The Completely Incomplete Tanzbar 2 tutorial?

[@noobslayerr9732]

The king box for minimal techno and microhouse

[@TURBOGABBA]

Alright this is it. I will never read that cursed manual again (and I'm german). This video is a game changer!

[@tjs6025]

It's hilariously bad. Like why even bother bad.

[@vanwelderengang]

Thanks for the great teachings! Helped me a lot❤

[@oyoyoyo7624]

I’m just getting hip to mfb this month. So many of your vids have had such a positive influence on my studio. Thank you, Cave Way

[@girlinagale]

Editing bass synth notes timbre by holding InstrSel and pressing steps is a game changer. Thanks.

[@CaveWay]

Nice 🤙

[@phopho1485]

It really sounds beautiful...i need that machine !!!!!!

[@Sequentialski]

Sold the TB2 2 years ago due to not understanding it based on the manual. Bought it again after your video. :-)

[@CaveWay]

Awesome. Hopefully my ramblings are somewhat helpful!

[@oliviermissal8739]

Keep coming back to this video!!! So helpful 🙌🏻

[@mauve7609]

I returned my tb2 because I couldn't really wrap my head around it. I got a TB1 now, but damn you made me really consider buying tb2 again, it just sounds so good

[@CaveWay]

Never used a TB1 but it sounds killer from what I’ve heard on KZbin and various SoundClouds…

[@mauve7609]

@@CaveWay Yeah man it's awesome. Are there any for sale where you live? I'm in Belgium (EU) and there are zero listings, they're only gonna get more rare considering Manfred Fricke just recently passed away (he made all of the MFB synths himself). I might sell mine for 7K in a few years lol

[@CaveWay]

@@mauve7609 I’m in the suburbs of Ohio with 0 music stores in the area. Usually if I want something unique I’m ordering from Thomann and praying they send a power adapter I can use. Reverb .com also seems to be dry for tb2s…

[@Slownoisedubs]

The sweetest sounding drum machine ever! Thank you.

[@jjgabbana]

Can't believe ur really gonna make me buy ANOTHER DM ..... But I just love watching u perform with this thing

[@CaveWay]

Thanks! Join the club! One of us. One of us!

[@cls6200]

Nice! I just bought a TB2 last night so this is going to be super helpful. Appreciate it!

[@CaveWay]

Nice. Good timing 🤙

[@Metentis]

Recently picked one up. Updated to 1.08. Knew instantly that this was a sound module only and I'd only be hurting myself even attempting to use it's sequencer. Love MFB gear. Have 4 other synths of his gear, but god damned did Manfred have a very opinionated method of how things should work.

[@Kung_Fu_Jesus]

Great video. I keep on seeing your vids and think I could squeeze a Tanzbar 2 in my set up but having a Tempest makes me hold back. It does have a lovely sound though. The techno timing thing you were talking about is called polymetric patterns, not to be confused with polyrhythmic. Polymetric is keeping a 4/4 beat going with a different length pattern on top played playing the same subdivisions with one of the instruments. Polyrhythmic patterns are where two rhythms are played on top of each other without being tied to subdivisions.

[@CaveWay]

Thanks! I’ve similarly always wanted to squeeze a tempest into my setup. Maybe there will be a new Dave Smith/Sequential offering soon.... RE: polymeter vs polyrhythm - interesting topic, and one I enjoy discussing! There must be different definitions depending on what side of the Atlantic you live on. I would challenge your definition and define polyrhythm as what you hear and polymeter as how you *could* write it down in notation if you wanted to.... The polyrhythm 3:2 fits within a 4/4 bar but I would argue it’s a polyrhythm because you are hearing a group of 3 over a group of 2. Out of curiosity where did you learn to define polyrhythm/polymeter?

[@Kung_Fu_Jesus]

@@CaveWay I agree the 3:2 over 4:4 is a polyrhythmic as you’re adding two different feels together over a specific meter. The polymetric stuff is where you’d stick for example a 5/16 pattern over a 4:4 beat so that it comes round every 5 beats and keeps rolling. That’s my understanding of it and how I learned it from my drum tutors. Polyrhythms are really prominent in African drumming but polymetric aren’t. On a more nuanced thing the 3:2 is also a polymetric but has the feel of a polyrhythm as it weaves easily in to a 4:4 feel or 6:8. Whatever, it doesn’t really matter just as ling as they drop you in to a good dance. Re: the Tempest, I use it a lot in my stuff. Have a look at some of my stuff on the link below. 6:38 is all Temoest except the drones. soundcloud.app.goo.gl/asNa9QAkt13Hro3i6 Let me know what you think mate.

