The Competitive History of Ice Climbers in Super Smash Bros

[@nintendosegaplushmasters9109]

Ice Climbers are really important to me in Smash. I used them a lot in Brawl and sad to find out why they were cut in Sm4sh. Seeing them in Ultimate brought me so much joy. Seeing them walk back in on Summit made the 10 year old Brawl player in me squeal with delight. And in Ultimate they're one of my favorite characters. I have made respects to any Ice Climber player who are willing to put so much time into figuring out the desnyc combos. And that's what I like in a player and their character. The dedication they have for them to succeed together.

[@AtchaX]

They’ve been through it all. They’ve grabbed them all

[@candyball4625]

Thats

[@candyball4625]

What

[@candyball4625]

She

[@candyball4625]

Said

[@pkblazekirby]

GOTTA GRAB EM ALL

[@backup368]

Imagine if Mortal Kombat cut Johnny Cage from all versions of the game just because he wasn't possible in the Game Boy version.

[@ezequielnavon9592]

He Will not exist

[@captainmega6310]

Johnny cage isn't the IC tho

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

Ultimate Ice Climbers are just the Ice Climbers but actually fun to fight against for once

[@lbesavant]

“Mid to high tier” *screams in low tier on website*

[@vjoe5389]

Melee: Wobble go brrrrrr Brawl: Chain grab go brrrrrr Ultimate: Nobody really knows what this character is like outside of Twitter clips and some tournament matches. Nobody even knows what tier this character is supposed to be in! Are they top tier? High tier? Mid tier? Low tier? Bottom tier? Nobody knows. One thing we can all agree on tho is that this character is extremely complicated and difficult to master

[@gamenwatch6269]

Nowadays I see them mid tier (even potentially high) and Big D has been showing that when he beat Maister in Genesis 8 recently. If only they didn't have bad airspeed. Also Icies I started picking them up, desyncing is difficult to do in a match, but really fun when you pull it off

[@beticoandhisevildoge1055]

“And if that upsets you for some reason, I will find you “ Bonk October 2020

[@Exl6243]

They also got buffed in 9.0.0, hopefully fixing the AI, and definitely fixing their recovery.

[@alexwaziry9866]

Yeah

[@69NO]

Yeah

[@seanhart1643]

I am mad Ice Climbers for being the first Black II about the third not anyting they should be in the first

[@mr.player1839]

Thanks :D

[@IzuMido-t1m]

Is there ever going to be a new ice climbers game??

[@Inn0c3nT]

game and watch franchise: first time?

[@SpiralPoli]

@@Inn0c3nT Duck Hunt Francise: first time?

[@Keys60_]

"and if that upsets you for some reason I will find you"

[@ultragamer8816]

12:20 finally you talk about big D

[@skyslasher2297]

There are no other players I respect more then an Ultimate Ice Climbers main that continued to main them since melee knowing they lost their chain grabs but don't care

[@zacksceliten7561]

Proguides should do a video on the new instant double jump tech, it would help out on explaining the tech and how it's done for those who have trouble nailing down the tech

[@j.b.8086]

I love the ice climbers. The fav thing is their teamwork

[@peroxxgoldee2559]

Big D over there carrying the duo in ultimate lol

[@Butterkix]

I do hear that, please stop PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOO

[@sogga_fan]

hi butterkix its cheems

[@Butterkix]

@@sogga_fan Hello lmao

[@omgitsjeromed]

They actually did have a "wobble" with footstool in ultimate but it got patched

[@Snowballsage]

Pretty sure it still exists but only on super floaty characters

[@mynamewasunironicallyyuri973]

Still works on puff, kirby, and paisy

[@dagingerbreadman70]

It’s currently not patched out in any capacity...

[@bam577]

paisy? You mean Daisy.

[@mynamewasunironicallyyuri973]

@@bam577 peach & daisy

[@speedshoes29]

Let's not forget the upgrade to patch 9.0.0

[@oicwutudidder]

Bowser. He's improved significantly with every new smash game and could be cool to talk about.

