The Cheapest Used Pinarello We Could Find: Is It Any Good?

When looking for a new bike, buying second hand is a great option and an excellent way to get the most bang for your buck. We may want a Pinarello F but for most of us, that simply isn’t realistic. Therefore, we searched for the cheapest Pinarello for sale in the UK. And this is what we found: a £500 used superbike from Facebook Marketplace - is it any good?
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[@gcntech]

What upgrades would you do to make this Pinarello great again?

[@AndreiNeacsu]

Being an older carbon bike, I would put a complete Sram Rival Carbon groupset from 2009 on it.

[@truthseeker8483]

I would raise the handlebars.....😀😀😀

[@brasso9393]

I would put another stem with a TT bar underneath the existing one.

[@11-inch]

The new Shimano duraace di2 12s

[@richyrich2344]

I'd put the handlebars in the same postcode as the rest of the bike.

[@ronbyers9912]

An older rider who died or maybe his back or backside became so bad he could no longer ride? The added kit means he or his family is liquidating. The back story is probably very sad. By the way, you can tell the previous owner loved his bike and was not afraid to spend money upgrading it. He took very good care of his ride.

[@Chris-de2qc]

Yeah probably sick and can't ride anymore or passed. No one would just give all the bike accessories away.

[@markwillner1179]

why does it have to be sad? Maybe he lived to be 100. Rode his bike daily and passed on peacefully surrounded by family. His family wanted the bike to go to a good home where another rider could enjoy it rather then it hanging from someone's garage wall or sold for twice the amount and thereby not falling into the hands of someone who might not be able to normally afford a nice carbon frame bike! :-)

[@ronbyers9912]

@@markwillner1179 You might be right, but I for one take exception to the way Ollie denigrated the previous owner's modifications to the obviously well maintained bike. I guess you might expect it because he is young and full of himself, but when when he gets to be a little older he will realize just how much commitment it takes to continue biking through chronic medical conditions and the travails of aging.

[@demand61]

@ron, have you bought the movie rights?

[@religionofpeace3244]

typical english peoples lack of respect

[@simonbailey2151]

Decent little project bike, that. Obviously your renovation will have clicks and content in mind, but I would just drop the front end, stick some oil on the chain and pivots and enjoy it.

[@robbchastain3036]

I'm sure we'll get a vid where he puts baseball cards in the spokes, the first Pinarello to ever sound like a motorcycle. :)

[@TSonemusic]

You’d keep the mtb stem yeah? Good luck cornering that thing.

[@simonbailey2151]

@@TSonemusic is that question for me? No, that’s why I said ‘I would drop the front end’.

[@johnmcgovern5372]

I bought a Trek 1500 slr last year for £260. I also got a track pump, Kask helmet, Specialized shoes, pedals and a bunch of other stuff too. I can only assume the seller was giving up cycling.

[@11-inch]

Cycling is hard, full of elitists and pretentious as fuck, be glad that he quit cycling

[@johnmcgovern5372]

@@11-inch The thing I find the most pretentious is people who actively seek out videos on YT about subjects they dislike just so they can give their unwanted opinion.

[@johnmcgovern5372]

@Ugg Calisthenics coach PhD Bio 🧪 So you're right when it comes to new bikes, i can't afford one and have always bought second hand as my post says. I'm not sure why anyone buys new when a 2 or 3 year old bike drops in value by 30-40% and if you buy a few years older than that then it's even cheaper. The biggest problem I have with the way bikes are going is how every manufacturer is now making bikes that only take their own parts and the way they're designed now makes it difficult to service them yourself unless you have the skills.

[@jimjamthebananaman1]

@Ugg Calisthenics coach PhD Bio 🧪 yeah, full of Lycra wearing folk buying carbon bikes for stupid amounts of money when they don’t have a clue what they’re doing or why.

[@johnmcgovern5372]

@Ugg Calisthenics coach PhD Bio 🧪 And his comment was also about cyclists not the manufacturers.

[@thomreynolds1318]

Ollie, be nice. The previos owner obviously bought it, got injured, loved riding and tried to make it work and couldn't so got rid of all his cycling stuff because he wasn't going to be able to do it again. Kind of sad, but excellent deal.

[@JGRGilbert]

Yes, exactly. This made me feel sad. Seems like someone giving up cycling due to medical issues.

