The "Cheap 'n Ugly" £159 / $201 Budget Gaming PC

[@yobama6097]

Whenever I read PC specifications I always have this man's voice stuck in my head.

[@michael04__806]

um how

[@AunknownMan]

Hello and wuuellcomm

[@dynamoarts9975]

@Axey Official 😂😂😂

[@vargaroli9421]

His name is Stephen😀

[@thomasrayner5301]

Me: hears random gaming in hd's voice My Brain: ah, a core memory

[@fredretter9780]

Built my friend a pic for a strict £200 budget. Ended up with an i5 2500k, 16gb of ram and a gtx 970, but took a lot of shopping around :)

[@MrYedige]

Fred Retter nice! And you can upgrade it up to 3770k down the line.

[@YizusCrist]

What was the price of every component? Or at least the GPU and CPU

[@MrYedige]

@@tigercat418 what?

[@Elenrai]

@@MrYedige Too much 4chan/reddit/gooning is my guess. Ignore the sewer goblin, do not feed it, do not put your hand near its mouth, and bring axe body spray to neutralize the pungent stink of Ammonia.

[@r_se]

@@tigercat418 he's probably not even black judging by his name

[@susternak]

I was thinking that it's about time to upload, and behold! Even better is that it's a budget gaming pc review, those are my favorite!

[@susternak]

@Jay Arre it's 1:36 AM and i don't understand what you're saying Sorry for the inconvenience

[@sebastian_h]

Are you sure its not a blue LED fan? ;)

[@markhudson9913]

Sebastian H Lol maybe its a blue red green blue fan

[@wolfshanze5980]

That just stood out at me when he said "Blue RGB fan"... I thought the exact same thing as you.

[@dylantillman4895]

at least we know he doesn't script his videos and is more real than some on this platform.

[@sebastian_h]

@Vineet V U I dont know what to say about this...

[@wolfshanze5980]

@@sebastian_h maybe it was an RGB fan and he chose to program the fan to blue-only...

[@ShopNo2Vn]

gamibng pc

[@daton3630]

g a m i b n g

[@SunburnOmori]

Gamibng

[@gdforge9506]

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[@jaytnacks]

Gangbanging pc...

[@jmlauraya4597]

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[@b1ismissingjr]

Hi Steve! I just wanted to tell you that I like watching your videos when I have anxiety and it really helps get me out of some bad headspaces. I love how consistent your delivery is and the subject matter is fascinating to me of course. Thank you for everything you do!

[@Jkapricorn]

Is your icon Ellis from Left 4 Dead?

[@faolor6468]

Learning about PC's is relaxing

[@tfgward7889]

64GB SSDs are hardly cheaper than 120GB SSDs by now

[@Elenrai]

Ive seen old 3,5 " SATA SSDs with 64GB for over 300 USD a few months ago... I cannot for the life of me figure out WHY that is the case, but it is!

[@MrMosebysLobby]

and nvme intels are under 100 and samsung 2tb ssds under 150 yer some are over 300 like you said I dont get it

[@avolpe734]

@@MrMosebysLobby It's due to the longevity of the RAM chips, see ExplainingComputing channel

[@matthewl5434]

@@Elenrai maybe they're seen as vintage/collector item?

[@domenicobrindisi1059]

RGinHD in 2017: An SSD on my personal rig just doesn't make sense to me, an HDD is cheaper and it's fast enough for me anyway. RGinHD in 2019:

[@solarstrike33]

Once you go SSD, you can’t go back.

[@poiiihy]

hdd fast enough in 2017? hell no

[@jcp_247]

HOW IS THAT UGLY!!? That's beautiful, well done!!!

[@expert2012]

U S 3 B

[@1stprince1]

He's an android I knew it!!

[@chillyman7340]

For 960 it's doing very very well. I like the fact that this build is so cheap great vid man.