[@CaveWay]

@@Kung_Fu_Jesus I hear you on the polyrhythms/polymeters 🤙. Sometimes when I’m listening to Ghanaian rhythm I can’t find the downbeat 😂. Same with Indians ragas -some of those tabla players have an insane concept of the beat and the subdivisions within the beats. Also I checked out your SoundCloud. Very cool, Unique sound and great production 🙌 bravo

[@Kung_Fu_Jesus]

@@CaveWay eastern music has always been and will always be way further ahead of our western music but we can but learn. Sadly there’s always that niggling thing called ‘making money’ that makes us push towards something more easy on the ear. In the east it’s all a meditation on music with little or no financial gain, it’s just a big exploration for them. I try my best to be as original as I can. I build sounds from the ground up and never sample other peeps, it means everything I do has my own imprint on it. Thanks for the feedback, one day I’ll set up a YT channel but just looking forward to getting out playing again. Keep those videos coming though, their all great dude.

[@whateverthehorror]

dude I literally bought a Tanzbär 2 last week, mainly due to your videos

[@CaveWay]

That’s awesome. What do you think so far?

[@whateverthehorror]

@@CaveWay Incredible sound all around. Firmware was a bit confusing at first but I'm getting used to it, this video is more than welcome though

[@SuperAcademie]

wow thanks man! just what I needed!! best tutorial on tanzbar!

[@tjs6025]

Great video!! You've helped me get my first few patterns down. This is required viewing if you're new to the TB2. Here's hoping we get a part 2!

[@mehulshukla04]

Thank you so much for this, you've already helped me out loads in previous replies on your other videos. I'm learning to use it in my own way but learnt so much from this video that I didn't know. One thing I wish it had was the ability to play and hear all the notes of the synth like a keyboard. They play only in step mode which is frustrating which means the synth cannot be used standalone to pick specific notes.

[@girlinagale]

Thanks Cave Man really appreciate the Tanzbär 2 insight, wonderful machine.

[@oele]

nice tutorial! going to look into this mashine

[@CaveWay]

Thanks it’s awesome

[@Readchendreher]

Awsome machine, awsome performer. Thank you. :)

[@5v3n]

Best Tanzbär 2 Tutorial So Far

[@exteriorsigns]

Such a satisfying sound.

[@CaveWay]

Did you end up getting one? And I agree such a round sound. Love it.

[@exteriorsigns]

@@CaveWay It's my next purchase. Thanks for the video. I'll be coming back for your guidance once I receive my MFB. ; )

[@phrao12]

Thank you very much! Perhaps an alpha base one sometime in the future? :)

[@CaveWay]

I need some more time with the AB. 😀 Working on a follow up using the TB2 midi track to control various instruments

[@oliviermissal8739]

Now that the circuit tracks is out this wil be perfect to sequence the synth and route back into circuit to put delay and reverb on it!! I think this combo is a winner!!

[@mrnewjackson]

Brilliant video, thanks. Anyone else out there having issues with getting Knob Record to work? I go through the same button combos as this video and none of a my knob movements are recorded once the red light turns static

[@CaveWay]

Try changing recording mode - shift+man/step

[@mrnewjackson]

@@CaveWay Thanks man. I can get it to work on some channels and not on others. Not going to lie, this machine has soooo many bugs. The knobs pick and choose when to react to changes, fluctuations in the lfo rates or waveforms of the voices, the list is endless. Any idea of a workaround for updating the firmware without a PC or Mac running older than OSX catalina. I'm running in 1.07 but hoping 1.08 saves this brilliant sounding machine

[@pk9mmpara]

Sorry can you explain how it works to organiset the sample softwear for the Tanzbäre it will be realy great many thanks and happy christmas .stay healthy

[@CaveWay]

It should be as easy as downloading the MFB software, hooking up a midi interface to your computer, and sending samples to the TB2. I’ll add to the next vid.

[@girlinagale]

I've made a Tanzbär 2 Users Group on Facebook, brand new today so no members but could be useful to share details about the enigmatic workflow.

[@CaveWay]

Great idea

[@lewis9898]

Hold holds the envelope open before the decay kicks in. So with hold at zero the drum gets triggered and then the decay kicks in but if it’s a bigger value the sample fires at full volume for the hold period then starts decaying

[@CaveWay]

Perfect. Thanks!

[@teddyjones3652]

Thanks so much

[@ceoaicryptoart5021]

your tutorial has made me buy one it arrived today

[@CaveWay]

Awesome. What’s your initial thoughts?

[@ceoaicryptoart5021]

@@CaveWay after intensive testing i encountered some bugs actually. Thats why i am sending it back. Accent knob is on by default on startup, knob recording sometimes disables the analog section, synth accent cannot be applied etc etc....if no bugs were there i had probably kept it

[@CaveWay]

Yikes

[@shike00]

Excellent stuff!

[@oliviermissal8739]

just what i needed !!! thanks man !!!!!

