The Cleveland Clinic X-Ray Incident | A Short Documentary | Fascinating Horror

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Fascinating Horror

Fascinating Horror

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@sapphiresorceress7007
@sapphiresorceress7007 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work at that Cleveland Clinic Campus, there’s a huge memorial about this on the first floor of the original building.
@cathystockton2721
@cathystockton2721 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome
@vNamuie
@vNamuie 3 жыл бұрын
I used to walk through that building a lot and read the history there. I'm surprised I missed the memorial detailing it. Guess I gotta look again.
@daffers2345
@daffers2345 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they have a memorial! Too often we hear that nothing, or almost nothing, was done to remember those lost.
@SockyNoob
@SockyNoob 3 жыл бұрын
The original building is still there?
@miss_tanababy_
@miss_tanababy_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@SockyNoob Did you watch the video? 🤔
@RaptureInRed
@RaptureInRed 3 жыл бұрын
It was a wonderful facility, they did everything right, and a local philanthropist allowed their work to continue while the building was out of commission. One of the least fury-inducing stories you've ever read.
@zeropoint216
@zeropoint216 3 жыл бұрын
Darn rich people, am I right?
@SofaKingShit
@SofaKingShit 3 жыл бұрын
@zeropoint216 I know, rich people are like any other repressed minority, am l right? As this channel has pointed out workers really do have easy, low risk jobs.
@spiritmatter1553
@spiritmatter1553 3 жыл бұрын
Marxist in the chat 💬 again. 😒
@exophthalmos1
@exophthalmos1 3 жыл бұрын
Fury-inducing? What the?
@Celanna192
@Celanna192 3 жыл бұрын
@@exophthalmos1 I think they mean that the accident was not caused by willful negligence on the part of the owner as is the case with many of the disasters covered on this channel.
@alme4898
@alme4898 3 жыл бұрын
"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life."
@logicplague
@logicplague 3 жыл бұрын
Capt. Jean-Luc Picard, great quote
@lithuaniaball
@lithuaniaball 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean "no mistakes"? They had a bare bulb next to film that's damn near explosive. Film that gives off poisonous gas when it burns, and was famous for how ridiculously easy it was to ignite. This wasn't just a mistake, it was an embarrassing one that 4 year old don't make
@alme4898
@alme4898 3 жыл бұрын
@@lithuaniaball i meant they committed no mistakes by the standard of the regulations of that time, they were justified to think that by following the safety regulations they would be safe. NOW we know how dangerous that was and even if they knew how dangerous those things were, their government told them it was safe and they trusted ((I'm trying to get my point across but idk, I'm not a native english speaker))
@lithuaniaball
@lithuaniaball 3 жыл бұрын
@@alme4898 didn't your mother ever ask you if you'd jump off a bridge just because all your friends were doing it? The fact the regulations at the time were a mistake themselves doesn't absolve the people who made that same mistake in following them
@alme4898
@alme4898 3 жыл бұрын
@@lithuaniaball dude I was trying to have a nice discussion with someone random on the internet, but if you're gonna be so rude then think whatever you want, let's agree to disagree and be done with this, have a nice life
@raymondmcdowell6039
@raymondmcdowell6039 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother worked at the Cleveland Clinic as a young woman when this happened. She told me about this story when I was a young boy. She for some reason which I can no longer remember did not go into work that day. She said that her friends were all killed. One of them was found with a cigarette still in her hands as the gas killed her so quickly. She was never the same from what I can gather after that. She returned home to live with her parents and eventually married my grandfather when she was 34 years old. I have since read about this but until now not seen a video about it. This was very interesting especially since my grandmother dodged death by not going to work that day.
@MaternalUnit
@MaternalUnit Жыл бұрын
What a horrible experience for your grandmother!
@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory
@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory 2 ай бұрын
I think my great aunt must have started there as a social worker around that time. Wow. She & I were only briefly on the planet together, and she shared little personal detail of her life with family, so I do wonder how this affected her.
@audreym823
@audreym823 3 жыл бұрын
The testimony of the woman preparing to jump to safety then immediately collapsing back inside the building made me genuinely feel sick. So horrifying and frustrating
@BuddyLee23
@BuddyLee23 11 ай бұрын
You may want to stick to the ‘fascinating’ and skip on the ‘horror’ when it comes to further video selection. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@uygmoeb
@uygmoeb 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this case before and it really shocked me. The part about the woman almost being saved but collapsing inside the building broke my heart. They were so close
@daffers2345
@daffers2345 3 жыл бұрын
This one made me cry. It's just so sad.
@elijah6496
@elijah6496 3 жыл бұрын
wei wuxian!
@xanderunderwoods3363
@xanderunderwoods3363 3 жыл бұрын
Wei Wuxian :)
@my-lady-greensleeves5831
@my-lady-greensleeves5831 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. The whole story is tragic, but that part really got to me.
@deViant14
@deViant14 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, if it was that close she probably wouldn't have survived more than a few weeks of assisted breathing anyway.
@FikanaSiRet
@FikanaSiRet 3 жыл бұрын
The way you relate these stories is so compassionate, despite how matter-of-fact you are about it. I can't get over how well you portray these disasters, aiming always to educate and inform.
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love him to read some asstr to me, yano late night?
@yjwrangler7819
@yjwrangler7819 3 жыл бұрын
Well put. I'm happy I found this channel.
@malcolmcook6268
@malcolmcook6268 3 жыл бұрын
It's also important to mention that his diction and pronunciation are both absolutely spot on.Therefore, it's impossible to misunderstand anything he says. I'm sure non- native English language speakers are more than grateful for this consideration.
@drumdad54sdl47
@drumdad54sdl47 3 жыл бұрын
Top notch. Among the best this genre has to offer.
@CROWFACED
@CROWFACED 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It’s an intricate balance between facts and respect that he pulls off eloquently. How, for instance, he names the dead if there is a list, doesn’t seem to put a scale of horror that’s based on how many died, and also takes the time to mention brave individuals. Just hearing him speak about the officer in this video got me misty-eyed
@Jekyll08
@Jekyll08 3 жыл бұрын
At least Officer Staab gave those people he pulled out a chance of survival even if it was minimal. It’s also always good to see the institution in these incidents to not only survive their respective disaster but to renovate and continue to be successful. As usual though to eventually know and have the correct safety standard there had to be tragedy first.
@mikaelafox6106
@mikaelafox6106 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I wouldn’t have thought anyone could survive that.
@orangehoof
@orangehoof 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a clinic today would be so buried with criminal charges and wrongful death suits that the clinic would have to go bankrupt. Fortunately, an accident could still be an accident then. However, I would hope someone would have built a monument to the brave man who went back in again and again to save others and I I would hope that some restitution was made to the many victims.
@sybrenkruijf8570
@sybrenkruijf8570 3 жыл бұрын
No one would staab him
@yoshicomic112
@yoshicomic112 3 жыл бұрын
@@orangehoof Everything was so new, so unknown back then. It was truly an accident. They did everything by the books and it still happened. If this were a known danger they let befall their building, the punishment would be much more severe, as it should.
@peterjohnson617
@peterjohnson617 3 жыл бұрын
true hero.
@ErynRenee
@ErynRenee 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard about this, which is weird as an Ohioan. I'm a first aid instructor, and there's a good reason why we train people not to enter a scene where multiple people appear to be unconscious without an obvious cause.
@scharf74
@scharf74 3 жыл бұрын
But “heroes” are going to go anyway.
@TrappedinSLC
@TrappedinSLC 3 жыл бұрын
@@scharf74 And make more victims. Rule one is “don’t create more people who need to be rescued.”
@scharf74
@scharf74 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrappedinSLC EXACTLY.
@karlsantos
@karlsantos 3 жыл бұрын
And it is very difficult to identify the cause as it could be anything. From the top of my head I would tend to think it is something electrical, which means I would be so done if it turns out to be gas or anything else.
