The Cinderella Surfskate Deck: Review of the Whitetail Whaleshark surf skate

[@marsmachine1156]

I’m loving mine too! Fantastic deck. Great in the bowl and pumptrack. I am even learning ollies again with it!

[@somrtony]

So glad you found a setup that works for you. For me that is an Alva shortstuff with a Waterborne adapter and Surfskate love wheels

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

Always been a fan of Alva boards!

[@davidrocketship2]

Wow! Great review, great footage, and the quality of the technical features is impressive!

[@whitetailskateboards]

I’m glad you like the technical features of my Whaleshark David, thank you for your comment! Mark is skillfully highlighting them with his style, I can’t wait to see him (and you David) push the limits of surfskating on this deck 🤩

[@imppao]

Well actually I agree with nateross14, your style goes beyond surfskate if by "surfskate" you mean the training for surfing. But I must say I really enjoy your style and your "explorations" in style. So... Keep it up! 🙌 Furthermore, these boards are really impressing and I'm looking forward to get one 😁

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

I started with just the surf training side and carving practice when I first got hooked, but then I didn't find it exciting or challenging enough after the first 6 months. At the end of the day it is about having fun and eventually instead of training to have fun the training became the fun!

[@imppao]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Totally agree!

[@NalaRinaldoTV]

Hi Mark this Whitetail Whaleshark deck really looks great, thank for the info and the review. I would love to have this deck too one day.

[@whitetailskateboards]

Thank you NalaRinaldo! I just subscribed to your channel, your content is amazing! Hit me up if you ever want to get a Whaleshark, I might be able to hook you up with a promo code :)

[@whitetailskateboards]

Hey surfskater! Just want to let you know that Mark’s Whaleshark model (LUSH) has only one 1 left in stock 😅 The Wildlife is also SOLD OUT WOOD (no grip) and Rainforest have couple more left!

[@AshbalGabriel]

Looks amazing !!! Sophie's skateboards always have a fantastic look ! Can't wait to try this board soon 😍😍😍 Great review !

[@surfskatedad]

Mark, thank you for your review and your contribution for making alive the evolution of surfskate. One question if I may: how deep is the concave compared to the deck of a YOW snapper? Do you feel a real difference on how the board stick to your foot in the bowl?

[@reggieandrade4098]

You just had to come out with this video. Now the Whaleshark board I wanted are sold out!! Lol. Amazing riding and review.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

Oh no! Hopefully there is more stock on the way!

[@whitetailskateboards]

Hi Reggie, Thanks for mentioning it and for your interest in my decks. We could definitely work something out, I just contacted you in private. Sorry about that though, Wildlife has been selling really fast 😅

[@reggieandrade4098]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Sophie is taking care of it 😀 many thanks. Always look forward to your vids.

[@reggieandrade4098]

@@whitetailskateboards 👍

[@peters219]

I used to use regular skateboards when I was starting to surf and I got good at both really fast. Fast forward to today, and I haven't skated in years but still surf; I find the decks for surf skates don't stick to my feet like I was used to with regular concaved and rockered decks(heavy, flat, low to no rocker). I switched to a regular narrow wb skateboard was right away locked in. It sounds like you guys fully understand and this deck solves the issue. Looking forward to getting one. I just need to figure out how to remind myself to keep the front foot behind the truck bolts for the yow.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

Sounds like this is the deck you were waiting for also!

[@KINOSHINOBI]

And the griptape is fire too 🔥

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

So amazing that the side I see looks so beautiful!

