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The Cheapest Watch I Have Ever Seen Housing The AWESOME ST2130 28,800 Bph

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Жыл бұрын

In this video I review the Berny AM7110. This is the cheapest watch I have found containing the Sea-Gull ST2130. This is a great movement beating 28,800 bph, hacks and hand winds...
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@daveindevon5240
@daveindevon5240 Жыл бұрын
I stumbled across this Calatrava homage shortly after watching your video extolling the virtues of this movement. It looked good and so I picked one up in the 11/11 sale for around £105, which made it even better value. It has since become one of my favourite watches, getting more wrist time than most. It looks and wears great and the size is perfect for a daily wear. Ignore the vintage lume versions, I have the blue one and the lume is really good, lasting all night. My only complaint was the small crown on the original version, which made winding awkward, but this has now been addressed. If only Berny removed their name from the dial and just used their logo, it would be perfect. I can't recommend this watch too highly and, if you are tempted to buy it, just go ahead, you won't be disappointed. It's another fantastic Berny buy.
@rev.waynet.oleary7387
@rev.waynet.oleary7387 Жыл бұрын
Good to see alternative watches to the usual expensive swiss brands being reviewed in an open way. An accessible Channel for everyone and no snobbish nonsense... Great!
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@user-tq6gg7ln4g
@user-tq6gg7ln4g Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review Gary! I think I'm going to drop this model into my shopping list. And I respect Berny's watches for the opportunity to get such affordable ones. P.S. Berny also provides spare parts for their watches if one needs to replace even a watch case.
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын
That's good to know! 👍👍👍
@WATCH-4U
@WATCH-4U Жыл бұрын
i think BERNY are producing some great pieces of recent !!! great review !!!
@czguy3045
@czguy3045 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have the green fade dial version. Quite nice... quite nice... the strap was more of a suede than a traditional leather and I didn't love it on the watch as I feel it made it look a bit less dressy, but the quality of both the watch head and the strap is just amazing and I put the strap on another watch. As you mentioned, but quite the very best finished case ever but I love the dimensions and the overall look. The movement is a plus (mine runs about +1 second per day with the dial up) and I just really like how it looks and feels on wrist. I grabbed mine used but essentially new from a Facebook group for $50 shipped. Amazing!
@frankyz007
@frankyz007 Жыл бұрын
Berny makes really good watches i have a compressor with a miyota 8205 and i am still surprises of the accuracy. this chinese brand is a good one and very affordable... 😎😎😎
@timmatheny-lo9ze
@timmatheny-lo9ze 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for your channel. I’ve got a older 36 mm unbranded military dial watch ( 90,s I think) manual wind with quickset date. Very smooth winding and is a high beat. It works very well so I’m not going’s be removed the back. It’s a china movement.
@johnjones928
@johnjones928 Жыл бұрын
This is the watch I was referring to when you reviewed this movement for the first time a couple of months ago, Berny always finds a way to squeeze the most watch out of the money asked. BTW I'm not too bothered about the brand name, at least it pays homage to something real (Bern, Switzerland) unlike the contrivance that sprung the Rolex name.
@oi_bilbo1082
@oi_bilbo1082 Жыл бұрын
Good point. Thanks! I'll need to give Berny another look.
@CanadianBeachcomber
@CanadianBeachcomber Жыл бұрын
I would rather buy the black dial with white hands version. Very good pick Gary.
@mikecoleman5721
@mikecoleman5721 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t resist already ordered, thank you so much for this one, movement collection obsession satisfied for a while 😂
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s a movement worth experiencing I think
@spectrasouth
@spectrasouth Жыл бұрын
I lovely 'little' watch! I received mine earlier today and am even more impressed by it in my hand than in the videos. I chose the ORG version, with the orange hands and numbers, as the brand name and dial text are nicely muted, making the overall appearance more subtle ... and a close homage to the Patek Calatrava (5226G), for which I certainly would balk at paying $40K for. It seems, from YT videos posted a few months back, that the earlier version of this watch didn't have the display back, so that is a good change.
@romeq6717
@romeq6717 9 ай бұрын
Just Received This Watch From The 11/11 Sale And I'm Very Impressed By The Value For Dollar. Thank You For Reviewing This Watch.