[@abishkarjungshah4539]

Its doing surprising better than my laptop's 960m 4gb card. I have an i5 6500 and 8 gigs

[@TheMasterOfSafari]

RyuN the 960M is like 30-40% slower if I recall correctly

[@abishkarjungshah4539]

@@TheMasterOfSafari apparently it is 100% slower according to gpu benchmarks 😭

[@PatGamingApasStyle]

0:31 must be the new bird star of this channel. Dave has been replaced.

[@czbrat]

this "new" bird has been around for a while

[@Talondrone]

No. don't even. no.

[@axevich]

F for the Seagull

[@WarcosTec]

@@axevich f in the chat

[@blisterbrain]

One bird for indoor use, one for the garden. Like slippers and Wellies.

[@WouterVerbruggen]

Damn those older i5s are really getting cheap nowadays

[@GatorTomboy]

I love your channel and how casual and welcoming it feels. Most the time I watch out of curiosity, but learn something new pretty much every video. Thank you and I hope your eye sight stays with you as long as possible!

[@joeyhillers9460]

Nice. Recently got my old dc7900 back, popped in a r5-240, and probably going to flip for 50

[@MrGamers122]

I have a similar rig with a i5 2400 and an RX560 2GB....Suprisingly Metro Exodus can run at 1080p on Medium settings with about 40fps on average....Seriously this is a solid build for the money.

[@ozgurkanada]

This is not ugly, this pc is amazing ! Bare bone ❤

[@itslonson391]

Randomly clicked on your video while falling asleep and your bird scared the shit out of me lmao

[@dashdashdash_]

sleep tight n word

[@itsTyrion]

like *Fortni-* **angry bird noises**

[@yourlocaldavid6656]

Bought an old am3+ board for £13 and then slapped in an fx 8300 for £40 added an gtx 970 OEM version for £57 and then an VS 450w PSU £20 and 8gb 1866 MHz ram for £20 and an 120gb ssd + 500gb HDD for combined price of £30, and the icing on the cake is an Cit f3 white case for £27.

[@jayray7449]

I've been using an I5 4690K and a GTX 960 4gb, 1tb hdd and 8gb ram, for 3 years. This PC can literally play all 200 games on my steam, From Arma 3 to Squad and Escape From Tarkov, all demanding games. I get great FPS with Medium/High settings 60fps. The 960 is still a beat card for it's price. I picked up the rig for £300, bought a £30 1070p monitor (Worth 90) from Gum Tree, and i've over the years got a really nice keyboard (K55 corsair) and decent mouse (Zowie FK1). In 3 days i'm building my first beast PC. Ryzen 7 2700X, Vega 56, 16gb ram, 2tb hdd, 1tb SSD. I can't wait The 960 is still a decent card even now

[@floydlooney6837]

your "old" system is great

[@jackfaarmer]

I had an old Dell Inspiron 550 with the same exact specs. I threw in the same GTX 960 and had literally the same performance. It's a shame it quit on me a few months ago, it was such a solid little computer.

[@jamesbeaupry9207]

I have one that I'm about to throw an AM4 mobo and an Athlon 200GE into along with 8GBb of RAM and an M.2 SSD. What blew out on it? Edit: I actually have a 530

[@jackfaarmer]

@@jamesbeaupry9207 I had some driver issues that warranted a reinstall of windows. didn't want to deal with it and was contemplating upgrading anyways, so I did lmao

[@jamesbeaupry9207]

Jack Farmer Ah that sucks. The 530 is too ancient to really do anything with so all I'm using it for is it's case, hdd, PSU, disk drive, and it's fans. Saves me about $100, and I'll eventually upgrade the rest

[@danyyilbelousov1727]

Man I love your content, learning so much recently. Could you please review the asus x570zd-dm175t as I feel its very bang for your buck. Thanks

[@Collymillad]

My brother went on about SSDs for about 2 years and I didn't take much notice. I got a 1TB SSD for £80 about 3 months ago - I will never use a mechanical drive again, the difference is insane.

[@Agownsrs2]

This guys voice is so pleasant. Makes you feel like he's your best buddy from high school.

[@themistoclesnelson2163]

I would just like to say, I love the efficiency of your videos. Your videos are only 5-10 minutes but they pack so much content. I've seen similar videos on other channels and they just fluff it up with crap and ad opportunities. I will be a loyal subscriber forever! Thanks for the awesome content!

