The Contrarians Presents: They Should Be in the Rock Hall

[@gaznathemoon1128]

Nazareth...BTO....Bad Company...Badfinger...Blue Oyster Cult...Foghat...Jethro Tull...Kansas..Scorpions...Steppenwolf..They're all in mine tho...and that's what really matters.

[@magnuswettermark8293]

Agree..and Golden Earring,Little River Band,Grand Funk Railroad,Triumph......

[@robertadams998]

If not Bad Compny then Paul Rodgers at least

[@ront769]

Get rid of all non-rock artists that are squatting in the RRHOF. Then we'll have plenty of space for these great one's.

[@martymartin2894]

Definitely scorpion's from this list.

[@briandunlap8534]

Thin Lizzy, MC5, Motorhead

[@bubbadagger]

Caring about the RHOF is like caring who wins the grammies

[@davidkornblatt851]

Or who wins the Oscars or the Tonys!

[@Mark-bi5dk]

I really don't think anyone on the panel cares..it just makes for a good show

[@historybuff1483]

Yeah, but it’s still interesting to keep track of who gets disrespected

[@billschuster6680]

That's it exactly. 👍​@@Mark-bi5dk

[@michaelbaucom4019]

The yearly rant: Kansas Supertramp Jethro Tull King Crimson Styx Blue Oyster Cult REO Speedwagon Iron Maiden Toto At least Foreigner finally got in Quit calling it the Rock and Roll HOF, call it the Pop Music HOF, and there will be less outrage. Or, make sure there are entries each year for each genre. Or, have each genre start its own HOF

[@kevinnelson3525]

The BEST truthful, no hedging,fact based smart guys I've seen . Nick, with his straight forward speech is right on..no BS. Loved it. I wish they each had 5 picks each.

[@czarevich]

Thanks kindly. Nick S Etc.

[@hardrockingtriviashow667]

Three Dog Night, Grand Funk Railroad, Scorpions, Styx, Kansas, BTO, Bad Company, Ted Nugent, Fanny, Iron Maiden, Thin Lizzy, The Guess Who etc...

[@thirdrailelectrocution]

Blue Oyster Cult should have been in years ago, consistently great albums, tons of great songs, how can you not make a case for them ?, they should have been in years ago.

[@billschuster6680]

BOC is one of my favorite bands. I've sung their praises on multiple Contrarians episodes. I was even a part of Martin's last BOC book. They would easily be in my personal hall of fame. The actual Hall of Fame, though? It's a shaky case. They are not really a major influence. They didn't really create any new genres. They didn't have sustained commercial success. While I would certainly put them in ahead of many current hall of fame members, I still think there are many more artists that have had a more significant impact, waiting to get in, despite my personal love of the band. By all means, if you want to make the case, I'm willing to be convinced I'm wrong.

[@markhuntington9149]

And Dio got screwed because he wasn't inducted with Black Sabbath!

[@kevinnelson3525]

3 Dog Night Tom Jones Kansas Grand Funk All should have been slam dunks

[@svsugvcarter]

Dr. Hook is a great pick!

[@mirko1382]

Loudness. 1) They inspired an entire country. 2) They have 28 albums 3) Vocalist Minoru Niihara has recorded 504 songs across 46 albums in 2 languages. 4) Akira Takasaki has also inspired guitarist like Eddie Van Halen. 5) He wrote over 400 songs 28 with Loudness, 11 solo albums plus serval more odds n ends. 6) They are still touring.

[@rickrobb6546]

Three Dog Night, Little River Band, Badfinger,

[@markwilburn4962]

Kansas, Iron Maiden, ELP, Styx.....forgot about King Crimson until Bill brought them up....one of those that i figured was already in....shows how much I have paid attention to the HOF

[@markhuntington9149]

Some of my all-time favorites probably won't make it because of sales but I think influence wise, in hard rock and metal, they should be in - Rainbow, UFO and the great Thin Lizzy

[@kevinnelson3525]

Listening to you guys about the criteria the Hall likes is interesting considering how many artists that have had multiple platinum and gold albums that are not in compared to some that are in that can't touch them , sad to say. Especially with country and Rap gets in before the deserving artists.

[@mgourley1234]

Give Rory some love.

