The Controversial Production of Joker (2019)

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Frame Voyager

Frame Voyager

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@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Though Hurricane Helene messed up some of our plans, we got the first video off! 3 more to go! See the schedule below. 1. The Production of Joker (2019) 2. Director Todd Phillips doc 3. The Production of Joker: Folie a Deux 4. Every IMAX film released in 1.43:1 (including Joker)
@squabbbb
@squabbbb Ай бұрын
*won
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 Ай бұрын
Are you based in NC?
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
@@LuisSierra42 SC!
@jacksonallen5667
@jacksonallen5667 Ай бұрын
That thumbnail is hilarious. You clearly took the poster where it’s just half of his face and then mirrored it and duplicated so now Joaquin has two Adam’s apples.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
😉 Was trying something different since everyone has this face on all of the thumbnails anyways haha. It seems like it's working too
@rhetiq9989
@rhetiq9989 Ай бұрын
Man I gotta say, your sponsor ads are some of the few I rarely ever skip. So much effort to make them flow organically with the video’s themes and topics. Nice work.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 Appreciate it! Trying to get better about doing the ads that way! Can't fit them all in like that but I love it when there is just a perfect natural progression for them.
@willberto6969
@willberto6969 Ай бұрын
Shame they never made a sequel
@notnikola
@notnikola 28 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@josephgibbs723
@josephgibbs723 Ай бұрын
Symmetrical joker in the thumbnail is cursed.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
@@josephgibbs723 you'll see it when you close your eyes tonight
@kurtnelle
@kurtnelle Ай бұрын
I wish people got paid properly for this level research and work into these documentaries. Well done FrameVoyager.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@xXDexter3000Xx
@xXDexter3000Xx Ай бұрын
what do u think the sponsorship is for lmfao
@kurtnelle
@kurtnelle Ай бұрын
@@xXDexter3000Xx You mean advertisers. I'm talking about patrons.
@xXDexter3000Xx
@xXDexter3000Xx Ай бұрын
@@kurtnelle youtube video essayists do not deserve to have people pay them directly for elective content
@norm-bb3bb
@norm-bb3bb Ай бұрын
Even the posters are a work of art
@SeaSphynx
@SeaSphynx Ай бұрын
Therapist: Symmetrical joker isn’t real. He can’t hurt you Thumbnail: 👁️ 👁️ 👃 👄
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
You'll see him when you close your eyes tonight 👀
@imaginekudryavka9485
@imaginekudryavka9485 Ай бұрын
How does this have so little views!? Fantastic video, as always. Your production value is mad, for a relatively small channel. I learned a lot and actually appreciate the film more now. I was never among the people raving about it, though I did definitely like it.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Appreciate it! Yeah, I seem to be slowly gaining some traction with the content I'm putting out. I feel like next year will be better because there just aren't a lot of popular films to cover right now!
@imaginekudryavka9485
@imaginekudryavka9485 Ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager You'll definitely get there. With some newer channels, I subscribe more for the potential I can see in them, even if they're rough around the edges. Your videos are already top notch, well researched and edited. So at this point it's a matter of time. As long as you keep uploading regularly, a video is bound to hit the algorithm just right, and when people like what they see, they'll go through the back log. I like that you're making very varied videos on a current topic (isn't the next one just about the director?). If it was all just Joker Joker Joker, like the movie itself, 5 videos would feel like too much and might turn people off who aren't interested in it particularly. Doing too much of the same thing can have a large effect on grow - if a lot of people are brought in at once but most don't stick around because they think it's a single topic channel, it's gonna look worse for the algorithm than not getting all those viewers in the first place. That's how I've understood it. But I trust your judgement and ability! Best of luck.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Oh totally agree. This is actually a new strategy of releasing multiple videos together. That seems to get a lot more people coming in to binge-watch them. I just did it with the entire Alien series and almost hit 100k+ views on all of those videos. Next up is 10 year anniversary videos and Gladiator
@CNC-Time-Lapse
@CNC-Time-Lapse Ай бұрын
Nice squarespace ad. Man, your production quality is fantastic. Really nice elements! The whole setup from start to finish on this video was top notch! Also, will you be releasing that interview and/or covering the Sensor Size Myth topic in the future? I would love to learn more about this.