[@devwxyz]

perfect timing. ty so much!

[@CaveWay]

No problem 🤙

[@oscarlanda851]

Hold is basically sustain, which differs from decay as the stage after in the envelope of a sound.

[@CaveWay]

Thanks 🙌

[@josemarquez950]

Hi! Our unit arrives today. I have looked for advice on a US power adapter and not found anything reliable. Would you mind sharing what you’re using? Thank you!

[@CaveWay]

Mine came with a power supply and the plug had various country appropriate prongs to attach. The machine end is a mini USB - the trapezoid (I think that’s the right shape) looking one...

[@josemarquez950]

@@CaveWay thank you very much! i will be spending quality hours with your videos in the coming weeks!

[@mathiasberthold1223]

Awesome!

[@stefanmariaschneider]

Hey man, thanks for your great videos!! I just got a TB2 and just like someone else said, I don't seem to be able to adjust the tune or pitch of individual steps (with Kick 1 for instance, as you did in the video). Even if only one step is selected/blinking, the changes affect the whole instrument. I have Firmware 1.07. Any pointers?

[@CaveWay]

Hey thanks! I would try changing the mode it’s in. Shift + man/step button. Change the mode and then try again.

[@DayflightTrok]

Tanzbär 2 comparison with Alpha Base?

[@cs7160]

What's the learning curve on this like? Hesitating between this and an elektron machinedrum. Most important to me are quality of drum sounds, immediacy and step automation. Not bothered about synth sounds, midi sequencing or even kit/project structure as I have other stuff for that.

[@CaveWay]

I had a Tanzmaus before this so some of the ideas carried over. With that being said there is a learning curve - but if you put in time it’s not insurmountable.... I don’t know the machine drum but I found the Elektron Octatrack way too difficult to get consistent results. It’s not as immediate as a TR8s though....

[@miloshxavid]

Hi good video thanks! Do you know how to set a incoming midi clock signal to a lower rate?

[@CaveWay]

I’m not aware of a way to do that within the machine. If you’re cutting the bpm in half then you can get there with step programming otherwise you’ll need a separate piece of hardware.

[@miloshxavid]

@@CaveWay sorry me again. do you know how to make the sequence follow to the next Bar lets say if you make a 32step sequence? i undestand how to listen to 2 Bars but its kind of odd to program if it doesn't follow... thanks :)

[@CaveWay]

Not sure I understand the question - Do you mean how to chain patterns?

[@miloshxavid]

@@CaveWay no, i mean the pattern itself, the red light that is goning isn‘t following to the next bar (loops first 16steps) lets say you have a 2Bar loop it would be easier also changing a programed sound i have to to this for each bar individually… but still sounds great :)

[@molnoob3451]

Yeah man I get that knob recording bug too. I'm going to email them about it and will post here if they provide any info. Such a versatile machine, takes time to fully get a hang of.

[@CaveWay]

From the update notes - Looks like the newest OS fixes the knob recording bug. I need to find a way to test it out. And I agree definitely versatile drum machine

[@molnoob3451]

@@CaveWay Cool are you able to link me to that particular firmware update if you know where to download it? My machine says its on v1.07

[@CaveWay]

mfberlin.de/en/device/tanzbar-2/ the OS updates are at the bottom of the page

[@molnoob3451]

@@CaveWay cheers, just updated. Stuck in bootloader screen now lol. Emailed their support

[@CaveWay]

Oh damn. Hopefully you’re able to work it out

[@GeekGearSynths]

I don't have the TB2, but on other machines (JoMoX 999, Tempest) hold basically changes the AD envelope to an ASR envelope. Hold determines the sustain time at full level. Hold might include the attack time. So for the first tries choose a fast attack.

[@CaveWay]

Thanks! That makes sense and my personal mystery has been solved

[@romi2910001]

The tb2 Meticulously and completely absorbs whatever you put into it, unlike any other drum machine i've heard out there . That's what I like most about this machine

[@danielcurtis6216]

Thanks so much for this tutorial. I have owned and operated Roland 505,606,707,808,909, MPC 2000xl, MPC ONE, Elektron Machinedrum, Digitakt, Isla s2400, Korg ER-1,ADS-7 MK 2 so I like drum machines.. I find the Tanzbar 2 very inspirational. At 19:00 you note voice one sounding crunchy. I have had the same issue. It bugs me (sorry). What about the band pass filter? To me it seems half-baked. Have you had any luck chaining patterns? Thanks again

[@CaveWay]

Thanks for checking it out. Hopefully it was useful! I don’t use the BP filter much TBH as I much prefer a smooth LP. But I will occasionally try to work it in - mainly just to see if I can. As far as pattern chaining goes. I’ve tested it as someone hit me up on Reddit to see if it worked for me (and it did). I’ll see if I can do a part 2 and cover what I do for that and some other topics I missed in this and maybe it’ll be helpful.