@roydoorenspleet1548
@roydoorenspleet1548 Жыл бұрын
Wish they one day offer no-name dials.. and maybe this particular in plain matt black 🤟
@bensynewsshoedown4999
@bensynewsshoedown4999 Жыл бұрын
Look at the original Patek 5226, it's close to what you wish for. I linked it above. If Berny did a flat colour and a black datewheel, it could get close.
@anantasutrisno7136
@anantasutrisno7136 Жыл бұрын
They offer some of the model without Logo (customize). Check their website bro
@woesteloepi.
@woesteloepi. Жыл бұрын
I'm not always on the same page with you Gary, about taste and sizes of watches! But i really have to agree with you about the Seagull movements......i love them! You are absolutely right about that.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Cool, nice to know….(that we can agree on something…)
@woesteloepi.
@woesteloepi. Жыл бұрын
​​@@ilikewatches Hahahaha 👍 WE like watches 😉
@waynesellers4078
@waynesellers4078 Жыл бұрын
This looks like a perfect candidate for a quick dial swap to get rid of that berny name. Nice hands, case and movement and a display caseback.
@ignaciopadilla5150
@ignaciopadilla5150 Жыл бұрын
I been always put off by the Name. Specially when the Berny hype in politics was going on in the US. I didn't know if they were tributing him therefore I didn't want a brand that people would judge me. I am all pro Berny Sanders but some people are Cult Fanatics here in the US. I learned from your channel about the actual brand.
@TechBaffle
@TechBaffle Жыл бұрын
Nice looking watch - I like the texture on the dial that gives it some depth. Looks quite practical and easy to read too!
@bangy55
@bangy55 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video very much. I ought to mention one thing. I went to Aliexpress to look at these excellent watches for about $56, amazing, however the pictures I saw that looked at the display case back, I could see they did not have the ETACHRON regulator like the one on your watch. The Etachron regulator is a sign of a well-made watch and really makes a difference in quality in my mind. I don't know why some would be with and others without but it makes me suspect enough to stay away. Seagull does make fine watches and this movement alone on Cousin's UK lists for about $75 USD to say nothing of the case, strap, and sapphire crystal. Thanks for sharing.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
I’d be surprised if this watch is available for $56….with this movement it’s around $140
@bangy55
@bangy55 Жыл бұрын
@@ilikewatches You're right. I went back and looked again. It's a Berny watch but a Seagull Automatic movement, st1612.
@mitchchandler3604
@mitchchandler3604 Жыл бұрын
Shocked to say that this watch actually grew on me over the course of a 9 minute video! I thought it looked basic and fairly ugly when first revealed, by then end... I think I might buy one!
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Lol…
@demetrisgrigas4810
@demetrisgrigas4810 Жыл бұрын
Great review in what seems to be worth the money. Good looking, amazing specs.
@frankyz007
@frankyz007 Жыл бұрын
definitely interesting to test water resistance...
@davehill4831
@davehill4831 Жыл бұрын
The brushed steel on the case back looks great. My preferred option. Wish you was doing this on the Academic, Gary
@magal55
@magal55 Жыл бұрын
This watch meets almost every criteria for my "perfect watch". Except the branding and the the hands' shape. But, nevertheless I think I will buy this one and do some modding. Nice review, just subscribed.
@yominrak7975
@yominrak7975 3 ай бұрын
this watch is beautiful, the lume performance is fantastic for its price tag.
@TheLegalTwit
@TheLegalTwit Жыл бұрын
It amazes me how a Chinese factory can produce fantastic watches but can't figure out how to create a brand name that doesn't make everyone cringe.
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
90% of their sales are non English speakers, that's why they don't care
@TheLegalTwit
@TheLegalTwit Жыл бұрын
@@chrispekel5709 hmm, I hadn't thought about that!
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with sea gull..., sounds better than Low-Rex any day..
@chrisbates8064
@chrisbates8064 Жыл бұрын
So I've just ordered one in black. Very happy with the cost - $177 incursions shipping and taxes!
@dazzlerjohnwatchman8215
@dazzlerjohnwatchman8215 Жыл бұрын
Garry is a fantastic result for Berny. The lume has improved, a nice look to the band. Great the movement seems to be working perfectly. Great sapphire sandwich. Will you water resist this one soon? I will hold off buying one given your comments on the revision of version one due to crown issues. Let Herman do his thing!!
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Yes, I plan to test it…
@bensynewsshoedown4999
@bensynewsshoedown4999 Жыл бұрын
​@@ilikewatches if you ever decided to change the hands, consider a black 2824-2 black datewheel mod, too. It would complete this watch.
