The CONS of Being an Animator | Animation Industry Problems

[@RobynO_O]

I'm getting notifications of some comments which I try to reply to but when I hit reply, they're nowhere to be found on the actual page. There are other people on the platform complaining about the same thing happening to them, so if I haven't replied to your comment and you can't see it here, please know I haven't deleted it and I'm not ignoring you, it seems to be a glitch.

[@Frenezy1000]

My brother always says "if you do what you love, you will work double every day."

[@RobynO_O]

Your brother sounds very wise, I agree with that.

[@Khaled_Rushdy]

that's true

[@ipi223]

totally disagree some will pay you half......cuz you love what you do < business like a slave that like is job

[@severath19]

There's one thing to do what you love. There's another being exploited for others.

[@skullyinc.]

Your brother is very funny.

[@MikeScottAnimation]

Animation = pain. Props on getting a receptionist job. I used to work as a waiter, and other random stuff (delivering scripts, scanning drawings, making coffee and washing dishes). Paying the dues yo.

[@RobynO_O]

oh yeah, it can be pretty painful sometimes! Gotta start somewhere, andI'm glad I had the experience

[@cagedreptile]

I agree with everything you said. I have been working in the industry for a similar amount of time to you and there are very few woman although it has become better(still room for improvement imo). Every job I have done, my colleagues have all been 26-50 year old white males. Hopefully there will be more diversity. I'm a black 3d artist and love the industry but it has along way to go.

[@RobynO_O]

Yeah, sounds like our experiences are quite similar. I've had some people argue with me, saying I'm wrong or don't know what I'm talking about and that the industry has no such problems with diversity but I guess they've just either been in very different companies or they just never noticed. It does seem to have been getting better win recent years so let's hope it just keeps improving, and people keep bringing attention to the fact that diversity matters and is actually really important.

[@cagedreptile]

@@RobynO_O It sounds like you were being 'gaslit' which is typical of people who benefit from the status quo in some way. Yes, speaking out is so important and gets easier as you get older and grumpier 🙂

[@dariuszmrowca7181]

"Problem"? with diversity? So white people are a problem? you people are sick in the head.

[@ShmodoBagins]

I haven't had the chance to hone any of my skills bcos I've had to bounce around a million industries where its always contract work and they never tell you if they going to extend it or not.... Networking doesn't help.... I've been kicked while I'm down and keep getting kicked... This industry has absolutely broken me.... Trying to find a job they want an entire team of ppl in one person and most jobs aren't even advertised it's word of mouth... I work hard, I'm passionate and I love 3D... But the constant let down and difficulty to find work is slowly killing me.... Having contract work and NDAs means I have almost nothing to show on my portfolio... So it has been 8yrs of stress, anxiety, being unemployed multiple times and losing all my savings... And now I sit again about a year and a half of being unemployed with bad depression and anxiety and hating on myself and my life

[@RobynO_O]

Hey Simone, I'm so sorry to hear about your struggle. It's heartbreaking hearing people's stories of how the industry has broken them. It's so brutal sometimes, especially to people who work on contract or freelance. The NDAs are also such a problem because how are animators supposed to get work if they can't showcase work they've done in the past ?? It does sometimes feel like companies don't see creatives and animators as people trying to make a living, but just as machines there to produce work and then get discarded. I'm really sorry that you've gone through all this.

[@malinamorales6527]

Thank you for saying this. I've been at a cross roads for a while between what career to choose. Security is a huge importance for me

[@ipi223]

you sum my mind: being unemployed with bad depression and anxiety and hating on myself and my life

[@shmodobaginsgaming3042]

@@ipi223 same person here, my phone won't let me switch to my other channel lol. It's very very tough and I've been in that deep pit of depression and anxiety where you feel there is no way out. I've spent a lot of time working on myself and trying to improve my mental health. I had severe anaemia which also added to things.... So I got an iron infusion and was seeing a new psychiatrist and I am off my antidepressants after 10yrs. I still have a lot of anxiety but found out I have ADHD. Self awareness and trying to better yourself even in the smallest way can help a lot. I'm still getting messed around. Worked for the whole of June and the boss refuses to pay me, doesn't like me. He got upset I broke up with my fiance bcos he feels my fiance was helping me with everything. So yaaay. Silver lining. This job got me in touch with great ppl. I am now going to Sweden to further my studies. I will be studying game art, I'm getting out of my country and will have better opportunities... You've got this. It's hard af but just keep pushing best you can.