@higueraft571
@higueraft571 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrappedinSLC Like that Coast Guard(?) Ship that had like 3-5 people or so drop dead due to entering a bolted shut oxygen deprived room, while trying to tie down an anchor chain then rescue the others who'd passed out and died.
@reloadedditto
@reloadedditto Жыл бұрын
MAJOR CORRECTION - The police officer Ernest Stab DID NOT die. He continued to work for the police department for another 25 years. He lived a full and happy life.
@beaka63
@beaka63 Жыл бұрын
I looked this up and there is nothing to support your claim. You may wish to provide something to back this up.
@EXO-L-ls8qj
@EXO-L-ls8qj Жыл бұрын
@@beaka63 I looked it up as well, and every article I read said he survived. He suffered from recurring medical problems but remained a police officer for another 25 years, as a detective. So, yeah. Check again.
@jrambo7495
@jrambo7495 Жыл бұрын
Policeman Ernest Staab's Heroic Effort ID: 5584 | This file appears in: The Cleveland Clinic X-Ray Fire of 1929 Perhaps the largest heroic effort was made by Policeman Ernest Staab, who was recorded as saving 21 lives during the tragedy that killed 123 people at the Cleveland Clinic. After seemingly recovering and returning to duty, he collapsed while working on his lawn. Near death, he was rushed to a hospital and placed under an oxygen tent as shown above. Although Staab endured recurring medical problems for the rest of his life as a result of the Clinic disaster, he remained in the Cleveland Police Department for another quarter-century, where he served as a detective. | Source: Cleveland Memory Project, Cleveland State University Library Special Collections
@MaternalUnit
@MaternalUnit Жыл бұрын
Wow. Sounds like he had continuing medical problems, but I'm glad to know he survived.
@annaselbdritt7916
@annaselbdritt7916 Жыл бұрын
@@beaka63 google the incident, him surviving is specifically clarified in the opening section on the wiki page
@arnepianocanada
@arnepianocanada 3 жыл бұрын
A ghastly story, stunningly presented. No "bells and whistles" of turgid music or special effects. Just the facts, given with your inimitable voice and clear speech.
@andorfedra
@andorfedra 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the music Facinating Horror DOES use. It has become Iconic to me and synonymous with the name and content. Today's video was no exception to the excellent production value.
@gordonaliasme1104
@gordonaliasme1104 3 жыл бұрын
👻🧟‍♂️💀I was hoping for a little cheesy horror, but sometimes, less is more
@ronalddregan9431
@ronalddregan9431 3 жыл бұрын
Turgid and inimitable? I’ll be using that as a pick up line. Thanks!!
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 3 жыл бұрын
@@andorfedra I also liked the music he used earlier. The List murders, the music he used there is very eerie ..
@MrFuzzwuzzle
@MrFuzzwuzzle 3 жыл бұрын
You've described why I absolutely love this channel
@skyes7369
@skyes7369 3 жыл бұрын
One of the few stories on this channel where no one was really to blame. No one knew this could happen & they were doing the right thing by the accepted standards if the time. It’s always more horrific when you find out that some POS knew there was a significant risk & knew they were breaking laws but does it anyway which leads to people dying.
@chilliinsanity6898
@chilliinsanity6898 3 жыл бұрын
The flammability of x-ray film was well known at the time, it is why they kept them separate from the main areas. Everyone responsible for the film would have known this. Still there isn't any specific person to blame, it was just how they did it at the time.
@effluviah7544
@effluviah7544 3 жыл бұрын
@@chilliinsanity6898 Exactly; Very similar to the nitrate film used in movies at the time. Lots of storage fires, theatre fires, etc. were the result of nitrate film-- But while it was a very well known risk, there was simply no other way to handle it that they knew of at the time, and no viable alternative until acrylic and other types of film were developed later on. Even stored correctly, nitrate can go up immediately and with little warning; It can self-ignite. EDIT: To clarify, both x-ray and movie film were nitrate, but sometimes film reels were treated with tinting in early attempts to colourise movies. As a result, some of these chemicals became even more volatile combined with nitrate as it degraded, causing massive and even more violent fires.
@jasonhaynes2952
@jasonhaynes2952 3 жыл бұрын
This tragedy lead to changes in the way hazardous materials were stored, all across the country. No one realized the dangers and the need for strict storage protocols...until now! I think it's safe to say that the ignorance of the day was a disaster waiting to happen. If it wasn't the Cleveland Clinic, it was bound to happen somewhere, eventually. You can't really blame them; they just didn't know!
@squashua16
@squashua16 3 жыл бұрын
All safety regulation is written in blood.
@EnigmaticLucas
@EnigmaticLucas 3 жыл бұрын
@@effluviah7544 Film vault fires were so common that around 75% of silent movies have no surviving copies (and that’s a pretty conservative estimate)
@Bloomkyaaa
@Bloomkyaaa 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a disaster where no one is to blame and everything was truly just an unfortunate accident. Shoutout to Officer Staab, he's one of the few real life Superman.
@Bloomkyaaa
@Bloomkyaaa 3 жыл бұрын
@T Retano Uh, what if they need them quickly for an emergency?
@hengineer
@hengineer 3 жыл бұрын
@T Retano nobody knew at the time this would happen though.
@2lipToo
@2lipToo 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I think stupidity was to blame. Zero risk assessment...not good.
@chrise842
@chrise842 3 жыл бұрын
No one? Not even some chemist not pointing out the risks? Or a manager who was made aware of his assessment of what could happen?
@somewhatsomething4882
@somewhatsomething4882 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah irradiated sheets of plastic catch fire and it's so toxic people died in seconds..? Yeah, nothing to see here. It's almost a feel good news story. Except for all the dead people.
@channelsixtysix066
@channelsixtysix066 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as "Fire" and "Room To Store X-Ray Film" was mentioned, I knew straight away - Nitro Cellulose film. 02:25 ☹ Unfortunately, that was the only substrate widely available at the time. It is particularly susceptible to heat and doesn't require much to cause ignition. Nitrocellulose is not called guncotton for nothing.
@SvenTviking
@SvenTviking 2 жыл бұрын
Gun Cotton is different. NC film is Collodion which is soluble in a solution of Ether and Alcohol. Gun cotton is insoluble in that mixture but soluble in Acetone.
@kitwillihnganz5972
@kitwillihnganz5972 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that some orders of nuns used to use fabric lined with cellulose to make their elaborately folded veils and wimples, but they had to stop because nuns kept catching fire?
@craigdixon4113
@craigdixon4113 Жыл бұрын
Considering that Hollywood still used Nitrate Film at the time still.
@redhed515
@redhed515 3 жыл бұрын
My grandma normally walked past that building on her way home from school. That day a policeman wouldn’t allow her to take that route home.
@ronalddregan9431
@ronalddregan9431 3 жыл бұрын
Your grandma sounds like an old lady.
@sarah3796
@sarah3796 3 жыл бұрын
😯😯
@thelnepoet1
@thelnepoet1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronalddregan9431 grandmas usually are! 😮😉
@borismcfinnigan3430
@borismcfinnigan3430 3 жыл бұрын
liar
@redhed515
@redhed515 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronalddregan9431 She’s been gone for fifteen years. She was born in 1916. I’m old now!😂
@abiv23
@abiv23 3 жыл бұрын
'The Cleveland Clinic would survive" understatement of the century...best cardiac care in the world
@ronalddregan9431
@ronalddregan9431 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think this tragedy inspired people to redouble their efforts? It’s definitely a triumph of spirit.
@oldlace4u467
@oldlace4u467 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. The best cardiac team in the world is at Foothills Medical Centre in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
@ryangrissom7702
@ryangrissom7702 3 жыл бұрын
Great transplant center as well.
@UserName0043
@UserName0043 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldlace4u467 lol
@v-town1980
@v-town1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldlace4u467 nope.
@yahstino
@yahstino 3 жыл бұрын
Man, that cop was an absolute HERO
@olwens1368
@olwens1368 3 жыл бұрын
Yes- incredible courage to keep going back. He deserves to be remembered.