[@PunchandJudyDuo]

Tommy likey, Tommy want wingy! FYI- Cave Way is also a master of acoustic drums, too!

[@CaveWay]

We should jam soon dude! I’m halfway to the hallpass

[@PunchandJudyDuo]

@@CaveWay It is so cool that you've essentially replaced the user manual with this impressive video- no small feat! Kudos! While much of Tanzbar is beyond our technical comprehension, we absolutely relate to the desire to share the love and awareness of cool synthesizer equipment with the world. You are an asset to the KZbin synth community and we're proud to call you a friend, both online and in the analog world. Jess & I are looking forward to collaborating with you again in new and familiar ways!

[@theuntouchables808]

Great vid man . Shame about the knob record Bug ... did there ever fix this ??? The hold will keep that sample paying for the sent amount of time then go thru the decay ... it's more noticeable if you have a looped sample not on a oneshot samples ... an FX section is really missing on this machine but then you always want more FX 4 imo is the bear minimum ... I'm on the market for yet another drum machine . I'm on the fence between the Tanzbar2 the Alpha and the RYTH . I've got a MPC Live for sequencing if needed as I heard the Alpha was bad ( but it can't be as bad as the original tanzbar )...

[@CaveWay]

As far as I know there is no fix for the knob recording. 😞 and That makes sense on the hold function, thanks! FX would be nice - right now I end up routing instruments separately and use a pedal or Logic plugin. I have both the TB2 and the AB. Love them both. Never played a Rytm though

[@theuntouchables808]

@@CaveWay THX . Would love to see a Vid like this for the Alpha .. Dose it do parameter lock ( or knob record ) or would I have to use the MPC for that ?

[@CaveWay]

AB does parameter locks buts it’s much more limited than the Tb2.

[@theuntouchables808]

@@CaveWay hummm ok and do you know if you could control all of it thru the MPC ???

[@CaveWay]

@@theuntouchables808 you can control midi cc’s through the MPC live no problem. The AB has pretty extensive midi mapping but it does eat up a lot of midi channels on the MPC live - 1 midi channel per instrument

[@matu1204]

You save my day

[@FabriceMillion]

dude 27:50! ffs you're the reason I got the tanzbar 2

[@CaveWay]

Awesome! Love the Tb2

[@cougarman8]

My knob recording has the exact same bug! I’m on 1.07

[@SeanSchermerhorn]

much respect & appreciation to you for taking the time to demystify this strange beast. Got mine in today, rather perplexed by the layout, feel like knobs on data 3 & 4 would’ve made a lot more sense and decay knobs seem randomly placed. Also, no chromatic built in tuning?! bummer. I’ll be using taking out my tuner as well. My screen has gone completely white/ lit up after restarting and I can’t read anything, contacted Thomann for that. And the screen and knobs seems to be the cheapest possible, another bummer. But after watching this vid again, I have hope... so thanks again, for that! Ps any link on your tunes! such a vibe!

[@CaveWay]

Thanks for checking it out. I hear you on the screen. Mine will occasionally decide to go dark and requires a tap to get it to light back up. Hopefully Thomann gets your replacement sorted soon!

[@SeanSchermerhorn]

@@CaveWay yeah for sure, might just return it and get the drm1, as I’m externally sequencing anyway, we’ll see... Got a link to your releases tho?

[@CaveWay]

@@SeanSchermerhorn nice - I haven’t used a DRM1 but from what I’ve heard it sounds good. I don’t have anything other then random KZbin vids I record. I’m working on an EP in Ableton so I don’t have to worry so much about arrangements live in 1 take but that’s a work in progress....

[@CaveWay]

@@SeanSchermerhorn soundcloud.app.goo.gl/ieHNx5cTVnEhn3KL7 finally uploaded something to SoundCloud. Working on putting some additional tracks out there. Currently 6 people have heard it 😂

[@SeanSchermerhorn]

@@CaveWay hell yea! but heyo link not working :/

[@therealhart]

Hi man, Nice tutorial 👌 I received my mfb like one week ago and I would rec in Ableton when I’m jaming but when I use external instrument Channel the sound is horrible and the latency is crazy. Do you know how Can I fix that please ? Cheers ☺️

[@CaveWay]

Hey thanks! Sync plagues me with all my drum machines and trying to get them in Ableton on the grid. Total ball ache. I’ve tried many different strategies but ended up settling on an ERM multiclock which so far 🤞is working. But it’s also too expensive and does 1 thing..... before that I would record and manually move everything. As far as the sound goes I’d trouble shoot with a different drum machine (if possible) to narrow down potential issues as it could be something easy like a cable or something complex ex: is it a TB2 issue? a sound card issue? interface issue? Cable issue? Etc....