[@cata_s2020]

Love you channel and the budget or cheap PC you build ,keep up the great work and videos

[@yami564]

I love coming home from work at 3am and watching one or two of your videos.

[@zenr3673]

Awesome m8 I been a technical support engineer for 20 years and I still enjoy your videos and like u I love budget and helping friends and family not every one can have the latest so it's great what u are doing and also it's nice to bring new life to an old system and yes CeX is a funny place they have often sent me what was not advise lol they ok at taking it back saying we got to test it first and I'm like I did not even use it it's just the wrong one and there like we just have to test it I find that strange when u don't open it but I can understand there's a lot of scammers out there

[@francoisfritz198]

sbu 0.3 ports are amanzing, you should try this.

[@doobasaurus]

That's how my pc looked before I upgraded minus the GPU. I had a I3 2130 and integrated gpu lol

[@dailydoseofeverything7141]

It's not ugly it's just in its metamorphosis

[@Gunzee]

I was really close to building something really similar to this. Only issue is finding 1155 mobos not being sold for silly money. I might have to look into this model. To be honest I have even more reason to sit on the fence now. My bro bought a ps4 pro with nearly a dozen games and I got a really cheap switch with 4 top titles Zelda, mario, dbz and m.kart.

[@brandonupchurch7628]

My favority cheap 1155 CPU is the Xeon E3 1225 , it's equivalent to an i5 2400 but has a faster IGP great for when you're building a facebook and email machine for someone that's not going to be gaming. I also have a tendency to buy unbuffered server ram you can get it fairly cheap and it works in desktops just fine just the extra ram chips for ECC isn't utilized. .

[@Tom2404]

I bought a box full of old computer parts yesterday for 20€. There was a socket 1155 board inside and it had a Xeon E3-1230v2 installed

[@lagginswag]

Score!!!

[@Ciuwas]

I honestly love this guys videos more than any youtuber. Hes really grown since ive subbed at his small number and I'm glad I got to see it

[@williamalexander4546]

You should do a budget lga 1356 6 core build :)

[@dannym1882]

Motherboards for them are usually quite expensive but you can get a nice deal if you look hard enough. I managed to get an Asus P6T, Xeon X5675 and 8gb RAM for £90 altogether.

[@antoine21839]

Important : CS:GO doesn't "auto select" these settings, it's just how they call their default values, it's always the same settings no matter what and it's garbage because for example the anisotropic filtering is set to a low setting while it barely impacts performance at all.

[@TwistedApex]

I love so much how he goes through with his mistakes. Makes the video funny as

[@96blakstar]

Paid £40 for an i3-2120 with 6GB Ram 1TB. Paid £18 for an i5-2500 and £40 for a GTX 750. Now my pC run pubg lite on max in 60/70fps range

[@dhafidzakwanpratama5775]

Same spec but i use the 2400 one

[@Pikafys]

You can probably get at least a 290x for that price . Or a rx 470

[@TheRealFobican]

That would save you trouble with drivers if you use Linux instead of Windows as your OS on the PC.

[@Pikafys]

Tiger White the 470 is twice as good as the 960 at least , and the 290x isnt like that.

[@Pikafys]

Lmfaooo nvidia fanfuck

[@Pikafys]

Tiger White wait the rx 470 has temp issues ?? Talk the gtx 780ti vs the 290x

[@Pikafys]

Tiger White so your saying u will pay 80$ for a 960 and not an rx 570 even though the amd card has double the fps in games and double or quadruple the vram ?

[@filippe_kim]

I built a system for the exact same purpose and almost at the same budget, since my friend cant afford the latest setup. And yes, it took a while to shop for parts. i7 2600 + dell 4ram slot board + stock fan = $70 4x4gb corsair value stick 1600mhz = $30 gtx 1050 ti = $80 sandisk 240gb ssd = $15 corsair vs550 = $20 case 3intake/2exhaust fans = $20

[@No1crash]

Sweet little build. Like your review style, great stuff.