[@marknelson6348]

Looks amazing! Mark, what's the truck setup you prefer on this deck? Are those the cx or c5 carvers i see on there? I'm building a park oriented surfskate, I have a waterborne setup at the moment. Took it to the bowl yesterday (first time in 14 years!) and loved it, but i want something a bit lower to the ground and a LOT more stable on fakie. I was thinking the carver c5's were the way, but I would love to know your thoughts. Grats on your sponsorship! I've been watching your videos a lot lately, and your progression is incredible.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

Hey Mark, what I love about having a deck sponsor is having flexibility to use any trucks because I like different ones for different applications. I set my board up with the qwik truks quick release system so I can swap back and forth in an instant (review will be coming soon). Based on your description of what you are looking for, C5s might be a good option: They are low and one of the few trucks that works well going fakie. But if you are used to waterborne they may feel tight at first. Recently my favourite surf carving setup has been with C7 trucks, which is strange because I have kind of come full circle to one of the first surfskate systems I started with, but they just feel good on this deck and grind really well on coping and curbs.

[@0W3NC]

Looks sick! Have you tried the peralta dragon formula wheels? My skatepark is super new and I find I have too much grip with other softer wheels

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

I have them on right now in Mexico. Will be doing a review at some point.

[@JPPBOX]

Love this review and everything I'm seeing about this board so far! If you drilled a 15" WB on one of these, would you be able to mount back to back Qwik truck plates at 15 and 21 WB so you could hot swap the wheelbase and trucks?

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

That is a really interesting idea! I haven't measured but I wonder if the second deck plate would interfere when trying to slide in and out. I'll take a look later when I have access.

[@miryanapg7097]

Beautiful board

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

I love the shape and the lightness of the morningwood, and the different wheelbase options but the five ply fibreglass construction just never fully grew on me. The pop was different and the sound was kind of crackly and it made my brain think it was delicate even though I know it is solid. And the width of the Whaleshark just feels right under foot. So on paper, both look awesome, but to me when it came to the feel, the Whaleshark just instantly felt comfortable and familiar underfoot whereas the MW always felt like something a bit foreign.

[@camu233]

technical question here : how often did you have to change or replace / reapair meriaki or carver cx truck with your riding style. I'm holding up myself to try olli or drop with these kind of trucks because i'm afraid to broke them.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

People don't believe me when I tell them this but I've never actually broken a surfskate truck to the point of being unusable. The worst I have done is snap a swelltech spring which is very common. I also stripped out the threads from a Meraki adapter by riding down an unpaved mountain, but I was able to rethread it with a tap and keep using it. I have snapped a couple decks though.

[@camu233]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Hey ! Thanks for sharing your experience. Good work with your channel and video. Hi from Quebec rider !

[@WRandallHead]

Carver trucks are covered by a lifetime warranty, so no worries if you go that route. YOW has a 2 year warranty, but seem pretty solid. Though if you want to ride like this, I'd recommend against the YOW because it is WAY heavier, and the warranty on the carver is just a no brainer.

[@open_ogen9]

How do you compare it with Soulboardiy decks?

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

I haven't tried one. I've heard good things, but the shapes don't stand out to me as suited to my style.

[@quickfingers5982]

do you have qwiktruks with this?

[@goofyfootgreg]

Looks good ✌️

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

For your style of riding, this would be perfect

[@goofyfootgreg]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer But given my size, I might need the Baby Shark version 🤣✌️

[@goofyfootgreg]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer But given my size, I might need the Baby Shark version 🤣✌️

[@danielpabon375]

Have you tried Soulboardiy? If not, I recommend you do before making a decision with that deck.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

I’ve heard good things, just never from someone who rides like me. So it could surprise me like the Smoothstar but the shape doesn’t speak to me enough to buy one on a chance.

[@danielpabon375]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I can see why that board makes more sense for you. You’re more on the surfskate/skateboard style of riding. I totally get it. Makes sense.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

@@danielpabon375 I do love cruising and carving too, but I have like 10+ decks that already do that very well. This is the first one that caters to those who want to push the envelope on the skate side of things while still being a very effective carving board.

[@michalmularski7833]

Review made me curious and deck looks nice indeed but I am riding 19-20 inches WB decks so that is a deal breaker for me especially as my main adapter is a thruster.

