The Complete History Of WEATHERTOP! (AMON SUL) | Middle Earth Lore

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@RossHolt89
@RossHolt89 3 жыл бұрын
I live right next to the inspiration for Amon Sul! Tolkien envisioned Meon Hill as Weathertop. It’s a beautiful hill especially at the top. You can see for miles around and you can see the Malvern Hills from the summit. It’s a great feeling knowing you live by some Tolkien history.
@thestraightroad305
@thestraightroad305 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could see that.
@sweeperboy
@sweeperboy 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that some kind of witchy place in the local folklore, made by the Devil himself?
@RossHolt89
@RossHolt89 3 жыл бұрын
@@sweeperboy Yeah witches would go up there years ago.
@birdduckylucky2894
@birdduckylucky2894 3 жыл бұрын
I used to like in a place called Blossom Hill on San Jose, CA it was beautiful but there were no hills hehehe
@DarthKhai1991
@DarthKhai1991 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome!
@jefff8106
@jefff8106 3 жыл бұрын
I think Weathertop was the point where Frodo understood the seriousness of what he was actually in possession of and for the first time the hobbits realized that Strider as they knew him was much more than they realized and hence Aragon was now in their minds though they still did not know his significance.
@jimbombadill
@jimbombadill 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Sam began to suspect Aragorn after the attack, and Pippin didnt get that Aragorn was "kingly" untill just before meeting Denethor. Its indeed the first time Frodo see the wringwraits unvailed but even then he didnt make the connection to the ringwraiths, that Gandalf had mention to him in the shadow of the past.
@BJETNT
@BJETNT 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's amazing how blade in the clavicle will do that to you. It amazes me how light the other ones took it and frodo at least knew not to have a fire but it was too late the other ones took it a lot more serious after that point. It also shows what a badass strider really is he bought him off by himself.
@TNG76
@TNG76 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing screams serious like getting stabbed with a morgul blade
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! The place where ELENDIL waited for Gil-Galad!
@gandalftehdank6052
@gandalftehdank6052 3 жыл бұрын
*Therapist:* Calm down, Frodo Baggins almost turning into a ring isn't real, he can't hurt you! *Frodo Baggins almost turning into a ring:* 9:45
@ransombaggins9301
@ransombaggins9301 3 жыл бұрын
Love this! Would love to see more videos on locations, whether cities, town, and villages, or landmarks, statues; even biomes for that matter. A lot of room for creativity here. Keep it up!
@impressiveprogressive7343
@impressiveprogressive7343 3 жыл бұрын
Weather top was a centralized defensive position (still is really) that allowed the controller of the tower to have significant warning of impending attack. Being sufficiently warned provided time to prepared and fortify making any attack that much more difficult and that much more expensive for the attacker in terms of men and equipment, while aiding the defender significantly. The fact that it housed a Palantir only enhanced it as a tactical superiority position. Having a tactical and intelligence gathering advantage over an opponent and knowing what they are doing is invaluable to any Commander or Ruler looking to repel an attack, or even to launch one themselves.
@SylvanApe
@SylvanApe 3 жыл бұрын
Second breakfast was surely the most important event that never happened there!
@HPLOTRGOTfan
@HPLOTRGOTfan 3 жыл бұрын
I liked this video - It’d be great to see more videos on well down buildings/locations e.g. Rivendell, Minas Tirith, Orthanc and Isengard
@EWUFBIiswatching
@EWUFBIiswatching 3 жыл бұрын
I fart!
@bryanmunroe4593
@bryanmunroe4593 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I believe Aragorn would have invested in building his land's infrastructure. As he was a wise and intelligent leader who listened to the needs of his people.
@merakibeats
@merakibeats 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode 🙏 For some reason one of my favourite places in middle earth.
@urfacecalling101
@urfacecalling101 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose the decision to locate the palantir at Weathertop is the most important event to happen there, as it must have been the catalyst that led to all the other major events that occurred thereafter.
@EWUFBIiswatching
@EWUFBIiswatching 3 жыл бұрын
“ BUILD ME AN APARTMENT WORTHY OF FOUR DOORS”
@mojosbigsticks
@mojosbigsticks 3 жыл бұрын
Aragorn gave it over to the hobbits, who opened a tea shop and mule powered cable car.
@philt2170
@philt2170 3 жыл бұрын
I would have loved a more in-depth account of Gandalf's fight with the Nazgul on Weathertop from FOTR. A battle between an Istari and the Nazgul which was 'seen' miles away would have been epic!