[@bluelobster56]

"you will have no problem playing CS:GO on this pc" Except for getting killed every 37 seconds! 🤣🤣🤣 Surprisingly good build, nice work 👍👍

[@Artemis_WR]

Well my actual gaming pc is a laptop with an i7 4510u (2 cores, 4 threads), 12gb ddr3 ram (1 stick of 8gb and 4gb soldered to the board, thanks asus), a geforce 840m, 64gb for boot, and a 500gb hdd for data.

[@RaimarLunardi]

that build in Brazil would still cost about 500 USD sad :(

[@williambarr7408]

Raimar Lunardi Absolutely loony import tax?

[@RaimarLunardi]

@@williambarr7408 Yes, also people don't have a concept that things get old and obsolete and should cost less then...

[@williambarr7408]

Raimar Lunardi Fuck sake mate, and I thought here was a piss rip for prices

[@dralenvan]

I build a somewhat upgraded version. Intel I5-2450P - 30.- Asus Strix GTX970 4GB - 70.- 16GB DDR3 1333mhz ram - 35.- Corsair VS550 - 40.- Works fine for the most part. Just transplanted my HP Elite 8200 SFF mobo to a case I drilled some holes in.

[@xbaumann]

No pc is ugly. Just different preferences. There are ugly people however.

[@xeon4308]

By your own logic nobody is ugly due to different preferences.

[@lestat305]

@Marek Tužák lies

[@TheSpotify95]

Nice review of a relatively affordable PC! Only thing I'd include is an external optical drive (for about £10) and an extra mechanical drive for storage (buy a Sky box for £10 or less, take it apart, and get yourself a 500GB HDD).

[@sowdersdidi7099]

Pretty Cool looking forward to building my first PC in a couple months. Once I get paid for my first job

[@dasauto7346]

Aww shit we got a new boi! What's your current plan for a build?

[@sowdersdidi7099]

@@dasauto7346 I was originally thinking about building a PC for 1000$ with a RTX 2080ti but I was way too optimistic when I rewatched the 48 minutes of gameplay of Cyberpunk 2077. I asked for jobs all arround my town but non of them called me back. But one but You get arround 200-300 dollars, but that's better than nothing. So I decided to do some research and I discovered that You could upgrade a Prebuilt system with like a GTX 1050ti or even a GTX 1070, for arround 300$ or even less. So I'm planning on doing that. Hope I'll be able to play Cyberpunk 2077 when it comes or even pre order it but I'm on a tight budget so We'll see. I'll keep you updated if You want.

[@IcebergGamingTop10s]

I used to flip PCs like this from time to time, the challenge was always finding well priced PSUs that had PCIE connectors.

[@ashrie.]

I gotta say, that case looks really sick. Better than more expensive alternatives

[@mesterak]

Thank you sir for another fine build and video. It’s great that you focus on performance and functionality instead of harping on aesthetics. To me most people stare at the screen and not at their PCs, so I think it’s fine to have a cheap and ugly computer as long as it delivers the performance you want.

[@m1kemyer5]

Recently started building a cheap pc for a friend similar to this pc, instead ive decided to use an e3 1230 4c 8t cpu for £28 and picked up an Asus turbo gtx 970 for £51 on an ebay auction, great pricing in my opinion, great video as well! :)

[@DemonStink]

I recommend the Gigabyte SSDs if you're on a budget. They have over twice the write endurance versus other cheap SSDs, and have higher IOPS performance, which makes a massive difference to operating speed. Cheap SSDs generally don't give you their IOPS rating cause they're always dreadfully slow and they muddy their performance numbers with their speedy but capacity limited caches. They're also developed and manufactured in Taiwan instead of China, and I can confirm they're of higher quality than most for the same price. I've been able to buy them cheapest on cclonline if anyone was interested.

[@theripper1125]

i just love this channel. every time a new vid comes out it instantly brightens my day. keep up the good work!

[@chokonma9951]

Well it makes me jealous

[@spacecy]

he'll get to 500k pretty soon!