[@ipi223]

@@shmodobaginsgaming3042 keep on! life is hard must keep moving forward! (that what i say to myself when i feel the demon sneaking around)

[@megamoze]

I've been at two different studios for the past 4 years and have yet to work any overtime. Part of it is well-produced shows, and part of it is union protection. I'm in LA so we have a union overseeing our working conditions and salaries. Our deadlines sort of ease toward us and we get to wind-down as they approach rather than face a mad scramble. I will never go back to a non-union show if I can help it.

[@RobynO_O]

That is so awesome. I'm so glad to hear that there are studios out there that don't have that crazy overtime and crunch at the end. That gives me hope! I wish they all had union protection. Hopefully it will become more and more common.

[@Friendly_Squirrel]

6:05 Having to deal w/ something that is so simple but takes the entire day, that is so relatable. Your post in Amateur Animators brought me here, excellent video!!!! :) I am now subscribed!

[@RobynO_O]

ha ha yeah that's one of the most frustrating things of this job! Thanks!

[@rkb2092]

That was a good presentation. I've been in the industry as an animator (stop-motion & CG) since 1979. Some jobs have been a breeze and others have almost killed me from the hours, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. You have to love it though, as that is what keeps you going. I could write a book on this subject. My end goal is to make my own solo feature in my retired "tinkering" years :)

[@RobynO_O]

you definitely do have to love it or you'll end up hating it! That's a great goal to have, I'd love to do a similar thing

[@dragonartgroup6982]

Can I have your email? I badly need some advises

[@dragonartgroup6982]

Can I have your email? I badly need some advises

[@АлександарПавловић-ф7д]

"You need to have your own creative projects going on in the background to keep that spark of creativity alive!"

[@RobynO_O]

very important!

[@fomoscomicsandpopculture]

Unfortunately, most of the kids need to watch this are too busy, consuming Content, to steady their mind to get this information. Every parent worth their salt would track this information down, plop the kid in front of it and have some real conversations about what the job is really about. Thank you. .Robin ❤️

[@RobynO_O]

Yeah, it's definitely important stuff to know to be able to make an informed decision about pursuing a career in animation.

[@Uplock_boy]

I feel like they're multiple ways of making money using animation all you gotta be is creative ✨

[@RobynO_O]

Yeah, there are a lot of things you can do to make some extra money, as a side hustle or if you're a freelancer. I do plan on doing a video about it sometime. It's different if we're talking just about salaries though, because that's totally about what companies are willing to pay you and a lot of companies still try to lowball animators. No everyone wants to or is able to supplement their main income or fulltime job with other creative ways of making extra money as that requires extra time that some people may not have. I mean, most of the time, you expect your salary to cover you without having to find other creative ways of making money. But I do agree with you and that's the beauty of animation, there are a lot of ways of making extra money.

[@outlawdasilva]

This is a really cool video. I’ve been looking for an animator for a video idea I have and I got caught up researching the industry. Awesome insight.

[@RobynO_O]

Thanks, nice to know that even people who aren't animators but hire them would watch this too!

[@carlahavemann7720]

Thank you for this. I thought I was doing something wrong but everything you've spoken about hit home. This industry is cut-throat. I relate to your experience. 👌 Fellow South African.

[@RobynO_O]

Yeah, its not just you. Hopefully we who are currently in the industry can help facilitate changes where we can

[@intrikast]

Great vid, couldn't of summed it up better. Enjoy your content!

[@RobynO_O]

Thanks Geoff!

[@CandiWare]

Robyn I 100% agree with you I've been in the industry for 15 years now and I remember doing internships where they would pay for my transit and the industry was so bad at the time the things you do when your new :(

[@BrianKouhi]

Haha awesome video nailed it on the head. I just finished a script on a video exactly on this topic! People need to know!

[@RobynO_O]

Yeah, like I'm all for encouraging people to become animators if that's what they want to do, but only if they're aware of what they're potentially getting into.

[@Savyra]

Awesome video. Thanks for your honesty, RobynO.

[@RobynO_O]

Thank you Savyra !

[@krayways]

This is great insight Robyno! Im new to your channel and I'm so glad I found it! I'm a motion freelancer with 5y+ exp, and I can really relate to your comments! Looking forward what you will create with this channel! Thanks!

[@RobynO_O]

Thanks for your feedback, it's always good to hear that other professionals can relate!

