The Community That Broke Me...

My Friday Night Funkin' mod, Vs. RetroSpecter, officially turns 2 years old. In this video I talk about my experiences I've had with the modding community over those past 2 years since FNF's peak in popularity. I hope you enjoy this video, I put a whole week of work into it, and is much different than my usual stuff. These won't replace remixes, but I'd like to do more of this type of content!
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[@RetroSpecter]

What kind of other commentary/storytime videos would you like to see me cover? If not that, what remix? Let me know below! Also consider supporting me on Patreon if you enjoyed this video: www.patreon.com/retrospecter

[@setsers1]

We're here for you.♥️

[@nurhanhaziq3241]

We were for you bro😎😎

[@Romalac]

Broken record time again, but- OC lore videos would always be welcome!

[@takonket]

Good luck with your uncertain life, be happy.

[@thiccboi3606]

a storytime about your sona would be cool :3 i would like to learn more about him

[@forfaerghus8092]

Look, there is no shame in cancelling a mod you've lost your steam for. Especially for a community you've come to despise (and for good reason).

[@Cubeytheawesome]

What the fuck did all of us do? I’m sick of the entire community being blamed for a select minority’s actions. We do not approve of any actions made by people that involve fnf. It is not only heartbreaking to see, but damages our reputation. Don’t blame us all. Blame the few who were bullying him.

[@musicman8596]

​@@Cubeytheawesome "select minority my ass" this community got toxic as fuck. I've been here from the start and i've seen this once cool ass community change into a toxic shitshow

[@user-fn8jo2mo2d]

​@@CubeytheawesomeWith how often he was bullied and insulted, it feels like it's not a "loud minority". More like an active quarter.

[@jacksonvoet8312]

@@Cubeytheawesome I like fnf, but it’s a bit more than a select minority, yeah, it’s a significant margin. The fact that you’re so defensive also suggests guilt. I understand, I don’t like being generalized either. But the fnf community is unstable, and full of toxic children. He has the right to despise the community, because it stung him hard. But I don’t blame everybody, just the quarter of the community that’s immature and virulent! Anyways, thanks for talking!

[@ryujikazuda]

@@Cubeytheawesome are you kidding me?? the *FEW???* i'd say it's more then a few to say the least. a huge chunk of the community was absolutely awful. if anything, the good people in the community are the minority, not the other way around.

[@radiclysm]

Watching the entire FNF community descend into a massive union of toxic kids and an endless flow of controversy and shit was painful to watch. Hope you're okay Retro.

[@ivoeggetterobotnick3598]

There still full of really amazing and non toxic people and endless flow of controversy happen to every community but hope retro ok

[@ivoneo2806]

The fnf community didn't descend into that and toxic kids are everywhere on the Internet

[@setsers1]

Just like the old saying. "Fuck them kids."

[@radiclysm]

@@ivoeggetterobotnick3598 Yeah, it's the same as any large fandom, Undertale, FNaF, Countryhumans; to name a few examples. Full of talent yet full of toxic waste.

[@YourLocalSenpaiFan]

yeah it's pretty bad, like, controversies have become something of almost every day, hope it doesn't continue like this

[@supuhmon3217]

God, this reminds me so much of DM Dokuro. Great musical artists, abused by the fandoms they're trying to help... I sincerely hope you're doing well, and know that we will always be here for you.

[@seldomstudios6351]

That was a tragic time. I hope they both are doing alright.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Was he an Undertale content creator?

[@maxhillai8219]

@@DrawciaGleam02 He made music for Terraria Calamity Mod

[@wifiadventures8771]

​@@DrawciaGleam02 As an avid fan of the Terraria Calamity mod, and DM Dokuro subsequentially, he mainly worked on said mod for Terraria. But prior to that he used to do Undertale remixes, including Reality Check Through The Skull, a very popular megalovania remix and one of my personal favorite ones. As for what happened with the Calamity fandom.. Well, there's a lot, but I'm not gonna bother going into it as it's.. a LOT.

[@Cagierpaprika68]

@@wifiadventures8771If you really don’t mind could you go into it? I love calamity and I didn’t know of any of that stuff

[@mineflameblade8788]

I'm truly sorry you had to deal with this horrible toxicity. As someone who has enjoyed your music before FNF stuff. Its heartbreaking to hear that one of my favourite artists suffered. :[

[@tdtla]

I honestly feel bad for the actual creator of fnf, i miss the times we had mods like whitty, hex, ruv and sarv, trollge, SCP, st, fnaf 1, before sonic exe and huggy wuggy ruined everything

[@charleswillhite5375]

@@tdtla I've heard of enough to know that the toxicity was in the fandom before Huggy Wuggy was.

[@tdtla]

@@charleswillhite5375 I know

[@bendysama1728]

Especially undertale ones

[@stephaniedibello2150]

@@tdtlaomg I miss mods like that too, 2021 and early 2022 was good for fnf. I wouldn’t say sonic.exe ruined everything but yeah I get what you’re saying.

[@we_like_quaq7619]

I cant believe how toxic the FNF community is. The creators didn't even do anything to cause it either

[@skaynne54]

Usually, game creators, no matter how terrible they can be, are 99% of the time not the reason. There's different kind of people that can join a community. Good people, neutral one, and then.. you have the morons and toxic ones... There's nothing that can be done about. Even if creator would speak up about the toxic people specifically, I think it wouldn't change much. It's painful, but that's just how things are..

[@ivoneo2806]

Every community is like that but there still is good

[@ToonCatTV]

​@@ivoneo2806no

[@Cubeytheawesome]

@@ivoneo2806I doubt it.