[@Seth22087]

For RAM, general guideline is to go to support page of motherboard and check RAM compatibility list, those are supposed to be tested and supported on BIOS level. Meaning they will work out of the box, they will also do memory timings right as they should. Because unsupported modules might work, but not perform as well as they should, because motherboard did something silly during first boot, when it did memory training, to figure out timings. Second thing is CPU support, most of the sticks up to what CPU officially supports will usually work out of the box. For current Intel offering that is 2666Mhz, for AMD 2nd gen Ryzen 2933Mhz and 1st gen Ryzen 2666Mhz. Outside of that you are playing with silicon lottery. Like on Ryzen 2600, 2933Mhz stick will work, 3000Mhz is more like 99% to work, you really need terrible luck and after that, it slowly increases risk. Like my R5 2600X will have memory errors at 3200Mhz, even though sticks are 3200Mhz and motherboard support page states they are supported by motherboard, so I suspect memory controller in my CPU is just not cooperating. For storage, I highly advise anyone to get 256GB SSD. Even if it is just for Windows, Windows tends to get bloated over time, also programs and stuff start adding up and 64GB SSD will be bad experience. Especially nowdays when you can get 256GB SSD for 30USD. It is worth saving up for, even if you will add HDD latter. Though I would only pass on HDD if you are getting 1TB SSD. Like I had 512GB SSD and it was ok-ish experience, but it gets bit annoying when you have to do game shuffle between what you will remove and what to keep, so you could give newest purchase a try. Unless you really want to stick to one or two games and mainly eSports. Or if it is just browsing and video machine, in this case 64GB will do. But as gamer, I wasn't happy with my till I got 2nd SSD, so I have 512GB SSD I started with and 1TB SSD I got latter.

[@pepega1061]

wow early good video do another on original titan 6gb

[@squeakers27]

I'm happy to see this budget build after recently doing mine for a similar price. Really wanted to get the Intel i5s but they were very popular and I was always outbid on them so I am pleased to have a 970 and a FX 8350 with alot of other goodies on eBay for a similar price. Love your videos man and keep them coming :)

[@lagginswag]

Everyone hates on fx but It's honestly still doable, cheers from an 8320 owner. 🍻

[@baronmercury]

I love these builds... Shows that anyone can build a playable games

[@shortbreadhead]

great low end build mate. I'd be quite interested in seeing you do a similar build in the sense that you can get these kind of results WHILST streaming or using OBS. Obviously this is what some people will be looking for a gaming pc for, and at the lower end of the spectrum I was wondering what the absolute minimum to get good results would be

[@DeViLzzz2006]

The fact that you said this couldn't run Metro Exodus or run it well eh doesn't matter to me and some others as that game was utter trash. It is a series that needs to be taken over by real developers who know how to make the series more fun and get rid of the continued glitches in those games. As for that being a $200 US pc is that before they tack on all the shipping? I can't believe one could get a system like this so cheap. Also in regards to it running this well there are still many, many games that do not rely on more cores for better gaming and so I was not surprised at the good result. Also to get a psu of that quality in that cheap a build is darn amazing. Honestly wish I had this pc to build right now. I am in Canada though and with our dollar 1155 is still expensive to put together and many people around here try to sell things for too much. Anyway a good video .... Oh one more thing and that is I ran into an odd situation with a current game where it needs to be run off the main drive / boot drive and so I say still stick with spinning rust as you get better GB / $.

[@timmo7610]

So if I was to build this what would be a good upgrade path in the future?

[@bucketcrab8641]

70€ for a Gtx 960 is a crazy good deal in my opinion even if it's used

[@PaitVideo]

I just picked up a 970 for that price and see them even going for a lower sum

[@lilvodka7500]

Well , I've got mine for 50€

[@mxmobile5619]

I bought an optiplex 7010 mt and the person selling it didn’t know what was inside so he sold it for $30 why so cheap? Last owner never plugged the gpu in. What were the specs? I5-3470 16gb ram and a 1080ti with a Corsair 500w psu.

