"The Church is WACK" |

[@tamararodriguez4413]

Tye said the institution of Religion is wack...and in my opinion No lies were told💯

[@KeishannaMichele]

Not one lie told at all! 💯

[@Joce-bl7qi]

@tamararodriguez4413 I mean… that’s basically what Jesus said to the religious leaders (pharisees, etc.) of his day… 🤷‍♀️

[@tamararodriguez4413]

@@Joce-bl7qi 💯💯💯

[@junebugcomputer]

Tye is giving a good perspective on how churches have become more of an institution rather than a way connect people to god.

[@ProvidenceP]

Thought he was pretty clear about that

[@sweetmercifulj]

@@ProvidencePhe was. 😊

[@kymmieg6110]

@@ProvidencePhe was very clear and they kept proving his point on social media 😂😂😂

[@polivepea]

This

[@tylerhackner9731]

💯💯

[@Anna-pz4vu]

Policing the “time” and “place” of conversations are the reasons change doesn’t happen. We’ve been saying the same things and not much change is being made

[@PHE-nomenon]

Atp we've got to make change on our own/individually. However, the stats & numbers will still count towards the collective. Sadly we can't even trust ourselves/our own "Movements" these days (blm). Nor can we keep our marriages/families together. We gotta focus & execute on 1 thing at a time against a multifaceted war... 😮‍💨😢

[@ksuave7]

My question to this is if 'policing the conversations' don't help change, what solutions did he give in that interview to promote change holistically? I've seen conversations in christian settings where he gave a more thorough critique and provided solutions where actual leaders could be challenged in love btw.

[@PHE-nomenon]

@ksuave7 what solutions did who give? The OP or Kev?

[@ksuave7]

@PHE-nomenon my question was to the initial poster Anna on this thread, sorry. I was referring to Tye Tribbett providing solutions though

[@drtaylor76]

NAACP AWARD WINNING PODCAST HTT

[@kcxsmooth]

THEY WON?? LETS GOOO

[@BooyouwhOoore]

They won?! I’m too lazy to Google, but if so, Yayyyyyy🎉

[@LuckyJackson2020]

they won?

[@nokuthula_q]

Yyyyyyeeeessss

[@ochukoasiafor5834]

🎉🎉

[@Nomorepain2020]

People can definitely say “see this is why I left the church” and mean that. They didn’t need to wait for Tye to say it for it to be true💜

[@natashastokes4265]

Kev silently hushing Monty like a whole Black daddy made me giggle 😊😅. Quietly getting him together without disrupting his business call LOL Multitasking!❤

[@duntaejones6107]

I think he muted himself while he fussed at Monty.

[@shannawilliams8769]

lol!

[@CassidyGrace410]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I almost fell out when Monty started barking. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Melanated.Royal.Queen24]

What Angel is missing in Tye’s statement is the ideology that religion is man-made whereas RELATIONSHIP with Christ is what we as Christians are supposed to have. It’s not meant to be a shot at the history of what religion has been, but kind of yes at the same time. “Religion” is what put Jesus on the cross. “Religion” is what prompted mass genocide of people who had a different religion than the powers that be. I, too, also grew up in the church and was not looking for validation of any sort about why I do not go to church, but I 100% understood what Tye Tribbett meant by everything that he said. Lastly, the Breakfast Club is not the proper audience because you don’t know their upbringing? How is that relevant? Are they not allowed to think that church has become whack because of their own beliefs and experiences? All love, but those who have stepped away from the church because of hurts and offenses don’t need outside validation because stepping away was already hard enough to begin with. Tye Tribbett said what he said and he said it where he said; the people who edited it and clipped it may have done so to be facetious but Tye’s feelings and statements are beyond valid. ❤❤

[@angelique707]

I love this whole response! Thank you!

[@crystaltruitt4523]

I don't think she missed the point because that's what she initially said. Her other point was saying that people who already didn't believe or were on the fence would use this as ammunition to validate how they already felt.

[@nmw654]

@@crystaltruitt4523but it does validate them. They were able to come to that conclusion by watching how those in the church move in and outside of it so to hear someone from inside speak to it, it can validate that and that’s ok. If people think it’s ok to validate someone who thinks church and religion saved them, then be prepared to also have views of the opposite because they both exist.