@stephanie4698
@stephanie4698 3 жыл бұрын
What he did takes an incredible amount of bravery and self sacrifice I don't think I could ever manage. He must have been a great person.
@ronalddregan9431
@ronalddregan9431 3 жыл бұрын
21 people were given a chance. At what point did he *know* he would die and powered through? I wish we could know what he was thinking…
@Vespyr_
@Vespyr_ 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard of firemen and soldiers doing this, but never have heard of a cop going to such lengths. I mean I saw a line of cops push over a man and break his skull and not even check on him just a few months ago... this man, god why did he have to die? Even one more cop like this, would have this world be just that much better for it. A true hero.
@rebekahwolkiewicz449
@rebekahwolkiewicz449 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronalddregan9431 Perhaps that’s one of life/humanity’s true mysteries… perhaps the answer is waiting for us in the afterlife.
@junusavior65
@junusavior65 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things I love about this channel is he doesn't bury the lede. He says exactly what happened at the beginning. Then backs up and works up to it in more detail. *Thank you all for the correction.
@EsmereldaPea
@EsmereldaPea 2 жыл бұрын
*lede It's a common mistake.
@AmaraFerris
@AmaraFerris 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It’s “bury the lede.”
@ricklemke9333
@ricklemke9333 Жыл бұрын
Lede
@muangfaa3511
@muangfaa3511 Жыл бұрын
@@EsmereldaPea Thank you. I learned a new word today.
@diitasukiii
@diitasukiii Жыл бұрын
Both 'lede' and 'lead' are apparently acceptable spellings, though 'lede' is the original journalistic spelling.
@dansweda712
@dansweda712 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever feeling down about our city, the one constant bright spot is the Cleveland clinic, people come from all over the world for there cardio care, and it's nice having such a respected facility so close
@Robin_Coffins
@Robin_Coffins 2 жыл бұрын
Is it free? I hear horror stories of people going to hospital in America and getting a crazy bill worth thousands. I am grateful my back surgery will be free in my country, can't imagine becoming so in debt for healthcare :(
@debbylou5729
@debbylou5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robin_Coffins your stories are scare tactics. Your government loves controlling you through rationing your care. I lived in Canada for 4 years. My beautiful 15 year old daughter has permanent damage to her knee. They don’t have enough diagnostic machines to see what needs to be done. We paid 57% of our income in taxes. We didn’t realized we should’ve done a poor job at work so we didn’t make more money. My family and I, 6 of us, has NEVER spent that much on healthcare. I had hypothyroidism that went undiagnosed for 3 years. The doc didn’t want to order a test for $12.50. You do know they get bonuses for keeping costs down, right? Plus don’t get sick after 60. They call them ‘cost/benefit meetings’, instead of the death panels they are. They figure out the cost of a procedure vs what will be earned from them in taxes. I had medical professionals as friend. Brand new, state of the art hospital and my friend, an O.B. nurse, said they didn’t plan financially so didn’t open 95% of the OB section. Women were having babies in the halls. Very new, sparkly clean halls
@tisjustangie
@tisjustangie 2 жыл бұрын
@@debbylou5729 i knew that the "free" healthcare policies were impractical, but never knew they were this disgusting in practice. I'm sorry that you went through this.
@kristy1653
@kristy1653 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robin_Coffins It is VERY TRUE that you can go for medical care in the US and receive a bill for thousands. Happens everyday.
@fredspofford
@fredspofford 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robin_Coffins Nothing is free. The money is coming from somewhere. Your back surgery is happening at the expense of something or someone somewhere and you're likely paying your share in an area of your surplus so that it still feels free.
@GenXfrom75
@GenXfrom75 3 жыл бұрын
It is fascinating. Also part of the "learning curve" for innovation at that time in history. I am very glad the Cleveland Clinic lived on. It helped save my grandmother years later, and we got to have her in the world for 107 years before she passed away in 2018.
@0.001mm_tolerancy
@0.001mm_tolerancy 3 жыл бұрын
If you had her in your life for 107 years then how old are you exactly?
@Hmmm8-L
@Hmmm8-L 3 жыл бұрын
@@0.001mm_tolerancy well, 107 in 2018 ... so 110 now ... but I'm curious how old the grandma was ... probably in her 140s if not older ... incredible! But, seriously, sorry for you loss. And thanks for sharing.
@adiradira9143
@adiradira9143 3 жыл бұрын
When my youngest was a toddler, he was diagnosed with leukemia at the Cleveland Clinic, and that's where he was treated for 3 years. (the pediatric oncology department was in the original building, I think.) He's now studying to be a pharmacist. So happy to hear they helped your grandmother, too.
@DaedalusYoung
@DaedalusYoung 3 жыл бұрын
@T Retano You didn't read properly. They said "we" had her in the world for 107 years. So that's either "we" as humanity, or "we" as in op's family. Either way, a group of people had op's grandmother in the world for 107 years.
@Hmmm8-L
@Hmmm8-L 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaedalusYoung well, we did read properly, but the original comment has since been edited... 😫 ...
@theRealBrandonRoberts1990
@theRealBrandonRoberts1990 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard this disaster before, thanks Fascinating Horror
@josianehemia2
@josianehemia2 3 жыл бұрын
Me too bro, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a cover-up operation of the alphabet soups. One (or more) of the doctors had probably discovered a cure for a disease that was going to cost the meds industry a lot of big bucks.
@xandercrews7314
@xandercrews7314 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I've been to the Cleveland clinic when I was and their care there is great, or at least it was then. Would've never guessed.
@stabbityjoe7588
@stabbityjoe7588 3 жыл бұрын
@@josianehemia2 Alphabet soups?
@tammyschenk7877
@tammyschenk7877 3 жыл бұрын
@@stabbityjoe7588 FBI, CIA, NSA....Alphabet soups
@angelahudson1568
@angelahudson1568 3 жыл бұрын
Last 2/Mths, I've been having an ALLERGIC REACTION to something in my swMobile Home. It reminded me of the Dude w/burlap bag on face in A Batman Movie that exhaled a Chemical n2 faces of anyone near conversating with. My Bday, 8/01; my window ac unit got me! Instant DRY THROAT-SLAMMED-STR8 CHOKE'N GAG!! Day before, Saturday; Lil Bro's GF came by to do Laundry & once the DRYER was Good-N- HOT; dang! I'ma do another reply & send this on
@HaydenLoreArt
@HaydenLoreArt 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most terrifying ones I've learned about yet. The thought of dying so fast you barely know what's happening, on top of being at a doctor office just hits many fears on the head for me.
@lesliewolfe7643
@lesliewolfe7643 3 жыл бұрын
@Tooth Fairy that's what I was thinking. Of course I don't want to die, but if I had to, falling unconscious in seconds is the way to go.
@anonnnymousthegreat
@anonnnymousthegreat 3 жыл бұрын
Try being an actual xray and ultrasound tech and hearing about this story. We learned about how to develop film when i was in school and the chemicals we had to use to develop the films. This makes me terrified. But now everything pretty much digital and we put everything on discs. But where i work we do still give patients actual film copies of their xrays. So everytime now i walk past a stack of films it will have me precautious af.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts 3 жыл бұрын
flamethrowers kill not by burning you but sending out a wave of carbon monoxide that pushes out all the oxygen around you. when first deployed in ww1 the Brits and French were swearing the Germans were using a new poison gas weapon and the flame was just a side effect of the gas deployment system. Soldiers dropped dead in their tracks with the flames being several feet away.