@TimeChanger1111
@TimeChanger1111 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome vid, I've loved the old and new channel ;)
@damesl1245
@damesl1245 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a representation of the malvern hills where the 3 counties meet, every time i go up there and look out over the 3 flat counties it always makes me think of middle earth.
@justeisen6403
@justeisen6403 3 жыл бұрын
Which 3 countries ?
@damesl1245
@damesl1245 3 жыл бұрын
@@justeisen6403 Gloucestershire, Worcestershire, and Herefordshire
@WoodlandAsh
@WoodlandAsh 3 жыл бұрын
Gloucestershire definitely isn’t flat. It has a plethora of hills, escarpment & includes a swathe of rolling Cotswold landscape.
@damesl1245
@damesl1245 3 жыл бұрын
@@WoodlandAsh ok not all of the 3 counties are flat but where they meet is relatively flat. Havent lived in England for a good 6 years so my English isnt as precise as it used to be.
@WoodlandAsh
@WoodlandAsh 3 жыл бұрын
That’s ok, I live in Gloucestershire so when I read the comment my initial reaction was ‘that isn’t right’. I lived up north for years and that is very flat, which I find quite off-putting!
@rangerofthenorth1970
@rangerofthenorth1970 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see that number of your sub's is growing. The most important event in my opinnion is Elendil's and Gil Galad's arrival. As always, James great and amazing video, when is the livestream?
@TheBrokenSword
@TheBrokenSword 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We are planning on doing one for 50k! 😁
@Ace-cr9qt
@Ace-cr9qt 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrokenSword what is your favorite race oh and love your videos
@jacob4920
@jacob4920 3 жыл бұрын
What was the most important event to happen at Weathertop?! Well that's easy. ASHES IN THE TOMATOES!!! That's a major crime, to a Hobbit, for which Frodo was never justly punished...
@SuperPAC130
@SuperPAC130 3 жыл бұрын
Before I learned the real reason why it's called "Weather"top, I used to imagine that a herald of Arnor would go up there, take a peak at Palantir to survey the lands, and goes "Hmm...Cloudy today in Arnor, but look like it's gonna be quite sunny and warm down there in Gondor." You know, like a Middle Earth 2nd Age version of our today's weather broadcaster. And so, I thought, that's how it got the "Weather" in its name.
@Cornerboy73
@Cornerboy73 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you.
@annaroselarsen4218
@annaroselarsen4218 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@Huskytabby
@Huskytabby 3 жыл бұрын
What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
@MarleyFett
@MarleyFett 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff guys! Unique on that you touch on things that some other channels have not touched on before. Love all things LOTR. I think I might have learned more from the video games and such until people like you and youtube came out. Great work guys!😁👍
@annatar6453
@annatar6453 3 жыл бұрын
You need to do a video of all the major rivers and mountains in middle-earth
@phillipmargrave
@phillipmargrave 3 жыл бұрын
The most important event at weathertop was the escape of Frodo with the one ring from the nazgul
@mattbryant4910
@mattbryant4910 3 жыл бұрын
great video, good choice of art work
@stevedenis8292
@stevedenis8292 2 жыл бұрын
I have a hill top on my property that has a lot of exposed rocks very loosely looking like an old fallen fortress. I walk my dog Strider up there twice a day for exercise and other dog related reasons . I have named it Weather Top.
@michaelmacon65
@michaelmacon65 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Could we get one that dives into the history of the Palantir and what happened to all of them?
@GlorfindelofGondolin
@GlorfindelofGondolin 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video.
@nicholasmartin787
@nicholasmartin787 Жыл бұрын
I like to think of it a bit like a rally point and refuge for the Dunedain Rangers of the North. Aragorn is clearly familiar with it and knows it to be a good vantage point, and with its central location it makes sense, obviously they had and used Bree as well. After the war of the ring it was probably used as a base for the Dunedain Rangers, possibly gifted to them in honour of halbarad.
@istari0
@istari0 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say the most important event was that it was the location from where the armies of Elendil and Gil-galad began their long march to fight the armies of Sauron in the War of the Last Alliance.
@Hunter-cf6tk
@Hunter-cf6tk 3 жыл бұрын
The dislike is from the Witch King
@lopirobinson1991
@lopirobinson1991 3 жыл бұрын
I like to think that all these locations took on great historical relevance as places the one who helped destroy the ring visited. Cause as we know Frodo took on a task more important and perilous than all others of the time. One so small undertook a task larger than kings.
