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00:00 Intro
01:01 eVTOL Categories
04:31 Aircraft Overview
06:15 Lilium's vision
07:15 Key Tech: Low noise electric ducted fans.
09:01 Key Tech: System Architecture for cruise flight
12:02 Key Tech: Energy system
13:03 Scalability
14:40 Conclusion
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@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
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@patrickmulvany6479
@patrickmulvany6479 Жыл бұрын
I applaud Lilium's leadership for their insistence that they get the physics right without compromise. With the design optimized aerodynamically, as battery breakthroughs happen, the specs will only get better! Kudos to the team!
@user-yc7sg7xj4f
@user-yc7sg7xj4f 10 ай бұрын
Bullshit
@eisleyism
@eisleyism 9 ай бұрын
You definitely don't sound like someone who works for the company.
@stephenho6007
@stephenho6007 9 ай бұрын
Good at cruising, bad at take off and landing. It is a compromise. So for longer range business, Lilium is better. For short trip, it is not. I invested in LILM however for this reason. Also ACHR is having support from USA DOD.
@n1vca
@n1vca 7 ай бұрын
You mean in another 8 years of development they might be able to take off with a single person on board? Why do you applaud something that doesn't work and gets more absurd every year?
@TheBagOfHolding
@TheBagOfHolding 3 ай бұрын
It's a scam dude.
@Zoza15
@Zoza15 2 жыл бұрын
If Lilium succeeds, then the Lilium aircraft will be the foundation design, that all competitors will use in the coming years and innovate as much as they can.
@SimonBauer7
@SimonBauer7 2 жыл бұрын
to be honest it really is good not only allowing for vtol capabilitys but also allowing it to glide when motors fail
@Afmzprod
@Afmzprod Жыл бұрын
@@SimonBauer7 ikr, it's really genius
@rossnolan7283
@rossnolan7283 Жыл бұрын
@@SimonBauer7 The fan choked ducts will act like massive airbrakes and, oh, without any thrust to vector you have NO control -- better hope you have a REALLY big parachute and lots of height . This is a deathtrap in simple terms.
@ejrupp9555
@ejrupp9555 Жыл бұрын
@@rossnolan7283 But winged horses can fly ... so ... LOL. 99.9 percent of the comments on here are acts of defying physics in place of praising fantasy. But not for the reason you suggest. It will fly just fine ... just not very far. Not far enough for it to be useful other than a toy. Battery density needs to improve by a margin of 4x to get anywhere near their 180 miles fantasy. It's designed for a future that may not come and if it does will be so wrought with expense that it will remain a fantasy ... Like owning your own aircraft carrier.
@w8stral
@w8stral Жыл бұрын
Well no, as we can do math, which Lilium can't and is utter fraud. You will note their released numbers are now down to worse than that of a helicopter... They would have been better off electrifying a helicopter. Far cheaper.
@LaurenMartins
@LaurenMartins 2 жыл бұрын
The most underrated video and channel on KZbin. I'm a Glider Pilot who loves tech and follow tesla since its birth, I agree 100%. Last year I told my partner the very words of your video tittle. I'm accumulating as many shares from qell (lilium) as humanly possible! I will not make the same mistake I did with Tesla, of loving but not buying ( I was too young back then). Keep them videos coming, subscribed. ❤️
@Estanislaogiralt
@Estanislaogiralt 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium is on sale now. Buy more
@The-KP
@The-KP Жыл бұрын
$1.40 as of today
@LaurenMartins
@LaurenMartins Жыл бұрын
@@The-KP buying with every spare cent.
@ahmetkaya8143
@ahmetkaya8143 Жыл бұрын
I am a teacher in Turkey. I asked myself this question. My money Would I buy the whole company? my answer is yes. and i support lilium. This project has at least 10 years. You have to be patient.
@TheBagOfHolding
@TheBagOfHolding 2 ай бұрын
So are you down 80 or 90% now?
@andressk5295
@andressk5295 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Thiel (Paypal Mafia with Elon) is Palantir's Chairman. Palantir just invested heavily in Lilium. 🔥
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
That’s right!