@borderlineiq
@borderlineiq 2 жыл бұрын
Industrial accidents carry this higher potential for instant death by gas because of the volume of reagents that are present, and needed, thereby creating more source material for escape and death. We typically think of refineries and factories, but be very sure a hospital or clinic is indeed an industrial site. Chemicals and gases present are wholly alien to most homes and non-industrial businesses. The presence of these large quantities of film was essentially a time bomb.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts 2 жыл бұрын
@Jens Nobel read medical studies done of flamethrower casualties. the vast majority were never touched by the flames and those that had damage from heat or flames it was determined they were dead from carbon monoxide poisoning long before they would died from heat or flames. look up the forgotten weapons channel vids on flamethrowers with the foremost expert on flamethrowers. this guy was consulted by the US military on potential usage in Iraq and Afghanistan
@megiab
@megiab 3 жыл бұрын
This story struck so many personal chords with me. I grew up near Cleveland and am very familiar with the Cleveland Clinic. I am also a photo archivist and have learned the dangers if this type of film. Thank you, once again, for a well researched and tactfully presented bit of history. ❤️
@Greg_ThymeTraveler
@Greg_ThymeTraveler 3 жыл бұрын
I've been to the Cleveland Clinic more times than I can remember but never knew about this event. Learning about the history of places I've seen, been to, or lived near always fascinates me.
@astralshore
@astralshore 3 жыл бұрын
Officer Ernest Staab is my new hero. I hope his descendants know about his heroism and are proud of the guy.
@frickinrick89
@frickinrick89 2 жыл бұрын
He lived until 1962!
@RatPfink66
@RatPfink66 2 жыл бұрын
@@frickinrick89 No, he died several weeks after the incident, after seeming to recover fully.
@vustvaleo8068
@vustvaleo8068 3 жыл бұрын
that police officer is so dedicated to his job that he saved lives at the cost of his own, a true hero indeed.
@gobillz6895
@gobillz6895 3 жыл бұрын
People had honor back then
@daffers2345
@daffers2345 3 жыл бұрын
We need heroes like that today!
@Aint_no_senators_son
@Aint_no_senators_son 3 жыл бұрын
@@daffers2345 Do some research. The media is pushing a hate cops narrative. There are many cops who have saved people.
@tigerlilykitty3281
@tigerlilykitty3281 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aint_no_senators_son How do those boots taste?
@lightkeeper1238
@lightkeeper1238 3 жыл бұрын
@@tigerlilykitty3281 hes right. I know many more good cops than bad ones
@matthewromero1422
@matthewromero1422 3 жыл бұрын
It's kinda sad that the people who ran in with full intentions on helping other people died to...good video tho man
@matthewromero1422
@matthewromero1422 3 жыл бұрын
For reals I didn't even think about that
@stanislavkostarnov2157
@stanislavkostarnov2157 3 жыл бұрын
and yet... it happens so often, especially with untrained or partially trained people who act heroically, but without the necessary thought or equipment... most mass confined space casualty events involve a worker succumb to fumes surrounded by the bodies of his friends/colleagues who died trying to rescue him... in fact, the sad statistic is that the majority of people succumb to gas or fumes in a non domestic setting were trying to rescue someone else.
@matthewromero1422
@matthewromero1422 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's true but regardless when it's a friend are a good colleague human instinct just kinda kicks in for some people and they have to at least try to help...I get what you mean tho man for sure
@prophetsix0151
@prophetsix0151 3 жыл бұрын
These stories creep me the hell out, but I can’t stop watching them. Brilliant editing and execution!
@mskinetik
@mskinetik 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you tell the stories of historic events from long ago that many people have no idea ever happened, because they happened so long ago. Thanks for focusing on these older stories, which is why they are so extra fascinating...becuase I've never heard of them before. It's great to tell these stories which educates new generations and explains why a lot of modern safety protocols came to exist. Always fascinating! Thank you
@RatPfink66
@RatPfink66 2 жыл бұрын
look at all the commenters who have never heard of this incident. it's really not part of our culture to trade stories we heard about secondhand. and that includes almost all history. the only difference might be if a family member was there, and told us.
@sigmachud9092
@sigmachud9092 3 жыл бұрын
Ernest Staab needs a statue in his honor. RIP all those lost. This one really got to me, just horrifying
@kamash581
@kamash581 3 жыл бұрын
sadly we all know people wouldnt agree on a statue of a cop no matter his pass
@tigerlilykitty3281
@tigerlilykitty3281 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamash581 Lol, get your head out of your ass And pay more attention. That’s not true at all.
@libertyprime619
@libertyprime619 3 жыл бұрын
@@tigerlilykitty3281 I mean the dude was just doing his job
@tigerlilykitty3281
@tigerlilykitty3281 3 жыл бұрын
@@libertyprime619 And?
@libertyprime619
@libertyprime619 3 жыл бұрын
@@tigerlilykitty3281 I mean he was doing what he was employed to do, and even then, I doubt none of the people he saved never died years later from the gas. I mean give him a memorial in the original building but full out statue is a bit overboard. We shouldn't glorify people for doing a basic human function
@adrianavega3202
@adrianavega3202 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Nitrate Film can just combust by itself, even in the proper conditions, I'm a photographer and I've worked as an archivist for very old cinema films and it is a very volatile material. As always I love your narration and the effort you make to keep this neutral and respectful.
@GFSTaylor
@GFSTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I used to work at a student-run cinema and though we never handled it, we all knew how dangerous nitrate film is. The scene in The Artist where he spills nitrate film about the room and it starts to catch fire made me twitch, just waiting for it to flare up.
@xzigalianisiochfhradha3204
@xzigalianisiochfhradha3204 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear more about nitrate film from somebody who has actually worked with it!
@Pulsatyr
@Pulsatyr 3 жыл бұрын
Nitrate film is essentially the base of smokeless gunpowder flattened through rollers. It's also known as gun cotton. The dark, poisonous smoke in this disaster was more from the emulsion that held the image than the film. While nitrocellulose fumes are noxious, they are white or colorless, which is why "smokeless powder" got its name.
@DaedalusYoung
@DaedalusYoung 3 жыл бұрын
@@xzigalianisiochfhradha3204 There's channels on KZbin that restore and digitise old film, and they do use nitrate film. E.M. Mihal is one such channel, if you watch the video Tib5-msDs-0 at the timestamp 8:40, for example, he gives a demonstration of how a short piece of nitrate film burns.
@gordontheengineswifedr.nirmal
@gordontheengineswifedr.nirmal 3 жыл бұрын
Yes u r absolutely right. When I was a film student, we learned about this.
@mrdth1012
@mrdth1012 3 жыл бұрын
That poor woman on the 3rd story. I can imagine the whisps of smoke like ghostly arms pulling her back in the building.
@updatedotexe
@updatedotexe 3 жыл бұрын
Don't overdramatize it...
@higueraft571
@higueraft571 3 жыл бұрын
@@updatedotexe It is pretty fucking dramatic though, even in reality. Woman moments away from safety passes out and falls straight back into death.
@mlnem2k
@mlnem2k 3 жыл бұрын
@@updatedotexe You gotta admit, if overdramatization must occur, he nailed it! Lol
@albertoftasmania
@albertoftasmania 2 жыл бұрын
@@higueraft571 It is dramatic, but come on, MRDTH's comment was pretty twee.
@chrisakaschulbus4903
@chrisakaschulbus4903 2 жыл бұрын
​@@higueraft571 Depending on how much she inhaled and so on it might've been better than to suffer the consequences... i don't wanna be that guy that wishes for a successful rescue of her just for her to suffer for months and then die.
@wisteria1352
@wisteria1352 3 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of this horrific disaster until now. To know that they were within the boundaries of the guidelines, is important too. It’s a tragedy that really breaks my heart. Over the years I have appreciated all research and efforts of this hospital, including research that has helped me to understand my own personal health.
@vainblack9643
@vainblack9643 2 жыл бұрын
it's the dark truth behind every fire safety code... they are all written in blood.
@rileyhabyl3343
@rileyhabyl3343 2 жыл бұрын
As a former student employee at CSU’s Michael Schwartz Library Special Collections Dept (whose images you’ve used in this video) it’s great to see you discussing this local tragedy in such an interesting and informative (yet respectful) way - love your videos!