[@lamnoone-op5fp]

Phantom Arcade actually Said in a Live Stream that the devs of the base game as nothing to do with the mod community that the devs wants to makes their own story with their own characters that never actually expected this kinda community but he also talk about that is unfortunate that mods are being cancel but he also give him some tipos and the most importante one:take Care of their health and be Nice to people while finding and exposed bad people and kick them

[@mr.eazilymctriggered9369]

I may have said it in the past, but I'll say it again: While FNF was how I found your channel, I wholeheartedly understand, accept and respect your decision to leave if that's what you want to do. It is indeed hard to ignore the worst of this community.

[@ivoneo2806]

It isn't really hard to ignore the worse of the community when u could just not care about it and care about the not worst of the community

[@mr.eazilymctriggered9369]

@@ivoneo2806 Some are able to not care about the worst, others aren't. I do my best to focus on the best rather than the worst.

[@ivoneo2806]

@@mr.eazilymctriggered9369yeah and well the other shouldn't waste their time on that ,good for u

[@gaming1zanagi-1999.]

Yeah

[@ivoneo2806]

@@gaming1zanagi-1999. just look at the best of the community and not the worst

[@MicbossGaming]

Fnf mod creator: *breathes* Drama, the entire community and their own dev team: Your time is up.

[@croyisdeafFNF]

Ikr. Sad how this community sucks. I wish is was a nice and calm one like Undertale

[@CanalDoPhillipeMEME]

@@croyisdeafFNF UNDERTALE???? just search up undertale fandom.

[@S1ayer585.]

@@croyisdeafFNFdude, the undertale community has always been bad for nearly a decade.

[@croyisdeafFNF]

@@S1ayer585. ok then my bad.

[@SleepyPlushy]

​@@croyisdeafFNFUnfortunately there's no such thing as calm fandom during this decade

[@JediWolfDude]

First off, I love how your characters are designed! I'm glad you payed all your animators and programmers to get this great products! Second, I'm so sorry you went through this. Every fandom these days seems to be ruined by toxic kids. Don't blame yourself.

[@vvitch-mist20]

I watched a really nice, chill fandom turn toxic in a month. What happened? An anime related to a book came out, and kids flooded Tumblr. I got into two fights with children. I deleted my blog, and made a new one, and am not nearly as active in it.

[@ReclusiveOrange]

The part where he talked about a bunch of kids want to flag the mod as NSFW really tell it I mean FNF was never intended to be made family friendly Literally in FNF there is: Week 4 Songs name: Satin Panties, High, MILF Nuts Blueballed A song with gore lyric ( Monster ) The devs never expected it to gain popularity this much Also making a joke for a person paying people for what they doing is just so Wrong 🗿 I mean they worked on it, they spent time on it and they deserve to be paid

[@killercross9929]

Don’t forget that there’s a literal child holding an UZI with unused shooting sprites for Picos songs. Bf was supposed to dodge or get hit by ROAD LIGHTS. We’re dealing with DEMONS and WAR fighters. John (captain) constantly has one liners for failing every one of his songs. And character designs that aren’t made for children. (Mommy mearist, Pico with his uzi, spirit being a LITERAL spirit in a haunted game, A BIG ASS LEMON HEAD DEMON WITH TEETH AND EYES, ETC”

[@beawi994]

Hell, even the title is a joke that would be inappropriate for kids

[@GhostCT3]

And if I recall, the game is suppose to start with bf and gf about to "do it" until the dad stops them at the last second, and yeah, pico is originally from a game where you stop school shooters by becoming a school shooter.

[@deltaxeno7807]

Let's not forget the _ERECT_ remixes where the cover art has BF holding...."rubber."

[@ReclusiveOrange]

​@@deltaxeno7807I thought no one gonna mention that thing lmao

[@kennethlamb4054]

I hate how a franchise can easily be ruined by the fandom that follows it. I hope you can find pride and joy in your work and that people will appreciate what you've been working on for so long. Have a wonderful day, Retro.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

As someone whose been in the fnf community since week 7, I regret my life choices.

[@jacksonvoet8312]

@@Cubeytheawesome Let’s wait a year or two, if the Undertale fandom can chill out, than this virulent firecracker can too.

[@An_Entire_Lime]

@@jacksonvoet8312 As someone who's been in the undertale fandom during *that* age, I honestly think fnf is too far gone

[@jacksonvoet8312]

@@An_Entire_Lime (sigh) that is honestly… probably true…

[@mynameismaybeprobablynever5055]

@@jacksonvoet8312Yeah…Something tells me that Full Game is just gonna bomb when it comes out because of how ruined FNF is now thanks to the Fandom

[@dangit69420]

honestly i think 2020-2021 were the best times for this community

[@catlord1236]

Yes it is

[@goldboy8338]

even 2022 was at least 1% good

[@catlord1236]

@@goldboy8338 yes

[@Noob10346GD]

@@catlord1236 now its shit cuz theres just nothing interesting anymore

[@RainyCobra]

It's honestly kinda sad where the community has veered towards when it comes to the popular mods. And sorry for everything that's happened along the way. Your mod is one I still frequently replay just because the songs are so fun. Hope you do well in your future ventures Retro

[@Windblight_]

Yeah it is kinda sad honestly . Oh and hey rainy, like ur vids

[@Kunari05]

I think the reason why creepy pasta mods are popular is because most people still see fnf as a "kids game" and the horror mods are seen as "mold breaking" Anyway, best of luck with the mod development and other stuff your doing ❤

[@ivoneo2806]

Well in my opinion not technically

[@Evil_Wizard732]

I think it's just simply that horror is really popular nowadays

[@planetcoolzon]

I don’t see why they THINK ITS FOR GODAMN KIDS!

[@mushroom4466]

Nah. Kids just have a tendency to like stuff they aren't supposed to. Funny rapping game with implied sex + bloody Sonic Hedgehog = double attraction.