[@ronbyers9912]

As an older rider myself it makes me feel good to see other riders doing all they can to stay on their bike. I would love to know the back story.

[@Seppster58]

This was a great video on what to look for in a used bike. Ollie did a wonderful job in explaining what to look for in the way of wear and tear inspection points. Awesome!!

[@gcntech]

Glad it was helpful!

[@anttitapio4145]

That bike with those bonus equipments and tools is a STEAL level finding! I bet someone decided to quit everything related to bicycles 😅

[@JMcLeodKC711]

I agree which is a little sad.

[@rizzlerforthergyatt]

It's sad to think about ngl

[@chrisc1140]

With the extended steering I'm thinking it may have been an older rider that *hopefully* just decided to go for something more comfortable - maybe even an ebike.

[@robbchastain3036]

Thanks, Ollie, for putting used bikes like this in the spotlight--it is truly a wonderful reality that we cyclists can find and buy such bikes at great prices and it is all much like it used to be here in the States with used cars, you could find some real steals everywhere and that's why so many older people have all these vintage and valuable muscle cars and such. But getting back to your Pinarello, its original owner could've just reached for the sky with high-rise handlebars from an old Schwinn Sting-Ray. :)

[@buildingreno]

The previous owner likey had prostate issues or cancer. The split saddle and Uber upright position tells the story of 0 pressure on the peri area. I see bikes like that and think, ya man! do what you need to stay out on your bike!

[@garyking508]

Nah, sore neck and shoulders would do it. I can't ride slammed stems anymore, but gravel bikes mostly have bars and seat level, so they're good.

[@trroland1248]

That bike left the Pinarello factory in Taiwan (not Treviso, IT). Even then, only the very top F-series Pinarellos were produced in IT.

[@revisephilosophy]

Yep - my steel one has 'Made in Italy', not the 'Spirit of Italy' stickers on the later one's.

[@0ldw3lshm4n]

frames from Taiwan yes, still are for nearly all carbon frames

[@thepandaman]

This reminded me of what I was going to suggest as your next "which is faster?" challenge - an endurance road bike with all the spacers, ridden in the drops vs a slammed race bike, ridden in the hoods.

[@fennec13]

I wouldn't do much to this bike at all!! It looks to be in good order. Needs some new pedals and Obviously fixing that steerer/ front end bodge. A new stem and bars (unless the bars suit). Maybe some ultegra levers & brakes to fill out the whole groupset, if the seat post is carbon fine, and a new seat. I think you can be happy with that.

[@jeremymaclean3535]

Hank getting done dirty there with the bike fitter hahaha

[@gcntech]

Would you really want Hank to do your bike fit?... Hank?! 😂

[@stevenbalderstone709]

I bought that exact model and colour frame new in 2015, built it up with an ultegra groupset and have been riding and racing it since. It rides and handles beautifully, still serves well as a training bike.

[@a1white]

Some really useful advice on buying used carbon frames

[@oliverbridgewood3929]

glad you liked it mate!

[@thomascarne3360]

There's some great bargains to be had in the second market for older high spec bikes. If it was good enough for pro's 10 years ago it's certainly good enough for your amateur. Parts can be a concern but the higher spec bikes were well built an durable

[@johnmcgovern5372]

Absolutely right, too many people fall into the trap of thinking new is better. Sometimes it's not even quicker. I know someone with an s-works SL7 and another guy with an SL4. I've ridden both and the SL4 just felt better to me. More responsive and the feel of it all over was better.

[@tahmids4082]

@@johnmcgovern5372 bang on, I own an SL7 myself and it's my first ever S-works bike, but after riding a friend's SL4 few days back it just instantly felt better to ride

[@johnmcgovern5372]

@@tahmids4082 It's weird right? The sl4 shouldn't be better but it is...

[@gcntech]

That's what this one's all about - we've done a lot of cheap Eurobike content but this is to show that you can get genuinely good bikes for really good value!

[@johnmcgovern5372]

@@gcntech I think we;re all looking forward to seeing more content with the bike.

[@boriss.861]

What a find Ollie Please get it NDT'd ! Love to see what they do!!