@IceFireofVoid
@IceFireofVoid 3 жыл бұрын
It's terrifying how, even when meeting the guidelines, there are still over 100 people that died. You never know what can go wrong.
@colincampbell767
@colincampbell767 3 жыл бұрын
X-ray film was a new technology at the time. Nobody was aware of the risks. Just like the advent of vinyl wastebaskets. A simple item that everybody assumed was harmless. It is harmless - unless it catches on fire. One of vinyl's combustion products is cyanide gas. Back in the days when most people smoked - these things would frequently catch on fire as the result of a carelessly dropped cigarette butt. An office worker would get a decanter full of coffee and dump it on the fire to put it out - and collapse a few seconds later. This is why the recommendation is to always use a fire extinguisher and to stand well back from the fire when using it.
@chrisakaschulbus4903
@chrisakaschulbus4903 2 жыл бұрын
@@colincampbell767 My recommendation would be runningshoes for me and marbles for the others... jokes aside. With this qxir, dark history, fascinating horror-bird-watching and all that i'm out of anywhere as soon as even the slightest thing seems off...
@vibingwithvinyl
@vibingwithvinyl 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see the original building is still standing.
@BatMan-sg9kh
@BatMan-sg9kh 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised there was no mention of a memorial since most stories end in one
@stellar783
@stellar783 3 жыл бұрын
@Bat Man It may be because hospitals deaths do occur on average so maybe they didn’t see the point in making a memorial for these deaths specifically. And what about the people whose loved ones passed away in the same hospital but for different reasons, they still lost somebody dear to them but don’t get a memorial? Idk for sure, this is just my reasoning, perhaps there even is one on the site.
@mimib8032
@mimib8032 3 жыл бұрын
@@BatMan-sg9kh Someone elsewhere in the comments said they worked there and there is a memorial on the first floor.
@bradbroemmer9085
@bradbroemmer9085 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, lol.
@banishingpepper5053
@banishingpepper5053 3 жыл бұрын
If you lived in NEOH, you wouldn't be surprised. Cleveland is pretty aged
@scottsmith9192
@scottsmith9192 3 жыл бұрын
I am young, well young enough to not have heart issues. My Mitrol valve got stuck, I had to have open heart surgery in November (the one that just passed “20) and the Cleveland Clinic is a huge part to thank for me being here. I was 39 when I had the surgery. Great story man!!!
@janavenue650
@janavenue650 3 жыл бұрын
glad you've recovered, @Scott Smith
@megatuanis
@megatuanis 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you got that mitral valve fixed.
@Kaemea
@Kaemea 3 жыл бұрын
Huzzah for your survival! I pray you are fully recovered and that all will be completely fine going on!
@A_Ducky
@A_Ducky 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome, but I'm sorry you had to deal with it. My Mom had a hip replacement at Cleveland Clinic (we lived there) and the way they treated her post op was shocking. She had a bedsore over her entire back, and when it broke (a huge blister).. they let her lay in her own urine til I got there. Mom couldn't even ask help, she didn't speak English. She cried out loud many times, from pain & discomfort.. no one came. A teenage girl in the bed next to Mom (2 bed room) had just had a brain surgery and was pulling the bell for the nurses for a glass of water.. but none came. I found this situation & went to investigate. A bunch of nurses assigned to that section (of mostly MediCaid patients) were reading magazines & chatting. I believe they could have heard every call. Our conversation wasn't pleasant. In hindsight, wish I had taken photo evidence of all this, but it was just prior to the advent of everyone having smartphones.
@scottsmith9192
@scottsmith9192 3 жыл бұрын
@@janavenue650 thank you so much!
@GoogleTrendingTopics
@GoogleTrendingTopics 3 жыл бұрын
The Cleveland Clinic also has some of the best MS researchers and treatments in the country. They have given my mom a lot of hope with her battle. ❤️ I am sorry about this horrible accident, but thankful that the clinic is still here today. Also, RIP Officer Ernest.
@Nova-bv5qb
@Nova-bv5qb 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there! What is MS? Hope your mom's doing well with it, whatever it is lol
@GoogleTrendingTopics
@GoogleTrendingTopics 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nova-bv5qb Multiple Sclerosis. It's a debilitating neurological disease that causes the nerves in your brain to die over time. This can cause immense pain, blindness, deafness, immobility, and even death. Unfortunately, there is not a lot known about MS, and neurologists would rather pump patients full of pills that don't work or have the possibility of giving you cancer than look at other forms of treatment. My mom works closely with integrative doctors, both locally and from the Cleveland Clinic, and has been able to stop the progression of her disease using a diet developed by Dr. Swank, who spent 70 years of his life studying MS. Thankfully, she has not had any new symptoms in a long time and her last MRI showed that she does not have any new lesions on her brain! Hallelujah!
@mikecrews9112
@mikecrews9112 2 жыл бұрын
The Cleveland Clinic sewed up my head wound after I was attacked on the school bus in 2004, I still have the scar on my forehead to this day...
@Sorchia56
@Sorchia56 3 жыл бұрын
I’d never heard of this. You did a brilliant presentation with no over dramatisation. Just facts and compassion for such a horrific event. Who could have known this would happen. This incident went on to save so many lives by storing the films in secure containers. Thank you.
@mysmirandam.6618
@mysmirandam.6618 3 жыл бұрын
The timing, pacing, diction, enunciation, anticipation built, and empathy in these stories is nothing short of extraordinary ♥
@declamatory
@declamatory 3 жыл бұрын
*enunciation
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 3 жыл бұрын
At points he becomes dangerously close to being cheesily overdramatic. But it usually lasts only for a second.
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I love his lovely, calm and neutral presentation.
@limegreenmamba5218
@limegreenmamba5218 3 жыл бұрын
@@declamatory Annunciation would indeed be quite extraordinary.
@mysmirandam.6618
@mysmirandam.6618 3 жыл бұрын
@@declamatory thanks
@glorygloryholeallelujah
@glorygloryholeallelujah 3 жыл бұрын
Earnest Staab ..... this man seriously deserves a statue/a bench/clinic/public garden/etc - just SOMETHING to honor his unbelievably selfless sacrifice and unwavering bravery!❤️🥺
@BuzzinVideography
@BuzzinVideography 3 жыл бұрын
Unintelligent idiots would likely tear it down
@ThiefOfNavarre
@ThiefOfNavarre 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzinVideography sad but true
@tigerlilykitty3281
@tigerlilykitty3281 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzinVideography Why would that be true? Don’t be ridiculous.
@BuzzinVideography
@BuzzinVideography 3 жыл бұрын
@@tigerlilykitty3281 oh look. I found one here. Y'all the same people that won't let Aunt Jemima stay on her own syrup.
@tigerlilykitty3281
@tigerlilykitty3281 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzinVideography Lmfao, I point out that there’s no reason he wouldn’t be allowed a bench and you bring up syrup icons. Grow up.
@cubbi2789
@cubbi2789 3 жыл бұрын
I've always called the Cleveland clinic as my second home because of how many times I need to go but never heard of this disaster before. Thank you for sharing this, will have to share with friends and family
@awkwardautistic
@awkwardautistic 3 жыл бұрын
We literally did live there for months while my daughter was in the NICU...love the CC
@brixitz9722
@brixitz9722 3 жыл бұрын
currently employed at a cleveland clinic! great place
@spiritmatter1553
@spiritmatter1553 3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully the Clinic didn’t fold and in continuing earned its stellar reputation. It’s wonderful to hear people’s individual stories of how it helped them.
@Donde_Lieta
@Donde_Lieta 3 жыл бұрын
I had a bone marrow transplant and lived in the main building for 2 months! It’s a wonderful hospital, but I’m also not a huge fan of all the white, it makes everything feel so clinical and cold. The oncology unit was one of the older wings in the hospital, but the cardiac unit looks absolutely amazing!
@awkwardautistic
@awkwardautistic 3 жыл бұрын
@@Donde_Lieta pediatric neurology is in that old building... it's pretty cool to hear this story.
