The Complete Newcomer Overhaul | Ascension Custom WoW

[@jinhye4]

I remember seeing this project a few years ago and it's crazy how much everything has improved. I'm gonna give it another try tomorrow!

[@julespetrikov]

I've been yelling at a certain company about the newcomer / returning player experience for a decade now. And here you are fixing that problem. Have my money. Really.

[@клоака]

That feeling when a private server delivers 228% more quiality than Blizzard does

[@joezar33]

For real, Blizzard is more suitable for causal player or the 1%er on social media skittles mafia nowadays. I miss when vanilla was for everyone hardcore fans and causals

[@ethanwright752]

these devs need to make their own game, id play it

[@saikyue4462]

@@joezar33 Vanilla was never for casuals, it was for no lifers cuz everything took months to do

[@onlywrongaexthetics6181]

🎉😂 your concept of "quality" need a overhaul. My bad lol

[@JohnSmith-qh4mi]

How does Blizzard allow this? Lol

[@Solereaper21]

The super tracker has easily been my favourite added feature

[@Theaimanifesto]

im a veteran and I couldnt agree more !

[@charli4815]

its been in retail wow a time now

[@LumanilTheMentor]

All thats left to do now is to keep the Hero Architect up-to-date, so new players know whats good right now, and not what was good 2 years ago :)

[@bchaozgamer4282]

I very much agree with this!

[@StaffanDeluxe]

F that. New players should learn to experiment on their own

[@LumanilTheMentor]

@@StaffanDeluxe Im all for it! but hero architect is a good way of inspiration.

[@Frostgnaw]

It blows my mind to think that someone sees Ascension and goes, "I've never played WoW, but this looks like the game for me." Like, that's crazy. Ascension is probably the most complicated private server I've ever played on and I didn't understand it until after reaching max level; and I had friends to help me along the way

[@TB-tv2zf]

Hence the overhaul

[@Frostgnaw]

@@TB-tv2zf I more so meant to say who doesn't play the original game first before playing a controversial version of it? I would never think to play Mass Effect 2 or 3 before playing ME1, you know?

[@TiPeteux]

what's hard ? The custom class ?

[@Frostgnaw]

@@TiPeteux just understanding everything. I didn't realize mythic/legendary enchants were the core of Ascension. Prestiging is also a large part of Ascension as it gives you new opportunities to make a better build and get rewards. You learn it over time, but it's not apparent right at the start.

[@TiPeteux]

@@Frostgnaw Interesting! Next time i have a urge to play WoW i think i will try ascension!

[@nowayg5666]

Yoo you fix media error good job

[@ascensiongg]

thanks king

[@Jura740]

Awesome i really never played wow before but started on Ascension 3 days ago maybe my build is crap but i have fun all the time ❤

[@ArielAriaVT]

Are there possibilities of more archtypes in the future? As someone who isn't super great at theorycrafting but still like a little tweaking here and there, I'd love to see more of this sort of stuff. CoA is amazing with its custom classes, but archtypes could get me back into regular Ascension for sure!

[@ascensiongg]

There absolutely is. In fact, there's a competition going on now to get some more role-specific builds from the community.

[@travismueller8282]

I feel like the natural evolution of this is calling on people to create hero builder builds that straight up have free points, so like if you want to play a build but have a pet, there will be points available for that.

[@ArielAriaVT]

@@ascensiongg that is so amazing! Love the content and community, and even as a retail player I’ll always have room for Ascension and CoA thanks to the constant engagement and updates!

[@ArielAriaVT]

@@travismueller8282 Good point! Might be a good way for someone like myself who isn’t great at theorycrafting to get more of a feel for it for sure. The addition of pet talents getting a free base pet is certainly also great.

[@Blobby90]

Brilliant ideas there, absolutely

[@Aldever13]

Started playing about a month ago, loving it, well done 👍🏻

[@Vin0Monster]

Can't wait for the 9 Original Classes realm! ♥

[@Kromush1995]

The difference in making a game for MAUs vs making a game for gamers. Thank you Ascension team!

[@Backsteyn]

Thanks a lot for the changes, ill try it right away!

[@ryanjanson1202]

I'm glad that Ascension finally acknowledges my massive sack.

[@Skulk93]

this looks really good!