@amazingdude9042
@amazingdude9042 2 жыл бұрын
@@eVTOLinnovation Don't flatter yourself. Elon doesn't give a sh*t about your company. He can make it 100 times better if he wants to right now. He is just waiting for you suckers to waste money in r&d and he will just take it over.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
@@amazingdude9042 No, kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWrOpJelodqBhpI
@mzanzifosho1
@mzanzifosho1 2 жыл бұрын
That 16-seater makes me extremely excited - I can already imagine what the new evtol jumbo jets might look like!
@123clis321
@123clis321 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine waking up in my mansion on Mars too...
@dmaschy599
@dmaschy599 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that I am able to see these things come true.I have to talk with my oldest son about these new forms of transportation.80 years ago no one would ever understand these technologies.I will be 81 in september.Batteries, motors,and materials,tecnologies,all add up to what we are seeing before us right now. "THANKS"
@mlohr1
@mlohr1 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you will live through to experience "free" energy as well. A lot of current technology (chips, laser) was created by reverse engineering...
@itisim
@itisim 4 ай бұрын
God bless you
@luxbotics7503
@luxbotics7503 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium Jet is my favorite airplane innovation. So smart in so many ways.
@matkasim
@matkasim 2 жыл бұрын
most elegant and sophisticated EVTOL. go Lilium!
@tgunz2685
@tgunz2685 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. Innovation is key, and Lilium has developed something special. Clear industry leader IMO. Great video 👍
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@amazingdude9042
@amazingdude9042 2 жыл бұрын
@@eVTOLinnovation Don't flatter yourself. Elon doesn't give a sh*t about your company. He can make it 100 times better if he wants to right now. He is just waiting for you suckers to waste money in r&d and he will just take it over.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
@@amazingdude9042 No, kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWrOpJelodqBhpI
@LukeFG
@LukeFG 2 жыл бұрын
How is it an industry leader when Joby outclasses them in almost every category?
@MyTube4Utoo
@MyTube4Utoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@amazingdude9042 Blah, blah, blah.
@theodorehaskins3756
@theodorehaskins3756 2 жыл бұрын
Well first let me thank you for posting this video, I found it to be very informative & instructive, I think that lilium will play a big part in supplying this market & I think the marked is quite large for an E-VTOL jet like this & I wish them luck! Thank you!😎👍🏾👍🏾
@kramrle
@kramrle 5 ай бұрын
Lillium, the Nikola of Aeronautics. When promises exceed reality.
@andrewbaillie6291
@andrewbaillie6291 2 жыл бұрын
I'm following your progress closely, and I think you have beautiful and efficient craft.
@thechuguangda
@thechuguangda 2 жыл бұрын
Good job! love to hear more on new developments for Lilium. It is revolutionary!
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I’ll be making more videos on Lilium. Great company
@DirtySanchez943
@DirtySanchez943 Жыл бұрын
A boring company...
@mgriff5819
@mgriff5819 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT...Will sign up for updates
@fluxcapacitor
@fluxcapacitor 2 жыл бұрын
The Lilium jet is cool indeed, but in the same vein the JetOptera seems to be a much greater achievement in term of personal aerial vehicle, including reduced wingspan, VTOL capability, higher range and lower noise!
@bobcostas5094
@bobcostas5094 2 жыл бұрын
No way
@fluxcapacitor
@fluxcapacitor 2 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening, sourced and detailed comment, bravo.
@yowwwwie
@yowwwwie 9 ай бұрын
I am LILM investor....thank you for putting forth the dynamics of it's flight. Another HUGE issue is power failure. With LILM design the glide feature is a big plus against gravity. יוי
@dandare1001
@dandare1001 Ай бұрын
You should be an engineer. The Lilium will not glide.
@yowwwwie
@yowwwwie Ай бұрын
@@dandare1001 not an engineer....I'm a pilot and you are WRONG. Just check out videos and compare the helicopter like competitors w LILM. Nothing personal....it may not live up to it's projections...but it will GLIDE. יוי
@dandare1001
@dandare1001 Ай бұрын
@@yowwwwieSo you are a bus driver and not an engineer? I rest my case.
@generaclesdey4622
@generaclesdey4622 Жыл бұрын
All Commercial passenger aircraft have dual-redundant systems for propulsion and vector control. The Lilium appears to have a single-event failure mode in the angular control of each ducted propellor "nacelle set", as well as the rotational velocity of the fans. It does not appear that they can glide to safety in the event of certain failures!!