@FrankGlencairn
@FrankGlencairn Ай бұрын
I second that.
@TheJ_G
@TheJ_G Ай бұрын
It’s the first ad I didnt immediately scrub through in a very long time haha
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Appreciate it! Trying to come up with more fun ways to do this with sponsorships so it feels more like it's actually part of the video. haha I'll have to take a look at the sensor size Myth topic. It's a difficult one to cover
@kapostatuz1677
@kapostatuz1677 Ай бұрын
I subscribed as soon as I noticed that
@michaeltorumedia
@michaeltorumedia Ай бұрын
Every time I see a Frame Voyager video posted I get so excited! The quality of content you create is top tier and IMO some of the best on KZbin. Thank you for navigating hurricanes to get us the Joker series 🙌🙌🙌
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 Appreciate that!
@HectorElGeek12
@HectorElGeek12 Ай бұрын
Remembering the good times 😭
@froggfriend2602
@froggfriend2602 Ай бұрын
3d-artist here, really like you ad some room for the vfx in you're videos. Keep it up, I'm watching every upload!😊
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
No problem! I've actually got a writer I work with that's really good at digging into a lot of the vfx aspect of the films. Its fun to cover!
@LittleRayofSunshine69750
@LittleRayofSunshine69750 Ай бұрын
I have a very low expectations for the sequel. The original is a masterpiece and in a strange way made me feel less alone, not that I would kill but the loneliness and pain he feels. They said at the time they wouldn’t make a sequel. I feel this has been made purely for profit which loses everything the original stood for.
@byDerick
@byDerick Ай бұрын
10 years later I still get chills from this..
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
It's such a sobering film
@byDerick
@byDerick Ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyageryes But I mean this video, its a certified classic
@briangreene7085
@briangreene7085 Ай бұрын
@@byDerick are you from the future?
@erinburke9711
@erinburke9711 Ай бұрын
10 years already?!? It feels like merely hours ago.
@YodaOnABender
@YodaOnABender Ай бұрын
@@byDericktf you mean “10 years later”?
@LeonardoKlotz
@LeonardoKlotz Ай бұрын
I knew a movie like this couldn't be done twice
@mrshaheedmalik
@mrshaheedmalik Ай бұрын
Release the Sensor Cut!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
😅
@hessu275
@hessu275 Ай бұрын
Nicely done, I'm looking foward to the other videos
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@Professorkenneth
@Professorkenneth Ай бұрын
Great video mate, I appreciate it👍🏻 I didn't know most of this, very cool things about this film. Joker 2 is great,but a lot of people dislike it. I loved it. Be cool mate cheers👊🏻
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
I just saw it last night! While I don't think it was a necessary film, I liked it! We are covering that film's production with a video that should come out on Thursday!
@Professorkenneth
@Professorkenneth Ай бұрын
​@@FrameVoyagercool can't wait 👍🏻
@mikewhite8663
@mikewhite8663 Ай бұрын
What makes this movie incredible is as a whole with both movies together is Scarface this is a Scarface storyline as a whole with the sequel that is what makes me love it but there is a lot more to it the first is 10/10 the second is an 8/10 but the 8/10 is better then the 10/10 that is incredible by it self
@NebLleb
@NebLleb Ай бұрын
A modern classic movie that should've stayed standalone. Joker is a movie that uses a popular comic character to warn people that society will beat them down, especially those with mental issues, and that we need to be more aware that stories like Arthur Fleck's play out all too often in the real world because the faults in the western world. And it works, with great performances, a genuine sense of sadness, and a heartwrenching plot that somehow manages to make you feel bad for the man who becomes the Batman's most iconic adversary. Todd Philips showed he could make a great dramatic genre film with Joker, and the possibilities of where his career could've gone were endless... ...Unfortunately, Todd decided to make an unnecessary wackier musical sequel and the first film wound up a victim of the sigma male epidemic of the 2020s. The things that our entertainment becomes known for, amirite?