[@lgbass]

BOC, Ted Nugent, Kansas, J. Geils Band, Iron Maiden

[@rodcrispo5859]

Good to see Martin back! Even if I disagree with him At times 😊

[@rodcrispo5859]

Yea I agree about Carpenters

[@zerodok]

Kansas, NY Dolls, Scorpions, Billy Idol, Megadeth, Ted Nugent, King Crimson, Captain Beefheart, Bad Company, Spirit, Mott the Hoople, Sweet, Grand Funk.

[@Fastnbulbous1969]

Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Ronnie James Dio, Scorpions, Slayer, Bad Brains, Dead Kennedys, MC5, New York Dolls, King Crimson, Free, Thin Lizzy, UFO, Love, Pretty Things. Just for starters! I of course agree with self-identifyin' with RnR, and Dick Dale, Rory Gallagher, Mott the Hoople, Hüsker Dü, Jethro Tull, Pixies, Replacements, Badfinger, Runaways, For sure, if the HoF wasn't littered with so many non-rock artists, we could feasibly have seen the above inducted by now, and even consider other more underground picks like The Sensational Alex Harvey Band, Be Bop Deluxe, Sparks, Cockney Rebel and a hundred others.

[@westsidecater]

The scale of these picks is nuts. There needs to be a "Not In The Rocknroll Hall of Fame" Hall of Fame!

[@soundsandvisionsHQ]

Meat Loaf/Jim Steinman, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Kansas, Styx

[@Rockstardust69]

Martin no Thin Lizzy I am surprised they should so be in there no question.

[@woutwout8398]

Maiden, The Smiths, Pumpkins, Duran Duran, Priest

[@Brother_MarkG]

GFR, Paul Rodgers, Motorhead, Hawkwind, Ted Nugent

[@bonesjackson81]

Kansas, Bad Co, ELP, UFO, Lizzy, Scorpions and Steve Winwood solo are beyond glaring omissions. But im also on why the hell is STP and Faith No More not in? When do Deftones, Chevelle or Tool get acknowledged? While they add 90s rap, 90s/00s rock is basically ignored.

[@Quolion668]

Status Quo but unfortunately they are unknown in the US but rockin‘ all over the World for nearly 60 years and are still popular in Europe and the UK

[@daanthing6002]

I really don't care but just watch you guys talk

[@chriswoosley1697]

no mention of UFO,..REO.,Thin Lizzy..So many Southern rock bands,.Blackfoot,Outlaws...and the incredibly underrated Golden Earring,Trapeze or Whitesnake,Kansas and for 60 years Scorpions

[@CultoalViniloyalCompacto-bx5mr]

Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr., Husker Du, Replacements, Butthole Surfers, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Bjork, Beck, Tori Amos, Swans, Weezer, Ween, Placebo, Fugazi, Dead Kennedys, X, Damned, Jam, PIL, Birthday Party/Nick Cave, Gang of Four, Bauhaus, Siouxie and the Baneshees, Smiths, Pixies, Bad Religion, Throbbing Gristle, Smashing Pumpkins, Suede, Melvins, Sleater Kinney, Caifanes/Jaguares, Café Tacuba, Boris, Primus, Faith no More, Rollins Band/Black Flag, Sepultura, Slayer, Helmet, Suicidal Tendencies, PJ Harvey, Oiongo Boingo, Blur, Hawkwind/Motorhead, Gary Numan, Portishead, Tricky, Massive Attack, Aphex Twin, Chemical Brothers, Television

[@rickrobb6546]

