The Control Group (Game 0) | IDV

Hello! I made this fun, silly lil video to start a discussion about Game 0 lore (lowkey my game 0 fanfic)...
I hope it's at least entertaining and I anticipate seeing other perspectives- especially if I missed something or there are other interpretations of the texts!
Personally I DON'T think the Closet Diary is canon, but I wanted to give that perspective and had fun with that version~
EDIT:
Emil's Backstory: Per deduction 3. it is likely that Emil was sold to another family/nobles who racketeered the dogfighting, not Emil's biological father. (cr. @Salvatoree25)
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:14 - Novelist (Orpheus) Backstory
3:32 - Psychologist (Ada) Backstory
6:08 - Patient (Emil) Backstory
7:47 - Mind's Eye (Helena) Backstory
9:39 - Sculptor (Galatea) Backstory
10:46 - Game 0 (The Facts)
15:46 - The Closet Diary?
18:15 - Speculation 1 (w Closet Diary)
22:15 - Speculation 2 (w/o Closet Diary)
24:41 - Ending
Attributions:
IDV Wiki
id5.fandom.com...
ROBLOX Animations:
www.roblox.com...
Intro/Outro Music:
Red Velvet - Umpah Umpah [Instrumental Ver.]
• Red Velvet(레드벨벳) - 'Um...
Feel free to add me and we can play together!
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Also, follow my X for quick info about releases in the game and my adventures in the manor!
@M1NDSGUY
Identity V 第五人格 IDV

[@Rivər]

Just to add a little something to Adamil, they met before the asylum as teenagers back when Emil was being forced to act as a homeless person for money and Ada gave him food after he father refused to help, and they fell in love shortly after realising this in the asylum and gave each other rings. Ada did try to give Emil a normal life at some point after running away from the asylum. Ada gave up her job to focus on Emil. She'd buy him treats to try, pick flowers with him behind the house and got him to talk to the local children to practice speaking and socialising. I'm gonna ask fellow lore enthusiasts for their thoughts on this video. I rly enjoyed it!

[@Rivər]

Oh god i'm pinned-

[@RomeoMontagueidv]

OMG WHERE DID U READ THIS WHAT ELSE DO U KNOW

[@Rivər]

@@RomeoMontagueidv The wiki, they provide sources there! What else do you wanna know?

[@Rivər]

@@RomeoMontagueidv Ooo here's a fun fact: So you know how Charles Mesmer is Ada's dad? He has a second daughter called Betsy and she's married to the Clerk's brother. So Ada and the Clerk are sisters in law. The Clerk and Ada are both aunts to the same baby boy as well because Betsy and the clerk's brother had a son.

[@ChocolatePuppeteer]

using the roblox idv roleplay game as a visual aid was rlly helpful and gives the video a unique vibe

[@MINDSGUY]

@@ChocolatePuppeteer lol thank you I’ll have to bring it back

[@jennadrawsandgames2468]

I think this just proves that Helena was being experimented on to become the punisher, but it failed due to her good nature. She snapped, but not in the way that the game host wanted her to snap. We’ll probably get a hunter form of Helena, but it being based off of characters who did pass away (Mary(Bloody Queen) and Grace(Naiad) for example).

[@MINDSGUY]

@@jennadrawsandgames2468 Absolutely! A tragic hunter form~

[@jennadrawsandgames2468]

I’m also going to add this here, but I think due to how the game seems to be described to be, The Sculptor won’t be getting a survivor form. She did everything on her own account and not under any of the tests. You can basically say the punisher role got swapped onto the Sculptor after Helena’s passing. But who knows. They could still give her a survivor role.

[@Salvatoree25]

Actually Emil was sold from by his father because they couldn’t afford to have him so some guy that owned a dog fighting pit and made him act homeless was actually his guardian not his father

[@MINDSGUY]

@@Salvatoree25 You’re right it was his “New Home” that he was abused in.

[@sirunamed]

orpheus doing the shy rblx emote threw me off guard lmao, good analysis as always tho!

[@Owlhausenthusiast]

Oh my god this video is so well made?!????Thanks for making it ive been looking for some more idv lore youtubers

[@madessd]

For once KZbin algorithm is doing its thing, the game 0 lore video is much appreciated! Excellent one at that.