[@BxThexGhost]

When you said about software running into an issue and taking all day to fix a simple issue... I felt that. #Maya

[@RobynO_O]

#animatorstruggles 😅

[@malinamorales6527]

This video helped a thousand thank you

[@RobynO_O]

I'm so glad, you're welcome

[@FlashVedder]

I just stuck with being a freelancer and skip the studios … I love the full control of my life and get to travel around … 🙂

[@RobynO_O]

being a freelancer can be pretty awesome!

[@FlashVedder]

@@RobynO_O it can be hard and lonely at times but also awarding 🙂

[@NintendoWizard24]

Thank you for talking about pay! It's not brought up enough and its incredibly important. Especially for those with 45hour week day jobs

[@RobynO_O]

oh yeah, it's one of the most important things to talk about when discussing careers and jobs!

[@Davi_De_Andrade]

Wow, this was much heavier than I thought. I am very thankful for this video to reveal the truth, I'm a student that's going to graduate in less than a year, it's quite scary of seeing how all of this would happen

[@RobynO_O]

Sorry Davi, I don't want to scare anyone, and like I say in the video, some of these things do happen in other industries too, so it's not exclusively animation. Some places are better than others, and I've noticed some studios making an effort not to have these problems so I think it is slowly getting better. Hopefully the new generation of animators can also help change bad conditions or problems within the industry.

[@Davi_De_Andrade]

@@RobynO_O That's good to hear, still very thankful that you did put out the video. As I know have more thinking, planning, and preparing to do. You have an awesome channel

[@RobynO_O]

@@Davi_De_Andrade thank you, and good luck !

[@shardultripathi1756]

I am not afraid of these conditions

[@firstsipstudios]

Thanks for making this video! I am sorry you have dealt with sexism. We are trying to fight that and racism in our industry too. Speak Up!

[@RobynO_O]

Thank you!

[@vrsinghe]

Great video, very informative. Keep it up!

[@RobynO_O]

Thanks !

[@michaelwright8896]

You said you weren't trying to convince anyone not to be an animator but you did make a good case of why not to become an animator.

[@RobynO_O]

Animation as a career is not for everyone. People have different priorities and are willing to sacrifice different things for their careers or passions. A lot of people are fully aware of these cons about the animation industry, and are willing to put up with them to be an animator. Other people aren't. Just like some people would be willing to put up with the cons of being a video director, or an actor, or a doctor, to pursue those careers, while others wouldn't. If someone feels like this video convinces them that they don't want to be an animator, rather they find out sooner than later rather than wasting their time building a career they end up hating.

[@ericsart6474]

I have heard a lot about lot's of overtime and long hours in this industry. I know it happens. But it's not everywhere and not all people will experience it. I have been in the VFX and animation industry for 20 years and I can count the amount of overtime or more than 8hr days I've worked on my two hands. And I have worked in Commercials, TV, and Feature film. A lot of it is more about your personal time management and or workflow.

[@mittirezi]

Thank you so much !!!! it was so informative

[@RobynO_O]

You're welcome ! So glad it was helpful !

[@YoursAnimationhub]

Everything was Ü said is true. I'm an artist, who left this industry 4 years back. But I enjoyed 😉 your video. Best part was 17:32 😊😊. Every artist 🎨 has hidden child in it. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee🤭

[@RobynO_O]

Thanks! ha ha yeah, I never think people will actually watch to the end, but you did!😅

[@T4eva]

Got me at 14:06

[@corpodescartavel]

what do you do now?

[@LadySeraphineCC]

You're scaring me... I'm in college right now. I know the industry had its issues but I didn't know they were this bad. :( I still want to pursue it though..

[@RobynO_O]

sorry, it's just better for people to be fully aware and prepared.

[@LPMOVIESTVSofficial]

i love animation and my dream to work in it

[@RobynO_O]

That's great, good luck on reaching your dream 👍

[@LPMOVIESTVSofficial]

@@RobynO_O thanks my friend have a good week only just seen your message

[@RobynO_O]

@@LPMOVIESTVSofficial you have a good week too!