[@ivoneo2806]

@@mushroom4466 no it doesn't that's nonsense

[@trainerlsw]

I’ve left the community a pretty long time ago. It was a great community, full of creativity, then it became a mess of controversy and mistrust. I was one of those people hoping for the community to get better, only for it to get worse, and worse. There are some people that are still fine, it’s just that the “minority” became the “majority.”

[@user-69420__]

Yeah true i also left it a while ago

[@17DiamondMan]

I Kinda Forgot About it. Never Interacted With Other Community Members as I Have no Social Media. Hell my Parents Dont Even ALLOW me to Have my Own KZbin ACCOUNT. This is Fucking Private ;-; Edit: And Here I Go Getting off Topic Again...

[@jiwanlal7149]

i left it too ,just .......groomers and racists everywhere

[@RescuedBoss97]

I feel this, I got into the game when week 2 first came out and I was like, "wow I hope more people get into this and the game gets a good sized community." Now I can't stand this game and I wished I gatekeeped when it was new

[@GreenLindao]

yeah bro, miss 2020/2021 that friday night funkin had a resounding success and many songs full of creativity, nowadays it's not even worth seeing what this game has become...

[@lightningisfake]

"I'LL CUT OFF YOUR NUTSACK AND NAIL IT TO MY DOOR" bro that caught me off guard anyway hope you're doing alright retro!

[@Senstraiza]

Your experiences with the FNF community definitely have shaped parts of where it has gone to currently but I feel that with the amount of younger people in the community its really hard to have a productive team and an enjoyable time working on a mod without all the leaking or other petty dramas that come along with it. My heart goes out to you, Kamex and the rest of the team still hard at work with Retrospecter V2 since this stuff sadly takes so long to work on with each and every tiny drama or serious irl situation pushing stuff back more and more. Wishing the best for the future of your channel and the FNF content you create with less drama and problems from the entire community!

[@omegadragonRandom]

It does suck that the community around a game I really enjoy just tears itself and other creators apart. And I feel the whole part where it takes a long time to get something done

[@ivoneo2806]

That what any game community gets that and that how the internet be

[@JG_Turboblaze]

​​​​​​@@ivoneo2806 actually, I've seen quite a few cases where creators have been torn apart just from trying to do something they find fun within the FNF community. I'm not going to discount the fact that there are some talented people in this community, but saying that this community isn't horrendous to a degree and tearing itself apart is just a hardcore case of denial. I can quote three MASSIVE instances of it: Untold Loneliness, YCRE, and Trinity were all songs that got a TON of hate for absolutely no reason (this happened on Twitter, by the way). Personally, I only stay in this cesspool of a community because of the good people I work with and the fact that I find making music fun. I hate the toxicity that this community oozes, but I can put it aside because of these factors. Take away one of these facts and I would have dipped a long time ago. And yes, this toxicity is everywhere on the internet, but it's especially prevalent in the FNF community specifically. And I'm not even going to go into the sheer amount of drama present for the sake of my sanity, but the fact that people in the community is obsessed with a streak of how many days we can go without FNF drama speaks for itself. (ah yes, nice edit.)

[@duecej6499]

I know how you feel

[@N-A_Mentally]

I just wanted good mods from a good community but sadly nothing good lasts forever

[@ivoneo2806]

@@N-A_Mentally then go watch good mods then

[@TomGonnaGetcha]

This community can be stressful. For Twitter users, especially for my developers. It’s OK to take your time and cancel the mod if you need, at least I will be here for you to support you. Your mind is more important than anything. Love ya❤

[@loryoshidragon870]

It’s good to hear that the update is at least halfway there, but take as much time as you need. Don’t stress too much. Take some breaks if you need to.

[@lorainaclark9703]

I hope your recovering well from this hellish experience with the community. I personally loved every song, and character your mod had to offer, it was very fun to play.

[@bella_daze3092]

Seeing this breaks my heart. The mod community should’ve been a place to come together and be creative together. I watched the mod community grow and saw how bad it became… I don’t and will never blame you for leaving. You take care of yourself, okay?

[@TheEnd-um7yd]

Honestly I think commentary community is the one to blame here by blowing things way out of fucking proportion. If he decides that’s he is not making mods anymore that’s his decision and more power to him. However I believe there is only so much ‘drama’ is because of the aleph one number of idiot commentary channels fishing for drama because they hate fun I don’t know.

[@Shin3y]

I and my friend Yuramagnet quit making music and art for the FnF community because of exactly these points. The mod creators were horrible to us, and refused to pay us competent pay for our work, so we would send in incomplete files and then drop the projects. Eventually, we quit making anything for the FnF community, and Yura even quit making music on his main entirely. (Yura still produces but not on KZbin or by the same name.)

[@purple_soda2801]

Im terribly sorry all this happened to you.

[@oarturpadovani]

The fnf community is hard to bear, and all these situations are very upsetting. Your mod always has been my favorite and I don't care if it will be canceled or not, I wish you the best for your life, Retro!

[@ivoneo2806]

The fnf community isn't hard to bear really,duh every single community gets these kinds of situations

[@heavyweaponsguy9000]

@@ivoneo2806 dude just give up you ain't gonna convince the commit section otherwise, idk why you on so many commit threads but my guy just leave the commit section be

[@norrecvizharan1177]

Not everyone experiences said sides to each community, sure, but some do, and they have perfectly valid reasons for wanting to avoid said community. Personal experience is still completely valid in the end, after all.@@ivoneo2806

[@ajgameguy3674]

​​@@ivoneo2806What is with you trying to downplay the community's toxicity? Sure, there's obviously a part of the fandom that actually has decent people in it, but that doesn't negate that the toxic part still very much exists and affects people. Going "Duh, all communities are toxic" or "The FNF community isn't that bad" ain't gonna change that and is just insensitive to the people that genuinely got screwed over by the community.