[@shevaunbryant8554]

​@crystaltruitt4523 those people you describe have so many other things to validate their beliefs it doesn't even matter...everything there is a story about a pastor engaging in inappropriate relationships...validation, a mother pastor building a mega church in a poor area...validate the list goes on.

[@Melanated.Royal.Queen24]

@@angelique707you’re very welcome, love!! ❤❤ I typically just watch/listen, but this one was different lol

[@keke_LunarGemini]

Church is wack. The separation, the judgement, the "holier than thou," attitudes are wack. True Christianity and having real relationship with God is awesome. I get Tye's point and love the conversation that it is bringing up. Hopefully, it will lead to change.

[@Goldenswayzee]

Exactly. Most people are avoiding the real issue at hand and focusing on the platform of where it was said which is pointless. Totally ignoring the real issues

[@Chazcott]

Unfortunately I think it will just promote more conversations at this time.. we honestly just need people to pass on to the upper room at this point. Leaders of church, the country, the state gov offices, city offices, they are holding onto positions of power for DEAR LIFE. We need reform in so many areas of the country and the major religions of the country are no exception. But for now, we’ll keep talking

[@Jasminemarie94]

What do you mean by the separation?

[@nicolelewis6312]

Honestly, what your saying is that certain people in life no matter the location are wack because every single reason you mentioned is also found outside the church.

[@trulyt247]

@@nicolelewis6312 but the church is the one place you shouldn’t find it.

[@LahTahShuh]

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NAACP IMAGE AWARD! WELL DESERVED! ❤🎬

[@calvertproductions60]

Kev stood on bidness. Sometimes people are too emotionally connected to a topic to speak reasonably and objectively.

[@mprysock07]

Agree with Kev…We don’t even know if the people who are in church are churchy? Just cause you’re there doesn’t mean God is in you. Also, agree that he answered a question that provoked the conversation.

[@blazenfate]

100% agree with kev. Black ppl dont like our mess and problems being talked about "out loud" or in public, to the point where we shun other black ppl that have the balls to actually speak about why there are problems, especially if ANY of those problems are caused by other black ppl. How the hell can we stick together and fight, when we literally punch each other back down wherever we asked for help against others that match our skin. We don't even have to go far in our history to see examples, the Katt williams interview was just another one. Black ppl will die on a hill trying to block any wrongs famous black ppl do to other black ppl. Oprah, Bill cosby, R kelly, the list is much longer than most even realize.

[@markdaley9770]

Definitely agree with you.

[@MsJasmineMartin]

Agree and well said.

[@kymmieg6110]

Totally agree! This was a topic on TikTok about a girl who said she is scared of crash outs from the hood. Some people in the comment made it seem like she said it was everyone from the hood.

[@Alwaysbelieve619]

Lumping in Oprah, with r Kelly and bill cosby is crazy. Just opportunistic capitalist doesn’t mean that she’s a sex abuser come on now.

[@nikkilb]

Kev is 1000% correct. You can critique something that you love to make it better and you can have these conversations everywhere. You cannot control how people respond to it.

[@CortishaSkinner]

I do not like when people make comments and they didn’t listen to the whole podcasts..You have to listen to the whole conversation for true context. I agree with Kevin.

[@MrsJulesThomas]

I totally agree. I agree with Kevin as well.

[@tanishagordon2094]

I agree

[@ahsanrogers]

I agree

[@funbrat]

Tye wasn’t worried about clicks he was speaking truth. If “the church” worried about looking bad they need to stop being bad and expecting ppl not to say so.

[@MelissaCarterRue]

Whew!! WAKE IT UP 🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@AJ56909]

I think the reality is that church is filled with sinners. It will Never stop having this aspect of bad because even people that go to church are not perfect. And if people are waiting for that to happen in order for them to go to church, they will literally be waiting until the day they die because it will never happen. And on one hand people say the church is hypocritical because they like to appear perfect, but then people shame the church for that very same thing. And it’s exhausting to say the least. The church is darned if they do and darned if they don’t.

[@isaacscott1063]

YOU are the CHURCH if you you claim to be saved

[@BCFoolin]

I’m with Kev. The definition of religion is literally a “system of faith and worship”

[@deviousintentions1949]

Love seeing Kev in conversations like these. Always a good thing to see a brother using his head while keeping his faith.