[@winyex]

Omg

[@turbofanlover]

My 960 is still hanging in there pretty nicely in 2019. :)

[@indiananupam5715]

Awesome video bro...Ur biggest fan from India🇬🇧❤🇮🇳🙏

[@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891]

I love this guy's Professional and Calming Voice, also his Cute Humor, what a Great Morning! Greetings Here from PH Builder Sir RGHD! =D

[@edge21str]

Man, I love these super budget builds. Despite having a PC that has far more CPU and GPU power, I'm still amazed at how good of an experience you can have on a very cheap PC.

[@ivanuremovic1199]

I actually have similar system like this one. I have i5 2300, 6GB of RAM (soon it will be 12GB), HD 7770, 500GB hard drive and 120GB SSD. I was also taking a look at GTX 960 or something like RX 460, since HD 7770 bottlenecks me the most here. But yeah, this PC still gets the job done, and I can play PUBG on it on low settings without an issue.

[@18idlesuggest]

I like how you put GTASA there, cha cha real smooth

[@bobzeepl]

OEM HP boards - with them you really need to watch out for compatibility. Happened to me twice already, fortunately the store took the memory back with no questions asked.

[@iMac9991]

"i didn't take french, i took spanish... don't remember a word of that either" same lmao

[@Matt08719801]

props on putting GTA San Andreas in the Benchmarks , true classic

[@beigebox1990]

I'll have to disagree on the 2GB vs 4GB 960. The 960 may not be powerful enough to take advantage of 4GBs, but it can use more than 2GBs as well. One of the reasons the 1050Ti consistently beats the 960 in reviews is because the 2GB 960 is always used instead of the 4GB version. My 970M 3GB is only slightly more powerful than the 960, and it can take advantage of the VRAM. Great video as always.

[@derekgalbraith1508]

That's the same make and model graphics card I have in my Plex media server for transcoding purposes. I like the look of that generation of Asus Strix cards. I got the 970 variant for a budget gaming PC I built for my flatmate as a Christmas present too.

[@TheRealFobican]

Looks like you found one of those OEM office machines turned into a gaming machine with a chassis swap to look more modern and appealing which does feel like a mismatch of old and new parts that is apparently very common to find floating around on the used market. Besides what a waste of CD reader input considering the lack of mounting at the front end.

[@mrmagoo-i2l]

I think you can damage your mobo if you put in the wrong ram. Something to do with voltage. Not the socket. That will damage it as well but it will cause a problem if you put the wrong type in. Don’t quote me on that though. I’m new to overclocking and I read that ram is a really tempremantal thing.

[@pierregrobbelaar9116]

I bought an ssd back in the day for my old fx 4170 so when i got myself my ryzen 5 2600 i got another one.Both are 120gb so i just raided them to make them 240gb and shes working like a charm

[@KadiusFTW]

You could theoretically get an r9 380 for cheaper than you got that 960 on ebay due to people getting rid of itx sapphire workstation cards. Not only is the r9 cheaper (just bought one for 50 usd) it performs slightly better.

[@cracklingice]

Intel boards are generally pretty good about memory compatibility, particularly after the first generation of a new standard. The first generation usually doesn't hit the best XMP overclocks, but supports everything JDEC for the most part. AMD on the other hand is pretty hit or miss on memory and the QVL is much more important.

[@vitfiser2603]

That is almost my friend's PC except that he has gtx 970. I feel bad for him because of that CPU.

[@floydlooney6837]

Well, it has a higher gigahertz rating than mine, so that's something. gold star.

[@kennedymoreiras3054]

IsntThisAStupidName Ivy bridge is at the end of its life, I would give it more than 2 year more. Since 6 cores became the new standard these older cpus are not performing up to spec anymore.

[@kennedymoreiras3054]

Yeah, the 960 is better than a 1050ti, no reason why it shouldn’t run modern AAA titles.

[@G22Pingo]

Your honesty is the best lmao

[@LTXwooshie]

My brother has this board in his system with an i5 2400 16gb ddr3, and a 1060 3gb and a 1 TB hdd. Built it a year ago for about $275

[@welshtechie6832]

Nice man! Got a local CeX open 7 days a week near me but their hardware stock is not cheap in the main. Got cheap PC games though. Like the build for the price just brilliant!!!