@wet-read
@wet-read Ай бұрын
Hmm. Joker does feature worthwhile themes, but they aren't done very well. Poor and lazy writing throughout.
@thedudeabides3138
@thedudeabides3138 Ай бұрын
This was a superb essay, and I say that as someone who hasn’t seen the movie. Thank you for taking the time to make and post. Immediate Sub and Like.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel!
@Paper_and_Light
@Paper_and_Light Ай бұрын
Really loved the use of CRT TVs here, matching some of the aesthetics of the film itself. Did you have all those before, or did you buy them specifically for this video? Very impressive setup, very effective. Well done!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I've actually had them for a while haha. I use them a lot for projects and have been trying to find fun new ways to use them in the videos. This one was just too perfect, just like the alien series last month we did as well!
@Paper_and_Light
@Paper_and_Light Ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager I really enjoyed the look of your title text through the CRT, really tied everything together visually. A good investment!
@AustinHibblerComedy
@AustinHibblerComedy Ай бұрын
Excited !!! 🍿
@chrismofer
@chrismofer Ай бұрын
16:23 I'm firmly in the camp of larger sensor = better depth of field effects and can explain it like this. The way to get finer depth of field (and therefor a blurrier bokeh) is to have a bigger difference in the distances to foreground objects and background objects. In other words, you can blow the background out of focus by focusing closer, but that requires you to move closer to your subject. doing that would require either a wider lens or a physically larger sensor. In this situation using the larger sensor wins, all other things being equal.
@norm-bb3bb
@norm-bb3bb Ай бұрын
Amazing movie and performance, I'm going to pretend the sequel was a dream from Arthur if it's trash 😂
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@LittleRayofSunshine69750
@LittleRayofSunshine69750 Ай бұрын
OMG I just said the same thing 😂 as I don’t have high hopes.
@norm-bb3bb
@norm-bb3bb Ай бұрын
@@LittleRayofSunshine69750 I have a tiny hope 😭
@LittleRayofSunshine69750
@LittleRayofSunshine69750 Ай бұрын
@@norm-bb3bb I’m trying but Lady Gaga’s film credits don’t give me high hopes 😂.
@Premium_jack
@Premium_jack Ай бұрын
How we feeling guys 😂
@lolercatz
@lolercatz Ай бұрын
Amazing editing!! Loved this video so much. Would love to see a Wes Anderson video sometime!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Maybe I'll do a Wes Anderson series at some point!
@ThePatDoran
@ThePatDoran Ай бұрын
The writing and production of this video is sick. 👌
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@mrshaheedmalik
@mrshaheedmalik Ай бұрын
That Squarespace Ad is A+++
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Appreciate it! Trying to get better with them when I have time 😅
@edvaira6891
@edvaira6891 Ай бұрын
It was weird listening to director Todd Phillips describing his techniques…not for what he says but for the fact he sounds EXACTLY like actor Liev Schreiber!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Oh interesting, I hadn't noticed that!
@PrettyboyAshtun
@PrettyboyAshtun 29 күн бұрын
i love that original joker movie so much and i really like that aesthetic.
@庀man
@庀man Ай бұрын
I love it. Going to see folie à deux today!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Ignore the reviews and enjoy it!