[@kymmieg6110]

I think he was very clear and people who don't go to church already felt what Tye was speaking on. Yes to Kirk saying it as well. I agree with Kev. I grew up as a JW kid and eventually went to Baptist church. Your personal relationship with God is your personal relationship and that is so lost in Church. I hear people praise their Pastor more than Jesus and I totally feel like Christianity is a business to pimp God & Jesus.

[@MrJayKay11]

yea i dont know where angel was getting her point he clearly said what he meant

[@kymmieg6110]

@@MrJayKay11 I don't know either especially since she didn't see the full interview.

[@jesuslopezrosas787]

I feel like Kev touched the subject on why Angel was upset about the comments. She heard "the church is wack" and took it personal 🤣

[@nana-pp9kr]

literally heard what she wanted to hear like kev said lmaoo. we're all guilty of it tho

[@GardenGyrl]

Agreed and yes we all do it from time to time but this one was evident

[@DesireLevy227]

Nothing wrong with admitting your point was wrong based on what was factually said. Not saying “hypothetically I’m not wrong if he did say that”.... I’m like ninja what??? 😂😂😂

[@casandratappin6349]

Bingo!

[@racketdot]

To deconstruct is to be uncomfortable. For Churchy people, it’s kind of like someone saying something *not so great* about your parents that’s actually true. It’s uncomfortable but it may be necessary once we grow up and see that our parents are just people. Maybe our parents need to learn how to speak to service people a bit better. Maybe the Church needs to rethink certain aspects of their function. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@joygirl09]

That was a great example!

[@NaomiBrown1]

I 100% agree with Tye and Kevin: the systems and the institutions of the church are WHACK. He was very clear in what he meant. Hit dogs just hollering 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@fallynbell2976]

I'm with Kev on this one. As a believer and a regular listener of TBC, think it was a good conversation to have because you don't know what God's intentions were to place him there and have it.

[@WillieEarlSon]

I believe we lose that at time the thought that God could have a person in a position for a reason

[@thriftstorescoffeeshops]

Absolutely.

[@Dionne3116]

To me the outrage about where he said it from the ‘church folks’ validates what he said! It gives Christianity performance

[@DIVAGIRL10101]

Tye was not responsible for what editors decided to clip together. He was in the midst of a conversation, and he has no control over “nuance” on a show he does not produce. He can clarify all he wants but ppl will still get offended, and pick apart his words. If you get the message you get it, if you don’t you don’t.

[@thriftstorescoffeeshops]

This.

[@katelynbrown98]

Tye has suffered from depression and interacts with people from all walks of life & all across the world. He has *valid* points. Many people feel more at peace once they've deconstructed than when they're _in_ the church. I can't imagine what it'd be like to have actual family in the church. I support Tye

[@KeilaniFilms]

I 100 percent agree with Kev regarding what Tye said 100%

[@LiyaZuluM]

I too shouted Amen!

[@djanaybabyblue]

As a PK, who has been in church ALL my life, I understood Tye's sentiments because actual CHURCH is the people not a building, HOWEVER, he could have stated it differently lol because he just said "even though I grew up in it and benefited from it..." that negates everything because actual church is serving, loving, giving, and being a community of people who love God, his people, and just want to follow Christ and do His will. He should have just said Jesus>Religion because all that extra is man made. Just love God and his people. But a REAL CHURCH (body of Christ) is not whack lol again I get him but he has such a huge name "in the church" he could have stated it differently lol so yeah I agree with Angel he was reckless you have to speak higher not lower especially on that type of platform.

[@sbtm85]

Completely agree with you!!!

[@bigmac9726]

Me too!!

[@eebz5]

Amen

[@Jasminemarie94]

Well said.

[@tiannawoods9450]

I am so glad that he posted that He HAS been saying it in the church. It’s funny when church business is placed in the main media it forced the home grown churches that weren’t having the conversation forced the conversation. The main point is the conversation needed to be had

[@kayd690]

Jesus thought the “system” was wack too, then busted it up. All the deeply Christian folk probably wouldn’t even like Jesus for real if he was walking around preaching and healing. I’m a believer and I have notes for how it’s being carried out

[@thriftstorescoffeeshops]

Exactly 😂

[@ebzb9956]

I enjoy church, the fellowship and touching and agreeing, being able to praise God with others on one accord. ❤

[@josephlindsey5210]

There’s a reason my mom stopped going to physical churches and has done it from home since 2004. A lot of drama and fake people pretending to be perfect and greed.