[@ryshazeux4099]

All around great changes, I do have a few questions, though. 1. When do you get instructed to go to the Compendium? 2. When you mentioned flight masters at the starting zones going to the next town, there's a few places like Sen'jin Village that have quests as well. Are they included? (By this I mean do they have a Flight path that would, for example, connect to razor hill in my example.) 3. Will we be able to filter mentors based on the language the mentor speaks? Not all mentors speak English, or the language a new player speaks, will this be a feature? 4. A lot of players dungeon grind, I think that a new player dungeon that brings Mentors in would be a good idea that brings those two parts of the community together. Are there plans for this in the future? 5. Will there be a "Difficulty" indicator for each of the preselected builds at character creation?

[@ascensiongg]

Great questions: 1. The Compendium pops up at level 5, drawing your attention to it 2. The flight path isn't an official one, so you can't go to places like Sen'jen. Instead it takes you to the next big quest hub like Goldshire, Razor Hill, or Brill. One of the things that analysis revealed was a LOT of new players getting lost and quitting once they finished quests and never making it to the next zone. This helps get you straight to your next place to quest. 3. This is a great idea. An option like this isn't in yet, but is worth trying to make happen. 4. No plans for something like this at the moment 5. This is another good idea and is worth trying to make happen.

[@ascensiongg]

3. and 5. added to the to-do list

[@ryshazeux4099]

@@ascensiongg Thank you for the answers, I hope you and the team are doing well.

[@fischpalast4196]

could you guys bring it on mac, plz

[@ascensiongg]

You can play on mac with a windows emulator!!

[@fischpalast4196]

@@ascensiongg idk how

[@jcmangel]

Great updates! I've already sent it to my friends to come and join Ascension! My only problem is with these, you are heading to the same direction as retail. By adding way to brainlessly walk around and spam quests and fly point to point you take the joy out from the game moth people joined for back in the days. I know 99% of the community are veterans in wow, but if you'd like to have new players coming it, design an experience that catches players. You could also implement some features for new players to feel the immersion of the world. Also please don't forget that difficulty makes games more rewarding. New players need community (not LF MS spamming in chat), a good adventure and fun. As for new players, i think these featues would help them a lot (only to very new players): 1. I think if they would remove ascension chat by default and enable it at lvl 20 or 30 for instance, it wont make your chat so bad when you join 2. Maybe you could mark new players (like driving school students) so people will be more helpful towards them 3.On elune, it would be nice if they could choose their very first spell on fresh character. Two of my friends quit there because they had no idea what was happening and what they got. I think if youd choose your attribute first then based on that youd get to choose from 4-5 starting spells based on that, it would help them a lot. 4. If you could implement number 1 then maybe it would be useful to have AN ACTUAL NEWCOMER CHAT, where mentors would be in and seperate new to wow and new to ascension players. I know this is not an option right now in general in wow, but would be nice. Right now newcomer chat has nothing to do with newcomers in general (based on what i see). Ofc this would make it include less players but more actual answer and genuine help. You are doing fantastic though! Keep it up! :)

[@nizelike]

Vid calls out that archetypes is only available on a52. What's the plan for archetype on Elune? If anything Elune needs archetype more.

[@ascensiongg]

Since Elune is Wildcard, starting as a pre-designed archetype is counter to the game mode. HOWEVER: you WILL be able to put Archetype builds into Rapid Rolling to search for abilities you need to play the build! This will help you build archetypes.

[@Hornsifter]

6:40 PLEASE, I NEED IT FOR MY HOARDING NEEEEEEEEDSSSS

[@Druidean]

Hi Ascension, the new player Path of Ascension is amazing! I would like you to look into the bug of learning and doing something before unlocking the step in the Path. I logged into my level 17 character and I cannot complete the 'level 10' and 'reroll your first abomility after reaching level 10' steps. I love all the work you do, keep up the amazing work ❤

[@ascensiongg]

Hey!! Will look into this.

[@goblinounours]

First time hearing about Ascension. I would never play this because I have the normal game, and I don't know if it's an actual thing going to Northshire and seeing all those players with epic weapons, metamorphosis forms, weird NPCs that stand out (like the dwarf on his pedestal) and spamming the level-up effect. Feels wrong. BUT fair is fair, the Compendium UI looks dope and it's a shame Blizzard doesn't have something similar. Similarly, WoW's tutorial zones outside of Exile's Reach suck and new players constantly get confused as to where to go once they reach Orgrimmar/Stormwind, because you still have all the intro quests of previous expansions available... So I guess, good on you if your NPE is better.

[@codybroome9520]

this is really cool guys! this was a big pain point even as a veteran player! ascension is more fun with friends!

[@XLionGuardX]

Alright... Alright... I'll try ascension again!

[@Ticklemetwink]

Any chance of new races or customizations?