@brentjohnson4212
@brentjohnson4212 3 жыл бұрын
Despite the extreme tragedy of the event, this video really emphasizes the positive nature of everyone involved. I think you did a great service to the outcome!
@Brendan-Black
@Brendan-Black 3 жыл бұрын
With my morbid imagination, when I read "X-Ray Incident" my mind immediately went to some gruesome occurence to someone(s) body while being x-rayed. Another excellent video.
@cygnia
@cygnia 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this in John Stark Bellamy II's "They Died Crawling". He wrote a series of books on Cleveland crimes and disasters (though, not Balloonfest '86).
@adiradira9143
@adiradira9143 3 жыл бұрын
Seconding the recommendation, I've read all his books about Cleveland disasters. They're excellent.
@kimberlyoldschool
@kimberlyoldschool 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Cleveland - any big US city has similar disasters, but Cleveland seems to get the most absurd (ie, Balloonfest).
@danditzel7271
@danditzel7271 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlyoldschool only cleveland could destroy elliot ness lol
@ContessaChalice
@ContessaChalice 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite series.
@huchlvr
@huchlvr 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlyoldschool Balloon Fest? I still lived there in '86 and don't remember this tragedy. And yes, we did have the weirdest tragedies. From the River burning to the East Ohio Gas explosion to the Torso Serial Killer.
@suckersupreme4380
@suckersupreme4380 3 жыл бұрын
The Cleveland Clinic went on to save my mother’s life, and I will forever be grateful to the organization itself and the people who work tirelessly for the care of others
@briantrudell8248
@briantrudell8248 Жыл бұрын
That's awesome man
@nekkoskrilla6750
@nekkoskrilla6750 Жыл бұрын
You grew up to be a s_cker!! 🍭
@Kiterpuss
@Kiterpuss 3 жыл бұрын
There was one rule that my high school chemistry teacher impressed on all of us to remember after graduating above all others. "If you can see a gas, you need to run away. The only gases you can see are the ones that will kill you where you stand." Edit for the smartasses in the replies: Yes, there are plenty of odorless, tasteless, colorless vapors that can kill you too. But there are also colorless gases that you need to live. There are zero colored gases that won't hurt you in a bad way. Edit 2: The trend of folks assuming I use male pronouns while trying to pick comment fights is... interesting.
@myragroenewegen5426
@myragroenewegen5426 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. That's incredibly simple and useful and should be common knowledge!
@ronalddregan9431
@ronalddregan9431 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad the class clown wasn’t there to rip a fart. Also that teacher is wrong. Well intentioned but the “colored gas is bad” line is not correct.
@hziebicki
@hziebicki 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronalddregan9431 Why is it not correct?
@a_lethe_ion
@a_lethe_ion 3 жыл бұрын
@@hziebicki CO, carbon monoxide, colourless, odourless, 1,28% is deadly enough to kill you after 2,3 breaths. CO2 can kill you to. even non toxic gas can kill you by basically displacing any oxygen and you die because your brain and lungs run out of air to breathe
@hziebicki
@hziebicki 3 жыл бұрын
@@a_lethe_ion The point wasn't that all toxic gases are colored, it was that most colored gases are toxic.
@mothmanonarollercoaster
@mothmanonarollercoaster 3 жыл бұрын
The clinic has a display about the fire set up on the first floor of the original building. It’s pretty interesting!
@ronalddregan9431
@ronalddregan9431 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info- other comments were asking about a memorial.
@sigridmiller2801
@sigridmiller2801 3 жыл бұрын
The thought of that woman on the balcony being so close to safety and ultimately falling back into the deadly building is so sad
@walkingdeadjr
@walkingdeadjr 3 жыл бұрын
Having the light bulb dangle all the way down by the floor was a BRILLIANT idea
@RickLincoln
@RickLincoln 3 жыл бұрын
If you're a geezer like I am, you may remember looking at the box of film that you bought at the drugstore and seeing "Safety Film" on the label. After the film industry changed from nitrate based film to acetate based, the label was used to assure the public who was by then well aware of the fire danger of the former. A theater fire caused by nitrate film is a key part of the plot of the Italian movie "Cinema Paradiso". Film fires were not uncommon.
@Jogwheel
@Jogwheel 3 жыл бұрын
Super interesting story, as always! Thanks for shedding light on these lesser-known tragedies :)
@HardRock2Day
@HardRock2Day 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon! :)
@carvahaunter122
@carvahaunter122 3 жыл бұрын
Omg the microwave guys
@JakePlaysGames8878
@JakePlaysGames8878 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, imagine what would happen if it was the actual microwave guys commenting?
@Jogwheel
@Jogwheel 3 жыл бұрын
@@JakePlaysGames8878 but I am? Haha.
@danucard13
@danucard13 3 жыл бұрын
I've lived in Cleveland my whole life and have heard many a tale of woe. But I have never heard about this. Great Video!
@dinascharnhorst6590
@dinascharnhorst6590 3 жыл бұрын
As a paramedic in Southwest Ohio, I have transported patients up to the Cleveland Clinic numerous times...and have NEVER heard of this disaster until now. Thank you for the fascinating, tragic lesson.
@rachelkxbaer
@rachelkxbaer 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching a lot of your videos recently, and I keep seeing comments praising you for your respect for the victims of all these disasters you cover, and for the way you highlight the ways that laws and safety regulations change for the better in their wake. And I have to say I wholeheartedly agree. You deliver facts in such a compelling manner without sensationalizing the events, and you are very conscious of the human cost. Your videos are excellent. Love your channel.
@wisteela
@wisteela 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely horrific. I knew about the old type of cinema film being a fire hazard, but not thought about x-ray films, and didn't know about the gas hazard. It's great that the building still stands today. Fitting tribute.
@trunkb73625
@trunkb73625 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace officer Staab. Thank you for your service
@ronalddregan9431
@ronalddregan9431 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@critterchristiane
@critterchristiane 3 жыл бұрын
this is something we consider in archives as well. some of the film is extremely flammable and dangerous and we have to be super careful about how we store it, because we want to keep the images but it's not the safest thing to store
@jimmiejordan1
@jimmiejordan1 2 жыл бұрын
Is modern x-ray film as dangerous as it was back then?
@Esmerelda666
@Esmerelda666 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmiejordan1 as far as I am aware, it is all digital now
@artbk
@artbk Жыл бұрын
@@jimmiejordan1 no, the base for most films and transparent medias are either cellulose triacetate, which was adopted in 1951, or plastic, since the 80's.
@jimmiejordan1
@jimmiejordan1 Жыл бұрын
@@artbk one thing I love about the internet. People from all over the world that know more than you about certain subjects can give advice. I am a mechanic by trade. I also work on computers. If someone needs advice about that I can help. But I know very little about x-rays or the film used. LOL
@Kerosene.Dreams
@Kerosene.Dreams 3 жыл бұрын
8 years and 3 months and then BAM, tragedy. That background music never fails to make me feel creeped out, even when I binge watch several in a sitting during daylight.
@EaterPurplePeople
@EaterPurplePeople 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is so underrated. Could be on television and I think it would do very well.
@Jay-Bee_NUFC
@Jay-Bee_NUFC 3 жыл бұрын
I've learned so much from this channel. Hugely underrated channel.
@kgoulding1237
@kgoulding1237 3 жыл бұрын
I have learnt more from this channel than my years in high school science and history classes😂
@alukuhito
@alukuhito 3 жыл бұрын
I always get confused when people say things like this. I must've gone to a really good school, but just didn't realize it at the time.
@D-Vinko
@D-Vinko 3 жыл бұрын
@@alukuhito No, you just paid more attention. Also; many people confuse "learning" for "hearing of", so the statement is so much more common.
@ao1778
@ao1778 3 жыл бұрын
Sad.
@Moonlakes
@Moonlakes 3 жыл бұрын
because they dont unnecessarily teach you interesting disasters, but rather history of humanity. its good to know, you should start listening.