[@niqueybangz]

💯💯💯💯

[@shuranalee7503]

I’m with Kev on the Ty situation 🙌🏾 explained perfectly …. And if people don’t understand.., they didn’t want to 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@that1sha405]

Kevin going on mute to tell Monty to HUSH was sooo reminiscent of every time my mama would mute the phone to yell at us growing up. Monty getting getting a whooping after the podcast 😆

[@MsMakeba]

This episode of the NAACP Image Award-winning podcast is such a valuable lesson in being swift to hear and slow to anger. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Great example of an adult discourse rather than a childish disagreement. Grow up in God not just in church. 🙏🏿 #spiritualjourney #RelationshipGoals #RelationshipOverReligion #spiritualgrowth #ChurchyOnBETPlus

[@akireodd]

Thank you for being consistent. Your work ethic is definitely appreciated

[@jerishawebb3263]

I love Angel but she just didn't get it. She's stuck on his intention and where he said it. He did not go to there to make the statement about the church. He went there, was asked a question, and he answered it. Period.

[@thriftstorescoffeeshops]

That part

[@Wherethewildthingsareone]

This conversation needs to happen

[@MadameFleece]

I'm with Kev, I'm with Tye!

[@marcavonevans]

Congratulations HTT (KevOnStage, That Chick Angel, & JoshGonz!!!) Btw, Angel is SO beautiful!! I’ve always known but with her hair pulled back you can really see just how effing gorgeous she is!! Shared with all love and respect. Love y’all

[@terica6862]

Face Card never declined!

[@kylejohnson5386]

While not a christian church goer since childhood, 2 things can be true simultaneously... So agree that both Kev and Angel's viewpoints are valid. 👍🏾

[@tr8292]

Salute to HTT for FINALLY doing like every other youtube channel and playing a video clip instead of being ghetto and putting his phone to the mic.

[@feebaby88]

😂

[@nca4794]

Damn 😅

[@Chazcott]

Everyone starts somewhere lol

[@duntaejones6107]

I was thinking the same thing 😂.

[@empoweryouwellnessandtarot]

Not that serious

[@LizLaneTheBrand]

Furthermore, church people would’ve been upset even if he explained it to a t. I wish we (church people) would stop making the choice to be obtuse in these moments. Instead of being upset at the critique, why not use it as an opportunity to start the conversation??

[@austinwilson8134]

Telling someone when and how to express what they feel or their experience is wack!!

[@NaturallyNelly612]

I literally saw I video yesterday..where the pastor had his congregation repeat over and over "fill me daddy...fill me daddy". Now where they do that at? I love me some God but church homes are not what they used to be.

[@sweetmercifulj]

What the fk 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@traceycheking]

😳😳😳

[@ae0ns]

I have an aunt that refers to God as ‘daddy’ and it gives me ick 😖😖

[@momi1610]

The issue is that folks conflate church with religion/faith. Church isn't Christianity. It's a place or institution that facilitates the teachings of a religion/ideology. Christ and God are everywhere. Are there churches and pastors that facilitate true community and who have actually helped its congregation (and not just the church leaders) to advance in their lives, yes. But, there are also many that have not, and that's what Tye was speaking to.

[@Nazdaq05]

Religion has been a political tool since at least Constantine

[@TheKittyGalore]

AWARD WINNING PODCAST HERE'S THE THING🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@H-W.5519]

Yeah, I understood exactly what he was saying from the beginning. I think everyone should watch the full episodes for CONTEXT before assuming, misconstruing and judging. Y’all did great on the recap and reflection of the episode. Thanks Kev and Angel!

[@atheophile00]

Side note: Angel is so freaking pretty!! 😍❤️

[@celestineclark5256]

I truly don't think he 'planned' on saying it. More like responding to a question.

[@DesireLevy227]

Right, and no one can predict how they’ll be edited.

[@thriftstorescoffeeshops]

Same

[@colettebenson9658]

I agree with Tye’s statements wholeheartedly. A personal relationship with Christ should not be attached to a building or a minister. I also agree with Angel & Kev’s points that there are some nuances to the conversation that could be missed by the Breakfast Club audience based on clips for clicks. To be fair I think people who didn’t get what he was saying after he clarified will not get it because they don’t want to.