[@ivoneo2806]

@@ajgameguy3674 🗿l wasn't downplaying anything just being positive for the community, The community has a decent and fair amount( or alot ) of really nice people in it and it kinda does really ( like other communitys have) Yeah ik every community has that but all the good in every community can beat it in their own ways and Bruh it is gonna to change that and it isn't insensitive also cause u do realize that anyone can get screwed over by any community right

[@MasterJongXG]

Man it is really a shame that they were a generation clash with tons of misunderstanding and as well people becoming way to sensitive with harmless words/topics

[@otamatonefan8996]

Honestly i can see it coming from a lot of people in newer generations. There is so much stupid unhinged nonsense often thanks to tiktok, attention span dying, clickbait trends, literal stolen content, politics (especially gender politics where anyone can claim anything and throw accusations), etc. The internet is where those people's sanity goes to die in echo chambers.

[@TheDapperDragon]

Thing is, it's not 'misunderstanding', it's fully intentional. People taught their kids if they feign damage and scream loud enough, they get their way.

[@otamatonefan8996]

@@TheDapperDragon that's true but won't apply to everyone. Rudeness can be intentional, but it can also come from lack of wisdom and thus sometimes is never addressed before it festers.

[@KathrynMusical]

Retro, as a dedicated subscriber of this channel...no, as a supportive person, you take as much time as you need. We'll all be here to support you like we have since you began. I know this is easier said than done, but don't listen to the kids of the community. They're just kids and they don't care about others feelings all that much. We want you to be happy, so take as much time as you need. It's not easy dealing with communities like this, especially since most gaming communities are just filled with toxic children. Keep in mind, however, that your fanbase has stuck with you throughout this rough journey of yours. We all love you, Retro!

[@casual1857]

Feel better amiigo, You're health comes first. Take your time, you've been through a lot and deserve to go at a pace that fits you. We'll be here, with open arms when you're ready

[@Gatohurrah]

We understand why everything’s been delayed and whats been causing your stress, parts of this community can really be just.. Horrible. I really hope things improve and the community isn’t as toxic towards you man, you deserved WAY better than what you’ve been through.. Stay strong dude, we got your back!

[@joelburg8196]

Hate to see something you had such passion for be ruined in such a way. Your mod is one of the best ones I’ve seen and I would always replay a number of your tracks cause of how catchy they were (like Icebreaker and Running Laps to name a couple). Continue to take care of yourself, man. Best wishes as always.

[@azzyplayzz7026]

I totally understand the drought of motivation especially after everything you and all the others around you were going through. Passion projects are incredibly difficult to complete when involving others and it hurts that much more when things just don't go the way you wanted. I think you've done only your best to handle such events and really showed that determination through all the content surrounding the mod and music made along with it. I adored your mod for its songs and all the great animation, I hope that things have and will continue to turn in a good direction and that you are able to breeze through whatever steps needed to be taken are next.

[@apogeecreativitee7596]

I just wanna say, I found you through Vs Retrospecter, and lots of your songs are among my favorites in all of FNF. I really appreciate everything you've done in this community. I also really appreciate you for Sakuroma. She may have cause issues for you, but my Girlfriend absolutely adores her.

[@Mangle_The_Fox_Real]

Their fuckin minors! But I wasn’t minor… I’m not mortal like …those.. frickin Kids -v-

[@astroblaze4896]

Bro, I swear if it's FNF I'm going to scream. It's always the FNF community messing things up.

[@requiem3192]

It is It says it on the description

[@notthespy7171]

It says FNF in the description

[@ivoneo2806]

It isn't always the fnf community messing things up not that serious any one can mess up, also the video probably going to talk more about the 2 anniversary to his mod

[@EinManU]

@@ivoneo2806 wrong, and wrong

[@ivoneo2806]

@@EinManU right right u mean

[@Sleepyboi_U]

Why do I have a bad feeling about this already? Post premiere: Nevermind, looks like things are fine. Hope you feel better Retro, and take all the time you need!❤️❤️❤️

[@rubiperezquitian8071]

You create an accidental game that changes the internet forever: - it turns out well: five nights at freddys - goes wrong: friday night funkin - no one cares: hello neightbord

[@TheRoboKitty]

I have never joined the FnF community and barely played the game, only acted as a connoisseur of the music itself. And I swear, every amazing mod, amazing track, amazing song seems to be surrounded by an ocean of controversy and toxicity. I hope you are on an upswing now Retrospecter, and I hope you continue to make the content you find fun. (And I hope you don't delete the old work itself, but that's just me)

[@JAY-1-2-3-4]

Thought this was somebodys drama video when I saw the thumbnail, but yeah it feel like the FNF community is collapsing in on itself, I hope the full game comes out, but hopefully whatevers left of the community will be much better than recently, better niche than mainstream

[@shlurpslime1212]

I miss the good old days of modding community, the memorable mods, the genius OC ideas, the amazing tribute mods to different communities, the community is not the same as it used to be :(

[@ivoeggetterobotnick3598]

​@@shlurpslime1212the old good days weren't exactly good either with having a few or alot of bad mods and the community still is of what it used to be , alot of oc mods are still happening

[@ivoneo2806]

The community isn't collapsing on itself

[@ivoneo2806]

​@@shlurpslime1212dude it's not that serious and there are still new memorable mods and awesome oc ideas nowadays too( not being mean)

[@shlurpslime1212]

@@ivoneo2806 yea I kinda just realized that tbh .-.

[@SubmergedDream]

If you want to try something new I'd recommend rain world. The community is small but its not bad. Remixed threat music would be awesome.