[@Quickrex]

I have the soulboardiy Adam. Uummhh it's little overhyped. Really nice Quality wood 🪵 👌 for carving and pumping just perfect but due to the torsional flex it just feels weird when skating in a bowl. I don't really use it anymore. But said, if you like flatground then it's perfect. It's a little like the old school slalom boards. I think if you snowboards then you would feel right at home. I'm surfing and would say that it feel like a noddle. Some like it some don't. But again I payed 200€ and now it's hanging on the wall in the garage.

[@Quickrex]

Hi Mark do you mind to give me the concave measures. I suggest that when you review deck and trucks give a little more details close up, in this case the concave what really set this deck apart. Most of my decks are 12mm to 15mm. One thing more, how long is the tail and nose. Understand that the deck as concave from tail to the nose as well or just standard, like from end of the tail middle to begins of the nose.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

If I am measuring it right it seems 11mm deep for concave through the rails but dips down to create pockets at the nose and tail. Nose is 6" to the bolts and the Tail about 6.75". Would be a good idea to include this moving forward, thanks for the suggestion.

[@Quickrex]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Thank you.11mm uummhh definitely more concave than a average skateboard or a standard surfskate for that matter. Probably won't be up my alley to wide for my feet size. Looking at video it seams that you have a set of Elefant feet. It's seams that the deck is tailored for you😀. I normally buy quality decks and trucks only. Maybe about 6 months ago I was in Decathlon to buy a new deck for my boy and saw this cruiser Yamba 900 ( 30.3 9.3 14.25) felt amazing under my feet and the concave is perfect steep 🗻 🪜 15mm almost across the board. Even the wheel well is perfect I use qwik mounts so lots of different trucks tested and haven't seen any skids marks outside the dugouts amazing. The wood grains is not looking like the best quality out there but the glue process is perfect somehow compensating for it. The outline is perfect. Hands down the best Hybrid skateboard on the market. They probably copied Landyacth and made it better. I wanted to get an ATV ditch life but only comes complete. Polar trucks me no like. Setup Cavers C5, CX, Surf Rodz 159mm and Curfboard when I go squirrely. To lazy to try the YOW. I have the old version S4 the danger model I'm 80 kgs I will probably die trying. Bought the demo model 45€. Landyacth is 200+€ + shipping. Finally something that was tailored for me. Maybe the 9.3 with the step concave is not for your feet. ATV ditch life is 9.75 by 31.0 ish.... . My Soulbordiy I call it the Noddle is getting dusty, actually all my deck are stacked up on top of each other. Honestly the only thing that matters is the wheelbase 14.25 it's short but with the C5 setup I can turn as tight as the Yow on a longer wheelbase but get more power and return with less effort from the C5. Orangatang bushings amazing on the Cavers. To finally get story ending. Simply the list is longer what you can do with the C5 reversed kingpin short wheelbase. I was in contact with Landyacth nice guys. I'm sure that the will give you one to try out with your social media platform. I would love to see a review. I'm mostly in the skatepark ramps and Bowl exactly where the C5 is at it's best.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

@@Quickrex Did you hear the one about the guy with big feet? He had a huge deck.

[@Quickrex]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer yes. Like big hands big deck, doesn't make sense in skateboard terms. Trying to type with my bloody sausage fingers 🤣

[@djweeks_maui]

What wheel size and hardness? Lahaina Skate Park!

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

My riding is so wide ranging that I use different ones for different applications - That is why I love the qwiktruks system so I can instantly swap the the trucks and wheels that best suit the job. But generally I would be riding in the 60-65mm range and 81-86a range. My Patreon channel has a rundown of my favourite wheels out of 26 different ones I've tried: www.patreon.com/posts/surfskate-wheel-84138620

[@michal4862]

I’m still in love with the Skalle sry ;)

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

No need to apologize, the Skalle is a great board

[@michal4862]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer btw would you say the 17 inch wheelbase of Yow is comparable with the same wheelbase by a carver cx? I mean because of the different systems it might be difficult to compare

[@bigwavedaveskate]

What wheels do you like to use for the park?