@billybutcher4995
@billybutcher4995 Ай бұрын
I still don’t understand how the sequel ended up being as bad as it is. It’s really disappointing
@michaelm.sinclair3205
@michaelm.sinclair3205 Ай бұрын
The larger sensor has less cropping. Small sensors, a 21mm lens would be needed to get a 35mm feel... Think of the crop on a 3/4 dlsr.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
The only time this would become an actual factor though would be at the extreme ends of focal length. And usually for cinema cameras, we are talking Super35 or above. But there are still ways to get pretty much the same look on a smaller sensor. The one thing with the larger sensor is that you get more data which. But I mean the Alexa mini has been used in so many great films that you honestly don't notice the difference in it that much. At the end of the day, it really comes down to vision, skill, and all the tools working together for whatever is best for your project.
@deadburiedrisen
@deadburiedrisen Ай бұрын
The opening of the film was filmed in Newark, NJ., not NY. Great video.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Did I say the opening of the film was? I thought I just said that they started filming in NYC. Appreciate it!
@FrankGlencairn
@FrankGlencairn Ай бұрын
Great insight, very well done - looks like you where also able to preserve a really nice grain on YT. May I ask what your process is?
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
For film grain I mostly use Film Converts emulation software. I have that linked in the description if you're interested in it!@
@FrankGlencairn
@FrankGlencairn Ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager Thanks, but I meant how do you manage to preserve it on YT - usually it just got compressed away.
@danielle4529
@danielle4529 Ай бұрын
7:14 is that officer Ted Mosby
@CNC-Time-Lapse
@CNC-Time-Lapse Ай бұрын
LOL Mosby on the case!
@gregoryrogalsky6937
@gregoryrogalsky6937 Ай бұрын
The Nikkor 58 1.2 AI-s Nocturnal is lens designed for a 24-36 mm format, or 35 mm. Not medium format. They also used a Nikkor 45 PC-E 2.8 ED on the bus. You can see the shift effect quite clearly. I love the Cini-photography of this movie. Shame what they did to the second one.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
Honestly love getting to hear cinematographers talk about lenses more than the cameras
@PieroMinayaRojas
@PieroMinayaRojas Ай бұрын
There is no sequel
@asmrtpop2676
@asmrtpop2676 Ай бұрын
what thumbnail are ppl talking about i just see a 3/4 portrait
@timlapointe4067
@timlapointe4067 Ай бұрын
I'm not saying I'm upset, but it would have put a smile on my face if you'd done the talking head portion in joker makeup.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
I could have gotten sued for breaching copyrights
@jucie4024
@jucie4024 Ай бұрын
Haha you changed the thumbnail
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
@@jucie4024 you probably saw the other one I was testing 😅 I usually do A/B testing initially on 2-3 thumbnail designs when we release
@erikschwartz1214
@erikschwartz1214 Ай бұрын
30:05 this is why he made the sequel
@BlackhornLynx
@BlackhornLynx Ай бұрын
🃏
@Mariofanaticanimations
@Mariofanaticanimations Ай бұрын
This crazy production history is very similar to how the controversy surrounding the animators suffered through the terrible working conditions of Sausage Party, another R rated film, which sausage party foodtopia was released the same year as Joker 2
@JefferyCharlesNighswander
@JefferyCharlesNighswander Ай бұрын
JINO. Joker In Name Only. A film for normies.
@Dakr2000
@Dakr2000 Ай бұрын
Joaquin Phoenix Dr Strange would’ve been nuts
@zachhiggins1668
@zachhiggins1668 Ай бұрын
"Shining a spotlight". Never heard of "know your enemy". Privilege lets you shake your fist and clutch your pearls but you don't have to know your enemy, soft baby
@terintiaflavius3349
@terintiaflavius3349 Ай бұрын
Leto's Joker was just fine for the movie it was in. More campy comic movie.
@nickymo
@nickymo Ай бұрын
Jaoquin seems like such a pain in the ass to work with
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
It's honestly hard to tell. I would say maybe counting on him to actually be there for the start of filming maybe? But I think he gets a weird rep from the media who doesn't like him because he constantly plays tricks on them. This makes sense since the media basically wouldn't let his family mourn after the death of his brother.
@TheStarBlack
@TheStarBlack Ай бұрын
Well it must be worth it otherwise the man wouldn't have a career!