[@therealhart]

Thanks for the reply, i tried some stuff this afternoon and it’s working, i didnt move my « 512 samples » parameter in Live, now it’s working!

[@CaveWay]

Awesome!

[@UberSynth]

Cool demo 😎 👌

[@bengoldberger1113]

Hello! Great video. I found a used TB2 but can’t access the MFB website. Do you know of another way to get the latest firmware and the app to load samples? I found a group on FB but nothing solid from them yet. Hopefully the site comes back. Thanks in advance!

[@CaveWay]

I would take the same route asking around either in FB or Gearspace - probably your best bet. I didn’t realize they discontinued the website….. Hail Mary attempt you could try their old support email - [e-mail]

[@bengoldberger1113]

@@CaveWay thanks for the email address. I sent them a message and posted on gearspace as well as a FB group. I also messaged Thomann. Fingers crossed.

[@CaveWay]

Nice. Do you have a Mac or PC? I probably have the Mac file somewhere on my laptop I can zip and send. If those don’t pan out.

[@bengoldberger1113]

@@CaveWay wow, that would be fantastic. I have a PC but I have friends with Macs.

[@CaveWay]

@@bengoldberger1113 it’s been so long forgot I had to use a msft surface to update…. Send a msg [e-mail] I’ll send the file

[@punkdiscoUK]

Really useful video. Anyone know if it is possible to copy just a step, with its param locks? I know how to copy a complete pattern or, just a single instrument pattern but, sometimes you have a single step that you just want to copy to another step, all with the same param locks.

[@CaveWay]

As far as I know it isn’t possible. But if anyone else has a workaround I’m all ears!

[@shufflephunk]

@@CaveWayon the Tanzmaus it worked like this: you select a step with values you want to copy so that the led blinks. Then press select again. All the new steps you fill in have the same settings(parameters and even sample selection, flam et all) Curious if it also works on this machine. I will get one too in the next weeks B-) I love the Tanzmaus but this is a better machine because it has more options to freak. Would you say there are a lot of other bugs, beside the knob record one? I surely hope not since there will never be any new update. Luckily the Tanzmaus is fully bug free

[@CaveWay]

@shufflephunk thanks! Unfortunately on mine a bunch of LEDS lit up this past week and stay lit whenever it’s turned on. I need to scour the interwebs to see if anyone has come across that before. Fortunately it’s still usable you just can’t tell what going on with that step visually.

[@floood87]

awesomes

[@contrepiedltd4884]

How could I get back the factory samples?

[@CaveWay]

MFB website. They got what u need!

[@flotsamstan]

Man I'd love one of these things, no one seems to sell them. Out of production now?

[@CaveWay]

Not sure what the future will hold. The founder passed away earlier this year. RIP.

[@phopho1485]

Please if someone can tell me where i can buy that beatiful piece !!!! Please....

[@CaveWay]

I think your best bet is finding one on reverb

[@phopho1485]

@@CaveWay Thank you !

[@jasonmcgary]

DAMN!!!!!!!

[@astralboy]

For the hihat's data3 is supposed to be bitcrush. How do i increase the values since Data3 has no encoder?

[@CaveWay]

You can use the white buttons at the bottom to select the desired level 0-15.

[@oliviermissal8739]

Hey Cave Way os 1.08 beta is out !! Could you please show us what’s changed and your thoughts about it??? Would be great! Thanks for this video anyway ,always coming back to it. Great job man i was really frustrated with the ridiculous manual.

[@CaveWay]

Glad to hear the video is helpful! I think my Mac OS is too far in advance. I can no longer open the MFB software updater :( On a positive note the readme says they fixed knob recording and a few other things which is awesome. 🤙

[@oliviermissal8739]

Cant wait to c you in action with it 👊🏻

[@ElMidiLion]

@@CaveWay I have done it this way: send the *.sys via midi (no usb)

[@rims5788]

Hi, I have 3 questions regarding this unit, maybe someone will know one of them and wanna help. 1 does anyone knows how to save a sound? Synth always starts with tune at 0000 which is not a middle c, so i always need to bring it up to 1181 and that knob it's hard to fine tune. 2. is it possible to make it slide without it's internal sequencer? 3. i saw that tanzbar has midi cc, but for some reason the envelope (midi cc 57) doesn't act as expected. if i give it 127 value it goes till let's say half of the way. Each thing that i am trying to use from this machine has it's difficulties :)). It's crazy how buggy and not user friendly it is. Would love if someone can light me up with some ideas.

[@CaveWay]

I only know the answer to question 1. Unfortunately, not possible to save the tuning. Hopefully someone else can chime in on 2&3.