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

There are a lot I like, but sort of depends on what I am trying. Surfskate Love 65mm are a good all around wheel for bowl riding and slides. Santa Cruz 95a Scudwads are good for tricks where I need more of a hard wheel slide like if doing my custom trick the landslide or any noseslides, bluntslides, crooked grind or other tricks where the wheels rub, and The Orangatang love handles are fun also.

[@bigwavedaveskate]

@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Thx Mark! I see you got the e skate bug now too!! It’s soo fun. Especially with double kingpin trucks since you’re a surf skater.

[@williammadray7818]

Braille Old School Classic deck 33"×10"×16" WB (medium/deep concave)

[@Groovetube18]

How has this board been for you? What trucks were used?

[@williammadray7818]

@@Groovetube18 I used it for a high performance surfskate. Braille Old School Classic deck/Waterborne high performance surfskate conversion kit, Bustin 129mm TKP trucks, Bustin built in ceramic bearings, Surfskate Love (surfskate specific) 65mm 78a wheels (front) 65mm 81a wheels (back) It absolutely worked out great for the ultimate midlength surfboard surf emulation type experience. The specs, concave and kicktail setup is perfect for either a surfskate and maybe even better as a cruiser board upgrade. 33"L×10"W×16"WB

[@Groovetube18]

@@williammadray7818 I was interested in the Whitetail. But can’t find a reason to spend that much more when there’s another option out there that is similar at 1/3 of the cost. Thanks for the recommendation. My board is on its way soon. I plan on using it with a CX or C7 setup.

[@williammadray7818]

@@Groovetube18 If you are looking for something a little shorter with a little shorter wheelbase, I got a Braille Old School Fish 🐟 shape Monster deck today and I think I have finally found what I'm looking for, designed by Paul Schmidt as well,the Braille Monster deck has TWO different wheelbases. Monster dimensions: 30"L×10,15"W× 14.75"WB and a15.50"WB, what I've been seeking in this shape for awhile. Similar to the YOW Skalle.

[@williammadray7818]

@@Groovetube18 For the CX id like to try the Andy Andersen Flight Deck series 9.25" W version.

[@christopetkov4168]

what is confusing about this review is that you’re showing the Flamingo Evergreen (31’’) but you’re reviewing the Whaleshark (34’’) this makes it confusing to really understand which board to source .. especially when trying to find the right custom deck for a preferred truck system (I use the Curfboard truck) .. so now I’m a bit at a loss whether to go TigerShark / Flamingo or Whaleshark :(

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

This review video was made well before the Flamingo was even a concept, only Whalesharks in this video. But I really like them with the curfboard trucks.

[@christopetkov4168]

Thank You very much for your reply - thats very nice of you! Also (in general) thank you very much for all of the incredibly holistic work you’ve done - I’m learning a lot from every vid! Lastly (to clarify) I’m stuck between 3 x choices for the Curfboard truck system (considering that the Wave SE is 29” with an 18” wb) : Skalle TigerShark WhaleShark Which one would you (from your experience) go with?

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

@christopetkov4168 Out of those I love them on the Whaleshark. That snappier wheelbase is great at the skatepark and in a bowl with tight corners it is incredible, and the concave that Curfboard decks dont have. I have a tigershark with a remora to extend the wheelbase to 18" and that setup is nice for just pumping and carving on flat. Haven't tried on the skalle, but imagine it might feel somewhere in between

[@christopetkov4168]

THANK YOU so much! I’ll order a WhaleShark today :)

[@christopetkov4168]

had to come back for a quick feedback this board is really really good - its so good, it almost feels like cheating going from 29” to 34” (and the weight increase that goes along with that) takes a quick minute to adjust .. the board is literally a ‘whale’, but once you figure it out, its super nimble and slides so easy, while being very stable cant underscore enough how locked in and stable it is thanks for all your great advice - I appreciate you!!