@loganestrada2311
@loganestrada2311 3 жыл бұрын
The most important moment of Weather Top would have to be it's creation. Nothing else could happen if it wasn't there already.
@bendakstarkiller1270
@bendakstarkiller1270 3 жыл бұрын
Both Gandalf's and Frodo's skirmish with the Nine were most important. Without the Mithrandir they wouldn't pass through Moria and if the Witch-King acquired the Ring from Frodo it would have been game over.
@jamiegregg9211
@jamiegregg9211 3 жыл бұрын
cool video James I think its actually two events one when Elendil was waiting for Gil - Galad and the second is when it fell to the Witch King
@wagon9082
@wagon9082 3 жыл бұрын
Good video
@HeliRy
@HeliRy 3 жыл бұрын
One question has always nagged at me. If it were so simple for a Wraith to turn others into Wraiths by merely poking them with their blade… why aren’t there more of them? After all these millennia there are still just nine. No doubt that Frodo is not the first one to be saved from this fate by Elrond. But not all who were wounded by a Wraith would have had such good fortune. Safe to assume many would have been put out of their misery before the change was complete. But not all. And it begs the question, why not just have them create an entire army of Wraiths? Send the nine into some hapless village and _poke poke poke poke poke poke_ and just wait. Couple days later, presto… an army of Wraiths!
@davidflynn1894
@davidflynn1894 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they wouldn’t be the same as the nine and would be useless
@chrissibersky4617
@chrissibersky4617 3 жыл бұрын
Peter Jackson missed a great opportunity when he didn't have Tom Bombadill come marching up that hill in his yellow boots singing his idiotic songs and chase away the ghosts when they attacked Frodo. He should have made Tom Bombadill the tenth companion and made him throw the ring into the fire at the end.
@remylouvard
@remylouvard 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a video on the Variags? I've heard that name multiple times and I still don't really know what they are.
@jacobmartinez3061
@jacobmartinez3061 3 жыл бұрын
Wish you had a podcast so I can listen at work
@steve54
@steve54 3 жыл бұрын
I think the important part of Weatherop is the apparent link to the Witch King. I wander if the magic of the area gave him extra strength, because, he had ceased to be mortal long ago. In this world, ghost seem to haunt the place they died in. It is the last memory they had, therefore it lends them strength. Maybe that is why it was the meeting place for the Nine to reclaim the One. What do you think?
@Divine_Chareka
@Divine_Chareka 3 жыл бұрын
I need a video about Osgiliath
@otaku-sempai2197
@otaku-sempai2197 3 жыл бұрын
Your video brings up an interesting question: Why would the "chief palantir of the North" have been housed in a distant fortress in the Weather Hills as opposed to at Annuminas (and later Fornost)?
@florianbarkowski6856
@florianbarkowski6856 3 жыл бұрын
Quite frankly I think because, it was the centre of the kingdom. This can also be seen when it was the point, where the three petty kingdoms meet.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
Weathertop seems to be in the center of the kingdom. When the kingdom was divided, they divided it with that understanding, giving all three divided kingdoms a right to claim it.
@robertdendooven7258
@robertdendooven7258 3 жыл бұрын
That is the exact question I have. A watchtower in the middle of your Kingdom? Why was it built by Elendil in the first place? Also, if the armies of Elendil and Gil-Galad stopped in Rivendell to create armaments, why not just stay in your own lands until just before all the weapons are finished being made? It would have been better if Tolkien had said they stopped at Rivendell to train and send messengers out to all the peoples/races that made up the Last Alliance. I wonder if Tolkien had ever considered giving the War of the Last Alliance more detailed timeline instead of just the very important events. I have always wondered how Anarion held off Sauron for a few years before his Father, Brother, and Gil-Galad showed up?
@otaku-sempai2197
@otaku-sempai2197 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertdendooven7258 I've never questioned the presence of a watchtower on Weathertop; it is a strategic position overlooking the Great East Road. I don't even question why a palantir was kept there. I just don't understand why it would have been the chief palantir of the North instead of another.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
@@otaku-sempai2197 The only hint we have about why the chief stone was placed there is that Elendil himself placed it there at the beginning of the kingdom. Logically, HE should have possessed the chief Palantir. But then again, the chief stone for Gondor was in Osgiliath, not Minas Anor/Tirith. Maybe the Lieutenant of Elendil's forces and a garrison were stationed there. It does offer visibility for miles east and west.