[@rims5788]

@@CaveWay Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer

[@electrosonicnebula]

So now that I watched the whole thing, you did only step sequencing, which makes sense given it's got buttons and no pads, although I'm assuming live record of the synth is what the keyboard layout is for. Have you tried that? Is it an easy way to play a bass or lead line with that synth voice? It was definitely super cool to watch you get that beat going, also got me thinking I'd still love a simpler box offering both drums and a simple synth voice.

[@CaveWay]

Good question - I haven’t tried live recording using the buttons. I’ve only used it in step mode to select pitches. It does respond to midi fine, but I don’t think you can record external midi into the internal sequencer..... maybe you can I haven’t tried - full disclosure 😃 I use my MPC to sequence the synth voice and it works well - just no glide with ext sequencing. Tr8s might be an option it’s is a great “bread and butter” DM that is more straight forward. It does lack a certain character but that can be overcome with crafting your own samples.

[@electrosonicnebula]

@@CaveWay Thanks for the thorough answer man. I'm fully enjoying your channel!

[@wanderfalke3209]

Hi, Cool demonstration. Love the swing / shuffle on the tb2. I saw that you also have /had a tanzmaus. I'm thinking of getting a tanzmaus to my tb2. Had the feeling that the tanzmaus kick is kind of "different" compared to the tanzbär. Does it make sense to get a tanzmaus if you already have tb? Thanks for your time

[@CaveWay]

In my opinion if you have the space and funds. It’s definitely worth it. The analog pieces of the Tanzmaus are voiced differently than the tb2 and can compliment the tb2 or just be a change of pace altogether. Not a huge fan of the clap on the maus but I think I’ve just got so used to clap samples over time…..

[@wanderfalke3209]

@@CaveWay yeah, that's what I thought also... I think I will get a Maus someday. The lack of clap is no problem because I have a simmons digital clap trap which I trigger with my 606. ;) thanks for your quick response and all the best

[@maxmaxington5873]

Hey man. I would love to know some advice on how you take the outputs of the tanz. What cable you use, then where it goes. I am done using the main out as it is noisey.. so annoying man :(

[@CaveWay]

That sucks!! I don’t use anything special. I use a Roland y cable on the master out, and cheap hosa 1/4” to 1/8” on the individual outs into a tascam24

[@otzeki]

Hey, thanks so much for the vid. Sounds dope. What are you using to process the recording? I've found that the kick 1 channel is particularly noisey to the point where I can't use it and have to reprogram my kicks. Did you use a quarter inch jack splitting into two jacks and then just a limiter on the recording? When I listen to videos of the tanzbar 2 on youtube the quality of the sound seems so much better than using one in real life. Trying to map where I've gone wrong. Thanks so much in advance for any advice or help! Cheers

[@CaveWay]

I use a Y cable - 1/4” TRS to 2 1/4” TS. I usually have to boost the signal with both my mixer and a limiter to get it to a reasonable level. Weird about the noise, I would check to see if the steps you program are automatically applying the noise parameter for the kik for whatever reason. Or when I’m doubt try a new cable 😀 Edit - do the individual outs vs master out make a difference in kick 1 noise?

[@otzeki]

​@@CaveWay thanks for your response. Nice yeah I do the same. The noise occurs when I take the individual out from kick 1 and it basically sounds like static/interference. Almost sounds like a grounding/power related problem but for some reason only comes out of the kick 1 channel. The only way to describe it is it basically sounds like a muddy/unclear recording. Or like a static hum. It's not that extreme but enough to make me want to change the kick after recording. Only when I record the kick 1 using it's individual out...tried using different cables and nothing changes. P.S is your power adapter a blackberry adapter? Thanks!

[@CaveWay]

My power supply came with the unit from Thomann and various country appropriate prongs that could be attached. The machine end is a mini USB.

[@fredericlebel229]

What are the other drum machines with a great tuning- pitch range?

[@CaveWay]

The Tanzmaus has a pretty wide range and so does the Alpha Base within their analog voices. If you go digital (ie TR8S) then the sky’s the limit!

[@MrCristianoMaria]

Hey man, THX for this tutorial. I Need ti ask you somthing: have you ever had problem with shift button? I Press It but, but It seems It does not work. Can you suggest somthing?

[@CaveWay]

I haven’t had that issue. Does shift+ anything work?

[@MrCristianoMaria]

@@CaveWay i fix It, but i had to open the tanzbar, clean up a bit, remove the button and replace It again..... :(

[@CaveWay]

@@MrCristianoMaria glad it’s working!!

