The Complete History of 4Kids Entertainment (2K Subscriber Special)

What was once the most hated company in the world is now nothing but a memory. What happened? How did 4Kids turn out like this? Let's take a look...

[@hamursh]

The good thing about the loss of 4Kids is that its voice actors can finally choose which cartoon they want to be on instead of being chained to 4Kids by contract obligations!

[@NebLleb]

In fact, I saw that some of their former actors worked on an altered version of Bloody Roar 2 as an experiment to see how an old game would sound with new voice actors.

[@hamursh]

@@NebLleb Well I think that Veronica Taylor can be on stuff like The Casagrandes and that's okay because she can be on a show that also has voice acting greats like Grey Griffin, Melissa Joan Hart, Carlos Alazraqui and Dee Bradley Baker!

[@emileyclark5175]

Funny you should mention that. A few days ago, Dan Green tweeted that he and Eric Stuart voiced their characters straight from the manga as a respect for the passing of Kazuki Takahashi. Currently they're trying to recruit the other Yugioh cast members. Not sure how much of the manga is going to be voiced over, but I'm excited😄

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Other New York dubbing companies like Central Park Media, NYAV, TAJ, and Skypilot Entertainment did left their dubs uncut and treated fans, actors, and employees with better respect than 4kids.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

@@dwainsimmons3447 I don't know.

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

What's even more infuriating about Cosmo's death being cencsored, is that Emerl's death is COMPLETELY UNTOUCHED in the same show and to this day it STILL get's me choked up. So it baffles me that they could'nt give Cosmo the same treatment and i'm very confident Amy palant could've done the proper scene beautifully.

[@TheVTable]

Completely? 🤨 Also Palant’s Performance as Tails was already…eh But Maybe she would have been good

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

@@TheVTable No she's the best voice Tails has had period don't even.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

It’s more to do with the hypocrisy of the moral panic.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@TheVTable Amy is a good choice for Tails, but she's using the wrong voice. What she needs to due is use her Mitchell voice from Pokemon: Diamond & Pearl. That character sounds more boyish than Tails.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

Trying to watch good anime in the 90s was hard. There was Sailor Moon, Tenchi Muyo, and Pokemon after school and Toonami at night (I vividly remember watching Akira when I was about 12). I remember really liking the Project Ako movies a lot too.

[@Vigriff]

I have very vague memories of Tenchi Muyo.

[@untunedguitar45]

If you were watching Akira in the 90’s then chances are it was on the Sci-Fi Channel lineup at the time

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Yes it’s hard for you

[@TylerAStinson]

16:55 I would unironicly watch the hell out of Silly City

[@orangeslash1667]

Sin City being goofy makes more sense than you think, because the director of that film worked on Shark boy and Lava Girl.

[@akikokoizumi2436]

it wasn't toei animation, it was tv tokyo which was the japanese company that specialized in broadcasting one of the most popular anime like naruto, bleach and slayers, anyhow tv tokyo and Nihon Ad Systems was trying to sue 4kids for making illegal deals with other companies like cartoon network, funimation and others for the Yu-Gi-Oh Franchise.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Making money is one thing, but when you heartlessly trying to sell the show for a quick buck, that is deplorable business tactics.

[@BradleyBoy]

Ahh 4kids they thought Americans didn't know what rice balls were

[@Launchpad05]

Steamed Rice Balls.

[@worthybutter2004]

7:57 Wasn't expecting a Horrible Histories reference of all things!

[@LazyPirate8]

Funfact: 4kids did produce uncut dvd dubs for yugioh and shamin king with funimation. Unfortunately, 4kids got greedy and they didn't want the uncut yugioh dubs to interfere with their dvd sales and only released volume 1 and volume 2. Volume 3 and shamin king uncut were never released. Their dubbing company was bought out by konami and still dub the yugioh anime today as 4Kmedia since they lost the lawsuit with konami.

[@theassortedhobbyist]

Shaman King uncut dvds actually were released, but like Yugioh, only two volumes are available.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

You have a point.

[@untunedguitar45]

Actually Volume 3 of Yu-Gi-Oh Uncut WAS released

[@inukimeko]

Great video! Super in depth and I loved the fox box memory lane. Wish there was more shots of winx club or do re mi, but I liked your point that 4KIDS could not escape dubbing one piece.