@AB-fh3zc
@AB-fh3zc 7 ай бұрын
Great video!
@sonnyburnett8725
@sonnyburnett8725 2 жыл бұрын
@ scalability, you just re-covered everything discussed prior to that. But it was a great overall review of the capabilities and performance.
@juhakivekas2175
@juhakivekas2175 2 жыл бұрын
Eveyrone making financer trap videos keep telling that 400...500 Wh/kg batteries are here next year. The problem is they've been saying this for some years now. I think 2021 the reality is still below 300 Wh/kg ... which means that to replace 1 kg of kerosine requires closer to 20 kg of battery - simply calculated, without auxilliary reductions and without regen. With them ... 15 kg. It is great tech to come but I find most of these vids too optimistic. The battery development at the moment is betting game.
@teddydavis3504
@teddydavis3504 2 жыл бұрын
They have to be overly optimistic to get investors. Tesla still has never made a profit. Please fact check that point before you say it’s not true. It is all one giant, taxpayer funded, Ponzi scheme. The energy density is just not there, and is not likely to be. We’re probably approaching maximum battery performance right now, with a few very small gains left to find.
@andrewbaillie6291
@andrewbaillie6291 2 жыл бұрын
We should consider a hybrid system with a small and efficient engine running at geared speed and maybe less batteries combined with capacitors. For now, until we finally get those lighter and more powerful batteries, that might be the solution.Lilium by far is nicest of the pack.
@genelomas332
@genelomas332 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewbaillie6291 a small but powerful I.C. engine running a generator system for on demand power, and small battery bank (for the extra energy needed for take off and landing) is the way to go.. A craft like the Lilium would weigh an enormous amount if powered exclusively by batteries - doesn't matter if the vehicle body is carbon fibre or not, batteries are really heavy, and are really shit at holding power.. But replace 80% (by weight) of those batteries with a small petrol or diesel engine (and fuel tank) to produce equivalent power, and that's a winner.. extra upside is as the flight goes on, the tank gets lighter so that adds range and performance..
@kohlrak
@kohlrak 2 жыл бұрын
i'm a bit new to the topic, but isn't this specifically because we're more or less locked by regulations to certain technologies: such as lithium-ion? I've heard rumors that there's other techs out there, but we just can't use them.
@juhakivekas2175
@juhakivekas2175 2 жыл бұрын
@@kohlrak Yes, but that is the problem. We hear only rumors, talks and promises. They talk about tape hydrogen and of various battery material combinations. But the basic battery power is based on travelling electrons where as the fuels are about releasing energy from chemical bindings and there is a huge difference between these. I have become quite sceptical about the batteries. It may well be that 99% of the tech development is already done. The reality today is about 250-270 Wh/kg and about 350 W/kg without cooling and up to short time 1500 W/kg with very heavy cooling bringing the paower density down again. Best electric motors are about 15 000 W/kg - this means that about 95% of the powerline weight is in the batteries. The new E-motors are wonderful but batteries are crap.
@Klausterfull
@Klausterfull 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mention distances and velocity in International System (AKA km/h and km) :D
@julieta203
@julieta203 10 ай бұрын
Can we just appreciate the quality of this presentation!
@stevemickler452
@stevemickler452 2 жыл бұрын
A perhaps more efficient version of the category Black Fly represents would be the "Flying Flapjack" form. It had nearly vertical takeoff with high speed.
@rocksolidfossils
@rocksolidfossils Жыл бұрын
It's the only VTOL aircraft to use 36 ducted fan engines (a design like no other) minimizing redundancy risks. It's also beautiful to look at. Lilium to the moon!
@agaluszka
@agaluszka 2 жыл бұрын
Looks it is the most clever solution on the market - it will beat ALL competitors ! Only best seats type EO are missing (undersigned could supply them...)
@tamusri
@tamusri 2 жыл бұрын
That is why Lilium is working on 7 seater and other competitors are not even trying now.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
True. They wouldn’t have switched the design to 7 seats if the battery 🔋 can’t hold it.