[@csselement]

hard grooving device and operator

[@josemarquez950]

hi! i've searched on forums and in the manual and cannot find: how can you read what sample has been assigned to a specific step? selecting it will then change it to whatever the current "active" sample is for that voice, no? thank you in advance! (also, it's wild there's no "solo" feature like shift+mute or something)

[@CaveWay]

Yo! I don’t think it’s possible. I believe I always end up scrolling through samples to get back to where I was...... but I’ll test once I have the TB2 back on my desk. Also agree a solo feature would definitely be useful

[@josemarquez950]

@@CaveWay thank you. I sent a note to Jean Marcel Fricke, who kindly replied to an LCD hardware ?, asking about this. It makes me want to use a different sequencer which defeats all the lovely work they did with the workflow otherwise. Seems like a SHIFT + copy + DATA 1 or similar update in Firmware could handle it, even if only in record mode.

[@josemarquez950]

Likewise a shift + mute for solo / unsolo. (Jean Michel, if you’re listening 😅, viele danke!)

[@officialm5015]

Hmm strange.. When I followed the section you add ghosts notes into the kick, whilst only the ghost notes I selected are flashing (same as yours) my changes to the pitch seems to still be universal. You seem to be editing the pitch of JUST the ghost notes.. Any ideas?

[@CaveWay]

🤔 Try changing the mode - shift + man/step that might work.

[@NickHchaos]

Tanzbar 2 or AB if you have to choose one? How bad is the UI on AB?

[@CaveWay]

For live stuff - TB2. For Recording - AB. Or maybe best of both worlds - TB2 and use a midi track from there to fire off a jomox kik module. I find the UI fine on the AB - but it’s not setup to be a live playing type of box IMO. Mutes are awkward and you can only adjust one voice at a time. Nothing as confusing as an Octatrack- that thing was cool but a pain in the ass for me.

[@NickHchaos]

@@CaveWay Guess I'll stick with my Yocto..

[@NickHchaos]

@@CaveWay Although, Yocto with the AB could be a great combo if I don't mind the "eccentricities" of dealing with the AB..there is one at B-stock Thomann at the moment..maybe I should go for it, could always resell without losing much.

[@oliviermissal8739]

Can i ask a stupid question please? I don’t really understand the difference between manual or step mode, ok you need to be in step mode for the knob recording to work and parameter lock but is that all? Don’t you just stay in step mode all the time? Or is that the mode you are in when you create the track but if you are just jamming you go back to manual mode? Thanks man🤙🏻

[@CaveWay]

It’s all good man. I stay in step mode all the time 💯. Honestly I’m not even sure all what manual mode does other than allow you to play in beats with the buttons.

[@oliviermissal8739]

Thanks for your answer man, 🤙🏼

[@ashleygillespie9883]

Love your jams on the T2 bro , I really want to get one !! Does the sound quality outweigh the bugs ?

[@CaveWay]

Personally I think so…. They are generally minor things I’ve learned to live with. There are others who disagree.

[@ashleygillespie9883]

Thanks man 🙌🏽

[@raven-jz6cv]

Capable of 4floor hard tek? That second kick sounds promising

[@CaveWay]

Possibly with a sample layered on top. Kik 2 has the low end but doesn’t have the attack that would be needed to cut for that style

[@raven-jz6cv]

@@CaveWay ok so im better off with a rytm again i guess..as much as i hate/love elektron ... cause i cant afford the techno system 🤷‍♂️🤣

[@CaveWay]

Maybe the alpha base?

[@raven-jz6cv]

@@CaveWay funky house

[@girlinagale]

When you use the LFO you appear to sequence a step in LFO mode. Is that how it's done?

[@CaveWay]

You got it!

[@girlinagale]

@@CaveWay I'm yet to understand LFO say 4 bars on a single bar, I suppose it oscillates each 4 round the bar. And when I have 4 bars chained the LFO Step seems to only effect the bar with the step in it.

[@CaveWay]

I’ve never been successful in getting the LFO to trigger accurately over a phrase longer than 1 bar. I use it mainly on specific 16ths where I want an additional pitch envelope or filter cutoff for rhythmic samples.

[@girlinagale]

@@CaveWay Focussed LFO trigs, yeah!

[@xisotopex]

did they source that LED display from old novation KS synths?

[@CaveWay]

Good question! It’s a mystery

[@basswaves3276]

Drum Machine Scientist 😂

[@jla9096]

Yo not to pressure you or anything, but will you be releasing any more music 😅😅? Your tracks are all fire. Also, do you think it would be possible to create an entire techno set using the TB2? I bet you could pull it off, and it would be awesome

[@CaveWay]

I read your comment recently. And thought you know what @JLA? you’re right…. I should post more. Definitely on the house side of things. To answer your question. I do think it would be possible with the Tanzbar 2 and some external fx but it would much easier to bring along an MPC or some other sampler on the side to compliment the setup. Happy new year!

[@jla9096]

@@CaveWay happy new year man! Looking forward to whenever you post. If it doesn't happen, no big deal. I think all of this is touch and go sometimes, relatively spontaneous. I know I often can't make good stuff, but sometimes things click a little better. Im guessing you have a similar process of experimenting until things sound right. It's not easy but can be fun.