@michaelmann8800
@michaelmann8800 3 жыл бұрын
More than likely, you simply aren't or didn't pay attention in class. I get so tired of these backhanded swipes at the education system. Too many people think teachers are supposed to entertain them. You are supposed to be an active participant in your education...it's not something that is just done to you. Every time people on KZbin make a comment like this, they are revealing that they have a piss poor attitude about learning. If you need stories to understand things, you aren't going to find real life to be very easy.
@stuartmilerosborne
@stuartmilerosborne 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly it sometimes takes a disaster to prevent future casualties. The Cleveland Clinic is s good example .
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 3 жыл бұрын
There's a saying: Regulations are written in blood. This is just another example.
@westnblu
@westnblu 3 жыл бұрын
@@russellhltn1396 Not maritime disasters. A notable example is the sinking of the Titanic. Significant changes where made to regulations and safety procedures to sea ferrying vessels following the Titanic sinking. It was drowning more so than blood on this occasion.
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 3 жыл бұрын
@@westnblu You're nit-picking. Either way, it's death.
@merakiminx
@merakiminx 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in Cleveland for 7 years and had never heard of this story. I passed that building many, many times without ever knowing its history. Thank you for sharing!!
@ryangrissom7702
@ryangrissom7702 3 жыл бұрын
Cleveland Clinic is an amazing hospital. My father had a lung transplant there less than two years ago due to pulmonary fibrosis. I can't say enough good things about it.
@mistytells
@mistytells 3 жыл бұрын
My mom, dad and only brother all died there in the past 5 years.
@dmark1922
@dmark1922 3 жыл бұрын
My mother was thirteen years old and living in Cleveland when this happened, but I never heard about this at all. Her sister, my aunt, was 18 or 19; she eventually became a nurse. I wonder if this event had anything to do with her going into the profession...
@Elleoaqua
@Elleoaqua 3 жыл бұрын
Well back then women didn't have much choice in acceptable professions. Teacher, nurse, secretary.
@dmark1922
@dmark1922 3 жыл бұрын
@@Elleoaqua Good point haha. My mother had studied art in and was a cartoonist of sorts in college. She applied to work at Disney Studios (from Ohio!) and was rejected based on sex. She eventually got a job teaching art at a teachers college in Arkansas. No secretaries in our family though! lol
@scharf74
@scharf74 3 жыл бұрын
Ask her.
@scharf74
@scharf74 3 жыл бұрын
@@dmark1922 how does she know it was based on gender? Did they tell her that?
@dmark1922
@dmark1922 3 жыл бұрын
@@scharf74 my mother passed away 21 years ago, but I heard the story a number of times straight from her mouth, and according to her, those were their words: "we don't hire women as artists" or something to that effect. this would have been in the late 1930s
@mattr0103
@mattr0103 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the days when rich people built libraries and, in this case, donated space to a medical facility in-need as vanity projects.
@lestranged
@lestranged 3 жыл бұрын
Way better than billionaires playing astronaut
@glowgurl777
@glowgurl777 3 жыл бұрын
I've been saying the same! I want a Bezos Seattle Library or Bridge.....something for society
@PeterShawpshawman
@PeterShawpshawman 3 жыл бұрын
They still do. Of course they just dodged 10000x the amount donated in taxes too.
@jaik195701
@jaik195701 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew Carnegie was the philanthropist I believe
@libertyprime619
@libertyprime619 3 жыл бұрын
The government got involved with capitalism, people complain about it but this is true capitalism. Rich people giving to the leader because they have the means, rich people innovating to make life easier, etc...
@Donde_Lieta
@Donde_Lieta 3 жыл бұрын
I stayed in the Hope Lodge when I was getting my bone marrow transplant, it was absolutely amazing for me and my mom 💜
@calendarpage
@calendarpage 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you are doing well now.
@TrappedinSLC
@TrappedinSLC 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my mom had heart surgery done at Cleveland Clinic, the facility is amazing.
@carolneloy2140
@carolneloy2140 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing these stories back to light . I love history and you give us history that is quickly forgotten by most and we would never know if not for you !
@michellemaroda7189
@michellemaroda7189 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up about an hour from here and never knew about this until now. I've known people who have had to go across the state line to get either cardiac or cancer treatments there. I agree with the others, surprising to hear a story where nobody cut corners.
@benisaten
@benisaten 3 жыл бұрын
My god what a horrific incident. I’ve never even heard of this nightmare. I know it’s a massive well renowned hospital but did not know of this incident. Those poor souls.
@elliottprice6084
@elliottprice6084 3 жыл бұрын
Shocking. I'm glad I found this channel. It brings to light tragic events that seem to have been forgotten or lost in time. This disaster is all the more tragic because it occured in a medical facility. A great video
@katiehonigford8016
@katiehonigford8016 3 жыл бұрын
It's surreal hearing about this story as someone from Ohio who sees commercials for the Cleveland Clinic all the time... never knew about this dark, dark day. Excellent video as always.
@newrenewableenergycontrol5724
@newrenewableenergycontrol5724 2 жыл бұрын
I underwent 'experimental surgery' on a heart valve that was not closing properly since birth. I suffered my first stroke at less then two years old. In 1956. But the medical community locally was clueless and sent me home. I suffered my second stroke at 52. I was sent to the Cleveland Clinic for arthroscopic heart surgery through an artery in my upper leg on a Friday while I was fully conscience. Out patient surgery on my heart! With permission from the doctors, I went to Six Flags and rode roller coasters with my children on the next day! Science does not always get things right. But as long as we face our mistakes and do the best we can not to repeat them, life will improve! The Cleveland Clinic is the greatest in the world from my perspective!
@whiteyfisk9769
@whiteyfisk9769 2 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@Aztec339
@Aztec339 2 жыл бұрын
@@whiteyfisk9769 how disrespectful you are. What the hell is wrong with us baby boomers. IT WAS OUR PARENTS WHO HAD THE SEX WHICH RESULTED IN OUR NUMEROUS BIRTHS. Now we are getting hell just because we number a lot. Those were the days before widespread womens birth control or women even working. Good union jobs were plentiful. My parents had just three kids..relatively small for the time. And very small for the Catholic family we were. I never had kids and my siblings only have 3 total. We aren’t busting the population with tons of people. REPEAT: quit blaming us boomers for just being born. I’ll give you the cemetery where my parents are so you can stomp on their graves, okay?
@pundertalefan4391
@pundertalefan4391 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy for you. :-)
@itsmekennyd
@itsmekennyd 2 жыл бұрын
This hospital is wonderful I was there in 2015. They show this on TV and all the upgrades. It's huge place and year after year number 1 in heart health. I loved it there and they saved my life
@cryptaveli
@cryptaveli 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, never heard about this incident before.
@michaelfrench3396
@michaelfrench3396 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how far we've come. Another name for nitro cellulose, you know the stuff that they developed the X-rays on, is gun cotton!! It's literally what is in those bags that they shove into the battleship guns behind the shells to make them go boom! So yeah probably a good idea that we've gotten away from using that as a development medium.
@sirbrigit
@sirbrigit 3 жыл бұрын
Gun cotton was part of the cargo on the SS Mont-Blanc, the ship that exploded in the Halifax Disaster of 1917.
@maxhonneger2761
@maxhonneger2761 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirbrigit Yes, indeed it was. Ten tons of it. Along with 2300 tons of picric acid, 200 tons of TNT and 35 tons of benzole. The Mont Blanc was a floating bomb. All that it took was the collision with an impatient captain and stupid pilot of the Norwegian freighter, Imo, in the Narrows of Halifax harbor to set it aflame, then set it off. There was an excellent book written about the circumstances, the explosion and the aftermath written by Michael J. Bird. It was called The Town That Died.
@davidschaadt3460
@davidschaadt3460 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the term Nitro Cellulose caught my attention .
