The Class Factor in Black Male/Female Relationships

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[@LordLuther17]

You always come with the facts Unc, black folks ignore that factor in relationship dynamics. Class is yet another deciding contributor in mate selection, it’s almost subconscious.

[@RomWills]

It's big.

[@The_Equalizer23]

People on social media struggle with understanding socioeconomic class. Because it is cultivated during childhood. And they think/feel that multiple temporary interactions is entry into high class spaces. It’s possible to move up the socioeconomic classes during adulthood. But only a small percentage of people will. Because it requires an absolute change in one’s environment, behaviors, and beliefs/worldview. “You can pay for school but you can't buy class” - S. Carter

[@RomWills]

Real talk. Even as a child in poor areas, I still had some exposure to higher classes through extended family members. Private high school was a great leap. Even then, I still have some hood elements.

[@JupiterNicoB]

The issue for black Americans is money is what people use as a weapon for class and we have been systematically forced into something lower. So for black Americans they rather chaos than be on the plantation. It’s not a “struggle” of understanding it’s an unconscious and sometimes conscious rebellion.

[@MelanatednNature]

Exactly

[@redwolf8135]

Uncle Rom always spitting facts. Most educated, professional, white collar women will choose a banker, lawyer, sales manager, or financial advisor making $70-$100k a year over a power lineman, electrician, truck driver, or welder making $120-$150k a year. It's all about the perception. Especially with women. They care about how they are perceived by their peers and how their man will be able to mingle. Who can they bring to their professional outings, sorority alumni events, etc.

[@RomWills]

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[@targetegrat]

You are right. My homegirl has a masters degree and was dating this plumber. He wanted a relationship but she did not like the perception of having a blue collar boyfriend. Fast forward this plumber is now buying rental property. I know she regrets her decision.

[@mackeysamuels9954]

@@targetegrat She probably did not regret her decision about the plumber because it is not only about income, but it is also about education, socioeconomic status, and social class. She probably preferred being alone rather than to marry someone outside of her social class.

[@bladerunner27x]

I absolutely SWEAR people act like does not exist in all communities and especially the black community. 80’s and 90’s were when rich and upper middle class black folks started getting a choice to live in other non black neighborhoods and suburbs.

[@liberachi9835]

Probably one of the least talked about but most important topics in black society. Class matters

[@MelanatednNature]

Excellent commentary. I grew up middle/ upperclass in the South and was always taunted by other black girls for being bougie. I was just raised differently thanks to my family. My shortcomings came when I started meshing more amongst certain classes instead of maintaining what my family instilled in me. There's a difference between ghetto fabulous and actually coming from a high-class mentality and lifestyle.

[@miamilamiw]

Love these videos on class. Your socioeconomic class and how you present is set by the environment you grew up in your formative years (before puberty). Affects everything from your speech, to dressing to mentality about life, money and even values. It’s deep

[@kareemlee3872]

It’s the small details when I go to wealthier neighborhoods they tend to jog,Run, workout, and Do yoga more in the hood they’ll clown you for that

[@joelrobert4053]

In the hood, they’ll say your acting white for that

[@andreharris144]

it’s gets even simpler. you’ll see families walking outside together just because. enjoying the scenery around them

[@andreharris144]

@@joelrobert4053 this is for sure, best to ignore those sentiments

[@targetegrat]

I noticed wealthier neighborhoods have simple cars. Thats the sign I know I'm in a rich area. When the homes look nice and most of the cars are Accord and Camry.

[@busyrand]

Cosigning everything... My AKA ex-fiance is currently a doctorate in Psychology. Before I moved to a different part of the country to be closer to her we'd already discussed a further degree path for me to become a doctorate in Education and enter into a mid-six-figure career path that she knew the contacts for. I was already moving to the area to pursue Pharmaceutical Sales, but she had a specific fallback plan in case I wanted to do something else. Furthermore, we'd discussed a long term investment strategy where she could leverage my knowledge of real estate investment with her personal contacts. She was a beauty queen, track athlete, amd everyone knew/liked her... Sadly, I remember being deeply disappointed when I saw how needlessly ghetto her sister was. It was the performative suburban, over the top, fake ghetto impression sisters do akin to guys acting hood...

[@versatylepoetry]

Understanding the "Octanes Theory" really fleshed out what causes a lot of friction black relationships whether platonic or romantic

[@johnharden439]

You and your previous videos were the first thing that I thought about when all of this happened.