[@Kayerickawall40]

Ty explained himself perfectly and his relationship with God. Don't discuss something if you didn't watch the whole interview. This is the problem with the world. Kevin thank you for listening to the whole interview. People need to stop disrespecting and dissecting people's opinions.

[@Sing4JCOnly2]

Thank you!! I was looking for this comment.

[@Muvanature]

The consistency whilst touring is greatly appreciated 🙌🏽

[@donlisascott5273]

On Tye..Angel is on point. Totally agree.

[@adiamondintherough171]

Good morning. I agree with Tye especially after dating a pastor.

[@thatgirlkells5505]

Spill the tea!!!!🍵

[@adhd_alchemy]

"Who the ordained did I date" - Ep 1...LEGGOOOO!

[@adiamondintherough171]

@@adhd_alchemy girl the story is crazy but Teesa got me beat.

[@adhd_alchemy]

😂😂😂 Girl....crazy is crazy and we welcome it all. No competition....just different flavors.

[@WordWoman111]

Same. I would have an bestseller, but would need to fictionalize it

[@WordWoman111]

I have a problem with Angela’s opinion since she hasn’t listened to entire interview. How can you form an opinion off 45 seconds?

[@thriftstorescoffeeshops]

That's what I'm saying lol 😂 The point is....Angel didnt even watch the full podcast 😂😂😂. Sis you gotta watch everything first.

[@kiriathrivera7092]

I heard it the way Kevin heard it. He isn’t talking about the body, he is talking about the institution, and all the politics that go along with it.

[@mrs.robbiek2772]

I can't stand when people try to act like folks are unreasonable when they say "This is why I don't go to church." Yall know good and doggone well people don't mean that specific reason. They mean is decades upon decades of PATTERNED BEHAVIOR that makes them not want to to be bothered with church.

[@DomSr]

The church is VERY necessary and is MUCH needed. The main point of the church is fellowship, worshipping, learning, and praying. However, I do understand people's negative thoughts against mega churches because most go against those principles and are more centered around money. BUT, the church in general is very much so necessary and needed.

[@SJP43]

It’s not needed the most anointed, devoted Christians I’ve ever met do not go to church.

[@terica6862]

I agree. The Bible tells us not to forsake the gathering of ourselves. I am reignited and energized by church attendance, worship, engagement, praise, and service weekly. I get church hurt and the foolishness that can happen in church; but God meets me there in tangible ways.

[@nmoomoo]

but a lot of people have had terrible experiences with smaller churches too. it's not just the mega churches

[@nana-pp9kr]

needed for what

[@greenytaddict]

@@nana-pp9kr to keep brain washing people

[@silverbeautifullight]

More and more people have left the church for the reasons tye spoke. So I think it's good for people to see that there are others who share thoughts about the church and that there are places where they can go that share their beliefs and where they can still worship.

[@Tpierre1993]

BIG CONGRATS on winning the NAACP!!!💕💐well deserve

[@YWiggy5]

The title of this video is the reason I clicked it. In the same way, I see it being very possible that Tye made his statements to bring people into a discussion. Either way, I love watching mature adults respectfully disagree and have safe space to speak how they feel. Thank you all for this discussion! ❤

[@justinalexander1056]

I agree 100% with Tye and kev. But I can also agree when she said say it on the reunion tour. I agree with everyone. My question to angel is, is the problem the persons message or how people will respond and have responded? Can’t blame the responses of people.

[@Passion84GodAlways]

CONGRATULATIONS HTT!!! 🥳🙌🏾🙏🏾🎬👼🏾📸

[@tomiakinwande]

CONGRATULATIONS WELL DESERVED!!! I love this podcast!

[@casandratappin6349]

I want to say this... people leave the church becsuse the road of obedience to God is narrow. I had a very close friend who always said she admired my faith tell me a dream she had about how she was driving in the dark and couldn't see, until she saw me, and I was trying to direct her to the light. I knew what that meant and really tried my best to support her without judgement or being pushy. She eventually found a church home, but was always so skeptical. One day someone told her a truth about her life she didn't like and she left the church and stopped talking to me, all becsuse we loved her enough to tell her the truth! We haven't talked ever since. It is their choice to walk away from God. They were never thinking of the church.

[@stephg3239]

Great Job Kevin! Angel got it wrong and didn’t want to admit it. Plain and simple. We understood Tye and we understood you.