[@georgerobertson7010]

Your Silly city promo made me laugh so hard!! Keep up the good work buddy!!

[@TheDerpyBoi]

8:01 woah! The first time you mention Horrible Histories on your channel! Edit: I think there should be a new block on Fox called “NOT 4Kids” where they broadcast the same lineup of anime, but UNCUT. Where they include all the violence and smoking in One Piece, Cosmo’s death and the romantic relationship between both Tails and Cosmo in Sonic X, and the uncut episodes of Pokemon like the beach episode…..no…..no, I don’t wish for it to have the Porygon episode back…

[@filetofish7688]

I didn’t expect a power motivational message at the end. Great video

[@pmvcentral]

So cool seeing you already at 2.5K! I remember first finding you when you were around 400

[@SoniKast]

4kids isn't over, they split into two: 4Licensing Corporation and 4K Media (which eventually rebranded as Konami Cross Media) which was owned by Konami and basically works on the english dubs of Yu-Gi-Oh! shows now

[@mediamementosofficial]

One is bankrupt, and the other is a subsidiary of Konami.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

4Kids will definitely coming back.

[@foxboxarchives2059]

I think you forgot to mention that the first show 4Kids did when they started was "WMAC Masters" which was a show about a Martial Arts competition competing for the ultimate prize and that was their 1st show they did before they started Dubbing Pokemon, The Cramp Twins was also on the FoxBox block as well and when Ultimate Muscle became so popular in North America then it did in Japan 4Kids had actually commissioned Toei Animation to do another Season. I just wanted to point those out for you.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

So true.

[@IHateSonicHub]

if yall were wondering where Mike Pollick is now and what he is doing he basically got a job at Sega of America and now he voices Eggman and still does to this day

[@AkiraLionPilot]

This was a very good informative video!! I’ve been watching some videos on this channel and what I’ve seen is pretty solid! Subscribed ^^

[@alexlemonds2838]

Without them we wouldn't have TMNT 2003. Doesn't excuse all their shitty decisions, but, you still have to acknowledge that they produced a great show.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

Exactly.

[@ricardonb6375]

At least up until Fast Forward and Back to the Sewers.

[@untunedguitar45]

@@ricardonb6375and skipping over the Tribunal arc

[@twilightozzylovelyrockocip8222]

Someone who accknoledged Doremi! Shame they didn't give it the respect it deserves! Poor time slots, low toy sales despite the toys being really high quality (I had two dolls as a kid but didn't know they were from a show until middle school), putting the second half of season one (which they called season 2) online only, getting cancelled leaving the show on a downer ending, and no official US DVDs except for episode 3 that came with the mini dolls. At least their dub of Winx Club (my favorite magical girl show, Doremi is my second) had DVDs. Hope we can see Doremi get the Sailor Moon VIZ treatment.

[@orangeslash1667]

I don't think Doremi is big enough to get the Sailor Moon treatment. I recommend Princess Tutu as a successor. Tutu starts out simple, but things gets more serious in the second half.

[@LeafRazorStorm]

The only thing I could never stand about 4Kids was how often they change the music. I understand the financial/"licensing" reasons for it, but it always felt like overstepping their bounds solely for the bottom line. Change the dialogue and censor critical plot details for a Y7 rating, fine, but there is NO artistic reason to change the score aside from minute "focus group" bullcrap.

[@LeafRazorStorm]

@KabukiLayerCake I think 4Kids had good intentions back in 1998. In any episode's Japanese track, half of it would have no music at all and the other half would recycle some music too often. I understand why 4Kids would feel the need to "spice things up" under those circumstances. Trouble only came when got too ambitious and, even when the Japanese music improved, 4Kids doubled down, eventually reusing their own tracks so often that later seasons of the dub began to sound even MORE stale and repetitive than early seasons of the not-dub, completely defeating the purpose.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

The cost of licensing the original music might simply have been outside of the budget at the time. Later on they absolutely could have paid out for it, though.

[@aortaplatinum]

I don't see any benefit to redoing the music, if anything it was a waste of money. They already had the license to a series and everything that came with it, except for probably the opening and ending tracks since those were usually licensed themselves, so why throw away so much money to replace Sonic X's fantastic score with some generic, empty sounding orchestral?

