The Complicated Legacy of Jack Hyles

Is he (as his website claims) "a giant of fundamentalism"? Or is he something else?
Climb onboard as I talk about the man, the myth, and the problem of Jack Hyles.

[@Greywolfgrafix]

Our former pastor Mike Allison is a Jack Hyles follower. I quit the IFB in 1992, and have never set foot in one of their churches since.

[@SandyFerguson-o8z]

People should never attend a church that worships a man, but don’t put every IBC in the same category. I have never been in one like they are often portrayed. There are bad apples in every denomination. It is a trend in our wicked, perverted days. You have to evaluate each one individually, and it takes a while. Don’t join too quickly.

[@bubjones3988]

I appreciate what you said, i myself got saved in an independent fundamentalist baptist church. In 1985, I thought Jack Hyles could do no wrong. Bought tapes listened to all his messages. But it taught me so much, I don’t put any man upon a pedestal anymore. Never listen to a preacher without making sure it lines up with Gods word.

[@IFBPreachers]

You're definitely right about the quick salesmanship style of "soul winning." When I was there, the emphasis was on, "Get them to pray," so you would use whatever smooth-talking method worked so that you could say you had people pray with you.

[@michaelalford7006]

Thank you for your input.

[@montaguproctor-beauchamp8579]

​@@michaelalford7006It seems you have no idea the influence he had on the spanish speaking world.

[@michaelalford7006]

@@montaguproctor-beauchamp8579 Please elaborate.

[@MilesElder-ym6kn]

Well done, Sir! It doesn't take a genius to figure out Hyles' heresy and moral failings. The man's been dead 20 years, and some people still don't get it. Glad you do.

[@KimberlyMatrisch]

I met this man personally. I also went to IFB my entire life. Jack Hyles had so many naysayers against him my whole life but his messages hit you in the soul because he was USED by God. These "sins" have never been proven. If you've never set foot in his church and heard him speak you have no true idea of what he believed and how his relationship with God was. A lot of what he believed was hard to swallow but so we're many of the preacher's and prophets in the Bible. Yes, his legacy is complicated because he felt God called him to say the uncomfortable truth.

[@michaelalford7006]

You went to IFB your entire life? What does that mean?

[@KimberlyMatrisch]

@@michaelalford7006 independent fundamental baptist

[@answersfromscriptureonline]

Students at Hyles-Anderson stand and applaud for every speaker.

[@JR-lg7fd]

you did it too.

[@answersfromscriptureonline]

@@JR-lg7fd Everyone applauds something-what better to applaud than the preaching of God’s Word?

[@JR-lg7fd]

@@answersfromscriptureonline false

[@answersfromscriptureonline]

@@JR-lg7fd what is false about it?

[@JR-lg7fd]

@@answersfromscriptureonline the initial assumption

[@peterboyle5499]

Thankyou for raising many interesting points. Another thing that you didn't mention was the constant alter calls in IBF churches which felt like weekly guilt trips. On one hand salvation seemed so easy but on the other hand you had to repent every week or make a decision in order for God to approve of you. I found this confusing and damaging as a younger person

[@michaelalford7006]

I completely understand, though I don't know if that was a Hyles-specific practice.

[@hp7093]

I grew up in circles that highly elevated the many. No matter what mr came out on the guy the old folks would support him. Like many. I think he started out right and the devil got in the details. The story about the Deacons wife is crazy

[@cloudapostolicassembly5742]

I enjoy this. I've always wonder about him. Also, there's some things I like about Jack. Ask some things I don't. But we're living a time of counterfeits. The downfall, a very preacher, will always be fame. Money women until we as the people of God stop elevating. These men as God. Then maybe there'll be a change we're living in the last days. These are perilous times.

[@rtex2020]

I don't believe that Jack Hyles started the door-knocking; his mentor, John R Rice, started making it mandatory for teachers. Jack Hyles took this and heavily emphasized it.

[@michaelalford7006]

You could be right.

[@montaguproctor-beauchamp8579]

​@@michaelalford7006He is right LOL

[@JR-lg7fd]

Interesting. It couldn't possibly be less relevant.

[@rtex2020]

@@JR-lg7fd Accuracy and being correct are always relevant, so I don't fully understand your comment.

[@JR-lg7fd]

@@rtex2020 I doubt John Rice was the first person to go door knocking.