[@marwin436]

Terrible, mediocre, grab the character and cheese

[@kimaster5893]

It'd be interesting to do bowers competitive history

[@XC11301991]

True, bad in 2 games to eventual KooPah buff, and then adjusted in Ult to be reasonable heavy.

[@xarchrid6765]

Any chance we could see a wii fit trainer mid or high tier video? Community seems to be all over the place when it comes to where she belongs on the tier list

[@aliceenoshima374]

I love ice climbers still remember when i use to main them in brawl

[@TUZOIVAN16]

9:50 Is pronounced "Kyubi", like in Naruto.

[@Seriy_Nero]

Hello! Nice video! Do you plan on releasing “Competitive history of Steve in Super Smash Bros” later? Thank you!

[@agent3299]

This is a joke right.

[@hyingplantilina48]

Better would be, Steve's story with the smash bros. community.

[@seanhart1643]

Ice climb within the first I knew it

[@andrewfirth9858]

Chudat has actually won a major in 2007, Pound 2. Not super relevant today but worth noting

[@crispy0range]

"They may never meet thier brawl heights and if that upsets you for some reason i will find you." well what if i told you this i am minimally upset

[@melomitchell8714]

Ice climbers had their best tier placement in SM4SH

[@robertwillsea3338]

The wobbling will return.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

OMG I was just thinking about yall doing this for them and it came true, thanks for this.

[@Migota_]

I can't believe they only talked about brawl icies for 2 minutes since brawl is their best apearence yet.

[@sylarho7668]

Hey, can you make a video of is pichu top tier or high tier?

[@kremeykrizp9458]

Competive history of captain falcon plz

[@javierbedoya4426]

The competitive hystory: wobble

[@King_Kev78]

Plz do a competitive history for link

[@tyleroliver5077]

200 BPM. The speed of misery.

[@desh206]

I WONDER U IS STRONGER BY WOBBLE OR CHAIN GRABING

[@noahgoldfarb8968]

wonder what will be discussed in this video video: WOBBLE WOBBLE WOBBLE

[@animiyashi7137]

The low views really said something about ice climbers...

[@Herotastic_24]

It’s time to CLIMB CLIMB

[@thanolingo]

They skipped alot of the 64 characters to ics? Bro they've been in 3 games!

[@austinkaukl8580]

And they’ve wrecked one of them, and made the other ban wobbling

[@Duckiefasca]

I was hoping to see a Dynax combo in here

[@jeffreymarcum9053]

You should do link and young link

[@Hi-sc1zs]

YES.. MY MAIN!!

[@mariahwhite6510]

I've played an ice climber game before

[@ultragamer8816]

0:40 I have played ice climbers

[@nathanturoff3496]

Please do the competitive history of Bowser next

[@connorforeman5704]

Do competitive history of diddy Kong

[@davidmarshall3085]

Do Bowser Jr next. Super underrated character, especially in smash 4.

[@blue_musicals]

Let’s go ICs

[@connorforeman5704]

Do diddy Kong please

[@BigSleepy985]

I understood the references. What do I win

[@Anothy264]

i can't believe ice climbers maded in smash bros.who wanted them in smash!

[@ethanroumpf8923]

I honestly think wobbling should remain legal. If it was gonna be seriously banned it would have needed to happen years ago

[@trollpage7]

wobble to the right, wobble to the left. come on now yall.

[@markmenchu3724]

The next competitive history should be luigi!

[@justvivy]

please do roy next

[@aricco4781]

Try captain falcon

[@ultragamer8816]

Patch notes plz

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

I want ice climber to be popular to be present in majors nut not super powerful to be broken

[@dagingerbreadman70]

Good video! I think they’re high tier personally.

[@Snowballsage]

So I’m not the only one

[@nextos]

Icies are Hype AF in ultimate. This video di them right

[@bladewingmcowl5842]

Do Link next pls

[@seanhart1643]

Ice climber game

[@Raziel_HHL]

Either broken or bad

[@Human-Zz9he]

I wish ice climbers could be like they were in brawl (sarcastically) Why do I hear boss music

[@MazuMDS]

If u are looking for a sick ult ics, search for Gnz from argentina, he is sick af

[@sullivans2004]

Yoshi competitive history video when???? I mean, it’s seems like you guys are scared of him lmaooooo

[@ultragamer8816]

Ice climbers is awesome!