[@idontknowwhatmynameis3021]

so true

[@TranAvia_Tranex]

henrystickmin too

[@Zedryx69]

bro centered his entire personality around rain world

[@CassiusStelar]

@@Zedryx69 so? better than being a Trump cultist

[@Local_user]

@@CassiusStelarhuh😵‍💫

[@grimsXghost0101]

Man the community is honestly a bunch of kids but you worked on something you had a passion for and that I respect props to all the artists and animators and programmers it looked absolutely amazing and I'd been waiting for the full drop but I definitely understand why it was dropped. My wishes for good days and more amazing years of content to come❤ your awsome retro

[@veem404]

please please PLEASE take all the time you need, if this project is even worth working on anymore. you've already given this community so much, much more than it seems like it deserves sometimes.

[@lukarikid9001]

Art takes time, and the hyperactive energy of the community can make you go crazy! Don’t give up

[@ivoneo2806]

Any community can do that

[@QuilavaCooler]

@@ivoneo2806 well we talk about fnf community not other.

[@HZLTS]

@@ivoneo2806 Kid you are replying to EVERYONE'S comments regarding the FNF community. Why are you so defensive??

[@ivoneo2806]

@@QuilavaCooler no we don't? (Just saying)

[@lukarikid9001]

@@ivoneo2806 sure any *could*, but think of the audience here: more younger kids. More demanding, less aware of time and effort required, and probably for the most part this contributes to the fervent social landscape

[@SamiTheAnxiousBean]

Dont blame you man, the community is....something to say the least Lets hope you can get the universe youve built up for vs retro up eventually, or if not in another medium

[@TranAvia_Tranex]

ut pun

[@ivoneo2806]

Every community can be something but they all got charm in their own ways

[@swangamr462]

@@ivoneo2806 wasn't fnf next to Undertale and the dark side of Sims 4 in the top 8 toxic/unfun gaming communities to be in? Technically that was calculated a year or two ago, idk much now besides that fnf was 2nd for the most painful gaming community to interact with for group discussions/projects

[@ivoneo2806]

@@swangamr462 no and no it doesn't , and just by some stupid top 8 doesn't mean anything

[@swangamr462]

@@ivoneo2806 no and no it's doesn't what? The reason why I included top 8 because of all 38 websites, 15 gaming news and 12 youtubers the list has been the same or swapped sims 4 with fnf

[@Gamer_Grizzly]

Man...this video was hard to watch. It's hard to believe that such a popular fandom has quickly delved into a hell of toxicity and hate. I sincerely hope you'll bounce back from this, retro. You're a really unique and talented creator. You didnt deserve half of the crap you got when making your mod and i can hope and pray things will start to get better. Best wishes for you, man.🙏

[@cerberus_des]

As someone that already knew you and Kamex from the undertale community and was so happy about your Joining the FNF community, It’s really sad to see all of the backlash you had to deal with for doing absolutely nothing , I just hope you’re gonna feel better , Hopefully quitting or focusing on other things in your life can help , We’re gonna still support you eater way Retro

[@KingONFFE]

Things to do in the FNF community: 1. Leave This comment caught on a bit more than I expected so I’m just gonna leave this edit here, first of all thank you to all the people who liked and even if you’re just reading this. Secondly, don’t get me wrong, I was and might as well still be part of the FNF community just not the modding spectrum and if you’ve watched through this whole video (read comments/replies) you can get some ideas why. However, I found Retro (again) and many more amazing people and things through said community so it’s not all bad through and through, there are just some parts, sadly most parts now, that are rotten to the core. What I’m saying is the modding community and those revolving around it may have brought a lot of bad but there’s still some good left, but the main game and its modding community are two things which can coexist aswell, and the full game isn’t even out yet. Still, It’s okay to enjoy what you enjoy as long as you are not negatively affecting others in the process, same goes for people who dislike FNF, and tbh I don’t have much more to say so that’s all. Once again, thanks if u read and or liked this or even if u didn’t, and thank you Retro for openly sharing your experiences with us so that they may hopefully not be repeated as the future goes on, wishing everyone a good day/night/whatever, I’m out 🙏🏾💙

[@flexizg_]

Yeah.......

[@tarcat]

facts.

[@jatlistheoctopusofficial]

Shut up weirdo

[@XaviHaunts]

​@@jatlistheoctopusofficialToxic FNF fan.

[@hexcomputadorofficial]

I still in But im not toxic

[@PhirePhlame]

I'm quite unwilling to publicise that I'm an FNF fan these days precisely because of the way my fellow FNF fans conduct themselves. We had a whole world of truly amazing things, and tore nearly all of them to shreds.

[@EnzoBRplayer]

I really hope you're doing alright, i just watched through the entire video and seeing all these things that happened to you is really saddening

[@RavioliBox]

That's really upsetting what you went through with all that mess in the fnf modding community. Im always hoping the best for you as a content creator. Can't wait to hear more of your music and make sure to take care of yourself as well. 🤜🏾💯🤛🏾

[@Clementinewoofwoof]

Personally, I am fine with you canceling the mod, I think that you have great potential, and just becoming a musical artist, you don’t need to be under the umbrella of a video game when you’re able to just make astonishing musical tracks on your own

[@LuznoLindo]

Especially when tastes and fads change and, believe it or not, there will ultimately be a date where the hype and love for FNF will die out.

[@Clementinewoofwoof]

@@LuznoLindo exactly!, look at living tombstone, da games, etc etc

[@otomeroid]

This is why I be telling some people in the community to be careful, detach themselves from toxic people, and MOST importantly make sure to keep their distance. I for one am keeping my distance and still am to this day. RetroSpecter you were and still are an amazing modder not mention an amazing addition to the community but if you need to keep your distance and take a LONG time to yourself or if you even decide to LEAVE it completely... Your choices are of upmost respected and cherished. Be careful and take good care of yourself.