Kansas, Boston, Styx, Supertramp, Sweet, Slade, Spirit, Steppenwolf, 38 Special, The Outlaws, Molly Hatchet, Foghat, Savoy Brown, Free, Bad Company, April wine, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Bryan Adams, Little Feat, Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Atlanta Rhythm Section, Krokus, Ten Years After, Thin Lizzy, Alan Parsons Project, Ronnie James Dio, Blackfoot, George Thorogood, Humble Pie, The Guess Who, Tommy James and the Shondells, The Grass Roots, Joe Cocker, Joe Walsh, Billy Squier, Loverboy, Billy Idol, Rare Earth, Saxon, UFO, Uriah Heep, Robin Trower, Procol Harum, The Fixx, Wishbone Ash, Robert Palmer, Emerson ,Lake and Palmer, Jethro Tull, Whitesnake, Ratt, Twisted Sister, Motley Crue, Great White, Nazareth, Golden Earring, Maghony Rush, Pat Travers, Reo Speedwagon, Huey Lewis and the News, Toto, J. Geils Band, Eddie Money, Survivor, Night Ranger, Ted Nugent, The Amboy Dukes, Dokken, Wet Willie, Pure Prairie League, Mountain, Coney Hatch, Charlie Daniels Band, The Babys, Iron Maiden, The Scorpions, Sammy Hagar, The Bangles, Cyndi Lauper, Bad English, Damn Yankees, Phil Collins, King Crimson, Blue Oyster Cult, The Cult, Canned Heat, Joe Jackson, Mott the Hoople, Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Sting, Robert Plant,

[@rickrobb6546]

Triumph, Grand Funk Railroad,

[@billschuster6680]

I don't know if they all are hall of fame material, but I'd definitely listen to that playlist. 👍

[@TimCarter]

We need prog metal in the hall. I think Queensryche would be a good band to start with.

[@JosephSterle]

Heck, there are probably 50 artists in there now that SHOULDN’T be in there.

[@pauldavis4287]

Bryan Adams. Huey Lewis. Eddie Money.

[@Rockstardust69]

How can they choose Dolly Parton ahead of Bryan Adam's!

[@Chaz4543]

@@Rockstardust69 Because she has a vagina.

[@martymartin2894]

That's mind boggling I thought Brian Adams would surely be in it.

[@thirdrailelectrocution]

Blue Oyster Cult, The Tubes, Iron Maiden, Kansas, no way on The Pixies.

[@paulh6673]

Motorhead MC5 Thin Lizzy The Replacements Bad Brains Townes Van Zandt Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds

[@billymac72]

I would also add Judas Priest, which no one is mentioning. That’s probably because they are in under some goofy category called “musical excellence.” In other words, no, they’re not a full fledged member and I don’t understand why they were given less than that.

[@billschuster6680]

Good point.

[@Ron-wf5yw]

Grant absolutely spot on with Warren Zevon as a pick.

[@JohannesYtterstrom]

Kansas Blue Öyster Cult Jethro Tull

[@elfman5176]

Blue Oyster Cult and other omissions Pushed aside for country and other genres

[@Drumdude74]

Maiden, Motley Crue, Whitesnake, Ronnie James Dio, Bryan Adams, Jeff Healey. etc. etc.

[@user-zx8de8op9l]

Many great choices, Siver Apples, Vander Graaf Generator, Neu!, The Damned, The Jam, Capt. Beefheart and many more.

[@painless465]

If Rory Gallagher , then Johnny Winter. If Dr Hook, then Dr John!

[@askoholli9306]

Dr. John is in. 👍

[@pablocruise9514]

Agree with most. Here's some of mine - some are definitely just influencers - thanks for all the reminders: Boston Nazareth UFO Dio Rainbow Kansas Supertramp Jethro Tull King Crimson Styx Blue Oyster Cult REO Speedwagon Iron Maiden Toto Three Dog Night Grand Funk Railroad Scorpions BTO Bad Company Ted Nugent Iron Maiden Thin Lizzy The Guess Who Triumph Megadeth Robin Trower ELP Meat Loaf Motorhead Slayer Anthrax The Runaways

[@thecontrarians2438]

Perfect! build a hall and I will come!!

[@SteveBello]

Living Colour. Period.

[@Mark-bi5dk]

Robin Trower

[@timholzer4081]

Robin Trower is a bad ass guitarist. I own a bunch of his solo blues based albums. He is a guitar icon.

[@russellgentile4719]

So Bill Shuster says he could not make a case for Blue Oyster Cult yet named more obscure bands with less sold records, big hits, etc.,? BOC is named as an influential band to many large bands today. BOC has what could be argued a top 50 all-time rock song in (Don't Fear) The Reaper. I believe they sold over 24 million records worldwide. I'm confused.