@tyroneswift4004
@tyroneswift4004 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I have this watch in the same color way in my cart.
@Dr.Gunsmith
@Dr.Gunsmith Жыл бұрын
That’s a good looking watch for the price 🙏
@briangeorge7965
@briangeorge7965 Жыл бұрын
Great little watch , the logo puts me off , maybe a redesigned logo. Cheers G
@jamesminshall4601
@jamesminshall4601 Жыл бұрын
Damn I’m tempted, I love the calatrava but wish it was stainless and affordable. This would be so much better if they shrunk the brand name and threw in a black date wheel. I’ve been on the hunt for a watch with a similar textured dial that isn’t a homage but nothing has ticked all the boxes yet.
@XjohnjohnX88
@XjohnjohnX88 Жыл бұрын
I'm a subscriber and I watch and like all (or almost) your videos 👍
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@elmoelms2743
@elmoelms2743 Жыл бұрын
Nice looking watch but then again to small for me. I’m just not a fan of 38mm or smaller. Wish they would change the name too. Good review as always
@Redcrown77
@Redcrown77 Жыл бұрын
I really like Berny watches. I think this is a winner!!
@humos47
@humos47 6 ай бұрын
I bought the same color of this watch. The reason I bought it is entirely because of the mechanism of the watch. It is a swiss eta clone, but calling it a clone is an insult to the watch. because the watch is like a real eta movement. all parts are exactly the same
@elgarxu9636
@elgarxu9636 Жыл бұрын
beautiful dial and nice movement. If you are in China, it will be easy to get a similar one for half the price on Taobao
@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls
@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls 7 ай бұрын
Ohh I like this one :) Sapphire sandwich and a movement that at least "looks" the part with the naked eye
@pdmotors5027
@pdmotors5027 Жыл бұрын
A great move by Berny, but just cannot get my head around the name, sounds like the guy down the pub.😂
@cdeaker
@cdeaker Жыл бұрын
It’s a homage of Patek Philippe 2022 White Gold Calatrava 5226G-001 . I have real difficulty getting over the name “Berny” on the dial though, if it had a San Martin logo then no problem
@TinBin-Craig
@TinBin-Craig Жыл бұрын
brill watch for the price... i like it .... cheers
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын
Nice watch Gary and as for the awful name, all they need to do is remove the Y. "BERN" would be perfect and even better It's the capital Switzerland! It would have looked great on their Swiss railway watch homage for example. Excellent review.. Always top class.
@davidpantoja676
@davidpantoja676 Жыл бұрын
Hello Enjoy your content, I'm a budget watch person and really your take on watches. Will def check out this Berny
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for watching!
@patrickiredale4359
@patrickiredale4359 Жыл бұрын
Re-watched a see you showed the watch and price 57 seconds in at $139! Please therefore ignore my previous comment on price mention (if you haven’t already done so)!
@RobinhoodarrowsRHA
@RobinhoodarrowsRHA Жыл бұрын
Incredible!
@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen
@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen Жыл бұрын
The question is who is Berny and why does he think his name should be on the watch?
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Lol…isn’t it a collaboration between Bert and Erny?
@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen
@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen Жыл бұрын
@@ilikewatches 😆😆
@ikeman5774
@ikeman5774 Жыл бұрын
I really like the Berny compressor watch as well as this one. I'll probably never get either because of the name "Berny." My brothers name is Bernard and the family called him Berny. I love my brother, just can't see me wearing a watch with his name on it. I wish they would change their name, cause I like their style of watches a lot.
@garyk8285
@garyk8285 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad one Spearman! Out of 10 how does it feel for comfort when you throw a Spear? :)
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Very comfortable, not issues with throwing accuracy or distance!
@BosunM8James
@BosunM8James Жыл бұрын
Nice review, I think this watch would give Vaer a bit of competition.
@ace73pq
@ace73pq Жыл бұрын
I love the look, I love the movement, but unfortunately I don't like the size... If only this watch would also be offered in a larger format, like 43mm, then I would buy it right away!
@hrs.ai2018
@hrs.ai2018 Жыл бұрын
Overall looks nice, but i don't like the logo, its size way too big and fonts not nice to be a logo.
@WATCHingJames
@WATCHingJames Жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for Berny.
@dunderhay9169
@dunderhay9169 Жыл бұрын
Great review of a very smart watch. With a new hand set and a logo rather than BERNY on the dial that would make a pefect everyday watch.