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

@@LeafRazorStorm 4Kids did a great job about it.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

@@LeafRazorStorm but the attitude of the executives towards the audience was so horrible.

[@chiebukachibee-zoraedu]

Actually, the Pokemon anime started in Japan in 1997. It was released in America in 1998 along with the games.

[@gudtrazsnightcores6833]

2:49 chris chan always has to come in

[@vaya-dragon1998]

18:00 ‘Dinosaur Sonic X’ This is even funnier when you realise that both Dinosaur King and Sonic are owned by SEGA.

[@napasensei133]

this video deserves more likes and comments

[@VidtopiaEntertainment]

I know about the hatred of 4Kids Entertainment but I didn’t watch their shows that much, but looking at the shows now and Japanese animes as a whole they all try so hard to pander to kids especially with the rap theme songs. If I had to pick one dub that I like from them it would have to be Sonic X, Yeah it’s way toned down from the Japanese version and Chris is annoying but I throughly enjoyed it and it’s where Jason Griffith (My favorite Sonic voice actor) got his start as the character. Though I would love to see what a new dub of the series would look like.

[@devonrichardson44]

With sonic x I like it i grew up with it but i want to see the original Japanese version uncensored and dub in English as a option on a dvd or blue ray release

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

4Kids haters can choke.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

4kids is that hated that their name because a synonym for censorship and for companies that ruins franchises.

[@hiddenflare6169]

I’ll add on that back then around the 4Kids CW era, 4Kids did use the internet and the on demand service for their shows! I watched, of course, Sonic X on demand from them and they mention this fact of the Saturday program, internet, and on demand service every time!

[@MalachiDees2005]

Long Story short with 4Kids during the early to mid-2000s: Those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it.

[@JacobFiveash]

I didn't know that 4kids forced Funimation to tone down Dragon Ball Z Kai.

[@SGTSAM101ST]

Even tho 4Kids has it's ups & downs... But if it weren't for them, I don't think Anime wouldn't be as successful as they r now

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Hardcore fans would disagree

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

I don't care what anyone says about the show itself, have whatever opinion you have. But the OPENING for 4Kids One Piece is straight fire and I will not be convinced otherwise.

[@stephenmarray6553]

15:05 For me it feels similar to Regular Show in Space

[@KnuxtheFanGirl]

TMNT was the best thing that came from 4kids! It definitely got away with a lot stuff

[@KnuxtheFanGirl]

Love Sonic X tho

[@kieranstark7213]

The best parts of Sonic X would have to be Season 3 and the times when Sonic made Knuckles look inferior to him! His reaction was priceless! “ARE YOU CRAZY?!” And this is how the final season started. And yes. TMNT also has high standards despite its flaws.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@KnuxtheFanGirl The sad thing is that even thou people hated Jason Griffith's sonic at first, people grew to love him. Mike Pollick is still voices Eggman, mostly because Sega didn't much options when Deem Bristow passed away.

[@KnuxtheFanGirl]

@@orangeslash1667 I loved his Sonic since it's the voice I drew up along with Mike's Dr Eggman

[@VerdantRange]

Interesting video, but I think you missed a major thing with the ending since they're technically still around. After their production office was shut down, they were acquired by Konami and became 4K Media, which handles stuff for licensing of various Konami properties like Frogger, Yu-Gi-Oh, etc. They're the ones that produce the dubs for the various Yu-Gi-Oh anime from Zexal to today.

[@Universalfeature343]

Yeah even though I grew up with sonic x I have to admit it was basically the SpongeBob of fox box. I even read online 4kids didn’t not want sonic x to end due to how popular sonic x was.

[@mystery8820]

I had good memories of 4K when Tokyo Mew Mew was still on… I loved that show… sad we never got to see Episodes 27-51.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Because people don’t want those episodes to be ruined

[@orangeslash1667]

@@dwainsimmons3447 Especially when the show gets a bit more serious in the later episodes.

[@CJBStudios]

I’ll be honest, I never grew up with 4Kids throughout its entire lifespan, let alone hear of it at the time.