[@jholliday3]

Rom it's time to start listening your deep thought & money matters platform.

[@bladerunner27x]

Her drawback is the fact that she missed her window of opportunity, she’s 40 plus, there are very few men in her age group interested in her, because she’s too old and no children will come of the relationship.

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

Why is she even speaking on black men when her last fiancé was a white guy who it didn’t work out with? That’s what I’m tryna understand.

[@AndreTheGiant85]

​@themarathoncontinues4211 Really? I didn't even know all of that. Last I heard she was trying to find a sperm donor and contribute to the single mother epidemic that we have in the community.

[@TheHighValueNurseCJKyles]

@@themarathoncontinues4211 facts

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

@@AndreTheGiant85 I promise that baby is gonna come out looking even lighter than her, prolly will find a white sperm donor. That’s what a lot of sistas do

[@GTPLAYBOY]

I already knew and understood this but Rom discussed this topic extremely well.

[@RomWills]

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[@bossplayermfs5972]

A extraordinary perspective on the subject matter brother Rom 💯💯💯.

[@RomWills]

Class is a deep aspect of the game itself.

[@bossplayermfs5972]

@@RomWills No doubt about it.

[@anthonywilliams9415]

I didn't know that BGS was going to write a book about the Octane scale. That will be brilliant. I still refer to those videos once a quarter. 👍🏾👍🏾

[@doncalypso]

That book is way overdue...

[@anthonywilliams9415]

@@doncalypso 📠

[@ahgtrell]

Truth told

[@ShangoZulu]

Thanks for dropping this video @Rom Wills 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Everyone forgot t he lady in the video said she dealt with other races of men and still run into the same issues

[@rogers5622]

💯she never said black men only

[@adrianthomas373]

Congratulations unc on 70K!!!!!

[@RomWills]

🙏🏾

[@quay5664]

My unc owns a barber shop in Virginia he always taught no matter what a women say or do she still a woman

[@ThaDocta_Evans97]

14:15 Yup insecure by Issa Rae had one of the greatest depictions of social class I’ve ever seen in screen , Molly ( 92 climber ) , Tiffany ( classic 92 ) , Issa ( 85-89 ), Kelli ( a mixture of 85 and 89 simple because of her character and attitude ) and so on folks who watched know what I’m sayin. Still don’t like how it ended though lol 😂

[@NoSmoke2]

That and watching rom and bgs episode reviews was like a masterclass in octane understanding.. what's crazy is they both made Soo many contributions to space it's not eithers Magnus Opus.. still elite and rafters worthy.. a touch above foundational, salute to the brothers 🫡

[@richard4079]

I’m 55 divorced from dc homeowner in Waldorf. Dating is for the birds at this age. Easier to beddown a younger woman. But a grown axs woman in shape is hard to find. I once dated a lawyer I’m a bsn nurse prior military army and air force . Her brother was a doctor , she had 2 sisters that were lawyers and a sister that was a college professor. I was the first in my 4 siblings to complete college and one of my brothers was a jail bird. She had low key issue with folks of certain backgrounds/class. She would always be suggesting that I go back to school for masters / dr degrees.

[@mackeysamuels9954]

@richard4079 It has always been about class and accomplishments. How would you feel (after investing in yourself and your children) that someone who was not on the same socioeconomic level tried to become part of your clan? It is hard to move up to the upper-middle-class. And you have to raise your children to date and marry within the upper-middle-class in order to maintain their class status and wealth into the next generation. That's how it has always been done. Disney movies and Tyler Perry movies have confused the masses.

[@214Craig]

Preciate the knowledge Big Rom.

[@rellconnects4695]

With Yet Another Car Video 🎬 If folks truly knew better they’d do better in regards to dating , mating etc. Today we have a ton of voices on the outside looking at things not understanding what goes on in the selection criteria lifestyle, environment exposure, mindsets.

[@RomWills]

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[@bezglover]

This is my first time seeing you. I like and appreciate this video. I’m like you, I flow relatively easy between all classes. I am in the dmv business and politic environments for what I do. So you are correct in what you are saying. I gel well with 92 men but I can’t stand 92 women generally for prolonged periods. I usually find holes in their thinking and logic that turn me off. Heck, with the class differences, you can take it as far as the time of year the different social classes and groups decide to have their events. It’s truly eye opening. My personal choose of women are generally 89‘s that knows how to step into the 92’s space. That’s just myself personally. But glad BGS posted this. Im going look at more of your content right now. Hope it’s more like this.