@georgeliquor2931
@georgeliquor2931 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the clone movement has had the weaknesses of the 2824 have been fixed
@herdpm1
@herdpm1 Жыл бұрын
This watch, currently, is actually cheaper on Amazon at the moment.
@jasonbostock408
@jasonbostock408 Жыл бұрын
I like it but I will not be having breakfast with it (if anyone gets that reference good for you) logo I do not mind but it seems slightly large on this watch overall a bargain for the movement but it just does not do much for me
@alexhollins5830
@alexhollins5830 Жыл бұрын
I'm getting the impression that this watch has a Swiss quality and performing movement at an Asian price point. How does this movement compare to the NH and Miyota offerings around that price?
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
I like it…Sea-Gull are one of the worlds largest manufacturers of automatic movements, their movements are well respected
@thomasflynn5366
@thomasflynn5366 Жыл бұрын
Your channel has really evolved. You went from white tee shirts to colored tee shirts and now a sweat shirt lol. Just kidding, the content has evolved as well. I'm glad you are showing some of the less expensive watches too.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Thanks…im always trying to improve things. Little changes make big improvements
@LCMNUNES1962
@LCMNUNES1962 2 ай бұрын
ÓTIMO RELÓGIO 👍👍 🇧🇷
@S-Ltd1000
@S-Ltd1000 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I see the name Berny it's a massive no. Can't somebody have a word in their ear about a rebrand?
@navboi12
@navboi12 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you only fuck with Patek.
@mikesshots8587
@mikesshots8587 Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked to see that I'm looking for a close looking watch to the pp 5326G, and here I come
@patrickiredale4359
@patrickiredale4359 Жыл бұрын
If you mentioned the price, I missed it! Otherwise a very nice looking watch. Well presented.
@billstrang2639
@billstrang2639 Жыл бұрын
Like the watch but it’s too big for me as it’s all dial so wears bigger than 38. If they replaced the massive plastic movement spacer with a smaller one & made it 34mm, I’d be tempted.
@MrModcat
@MrModcat Жыл бұрын
Wanted to try a smaller watch for a while - at $105 ($111 with tax) in sale - couldn't resist! Hope it does OK in Herman
@harrycee656
@harrycee656 9 ай бұрын
I find the ST2130 accuracy is not that good when it winds down. The mainspring power delivery might NOT be very linear it seems. I find that my 2892 and DUW3001 had a deviation of 10-15 over 36hr off wrist from full wind vs 4 or 1s/d respectively on wrist 24/7. I can't regulate my 2892 or DUW3001 yet because they are still under warranty. My ST2130s lose 60-90s off wrist from a full wind in just 24hrs but 0-1s/d on wrist 24/7. I wonder if it is the spring material or shape.
@RavenWindrunner
@RavenWindrunner Жыл бұрын
Would love if Berny changed their name or went to just a symbol on the dial. No one closely looks at my watches but I'd know. I also wish they colour matched the lume .
@flaS2k
@flaS2k Жыл бұрын
Great content as always….
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@quantum_coach
@quantum_coach Жыл бұрын
The watch is very nice indeed and very well proportioned...but when I saw the letters B E R N Y on the dial is "no go" for me, I'm not against the brand I just can't stand that name in my watch, it looks kind of silly... :(
@sinjinadams2862
@sinjinadams2862 Жыл бұрын
I like it! It's a nice looking watch at a great price!
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands Жыл бұрын
The strap is probably too short again for average Dutch wrists...they usually are... for the rest looks great, wish I could afford it..
@watchesandcaps2566
@watchesandcaps2566 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the Patek Calatrava ref. 5226G
@TheProco2020
@TheProco2020 Жыл бұрын
I dial is a homage to a Patek 5226G-01, I believe. Beautiful dial. Like others I have an issue with the brand name.
@waynesellers4078
@waynesellers4078 Жыл бұрын
It's also similar to the seiko baby alpinist.
@mywatch...
@mywatch... Жыл бұрын
It kinda reminds me of new Tag Heuer Autavia...
@paulhiggins8774
@paulhiggins8774 Жыл бұрын
Why the orange hands.
@davidjaime7355
@davidjaime7355 Жыл бұрын
I’m stuck between this one and the Baltic field chronograph
@MrAdrianjohnson
@MrAdrianjohnson Жыл бұрын
Love this watch sir great bang for buck
@mazzochi2028
@mazzochi2028 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the colour on the hands. Shame it doesn't match the numbers.