[@bubbles46853-ep9if]

I kinda have a guilty pleasure thing in Fighting Foodons. It was a goofy concept, and puns were everywhere… but I had fun.

[@MrSammyD91]

I'll admit that while I wasnt super huge on 4kids and a majority of their shows, the only exceptions to that were when I became a huge Pokémon fan thanks to them, as well as when they were doing their blocks on Fox(more specifically Winx Club, Kirby, Dinosaur King, and especially Sonic X). I definitely saw some of the love and care they put into these, and also saw how much later they started caring less and less. Ill say this though.......it was truly something. I don’t know exactly what that something is, but uh......it was something.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

But people would still hate them regardless if anime was more mainstream.

[@chillbeatsandvibez7901]

What do you use to edit your videos? Trying to grow :D

[@cherrybombwaffles518]

we need the commercial for Silly City as a separate video.

[@stupidbluebird]

the cwc cameo was a nice touch

[@shortshaker9236]

17:02 My favorite part of this video: Sin City watered-down to "Silly City" I thought that part of the video was hilarious LOL.

[@orangeslash1667]

Sin City being goofy makes more sense than you think, because the director of that film worked on Shark boy and Lava Girl.

[@honxiu]

They only exist nowadays to dub for Konami

[@EmeraldBlack-up6xi]

I'm sorry to say I watched GI Joe Sigma 6 on 4kids when it first came out. Naturally, they didn't air the last few episodes and dumped them online.

[@cobracommander6522]

Thats strange I remember when I was in middle school the TV station I watched in Colorado that showed 4Kids shows on Saturday mornings showed all 26 episodes of GI Joe Sigma 6.

[@EmeraldBlack-up6xi]

@@cobracommander6522 Might've been a regional thing. I know one way Hasbro tried to address it, as well as Transformers Cybertron being in a 3AM time slot on Cartoon Network, was the creation of the Action Blast block on G4. Good luck finding info on it today. There was also MonkeyBarTV, which uploaded episodes of classic GI Joe, Sigma 6, and the Beast era and Unicron Trilogy of Transformers.

[@filmaru8556]

I had the 4Kids Sample Disc which was awesome

[@christopheredwards788]

Now you're at 23K

[@internetdingus]

You either die a FoxBox or live long enough to see yourself become 4Kids TV

[@specspiderken1462]

The 4kids version of sim city is just Frank miller’s the spirit

[@dwainsimmons3447]

In the late 90s and 2000s people hate 4kids entertainment so much.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

4Kids will coming back from the grave.

[@mightyfilm]

It should be known that, at least in anime form, Ultimate Muscle was a flop in Japan. Hilariously ironic because Toei animation dumbed down the source material for a younger audience. If anything 4Kids liked doing the show so much, and it being a mild ratings success, they saved the show with a Westerner exclusive second season. You see, the Japanese series was leading up to the Choujin Olympics arc, but instead ended on a filler arc. Which, kinda is what happened with the original 1983 Kinnikuman series this was a sequel to. 4Kids funded the Olympics arc to give actual closure to the series, though they changed the ending from the manga. Understandably because they weren't going to do the arc after it, and wanted to give Kid Muscle a happy ending, as he loses in the original storyline. That said, they gave the 2003 TMNT series a place to thrive because they were also the licensing company. Mirage still owned the Turtles, but always used a licensing agent. I firmly believe if TMNT was on any other channel, it would have went the way of He-Man 2003. They gave it a chance, it got 7 seasons, and only ended because Peter Laird sold the rights to Viacom before they could start the series over. Of course, considering Playmates pushed them to throw away an entire completed season because of their crappy handling of the toy line, and two banned episodes featuring gruesome concepts (one remained unfinished) forced them to start making the show more kid friendly, that was a blessing.

[@SoniKast]

>Westerner exclusive season >Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monsters >Sonic X Metarex Saga Wow they liked doing that often huh

[@mightyfilm]

Sonic X was just not popular in Japan, but was a ratings hit the rest of the world over. And the funny thing is, Ultimate Muscle was made for Western audience and when they brought it back for air in Japan, it was really unsuccessful. 4Kids had this dumb thing about rotoscoping the Japanese language off of characters' heads (yet not the mark of "Ultimate Muscle"), and apparently the Japanese audience was offended by the fact they just left it off the character. Strange thing about Sonic X, though. The show was animated with all these Japanese references in tact, even written and originally voiced in Japanese, despite the fact it never actually aired or was planned to air. It was painfully obvious in the episode where the Chaotix team was throwing a party for everyone aboard the ship. There's an obvious reference to Kabuki that turned into nonsense. Anyway, the Japanese language version was available all the way back when Hulu was free, but I haven't seen it legally anywhere else since.