[@MelissaCarterRue]

Angel saying its not the place but Tye has been preaching this in CHURCHES for years and nobody cared...so it took a secular platform to get people talking. Point made.

[@loovej]

I agree with both of you concerning Tye Tribbett's comment. And I got what Tye meant when he said it.

[@nokuthula_q]

I agree with you

[@LadyE1045]

This was such a great conversation! I love to see it. Keep shining, we need these mature conversations with respectful nuanced perspectives.

[@Testtesttest777]

Angel’s perspective is proving Tye’s point 😭

[@Testtesttest777]

Also it’s wild how she didn’t apologize at 42:40 when she was CLEARLY wrong and misquoted Tye 😂. Her double down is legendary atp 😭. Cause why be wrong when I could be loud AND wrong

[@LiyaZuluM]

100% The irony

[@Jasminemarie94]

@@Testtesttest777 ofc she’s not going to lol.

[@ladye7757]

@thatchickangel: “What Tye said was reckless” Also thatchickangel: “Twerk for Jesus” 😂😂😂😂

[@cafepiel82]

Congratulations on your NAACP win. It is well deserved.

[@MrJayb22]

It’s like that one time Maddie Mae clark got told she couldn’t be the choir Director anymore because of the dress she wore at the Grammys with her daughters performing

[@DesireLevy227]

Dang Angel you could’ve admitted you missed the mark with Tye lol. How someone didn’t say what you thought they said and still stand 10 toes down on what you THOUGHT they said. Who supposed to predict how editors cut what you say in videos when you blatantly said nothing wrong. Repeat after me Angel, “oh shit, my bad, I was wrong”😂😂😂😂 It’s okay for that to happen to even the best of us.

[@karladunlap7438]

I agree with Angel. As someone who grew up In church and church is still a pillar in my life, I understand what Tye was saying BUT the Breakfast Club is not the place for that conversation.. The Breakfast Club’s platform is to stir up drama. If it wasn’t they wouldn’t have chopped and clipped his comments in the way they did as Kevin mentioned. I think if Tye Tribbett wanted to make those comments on that show he needed to be more intentional in his delivery.

[@thehoneydeev]

Kev, I agree 💯with your standpoint

[@Redtrinichick82]

Congratulations HTT fam!! So well deserved! Proud of y’all! 🎉🎉

[@traseebradley5415]

Love this! Like you Kev, I watched the entire interview and I think it was fantastic! If people watched the entire thing they would see and understand it more. I love Ty and Kirk and the stance that it's about the body of Christ and the fellowship of believers gathering wherever. I love my church FBCG, but we are taught to develop dynamic disciples which happens any and everywhere, not just in the building. Kev made some EXCELLENT points!!!! "We shouldn't reserve critiques of the church for only church pulpits." Amen!

[@LoquaciousPint]

I have really enjoyed hearing the two of you discuss topics that you have differing opinions on. Healthy debate stretches the mind and when done with mutual respect, it's pretty enjoyable to watch and engage in.

[@MaxineShaw_84]

Fully agree with Kevin and the deflection away from the message onto how & where Tye delivered it is why things take so long to progress. Total derailment each time Kev tried to bring it back to the critique that churchy folk claim is welcome. Frustrating.

[@stephaniestewart6308]

Totally Agree Angel. It felt like click bait, SMH.

[@HighPriestess33]

This was such a wonderful conversation!

[@empoweryouwellnessandtarot]

Don't agree with angel... Feel like angel is still in the keep it in the household mentality. The fact angel keep saying he said religion is wack shows she's not listening. He is clearly saying the institution. The issue with keeping it in the household is usually the ppl in said household are so indoctrinated that it would be taken as a personal attack so nothing will ultimately be done. I feel Ty had to take it outside... Yes it was bold but necessary so that the conversations can TRULY be had in depth without as much bias injected as possible...

[@taleo4304]

I’m confused as to why people are confused about what Tye said. It’s mostly people that grew up churchy and or did not listen to the WHOLE INTERVIEW taking the most offense.