@stephenknizek2651
@stephenknizek2651 3 жыл бұрын
I'm apparently already subscribed to the Tabletop Alliance. XD
@johnc2631
@johnc2631 3 жыл бұрын
So where did weathertop’s palantir eventually end up?
@mctasty6094
@mctasty6094 3 жыл бұрын
Hello my Hobbity friends
@philomathist6899
@philomathist6899 2 жыл бұрын
Likely the most important event on weathertop was its building or its later fortification. Without those events all later events would become irrelevant.
@kimopuppy
@kimopuppy 3 жыл бұрын
I think Aragon had lots of other issues to worry about than fixing up a far distant Weathertop
@sweeperboy
@sweeperboy 3 жыл бұрын
And the other thing would be, who would he be building it to protect against? After the defeat of Sauron and the Nazgul, the enemies of Gondor were probably the remnants of the Dunlendings, and of course the Men of the East. I'm not sure that justifies the expense of restoring Amon Sul.
@Chris-gw4jg
@Chris-gw4jg 3 жыл бұрын
Something important WOULD have happened if the witch king hadn’t been so slow on reaching out to take the ring
@johnmacleod9495
@johnmacleod9495 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta be poor Frodo getting shanked I feel for him I also have the Golum curse.
@seanpoore2428
@seanpoore2428 3 жыл бұрын
like now will watch later commenting to feed hungry algorithm because your channel is excellent
@TheBrokenSword
@TheBrokenSword 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much 😊
@tscarb
@tscarb 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember what happened to the Palantir at Fornost? Did Aragorn ever restore Fornost?
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
I think Elessar was in Fornost when he declared himself King of Arnor. There has to be something left of Fornost.
@leonardofaber5823
@leonardofaber5823 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing is written about this. However, Aragorn ruled the entire kingdom from Minas Tirith, so it's almost safe to say he never rebuilt Fornost to the point of being a "throne place". But he built a new city there so Men could live in it. And there was never a palantir in Fornost.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonardofaber5823 There WAS a Palantir in Fornost Erain. When Amon Sul was being destroyed, the Palantir was brought back to Fornost, not to Annuminas.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
Three Palantiri were supposed to have been in Arnor. One was upon Amon Sul. The other two probably were in Mithlond and Fornost Erain. What happened to all of them?
@tscarb
@tscarb 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enerdhil I remember this as well
@trexoxford9149
@trexoxford9149 3 жыл бұрын
Since I've found this channel about 3 weeks ago I've been binge watching during my free time. I subscribed because the content is so good, at this point I no longer bother to watch videos before liking, I go to click like right off the back because there isn't one video I've watched that I do not like ! Keep up the good work guys, I'm loving this channel ! 👏 🙌 😀
@jimbombadill
@jimbombadill 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about inacurate picture chosen for video of what happend when the ringwraiths attacked Aragorn and the hobbits 😋.
@roguevoleur6411
@roguevoleur6411 3 жыл бұрын
Intro Song name ?
@caseybranton812
@caseybranton812 2 жыл бұрын
It was from getting stabbed by the witch king
@GreenAshR47
@GreenAshR47 2 жыл бұрын
0:36 LYING at its southern end, not 'laying'! Why can't ANYBODY get that right?
@KillerwinsGaming
@KillerwinsGaming 3 жыл бұрын
too much effect on strider but solid video
@dancooke8811
@dancooke8811 2 жыл бұрын
7 Palantiri
@NgocNguyen-pm6xf
@NgocNguyen-pm6xf Ай бұрын
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@michaels7325
@michaels7325 3 жыл бұрын
That's a kewl map
@markakin3742
@markakin3742 3 жыл бұрын
spelling is important
@michaels7325
@michaels7325 3 жыл бұрын
@@markakin3742 Agreed, however I would argue it is even more important to identify when words are intentionally misspelled in a facetious manner.
@mrcyde
@mrcyde 3 жыл бұрын
👍😷
@morgoth173
@morgoth173 3 жыл бұрын
Video 34
@Nocholas
@Nocholas 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, can you please stop mislabelling your videos. There's no reason why this video should be in the RPG section or anything like that. Please label them appropriately, and it's better to be conservative in your consideration.
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