[@hestia6891]

oh god you're really underrated, I'm happy if this becomes a series it could become quite big! i wouldn't mind a game 1 video (just for the sake of going in order tbh)

[@MINDSGUY]

@@hestia6891 Thank you I’ll definitely try my best with it 🙏

[@chihiro2151]

I love backstory on characters and the game but im sooo lazy and wont read any of their character days or backstory thanks for the video😭🙏 also im happy your videos have been popping recently ❤

[@Folkeregor]

This is my first vid from you and im genuinely impressed by the quality of your work. You earned yourself a sub my man!

[@hheathazed]

O HMYGOD A LORE VIDEO!!!! im suprised nobody has done this yet but ahhh this is so good !! its so helpful

[@Lemon_MintCake]

I love this video!! Im not one to usually trust youtube videos when it comes to lore explanation because they are often full of misinformation or outdated information but your vid is very nicely written and goes into good detail! One thing i would add is the detail of the fact that Galatea during the manor group is still not in her wheelchair, you did mention that Galatea later on jumped off the balcony resulting in it but you didn't specifically state that she got the wheelchair later on which is just a detail i would personally add but it doesn't take away much from the video. I would love to see you cover the Group 6 manor games especially 6B, and if you would ever consider making a video on 6B i would love to get in contact with you and maybe help you with understanding the story if you're not deeply informated on it as someone who is a huge Demi nerd i think i could be of help :) thanks for making this once again!!

[@MINDSGUY]

@@Lemon_MintCake Valid emphasis and that sounds like a plan 🤝

[@MeltedSnowySummer]

INCREDIBLE VIDEO!! I would love to know more about Naib, Murro and William's games too! It seems that Naib has killed a lot and survived, but it is unclear if he escaped

[@39.lengockhanhthu6]

I kind of believe that due to drugs helena become hunter but she don't attack anyone because her mind still fight between good and evil, and she likely one of the few sur get confirm that she win the game. I would be so sad if my cute girl don't escape in game 0

[@TfBlue]

I think the man in the cloak was patient I’m pretty sure that the event of sculptor seeing the man in the cloak was before patient got shot than after the news they met up in the dining room Sculptor sees man in the cloak>Patient dies>News of Patients Death

[@lilycross9648]

Thank you so much for the video!!! It’s so well done and the visuals are greatly appreciated for people who have a hard time understanding/listening while learning :33 VERY NICE AND ACCURATE TO WHAT I RESEARCHED FOR MYSELF!! More please!!!

[@ayumikamukura1041]

thank you for covering the game 0 this very nice to see someone covering idv's lore it becomes less confusing

[@MINDSGUY]

@@ayumikamukura1041 thank you for the kind words, I agree the lore can be quite confusing!

[@ayumikamukura1041]

Yes haha the lore is very retconed , and you're welcome I really liked your videos :) hope to see more of your uploads, take care.

[@nadap5030]

amazing video, I’d love to see you do one on game 8 as well :-) 2:30 just wanted to add, Orpheus grew up at the manor as the son of forest rangers that worked for the derosses, as confirmed by burke’s deductions

[@MINDSGUY]

Ah good note, thank you!

[@keithismychikibeibi6062]

i just found your channel and I love how invested in the lore you are! I would be so happy if you did more videos about characters backstories because this one was really helpful

[@MINDSGUY]

@@keithismychikibeibi6062 Thank you 🙏 I definitely will!

[@OniMarch]

Your videos are really well made! I’d love to see you cover the other manor games

[@kcheinze8694]

Could you do an analysis on Game 6? The one I’ve always thought of as a ‘turf war’ between deities as Feaster’s recent letter mentions every participant being a ‘vessel for monsters’. I would like to see how you could tie in all of the known characters + hunters (Priestess, Professor, Senator, Feaster, Dream Witch, Naiad, The Shadow) connected to Lakeside Village and their involvement in the Manor’s most dangerous game to date.

[@kcheinze8694]

Also this is what I’ve speculated so far but 6-1-1: Ivy Lawson (Soul Scientist, Yithian’s Vessel) 6-1-2: ??? 6-1-3: Fiona Gilman (Priestess, Yog-Sothoth’s Vessel) 6-1-4: Luchino Diruse (Professor, Yidhra’s Vessel) 6-0-5: Arthur Byers (Senator, Hastur’s Vessel) 6-1-6: ??? Likely Robert (Naiad’s Vessel)

[@tropheesy]

i would love to see more videos covering lore like this! you're very concise and the visuals from the roblox game helped and was making the story easy to follow!