[@RealStarkinder]

I worked as a waitress right out of high school to support myself on my own & was sexually harassed in every restaurant I worked at. To be fair, I am a natural flirt who loves attention and had terrible boundaries for self love at the time - so I allowed a lot of it. However, it exists everywhere. 3 things to remember working in ANY industry: 1 - Your work stability is not dependent on you making others happy - (customers ARE included in this) 2 - Know your worth as a human & Show others that you respect their worth too 3 - ... and when all of the above obviously isn't happening... Know Self Defense Just be respectful, guys. Sex is great & everything - Mutual Respect Though - That's HOT

[@RobynO_O]

I'm so sorry to hear that you went through that. Even if you're a flirt, nobody deserves or asks for sexual harassment. I hope you're working in a place now where it's not happening so often. Your points are totally right.

[@RealStarkinder]

@@RobynO_O For the last 9 months, I've been my own boss - I'm broke ... but hey, I was able to gather some experience in this field without donating an arm or leg for College - lol -

[@midnightsss_1989]

omg I relate to the natural flirt thing and holy shitt some guys you barely know just want to grab you by your hips bc of sexual interest😭😭

[@Curtoonstv]

Yeah, you can’t be flirting, dawg. Gotta have set boundaries and keep it cordial. Laws are not gonna always prevent people from breaking them so you have to set your own.

[@plateatemate7872]

Thank you so much for talking about how the industry is. Unfortunately, there's art schools where I'm from that shamelessly exploit impressionable students. Those so-called lecturers and teachers are just scums driven by greed. Yikes!!!

[@RobynO_O]

You're welcome. Yes, it seems like there are unfortunately a lot of greedy individuals out there who will exploit the young and impressionable. I just hope young animators will realize their worth and know their skills have value, and that those who exploit them can be called out in some way

[@ProfessionalReferences]

I like the way you explain things, very calm and clear thank u.. When you were a beginner have you considered moving to canada? Everybody says it's just better over there

[@RobynO_O]

Thanks ! Yes, I did seriously consider moving to Canada , quite a few times over the years , but both myself and my partner ultimately decided we’d miss our families too much and we didn’t want our kids to grow up without their extended family around either

[@ProfessionalReferences]

@RobynO_O yep this is a tough one to make for everybody. That and also the cold weather over there. By the way, about the sexism.. You are very attractive and unique looking woman so I guess it's not really an industry related thing, Could've been worse if you wanted to be a singer or an actor or if you were born 60 years ago.. I hope the world will get better and i guess its probably made you stronger :)

[@aaronbarlow4376]

I'm a film animator with 20 years experience animating on blockbusters like Guardians of the galaxy and Jurassic world. Film has collapsed due to the retarded lockdowns, the writers strikes and the streaming medium beating out cinemas. I cannot get a gig in the games indstry because they always ask for specifically game animation experience, which is ridiculous as animation is animation. Sure there's a little bit of game engine integration know how required but that's just another part of the pipeline every aniamtor has to learn when onboarding with a company, and it's usually a few simple steps of exporting anim, importing into engine and testing. The animation might have a few minor contraints like faster action clips to maximise user response but that is zero problem for a film animator. Game companies are really missing out on fanastically talented animators through ignorance and tunnel vision.

[@maxmagnus777]

The blood in your eyes tells me more than all explaining on how much you've been working late. Also this might be an interesting question is: Are there employees in the industry that do not crunch? I've heard that riggers have it easier than the other slaves of the industry. (This feels like that moment in Zombieland when they still have hope that there are no Z-s in Philadelphia or Sacramento or...)

[@RobynO_O]

Well, there are some studios that are very careful not to have that crunch time and make sure that projects are strictly managed and kept within scope. I'm not sure if there is any specific role within the industry though that never ever has crunch time, as each role works to a deadline. But I also imagine that the people closest to the final deadline/ release date are possibly the people who crunch the most, so by reason maybe the people who are right at the beginning, like concept artists or storyboard artists, might not have as intense of a time? I'm really not sure though.

[@maxmagnus777]

@@RobynO_O So there might be no Z-s in Philadelphia but we are not sure. Anyways I know this concept artist that had designs changed 7 (seven) times on him. To add to that a tiny bit of pixie dust he is also in debt to them 11 000e because he was not able to fulfill his oral contracts. I guess it comes down to what companies are you working for or creating your own Peppa clone.

[@RobynO_O]

@@maxmagnus777 Oh my gosh , that is awful. that's so terrible that he ended up in debt...so messed up. Guess we do have to be really careful about contracts and who we end up working with, although I would have thought that an oral contract would have no weight , because there's no proof of any agreement? Unless it's recorded over the phone I guess or on a zoom call.