@cbazzarella
@cbazzarella 2 жыл бұрын
​@@eVTOLinnovation The battery can't hold it. Show me a battery pack that can deliver their power needs (which is at least 2X of competitors) and at the same time their energy density requirements.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
@@cbazzarella ​ On cruise, the Lilium jet uses 10% of the hover energy. Hover represents only 5% of any trip time. Lilium optimized for the Cruise stage while the rest did it for hover. If the battery is a problem, I don’t think they would be switching to a 7 seater, they could just stay with a 5 or 3 seater.
@cbazzarella
@cbazzarella 2 жыл бұрын
@@eVTOLinnovation They already stated that they need ~ 2.570 MW to hover (7 seat), that's like saying their car needs a 3500 HP engine to break inertia (in a few seconds) but when it gets going it only needs 350 HP (for the majority of the trip). Show me a battery pack that can do that.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
@@cbazzarella Ph = 2,570kW. Kilowatt
@waltereliuk2169
@waltereliuk2169 2 жыл бұрын
They show operations in the north east; wondering about winter conditions with snow and ice. It looks like the small fan/wind geometries could make it susceptible to icing, and perhaps difficult to protect compared to bigger open props? Will probably be an issue for all eVTOL systems. I guess the good thing is if you know you are getting into trouble, you can land almost anywhere.
@mathewjohnson5731
@mathewjohnson5731 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the kitty hawk modified with the ducted fans instead of the open fans they have I wonder if a person could get the company to do that when they make it ?
@ranger1783
@ranger1783 2 жыл бұрын
At 0:47 I'm glad that mister elon musk is not a selfish person cuz he admit to himself that their are things that he can't invent and respect the other inventors to invent that he cannot do.. Starting now i have my respect to him.. You are an inspiration to the people😊👍
@ishish8816
@ishish8816 2 жыл бұрын
He mentioned that he doesn't have the time, and doesnt think they're worth the time. Could be quite annoying having these things over our heads in a city buzzing all over the place
@bobritter8854
@bobritter8854 2 жыл бұрын
I'm adding to my stock position
@abd4620
@abd4620 2 жыл бұрын
With ever growing metropolitan cities ( like the one i'm currently in, Istanbul) the best solution for traffic is taking up to the skies.. Amazing video well detailed, prayers up for your channel's and Lillium's success .
@Road_Walkman
@Road_Walkman 7 ай бұрын
Ideal form !
@TheMrSlyxx
@TheMrSlyxx 2 жыл бұрын
Elon Musk could just buy Lilium right now for pennies compared to his company's market cap. And he SHOULD. The EVTOL revenue will be in the trillions.
@InteractiveMediaXVI
@InteractiveMediaXVI 11 ай бұрын
Every other eVTOL looks like the Wright Flyer in comparison to Lilium Jet. Bought stock and HODL.
@sghc9797
@sghc9797 9 ай бұрын
5인승 무게 모래주머니 라도 탑승 후 비행한적 있나요?
@ryantaylor1067
@ryantaylor1067 Ай бұрын
Ive got over a 1000 shares. Very exciting company
@fdortely
@fdortely 2 жыл бұрын
Literally an infomercial for Lilium, next.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
Its based on Lilium research (white paper and blog post). I reckon it’s bias, but I’m happy they put it out there for us to see, very interesting approach nonetheless
@neilkanagaratnam7445
@neilkanagaratnam7445 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, game charging design.
@dirkschwann
@dirkschwann Жыл бұрын
Lillium visitor transfer service between tech-museums Sinsheim and Speyer ? FUN !
@williammcguire5685
@williammcguire5685 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting for sure.
@0Turbox
@0Turbox 2 жыл бұрын
Superb vid.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@edwardtan8307
@edwardtan8307 2 жыл бұрын
Question is how much for 1 Lilium eVTOL compared to other lower tech exposed propeller eVTOLs. If the market can afford an eVTOL worth more than $800k or more for their operations.
@thetasmaniandevilispissedo1041
@thetasmaniandevilispissedo1041 2 жыл бұрын
What is the action range and the top speed of this prototype ?
@Captain7484
@Captain7484 2 жыл бұрын
I like it but wish they could make a smaller more efficient model for personal use that would meet the class specification of a low weight aircraft; so as to avoid the necessity of a pilot's license.