[@CaveWay]

@@jla9096 I totally mess around on the gear until something comes out. You got a link to your music? I’ll check it out

[@nondoctor]

Really good tutorial. Although I'm having some issues with the output volume being waaaaay to low. Am I missing something obvious in the settings?

[@CaveWay]

I don’t think so - my machine is also fairly quiet - The individual outs are hotter but I wouldn’t qualify them as loud. My mixer also has some gain compensation which helps. Outside of keeping the accent button on the loudest setting I don’t know of another way to increase the volume internally. I usually end up adding some saturation or compression to increase the gain in my DAW and add gain from my mixer.

[@thomaslemeur2123]

Hello dude need to have an user check about mfb tanzbar

[@CaveWay]

What’s up?

[@xisotopex]

are you familiar with the Tanzmaus? how does programming this compare to the Tanzmaus?

[@CaveWay]

Very familiar with the Tanzmaus. I would say it’s similar but easier (to me) to program. Dedicated buttons on the tb2 instead of using shift buttons on the Tanzmaus make it easier to navigate in my opinion.

[@xisotopex]

@@CaveWay I think that even a very basic display really makes programming easier.

[@CaveWay]

@@xisotopex definitely agree

[@boughtinerror]

Have you got a time stamp for using the external midi tracks to sequence external synths or did you not get into that?

[@CaveWay]

I’ll add that into the next video.

[@boughtinerror]

@@CaveWay thanks. Mfb stuff sounds great but I get tied in knots with the workflow

[@xisotopex]

this looks like a nightmare for us old geezers

[@CaveWay]

You got this! 😀 For me - it took a little while to get the muscle memory on programming. But it’s definitely not as hard as remembering everything on an Octatrack.

[@all20790]

For the techno that you make, do you just have the TB2 for the drums, and then you sequence all the synths in a daw?

[@CaveWay]

Mostly I use the MPC live to sequence the synths and edit the audio in a DAW. I started learning ableton this year so may start using that to sequence if I can figure out how to get everything syncd to the same tempo!

[@all20790]

@@CaveWay ah ok. So you have the TB2 synced with the MPC Live? Is the MPC Live playing through a prerecorded sequence while you tweak the TB2 along with it? I'm curious how you have it set up because it sounds dope!

[@CaveWay]

@@all20790 usually when I setup the MPC and tb2 I have a lot of sequences already ready to feed synths and many patterns that I can use to move along a set live depending on how the crowd is feeling it. Or if I’m feeling risky just hit generate random melody on the MPC and hope for the best 😃 . Pretty easy to make atonal patterns with short, chromatic random melodies and the autogenerate random Also lots of fx. Lots. Covers up my poor arrangement 😂

[@astralboy]

Hi there, i have a question regarding the activation of the dedicated knobs for the instrument in the center section. When the "man trig/record" is green color these knobs eg Kick1[Attk,decay,tune] respond. But when I switch to pattern mode it is not responsive. eg pressing "man trig/record"+Kick, the color is red and now the knobs Kick1[Attk,decay,tune] dont do anything. Exitting from this mode by pressing "man trig/record" :green color, the knobs are responsive again. These tweaked values in the green mode are again lost when toggling to pattern mode.

[@CaveWay]

If the man/trig button is red then you can either enter steps or use the instrument/sel button on the right to select the steps (if you already entered some) and in both instances you should be able to edit using the knobs. Once you’ve edited the steps using the knobs - lock it it with the ins/sel button again.

[@astralboy]

@@CaveWay you are correct, it does work except for the synth instrument in my case. for example you tweak the knobs after exitting the pattern mode and its responds. But toggle to a different Bar, say Bar B. This resets the knob as it was set in the pattern mode. Funky. Works fine for other instruments.

[@TROGULAR10000]

Hey, is there a reason that it says "this channel doesn't have any content" under the Home tab of your channel? I thought YT automatically put a selection of your content in there and you had to go to the Videos tab to see the whole list.

[@CaveWay]

Thanks for pointing this out! Not sure what changed but I had to manually update it on a desktop.....

[@carl156]

Needs a Firmware Update!

[@CaveWay]

I definitely agree

[@lindricdavid4850]

❤ fresh mf

[@suntzu6122]

That incomplete tuning range is odd

[@astralboy]

i am getting no sound from synth.........terrible documentation

[@CaveWay]

That’s a bummer. Hopefully your dealer or maybe MFB can sort it out for you.

[@astralboy]

@@CaveWay i got it from reverb. I recently got the 1/8" to 1/4" cable and find that the synth instrument does output from its out channel but not from the the main out.....I am conversing with Jean Markel from MFB on the same.