[@ivoneo2806]

That what any one on the Internet and all communitys needs

[@otomeroid]

@@ivoneo2806 FR cuz a lot of times the internet makes me want to throw up and shit on myself.

[@ivoneo2806]

@@otomeroid just stay on the positive side of the Internet

[@otomeroid]

@@ivoneo2806 Ye 👍

[@fwep903]

I have a question what if someone drags you in a toxic situation when it has nothing to do with you ? What should i do in this type of situation?

[@drackenguardgaming5882]

Im sad to hear it not getting updated but honestly I didn't watch fnf to play it but to listen to the music and when I found out you made a song for fnf I jumped to listen to it and greatly enjoyed it. Thank you for the work that you and the team did on it

[@dyndamiksysdeforgozenferon641]

This mod, this channel was the one of the first things that get me into the fnf and music, it become like something special for me. It's very great to hear that you was able to get through all of that, we'll be with you no matter what you would do with this mod, what other cool ideas you'll have.

[@joshuajohnson8386]

I’m sorry retro you deserve so much better but you have your KZbin community and kamex to always be there for you and please for the love of god when this mod is finally finished leave the fnf community and never look back please. edit I never expected to get that many likes on this thank you so much for the support

[@Cubeytheawesome]

We in the fnf community who weren’t the groomers and toxic kids also deserve better. We want a decade without any drama and 30 people to help me out with my project

[@gokultheunknown8812]

I agree

[@Qwertyexists]

True. It's like online daters on Roblox. Absolutely disgustang behavior.

[@ksmart1235]

I agree

[@17DiamondMan]

@@Qwertyexists As Someone Who Plays Roblox, They Are the Reason We Have a Bad Reputation.

[@funkinfunkhead]

Even after so long I still really love the VS. Retrospecter mod plus both IPU and IceBreaker. But going way back, I remember when I found you from your remixes! It's a shame to hear how awful things have really been for you and your team in reality. I really love this community but at the same time, I just wish people were able to behave themselves. Hope you're able to bounce back and do your usual thing, you ought to take care of yourself!

[@Rugratkid]

I'm sure things will get better soon. I still have hope for this community.

[@ivoneo2806]

People can behave themselves

[@ajgameguy3674]

​@@ivoneo2806Some clearly didn't.

[@ivoneo2806]

@@ajgameguy3674 ok who cares it just some

[@ajgameguy3674]

@@ivoneo2806 Obviously the people being personally affected by that toxic part of the community. Ignoring the toxic part of the community isn't gonna make it cease to exist, it'll still be there to make being part of fnf community a hassle

[@CodeDes]

love the hard work you and the team has put into the Retrospecter fnf project and the music ya'll make, keep on rockin and hang in there

[@Flame-rp6yq]

it worries me how quickly new fandoms descend into a maddening cesspool of toxicity, yet it starts to make sense when you somehow have games like this are somehow predominately played by children (or in some cases, people that act like them). As an artist myself and a fan of yours for a few years (actually found you through your Hollowknight remixes ^^).

[@gaminggladiator06]

You shouldn’t feel bad for that tweet, that community’s being majoritied by kids that think they run the world. There’s some good folk in it, too, but this hostile community overshadows it’s better half. I don’t blame you for leaving, or even quitting the series, and hope you’re doing good. I’ll keep following your work, you got great talent and a fun cast of characters.

[@ivoneo2806]

The hostile side of the community doesn't overshadowed it better half it better and positive half overshadowed the hostile and major of kids are anywhere

[@cantmakeacreativename2072]

⁠@@ivoneo2806 I’m gonna be honest here. You have been infesting every comment I see here, trying to force this agenda that the community is not toxic or bad in any way. Targeting literally anyone who says something negative about it. Now, of course, there is truth to what you’re saying. The toxic side is a minority. However there’s a point where you gotta accept that minority is either more then a minority, or are a REALLY loud one. It’s shown by the bad people who get cancelled to hell and back after getting exposed while working on a FNF mod, and it’s shown through good people who get unfairly treated due to that certain section of the fandom. I haven’t even started talking about the fact that there was literally a goddamn Liveleak mod for a while. Point is, this community, like every community, has its ugly bad sides. Not sure why you keep pretending those ugly sides don’t exist. Retro himself is the proof here.

[@amanitamuscaria6865]

​@@ivoneo2806I have seen you on too many comment threads holy fuck you're 12

[@RealXylon]

Friday Night Funkin

[@KingONFFE]

If it’s not I’m gonna be a bit surprised

[@Waccayakko]

​@@KingONFFEit's already said in the description

[@KingONFFE]

@@Waccayakko I saw, we all know how this one’s gonna go 💀

[@Mt_BT]

Friday Fucking Night

[@X_persona.]

Lmao, i think same

[@starlocke2956]

im glad to hear part 2 will still be coming out, cause seeing part 1 was so cool and i really enjoyed it. but really any community just sucks at this point so im glad your staying away from them, but i hope you the best and stay positive, its the best advise i can give you, i hope your doing well

[@AM_Mega]

I really feel sorry that all of those things happened to you dude I seen you music for year's and it always cheer me up and motivate me and do a lot of things and I appreciate that a lot I really wish you get better soon and I hope some good stuff happened to you as well we are always here for you especially me good luck

[@nickelements7778]

I'm really sorry that all of this happened to you Retro, the fnf community is easily one of the worse communities there is, and I wish that eventually things could get better. Just keep your head high through all of this!

[@Cubeytheawesome]

Yeah, I really need some sunshine in that place.