@loftsatsympaticodotc
@loftsatsympaticodotc 2 жыл бұрын
Well the idea of people wanting to fly but not having enough knowledge or skills to even have a license to fly- leaves me 'worried'
@redsea2181
@redsea2181 2 жыл бұрын
I have 3800 shares of LILM and 4400 joby .
@christopheblanchi4777
@christopheblanchi4777 2 жыл бұрын
Small energy density and weight of batteries will make economical and practical use of these jets marginal. VTOL is very energy intensive. Normal glider like planes have more of a chance to be useful in a commercial application. These "jets" are neat but they compromise on too many aspects of flights efficiency especially in cruise. Range anxiety will be a huge concern for the operators. Forget using these in an urban environment anytime soon. The regulatory requirements will make this unlikely. The manner in which air traffic would have to be regulated would require new regulations. These could be useful to replace some executive helicopter transport across town. After the COVID pandemic, we have found out that in many cases we do not need to be physically present to get work done.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
They are very efficient in cruise, especially the Lilium Jet. EVTOLs are happening and there is definitely a market for them. I think you refer to recharge issues, right? That is not totally known yet.
@jonpaton4449
@jonpaton4449 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered a hybrid power source?
@gilbertwilliams3774
@gilbertwilliams3774 2 жыл бұрын
Great!!
@LostAnFound
@LostAnFound 2 жыл бұрын
Rotate the IMPELLERS at a rate that produces inverse sine waves and they’ll cancel out all but the whooshing noise of the moving air.
@mewsez
@mewsez 10 ай бұрын
another good bet I think they need to have a backup genny when that thing is VTOLing though... just in case.
@kisssys5414
@kisssys5414 2 жыл бұрын
Dispatch with a motor out? Quick Change battery system? Ballistic parachute? Cooling?
@loftsatsympaticodotc
@loftsatsympaticodotc 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts are the faster this gets certified and accepted the better. And If I had a million $ in spare cash, I 'd put it all down as deposit today!
@SatinRealty
@SatinRealty Жыл бұрын
Great Well done ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@dougwedel9484
@dougwedel9484 2 жыл бұрын
What stops electric airplanes taking a charge from clouds? The static electricity that makes lightning could be harnessed right in the air at any point in the flight. Recharge literally on the fly. Not even a pitstop. Could this work on boats as well?
@andrewbaillie6291
@andrewbaillie6291 2 жыл бұрын
I like your thinking. More research is needed.
@winni2701
@winni2701 2 жыл бұрын
You would need something like a supercapacitor designed to handle these high voltages from lightnings.
@genelomas332
@genelomas332 2 жыл бұрын
Short answer is: NO Long answer is: Definitely NO. Pilots are told specifically to AVOID flying into storm clouds for the very reasons you're proposing.. If they get hit by lightning, they can be damaged, and systems vital can go off-line.. it's not common, but it can and does happen.. It would make more sense to cover the top sides of an airplane with solar arrays to absorb energy than to try pulling it from clouds..
@abvmoose87
@abvmoose87 2 жыл бұрын
There are allready many good competitors in this section, I really wish he could push his booring company to make that a thing that becomes better and mor affordable so we can get hyperloops
@anaram4899
@anaram4899 2 жыл бұрын
very nice
@dalemsilas8425
@dalemsilas8425 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium 😍😍
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
💪🚀
@gopinathicwai
@gopinathicwai 2 жыл бұрын
What is the battery back size for 280km range jet
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
They will be using 340Wh/kg batteries
@gopinathicwai
@gopinathicwai 2 жыл бұрын
@@eVTOLinnovation how much kwh pack thay are using in jet .like 80kwh pack in Tesla. Your video presentation is super. All informations are clear.
@Boemel
@Boemel 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like something id build in KSP.
@rscott2247
@rscott2247 9 ай бұрын
Ya only if it goes into scale production and sells ?
@hydrorix1
@hydrorix1 7 ай бұрын
Lilium is the SpaceX of EVTOL.