@PokingAngel
@PokingAngel 3 жыл бұрын
This is a truly horrific story. Just the idea that you can do pretty much everything right (based on the knowledge of the times) and disasters can still happen is really terrifying. I'm glad safety standards were improved because of this
@RobynS9722
@RobynS9722 3 жыл бұрын
I was glad to find the original building still standing and in use today. I love your videos so much, I would love to see more than one a week, but I look forward to each one that comes out. I think what I like most (besides the fascinating horrific content, pun intended) is your lack of need for drama. The content is enough. You go through it in that smooth, calm voice of yours with no dramatic background noise or music besides your intro music. I just really like that.
@1JamesMayToGoPlease
@1JamesMayToGoPlease 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love reading (mostly non-fiction), but I didn't know about this. Thank you for taking the time to share this.
@rogersheddy6414
@rogersheddy6414 3 жыл бұрын
"... an unprotected lightbulb that was situated too close to an unprotected stack of film..." I would say, more likely, someone stashed some unprotected film too close to an unprotected light bulb.. That is why often cages are built around light bulbs in certain places, so that the heat from the bulb does not cause a problem, or so that the bulb does not become broken by something else..
@gerble36
@gerble36 3 жыл бұрын
And the reason why they do that is because situations like this happened in the past due to it... Not from someone's foresight.
@KathrynSrce3719
@KathrynSrce3719 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure this was widely understood at the time since it was not really understood that this film is highly flammable and volatile.
@rogersheddy6414
@rogersheddy6414 3 жыл бұрын
@@KathrynSrce3719 Like with most fatal accidents, it was simply something we could chalk down to carelessness And haste.
@KathrynSrce3719
@KathrynSrce3719 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogersheddy6414 in most cases, yes. That might be the reason. But in this particular case, I think that there was a real possibility of a lack of understanding of these sorts of things. If I recall correctly, the narrator did mention that the investigation concluded that how the film was stored was in line with the safety standards at the time. Of course, these standards have changed since this tragedy because they were found to be inadequate. But yeah I do agree with you that what you've said might be the case in most cases.
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ 3 жыл бұрын
FYI new electrical safety codes do not allow exposed light bulbs in areas used for storage like closets. And the LED bulbs are much safer in that regard anyway.
@peterwhitehead2453
@peterwhitehead2453 3 жыл бұрын
It’s an extraordinary story of tragedy, which as you say has gone on to become such a key saver of lives down the road...interesting how major incidents often lead to breakthroughs - we sort of must have them, in order to progress...
@annpurkis9599
@annpurkis9599 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite channels on here, thank you :)
@steveprice638
@steveprice638 3 жыл бұрын
Just the best and most respectful, detailed and accurate commentaries I've heard on You Tube. Subscribed.
@cierawilcox4651
@cierawilcox4651 3 жыл бұрын
The selflessness of the man who pulled out 21 people and kept going until his death... Truly astounding.
@maryanne7161
@maryanne7161 Жыл бұрын
He didn't die in that incident. He died 25 years later
@fuckfacebook3440
@fuckfacebook3440 11 ай бұрын
A policeman, Ernest Staab, rescued 21 victims from the fire, and left the scene, seemingly in good health. He later collapsed while working on his lawn, was hospitalized, but contrary to many contemporaneous newspaper articles[a] survived and worked for the police department for another 25 years.[7][6]
@kenshin891
@kenshin891 3 жыл бұрын
Another lifelong Clevelander! Excellent job on this one. If you're looking for future videos, I'd suggest the 1944 East Ohio Gas explosion or for a less serious one, the 10 cent beer night riot in 1974.
@naturalnashuan
@naturalnashuan 2 жыл бұрын
You might find the Boston Molasses Flood of 15JAN1919 interesting. There are already many mini documentaries about it.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew about this one, I figured it'd be a THORAC situation but nope, far far far worse and more terrifying....yet they didn't do anything wrong going by the standards of the time and yet it sparked reform
@stephanie4698
@stephanie4698 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the few, if not only stories on this channel, where the safety measures that were in place at the time were followed. Most of them seem to be caused by people being lax following the rules in place.
@daffers2345
@daffers2345 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephanie4698 I noticed that too. I am glad for once to hear a story that was NOT caused by laziness, cheapness, or cutting corners in some way. Yet this video made me cry, because it was so sad.
@rodik5492
@rodik5492 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend you to check the Zaragoza (Spain) radiotherapy accident (1990). I think it fits the kind of tragedy you explore in your videos as it helped to build the actual safety systems for medical machinery. Hope you get this!
@krzysztofj1993
@krzysztofj1993 Жыл бұрын
I do enjoy your stories. Thank you. I do appreciate how you speak. BBC should be after you.
@natkoko_ko
@natkoko_ko 3 жыл бұрын
I live twenty minutes away from the Cleveland Clinic and yet I never knew of this incident! Great video!
@homerogarzajr1787
@homerogarzajr1787 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings FH, I just came here to look at another one of your masterpieces, I loved the collab with Brick Immortar... Keep up the great work
@andyhargreaves2574
@andyhargreaves2574 3 жыл бұрын
More than 30 years as a radiographer and I had never heard of this incident. Fascinating story, such a pity so many died but at least it created new safety standards afterwards
@Theaterbuddy717
@Theaterbuddy717 3 жыл бұрын
There is a memorial on campus, near where this happened (Basement of the "S" building). I have worked there for 24 years. One of the founders of the Cleveland Clinic died later in the evening, Dr. John Phillips.
@huchlvr
@huchlvr 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Crile was the one who died.
@Theaterbuddy717
@Theaterbuddy717 3 жыл бұрын
@@huchlvr He died in 1943.
@huchlvr
@huchlvr 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theaterbuddy717 Yeah, I got him confused with another of the founders. Thanks for the correction.
@amerz2477
@amerz2477 3 жыл бұрын
S building. I used to work in T 28 till we built our new cancer center
@deniserossiter1059
@deniserossiter1059 3 жыл бұрын
As someone born & raised 20 minutes from downtown Cleveland and a frequent patient of the Cleveland Clinic.... HOW have I never heard of this tragedy? Thank you for another informative & tastefully done video. Keep up the great work.
@flashy5150
@flashy5150 3 жыл бұрын
You do a fabulous job at finding and explaining these disasters that happened a long time ago and today. Very well done.
@jenz4524
@jenz4524 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work in the Radiology Department in MN at a clinic and we had xray film from back in the 1920s and 1930s for teaching. These films smelled gross and now knowing what they are made of, holy crap. Also, the way we had to dispose of old films into flammable proof containers and people came to take them away to dispose of them at a plant somewhere.
@RatPfink66
@RatPfink66 2 жыл бұрын
if film smells "vinegary," it's cellulose acetate film, sometimes known as safety film because it wasn't as flammable. it degrades and gives off acetic acid. if it smells of mothballs or rotten egg, it's cellulose nitrate. the fumes can be dangerous to breathe even if its not burning.
@jcjko5504
@jcjko5504 Жыл бұрын
@@RatPfink66 Thanks.
@mattigan16
@mattigan16 3 жыл бұрын
Officer Staab is a hero and honestly what he did brought me to tears. What a brave man. To all lives lost in the tragedy, Rest In Peace.
@GalleryAquaticaTV
@GalleryAquaticaTV 3 жыл бұрын
Another intriguing video. Thanks for bringing us such an interesting historical event.
@drtee51
@drtee51 3 жыл бұрын
My parents were patients at the Cleveland Clinic. It's one of the best facilities in the world. I appreciate the script pointing out, at the end, that it isn't just some killer clinic, but has saved untold thousands of lives in its history. That put the drama of the incident into perspective.
@pblack19141
@pblack19141 3 жыл бұрын
@Fascinating Horror thank you for taking the time to research this story. So many disasters have been swept under the rug, almost callously. I have always thought, instead of pretending that the event never happened not only shows a type of disrespect not only to the victims as well for those left behind. I can only hope that learning from the past will help those in the future. You Are Amazing
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