[@Slowwavesix]

The two artists who influenced more bands yet were never quite superstars themselves. UFO and Leon Russell

[@genephillips856]

Steppenwolf, thin lizzy, nazareth

[@davehodson6288]

/Blue oyster cult/joe satriani/queensryche/ufo

[@digmacdiggydoo]

Sweet, The Monkees, Badfinger and UFO (Schenker years)

[@BenDowdy]

King's X, Doro Pesch, Husker Du, the Roches.

[@Matias-music-71]

Iron Maiden , Thin Lizzy , Jane's Addiction ,

[@rickrobb6546]

America, Dan Fogelberg, Marshall Tucker Band

[@billymac72]

I always thought Smells Like Teen Spirt was a bit of a rip off of More Than a Feeling. Someone also told me Nirvana was heavily influenced by a band called the Wipers, who do somewhat sound like them. Anything to this? I liked Nirvana back when they were around, but am not a scholar on their influences. I’ve heard Cobain was a big Sabbath fan too, which makes sense to me.

[@billschuster6680]

I've heard the More Than a Feeling comparison. Could be. Kurt himself flat out admitted ripping off the Pixies sound, so that's a definite.

[@wingguy97]

Joe Cocker, Bryan Adams, Styx

[@ericrobertson2024]

2 very different acts who definitely had success over fairly long spans = Weird Al lol and Tool...

[@puddleglumsmusiccollection9151]

Kansas, rory gallagher, styx

[@leepassmore7032]

Rory Gallagher merits it on sheer talent alone, but he didn't sell enough records

[@irishspagetti6565]

Is there any extreme metal bands in the Rock hall

[@dominict9418]

I agree with all of the people below.

[@aleksandarfrick2656]

Dirty work have 1. One Hit to the Body 2.Harlem Shuffle 3. Too Rude 4. Winning Ugly 5. Dirty Work 6. Sleep Tonight

[@thomaswery3087]

How did Joan Jett,Roxy Music etc etc get in.How many hits did they have

[@ericrobertson2024]

I think Jett had 13 hits,mostly written by others.Roxy were more of a UK act ,idk why they are in.

[@magnuswettermark8293]

​@@ericrobertson2024Becouse they are from USA or UK. Even crap from these 2 countries get in for some strange reason.

[@ericrobertson2024]

@@magnuswettermark8293 Yes .. I'm surprised by Roxy Music being in, didn't know that..Jett mostly did covers and no long-term success so of course lol

[@anachronistofer]

Agree with all except Peter Jones' suggestions of The Carpenters and Tom Jones. Great musicians, but not Rock. Carpenters covered a few early Rock tunes, but they were a Pop band. Tom Jones is also Pop although of a different stripe. I can't agree on The Monkees. Although Rock, too derivative of the Beatles, too manufactured and contrived. Then again, I don't understand a lot of bands that are in the RNRHOF, the criteria used. Some real head scratchers in there. It can't just be popularity, and there has to be a direct influence or distinction---plus the music played has to be Rock 'N' Roll. I think we know it when we hear it. Finally, Dick Dale, King Crimson, Blue Oyster Cult, Styx, Nazareth, Jethro Tull, Scorpions, Steppenwolf, Boston, Bad Company, Kansas, Supertramp, ELP, Hawkwind, Thin Lizzy, and Iron Maiden should absolutely be in the RNRHOF. I'm sure I'm missing quite a few. How can The Band not be in? That's also nuts. One of the greatest bands of the 70s. Music From Big Pink, Last Waltz... Robbie Robertson, Levon Helm. Every member of the five except one could sing. Hello?

[@czarevich]

Excellent choice w The Band.

[@Hattrickplus]

Scorpions before Iron Maiden

[@martymartin2894]

Maiden my favourite band but I'd agree with u.

[@truckerkevthepaidtourist]

Shit you're going to need a 3-hour show for that goddamn one and that still won't cover it 😱😂😂😂😉😉

[@rodcrispo5859]

Yea Dick Dale is great!!

[@ericrobertson2024]

Don Mattingly was THE best baseball player from 1985-88 and among the best several years prior and after and he's not in the MLB HOF so if that applies to the Rock Hall atleast they have an excuse for not including bands that were only successful for a brief period.