[@Snowballsage]

Yay my main

[@Sly88Frye]

Don't think they should have put Ice Climbers in Super Smash Bros for Wii U. I mean they didn't have to make the game the same as the 3DS version. Fortunately none of that really matters now since they did return for Ultimate.

[@Snowballsage]

It’s a good thing they weren’t in smash 4 because the way jab resets worked and unreachable footstools would have given them so many infinites

[@claybomber]

Rosalina and Luma are basically noob level desyncs

[@Snowballsage]

Nah have you seen the wavedash combos

[@seanhart1643]

I play one ice climber game

[@seanhart1643]

Buzz on my tablet and I am on my tablet

[@Krigaranda]

Digimon for smash

[@ultragamer8816]

How do you get through over half the video without talking about big D?

[@Snowballsage]

Because he didn’t get good results as ics until ultimate

[@ahmadkazan7994]

When they are called the 5 gods but almost every competitve histroy vedio features them losing.

[@XC11301991]

I mean if you looked at the results history, nobody but the gods won tourneys for multiple years straight. The God status comes from their skill sure but it was more so the dominance that nobody below them could win a major.

[@Snowballsage]

@@XC11301991 what about the peach video

[@Snowballsage]

@@XC11301991 and falco

[@ahmadkazan7994]

@@XC11301991 true.

[@smudgerize4386]

Yoshi

[@davishmayo1643]

Wobbling. Hand offs. Desyncs. The harder their combos were the worse they were

[@nickq8093]

Eh more like the worse their neutral is the worse they are. Cos of the movement nerfs to everyone in brawl, plus icies getting hitbox buffs brawl icies were obnoxiously powerful. Many characters had no good answers to blizzard desyncs, and some just straight up lost to it alone. Their grab punish game allowed them to compete above the characters who actually could deal with it. Brawl handoffs are harder than wobbling, but not by huge amounts. Melee icies have pretty shoddy neutral compared to the rest of the cast in terms of how good their hitboxes and basic movement is, but their good wavedash and their neutral desyncs allow them to leverage wobbling to compete. Without it tho... they're kinda stuffed. Handoffs in melee are rng unless they're near a ledge, and they have very little ability to restrict the opponent's ability to move around them. Especially against floaty characters. Ultimate climbers simply have absolutely garbage neutral. They have few neutral desyncs to speak of, neutral generally takes place at a greater distance in ult, they're slow as all hell with no wavedash to help them cope, their moveset got nerfed in terms of range from brawl, ice blocks are possibly the worst projectile in the game and to top it all off nana is the dumbest and most prone to SDing she's ever been. Plus desync kill combos are hand-breakingly difficult

[@Snowballsage]

@@nickq8093 neutral isn’t Theo problem on ultimate, side b is safe on shield and starts combos and desyncs so it’s really good in neutral, plus they have a lot of good neutral desyncs in ultimate. Ice block may be bad but it’s made better with blizz block (using blizzard as nana and ice block as popo repeatedly so that nana’s blizzard protects them from reflected ice blocks) and they have a super easy up tilt-up air kill confirm. Even without that, their reliable kill confirms aren’t hard at all with practice

[@JoelVilla55]

So how good were Ice Climbers ACTUALLY?

[@n0ctiz456]

In one word “hell”

[@soulsilvergamer5225]

Hey I'm early love you proguides

[@Pine.appl.e]

I main ice Climers.

[@setsumaki8307]

Hi

[@thenewherooftime815]

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Hey your first

[@setsumaki8307]

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[@MrCrow-tl5tv]

Hi what's up?

[@seanhart1643]

Find me then cuz cuz my great-great-grandmother will beat you up also my great-great granddaddy so find me

[@mr.player1839]

LOL Are you even old enough to play smash bros

[@Radiant_Emerald]

Pog

[@noahbierma1176]

Lies have u seen what sopo can do in Ultimate

[@travisrivas8253]

Huh neat, I'm early.

[@MrCrow-tl5tv]

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