The Complete History of Mars Needs Moms

[@mediamementosofficial]

It could be worse. It could be…uh…I’ll get back to you on that.

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

Probably worse than Adam Sandler's Jack & Jill Movie, FoodFight, Norm of the North, Rapsittie Street Kids: Believe in Santa, Meet The Spartians, The Bratz Movie, The Live-Action Jem & The Holograms Film and Disaster Movie, right?

[@tayloredwards4968]

Definitely do the legend of Oz. It's definitely a huge scam

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

@@tayloredwards4968 How big of a Scam was it?

[@MichaelScarn-j9j]

​2011 was the worst year for Hollywood anyway even for disney

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

@@MichaelScarn-j9j Not every Film and/or TV Show from each Year can be winners

[@KaminoKatie]

IMO I can kinda get Disney's point in shutting down ImageMovers Digital. To paraphrase Pan Pizza from his retrospective on the studio: "These Mo-Cap movies were such massive investments, yet could barely earn back the budget. They felt like tech demos desperately trying to justify the overblown effort into making them. When the CG was realistic, we(the audience) asked: why not just shoot live actors? When it was cartoony, why not animate it normally? Disney realized they'd save far more money by doing just that, so IMD is no more, but their live-action department lives on"

[@RetroRulzMyTown]

By the way, I should tell you guys. If you wonder what Seth Green's performance for Milo SOUNDS like, there's a special edition on Blu Ray with the motion capture footage playing on a pop up, and Seth Green's voice is left intact.

[@entityontheinternet]

I don´t know how anyone can mock the Ice Age Baby when that hairy Martian Baby exists

[@isaacthemonke233]

Atleast the Ice Age Baby has the excuse of being early 2000s traditional cgi made in Maya. Martian baby has no excuse

[@roberttreacy8271]

Still better than the creepy CGI baby from Son of the Mask.

[@MatthewCobalt]

Nothing can beat that monstrosity ​@@roberttreacy8271

[@CJBStudios]

For someone who likes _The Polar Express_ despite its creepy motion, capture, I’m kind of glad I never had a chance to see this film, let alone hear of it at the time. In fact, from what I’ve heard, after this film was gonna come out, Robert Zemeckis, was actually gonna do a remake of the _Yellow Submarine_ movie using motion capture. Thank goodness that never happened.

[@jailcatjones3250]

I love Beowulf myself, Ray Whinestone was magnificent

[@zillauniverse7208]

The reason why movies like Rango, Monster House, Adevnture of Tintin and even ones from Japan like Gantz O and FF7 Advent Children worked better compared to other motion capture photo realistic animated films was because the creators made sure to stylized the characters enough where they don’t look “too human.”

[@joshuagoforth1658]

Still better than the Star Wars holiday special *shudders*

[@kc_9970]

Can't believe I watched that movie like two times already. The first time was when I was in middle school and the second time was when I was in high school.

[@entityontheinternet]

Muppets 2011 mentioned, thank you Sir

[@danielgudinojuarez6729]

Also, the score by John Powell is really nice. Too bad it got wasted with a uncanny feature

[@MrElwoodjayblues]

This video is a 100/10 Why? Media Mementos is wearing a Idaho pin, and being a Idahoan myself, I feel great to see someone showing love to my state :)

[@mediamementosofficial]

We Idahoans got to stick together!

[@DanialTarki]

Idaho or Udaho -Someone in my high school

[@jamalvargas6146]

So Mars Needs Moms Was The Allen Gregory of Disney before they went and Bought Fox hate bringing that up sometimes and both releasing In 2011 no less crazy

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

At least Allen Gregory was actually GOOD, given how ahead of its time it was.

[@Channeleven2345789]

I guess I'm one of the few, if only, who wasn't scared of Mars Needs Moms, honestly found that whole thing to be kinda silly. That aside, glad to see things went well during the making of it (sorta).

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

Its so weird that I remmeber seeing part of this Film on Netflix several Years ago, along with Hewy Toonmore & The Blockbuster Buster's seperate reviews of this Film as well and ended up forgetting all about it.

[@TallManVanitas]

The only time Zemeckis’s motion capture worked imo was A Christmas Carol. The uncanny valley, creepy feel serves a story like that. The fact that he did like four of these movies was too much, not to mention the constant use of the same actors in different roles. You’re telling me ROBERT ZEMECKIS couldn’t afford more people instead of having Tom Hanks as three separate characters in Polar Express?

[@RetroRulzMyTown]

Oh he could afford more people, he just wanted Tom Hanks in every role for whatever reason. And if you think THAT'S crazy, he wanted Hanks to voice EVERYONE.

[@splat-trainproductions]

@@RetroRulzMyTown Kind of like a kid's book narration or classic Thomas & those other older British shows when you think about it.