[@nowthisisepic1942]

That’s what happened to the CW 4Kids. I always wondered what happened to it

[@TheIkranRider]

Hey, u should play that VHS u have and submit it to FoxBox 100% Awesome's channel; they're really looking for old footage.

[@bobtom1495]

The Vortex... ahhh, the memoires of putting that on as background noise on Saturday mornings... I mist that. Funny enough, I happen to have the last Saturday that it aired still on my cable box recorded in 2014. Just a couple of Cubix episodes, but I remember it like it was yesterday because I woke up with an extreme burning and sharp pain in my ass. Literally... But I do want to say one thing and give my two cents on. When you mentioned The Vortex and why it was doomed to fail, I feel like you're missing the point. There are many factors as to why it failed. 1. It's called The Vortex and played on the CW. Not many kids, let alone teens or adults, would know that because the last thing kids think of when wanting to watch say cartoons is the CW. Hell I didn't even know about it until I was flipping through the channels one early Saturday morning to put something on as background noise. There isn't exactly a lot of notoriety for it. It's like Jetix or The Hub, only a certain group knows about it. 2. The shows. What kid say in the year 2014 is going to wake up early on Saturday morning and say, "Oh boy, I can't wait to watch Sonic X!" All of the shows were old and nobody cared about them. It was playing Cubix for god's sake. What kid is going to wake up early Saturday morning to watch a show from 2001 with outdated CGI that most don't even remember? And say if the kid really wanted to see it, they could probably find the entire show else where on the internet for free and not have to wait until Saturdays to watch it. 3. The kids back then probably didn't care in general. Blockbuster by 2013 was dead. The future of entertainment was streaming and the internet. Kids then and certainly now would rather see whoever is popular like PewDiePie or something rather than to wake up and watch old shows that were made before they were probably born on Saturday mornings. And on top of the that the decline of the cable boxes as well by that point. 4. Saturday morning cartoons are technically still a thing. Sometimes new episodes for shows do still air on Saturday morning, just not all of them. It just depends. Some air at night, some throughout the day, and shows like MLP would air new episodes on Saturday mornings. So I don't think Saturday morning cartoons are out of the question. Just not a special block on channels like Fox or the CW.

[@alexanderveal]

While I prefer the vortexx, toonzai is still something from my childhood that I love. Still do, though for nostalgia reasons.

[@JacobFiveash]

I subcribed to your channel.

[@TheIkranRider]

RIP FoxBox... I shall miss it 4ever. Hey, u didn't mentioned 4K Media, the co that did the Dark Side of Dimensions and owns the rights to Yugioh, even though it's a sub of Konami. I hope you'd still keep the old vids, though; how I first encountered TASproductions. I still like the FoxBox marathon. Even though 4Kids is hated, I still really like the VAs for their work: Greg Abbey, Dan Green, Mike Pollock, Veronica Taylor, Caren Tackett, Amy Bimbaum, Eric Stuart...they're some of the best!

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

4Kids will return this year.

[@KawikaProductions]

6:35 NICE VHS TAPE!

[@darkdoctor1915]

4kids entertainment is a love or hate for me, I kinda love them, mostly since childhood, and hate them for censorship. Pokemon was their best dub, Kirby was amazing, Sonic was great, Ultimate Muscle is underrated, and One piece was crappy, but I still love for how bad it was

[@thegreygoblin5165]

Let's not forget that they had a stellar Ninja Turtles show.

[@darkdoctor1915]

@@thegreygoblin5165, oh yeah, it's actually really good

[@dwainsimmons3447]

@@darkdoctor1915 and yugioh was also their decent dub.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

@@dwainsimmons3447 Precisely.

[@MrKirbyEnterprises]

18:08 They actually lost the rights to Pokémon in 2006, not 2005.