[@ahsanrogers]

Facts

[@julesm7791]

As I mature in Christ my views changed! And that's how I see Tye

[@LiyaZuluM]

USA church-goers sometimes fuss about the most interesting things. It is kinda funny that the citizens of a nation which harps on about freedom (in general) and freedom of speech, is so quick to police speech (or where the speech was delivered). That is the opinion of one man. Sure he happens to be an influential musician and pastor, but he is a single church-goer. In my opinion, Tye spoke the truth. It is a truth I truly relate with. My 2 years attending church in Texas accelerated my feelings on how the institution of church and religious system (not faith) has lost the plot.

[@joshuadavis9441]

I love Angel !! But she missed the Whole Point !!! I agree with Kev 100 percent!!!!!!!!!!

[@Juliana-hr7zv]

Church numbers are on a steady decline for a reason, we are seeing the truth of what religion is. Angel comes off as stubborn when it comes to this topic. It’s not even the church that caused me to stray it was me thoroughly reading my Bible that caused me to step back it is highly flawed and divisive.

[@hamady08]

31:46 Angel I think the verbatim he said was "....the religious structure is wack", which I think is a nuanced way of talking about the CURRENT status of the structure of religion; and I think it's distinctly different than "I think religion is wack".

[@tapout9742]

Angel is proving tyes point. People hold the church and religion up too high. It is all man made. Nothing about these institutions or religions has anything to do with what we were places on this earth to do or be. It’s like arguing on behalf of a corporation

[@PHILDR85]

I totally get and understand what Tye was saying and I also understand Angel's point as well, there wasn't enough space or time for him to fully get to his meaning behind "the church is whack" as someone who seemed to live at the church i get what Tye was meaning.

[@khadeejahgrier]

Angel church people are not the Church. There is a whole bunch of nonbelievers attending little 'c' church. But big 'C' Church is based on our belief in Jesus and His finished works. We'll only get offended by what Tye said if we identify with church more than Church.

[@vonneyailify]

Just be wrong Angel.. It's okay. With love .😂❤

[@thriftstorescoffeeshops]

😂😂😂

[@itstishadolls2640]

Right! She refuses to admit hey, I may be wrong about this. Lol

[@Cbelly1981]

Yes it’s exhausting. Like girl you were the example of the people he initially described. 😂. Heard what you wanted.

[@amandacurry8781]

CONGRATULATIONS YALL!!! 👏🏾

[@naefrancisco]

I don’t even think Angel needs to watch the full interview. The rewatch of the clip should have been enough to realize Tye was very clear with his words. He wasn’t reckless. And he didn’t say the thing Angel claims he said. But in the age of social media and clip cutting, no matter how clear someone is, people will find a way to discredit or break apart what they said. And they are usually loud and wrong.

[@taniawilson4505]

I feel like angel should watch the entire video bc she talkin about the religion comment that he made but right after he talks about the structure of religion and explains what she wanted him to explain. She goina off of a clip go watch the entire interview.

[@shaunamichele]

I don't understand how folks justify their FULL opinion off a clip.

[@MrJayKay11]

@@shaunamicheleshe didn’t even listen to the tidbit fully

[@jasminemackey8953]

i feel even within the clip he's very clear with what he means. I feel like people are taking it too personally because it feels as if he's critiquing THEIR church. But let's be real, even in the bible it talks about how there can be false pastors and problems within the church. The Pharisees believed in God too after all. Too many people have a problem separating God from the institution which he clearly stated

[@taniawilson4505]

@@jasminemackey8953 period

[@ItsChristyLove]

I 100% agree with Angel! 💯💯💯 If you're going to go THERE, I mean REALLY go there...do it TO the people who are a part of the institution AND can actually change things; NOT just to a random large group. Many of that large group now MAY NEVER be interested in Salvation because they'll NEVER hear the WHOLE INTERVIEW. ALLLL they will Hear/Remember is: a pastor even said "church is wack"! #ExtremelyRECKLESS 😐 ps- Tye is not completely wrong. The Millions who listen to the Breakfast Club is the WRONG AUDIENCE and also how TBC cut it up is wrong AND MISLEADING. I hope his intentions were PURE. IDK🤷🏾‍♀️

[@naefrancisco]

Side note: the silent ‘Monty! HUSH!’ got me crying 🤣

[@KriticalThinker137]

Undeniably, Reesa Teesa gave us a well-told story. For this reason alone she deserves accolades and talent contracts, even more for revelation of actual trauma. Introduce her to Churchy, Tyler Perry, Mara Brock Akil, Tracey Oliver, Shonda Rhimes, et. al.