[@RetroRulzMyTown]

@@splat-trainproductions Oh yeah, that was the whole intent. But again, he went in over his head by straight up making Hanks a one man show for this movie. I'd be one thing if he was just voicing every character, but doing all the motion capture on top of that? It's needlessly tedious on their part.

[@splat-trainproductions]

@@RetroRulzMyTown At least the train is awesome. Trains are so freaking cool, man.

[@KaminoKatie]

@@RetroRulzMyTown Not to mention that if CG was realistic, why not just shoot live actors since that'll be way more cost sufficient

[@blessingsoke8291]

I vividly remember the commericals of that.

[@baileymaloney3595]

In all honesty, I’ve always thought that ImageMoversDigital was shut down due to Mars Needs Mom becoming a failure. Upon learning that Disney’s A Christmas Carol, starring Jim Carrey, was the one film that caused IMD to close down, along with Disney’s change in the 2010s, I was quite surprised. Even though the cast and crew had a good time despite Disney’s objections, it is unfortunate that the movie failed at the box office.

[@RetroRulzMyTown]

Funny thing? I SAW it in theaters, and yep, me and my mom were literally the only ones there. It was actually kinda eerie, but kinda relaxing.

[@KaminoKatie]

@@RetroRulzMyTown You and her have the theater all to yourselves

[@CJBStudios]

For some reason, I also always thought that the studio shut down because of this movie when in actuality it was the movie that was made prior to it along with Disney interfering. Also, hey Bailey!

[@STAUNCHTV]

dude.....that Rubebrface "introducing janet" reference though, GODLY

[@stproducciones9140]

its always good when a dark tone film has a fun atmosphere on ser. a famous case of this would he the family classic "Saló"

[@AlecRGunther]

2:52 Tbh 2009’s A Christmas Carol is by far the most faithful version of Dicken’s classic story.

[@CharcoalRabbit]

If follows the original text nearly word for word from what I can remember from 7th grade.

[@roberttreacy8271]

It’s my second favorite adaptation of A Christmas Carol (the first being The Muppet Christmas Carol).

[@HelenRock002]

I’m glad the cast and crew had fun working on the movie, but it makes me sad that they chose to go the motion capture route with it. Berke Breathed’s art style is so unique and colorful, it would’ve been a treat to see a big budget 2D or 3D animated film in his style. In the end, what we got is an uncanny, ugly picture that just exists.

[@KaminoKatie]

These mo-cap movies felt like tech demos desperately trying to justify the overblown effort into making them ~ Pan Pizza

[@Adam-xd9tr]

I've never seen this movie and I doubt I ever will, but it's refreshing to hear the history of a movie flop that didn't have a hellish production.

[@masterplay148]

I had no clue mars needs moms was based on the book. Nice to know production went smoothly. Still not a fan of the film. I can still tell that everyone making at least had good intentions. Great video.

[@crypto1368]

Its confusing everybody says they find those motion capture movies creepy even though on the video game side of things nobody is creeped out by motion capture despite most modern games using it. I wonder what is the difference in their technology and technique.

[@crimsondynamo615]

Maybe it’s because of the age of the tech at the time.

[@KaminoKatie]

Movies and games are like apples and oranges when it comes to mo-cap technology

[@zillauniverse7208]

To be fair Mary Jane in Spider-Man 2 does fall into that uncanny valley

[@lizardlord4k]

Shout out to the 6 other people besides me who actually saw this in theaters.

[@RetroRulzMyTown]

Sooooo.....me

[@yeti9049]

I saw this movie on a bus during a school fieldtrip

[@DanielLave25280]

This is one of the Disney movies that have had BOMBED hard Ooooooof and Killed off the IMD studio

[@DrewtheStew1999]

13:15 maybe not?

[@DanielLave25280]

@@DrewtheStew1999 Oooooh rnever mind about that part but at least I got the first one right

[@anamelessyoutuber1462]

A lot of people blame the character designs for people not wanting to see this movie. I personally blame the title.

[@BigEOT3]

After Disney’s Wish, I think I could re-appreciate Mars Needs Moms despite its waterfalls of issues.

[@roberttreacy8271]

I’m personally indifferent towards Mars Needs Moms. While I don’t find it as bad as some make it out to be, it certainly left a lot to be desired.

[@quietchap]

Been waiting for this one 😎

[@frankreads8618]

Thank Christ that Yellow Submarine remake never happened.

[@frankreads8618]

I will never understand why Robert Zemeckis fell so much in love with motion capture CGI.

[@picantepollo6238]

Love the Ratchet & Clank music.

[@danielgudinojuarez6729]

It should've been a animated film from the start, but hey Elio might become what Mars Needs Moms try to be unless it suffers story issues

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

Apparently Elio has gone through a *lot* of heavy rewrites, so I'm not optimistic on that one. It was supposed to have come out this past March, although I know the strikes delayed things a lot too. But the new release date is June 2025, which makes it seem like they still have a lot of work to do, or re-do.