[@WrestlingAndWrootBeer]

I think 4Kids did fine enough with Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh!, but they did Sonic X massively dirty. Also, the less said about their One Piece dub and the censorship of DBZ Kai, the better.

[@carlottajohns8691]

4kids also did a pretty decent job with the Kirby anime too. And I also enjoyed shaman king, ultimate muscle , and TMNT 2003(first few seasons), but yeah the rest of the shows 4kids did was a hot mess.

[@ExtremeWreck]

I've heard bad things about Stargate Infinity though, so that was probably a worse choice than Fighting Foodons.

[@daxbabic1421]

4k!DS edited the ''PERFECT'' cartoons somewhere maybe in 1990's, and then in 2010., they've started 2 screw up with censorship! But guess what people, the character ''Amy Rose'' from ''Sonic X'' was trying something 2 say about it:

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

Yeah.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

It the 2000s that they were hated

[@MainGEntertainment]

Hands down still loved fighting foodons.

[@xxpurplexxrosexx]

The early 2000s looked so fun

[@adamkalb1]

Interesting fact about this video: Media Mementos intended for The Complete History of 4Kids Entertainment to be the 1K subscriber special, but his subscriber count grew up too fast when he started producing this video, which is why it ended up being his 2K subscriber special simultaneously. That is why Media Mementos has no video marked 1K Subscriber Special. Also, he did not gain so many dislikes in this video from stating his opinion that 4Kids is over-hated.

[@richardbeaubian5157]

2:49 Chris-Chan jumpscare

[@stephen4006]

Wait did TV Tokyo tell 4kids to make all those insane edits to yugioh? Because there are *thousands* of differences between the sub and dub

[@facusmendoza1061]

22:46 I JUST LOVE HAPPY ENDINGS

[@ciscovaiese7535]

What's the track that is playing at 22:47

[@megamix5403]

Awww I loved Fighting Foodons. :(

[@vulpivoid6339]

If I were to go back and dub the show's that 4kids had neutered. I would put effort into perfecting the dialogue and elements of the anime while keeping the integrity and staying faithful to what made them so popular in their country of origin. I would use after effects to play around with the dialogue animations to better fit with the English audio. Brainstorm on what deliveries and dialogue choices would be perfect equivalents of how they played out in Japan, keeping the original names and elements, and rearranging the shot orders to complement those deliveries; all in all something similar to Team Forster but building upon those elements.

[@fireflowerfilms2010]

we have our own 4kids here in the uk called pop except they started out terrible and then got better and they even re ran adventures of sonic the hedgehog and sonic satam and as of late sonic x so they have had great shows over time

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

Exactly.

[@doctjoe]

Ultraman on the thumbnail POG

[@eliababebayehu2894]

And It Doesn't Matter; Sonic Adventure 2

[@christopheredwards788]

What a history

[@eliababebayehu2894]

Hey that soundtrack is from Sonic Adventure

[@jerramaurice7836]

I still think they did a good job with their English dub of those cartoons especially for Winx Club and Mew Mew Power

[@carlintaylor2996]

TMNT Kirby ultimate muscle and sonic x were awesome back in the day only shows I watched outside of Abc kids back in basic cable days

[@JogVodka]

2:49 Chris Chan Jumpscare

[@NicklasZandeVGCP2001]

Then Saban after they bought most of 4Kids' properties would not learn from their mistakes, and made crappy dubs of Precure (Or "Glitter Force", because they wanted it to be a lot like Power Rangers.), Digimon, and some of the worst Power Rangers seasons out there, Megaforce and Ninja Steel, that made people think that they treated Turbo and Operation Overdrive too harshly, and tried to do a theatrical film that attempted to turn Power Rangers into a cross between Bayformers and the MCU, which failed because Power Rangers has its own partially Asian-inspired identity, and trying to fully Americanize it would make it feel nutered. And then Hasbro bought Saban Brands and its properties, and had a chance to redeem the franchises they bought by "expanding the brands", but, they messed them up again. They rushed Digimon and Precure out the door, did nothing with the 4Kids properties that Saban bought from them, and made the same mistake in Power Rangers Cosmic Fury because they wanted the show to be 10 episodes, even though, its Japanese counterpart Kyuranger isn't a show you can write into that many episodes, just so they could again, rush Power Rangers out the door with a reboot that is currently going nowhere, and if it is greenlit, it'll probably end up recieving the same fate that the last attempt to reboot the franchise for cinemas did.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Wasn’t power rangers fully the Americanized version of super sentai from the beginning.

