hurt.
@ladysnark3396
@ladysnark3396 11 ай бұрын
Just a small quibble, Good Sir! It’s pronounced, “Mare-lind.” Sincerely, A Marylander
@kimjohnson7818
@kimjohnson7818 7 ай бұрын
I was supposed to take this train but I overslept and planned to take the next train. When we got to the New Carrollton station they would not tell us what happened. They just said the track was closed and we could take a very long bus ride to NYC. We went back to a restaurant/bar in Annapolis and my ride had a brother driving up to NY that night. When we walked into the bar everyone was wide eyed and said my parents had been calling to see if anyone knew if I had been on the train. I had recently moved to NYC and was visiting my family home and friends in and near Annapolis. I had work. downtown the next morning. My parents were gone on a ski trip and were very worried.
@kettle_of_chris
@kettle_of_chris 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Fascinating Horror, for all that you do!
@MaryDoyle-xl2ri
@MaryDoyle-xl2ri 11 ай бұрын
👍👍❤️
@scottyerkes1867
@scottyerkes1867 11 ай бұрын
Alchohol and cannabis impairs anyone and should be avoided when operating any vehicles. Safety checks were not performed and signals were ignored. A tragedy that couid have been avoided.
@188tate
@188tate 11 ай бұрын
It’s pronounced maraland not Mary Land lol! Great videos guys, keep up the good work!!!
@DDE_ADDICT
@DDE_ADDICT 11 ай бұрын
I like this channel. I wish he posted more often.
@esta8651
@esta8651 11 ай бұрын
Yeah!
@thelogicaldanger
@thelogicaldanger 11 ай бұрын
It takes a lot of time to do quality posts. I prefer quality over quantity.
@aravenlunatic9028
@aravenlunatic9028 10 ай бұрын
Industry wide safety standards never change until catastrophic tragedy forces alterations to or the implementation of improved procedures. The health,safety, and lives of innocent people aren't as important as companies' reputations and profit margins.
@richardwartsbaugh5553
@richardwartsbaugh5553 11 ай бұрын
Great content as always. Any chance you could do a vid about non-fatal accidents but with lots of injured? Sometime the lack of a fatality makes bad things seem better than they were.
@atzend8569
@atzend8569 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, good on the engineer for owning up to his negligence and his fault in this tragedy, and then redirecting his time toward speaking out against substance abuse. I'm sure that took a lot of guts and a lot of soul-searching. It's horrible that it took such a tragic event like this for him to wake up to his problems but the fact that he served his time, admitted his fault, and went on to try and help others shows that his is a classic case of "good person who made bad decisions".
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