[@harrison4ever125]

I JUST took an interest in Jack Hyles the other day. As a truck driver, I have plenty of time to listen to sermons. So i have listened to about 8 or 10 of his sermons in the past day and then your video pops up all of a sudden. I did you the courtesy of listening to your video in its entirety and i have a few things to say. First of all, neither of us knew the man Jack Hyles personally. It is clear from his sermons that he was very close to the Lord and that his doctrine was scripturally based, rather than being based on Dispensationalism which is widely accepted as a man made system, and is flawed from beginning to end. I was raised a dispensationalist, but i never believed it. What i do know is that Dispensationalists like to attack non-dispensationalists without proving from the scriptures whether those things be so. The Bible tells us to prove all things. Many great men have proven Dispensationalism to be completely flawed. That subject aside, the fact that the gospel is easy to believe and easy to receive is easily provable from Acts chapter 10. The Bible says Acts 10:43-44 KJV To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. [44] While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. Now i am not a pentacostal, and i am not trying to prove speaking in tongues. But Baptists throw this scripture out with the bathwater because they are scared of tongues and they miss the truth, which is that these men were not repenting, they were not praying, they were not doing anything but listening to the gospel presentation and believed it and received the Holy Spirit, which the Bible says was evidence of their salvation. These men, ALL of them, got saved sitting and listening to preaching. So i would say it is a light thing then that getting saved is as easy as believing and accepting the gospel and praying a simple prayer to call on the name of the Lord as we're told to do in Romans 10:9-10. I would ask you to go and study this. And while youre at it, look up the 1828 definition of repent because it doesn't have anything to do with turning from sin. Another flawed teaching.

[@michaelalford7006]

Thanks for stopping by. You make some interesting points, and I appreciate that you listened to it all the way through before responding.

[@hp7093]

The tongue movement is a doctrine of demons

[@jenericstewart]

Hyle's easy believism and tactics are just wrong, but when I heard about the accusations against him with his secretary, I didn't know what to think. Many years later, I found interviews on YT of both Hyles' daughter and the secretary's husband. Hyles' daughter and the secretary's husband's interviews revealed what type of character they have by their own spoken word. If the accusers were above reproach, I'd have thought differently. But those two definitely left a bad taste in my mouth enough so that I don't believe them one iota. After listening to them, I that believe that Jack was innocent of the affair.

[@michaelalford7006]

That's certainly a fair assessment. Had I been a counselor to Hyles back then, I would have counseled him to step down for the ministries sake until his innocence or guilt could be established either way. Instead it looks like Hyles and those in his orbit doubled down and stonewalled.

[@teesbytom6232]

Easy believism is actually just that if you knew the Bible. But see I HATE flies, mosquitos, wasps, fire ants, roaches etc. etc. Therefore the creator knowingly/purposefully created them all so logic demands that I hate the creator of said creatures which of course I do. Think about it because the creator does NOT have to create anyone/anything he does not want to create.

[@beenballinsince9488]

The Bible also says in the last verse of Revelation 21 verse 27- “And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.” Everyone has told a lie at some point. Telling one lie makes me liar but my name is written in the lambs book of life also. The way I understand and reconcile this is that my flesh, that is my old man is what commits sin as explained in Romans 7. My flesh “the liar” that defileth will not enter in to heaven but my new man the regenerated spirit will enter in. I don’t see repentance in regards to salvation as turning from sin or giving up sin out of your life to be saved I believe u have to admit your a sinner and realize u need to be saved but turning from your evil ways is works according to Jonah 3:10.

[@michaelalford7006]

These are all interesting points.

[@mombythesea2426]

10 When God saw what they did, how they turned from their evil way, God relented of the disaster that he had said he would do to them, and he did not do it. How is this supporting your point?

[@beenballinsince9488]

@@mombythesea2426 Well Jonah 3:10 in the KJV, which hasn’t been corrupted and was translated from the original text says “And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not” According to God, turning from your evil way (Sin) is works. When he saw their works, that they turned from their evil way. Also notice that God himself repented in this verse. He didn’t repent of sin, he doesn’t have any sin. He just changed his mind and chose not to destroy Nineveh. Repenting doesn’t always have sin associated with it. Sometimes it does but in regard to salvation is does not because turning from sin is works. We’re saved by grace through faith alone. Repentance in regard to salvation is changing your mind or turning from whatever you were trusting in for salvation and putting your faith in Christ. Many people trust in their own righteousness to get to heaven, they must repent of that and put their trust in Christ alone.

[@mombythesea2426]

@@beenballinsince9488 The Hebrew word for the people turning from their sin is H7725. It means to turn from or repent. The word for God changing his mind is H5162. It means to pity, be sorry, or be moved to compassion. It can mean repent in a sense, but not from sin since God doesn't sin. H7725 is used for repenting from sin, which means to turn. The verse literally means they turned from their sin and God had compassion on them and saved them.