[@ericrobertson2024]

Carpenters not being in defies their usual criteria,not ours.

[@pauldavis4287]

Don Henley, as a solo artist.

[@stevefletcher6163]

One not mentioned, Uriah Heep.

[@timholzer4081]

I agree, Warren Zevon deserves it, and has since his first year of eligibility. As does Boston, Styx, Bad Co,. The HOF is a joke anymore.

[@scottmcgregor4829]

Is Sandy Nelson in the Rock and roll Hall of Fame??? I believe King Crimson and Kansas should be in the Hall of Fame.

[@rickorta4051]

The monkees need to be considered for the hall.

[@switchintoglide1]

Midnight Oil

[@kylemacneil3477]

Come on Grant...Huey Lewis and the News

[@aleksandarfrick2656]

Bob Mould

[@KeithShepherd-c2i]

SUPERTRAMP

[@Grandizer8989]

There are too many Joe Namath’s in the RHOF. Bands or artists that found lightning in a bottle for a short amount of time or were known for one thing i.e., album

[@elbib2446]

music biz,corporate backslapping event,you will never see the mc5 or sex pistols there,more r and r to knock them back.rrhof is the most non r and r thing out there,more cred not being included,a sign that you have become old and safe

[@timholzer4081]

I say screw the RRHOF. They aren't even relevant anymore.

[@inmyhouse11]

Next show topic Who Shouldnt Be In RRHOF But Is. The show can be a marathon

[@Chaz4543]

I think in terms of "hair metal" Motley Crue is the only one thats not in that can get in. Def Leppard and Bon Jovi are in and so are Guns n Roses (debatable if they are hair metal but they are adjacent) so I think thats it. Bands like Ratt, Poison, Whitesnake, arent getting in. Lots of hits and album sales and popularity but not enough critical acclaim. Hair metal didnt have much of a influence on anything that was popular since the 80s ended.

[@arnaudb.7669]

THIN LIZZY

[@billymac72]

I’ve been to the Hall and enjoyed it very much. I don’t have a problem with it, per se, but they do have a history of snobbery. I’m not going to list all the band that others have, but just consider….who do you remember actual rock fans listening to back in the day? A lot of these bands that aren’t in, that’s who. It wasn’t until fairly recently bands like Journey, Rush, Deep Purple and KISS have gotten in. Foreigner just got in this year. Way, way over do on all these.

[@aleksandarfrick2656]

Thin Lizzy

[@thrashdestruction666]

Did I miss something… did none of them mention Thin Lizzy ???!!!

[@lespaul1755]

No matter who says it it's only a subjective opinion

[@floydshambles]

rickie lee jones and j. geils band

[@tomy8339]

The Carpenters? Oh good grief. You might as well put Barry Manilow or Liberace.

[@Chaz4543]

Its clearly the Popular Music Hall of Fame and not the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame based on who they induct so they could put in all 3 of those.

[@attichatchsound-bobkowal5328]

The premise of this kind of discussion is false. It implies artists have to show THEIR worth to this WORTHLESS organization. It should be seen as a demeaning endeavor . RRHOF should be in no position to "snub". Everyone should snub them.

[@russellgentile4719]

Amen.

[@jonlukanuski1174]

They need to change the name to the Music Hall of Fame and remove the Rock since that is what has happened.

[@frankies9465]

Bad co , kansas, foghat, BTO, maiden , scorpions , styx. Disagree abt carpenters and tom jones geting into the ROCK hall. And, sorry to go off topic, but no hall for pete rose. U bet baseball. No hall

[@Greelee38]

3 Dog Night.. 21 consecutive top 40 hits, over 50 million albums sold.

[@johnnorman7180]

Foreigner

[@billschuster6680]

They are in this year.

[@Rockstardust69]

Davy Jones has been quoted that the beatles were not far removed from the set up of the Monkees

[@christianhaynes1954]

Too many bands not in. And too many in that shouldn't be . Rrhof is a sham .....

[@Grandizer8989]

Tori Amos > Sheryl Crow by a lot

[@pal4597]

Huey Lewis

[@martymartin2894]

Tom Jones isn't rock is he, Brian Adams definitely should be in though, and thin Lizzy, maiden, scorpion's. Whitesake.