The COMPLETE History and Ancestry of the Irish

[@biulaimh3097]

The Irish and Scots are Gaels. We were mislabled Celts in the 19th century, we stills describe ourselves as Celts and that is okay but really we are Gaels.

[@user-ox8ui7zm7j]

Gaels are the Celts who settled in Scotland and Ireland

[@22grena]

@@biulaimh3097 The Irish are Gaels with Celtic culture. There never was Celtic dna anywhere

[@gabhanachdenogla8342]

The 'Celts' is a Oxford myth created by Edward Lhuyd a polymath keeper of the Ashmolean Museum, and popularised in a book called The Antiquities of Nations. “There never was a Celtic invasion of Ireland or Britain. The identity of a Celtic Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Brittany dates back, not to the mists of time, but to 1707” (Just after the first Act of Union in fact). There is an Iron Age material culture that is evident in findings from northern Europe between Paris and Prague. It is named after a site in Switzerland called La Tène and is associated with what we call the Celts (there is no evidence that these people ever used the term or even identified themselves as a single ethnic group). And none of the things you would find if these people invaded or migrated to Ireland - their pots, their houses, their burial-sites, their coins, their horse-fittings - exist here. As Barry Raftery, one of the leading authorities on Iron Age Ireland, puts it of the presumed Celtic invasion, “It seems strange that a warrior aristocracy supposedly responsible for imposing so many aspects of its culture on the indigenous population should have had almost no impact on the archaeological record.” In fact, what both archaeology and genetic studies show is continuity - broadly the same people who built Newgrange continuing to inhabit the island, speaking a version of the language of the Atlantic seaboard from which they had originated.

[@molecatcher3383]

@@biulaimh3097 If the Hallstatt culture DNA is used as a reference for Celtic then there is not good correlation with the Irish and Scots. Recent DNA evidence has found that there was a significant influx of people from Gaul/France in the early Iron Age or Late Bronze Age. Some think this was when the Celtic languages first came to the British Isles. Significantly this folk movement did not get beyond the south of Britain. This may imply that Scotland and Ireland never got the folk movement but did get the language. Genetically the Scots and Irish remained mainly Beaker. Maybe the Goidelic branch came about through a blend of Celtic and whatever indo European the people of Ireland were speaking at that time?

[@biulaimh3097]

@@molecatcher3383 DNA is irrrefutable but how the DNA or any set the data is interpreted is open to any number of biases. The Irish, Scots and Manx all have Gaeilic as our indiginous language because we are essentially the same race.

[@silviueugen4069]

Hello, i see you havent posted for a long time and i hope you are good and well, i also have a video idea, the genetic history of modern lithuanians

[@silviueugen4069]

Im so happy that you have done a video on irish people, now i got a question did the bell beakers from ireland spoke an indo european language that was sepparated from the celtic language?

[@molecatcher3383]

It is generally thought that the Bell beakers spoke and indo-european language. Many river names in Scotland (also heavily settledby Bell Beakers and later adopting Celtic language) are thought to be Indo-european but not Celtic or Germanic.

[@gabhanachdenogla8342]

The whole Celtic theory was first introduced by Edward Lhuyd in the 18th century - the only proper study was done in Ireland by Julius Pokorny (12 June 1887 - 8 April 1970) the Austrian-Czech linguist, he listed 64 Hamito-Semitic features in the Irish language. Considering 85% of Irish men are descended from farming people from the Middle East (especially Turkey/ Ancient Anatolia), according to research that was conducted by scientists at the University of Leicester in 2013, so this genetic finding backs up Pokornys research.

[@molecatcher3383]

@@gabhanachdenogla8342 The most common Irish Y haplogroup is R1b which is not associated with EEF. Irish are more Beaker than Celtic or Middle Eastern.

[@gabhanachdenogla8342]

@@molecatcher3383 Yeah but all Beaker peoples came from the Tagus valley in the Iberian Peninsula - those people came from the fertile crescent - i.e. the Middle East and again the Celtic theory is a modern myth - made up by a British man in the 18th century, when scientific archaeology and modern genetics didn't exist.

[@molecatcher3383]

@@gabhanachdenogla8342 The Beakers into the British Isles were mainly from what is now the Netherlands and the Rhine Land. The Beaker was an offshoot of the Corded Ware Culture the Single Grave subculture within it. Although the culture of the Breakers developed first in Iberia there is no genetic evidence to link the Beakers from Iberia to the Beakers who came to the British Isles.

[@PaulMoffatt-vd5qe]

Ireland is the full island

[@maryburke5423]

Are you really watching a video that explains how various peoples came to be in Ireland while making an anti immigration statement about Ireland? Also, there are a million less people in Ireland today than there were before the ‘famine’.

[@gaynor1721]

They say the Irish share similar DNA to the Portuguese.

[@markanthonymcnally5272]

By "waves of settlement" I take that to mean "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"?

[@Arab--Man]

they must have had some viking genes too , wasn't Dublin built by them ??

[@DonalUiNeill]

No it wasn't. Anything typically with "Ford" at the end was established by the Vikings. Waterford, Wexford etc

[@Arab--Man]

@@DonalUiNeill oh nice, that col thing to know Is there Irish cities that has specific suffix related to the Gaels only ? NEY maybe 🤔

[@gaynor1721]

​@@DonalUiNeillOr places with the suffix -by like Selby, Whitby etc.

[@Mob135]

The complete history of a dying nation

[@Thebattler86]

The Irish are not and never were Celts

[@TheTrueOnyxRose]

Evidence or it’s fake news.

[@Thebattler86]

@@TheTrueOnyxRose There's no evidence that the Irish are Celts. Im Irish so I think I know more about myself than you.

[@TheTrueOnyxRose]

@@Thebattler86: But what’s your proof besides just your word? (I’m leaving myself as part Irish out of it, because it’s irrelevant.)

[@Thebattler86]

@@TheTrueOnyxRose ''Part Irish''😂

[@michaelmcparland3053]

Do you mean they aren't genetically celts? Because they were definitely culturally celts.