[@georgiepig5726]

Yeah the base fnf game itself is fun still and is great but holy shit the community makes the undertale and steven universe communities look like the second and third comings of jesus

[@Cubeytheawesome]

@@georgiepig5726 believe me, when the base game drops, I bet the community might go back to its humble beginnings but with more effort and even more solid bangers. I predict d-sides might do remixes of the entire full game once it releases (probably not but someone else might). Other remix mods like b3 might do the same. I predict there will be more mods after the full game releases.

[@Zac-bo7wl]

I’m really glad you made this man. I used to watch all your undertale remixes when I was young and I’m glad your back to doing regular remixes

[@HPGuy.]

Sorry that the community kinda crushed you dude. Ive been a fan of fnf since the week 6 update, and it sucks to see the people hating on mod creators because without them, they would be getting nothing new. Hope you've been well!

[@Wubtastic5585]

Honestly the FNF community has always been… yeah. I hope you find happiness in anything else you do and I don’t blame you for making this video at all. But whatever you do, I’ll be here for it.

[@ivoneo2806]

Kinda in my opinion

[@luciolins9537]

I actually started noticing how the FNF community was getting so toxic. It's a very unfortute, really. I'm sorry for all that's happening to you, I can't even imagine how it might feel like to have your dream project be so judged like this. Altho I don't watch a lot of streams, you're still one of my favorite creators, specially towards music and remixes, so i wish you the best. I understand why you want to continue Part 2, I guess it doesn't makes sense to stop now, just try not to push yourself too much, do it because you want to and do your best with Kamex. I have a lot of projects too and usually get afraid of them not being good received by any community, but i guess shit can happen sometimes. Not saying It is good. Hope the best to you, cya!

[@ksmart1235]

I like FNF, but I'd rather stay away from the fanbase.

[@luciolins9537]

@@ksmart1235 yup. It's sad, really, but It turns out the community it's pretty trash. We all saw it happening to more fanbases, like Baldi's, FNAF for sometime, even Roblox maps. There are still very good creators out there, like the creator of Whitty and Boy and Girl, the creator of /Pibby, the creators of Hotline 368, they are very talented and great, but the community.. Yeah.

[@Sebenseven]

Every community evar

[@mightyblackguy4655]

I wish you luck brother people can be very annoying, and you can't fight back. That shows how much dedication you put into your work not retaliating against the community.

[@mlaurairisbr6979]

you know, i allways admired your work and when the mod came out it just increased my admiration. i hope now youll be okay and happy, just do what you like. i just wish you the best. Hugs from Brazil!

[@thisisausername9356]

It sucks to hear that you went through this stuff, and the story behind Vs. Retro's development. I am glad that you are recovering though! I am more than fine with waiting as long as it takes for Part 2 as well, your mental health is FAR more important than rushing your passion project

[@riverpal7872]

This is just unfortunate.I forgot about fnf and the community until i saw this video and remembered how horrible it was. Horrible people everywhere and just being toxic at any given chance. There are/were genuinely talented people in this community, but most have either gotten into controversy or left because of tons of other controversy from other people/mods. It just really sucks that this community caused all of this stress and need to get away. I really hope nothing but the best for you retro.

[@ivoneo2806]

That isn't true though, bruh horrible people are everywhere around the internet and every community and the community wasn't being toxic at any chance, that's how any people from the the internet got, and there are talented people in the community and u do realize that how any talented creator get from any community right, and it doesn't really suck and the community didn't cause of this it was just some kids

[@Fredfellow]

With everything that went down I do hope the best for you and the team and I do look forward to when it eventually comes out.

[@milanteurlincx9912]

I love the songs you made. I listen to them everyday

[@VoidAcrid]

I’m glad to hear that you’re doing relatively okay, know that all of the (sane, non-children) fans will absolutely wait for you to get motivation, whether it be for Part 2 or for anything. Take all the time you need whenever you need it man. I appreciate you talking about all of your experiences in a way that isn’t going to be fueled with anger or anything else that gets you a bad look (like with the tweets you mentioned). Stay safe man, and I’m glad to see you’re doing okay.

[@lilith3029]

I've been on and off with your content for several years now and I'm glad to see you sort of coming back. Just please don't burn yourself out, you know? You deserve to be able to breathe and have fun with the fandoms that you're in. Just take it easy, and we'll all be happy with whatever you decide to make over the next stretch of time! Thank you for doing what you do :)

[@OniMane3]

I will continue to wait patiently for your amazing work :D

[@gusztyff7343]

i genuinely love the work you've done for the community... even though it really didn't deserve it.. but i hope i don't forget how important your work was to me, a fnf player :)

[@ShenauticOfficial]

FNF was a fun little game I could get behind when it came to just fun mods and endless, raunchy creativity. Your mod and Indiecross were such ambitious endeavors and things like that I can respect. It stinks how the community is made up mostly by ignorant kids that don't know how to think let alone judge another's content.

[@ivoneo2806]

Ignorant kids are everywhere so not really

[@ZERRVYX]

I appreciate all of the time you've put into the community, and I'm sorry that so many bad things have happened to you. I still love your music, and have been waiting patiently on the update to the mod. I'm excited for whatever you do next! I really hope things get better.

[@ForsternTheProtogen]

Children ruin games and fandom's, FNF had and still has huge potential to be really really funking amazing, just the kids that were attracted to this and butchered all of this shit up is sad. FNF was never meant to be a kids game. Children below 13 don't deserve to use the internet and i stand by that statement like its my god damn life.