[@Rickune]

Ahhh! Nice video MindsGuy!!! 🤩

[@MINDSGUY]

@@Rickune I could say the same for literally all of yours ty Ricky 💕

[@Rickune]

@@MINDSGUY We both make great videos! 😌✨

[@xxshadowstripexx]

OH MY GODD THIS VIDEO WAS SOOO GOODDD I LOVED IT SM GAME 0 MAKES SM MORE SENSE NOW I LOVE UR THEORIES PLZ MAKE MORE VIDEOS ABT ANYTHING RELATED TO IDV LORE

[@ventcyli1881]

Your channel is really nice, good thing KZbin recommended your vid to me ☺️

[@MINDSGUY]

Awww thank you 🙏

[@SunnyMeowMeowV]

BANGER VIDEO!! It took me awhile to realize that I was looking at roblox

[@nobodyasked12345]

OH MY GOD THANK YOY SO MUCH I FUCKING LOVE GAME 0 IM SO HAPPY SOMEONE FINALLY MADE A VIDEO ON IT HOOOLYYY SHITTTTT HOLY SHIT

[@strry_night]

Really nice video man! You made this really easily digestible/easy to understand.

[@CharlesHoltbestcharacter]

Oh my god i finally found lore videos for idv omg

[@Winter_Bun]

Js a questiony statement (maybe I didn’t pay attention to the video). The incident where Galatea jumped off a balcony (?) should happen b4 going to the manor as Helena met her physically impaired. So im pretty sure she went to the asylum b4 the manor ( since an asylum is also for mental ppl, i think her father sent her there because she was conversing with statues and jumped off for one). So her nurse should be her first victim and Galatea prob escaped the asylum. So it’s confusing whether she obtained inspiration at the manor or not since making ppl into statues are already planed . Anyways why did our Queen Helena not smack Galatea with her cane b4 getting turned into a statue 😭 #antiquarianno2. If she doesn’t get her hunter form our Queens death will not be justified. Tho the devs seem to be giving her more attention now it seems as tho she might get a hunter form when the side story comes out. Anyways tyssmmm for this video, i rlly love some Helena lore ❤️❤️❤️✨✨✨.

[@MINDSGUY]

@@Winter_Bun It’s possible she went to the manor before the incident (she’d have more capacity to “push” Helena aside in this state too), and Helena regards only her short stature explicitly (if we are to assume she’s “the child”). (And I would like to think that’s her in the Background video hiding amongst statues too) But it’s always possible the alternative. [Sidenote: I question the accessibility of the manor too I wonder how they’ll explore that?] Also Helena Hunter plz NetEase

[@Sillybane]

Damn so the queen of idv (Helena) didn’t live 😭

[@CharlesHoltbestcharacter]

Could you possibly cover the bane and burke game? With merc forward wildling mage and explorer?

[@Wolf-sh9ze]

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[@veryakaa]

i still think that ada died after emil bc its makes more drama. its good for story bc more emotions and actions. if she died first, and emil was angry bc of it, its boring.... anyway, ty for video, i really love game 0, it was useful for me!!!! some good points inspair me to make new explanation for every character in this team

[@MINDSGUY]

@@veryakaa I agree that Emil likely dies before Ada and launches her into despair for the game 100%. Game 2 is a close favorite especially because I love Clerk! I hope we see Edmund Reed (Policeman) added with it~ And yes Game 3s are WILD haha, they have some of my fave characters doing the wildest things 😭 Thanks for the comment 👍

[@veryakaa]

@@MINDSGUY (same with clerk!!!!)

[@HeroSavesTheDay]

Do the circus story next pls

[@mallgothgf]

can you do a video on antonio/violinists manor game??? need more antonio lore :(((

[@danchu67]

I guess this really was an Identity V

[@effynoodle6181]

Please can you cover enchantress, perfurmer, painter and cowboy manor game?

[@gothdianxia]

post more game lore i beg u

[@NotCooLouis]

W video

[@ChickenNoodleFry]

i love this but are the 3d parts roblox 😭😭

[@MINDSGUY]

Well…yes! 🤭

[@ChickenNoodleFry]

@@MINDSGUY 10/10

[@jamela3136]

i think i saw u in hide and seek today

[@MINDSGUY]

Definitely, I play it all too often

[@theunknown1760]

Violetta survivor switch please🙏

[@sunnhyi]

I'm wondering if we are the same person.. Kpop ggs, Idv players, Helena stan?? HELLO?

[@MINDSGUY]

Twin where have you been

[@YugiMuto_BUTT]

Really love this! I would love to see your take on game 1