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 Жыл бұрын
Hi Gary How would you compare the Sea-Gul movement to the Miyota 9000 series ?
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
I’ve not had issues with either and the seagull doesn’t have the spinning rotor…it’s comparable
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 Жыл бұрын
@@ilikewatches Thanks Gary 👍
@dazherbert2782
@dazherbert2782 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful movement in an average watch.
@cr3338
@cr3338 Жыл бұрын
Pity there's no sterile dial option. The Berny brand name just doesn't do it for me personally.
@John-fy7hx
@John-fy7hx Жыл бұрын
Cool watch. Good choice
@samcraig1098
@samcraig1098 Жыл бұрын
Good. Very good
@spx1416
@spx1416 Жыл бұрын
for me Berny should look at swapping the name on their dials for some type of logo as the name is not the best and makes it look more budget than it deserves
@franciscomoliner1296
@franciscomoliner1296 Жыл бұрын
Why can't other brands use this movement and get away from the NH-35 overload! Regards Gary (P.S. Do think Berny is a value brand if not brand name)
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
I like their watches, branding is obviously a weakness but their build quality seems good…
@flyingrocket3879
@flyingrocket3879 Жыл бұрын
That a winner 🏆
@coldude2559
@coldude2559 Жыл бұрын
Not bad at all 👍
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv Жыл бұрын
I can’t get the promo code to work.
@sakar5127
@sakar5127 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the brands are sending the watches to the reviewers on youtube which have the best of best regarding the built quality the accuracy the strap quality etc. I have the black one of this watch which have screwdown case back. You struggle to grap the crown; if you manage it you cant handwind it because mine was stuck. I couldnt hand wind it! The crown feels so cheap that you cant feel the date and time setting positions when you pull and push it. The dial is not legible. And finally mine is running 17-20 seconds fast a day.
@sakar5127
@sakar5127 Жыл бұрын
After watching the review i heard that Gary had mentioned the crown issue and the overall built quality of the watch.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Yes, you may have had a version 1….they have had reports of issues with that one sadly
@WORMGERM
@WORMGERM Жыл бұрын
It's a homage to the new Patek Philippe Calatrava.
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands Жыл бұрын
My watched costs me 2 €, the battery 4 € the strap, NATO 18. €, that was all the money I had...
@ricardonercolini6053
@ricardonercolini6053 Жыл бұрын
Gary can I ask If you could done more water proof tests on the chinese watches? I've been so disapointed with my Tandorios...
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Check out my second channel…
@watchalot919
@watchalot919 Жыл бұрын
Nice movement and a nice looking watch, BUT THE BRAND NAME 😝
@nsglr
@nsglr 6 ай бұрын
This brand doesnt ship the orders. If you want to live troubles with shipping and can not refund your money. You can be free. Please read comments of customers (i mean people made payment and can not receive the orders) for boderry watch's shipping and refund problems
@borisstepanyan9611
@borisstepanyan9611 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@lawrence-ec5dm
@lawrence-ec5dm Жыл бұрын
Nice watch,shame about the name Berny a very good mate of mine has that name I think he would think it was a bit creepy if I had his name on my watch 😂
@zipitar9018
@zipitar9018 7 ай бұрын
Chinese watch don't have longevity, though, have a old hmt mechanical watch indian brand 1980 using it fine, citizen seiko too in sub 150 usd range
@AlexanderB.
@AlexanderB. Жыл бұрын
Nice watch! But I feel you picked the worst colourway mate! 😏 I don't mind a little faux patina but in this case the hands are as orange as Donald Trump's face and to make it worse they clash with the white numerals! 😬
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches Жыл бұрын
Lol….you might be right!
@genetung8590
@genetung8590 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to start a watch company in tribute of Theo Van Gogh's sister, Jo Van Gogh Bonger. I will name my watch the Bonger 1
@genetung8590
@genetung8590 Жыл бұрын
Better yet, the Bonger 3000, Purple nurple limited edition
@ronb4115
@ronb4115 7 ай бұрын
Berny name is bad, so at least make it much smaller on the dial. Otherwise, well executed and great value
@carforumwanker
@carforumwanker Жыл бұрын
now screw down crown is a big mistake.... Also branding is a bit "Naf"
@chief1960
@chief1960 Жыл бұрын
Plain and not dressy but a good deal.
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