[@roniemacaroni864]

18 hour days that's inhumane

[@RobynO_O]

it is. Definitely not something that should be happening

[@siddh3921]

Facts! 💯

[@locusruizlopez5997]

thanks

[@Berry-nc8pr]

Well done talking about sexual harassment! It's always hard but every story said helps the next story be heard

[@RobynO_O]

Thank you so much for saying that. It is really hard. That's why I wasn't even sure until I was actually sitting down doing the video if I would even talk about it at all. I did end up cutting a lot out even so. Because it is difficult to put out there. So again, thank you for acknowledging that

[@Berry-nc8pr]

@@RobynO_O I get you completely! It's very hard to hear too

[@Fairygirl-q6g]

I hate how people go through that. No one should.

[@ankushatrangi]

True i am also in this field more then 6 years and deadline suc.s and now i wants to switch my carrer to something else ..

[@himalayansalt32]

The mistreatment of people is the reason why I will never have kids. No more slaves from me

[@lebo5613]

damn. well that was depressing 😣

[@RobynO_O]

sometimes the truth hurts

[@akashabeeler4244]

I’m young so do you ever think that animation might be a slow job when I’m older because so much more media will be produced by then

[@RobynO_O]

I think animation is a great career for the younger generation to get into. As digital media gets more and more popular, there is more and more demand for animated content. While some stuff does get more automated, it gives animators more time and freedom to hone other skills

[@pinkray2090]

I just want to say I’m sorry that you were treated inappropriately at your job. And it’s me so angry that your superiors didn’t really do anything about it. Harassment should never be allowed or tolerated at any workplace.

[@RobynO_O]

Thank you, I appreciate that

[@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-]

"I know you didn't mean to... hurt... my feelings." Those are the last words you want to hear from a South African.

[@Audiomaker49]

As a former animator nobody will understand the feel of being overworked and underpaid

[@RobynO_O]

it's very discouraging

[@lukehyde7300]

try not to discourage people too much, overtime is not an industry standard (at least not in the uk)

[@ginyoagoldie]

Q: if you could change a thing about the animation industry, what would it be?

[@RobynO_O]

I think I'd change the way that a lot of studios still exploit animators, especially young ones, with low pay and crazy work hours. And the way a lot of studios think that your job as an animator should be more important than anything else - expecting a lot of overtime from you and telling you "that's just the industry". A lot of overtime can be avoided by better project and client management

[@te9591]

NZ?

[@RobynO_O]

SA

[@te9591]

@RobynO_O SA is very close to Australian language accents.

[@RobynO_O]

@@te9591 yeah it is

[@aaronbarlow4376]

There's something else at work in the animation industry more sinister than any percieved 'sexism', it's VFX company culture. It has become insufferably woke and left wing. If you're an animator who speaks the truth about the world and has a grasp of reality, science, logic and critical thinking, then making yourself heard on politically contentious issues could lead to getting 'let go'. Conservatives are discriminated against in the VFX industry and it has a chilling effect on the company work environment where everyone is walking on eggshells to not make an edgy joke and get called to HR's office. I even know of a guy who was openly conservative on social media, not even at work, and the supervisors did not like him over that, one day a fellow girl animator befriended him and they shared lots of messages at work, getting on like a house on fire, one day he shared an edgy, slightly lewd joke with her and she ran straight to HR and he was fired a week later after a fake 'enquiry'. It was obvious that she was part of a setup, and it goes to show that true discrimination in the industry is political.

[@dragonartgroup6982]

Is it wise to be a one when you are sure that you will be one of the bests?

[@frankiecardona1656]

it seems like the job might just not be for you

[@T4eva]

Hi I’d like to network with you... Whatever that means.

[@2IDSGT]

Answer phone, get taken out to lunch. Answer phone a little more, get taken out to dinner. Let men do the real work. 😆

[@aamkhaa]

this is so true

[@RobynO_O]

thanks for the feedback, glad I'm not the only seeing/experiencing these issues

[@BucketBoiTV]

Everything you said……yes just yes 😂 animation ain’t for everyone

[@RobynO_O]

Yep! I've seen tons of people get very jaded with it when it's not how they thought it would be!

[@iqbalikubaru6347]

really good video.. i am also an animator for 8 years.. and i agree with you..

[@RobynO_O]

Thanks, hopefully the problems with the industry will get better as people become more aware of them and we try to improve what we can about it too

[@Curtoonstv]

Overtime is crazy, had to work from 10:00 AM to 1 AM. Animators have it hard sometimes.