[@RicardoRocha-lg1xo]

Ollie: But wait! Me: there’s more! With all those bits in the bag, it certainly felt like a TV Shopping ad

[@oliverbridgewood3929]

Hahahaha! miss those ads! AND A FREE PEN, but wait, THERE’S MORE!

[@hctyres6898]

Completed The Etape Lochness on a Halfords parts bin special Hybrid with front suspension (WEIGHS 15 Kilos ) and managed to pass alot of clipped in racer dudes ,enjoy the bike youve got.

[@informaniac34]

I got the Pinarello FPDUE ….5 months ago ..great bike

[@justinfletcher5189]

I bought a $550 USD Pinarello about 15 years ago. Equipped with 9 speed Veloce and the most comfortable saddle I’ve ever ridden. Brilliant bike,still have it still love it

[@PCXMODSGR]

Olie I have the same bike but the FP team edition! Great bike and fast even for modern-day standards! 2013 model! This example was owned by those people who cant bend their spine at all so you see from a distance a giraffe riding a road bike! As most of us try to go lower some try opposite!

[@simonbailey2151]

I know what you mean, but whenever I see an older chap on a road bike with some kind of riser stem I always think ‘at least he’s still out there’.

[@monochromebluess]

A giraffe riding a road bike. Step forward GCN Conor

[@PCXMODSGR]

@@monochromebluess Conor was a pro ride no matter his size he will always have a lower position than most of us !

[@monochromebluess]

@@PCXMODSGR have you watched any of the recent GCN shows featuring Conor ? He is enjoying making fun of his height - super large bike on the sand race etc etc on the shows. The comment was humorous. Perhaps you don’t understand the British sense of humour. He was indeed a good pro rider.

[@PCXMODSGR]

@@monochromebluess I do understand don't worry! your comment tho is unnecessary!

[@silentscientist2234]

Something tells me that this is a gonna be a great series

[@DickSpencer1954]

Beautiful find Ollie, my guess is that it was owned by an older gentleman who really took care of a bike that he sadly could not ride anymore for whatever reason. I would suggest a total restoration, 1932 Ford Coupe vs 1932 hot rod. It has good bones, leave it alone and bring "her" back as a "tribute" to the fact that "new" doe not make "better". Enjoy your beautiful bike.

[@revisephilosophy]

Nice find - I have a steel Pinarello Asolo - early 90s I guess. It cost £300 and has a Campag triple groupset. Got me up Ventoux.

[@gcntech]

That's awesome!

[@BTCcantfixstupid]

I bought a used pinarello FP due, with Shimano 105 and carbon rims .... absolutely love it !!

[@teddytejero]

ultegra dual pivot brakes , continental 5000 tyres , new cable set , ... payed 700 euro for a park pre carbon road bike with 105 groupset. Did had a crack in the fork tube ... but it's a great ride now with a full ultegra group set.

[@Relevant_Irrelevance]

This was a steal.

[@chrisroach4284]

PS! The icing on the cake was that a bought a fully restored Harry Hall steel bike from the 1980's off my brother for £100.?? That's right! £100. The bike looks brand spanking new. The frame was resprayed by Blue Whippet Paintworks. My brother cleaned up and polished all the parts and it looks and rides like a brand new bike. The frame back in the day was hand made from Reynolds 531 Competition tubing and it was designed as a sporty tourer. Harry Hall bikes were quite a status symbol back in them days. Owning a Harry Hall was like owning a Rolls Royce!! 🤗. It's beautiful to ride and it's still pretty quick and responsive? Stunning bike. 🚴🚴🤗

[@jernejkosec8656]

Height of the handle bars and saddle enables you to ride a bike if you have problems with back pain / herniated disc. :)

[@peterrichardson9248]

Comfy saddle and no cricked neck front steering tube extender! Lovely!

[@user-rc5ld4um4n]

cant wait for the next video showing the upgrading of this bike!

[@chadmyles-theclevelandcyclist]

When I started making the transition from hybrid bikes to road bike, I once sold a high end hybrid bike for dirt cheap and I threw in spare tubes, tires, pedals, saddles and some of tools I used to service the bike because I wasn’t using them anymore and I didn’t feel right just throwing them away. I knew the person purchasing the bike would need them.

[@macserda2044]

Love the dog playing at 4:21 in the video! Is the owner with GCN??

[@DaveCM]

The frame looks marginally better than the Dogma frames. I always thought they were absolutely hideous. But, a solid bike for the price.