@Muuip
@Muuip 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium 👍
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
💪
@X3MLabs
@X3MLabs 2 жыл бұрын
Trough his mission in swiching the world to EV ... he actually did the founding of it but Equity Free ;)
@ckdigitaltheqof6th210
@ckdigitaltheqof6th210 2 жыл бұрын
You offered an great details to the companies claim of thus craft, however, most of the status don't demo of the rivals comparisons, for one , the craft has only been witness to go little over 50mph travel in video demo, also that claim of inner cities, its too bulk of wing span for that, its also called a "jet," but is all electric, perhaps in the future use electric combustion, because right now, it doesn't have even afterburners. So many small engines, even small, is causing heavy weight and doesn't support the vertical lift with lateral balance very well, wobbles often, because no yaw fins are on the engine, nor dies the engine tilt, during verticle.
@xevious2501
@xevious2501 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium Jet is far ahead of the competition, although their aircraft will not be the first to hit the scene. Competing Vtol designs like Joby and Archer will be the first out the gate, Joby does have a decent eVtol, but its design was quickly derived with little consideration for scaling up. Its problem is in its design. It uses many rather large rotors to life a rather small payload. It currently supports 4 passengers and 1 pilot. 3 of which are seated comfortably, but the rear two passengers are confined. Unless Archer's Vtol is to support remote piloting, then it only supports 1 passenger and 1 pilot. which doesnt make it viable for commercial shuttle and taxi use as a business. It would find its use as personal ownership and air mobility of the light sports and recreational aircraft category, such as the icon A5. This would also apply to much of the Ehang and Volocopter offerings. Lilium Jet is the leading eVTOL startup/platform its design is completely different than the competition. Eliminating the use of many exposed rotors, providing levels of safety non of the others can match. And its design readly sees to scalablity without much rethinking in terms of engineering. Though they first prototyped from 2 to 4 seater aircraft, they now plan to launch with a 7 seater aircraft. 1 pilot 6 passengers. which from a business aspect makes it perfect for commercial use and revenue gain. Ironically although not of the same category, The lilium Jet see's itself competing in the same grounds as very lite buisness jet class. Of course it niether has the speed nor range of such jets like the new HONDA JET, elite series. Lilium Jet shares the same 6 passenger occupancy as the Honda Jet. 1 additional pilot seat appose to honda jets 2. never the less. regional routes would be of key interest of both. Small regional charter airlines may find themselves mixing their fleet options between those of lilium jet and honda jet and other turbo prop options. And Evtol in ones fleet would see to vast reductions in cost and maintenance.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. I still believe there will be a market for the Joby s4, I'd like to know what JoeBen has in mind to scale things up
@trekkeruss
@trekkeruss 2 жыл бұрын
How did you determine they are far ahead of competition? Because their's looks cooler? A mock-up means nothing. Yes, I am aware of their test flights, but they have not shown any progress in almost two years, AND the test flight they posted has no audio, nor can you determine if the aircraft is even full-sized or just a scaled model. You say unlike the competition, their craft is scalable? They have not shown that either; just animations of scaled-up craft and again their mock-up.
@LukeFG
@LukeFG 2 жыл бұрын
@@trekkeruss Joby is ahead of Lillium in every major category of their eVTOL, besides the amount of seating. Correct me if I’m wrong
@trekkeruss
@trekkeruss 2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeFG The seating in the Lillium is largely irrelevant. They can show as many cool looking mockups as they want. Lillium has not flown with a single person. Whoever comes out on top, I think this market is still only going to serve the rich. Anyone who thinks this is going to be for the masses with cheap Uber/Lyft-like jaunts around town is probably mistaken.
@LukeFG
@LukeFG 2 жыл бұрын
@@trekkeruss I agree. I know Joby Aviation has received their certifications first amongst their peers, and they have been operating for over 10 years. They have multiple designs with huge amounts of data collected. Joby is by far the fastest, most efficient, and best positioned for success imo with partnerships with Toyota and Uber
@alberthartl8885
@alberthartl8885 11 ай бұрын
The stock market has these shares down to $.38. Engineering geeks will tell you there are some major physics problems with this design. The Joby design is much more feasible and they actually have flying prototypes.
@jay_stack1270
@jay_stack1270 11 ай бұрын
Price went up again
@eisleyism
@eisleyism 9 ай бұрын
This comment section is riddled with fake comments. You guys have an amazing product, do you really need to post fake comments? And for gosh sakes, if you're gonna do it, at least write it so people can't tell.
@Electronic424
@Electronic424 2 жыл бұрын
No idea how they will make a smooth transition from VTO to horizontal travel, in my mind I see the plane diving to gain forward inertia.