[@bullmonty764]

@@CinnamonGrrlErin1I still strongly doubt it’ll be a success, partly because of potential competition from Ballerina and (God help us) the live-action HTTYD, and partly because it’s now the only original Disney/Pixar film in a sea of sequels (something which probably isn’t going to change anytime soon given the recent layoffs), but mainly because Disney has a just plain *horrible* track record at the box office when it comes to Sci-Fi, especially in the past quarter-century. With all those factors in mind, I strongly believe Elio is doomed almost by default

[@georgerobertson7010]

@@bullmonty764lilo and stitch is a sci fi film and look how that movie did when it came out

[@bullmonty764]

@@georgerobertson7010 Yeah that film and Wall-E are like the sole exceptions to the sci Fi thing; literally every other attempt at the genre in the last 30 years has failed miserably for Disney, even other good films like Atlantis and Treasure Planet, and often to the point of breaking records for historic flops

[@rickshabusky4553]

don't have any money for a patreon, but do have a great video idea you should do on next after whatever you're doing You do a history video on Twice Upon A Time form 1983

[@rafaelbrites3607]

robert zemeckis made great classics like who framed roger rabbit or back to the future,but he thoought that motion capture movies were the future, and he was so wrong about that.

[@gmanley1]

Honestly, if I made this movie, I would have it be in live-action.

[@dgc1570]

Yeah, I didn't think it was that bad either

[@_ryeinwalker_reloaded.]

What if instead of mars needs moms its was mars needs freaks and all the aliens got freaky

[@larrylaffer3246]

Ah the digital straw that broke Robert Zemeckis' Company ImageMovers proverbial back.

[@KaminoKatie]

Their live-action department lives on, it's just the animation division that was shuttered

[@WalkBesideMe]

2:47 Hahaha

[@lillordakira9752]

17:34 Sound like Monsters Vs Aliens

[@tyrannosuperior5248]

I watched once. My thoughts were that it the story and visuals didn't mix. The visuals were way too realistic for the cartoony story. So it ended up just making me feel weird

[@wiiildrose]

I kinda like the mo-cap thing, but I hate "Mars Needs Moms" and "A Christmas Carol", their stories and direction style are WAY too unpleasant to any demographic. I like the idea of a slightly dark "A Christmas Carol" but the 2009 version doesn't makes me feel like the ending is earned, I was around 16 when I watched it the first time and I literally thought that I was watching a horror film. And "Mars Needs Moms" sends a very wrong message, I always thought that any little kid watching it would be scared for life or at least confused like "wait so if I try to be a good kid my parents will be kidnapped, maybe tortuted but definitely killed?" and reading the comments on videos about this movie yeah I was right, it literally traumatized some children. People hates mo-cap and I kinda understand why people wouldn't like it but I don't think it's the main issue in both these cases I mean, if it was entirely mo-cap's fault then a few people wouldn't remember fondly "The Polar Express" even if they still think it looks weird and uncanny. The other two are bad movies because they're bad, being 100% animated or 100% live action wouldn't change it.

[@carlintaylor3229]

Around this time i was more excited for the first Avengers movie at the time more than anything remember watching this in school second semester of 9th grade thought it was just okay at best meet the Robinson's had a better lesson than this

[@untitleduntitled4740]

U think you’ll ever talk about the chocolate factory musical?

[@theskiz5656]

Probably not unless a Patreon person tells him to cover its history.

[@lRlMlGl]

Well you definitely don't have a dirty mind rofl

[@mediamementosofficial]

Indeed I don’t. 😁

[@georgerobertson7010]

Hey media mementos what’s your opinion on Disney’s Wish?

[@lydiajulianprower8356]

Nah, that's not important.

[@georgerobertson7010]

@@lydiajulianprower8356 why not?

[@Krongle]

Hello

[@calebpribyl5152]

I remember in movie theaters Disney had SO MUCH CONFIDENCE in this movie I saw this gigantic poster of “mars needs moms” And I saw the trailers look really bad! (And kind of creepy!)

[@Kerorofan1990]

Why were the alien girls so thicc is my question.

[@KaminoKatie]

They photoshopped E.T.'s head into Judy Hopps' body ~ Pan Pizza

[@otaking3582]

I avoided this movie as a kid because the premise falls apart with one simple question: Since the martians obviously have genders, doesn't that mean they already have mothers? And then years later, I saw Mr. Enter's review, and realized that the movie is even worse than I could've imagined. The movie's lesson basically boiled down to "kids need to have both a mother and a father in order to be raised properly". While I do believe that kids need both male and female role models in their lives, that's not the way they phrased it, so it seems pretty insulting to kids of single or gay parents.

[@mixedking]

Nah, that movie is just bad.

[@MeepmcarthurtheSECOND]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYvJqIavjM2bfcUsi=OJ6_cHUeiqWnnxXf Greatest motion capture movie ever