[@RobynO_O]

Yeah I did quite a few all-nighters myself when I was younger. Luckily haven't had to do that in a while, but still do quite a bit of overtime

[@ankushatrangi]

Ya being animator is hard hard hard overtime overtime overtime recheck correction approvals then repeat sleepless night

[@HubertKnoblauch3DContentOnline]

thanks Robyn, good vid. Men, step up your game if you see poor conduct.

[@RobynO_O]

Thanks Hubert! Absolutely

[@WhatelsecouldIsayhomey]

Hard truth video.

[@deafconmediaZA]

Yeah, sounds familiar.

[@RobynO_O]

glad I'm not the only one seeing these problems

[@RobynO_O]

oh ok. cool. Yes, will let you know, thanks

[@deafconmediaZA]

@@RobynO_O Thanks.

[@Dcuniverse60]

​@@RobynO_Ogoddess your are beautiful

[@aaronbarlow4376]

Sexism is not a thing in the industry. I've worked as an animator for 15 years and never seen it, and I've worked with many female animators. I was slappd on the ass one day at a work drinks in a pub one day. I took it as intended, just friendly but if the genders were reversed it'd be a trip to HR. Women are not discriminated against hiring wise, in fact often they get preferential treatment as companies seek to create a more equal distribution.

[@stuartdaly9815]

Boomer say what?

[@RobynO_O]

I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that it's just not a thing in the industry. At all. That's just obviously false. Maybe you feel like you never saw anything you would class as sexism happening in front of you, but also why do you think it never happened behind closed doors, or just..you know....not in front of you? You couldn't be everywhere at all times, and why do you think you would hear about every case that happened? Plenty of women just keep it to themselves when it happens because they're worried about it being dismissed - or worse, having it affect their career or being labelled as "difficult" . So in those cases, you wouldn't know about it. And the worst cases will almost always happen when other people are not around because the perpetrator waits for that moment because they obviously don't want to be caught or called out. So maybe consider the possibility that although you may feel like you never witnessed it personally, you're not omniscient. You can't just dismiss the fact that so many women have experienced it.

[@shado1804]

@@RobynO_O YOU TELL HIM FAM😭😌

[@Fairygirl-q6g]

@@stuartdaly9815 Either a boomer or a zoomer who is blind.

[@ianxsavino1]

I agree. Sexism isn’t a thing in the industry. We are planning to make a video on our channel “christian car rides” on whether women in the animation industry have it harder than men, spoiler alert, they don’t lol I worked as a Whamen in the industry (in America) for over ten years and I found women just loved to complain and treat Everything as some sort of plight against them. The industry is cruel to everyone, equally. If you are talented, hard working, and genuinely great to work with, you will succeed. There are plenty of women in the industry in higher-up positions. I personally found that working with men was 100% better than working with women (not all but a majority of them). The men were always super chill, kind, polite, and eager to teach. I never felt excluded as a woman when I worked with men. The women not so much unless you were in their “victim-hood” club. The women who tend to go into the animation industry are a certain “breed” who are more often than not, super libby, super screechy, and super feminist. Think “blue-hair”. It reminds me of that bill burr joke about modern feminism. Classic 😂 And to call someone a boomer is pretty sad and pathetic. A lot of the older gen created the shows that inspired our generation and why we love animation. There is no respect for the people that came before us. Fudge you who said that!

[@TommyLikeTom]

This screams entitlement and privilege

[@RobynO_O]

How?

[@stuartdaly9815]

Your comment screams sad loser though 🤣

[@ArtInMotionStudios]

I feel i shouldn't even engage because this feels like deliberate trolling. Entitlement and privilege? I think you didn't watch the video, or are the actual entitled and privileged one, because anyone in the industry has seen and most likely experience the terrible long hours and exploitation of people who are a part of a production team or post production team that often comes from having to make up for poor management decisions. Most of all those who are new to the industry that get taken advantage of ,getting thrown into the deep end while being over worked and under paid , if paid at all, while still learning to navigate the industry, and adapt to whatever workflow and software the company expects them to use. I would say it comes from a place of extreme privilege that you haven't experience or even know people who have been taken advantage of in the industry most of all locally. Just the fact you dismiss these experiences speaks to the level of privilege you have, you're practically pathological!

[@ipi223]

to say the truth is always good THANK RobynO you will or already help a lot! ciao