@genelomas332
@genelomas332 2 жыл бұрын
The rear mounted fans are in groups, so some can be left point down, while some can begin the transition by rotating to forward thrust, the added benefit here is that the fans draw air over the top of the wings at a faster speed, thus increasing lift, (Coanda effect basically) without the requirement of forward momentum to generate it.. pretty tricky, but it's just physics. So, with this lift being generated by drawn air over the wing, the fact that some fans are not pointing (but pushing forward) down is mitigated out, and the vehicle begins to accelerated forwards anyway.. then more groups of fans can be rotated, and away they go.. :) Transitioning back to hover from 250+kph will be a bit more difficult, there's lots of speed and momentum to wash off before the fans can be rotated back to hover.. Yay for drone tech and the tiny and very accurate gyros they use, along with super quick micro processors to do the number crunching.. most aspects of these flights will be automated which is the smart thing to do, but I do see a market for racing these (and other VTOL) craft on the future as this will push and expand the technology in the same way F1 racing has for the road car.
@rookiebird9382
@rookiebird9382 9 ай бұрын
But it actually won't be able to vertically take off with high payload without increasing fan speed causing more noises due to high disc loading.
@123clis321
@123clis321 2 жыл бұрын
So play the audio of your test rig in take off and cruise flight. Then talk about run time.
@tekanova7480
@tekanova7480 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the single engine performance is.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
Here lilium.com/files/redaktion/refresh_feb2021/investors/Lilium_7-Seater_Paper.pdf
@rsmorex
@rsmorex 2 жыл бұрын
all these videos about flying cars but why cars? am i the only one that watched Agent Cody Banks back in the day? 2 tilting vertical facing giant dyson fans on either side above you and a single person seat in a pod with clear oled screen built in to the windshield to creat AR mapping in real time
@fanxia3100
@fanxia3100 9 ай бұрын
It wouldn't be hard for his team even if Elon wasn't the first mover. He's got manufacturing capability, he's got technology and he's go money to back him.
@garyvermaak9470
@garyvermaak9470 2 жыл бұрын
Those little "jets" will scream compared to the Joby or Kitty Hawk's bigger open rotors.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
In theory noise should be less than open propellers. They will drag a lot more power, that’s for sure
@NGC1433
@NGC1433 2 жыл бұрын
In theory, sure. Have you heared an actual ducted fan powered aircraft in person? At least radio controlled model? I have. My ears are still bleeding.
@MyTube4Utoo
@MyTube4Utoo 2 жыл бұрын
Stop the talking and start the shipping! I'm not getting any younger over here. *lol* Seriously, I'd love to see something like this in maybe a smaller, 4-place aircraft. Incredible!
@dbsWorldheadqtrs
@dbsWorldheadqtrs 2 жыл бұрын
These guys have it together. Simple is greatest.
@anitaneu2486
@anitaneu2486 2 жыл бұрын
To make the Video short here's the Moat: DUCTED Fucking FANS.
@perezlalo
@perezlalo Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very well-explained video. As Nova Verse expressed in his comment, "If Lilium succeeds, then the Lilium aircraft will be the foundation design..." I agree. And, we can help make that happen by investing in them (LILM).
@ErminF1
@ErminF1 2 жыл бұрын
My new goal
@RemmikRotus
@RemmikRotus 2 жыл бұрын
He could have founded and can still found any company he wants. This video thinks he missed out? LOL Trust me, he may be out there at times but he is smart enough to get into what is more feasible at this time. Flying cars are still many years in the future even from this point, let alone 10 years ago. He also likes to state things to put a bug in peoples ear. People get excited and encouraged. He is an influencer for sure. I just hope he doesn't go off the deep end like most rich smart groundbreaking magnets. HE already has shown sign of that or he is just playing the part.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the Lilium Jet? 👇
@base27digital57
@base27digital57 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium has to show their 7 seater flying first..
@sukminmun5826
@sukminmun5826 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium is better than other evtols. Lilium will dominate the UAM market.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
​@david cummings Yes, this Market will be huge and Palantir knows it. They literally do that with their software. They have some airlines as customers
@ganskestortsett5433
@ganskestortsett5433 2 жыл бұрын
@@eVTOLinnovation I think is almost as good as Cargolifter.