[@enderparrot3314]

So true. If only there was a way to drive the kids out of the fandom. 😢

[@Doomguy-pn7uu]

Ay Retro just want to say that as a fan of ur mod (didn't play myself but always watched others play and kept up with updates) i REALLY appreciate all the hard work and love u and ur team put in it and I'm glad u feel better after everything and just want to say that u don't need to apologize to us for part 2 taking long especially after all u and ur team had go through and i wish u to relax, take ur time and just enjoy doing what u love❤️❤️❤️💙💜 (Also sorry for promised fanarts that i ended up not having time to make due to my personal reasons too) Edit: as artist myself, art takes a lot of time and energy not to mention specifically the animations and music so again take ur time and don't feel bad for it taking lots of time❤️💙💜

[@buru2437]

I hope this comment reaches you, though it might just get buried, but stay strong man! Been here with you since the undertale remixes (aka about 4 years now) and you make incredible work, and have alot of talent! No matter what anyone tells you, know that there are still alot of people who like your work, who will be here to support you even if the fnf community is putting you down. And regardless of if part 2 is released or not, we'll continue to support you in the future! You just keep doing what you love, and we'll keep being here for it!

[@megamike7772]

I've been a fan since the Undertale and Splatoon remixes were starting to come out, and I've always enjoyed what you've made, Retro. Your music is great and I adore your characters. You and Kamex are awesome and I hope you are able to feel better soon. I hope you see this and know that there are fans out here that'll support you regardless if it is FNF-related or not. You're awesome, Retro. Never forget that.

[@casualartist0580]

This is understandable, I fell out of the community because of how many molders got outed for being Pedos or something really bad like that and I was tired of it, I did design my own OC for a mod that’s now not really that anymore. But listening to this video I completely understand it all, and I’m so sorry you went through all of that because I get it in some way and I hope you can make pt.2 just as legendary as pt.1 was and just take your time so your happy with it

[@tarunvesireddy9360]

I completely forgot about this channel, can't believe I've been recommended a video after all this years, I loved ur remixes

[@renanosenhordopao6917]

I oficialy hate the FNF community now, its horrible how this community with a great potential became a toxic environment with a lot of horrible people, i wish the best things for you retro, and in my opinion your mod its the best one in this whole community, the amount of love that you putted on that project is visible.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

The fuck I do? It’s the kids fault for seducing the groomers and being addicted to this game not meant for them. It’s not my fault!

[@ivoneo2806]

It really isn't horrible and the community didn't became a toxic environment with lots of horrible people, those kind of people are everywhere on the Internet and the community has a lot of nice and positive people

[@b.a.r.f1004]

and the rest of the mods that deserves love? you hate them too? you really isn't diferent from some toxic people you are just a little better

[@brunettebi4111]

​@@ivoneo2806 Ever heard of the Liveleak mods?

[@atomicninja1818]

He didn't imply anything about hating the mods.

[@BionCrusada97]

Best of luck to you and your endeavors. Take all the time you need to recover and work as best you can when its possible. Art like this takes time and the community you built will be more than happy to wait to see what you have in store.

[@ender00z]

I really enjoyed your mod when it first came out and I fell in love with every aspect of it, so it hurts to see the backlash you have received because of a few issues, I really hope you are doing well and continue at your own pace, don't push yourself too much please.

[@hyhyd6135]

That last umm made me chuckle a little. I hope things get better for you going forward

[@spooder8669]

Really happy to hear that you're doing better Retro, Im excited for your content to show up again no matter what it is

[@scarbon7997]

You're really good at these types of videos I think. I'll be around for a while and really look forward to part 3! Stay happy and healthy retro.

[@BfRapper]

I understand you.Take care,never expected that peoples going so far.Damn,i was waiting for this year to hear about fnf vs retrospecter part 2,i was very exicted to hear about news of your mod.Good luck,be happy.

[@surgeofgaming6405]

I’m never gonna stop watching you and Kamex’s content no matter where you go next. Just do what’s right for you.

[@foxrunna6628]

Take all the time you need for part 2 retro!!! And make sure you get rest, and take care of yourself!

[@sugarbumful]

It takes guts to not cancel the mod after all that happened. Good on you mate!

[@CyberCrash]

Hope you get your confidence back. Your work is absolutely stunning and amazing, it’s also really fun to play (even though I’m awful at it).

[@blackskullbeatzanimatics7166]

I'm still here for you mate cuz really your the one that kind of brought me into the FNF community in first place and because of the awesome music you made i decide to help out with a couple of mods but i can't say which though got to keep quite on that one but overall i know how it feels when all that shit happens cuz that the same with me with the mod drama shit and leakers but one problem i had to delt with was a leaker trying to leak the mod i was working with and My F**KING IP that gotten out hand badly so i gave up on the community for around 2 Years senesce then but i might come back soon just for now i don't know when i might be making a return just note i'm always here for mate "Stay Legendary mate"

[@tobyvenom]

FNF fans are gonna go insane when they realise sex is actually real

[@ivoneo2806]

Not really with most people

[@jessoniakuma103]

You were, and still are, my inspiration to make my own universe for FNF, my passion project, with my own versions of the main (and some modded) cast. I do hope you take it easy on your health and I'll (not saying we cuz who cares) wait till Part 2 is out. Take care and stay awesome, Retro. You're the goat and inspiration for me

[@drallunearodragonwolf]

Best of luck and the strength needed, it is quite a rough path you had there, may it pay off well for you

[@that1cloud925]

As someone from the remixes that aren’t fnf I enjoyed watching this and not being in the loop [which was probably for the best] I laughed at some things and frowned at some but I think this video was very good Thanks retrospecter, I hope you feel better and get better over the course of this year. I hope what you lost returns ❤

[@ElLeonGato]

I first discovered your channel from your Splatoon remixes. And later recommend your other remixes. I was looking forward to what kind of remixes you're making and others as well. Seeing the evolution from remixes and original music. It felt like I was seeing a journey. The toxicity from that community took it like a landmine. Seeing the small beginnings of mods into distrust and some bad apples. Take care of yourself and for the future as well.