[@nikolozchogovadze]

Many people are scared to buy something used but I guess not many know how to check for damages. This is a beautiful bike, when you have a stem up that hight you know nobody has raced on it 😆 this is a great buy! Awesome.

[@core2zero]

with that stem you bet it never went over 30kph, that thing is pristine and a huge bargain

[@The1trueDave]

I think you're right but I'd be a little concerned how much stress that extension might have put on the fork column...

[@willmurray5819]

I bought a Pinarello ROKH with the SRAM Force groupset about a month ago for $900 (£850). He threw in a new Kask Helmet and Wahoo Speedplay Zero pedals that were still in the box. After buying a brand new Pinarello a few years ago and riding it a total of twice, he decided to give up on cycling altogether.

[@davucaymen8747]

Got a Pinarello montello for £430, it was my first steel bike and it really surprised me how smooth it was!

[@rajmohamed3538]

Must be kind hearted seller. Nice narration brother

[@mrchris389]

I nearly bought that bike...his wife was selling it and said her husband has back and neck problems ... it wasn't as cheap when I looked at it 😭

[@easternbrown]

Was thinking that the previous user's setup might have been due to some physical difficulty. If his cycling days are over then I hope he can at least enjoy seeing Ollie take his old bike up the Stelvio.

[@chris1275cc]

That's sad, I thought it would be something like that. Hopefully he used the ££ to buy something he can still ride, there's only so much you can do with a stiff, aggressive road bike. Hopefully he's getting used to the butterfly bars on his new cushy tourer as we speak.

[@al-du6lb]

excited for the next episode

[@hollywoodundead72]

@2:52 🤣🤣🤣 always reefing on Hank lmaooooo

[@jasonk7072]

I bought an 18 month old Wilier Izoard for £400 from a guy who rode it twice but didn’t like it. I also got a track pump, a little saddle bag full of tubes and tyre levers and SPD SL pedals. Still got it, still very happy with it and could still get my money back if I decided to sell it 😊

[@jimmyhor78]

Super nice! Just because it has nice decent flat pedals for a change.

[@Thomas01763]

The chimney on the bike is hilarious😂

[@kpizzle1985]

First thing I would've checked, considering the huge stack, would be the fork steerer.

[@abhi4121]

The reach and stack of this bike might be exactly the same. The geometry is tuned for an out of saddle experience while being on the saddle. A real stand up guy owned this bike.

[@paulpenfold2352]

Depends. The top tube looks rather short to me. If the head angle is 73 or 74 degrees and short, I think I'd be tempted to keep the head tube extender in place! Otherwise, I'd stick a load of R8000 ultegra on it, but replace the ultegra crankset with a GRX 1x. The thing is, if you want the bike to be taller, you can only really put a new fork on it and keep a maximum of 4cm of spacers under the stem and have a stem that's as steep as possible - about 15 degrees. But if the head angle is 74 degrees, that 15 degree stem will only give you so much rise. To me, that set-up looks like it belonged to someone who used it only to dash to the local off-license.

[@TheoldSouth]

I have a 2013 Felt F5 that I picked up a year ago. What group set and wheels would be a good upgrade for me? I currently have 2x10 105.

[@bjsr126]

I'd say people were more put off by the fact that there's 0 chance that fork isn't compromised due to the way it's been setup..

[@adamweb]

I bought a brand new Pinarello Gan K Carbon Ultegra in 2017 on sale for $2100... I plan to make it last many more years it's insane how expensive new bikes have gotten!

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Was that Frodo trekking through the background with his magical walking stick gifted from Gandolf?

[@demand61]

First task: check the steerer tube of that fork. With the extension and collection of spacers that has seen some great opportunity to get damaged

[@demand61]

Other than that: replace horrible seat, while you’re there, remove light from seat post, remove shite taking up space between head set and stem, add chainstay protection and go go go

[@jacobwright9383]

My biggest fear is that when I die my wife will sell my bike for what I told her it cost. This is exactly what that looks like. Either that or a 50 year old dentist just got a divorce.

[@1911Zoey]

Which is why you write a will and the price of that bike on the 2nd hand market to whoever you're going to leave it to.