[@ascensiongg]

can't say at this time ;)

[@Ticklemetwink]

@@ascensiongg you tease, been waiting for an update to come back gaaah

[@leespiderpod]

I’m on TWOW but might try this one day

[@pawballer1964]

I saw something about a realm with 9 classic classes but with custom things. Is this already live?

[@arturstypukowski1279]

Never played ascension but this looks great and UI plus video quality are off the charts! Are there any ascension servers without custom classes but just with added content?

[@ascensiongg]

There will be! Bronzebeard will be a realm for the original 9 classes with all of Ascension's custom content.

[@arturstypukowski1279]

@@ascensiongg awesome, thanks!

[@ethanwright752]

I'm new to the game not ashamed to admit I needed help with the controls like this video shows. These are solid qol improvements to help us new players find a way into a classic game we missed before. The sad state of AAAA gaming is pushing a lot of people to find alternative paths to escapism and am excited to try out the new season.

[@hodoros7255]

What prevents this from getting shut down? Hard to invest in something that could disappear tomorrow

[@Jess-391]

There probably is nothing. The whole reason official servers for vanilla because a thing was after one or two huge private servers were legally taken down. There was a petition and that's why we have official. So really who knows when they will go after this one now that it's getting so big.

[@ascensiongg]

Hey! The game has been live since 2016 and won't go anywhere

[@pure9933]

Okay im coming back to the game

[@toptimmah903]

Is there option to have non-scaling mob levels without going hardcore?

[@derkaman123123]

okay how about we balance more often so one or two builds arent the only viable builds for m+ or raid all season long! :D

[@SurfingJakeOwns]

how does it work, can you use any spell in the game? is there only 1 or 2 specs for pve? what about pvp

[@tylorrko]

Hell yeah!

[@nowayg5666]

It would be nice to have super tracker for bosses in manastorm

[@mattifreshfan9111]

well done🎉

[@Zordiak]

It would be really cool if we could play with classic models and animations too. Any chance we could that added?

[@ascensiongg]

You can set this at install! Choose between modern or classic models.

[@mercs7849]

Please give me an ability to make my Adventure Mode HARDER as I progress. PLEASE. I am doing it with Resolutes and "just starting over" is a punch in the gut. Also, it would be nice to bring Tinker themed stuff to other servers through several separate talents, skills and enchants.

[@ascensiongg]

Hey! Have you tried NIGHTMARE mode??

[@domin7289]

Wow this is really good work, I've been following the server for about a year now and I'm really surprised at the speed at which you release updates. One of the reasons I stopped playing was the difficult builds, but now I'm ready to try again 😤. Also would like to have the option to translate to Ukrainian/Russian.

[@ascensiongg]

Translation options in development!

[@GrimPointman]

Still confused where to go when i hit 20 😅 maybe i will try to seek help in game

[@philophobic8023]

can we also get a fix on the launcher going blank xd? (some kind of refresh button for the elements would be more than enough)

[@oskartu12]

When is it comming? I wanna try ascension again for sure:D

[@ascensiongg]

It's out now!!

[@dragonriderabens9761]

Alec’s replacement system doesn’t appear to be working because I’m missing stuff that should have been sent to me

[@ruskyalmond1977]

Are all these servers live yet?

[@SurfingJakeOwns]

what are the server locations? would i lag from australia oceaia

[@KevinG9012]

How is ascension? Better than classic wow or classic cata?

[@tooslick5198]

Just logged in after a few year and all my vanity items and old characters are gone, including my access to CoA. All the money I put in is down the drain wasted. Why should anyone come back after getting this treatment?

[@ShamankingZuty]

Contact Ascension, they get back to you real quick with any of these issues.

[@ascensiongg]

Hey! Message Dutch001 on Discord and we'll sort this out together.

[@frankt9156]

How they avoid Blizzard shut them down?

[@Aoni-gb8uh]

Amazing

[@notniceguy]

not to mention the fact the community can be a bit..rough on this server, so that doesn't help new player retention either

[@TheBovineBaron]

are the archetypes only area 52? for some reason I thought they were also gonna be in the Elune server too so if I am wrong someone please let me know if there only area 52

[@ascensiongg]

Hey! Since Elune is Wildcard, pre-designed archetypes don't make sense there for starting the game. However, you WILL be able to drop Build Links into the Rapid Rolling system to search for specific spells and talents you need!!

[@meurumtrain4747]

I really want a seasonal free pick realm as

[@themercenary6580]

So when is all this coming out??