[@711jastin]

i have a secondary build from my old mining junk. It's a i3-3220 + GTX 1050Ti match. the cpu was actually from my mom's busted pc that only the ram and cpu survived. It's a perfect match imo.

[@robertt9342]

Much of the ram issues that people reference come from ddr2 era. I guess the vram will only affect the 960 in terms of reducing stutters and texture pop in, probably more so from game mods.

[@TheUltimateNoobHD]

That's a pretty expensive 960, you could snag an RX 570 (even 580 but pretty impossible) with that price if you're hunting

[@lagginswag]

Tru. And if ur even looking at a 960, get the 4gb. I snagged a 8gb nitro rx 480 around Xmas for 100$ and prices have even gotten better.

[@joshfrancis815]

Nice build

[@razorsz195]

Could you add a CB benchmark too and maybe firestrike? They were quite useful in older videos to compare to other CPUs

[@ItIsNot1984]

I did some testing with both the 2gb and 4gb 960's. I had both cards for a short time and intended to make a video comparison, but I lost the captures I made and had sold one of the cards off already. I saw about 7 to 10 fps boost while playing Prey which is significant. I saw only a few extra fps in Fallout 4 (maybe 3 to 5 fps at most). In Doom 2016 there was no difference at all. Almost no difference in tomb raider as well. Still, I think there has to be other games out there besides Prey that make the extra memory worthwhile. I just don't know what games those are.

[@nicotica]

Best tech yt out there!

[@Daniel_D_King]

I currently play csgo on a similar machine... acer 1155 mobo with a i5 2300, 16gb ddr3 1600, and an asus matrix platinum hd 7970 flashed to matrix r9 280x bios... runs beautifully at 1080p with 150fps average... a good upgrade from my a10 7860k... id never have believed a machine this old could run so well.

[@carosel43]

if you want a cheap and versatile case with good airflow check out the avp viper. brilliant little case for the money

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

80 bucks for a GTX 960... I saw one advertised last week - second hand - for about $250... what has the world come to?

[@pizzakeitto]

Why not an rx 570 or similar?

[@guywhoknows]

I may add to this as I got to the bit on the HDD / SDD.... Right, If you look at your board, you have a P6, and you have SATA ports, and they should be 3 and 2. which will be in the manual as color will say which is which. Now, that Config of boot and load times is one of the big issues, and the processor isn't too bad, however if you run a RAID 0 for two smaller drives ( best value) then you can almost double the OS load, or even with SATA 2 HDD reach rubbish SSD speeds, if you have it attached to the sata2 not 3 port (:0 but if you have some HDD on SATA3 in raid be that two or three or four discs, then you will get a little close to SSD speeds. now putting SSD in a strip, its mighty quick. Okay I shall now play on... BTW. I did have a "upfraid" to a 970GTX (4gb) and Im currently playing HD ultra in a lot of games, some fairly old some not and I am seeing good 70+ FPS on the newer games. you paid a little too much for the graphics cards... and I say upfraid as I was going okay on what I had, but medium settings were not great and I couldn't edit any video on what I had. I upgraded but should have gone up another one as there twice the through put.... same with the card your using has half... really I am holding out for a big big upgrade... I think you're near me, maybe I will have to PM you as I have some crazy "tests" and some vintage hardware, some brands new still boxed. How about a 12 system cluster? how well would that game?

[@joaquintiesi2161]

With the correct MOBO you could change the turboboost ratios to give you much higher clocks on that CPU.

[@butre.]

one thing about ram compatibility, some boards require ECC compatible memory and most require non-ECC memory. Would be fine and dandy if ECC memory wasn't cheaper half the time

[@tdp2612]

I've got a 2320 and I'm very happy with it, but realistically needs a good cooler - mine was getting up to max temp within a couple rounds of CSGO

[@retropcscotland4645]

For the pizza la resistance........................ there is no us3b. It does have usb2 which is essential.