[@desroin]

Am I the only one who just had to check his carbon frame in all the spots Olli mentioned? ^^'

[@rhysmaybrey7739]

Can’t wait to see what you do to it. Great bargain

[@john-di1bn]

What an absolute steal. Just remove the steerer tube extender and shorten the cable housings and it'll look like a "normal" road bike lol

[@SagnikDasgupta]

Easiest upgrade to make, would be to replace the R500s with literally any other pair of wheels. These wheels give a super harsh ride in my experience. Bombproof though.

[@emperorgsx]

🤣🤣🤣that height of the handle bars omg , super crazy looking

[@hymen0callis]

3:01 Especially since it's not in Biggie Smalls

[@JMcLeodKC711]

Does anyone remember hearing the phrase “cycling is the new golf”? I am 99% sure this bike was owned by a golfer who decided to go back to golf. The story is a little sad. I am pretty sure they would look at that bike every so often and say “someday”.

[@reginaldscot165]

Golfers ruined cycling in my opinion.

[@JMcLeodKC711]

@@reginaldscot165 ruined might be a little harsh. My brother-in-law picked up cycling from golf and is pretty awesome. He can drop me in a heartbeat. My only request of any new cyclist is to learn how to change their own flats.

[@JMcLeodKC711]

@@reginaldscot165 The people that have ruined cycling are what I like to call “poachers”. In a cycling context, a poacher likes to tell their wife they are going on a day long ride only to tap out at 50 km and focus on the après beers. This gives the rest of us a bad name. I say go back to golf

[@savasorama]

such a lovely dog that is

[@monkmchorning]

All Fredded out. I acquired a vintage Masi Gran Criterium like that.

[@stephanefraga2599]

Works good in small space using in camper toy hauler room has heat & air would buy again

[@christiantermansen5615]

After first watching the 'Stelvio ride' this is quiet a teaser for: Is It Any Good? Witch I think willcome in an other episode?!?!?!?! Maybe U could make it into a season feature. Question, what would Elvis say????

[@colecoleman1499]

Dude really wanted to get rid of his bike and everything. Didn't want a single sight reminding him of the bike

[@squigglz97]

"Bikes of this period" sounds like he's talking about paintings in a museum haha!

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

The cheapest Pinarello we could find... ala Hoovies Garage 😀👍 Love it.

[@giacomofossati402]

isn’t the head stem too low by far?? Maybe with a more extension is going to be perfect!

[@bikeralemanha]

Very nice bike for only 500 pounds!! The video is also super!!

[@joneinarmattiasvisser6113]

This bike needs to be voted super nice! I mean, look at it! But in all seriousness, I would change the pedals to clipless and drop that stem a bit😂

[@chrishey6891]

The bike vault picture....it is never gonig to get in if the cranks aren't level, it isn't in biggie smalls and the valves aren't lined up! Ollie you made the rules!

[@gcntech]

You'd think he'd learn!

[@aidansrc2724]

Looking at the handle bar height is the hardest try not to laugh challenge there is

[@D_isco_D_ancer]

That stem LOL

[@yusuf5316]

Would love to see the owner and hear his story behind the bike and its built.

[@gcntech]

We'd love to show them! We can't wait to see what Ollie is going to do with this diamond in the rough!

[@OshuLuna]

can we get a video on that dog at 4:22? :D Dog vs Superbike?

[@oliverleibbrandt8067]

I bought my bike second hand and the seller gave me the exact same cycling shoes with my bike

[@steveyeats5541]

Ollie: Takes pic for the bike vault. Also Ollie: Forgets to take off light. Schoolboy error!?

[@savagepro9060]

1:42 what a strange mini-tool

[@marcnoele8002]

That cheap pinarello is my dream bike ❤️

[@Jakelol1980]

500£ for all that = Stolen

[@a1white]

Not with all that years worth of tools and accessories with it.

[@dan_lazaro]

Well just look at it

[@kgramckow]

Ehh. A relatively expensive bike, set up for ultra comfort/as a hybrid, sold with all a persons' cycling-related accessories, seems more likely to me to be an older person deciding that their cycling days are behind them. Someone that age is more likely to be comfortably well-off enough that they're just trying to clear out space and not have to look at the bike anymore rather than get the last pound/dollar's worth out of it. If a 20 year old sold me that I'd be suspicious, but I'd bet that it wasn't.