[@ascensiongg]

Dawg, it is OUT RIGHT NOW!!!!

[@toptimmah903]

Retail, 3.3.5a. Or it is Lich King+??

[@AsanellaHD]

Elune and Area 52 is TBC, but LK is gonna be too

[@Dwayneff]

8 years, and you're still stuck in TBC...

[@jesusmloralopez1970]

This have now barely the more likes than many things of retail xD

[@Witchyfoxboy]

adding things for new players? blizzard could never

[@cenktuneygok8986]

I feel like Ascension is created by the devs separated from Molten.

[@cypherpunk6417]

Is this live right now?

[@kalablane8592]

yes

[@ascensiongg]

Yep!

[@Lv80WoWmage]

Been a WoW fan for years, and always wanted to try Ascension, but was concern my account in WoW would be banned.

[@ascensiongg]

Not a risk, just use a different email/account/password when you make an ascension account!

[@Lv80WoWmage]

@@ascensiongg Thank You

[@nikroth]

Top top !

[@colinpytlewski1935]

Mounted pvp combat would be fun

[@willhem5668]

why lol I mean it would but very hard to balance, Knight of Xoroth class in Conquest of Azeroth kinda plays like that though

[@shadoworman1]

​@@willhem5668 WOTLK had mounted tournament combat, quests, a zone, AND a dungeon mechanic specifically around mounted combat. It's jank and was jank at the time but it's established at least in the game. I don't think a class that has those as mechanics are doable, but more minigames / a manastorm / the argent tournament once WOTLK is rolled in would be pretty cool.

[@FisosTheLegend]

thats me with build system

[@MyndZero]

it'll never happen but man SEA servers (singapore?) like turtle wow would be so good for some of us that are forced to play on like 300 ping lol.

[@Dot_Skeith]

some great some not. Look forward to the OG classes in the new server then I may comeback

[@Gwenhwyvar1992]

Tbh, Ascension even with all these QoL improvements is still hard to understand and confusing. There are archetypes on Ares-52 so basicaly all You need to think about is gear, thats cool. But if anyone want to start playing on Elune, well...they stop, just as I did. All these weird currencies, NPCs, mythic orbs, scrolls, fragments and who know what's more mothical, my build was always like a sh1t. All I could do is spamming dungeons and hearing from time to time how useless I am with my skill combination, but with no scrolls to reroll and the actual reroll being MEGA unlucky You just feel down and stop playing, on Elune at least. Tutorial should be much more intuitive, clear, complete-noob friendly. Also I'm sorry, english is not the language I speak to I su*k with it a bit, I hope it's all clear. 😅

[@mattheModest]

Why was this taken down?

[@ascensiongg]

Had a render error lol. Big red screen from missing media >_> Fixed and is now back up!!

[@scottbyers9258]

Get rid of RNG talents on the seasonal server. I'd really like to play again but it's just too much with random spells AND talents.

[@zxkredo]

You didnt ask me :O

[@ascensiongg]

bro we're asking you right now

[@dibtumadre]

so a private server is doing more than blizzard on being more accesible to new players xd

[@notafortnitegamer]

A lot of cool ideas present, but for me its just too different from Classic Wow

[@yourdailycutes]

Just one problem, kinna a laggy for me

[@ethanwright752]

what region and connection type? ive had pretty solid experience so far but with fiber central US

[@yourdailycutes]

@@ethanwright752 I'm on asia

[@evolgenius1150]

Ye olden times 😂

[@FlamespeedyAMV]

Random fans putting trillion dollar corps to shame

[@Deathrydar]

Is this pve?

[@petermoore-m6s]

I don't play games where you lose your character every season seems pointless

[@Manoplays62]

no pierdes nada

[@petermoore-m6s]

@@Manoplays62 English?

[@leegoldr]

you should really be working on weeding out the toxic player. the one who follow new player and and ks there mob. or the one who spam the N word and other nasty stuff at you none stop

[@jozseftott3352]

Lol i quit the game but noone asked me why... ?

[@ascensiongg]

Why did you quit the game?

[@NurDerEffzeh1948]

@@ascensionggyoure asking the good questions!

[@jozseftott3352]

I quit cause the endgame progression was too slow, and in the endgame there is not too much options for builds choices.

[@maggyinahat]

The voice over pronouncing Archetype as "ark - type" 300 times made this ROUGH to listen to

[@Ludacrisgaronio]

I just dont understand endgame and endgame equip, shouild i equip with mythic plus ? In lfg they search only ppl with 40k dps wtf?