[@onceotometime2634]

God, I've always fucking loved 4kids tbh 😅 the dubs are so funny! And honestly, Zolo has a way better voice than Funimation Zoro

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

YES! YES! YES!

[@reidsewing6436]

6:27 I WANT THAT VHS!

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

2:48 Chris Chan?

[@AkiraLionPilot]

Yup!

[@ashlynbrown3728]

That's him alright

[@Launchpad05]

I honestly thought 'The Fox Box' was just as cringey in it's original form as it was when it became '4Kids TV', and 'Toonzai'. The only show that I liked was 'Turtles'. I did give 'Sonic X' a watch, but it didn't last long. I'll never understand why THAT show continues to thrive while 2003 'Tutrles' can barely get any air exposure. Also, I hate Fox, The WB, and The CW just as much as I hate 4Kids for throwing cartoon blocks under the bus.

[@homersodysseus]

4kids is a really good company imo but they should've been more careful without them we couldn't have gotten jason griffith as sonic, or had tokyo mew mew have an english dub (which i will never forgive 4kids for cutting TMM out and not finishing it)

[@darkdoctor1915]

That’s pretty much the same thoughts I have

[@dwainsimmons3447]

I think when 4kidstv came this is where the problem started

[@NicklasZandeVGCP2001]

*My ranking of the four 4Kids programming blocks:* 4. *Toonzai:* (Horrendous!) This block was just an embarassment. Not only did it not have any new original shows originally from 4Kids, and only two acquired shows, its promo structure was all around bad, especially the one for DBZ Kai, where it claimed that Piccolo was a saiyan (I wish I was making this up.). It was also released during the time of the lawsuits, which didn't help, and it ended production on the Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds English Dub, leaving Season 5 and half of Season 4 undubbed, forcing them to rush their English Dub of Yu-Gi-Oh ZeXal. It's just bad all around. 3. *4Kids TV:* (Mediocre.) Yeah, you thought I was going to put CW4Kids at this spot, but, no, I actually think 4Kids TV is worse than CW4Kids. Not just because I had more nostalgia for CW4Kids, but also, 4Kids TV had its crappy One Piece Dub as one of its main shows, which isn't a good look for a block, and it made each character sing the Star Spangled Banner pretty badly as a Fourth of July stunt. Also, it's just kind of bland, as most of the promos felt kind of bland and corporate driven. And the name would be better if it was a channel or a streaming service than as an actual block. 2. *The CW4Kids:* (Decent.) This is a shocker, but, I think that The CW4Kids is actually better than 4Kids TV, and that's because it had more of an actual identity that made it feel at home, and, me having a bit of nostalgia for it also sort of helped with it, and the programming it got from third parties was actually really good, such as Spectacular Spider-Man, and my personal favorite, Kamen Rider Dragon Knight. Not saying it was a spectacular block, its only new show was Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds, as most of the programming was re-runs of their old shows, or the shows just moving to a new network. Not to say I hate all of them, Chaotic was actually pretty good, but, this is where the no new in-house shows or dubs thing really became a thing for 4Kids and their programming blocks. It's better than 4Kids TV, because it at least tried to stand out (Especially with its name.), and it didn't have the One Piece of Crap Dub, and the characters singing the Star Spangled Banner terribly all the time. 1. *The Fox Box:* (Awesome!) This needs no introduction, other than, THE FOX BOX ROCKS! This is how you do a Saturday Morning Cartoon Block correctly. A catchy theme, somewhat stellar programming, minus the pirate dub that must not be name, a cool logo, and NOT forcing your company's name into the name of your block. It also did something the other blocks didn't do (Unless you count 4KidsTV's stupid Fourth of July stunt.), and that is, have a fun crossover with all the block's most popular shows, called The Fight for the Fox Box. It also does a good job of standing out, which helped it remain competitive with KidsWB, their main competitor. If only the other blocks had as much creativity as this one did.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

I think the fox box was being like Fox kids.