[@beenballinsince9488]

@@mombythesea2426 I agree, my only point was that God equated them turning from sin as works. So if someone thinks they have to turn from sin to be saved then they’re trying to be saved by works according to God

[@teesbytom6232]

Hyles made big mistakes like making Dave youth minister while he was still at HAC and not ordained. Making Schaap his successor was totally unbiblical in that it is the sole duty of the deacons to pray and fast and get direction from God as I'm to who should be in that place. I was gone from the church at that time but I knew I Jeff Owens was a more likely choice from an outside view at that time. Today it looks like FBC draws only about 300 to 400 on that huge auditorium. Going the way of Moody church.

[@davidkoch3666]

Don’t forget he travels all over… I’ve led people to Christ at a donut shop, on a bus, on a plane, at the door, in the park, etc…..

[@answersfromscriptureonline]

I tried to listen to this, but it was so filled with misinterpretation, misinformation, etc. that I stopped. Stop rehashing decades old lies that are completely disproven and giving them dignity.

[@michaelalford7006]

Well, thanks for stopping by.

[@mkrock9402]

Every preacher and teacher can be evaluated and examined and i believe ALL will have both good and bad things to account for....ministry and non ministry christians all fail andhave complicated testimonies.....those men and their families get attacked by the enemy relentlessly.....i must remind myself to pray for my pastor and his family ...these type of messages need to be taught...but i always wonder about how your life will look after its over....im sure it wont be perfect....and im never surprised at the things Christians actually do.....furthermore our greatest biblical hereos all had serious flaws and were guilty of sin..... Thats not an excuse but our pastors and leaders are merely just flawed men ...a reminder of Gods grace....

[@michaelalford7006]

All good points. Thanks for contributing to the discussion.

[@teesbytom6232]

Well let me ask THE question that DESTROYS God/Bible and EVERY so called believer/minister! Why did Adam & Eve NOT eat from the "tree of life" which would have guaranteed they could NEVER die? Go ahead and try to reply with an answer but be warned I have always responded and destroyed every contention because I do know the Bible/God better than any living being.

[@davidkoch3666]

You never went to First Baptist and know nothing about what you read…..The Bible teaches pastoral authority….. 70,000 sermons… Hyles coined Romans Road…. It is called SOUL WINNING!!

[@JR-lg7fd]

Please stop misusing Acts 20:20

[@michaelalford7006]

What would you consider the proper use of Acts 20:20?

[@JR-lg7fd]

If the phrase is not isolated out of context, It's fairly likely that Paul is referencing meetings where he would teach. sometimes gathering in a public place, sometimes in the houses of people who would host the gatherings. or even individual visits to members of the churches there.

[@michaelalford7006]

@@JR-lg7fd You raise some good points. I think the phrase could be describing both door-knocking type of activities and house meetings.

[@JR-lg7fd]

@@michaelalford7006 it's possible

[@JR-lg7fd]

@@michaelalford7006 It is important not to read modern cultural practices into the teachings of scripture.

[@paulatkins7009]

TEMPLE, TEXAS . . .

[@michaelalford7006]

Im sorry, did I say something amiss?

[@paulatkins7009]

@michaelalford7006 This is where I live. Everyone that has ever heard of Jack Hyles needs to listen. I am 59. I spent from '82 to '92 listening to Jack Hyles and then '13 to '23 listening to Steven Anderson. I've spent 20 years listening to at least 1 sermon every day while working out, driving, or spending time trying to be edified.

[@michaelalford7006]

Anderson might eventually get his own episode. I'm not sure.@@paulatkins7009

[@paulatkins7009]

@michaelalford7006 Since I was 11, so almost for 50 years, I have been studying and learning, and therefore, I have a lot of experiences and knowledge of Christian thinking, behavior, motivation, and intentions. My story isn't too terribly dramatic, although I have been sharply influenced and affected.

[@michaelalford7006]

Well I hope the podcast is a blessing to you, then.@@paulatkins7009

[@teesbytom6232]

Hyles made big mistakes like making Dave youth minister while he was still at HAC and not ordained. Making Schaap his successor was totally unbiblical in that it is the sole duty of the deacons to pray and fast and get direction from God as I'm to who should be in that place. I was gone from the church at that time but I knew I Jeff Owens was a more likely choice from an outside view at that time. Today it looks like FBC draws only about 300 to 400 on that huge auditorium. Going the way of Moody church.