[@nateross14]

I feel like your definition of surfskating is perhaps fairly narrow. Park, bowl, and trick Surfskating is just one fragment of surfskating. The functional design you talk of regarding having kick noses and tails, excess concave etc, are only functional for park, bowl, trick riding. For carvers, cruisers, surfsimulators, and a whole huge other spectrum of surfskating, nose and kick tails are completely non-functional and undesired. In other types of Surfskating, pintails and flat shapes are what you would call functional designs. Trick, park, and bowl skating is cool for those who enjoy it, but I see a tendency for those who do it to project their preferences on the entire Surfskating community as though their segment defines and applies to all of Surfskating. I'm fine with sharing the name Surfskating with all aspects and styles of the sport, but I feel with the narrow interpretation I see with the shortboard trick/park riders, wanting to define surfskating according to their specific parameters, perhaps they should call what they're doing something else other than Surfskating. Technically speaking, the pintail, flat longboard, rail to rail carving style of Surfskating is far closer to what the name Surfskate implies/describes, than short boards designed with nose and kick tails.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

Nate, I know you have been a long time viewer and want you to know that I appreciate that. I understand what you are saying and maybe I am wrong to assume that viewers can get a feel for my style of riding from my videos by now, but by no means do I think that my style is the only one - It is definitely skewed towards the skateboarding side of the spectrum. There are lots of other KZbinrs out there making content on the other end, so I think the community as a whole covers the bases. I want to be clear that I have never tried to define what surfskating is or isn't with specific parameters. In my content I am speaking to my own experience and what I like. So far 98% of boards have been designed towards the other end of the spectrum so I am not going to apologize for being excited about this one nor did I intend to imply that this board should replace the long flat pintail surfskate in your quiver! I definitely disagree with the last part of your comment, I don't think we need to police what qualifies as "surfskating". Just go out and have fun doing it the way you like.

[@idkidc2573]

maybe its your first time watching this channel, which is fine of course, but in case you didnt know this channel focus on a more sakteboard-like style of surfskating. So having a nose, a tail and concave are very much desired. Of course someone who is only interested in surf simulation wont appreciate a board like this, but I assume those people aren't even watching this channel. And even if they were, I'd say it's pretty easy Mark is talking about his opinion base on his riding style. If you don't like doing tricks thats cool, do whatever you want! Thats what surfskating and all board sports are about in my opinion, adapting the sport in whatever way you see fit to have more fun. But not all videos will catter to your riding style. Also I genuinely don't know where you got the idea that skaters who prefer park/bowl type riding are taking over? 90% of content i see on youtube are people who focus on cruising or surf simulation (which is fine, i even enjoy cruising myself) and 90% of surfskates on stores focus on surfing or cruising, with wide wheels, long wheelbases, no concave, no nose, barely any tail etc. When I want to buy a new deck I literally have to browse for cruiser decks cuz most surfskate decks dont fit my style. And lastly, and I mean no this with no offense, but no one is trying to redefine what surfskating means... except for you. Park and bowl riders aren't claiming curising and surf simulation isnt real surfskating, but youre claiming their style is less valid than yours. Which isnt cool man.

[@Quickrex]

Little bit of a rant there mate. Why are you being a Karen about the definition, respect that skating is about preference and style. A board trucks and some wheel. If I see someone flat ground wiggle wiggle around I’m still saying what’s up dude.

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

@@idkidc2573 When I started my channel, KZbin was saturated with how to pump videos and how to carve videos and how to do flamboyant contrived arm motions that simulate surfing videos. I didn’t see a need to recreate what was already out there so I deliberately focused my channel on the somewhat unique attributes I brought to the scene. It isn’t for everyone but I am glad that there is a niche audience that appreciates it. Even though my channel is more focused on the more intermediate or advanced or stuff-nobody-else-even-wants-to-try, I also genuinely love cruising and carving and slaloming and all the other sides of surfskating. It is awesome all around!

[@MarktheLandlockedSurfer]

@@Quickrex I love everything about surfskating, it is so versatile.

[@ashoup7534]

Roll in to a pool

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