[@theotakux5959]

The thing I hate about Sonic X is they ruined one of the best jokes by making it make no sense. In the first episode, he's on a racecar and the driver tells him not to do that, kids might copy him, to which he responds by telling the audience not to ride on top of moving cars. In the dub, the driver's dialog is the same but Sonic says "Don't use Formula-1 race cars to chase hedgehogs".

[@mitr9823]

it's not toei who produced that series of yugioh. they only produced the first unaired series.

[@alextv2944]

7:00 You forgot about Disney XD and Disney Channel (2009-2015)'s flagship being Phineas and Ferb.

[@mediamementosofficial]

I didn’t forget. I just didn’t mention it.

[@alextv2944]

@@mediamementosofficial Fair enough.

[@daelen.cclark]

I wonder if channels like Disney and Nick could brand themselves like FoxBox did…

[@kooarchived]

Yeah... Putting anime in a Saturday morning cartoon block is not a good idea in my opinion. It's fine if it was on Cartoon Network though.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

It is a good idea to put anime on a Saturday morning cartoon block, if you actually respect the material and make it work for all ages.

[@santanajohns5816]

I have to admit 4kids used to be a decent dub company and wasn’t overly hated during the late 90s and early 2000s. After the Kirby dub and TMNT 2003 which were the last good things 4kids did. 4kids seemed to be taken to a greedy route when Sonic X and one piece came around, because like u said 4kids got way trigger happy with the censorship, when 4kids TV came around and more anime was introduced and that’s where the bad reputation for the 4kids brand started. I mean 4kids butchered The third season of Sonic X especially the death scene of Cosmo, they ruined Mew mew power, magical doremi the list goes on. It’s quite sad what 4kids became towards the end of their lifecycle.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

Shut your mouth!

[@dwainsimmons3447]

The worst thing about this is that this spark the idea that if anime was on tv for children, then it would be heavily censored to oblivion.

[@opioidaddict]

Nah the Kirby dub was also watered down and had unreasonable censorship as well (with the exception of episode 89 where it actually was... excusable), but without it we wouldn't have the glory that is southern Dedede and it has made the west a teeny itsy bit more familiar to the franchise in overall (though it is kinda, nothing compared to the 2010s boom with RTDL, that's when merchandise was finally easier to get without japanese importation fees up the ass), so it was a blessing in disguise

[@dwainsimmons3447]

⁠@@opioidaddictbut at the same time, dumbing the show down doesn’t make it better, it means you’re talking down to the audience that are watching your show!!

[@orangeslash1667]

@@opioidaddict Fun Fact: Ted Lewis the voice of DeDeDe, is also Bakura from Yugioh.

[@LuisAlbertoZesatiJRChannel]

But that’s for the Cartoon Network

[@TSQNYEArchive673]

You forgot to mention WINX Club

[@mediamementosofficial]

I didn’t forget. I just didn’t have a place to bring it up.

[@TSQNYEArchive673]

@@mediamementosofficial oh

[@Oscar95451]

@@mediamementosofficial That was my passion project for Disney.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

@@TSQNYEArchive673 Winx Club is amazing.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@sagittariusseiya8310 The problem is that ever since that show appeared, everyone was comparing it W.I.T.C.H.

[@itssupernerd866]

Sonic x actual got me to the Sonic games

[@LuisAlbertoZesatiJRChannel]

But I love this 4kids tv company

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

Respect the 4Kids.

[@LuisAlbertoZesatiJRChannel]

Disney channel??? What about Disney XD

[@javib2978]

My opinion is that 4Kids has gotten overhated too much. They have tried there best. The company's no longer heard anymore. It's a shame, they deserved more chances than being ignored!

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Because of the massive hatred they got from the audience, people don’t want to associate them with other animation companies.

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

@@dwainsimmons3447 Which is precisely that I'm going to do the fundraising to bring the 4Kids company and the rest of the 4Kids voice actors back.

[@TSQNYEArchive673]

The 4Kids version of One Piece was BAD.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

People all United together to hate 4kids in the 2000s

[@tyronleung5276]

Fox box had tmnt sonic wasn't the last surviving show it was tmnt 2003 and yughioh