@neilkanagaratnam7445
@neilkanagaratnam7445 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, game changer.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
The Evolution of the Lilium Jet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apSre6qFhdWFnLM 🤯
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kricnit Jet noun. a rapid stream of liquid or gas forced out of a small opening.
@vmvm949
@vmvm949 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kricnit heavy evtols will come ONLY after this lightweights evtols are normalized.. not the contrary
@BEEF-EATING-BEAR
@BEEF-EATING-BEAR Жыл бұрын
5000 shares holding
@user-yf1bx6zs7d
@user-yf1bx6zs7d Жыл бұрын
are u okay?
@BEEF-EATING-BEAR
@BEEF-EATING-BEAR Жыл бұрын
@@user-yf1bx6zs7d Still holding
@henzdomstedt4853
@henzdomstedt4853 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the required batteries be way to heavy and bulky?
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium will use 340Wh/kg batteries
@matthiasweidmann8135
@matthiasweidmann8135 Жыл бұрын
Yes, thats the point. 1.5 tons of battery weight at lift off max. weight of 550 kg..... this thing can never lift off. Thats why they're not doing it. 250 Wh/kg is now ....they need 700- 1000 Wh/kg . The 340 Wh/kg is a nasty joke. Or scam. 5min flight time and 5 miles range....no cargo, no passengers, as remote controlled test drone. No more will ever happen....
@louielouie9502
@louielouie9502 Жыл бұрын
186 mph would be impressive for a paper airplane for a jet it's beyond disappoinment.
@Imperial_Dynamics
@Imperial_Dynamics 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a believer
@bennyhampton7818
@bennyhampton7818 Жыл бұрын
Black Fly-looks like a great product.....what do you think, Mr Musk????
@rookiebird9382
@rookiebird9382 9 ай бұрын
Imagine replacing 4 of the motors with 4 jet engines with a fuel tank. The range can be extended beyond 1000 miles.
@michaelduke8895
@michaelduke8895 2 жыл бұрын
"Lilium will be the leader in long range advanced air mobility" I think not. Slick, well produced video. Many technical flaws. eVTOLs are by their nature inefficient. Long range requires efficiency. The video's final statement is an oxymoron.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment. Lilium entire design is based in cruise flight, but after all, as you point out, vtol capabilities greatly limit the range.
@trentgrage5478
@trentgrage5478 2 жыл бұрын
@@eVTOLinnovation well it would be nice to have airlines that go to smaller cities without having to have a lay over in a bigger hub. That’s where u guys would come in perfect.
@UProductions457
@UProductions457 Жыл бұрын
@@trentgrage5478 I think that’s where 30 or 40 passenger versions of these things will come into play.
@ThePepsg35
@ThePepsg35 10 ай бұрын
that's what they said about tesla, I remember when Tesla stick was 100 dollars and they made fun of cathy woods and look at it now.
@Leon-pm6lr
@Leon-pm6lr 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium needs rocket boosters to start efficient :D
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
😁😁
@xchopp
@xchopp 2 жыл бұрын
As I am sure others have pointed out, Musk wasn't a Tesla founder.
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
More on Opener's Black Fly personal eVTOL 👉kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIHPYYyFoc6keac
@dorecannon2851
@dorecannon2851 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Lilium is obviously so far ahead of the rest of the 3D Transportation industry.
@MYOB990
@MYOB990 2 жыл бұрын
If Tesla did take on such a product, it would be on the market in less than two years
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
No, it isn’t about money
@imaji4487
@imaji4487 Жыл бұрын
I believe in Lilium more than any other evtol company
@dandare1001
@dandare1001 Ай бұрын
Do you also believe in God?
@wildlyoptimistic1352
@wildlyoptimistic1352 9 ай бұрын
WOW all that CO2. Lots of happy plants with more plant food. More food for us.
@gregarmstrong4653
@gregarmstrong4653 2 жыл бұрын
Its my guess that the power electronics, motors and some of the battery tech was copied from Tesla patents which were open sourced to the public
@eVTOLinnovation
@eVTOLinnovation 2 жыл бұрын
Evtol batteries have different requirements than cars. I don’t really know what patents were used if any.
@deagingguru
@deagingguru 2 жыл бұрын
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