The Closed-Back Sundara: Any Good?

The original Hifiman Sundara is a pretty darn popular headphone, and a pretty easy rec, since you can pick them up for around $200 on the used market. Now, there is a closed-back version of the Sundara. Is it any good?
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Hifiman Sundara Closed: bit.ly/ayritsu...
Sundara Open: bit.ly/ayritapossundara
T60 Argon: www.modhouseau...
Cayin RU6: bit.ly/ayritru6
Singxer SA1 is a great solid state option: bit.ly/ayritapossingxersa1
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Cheap Gaming Headphone: AD700X: amzn.to/3b4ACUS
Super Cheap Closed-Back Gaming: Recon 500: amzn.to/3numqem
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Headphone #2: ZMF Verite Open: shop.zmfheadph...
Headphone #3: OG NIghthawks: (look used)
Closed Back: t60 Argons: www.modhouseau...
Gaming Headphone: HE560v4: adorama.rfvk.net/6bnGoG
Budget Bluetooth Portable DAC/Amp: XCan: amzn.to/3vJG8WA
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Behringer UM2: amzn.to/3CO65d2
iPhone 14 Pro (overhead):
#hifiman #sundara #closed

[@0Haldor0]

thank you for the comparison with the Argons, that was exactly what I was here for^^ I was planing on modding the T40RP, but then whent on a planar tangent. Given that I am a sucker for base and the Price for the sundara here is 500€ vs. 140€, this is an easy one :) Nice review btw!

[@CharlesSeraphDrums]

Thing is the closed back is not simply a Sundara with cups slapped on. It has trickle down tech from the R10P in both the stealth magnet and the topography of the cup.

[@steven2640]

$149 now

[@eddiecheung7824]

128 now😂

[@InDueTime25]

Also, I liked the Sundara but something was missing for me. I sold it immediately after picking one up off the used market. It sounded great but I held out for the hifiman 6se v2. Happy so far. I wish the earcups were bigger though. Maybe even oval.

[@stevemansgraham]

Keep putting out these great videos

[@soulfulfool]

Since I know you like verite open, I can easily say you must try VC. Headphones must be really open to even start competing with VC, they are Argons on steroids. With proper binaural recording its pure magic. Its true masterpiece of Zach engineering. I have chosen closed verite because I know its not enough and Atrium will be better open option. ZMF 👑

[@asan1050]

MrAyrit Thanks Much !

[@turbomustang84]

The Sundara open just lacked Bass which is why I no longer have mine but I still have my original HE400 and 4XX . I'm curious about the closed back but actually will buy the Monolith 1570 closed because My open 1570 is as close as I can afford that mimicks my favorite Headphones the LCD 4

[@DonutsReview]

Been very curious about these… 😊

[@Mittke88]

They are $149 at Amazon and HiFiMan websites. Gonna order it.

[@conroyscott2206]

I literally just ordered mine a few minutes...for $119

[@randroyle]

​@@conroyscott2206 How were they? Do you think they are good for public transportation, traveling? Could they work for running do you think?

[@InDueTime25]

Great review as usual. How does it compare to the beyerdynamic 177x Go as far as close backs? I absolutely love the 177x go but wondered if there was something else that is better and reasonably priced. I too believe in the used market.

[@MrAyrit]

The Sundara are going to have more clarity, but I think overall, I'd probably still prefer the 177x.

[@TheVeganVicar]

@@MrAyrit, there are no long vowels in "SUNDARA".

[@onofriopiccolino5166]

I heard the Sundara’s make a great gaming headset if you pair it with the SteelSeries Game Dac Gen 2 but I am not sure if they were talking about the open back or the closed back. The closed backs cost $150 and the open back cost $300 now

[@markweiss5913]

I would like to have seen a darker stain on the earcups as well. This looks like what the guy directing planes at the airport wears.

[@seabasster]

Does it sound better than dt770?

[@leonardopapantoniou4227]

Better or worse than BD 770 pro 250 ohm?

[@criticactual]

Hi! Which one is more complet? Hifiman R9 or Hifiman Sundara Closed?

[@MrAyrit]

Sundara

[@criticactual]

@@MrAyrit thanks, which are the diference?

[@ProgInside83]

better bass on sandara open? are you sure? looks at the FR graphics

[@MrAyrit]

You know, doing a bit more testing on this after seeing your comment, and I find them both bass light. They're actually pretty darn close. It's a track to track thing. Sometimes I like the bass better on the open, sometimes on the closed 🤷‍♀

[@Praimfaya98]

I have audio technica msr7b for daily, is it an upgrade from msr7b to sundara closed back?

[@Praimfaya98]

the Sundara closed back now on the market for $150 - $170

[@mohamadsalehi3696]

Can I get much better quality from these headphones with an iPhone than wireless headphones (for example, Momentum 4) without an amp?

[@MrAyrit]

Probably not without an amp. With something like a btr7, then yes, IMO.

[@death32815]

Guys, i jusg raalized id we as a community ageee to majorly shit on good products then they moght lower the prices to save face like they did with these theyre $150 from $400 msrp and have stayed at $150 for awhile.

[@universidadtrabajo1797]

Elegia or Sundara closed? I want a good closed back for ambient music. Thanks

[@MrAyrit]

I’d take the Sundara.

[@feyvre]

closed back sundara vs dt 700 pro x ?

[@gaetandurot6700]

Good evening, one thing bothers me after consulting several reviews, most of the tests were carried out without the pre-required break-in by the manufacturer and with the original cable. My question is, have you had a chance to try the headphones with a balanced 4.4mm jack to dual 3.5mm jack cable and with the recommended break-in times?

[@MrAyrit]

I usually let them run for a day or two before I sit down to really listen. I just use whatever cable is convenient.

[@Stoney-Lawson]

I’m convinced you made half of what you said.

[@MrAyrit]

I always welcome alternative opinions. Please share them if you’ve got them.

[@1forestweed]

there is any sound different between these two versions?