[@joemclaughlin8657]

Just a rich old mega Fred giving up his hobby

[@tesmith47]

No,

[@jimmyzhao2673]

Bought off a retired cyclist ? If the owner can't ride that anymore, I hope he got himself perhaps an ebike with a big comfy saddle so he can continue to enjoy riding.

[@jacgn_cycling]

It looks like the end of an hobby cause of back issues. A little bit sad.

[@chris1275cc]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, the sheer height of the bars, the choice of saddle, the MTB stem, the drive train upgrades (exactly where I would make the same upgrades if I was on a budget), it screams someone desperate to keep riding. Lets hope he sold this to buy something more suitable for his needs and is still peddling.

[@fisharefriends598]

Why put the drops so hi…. If you need them that high, get flat bars and something for extra positions .. ergon gp5

[@chrisroach4284]

I can beat that bargain?? I bought a Kuota kharma full carbon from around 2009 for a measley £260 and the buyer included a turbo trainer! The bikes in pretty good condition. It's got a few user based scrapes and scratches but nothing major. The components are a mixture of 105/ Ultegra and it's even got a carbon crank set? 🤗 The bike when bought only weighed in at 18 lbs but I've changed the tyres to a Schwalbe Marathon Plus on the back and a Zaffiro Slick in the front which has added nearly a pound to the weight?? I'll be riding the bike on paths and errrrr! GRAVEL?? 😅😅😅 Tell you what though. The bike really flies along even with the added weight and there's hardly any road buzz. It must have been a well designed and manufactured frame when it was new?? I'm defo a Carbon convert. There's some amazing bargains out there?? 🤗🤗🚴🚴🚴🚴

[@Gannicius]

My winter bike is a 2006 pinarello Angliru which cost me £200

[@johnnyb1829]

Stick some Ape Hanger bars on it slightly angled backward like I had on my Raleigh Chopper, Throw some perm on your attitude, you've got to lay it back

[@graememorrison333]

Check this for yourselves, but 95% of people I see on my morning commute or even a spin through the lanes, who are on race-oriented bikes, don't ride in the drops. Most of them, like the guy whose bike this was, would be better off with flat bars.

[@ollieb9875]

Most time is spent on the hoods yes. The hoods maintain a natural hand wrist rotation and drops in general allow more comfort in terms of allowing to shift positions during the ride, hoods, tops, drops and are narrower which people enjoy over flat bars.

[@graememorrison333]

@@ollieb9875 Alright, then:. roadster type bars, if we're being pedantic. My point still stands: I never see a person using the drops outside of a race.

[@veryboringname.]

@@graememorrison333 If someone enjoys riding fast on the drops on weekends but also wants to commute to work during the week, surely you don't expect them to buy a second bike just so it "looks right" if their first bike will do the job perfectly fine?

[@robertthies9946]

@@graememorrison333 I typically don't ride in the drops whether I'm commuting, on a group ride, or riding a sportive except when I'm riding into a significant head wind and then I want that option available.

[@The1trueDave]

That's a fair point; I'm a commuter and recreational rider and only get on the drops if I'm riding into a big headwind. The advantage for me is the variety of hand positions rather than 'getting aero'...

[@timoakley277]

For many of us who aren't 30 anymore, that handlebar stack looks fine. Just saying...

[@n22pdf]

Great bike and info look forward to seeing the build 🤩👍🚴🚵🏿‍♂️

[@Biggsy76]

4:23 Sorry can you repeat that bit, I was distracted watching the dog chase a ball.

[@user-lx6pk9os2d]

I'd be checking that Ultegra chainset very, very carefully...

[@apicharjiratanan4285]

Now you make me feel bad, I tell you what, once covid dropping I'll start riding again

[@benturp3492]

I bought a trek speed concept 1st gen frame for £280 quid 😎

[@scottsgreatadventure9738]

The forks on these bikes looks like my dogs tail when she poops.

[@kahlilb.toston9890]

I wish I can have that too

[@cryingrocknathanaeledwards1828]

Another few millimeters on the steer tube and it’s bar spin ready! Lol

[@stevenwebb1806]

Graeme Obree special edition stem?

[@MrLodziarz]

Absolut steal

[@fabianwylie8707]

Think the chap that sold that Pinarello, just had enough of cycling , gave you the lot 😂😂😂