@mikewhite8663
@mikewhite8663 Ай бұрын
This sequel is so incredible I want to see a 3rd where the joker from the end of this movie goes on to create and fight the red hood and stick with the canon storyline that Batman never gets to exist in this universe at all robin shows up to fight the joker kills him he gets put in the Lazarus pit comes back as the red hood no mention no site of Batman at all no mention of Batman it’s only joker and robin that is it make another billion
@YodaOnABender
@YodaOnABender Ай бұрын
No
@harveyjane432
@harveyjane432 Ай бұрын
❤🎉😊
@STRANGEANATOMYBAND
@STRANGEANATOMYBAND Ай бұрын
Todd Phillips thinks he’s a genius when he’s a pretty average bro. If he didn’t want to make a super-hero movie he shouldn’t have. Hell, it’s clear he didn’t want to make a Joker movie because Arthur Fleck is not the Joker. Not in any way. And beyond that, Arthur Fleck is not an interesting character. This original character and story that they squandered the Joker IP on is like a child’s finger-painting version of a movie like Taxi Driver. The whole thing is, artistically speaking, an ill conceived waste of time.
@truelies9187
@truelies9187 Ай бұрын
This is why the 2nd film was toned down because higher ups cried the first was too sad and gritty
@danielle4529
@danielle4529 Ай бұрын
first?
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Ай бұрын
You are 👀
@danielle4529
@danielle4529 Ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager I’ve never been first!
@DennisMHenderson
@DennisMHenderson Ай бұрын
🤢
@blindnumber
@blindnumber Ай бұрын
Im 666👍 likes...
@STRANGEANATOMYBAND
@STRANGEANATOMYBAND Ай бұрын
Todd Phillips talks about himself like he’s some kind of a genius. It’s too bad he’s not smart enough to tackle these kinds of topics. If he didn’t want to make a comic book movie, he shouldn’t have. He should own that pretentious stance, but of course he still wants to make money so he weaseled out a way to do that. Hell, it seems like he didn’t want to make a Joker movie, because Arthur Fleck isn’t the Joker. On top of that, Arthur Fleck and his story isn’t even interesting or original. It’s like the dumbest version ever of the tragic-backstory-makes-the-villain-sympathetic cliche. It’s like a child’s finger-painting of Taxi Driver. Artistically speaking, it’s an utter waste of everybody’s talent. Except Phillips, for him it was like being carried on everyone else’s shoulders.
@norm-bb3bb
@norm-bb3bb Ай бұрын
@@STRANGEANATOMYBAND Speak for yourself, I found Arthur's story very interesting. I love the idea of the unreliable narrator.
@eobardthawn6903
@eobardthawn6903 Ай бұрын
It was a great movie. I'm sad you can't see that. 😔
@norm-bb3bb
@norm-bb3bb Ай бұрын
@@eobardthawn6903 Exactly, it was amazing
@petermj1098
@petermj1098 Ай бұрын
@@eobardthawn6903People who have never seen Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy or never read The Killing Joke think it is original.
@artcamp7
@artcamp7 Ай бұрын
Unwatchably bad movie
@filmclips2023
@filmclips2023 Ай бұрын
Why?
@Pot-8-Toes
@Pot-8-Toes Ай бұрын
I don’t feel any desire to see Joker as it doesn’t resemble the character I’ve loved from the comics and animation for decades. I’m still waiting for an accurate depiction in live action.
@norm-bb3bb
@norm-bb3bb Ай бұрын
​@@Pot-8-ToesYou're gonna wait forever 😂 that Joker from Matt Reeves is the worst I've ever seen, his design especially, but if you really want a comic book accurate despiction, Jack Nicholson is the closest thing to a comic book Joker.
@filmclips2023
@filmclips2023 Ай бұрын
@@norm-bb3bb I think we should give him time, maybe something good can come out of it although truth it looks like downgrade combo of Heath Ledger and Jack Nicholson, who knows
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