[@RomWills]

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[@censorme2day229]

Facts, always keeping it 100!

[@frezsh1]

Unk you done dropped 2 bangers today!!! Ok ok ok ok

[@jajajaja2624]

90% of men date down a CEO can walk in to a fast food spot see a younger women wife her that week . Having dated a women who has over 5M in the bank she had to meet my standards know matter what her income is . If a woman run s across a dude that makes her feel somekind of way she's going think about getting that no what her income is not all cases but right place right time . I hear women but their actions are aways more important .

[@TrillBill]

I'm not offended by what she said, I just think she could've presented it better. Once I found out she was a AKA, everything made sense. You could be a 6-figure software engineer, but if you didn't graduate from the "right" college, or "move" a certain way, you can forget about it.

[@RomWills]

Many people don't know about "Negro Geography."

[@MelanatednNature]

​@RomWills this is interesting 🤔. Thanks for sharing

[@TheHighValueNurseCJKyles]

Rom SPITTIN that ISM!!!!

[@klccostello1273]

Fire content. EKW is delusional because no one is checking for her. She about to hit the wall.

[@ThaDocta_Evans97]

20:20 I see myself that way although I know I’m not where I plan to and am destined to be I still hold to the whole thing of not just being with any ole women despite how good she looks I take class seriously and I’d considered myself in that 89 range currently, but still 85 women and probably most 87’s despite some exceptions can’t even get my attention even if they fine, so as you stated it definitely works both ways

[@danhen223]

You grew up in nat city? Nice. I grew up in lemon grove/south east daygo evtuanlly moved to Oceanside then Point Loma. San Diego is a great example of classism. South Bay full of those 85 octanes then you go to La Jolla it’s nothing but 92’s. A good amount of black kids grow up in that 92 range and act like it lol. Not really too many black middle class out there, usually high class like La Jolla or lower like South Bay.

[@RomWills]

No I was just there as a toddler in the sixties. I still have some memories though.

[@dr.cd2933]

I never understood why we get so upset at a woman's or anyone's dating, sexual, relationship, or marital preferences. Let her be lol. Now the part that BM at that level don't exist is a lie. The real truth is a some women who want those high class dudes weren't able to secure one. That always gets ignored and replaced with that these men don't exist.

[@RomWills]

Real talk. Men at that level have standards.

[@davonbenson4361]

I’m tired of hearing this all women are the same nonsense. All of us don’t have horrible experiences.

[@easyyeye]

14:28 lmaoo em Aka’s like rom cause he look like a que dawg😂😂.

[@RomWills]

Now they are some Playas.

[@easyyeye]

@@RomWills lol my fava and Godfather r que’s

[@domthagreat4065]

7:46 Unless they're easter European

[@busyrand]

People were triggered by the bytchiness of how that lady answered the question. She was indeed voicing a social class distinction, but BlkFolks are super sensitive to being talked down to. Furthermore, she's an AKA Attorney who has had access to the entire totem pole of men in the US. I don't like to refer to women as masculine, because I don't think it's descriptive enough, but I definitely see it in her...

[@kennethyoung4892]

We have always had class issues in the Black community. Just look at the Black church you can clearly see it

[@K-Fetti]

It’s almost like you’re bred…. For that status…. It definitely has its advantages depending on the person and their desires…. But most men don’t even want to be in the club unless you are born into it Michael Jordan adapted into that environment pretty good or do you think it’s more related to time period he grew up in… because his mother in the movie seemed to possess some of those upper echelon characteristics Because that group of men are extremely competitive and it’s funny you said that about the facial hair … Jordan never really wore any… also playing golf Serena and Venus Williams… kind of also successfully made the transition through sports or upbringing?

[@BowieBanks23]

I agree with your video but Eboni is new money also how can a women as attractive as in be 40 be single don’t the men in her class want her ? Since it’s more the money ?

[@RomWills]

It's just as much about behavior. She has money but not the level of class men with money would really want as a wife. She is a climber.

[@BowieBanks23]

@@RomWills I understand 💯

[@shanan1124]

I like these long car videos…👍🏾💪🏾🫡